NZ open to combat drones 'if needed' - Judith Collins | Q+A 2024

[@davidlawton898]

Good to hear the Minister acknowledging the rundown state of our Defence forces. However, I fail to detect any urgency to correct this malaise, apart from improving the attrition rate which is an easy win. The reality is, there is 'near present danger', potentially as soon as 2027 for major conflict in the Pacific, and NZ is utterly unprepared for actual combat. We have 2 upgraded frigates, 4 P8 Poseidons (when we need at least 6 for the size of our zone of influence), a mere 5 Hercules on the way, some helicopters and training aircraft... Where are the proposals for the minimum x3-4 replacement General Purpose frigates (along with Australia's orders, they are starting to decommission their ANZACs), where are the orders for stand-off weapons (either anti-ship / anti-air missile systems or combat jets for A2AD - yes we need combat aircraft, not just drones), where is the resolve to prepare NZ for what IS to come (check out the rapidly deteriorating South China Sea situation). I note, Winston Peters is acutely aware of the situation, why is our Minister of Defence apparently not ? I along with many concerned Kiwis will be closely watching the publication of the Defence Capability Plan (DCP) document. I note the first draft is out now. There better be some serious revisions made if the necessary capabilities are not included to deal with the current decade of great danger, and the years to follow. This all about NZ measuring up to it's allies expectations, to demonstrate resolve - especially to Australia.

[@MissPerpul]

Yeah no shit.

[@fleurstarable]

Jokes NZ was is used as a Proxy gor UK/. US . We need to sit down.

[@pwollerman]

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[@growtocycle6992]

Even if we invest 100% of our GDP, we will never have the manpower or technology (production) to defend ourselves... Better to be neutral

[@flash3047]

If we go to war with China NZ will experience lose 1/3 of our trade. It will cripple NZ. The very trade the war is supposed to protect..does this not strike anyone else a dumb? Austrilia will be taught the same lesson.

[@redpink9773]

You can really see Judith is well educated and to the point. Its kinda a shock after watching the Hipkins interview

[@goprozephyr]

Great answers from Judith. An impressive Defense minister. Loved the ‘ don’t rark them up’

[@PumpkinPie-fw9jr]

Need more money for the military they give their lives for protecting Newzealanders.

[@fleurstarable]

Idiot.. nz is a Proxy of UK uS... they & we are broke. Sit down shut up.

[@tomrobinson8593]

@@keepingittight NZ is not at war with any one, and certainly not with Russia or with the Palestinians to be clear! but is expected to pull our weight as allies of the commonwealth.

[@Dleef100]

Nice and clear interview I must say.

[@huiarama]

The attrition rate in the Defence Force is a product of poor governance at the ministerial level an over balance of quazi corporatisms and overzealous bureaucratic gate keepers that hinder capability and resources and finally, decades of poor military leadership. The best military (career) decision is NOT to make a decision. The argument that the COVID support by military staff (uniformed) was the key reason for the high attrition rate of military people leaving is only a fragment of the reason. The primary reason is linked to the above statement. While, the majority of the NZ Military were spread thin on the ground during lockdown, the over top heavy civil servants (in Defence House) were at home with their families learning to make bread and for some reason could not 'work' from home. It would not take much for these defence civil servants to man a gate at a hotel in a high viz vest with a mask on. They have actual, practical experience of hotels from a plethora of conferences, working groups and so on. But apparently, making bread and family time was far more important than serving the state, in a time the nation needed them. Simply put, there are more civilians in defence than actual soldiers, sailors and airman who create an analysis paralysis or create a cottage industry of social engineering policies with little thought of or understanding the nuanced nature or the role with which the military component of the Defence Force that serves New Zealand society - Death by a 1000 cuts - On resources, infrastructure, capability and uniformed people. The senior military leadership, very high salaried, but on a short term contract - The 'do not rock the boat' but needing to leave a career legacy through symbolism (normally some sort of carving outside a headquarters), successively kicked the can down the road in force design, doctrine, infrastructure, regeneration and the fundamentals of command and leadership in a vein hope the next leader would pick up the can. For the NZ public in general, there is an issue of context - Not understanding the role the military component serves the state in the pursuit of the national interest. Despite popular belief in some quarters, the NZ military are NOT climate change junkets, or social workers in uniform. They are the active / hard power component of the state. A challenge in the complex environment of today. Thus, it would appear for sometime, the contextual understanding has been drowned out by dismissive bourgeois intellectuals with hidden agendas that over focus on the peripheral rather than the core fundaments. You would never see the former party girl turned reporter at Stuff covering such an expose. The point is about finance. There have been successive commentators that have highlighted financial prudence in matter of defence. Often referring to equipment, ships and aircraft as 'big ticketed' items. This is a poor justification that links into the above statement on CONTEXT. Defence acquisition has never broken the bank. There has been successive decades of acquisition and management. There actually has been opportunities to develop local industry and up skill workforce specialisation that has commercial gain. That was common practice but now it is referred to today as resilience. However, there have been those in positions of influence, that have no knowledge of acquisition and operational requirements that leads into piecemeal 'horse trading' and poor decision making. Does anyone remember HMNZS Charles Upham?? - The Debacle of the C130H upgrade? - Even the shambolic midlife upgrade of the ANZAC Frigates??? Even the Boeing 757s were purchased second hand, the multimillion dollar camouflage uniforms that didn't work and fell to pieces when it rained?. The Short Term, half-pie-ka pai band aid solution that costs New Zealand greatly to fix and overhaul. The only one who benefits is the contractor who over promises and under delivers. The Defence GDP has never gone over 2 or 3% - It's peanuts compared to other sectors in government spending. If that percentage was to be redistributed to another government department, it would inevitably be tied up in administration costs and would never reach the end user! In closing, New Zealand Defence needs to be allowed to evolve with the current times and beyond. This may require a return to revisionist thinking - a blue water navy, an air force combat component, a reorientation in the army to conventional (state centric) thinking. But this can only happen with not just an overhaul, a platitude policy that is inherently superficial for political talking points. It will require a dramatic change by carving up the defence civilianised bureaucracy, scaling down the top heavy command structure - back to the core fundamentals that focuses on equipping, training leading, housing, feeding our current and future soldiers, sailors and airman. New Zealand's Defence, is New Zealand's ultimate insurance policy.

[@davidlawton898]

Thank you for your genuine insights, you are needed in our Defence Forces.

[@89hatters]

Rarely read such drivel.😂

[@hunha991]

TLDR

[@huiarama]

@@hunha991 IDC

[@sparrow01007]

All very true

[@klaassen87]

You are a legend Judith.

[@robertjohnston8531]

Oh come on now! We did our bit... 70 years ago. Surely we can keep budging off Australia for defense a bit longer? 🫣

[@KatharineShaw-z8u]

And once upon a time NZ had a strike wing Air Force.

[@robertjohnston8531]

Dumping the biggest force multiplier for an island nation was the dumbest move ever. Especially since we were offered Pakistans canceled order of F16s at a large discount, around that time.

[@KatharineShaw-z8u]

@@robertjohnston8531 Right!

[@mattgordon9179]

Finland has a population of 5.5 Mil with a GDP of 300 Billion They have ordered 70 5th Gen F35 fighter jets and Of course an extensive military for there population. New Zealand has a population of 5 Mil and a GDP of 250 Billion. Why can't we at least have the bare minimum?

[@badchefi]

Finland also has six times more debt - six times…..

[@Tuhoeterra]

we don't live next to Russia

[@mattgordon9179]

@@Tuhoeterra Nor does Australia.

[@stevesmith1923]

We just use the goodwill of the five eyes and now Japan.

[@davidlawton898]

Like the Saab Gripen. Fast refuelling & turnaround, maintainable, excellent EW...kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3yvi3yupLKid68&ab_channel=Sandboxx

[@01orNone]

Judith answered it without being direct about china being concern. Keep friends close & your enemies closer.

[@fleurstarable]

Nz is a Proxy if US UK .. they & we are broke. We need to sit down & shut up.

[@cameronjohns8639]

Have not been a fan of Judith but she spoke well here

[@t.h.o.r.]

white lady speak with forked tongue

[@t.h.o.r.]

Never forget that the 'honorable' judith conducted the inquiry as transport minister into whether her husband's company Oravida Kauri was responsible for the damage to to the Marsden- Mangere jet fuel pipeline.

[@Neil-yx3rc]

Judith Collins speaks well.She is forthright and straightforward.She is an asset. Jack Tame’s signature style of quick firing gotcha questions to unsettle those being interviewed did not work this time. Well done Judith your maturity and thoughtfulness for long term better outcomes for New Zealanders on display.

[@nigelmadden7329]

Why is China a concern? How many countries has China invaded! And American is building a port/ base in Paua New Guinea. We need a fleet of fast small boats to patrol our coast line.

[@richardpeychers4076]

America has 800+ bases around the world spreading democracy while NZ had no problem with China as largest trading partner , same Australia, we have seen a steady deterioration in rhetoric of late as America desperately tries to hold onto hegemony in light of BRICS and their following. Much more at play here with changing times ahead

[@ladiezman1277]

@@richardpeychers4076The way china treats its own citizens is the way china wants to treat us ideally. China has concentration camps and is trying to genocide muslims

[@douglasnakamura6753]

China invaded Tibet. China invaded Vietnam in the late '70s. China has militarised the South China Sea and illegally claimed it all the way down to Indonesia. China intimidates and bullies every country in the region, recently even ramming Philippine ships just off their coast.

[@dracovenit9549]

We need more money spent on drones and our human forces. It is so obvious. We have a giant EEZ to defend from pirates and other random vagabonds! We have a lot of pacific nieghbours to help out also.

[@DEFENDERNZ]

China is becoming more and more aggressive - yesterdays death threats aimed at Taiwanese government officials are just one example. They have also set up military outposts on seized shoals and reefs in the South China sea, built abnormally large complexes (including airstrips that can land warplanes) on Scott Base, Antarctica, built the largest naval force on the planet, bullied or coerced almost every country between them and us. What makes people thing we will be spared in their goal of global hegemony? Australia are preparing, why shouldn't we? Better to have defence and not need it that to need it and not have it.

[@MissPerpul]

China china china. We're looking in the wrong direction. Its those fn Yanks we wanna keep an eye on.

[@stanleyallison480]

Because the status quo has enabled China to do all that.

[@lemongate4869]

Because most Kiwis have an extremely naive view of the world. Most are blissful ignorant of NZ in WW2 and how close Devenport was to being bombed. They need to have their little fingers prised off their environmental gods and get ready for war. They need to grow up. Fast.

[@rakesh.c.kukreti25]

Good interview 👍

[@stevesmith1923]

Don't forget about getting intelligence assets as list MPs for national. Which party will be next?

[@socomxx]

New Zealand should not be allowed in AuKuS.

[@MasterChief37]

Neither should Australia. They won’t get their first nuclear submarine until the mid 2030’s. Not much of a deterrence when you don’t have them.

[@douglasnakamura6753]

@@MasterChief37 You can't just wave a magic wand you know. Same for NZ getting fighters back, it would take at least a decade of investment and training.

[@MasterChief37]

@@douglasnakamura6753 I don’t believe NZ need to get it fighters back. There is no threat to NZ that requires them. Just like the threat to Australia that has instigated AUKAS is largely due to US paranoia spilling over to Australia. The idea that Australia’s largest trading partner is a threat is ridiculous.

[@hwcanotabot]

Intelligence agencies may have a good kit, but they need good judgement. Trust you will make much needed overhauls to the agencies.

[@jazmintamou8891]

Wow Judith minister of defence. Fascinating. Surprisingly exciting. Yeah we're so chilled.

[@TroyHutchinson-qq5ig]

@5:00 ´´Once people leave they realise what a really good employer the NZDF is, I mean it really looks after people´´ - Judith Zelensky🤣

[@lyalljunior975]

What are you talking about that was cringe

[@JP-rv6hg]

Only 2 50 year old planes working…. What a joke!

[@thomaslawry5238]

How old are US Airforce B52 aircraft, and how long are they expected to continue in service.?

[@grizzz6884]

they will go for ever , they can fly no matter what , because the are very basic , and you don't need hi tech to nuke a country .

[@bethells86]

She spoke far more frankly and realistically than the finance minister.

[@pwollerman]

Is it that lady that posed with a pistol Then with a chapel?

[@t.h.o.r.]

Its the honorable lady who rented a mansion to 'bishop Brian' and conducted the inquiry into whether her husband's company was responsible for the jet fuel pipeline leak in the swamp next to their premises where they had been extracting swamp kauri to sell to China. And had a 'cup of tea' with investors in in his business while in China when she should have been working for us here in NZ

[@robertjohnston8531]

Training Simulation pistol at the Police College?

[@MyOpinionMostMatters]

I cannot find New Zealand on the map :(

[@jemma_19988]

Combat drones !! These are already being made by that great peaceful " New Zealand owned " (CIA) company Rocket Labs. In the UK they are described as a defence company that manufactures such products for the Americans

[@kjmax1068]

Do your homework Judith. You can blame USA for troubles in Ukraine.

[@greghodge3587]

Absolute rubbish ya Russian troll.

[@douglasnakamura6753]

How so?

[@kenking3188]

Jack is the best on mainstream media, and he is a lightweight, inexperienced, out of his depth fool. Grow up NZ!

[@kiwi32ful]

Couldn't of said it better myself.

[@badchefi]

The only one out of his depth is you Ken -

[@helensussmilch2902]

Well done Judith Collins!

[@marcusclouth9958]

Jack Tame for kaka mouth of the year😂😂😂

[@JimmyDoggy-b1c]

War does not help economy Look at the environmental disasters in Ukraine. & Gaza I agree above comments

[@tommym6515]

Umm wrong. Very wrong. War very much helps the economy, look at the US post WWII. They grew exponentially. Not saying that’s what happen to us, but to say it doesn’t is incorrect.

[@hunha991]

You're looking at the wrong side bud

[@MissPerpul]

War brings in big money. Massive fucking money.

[@waynerobertson511]

@@MissPerpul It does, if you are selling stuff to other combatants. New Zealand would have buy virtually all the hardware from overseas. That would mean a lot of debt for us.

[@lemongate4869]

In WW2, unemployment was non existent due to everyone working on the war effort. The economy also had a huge boost due to the US Marines stationed here.

[@ahoosifoou4211]

Nah we need them. Got to stay with the times or get wrecked when the enemy comes.

[@MrUHTiger]

What enemy ???

[@AS-no5cs]

😂

[@N.kelvyn-m7r]

The enemy is already here , the hypocrite yanks

[@N.kelvyn-m7r]

​@@MrUHTiger American hypocrites and vultures , who will plunder this country like they do all over the world ,

[@ketimarsh-solomon6679]

​​@@MrUHTigerwell obviously the penguins

[@WilliamBong4567]

Bearing in mind, Royal is very much the operative word with the mob.

[@Jack-v6s7j]

If you put it to AI Chat the question you get a straight answer - here is the question - Could you do a basic summary report of what the New Zealand Defence needs in the way of the military - navy/airforce /army and an approximate budget for that. It came with a lot of detail and talked about the replacement of Hercules etc but summed up costings 1.5- 3 billion per year or 4.7 Billion over 10 years - a slightly different scenario. So take 1.5 Billion annually that goes to carbon tax flagellation penalty - and that goes offshore somewhere - And you have your upgrade for the military without any money from anywhere else. Sorted - No worries - Next

[@ayoebi7666]

New zealand 🇳🇿. My decision to restrict some has to do with legitimate of injustice,And lack of Europe prosecutors to providing A global Explanation on television ! am concerned over Europe prosecutors Embracing injustice.

[@richardireland6072]

Nz defence force is literally pointless….we don’t have the money for and actual defence force we don’t even have fighter jets….even if we had the machinery we don’t have the man power…

[@damolux3388]

NZ should still pull its weight in regional security.

[@TyreseSummers]

​@@damolux3388 clearly you havnt been looking at nzdf deployments over the past decade otherwise you wouldnt write such a stupid comment.

[@damolux3388]

@@TyreseSummers The past decade aye, a couple of HADR deployments and a training team to Iraq. They haven't even been in Afghanistan in the last ten years. Answer me this, could the NZDF deploy and sustain a battalion sized group like it deployed to Timor in 99? The answer is no. The NZDF struggles to man one full strength infantry Bn.

[@PigzHeadNz]

Pick a side NZ.?

[@hokimoki3677]

Westside

[@justinhunter7592]

I choose Jesus, that's the side anyone should be on.

[@N.kelvyn-m7r]

BRICS

[@MasterChief37]

@@justinhunter7592what the fuck has Jesus ever done, the cunt died 2000 years ago? There is not now or have there ever been a god, it’s a myth, they even made Jesus look like Thor but without the lightening.

[@trex2579]

Couldnt even control the national party now u defend the country all of a sudden what a joke

[@andrewsolly2895]

Labour's jack tame interviews Judith collins

[@thesearethefables]

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[@cr8zymichael]

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[@CierraMetzga]

James Clark's market insights have consistently led to profitable decisions.

[@seanhibbeler]

I recently sold half my tech stock holdings due to all-time highs, leaving me with $400k. Should I invest in ETFs now or wait for a market correction considering potential inflation?

[@OthelloTheiss]

Celebrating a $30k stock portfolio today from a $6k start. Investing wisely has given me time for family and future plans.

[@tamethetikbalang]

From $37K to $45K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.

[@jasoncollins1702]

Talk about your aging warhorses..

[@harapaki3412]

lol

[@Axis1977j]

Is this replacement for no jets

[@harapaki3412]

Lol... combat drones.. how laughable

[@banangnang]

What is your take on combat drones?

[@davidlawton898]

@@banangnang Take a look at Counter drone warfare eg Droneshield (DRO on ASX)

[@douglasnakamura6753]

@@banangnang seems he doesn't have one 🤣

[@Ricky-nq7lu]

More like you bent over & talked American talking points. Don't make this our fight Judith as we can do more for peace by staying neutral. Keys mistake is our Horror. P.S Funny that our 757 gets the shits every time mainstream media are onboard. Seems the 757 don't like lairs as well.

[@lemongate4869]

Neutral? Aggressor countries take no notice of neutraliity.

[@maverick8296]

@@lemongate4869 you are talking to an idiot

[@saxandrelax6781]

Shes good

[@dwee3005]

She's horrible, are you blind

[@tomrobinson8593]

I like that the NZDF is seeing an increase in the enlistment of recruits! I also believe that compulsory 2 year military service should be reintroduced for 18 year old's, providing a 1 year combat ready program and a 1 year trade or academic subject of choice program.

[@adsdft585]

If the NZ Police had drones would catch more burglars? Would reduce the number of burglaries? More cameras on streets? In Rotorua the council spent $1m extra on cameras in their CBD and hired security officers it had a positive effect, and NZ Police relocated officers from other duties to patrol the CBD more ( regular stuff ).

[@MasterChief37]

Rotorua has a large population of people who are know for violence, the police have to be more proactive than other duties in NZ.

[@adriandocherty778]

The US gave the taliban free military equipment. We’ve seen how they treat their allies!! Making deals with the devil!!🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Adam-my4cm]

Judith .... you've found your niche

[@grizzz6884]

@9.04 russia has a central bank , they doing what they are told just like the rest of us . have a look into the last man who thought he was above a central bank

[@TheFalconerNZ]

NZ does not need to have a military force, it would be better to have a militarised civil defense/reconstruction forces. Let other nations do the killing & NZ do the rebuilding. We can't afford to get into an arms race in a mad rush to get better & better weapons that cost more & more, both to buy & maintain. Turning our military forces into emergence reconstruction forces to help rebuild our nation after natural disaster of increasing frequency & intensity would be a far better use of our military budget. Don't buy tanks & cannons, buy bulldozers & cranes. If our military were trained construction forces rebuilding after would be both cheaper & quicker. Remember destroying is easy, rebuilding is harder but more valuable.

[@matthewbolton1563]

Watch current affairs show: 30 with Guyon Espiner with Peter zylon and come back to me

[@lemongate4869]

Oh, yes because belligerent countries are so scared of countries that hug trees...

[@maverick8296]

Youre a joke

[@craigdavies8099]

@@matthewbolton1563 Peter Zehan gets almost everything wrong, listening to him makes you dumber.

[@AS-no5cs]

Well said!!

[@glaws365]

Amazing .. Jack learnt some interviewing skills coming up against some smart Coalition politicians (women). Pity he did nothing worth listening to for the last 10 years. Labour lackey

[@byron2882]

Jacks always looking for some click bait headline, bloody shame as hes actually a good interviewed, if you can look past the left wing bias. Collins the penultimate pro, im glad shes still in Government.

[@elvismiki9121]

More money wasted on crap we just don't need what war are you gaining up for and good luck with that 😉😁🤣

[@neilstuarr2278]

Yes what war!! Wars happen and its due to an aggressor that starts it. When is the aggressor coming?. Aggressors come to a place like this if they are already in war mode. The conditions exist now so action needs taken.

[@maverick8296]

lefty, hippie, no brains

[@lyalljunior975]

North Korea and china what do you think

[@ThomasHeta-z1y]

I hope this government will be on the front line, lucky maori are irrelevant to these maori bashers we will defend our own

[@stevesmith1923]

What the? Are you OK?

[@malwalker2682]

PAKEEHAA GOT ALL THE LAND WE STAND AN WATCH FROM THE SIDE LINE THIS TIME STOLE ALL OWL NANA LANDS

[@stevesmith1923]

@@malwalker2682 Can you speak English? And why the capslock? Most Maori have white blood too? Did they steal the land from themselves? Idiot!

[@MasterChief37]

@@malwalker2682you didn’t learn how to spell, that’s your problem a lot of you guys are so lacking it’s hard to believe you worked out breathing…