Observations on ENTPs (INTP)

[@Skimmerlit]

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[@orangejuicey9789]

For other ENTPs play this at 1.5x speed

[@dizalgumacoisa]

Why would you do that when INTPs easily makes slow talk sexy?

[@orangejuicey9789]

@@dizalgumacoisa That's the problem, it's too sexyyy for my afternoon siesta. I might.. doze off. 😆

[@Alexi_Blue]

Thank you kind sir

[@mayareslam5750]

​Agree the only reason am not speeding this video lol ​@@dizalgumacoisa

[@Joegglv]

MY guuyyy 😂

[@jaydenroberts2615]

I’m shocked you can see that ENTPs are warm. It usually takes so long for someone to realise that I actually really do give a shit about people. But because of that prickly, critical exterior, people usually take what I say as an insult or prying

[@mysimpletoon]

I'm an ENTP, and this is the most interesting and on point thing I've ever seen. Being an ENTP is literally Joker brain. I think most of us desperately just want to play. That's all it is. Be it debating, gaming, relationships, or self improvement. And if we can't get that stimulation nicely, we play the villain- because everyone plays with the villain. **Edit** I would also agree with the lying. For me at least, it's always a means to steer things to be either more interesting or to actually help someone. I don't think I've ever lied about something that hurt/damaged anyone. I think that's why a lot of comedians are ENTPs, because we can easily "embellish" a story to make it seem much more funny/interesting.

[@headoverheels899]

As another ENTP, I don't really lie, I hate lying and is bluntly truthful, however I'm quite prone to play a character and tricking people in a harmless way. Lying is for me is just keeping my mentality tethered to that secret, and I hate bindings.

[@user-re6fv6fq2h]

You hit home, when you said we are warm inside and do it for the good. Thank you for noticing

[@ekkoofficialmusic]

Pretty accurate: I've had this struggle myself for a long time, where I was focussed so much on other people's attention that I lost myself in the process. Been through the "keeping people at arm's length" part too. When it comes to the lying it's strange, because not only am I able to convince others, I even manage lie to myself that I end up believing it. TI seems to strong enough to come up with a logic for everything FE, SI or the shadow want to believe and in the most lies there is so much truth that no one questions it, not even myself. You're also right about the "lying because we want to make others feel better or to protect them" - which maybe just another attempt to keep them in our proximity but often it ends up repelling them. ENTPs can get quite people-pleasing because of the emptiness inside and the desire for close connections. Often they end up getting screwed over so many times. What worked for me: finding a small circle of really good people and give a damn about the opinions of everyone outside that circle.

[@DonKynos]

Pretty sure antipsychotics and mental illness have extinguished my Ne and fried my brain. My reward pathway is almost completely non-functional. I really don't feel like much of an ENTP anymore. Although even beforehand I was never exactly an overachieving ENTP. I'd work on projects here and there but long term goals and basic executive functioning always evaded me. I also seem to suffer from being smart in some ways and stupid and spacey in other ways. People say, or at least used to say that I am articulate, but I personally never felt this to be the case. And I especially don't know. It feels like my brain is foggy and mushy. Even something as simple as writing comments feels hard now, and I feel like I'm butchering most of it. I feel extremely inarticulate.

[@ak38595]

I hope you feel better soon

[@Dd-bx1up]

You are very articulate. Are you sure you are ENTP? Best wishes and quick recovery!

[@dhianprameswari3524]

Same 😢 , i'm going through it now

[@nicoleni7192]

your thoughts descriptions sound uncannily exactly like one of my ENTP friends who is currently taking a lot of hard classes in high school (I am too, but in different subject areas) she says it's because she feels overwhelmed and if you are too, maybe you could dive into thinking about what are the sources of it and why. We had this conversation in class, so it was just about 10 minutes that we were talking about this and it was also a couple days ago. I could talk to her more about this if you request so, and I'll share her thoughts. Also, she has said that if she doesn't want to do a task like for example, responding to a text because she doesn't feel up to typing, her strategy is that if a matter is important enough, it will come up again, and that's when she will do it. So that's energy conserving. this could be related, but I can't tell without more detail on your explanation on why: Another strategy that I found myself is that pain is relative, so like even if I read comics for one day or read my biology textbook for one day, I'm still going to feel pain, (plus fun stuff will not be fun if it's relatively often anyway) so why not pick the pain that has benefits. I keep that in mind when I'm resistant because of the fact that I think I'm not up to something or that it will be painful.

[@yoshialts6579]

@@Dd-bx1up lol what

[@Adam-bz3ts]

Great video highlighting us. Definitely need more INTPs analyzing us so we can get better at being less “stinky” around people

[@Adam-bz3ts]

I am going to comment again just to show my appreciation for this video. I would love a video about how us ENTPs interact with other types. No one else (INTPs) understand us better!

[@sylviaowega3839]

Agreed 💯 as an INTP myself.

[@MasterPhilip616]

ENTP here and super late to the party, but I would love that analysis, as well.

[@jks234]

Lol. The best summary of ENTPs I have ever heard.

[@sylviaowega3839]

Very insightful Skimmerkit, and I really appreciate your innovative ideas, as opposed to parroting ideas from the others, which is what I find most KZbin typologists do.

[@leeci33]

Loved the alligator vs human under water analogy and I totally agree with how we can live in a flurry for wild amounts of time and no one else would be able to sustain living in chaos and be achieving goals at the same time.

[@LiveTorsionParadoxTo]

I am an ENTP - There are ways out of all these difficult outcomes. There is plenty of scope for harmonised integration of the functions. Honesty, patience and scrutiny of your habits are key. You'll hate this and struggle with it and then you'll love it.

[@staticfpv881]

As an ENTP, we love hard truths. We can shake you , to help you. This doesn’t make it right to do all the time . We are always searching to improve ourselves and or others . We really don’t care too much if ppl like us or not . The truth is more important. Social titles mean nothing. We live how we want . We will speak what is truth to us with confidence. And are open to being wrong as long as it has logical truth backing it up. ENTPs the most introverted extrovert. You’ve been around unhealthy ENTPS 😂😂

[@safe957]

I think he still has a point, healthy ENTPs or not that is the i guess hard truth most have

[@Mike_B.]

Pretty sure ENFPs comes first at being the most introverted extrovert. And ENTPs come second.

[@1chienandalou]

@@Mike_B. umm no! ENTP and ENTJ are more introverted - their Ti/Ni pulls them in by necessity. ENFP isn’t gonna get much grounding on their Ne by their Fi. (I also never even heard of ENFP being considered one of the introverted extrovert it was always either ENTP or ENTJ. So maybe I am unaware of something you know but this is what I know)

[@1chienandalou]

We do love hard truths as we love any truth. But I didn’t get it in this video.

[@sylviaowega3839]

As an INTP myself I actually get along much better with ENTP’s than almost all the other types, -even the INTJ’s that complain a lot. My INFJ and ENFJ’s have frequently diss me as a friend due to misunderstandings and getting offended by something I said, but not the ENTP. They seems to understand me better.

[@sylviaowega3839]

It seems to me that you have had either a totally different set of ENTP’s, or bad luck with them than myself. As a female INTP, I have had much worse luck with ENFJ’s, both male and female. My old ENFJ would diss me once they had to use for me, get offended easily about something I would say; and the make ENFJ that I knew (and know) sleep worn anything that walks on two legs. Whist my ENTP’s I know have been a lot more loyal and stuck around me.

[@caligulawellington3171]

An ENTP here. YEs, I agree with your analysis about the ENTP:s. It is rather painful trying to help, discuss, or enlighten without someone not getting it, and getting offended by it. It is not in an ENTP:s nature to start arguments. But people decide to argue with us. So just like you said, the options are to either disengage, or embrace the chaos/conflict that others insist on bringing to us when we really just want to be useful. And every time that happens, my faith in humanity dies a little. But it grows whenever I find someone to connect with. As an ENTP, I highly value honesty and truth. I don't want to lie, so I become a verbal punching bag instead. People wants ENTP:s to lie, so we have to choose between lying to keep the peace, or sticking to the truth and take the consequences. And even if we are nice and polite in our way of saying things, some people still gets offended. We want to help, and people hate us for it.

[@calpster2390]

i really loved this video as an entp. the thing that hit me the most is the aspect of constantly doing things and running and this pursuit of pleasures. Yet at the end of the day you come home after another 'night of your life' whether with a girl, the boys, drugs, alcohol or all five. You feel the emptiness. Mabe this pursuit is actaully more of a fleeing of the emptiness following you. anyways really good video.

[@YaburuRunyaru]

Playback speed x1.75 👌

[@nthmost]

ENTP here. What you say in the video about how much we care, and people don't realize that we fight *because* we care -- I mean otherwise, why would we? -- is spot on. I think this is similar to how sometimes INTPs piss people off by sharing what they see as the truth (and it usually IS the truth), and people think they're -- as one of my school nuns put it -- "just trying to get [their] goat". Recently I shared with my sisters the fact that I would rather piss someone off than to have something I care about go overlooked. To say it another way: I'd much rather people get mad at me when I bring up an important conflict that needs to be dealt with than allow people to go on sweeping things under the rug. And I will always remember fondly the shock emoji that my ENFJ sister put on that statement.

[@tessy4018]

Lmao ENTP and only been with 1 partner my entire life for almost 10 years. I’d argue we rarely give up in relationships because we always see different solutions (Ne) and not that interested in hurting others (Fe) which promiscuity often leads to

[@nihiladmirari6065]

Same

[@Marses970]

THAT is an immature and unhealthy ENTP, BUT interesting somehow. Would be interesting having others into this comment, will share it

[@benedictusmaladaptus2712]

Sure agree on the criminal bent and being good at it. When I enter a space I instantly spot the cameras, mirrors, any other surveillance device that isn't totally hidden, and do so without those watching even noticing that I've spotted them. Always been an excellent thief, burglar, etc. Good at getting past security, locks, etc. Pull off things right in front of cameras, people looking at me, etc, and no one spots anything because I'm smart, clever, resourceful, and nonchalant. Always worked alone because whenever anyone else was involved they were a problem. Spent most of my youth on the streets, alone, and at night. I came alive when it got dark. Oh, and I have excellent night vision. I'm far more a cat than a dog.

[@Monnoponno34627]

Very interesting, when did you do all these burglaries? They sound really cool! Any stories?

[@benedictusmaladaptus2712]

@@Monnoponno34627 That's all behind me now as I'm an old cat, but it was a solid 20 years of my younger life. When I was really young it was because my home was so f*d up that I spent my nights on the streets. Then I left home and lived out there. That's when it was survival theft. Food, clothes, anything I could easily carry and sell. Things I needed. Some time later I came back from a tour in the military and dove into a 15 year drug-addled life in unsavory company (a meth cooker and his biker minions). It's been over 20 years since I left that life completely and decided to grow the f*k up. Now I'm doing quite well and looking forward to an excellent retirement. The only time I was ever caught was at age 15 for burglary. Didn't know a neighbor was up and saw us going in and they called the cops. When we came out we were surrounded. After that I decided to work alone because the reason we missed the alert neighbor is because we were too busy whispering to each other and being in a rush. After that I worked alone because I was super patient and could sit quietly in the dark for as long as it took to determine if it was safe. Like the patience and alertness of a cat. The best haul was when I stole a meth dealers car when we knew he had a fresh batch and a lot of cash in the trunk, which we knew because he was out distributing the batch my friends sold him. It was an older Mustang, so it was easy to take. Took it from in front of an apartment he was making a delivery at, to people we knew, and when. While he was inside I hotwired the ignition and drove the car to the cookers friend's place and pulled it into the garage where we divvied up the stuff and they stripped what they wanted out of the car. A couple days later they got rid of what was left of the car using a trailer they used for a race car, driving it to the wooded outskirts of town and pushing it off the trailer. The one I laughed the most about was when I took a dealers Harley right out of his apartment foyer while he was sleeping off a multi-day binge. He kept his bike in his apartment so no one would steal it. He had a good deadbolt on the front door, but did nothing to make his sliding glass door from his fenced in patio secure (other than putting a padlock on the gate of a 6 foot redwood fence, which was easy to climb over.). By sliding a flat bar under the door and gently lifting, I literally lifted the latch up and over the catch, then slid the door open. I slipped in, slid the door shut and made sure it was locked, opened the front door, sat on the bike and rolled it back out the door just like I'd seen him do. I could hear him snoring the whole time. I knew the layout and process because I delivered a few batches to him now and again (couldn't stand the guy). Leaving his front door wide open, I sat on the bike (like he did) and pushed the bike backwards out of the apartment, then got off and pushed it out of the apartment complex to a safe spot, hot wired the ignition and rode it to the cooker, who paid me 2 grand cash and an ounce of crystal. I heard they stripped it and kept everything but the engine block. Then there was several years looking like a legit person but stealing from my employers or neighboring businesses. Tools, and a lot of computers. Didn't waste bandwidth on lugging monitors and peripherals. Just the PC's. Was never caught because I knew the layout and would do it where the situation would either be some time before it was realized, or there would be too many possible suspects. I got really good at removing identifying numbers, scrubbing hard drives and installing a fresh OS so I could sell them. I knew my way around the BIOS so could make sure any tracking was deactivated, and if I couldn't deactivate it I scrapped it for parts. It was a side hustle for a while. What I'm most fascinated by is that I have this huge, crazy past (way past any statute of limitations), but live a respectable life: married, great career, beautiful home I've work hard to completely remodel, developed excellent professional interpersonal skills, and no one suspects anything about my past... I am given a huge amount of trust... And it makes me wonder how many more people are like me.

[@srose1088]

I think why the high Fe and ENTP type lying is similar has to do with the Ti Fe combination and if they have both in any of the top 3 stack it will come out in the way they do it. ENTPs are most commonly enigram 7 or an 8 and the vice of each is gluttony and lust respectively so I think that has something to do with the way they act too.

[@Niveous23]

I don't actually 'slut around'. I highly value fidelity. Now I did flirt when bored. Which is prolly it's own fucked up sorta thing. I think an ENTP that is pleasure spiraling is gonna happen. Like... I will stress eat. I will start fist fights. I will heavily indulge when I spiral. So I see it happening. We are actually learning all the time by pushing buttons, and we do push you to be better versions of yourself. And you're not wrong about our lack of identity. I don't get it, and I spent way too much energy trying. So I give the fuck up. I didn't know INTPs had identities to speak so cavalier about my identity crisis? Good for you. I think. And you're very wrong about our choices to be lonely as hurtful. It WAS hurtful. But keeping people at arm's length is pretty chill. My Fe is happy, my need to around others is engaged, my need to dissect others is still good. Like you're correct when the ENTP is young. I think the older ENTP has made peace with pretty much all of our fucked up combos and how it feedback loops to us through interactions. I can turn it on and off at will. I don't see the identity thing as a big deal. Isn't that the goal of human existence? To grow and learn? Not to marry an idea about who and what you are? What if it's a toxic marriage you have to your self image? You gonna stick it out for 18 painful years of cognitive dissonance? I can shed an identity like a snake, because I frankly outgrew it. People talk about self growth, but they also place so much value on who and what they are. Like...who are we....mere humans....to think you got it all figured out? It takes a few hormone imbalances and people wanna 404 themselves. We're not that unbiased and smart. Why not stand ready to just....jump into new data as it presents itself. Hard to do that if there is some deep inner conflict about self identity or w/e the hell it is people yammer on about.

[@ArtinJ]

Very insightful! I especially loved the part about "live this way" and comparison between other NTs!

[@bojackharris1735]

Reminds me of the Joker lying to Batman about the location of Harvey and Rachel in the Dark Knight movie. He just switched the locations knowing Batman would go after Rachel instead of Harvey.

[@spanishtutor2552]

Pretty nihilistic perspective dear INTP YOU GOT MY ATTENTION,

[@tumblingworm737]

I have to listen to this in 1.75x and the rain sounds like frying 🍳

[@SpxcyMxyo]

When you said "just keep your mouth shut", i got a laugh and you got a like. 😅

[@nik_glas]

for entps its a challenge to sit through this video

[@user-zn3uu2rz4z]

*1.5 speed bro)

[@Marses970]

I heard it again , and loved it! describe specific real exchanges, details help. Interesting generalizations though. The comments!!!!! This is precious Grateful

[@rumpertthejester3491]

Brilliantly novel! Stingingly insightful. Well done!

[@Meikan_is_here]

How can you speak in such speed, way too chill😌 I had to put on 2×

[@Meikan_is_here]

Interesting video btw

[@Spider-Too-Too]

This vid is deeps it’s like awaking the voice that’s hiding deep inside myself

[@beetfarmer9733]

I think you may be too black or white on this one... and that is where it becomes easy to disagree with you. I smell a strong "pungent" Ti lol... "If this then that" but your predications are very general, yet based on some bold premises... And I get you're subjectively painting a generalized picture based off your observation, but I get the impression you don't really know many ENTPs and/or you had an annoying experience with unhealthy ENTPs and have a bias. Mostly what you are describing sounds like unhealthy ENTP behavior. I'd disagree with: - The promiscuity - The nihilistic attitude - The loneliness and difficultly in having relationships - The lack of tact and coming off mindlessly as an asshole shitting all over the place Although, given your signature slight pessimistic tone and dry sense of humor, you do seem to be pretty equalizing and left off leaning more towards the positive... but I think it's still somewhat a depressing look at an ENTP. Type 7 seem to be all about optimism, and applying that to Ne dom - it's insistent on maneuvering around a situation to find a perspective that results in favor of whatever/whoever we want. This shines light on inferior Si in the ability to drop contradicting "bad" information cold.. and demon Se in the refusal to see "reality" as it is.. As if one could anyways lol. I agree with the "shaking" of a person to figure out what they are.. but not in the tactless way you illustrate. More so via curiosity and questions and more questions.. maybe most people aren't use to others trying to see who they really are. Reminds me of Diogenes holding up a lantern to strangers looking for "real people". In a better lighting though, ENTP's Fe seems to playfully aspire to the unconscious Si duty of an older sibling when they do see potential.. still critical and honest, but are good salespeople that can hype up the advice to seem like an absolute urgent necessity... and this (to me) seems almost like a humanitarian act because its viewed as one step closer towards the betterment of the world via the vessel of "truth". I do feel like not many truly know me, but I don't feel lonely here, instead like a rogue. Free. Formless with room to operate unnoticed behind the scenes.. maybe it's trickster Fi, but "I" is an illusion that maybe ENTPs see too many people kid their selves with.. and maybe there's a kick to get out of messing with the character someone is playing... For those that don't allow their ego to get in the way, I feel I can treat them seriously... Maybe it's a vetting process?... challenging... there is a fear that motivates it... I'm scared sometimes actual people don't really exist... Like they could all just be NPCs... But when I do find someone that seems to get the game/charade they become tangible and real to me and I tell them anything they want to know... this is where I give all my loyalty... what's the point to being loyal to a NPC? Half the time I feel like I'm in Skyrim and want to run around stabbing everybody lol... Any who... I like your videos, just wanted to disagree with you.. see it as a friend thing.. maybe that's what you get for taking so long to make a video on ENTPs? lol. I'll be looking forward to the next one you make on them.

[@Dd-bx1up]

Subscribed. Extremely interesting and deep perspective over ENTPs, thank you! Yet, I strongly disagree with our alleged 'lonliness' and 'depression'. It is true that we are prone to experience a 'dark night of the soul' journey in life, because we are, after all, truth seekers in our hearts. It is also true that we are affected by the hostility of people. But trust me, a real ENTP never feels lonely in the true sense of the word, because 1) somehow they always end by attracting people, without doing nothing to this aim; 2) (the most important) we have a rich inner world and we are always on a mission, the mission to understand the deep meaning of the world and to find who we really are and to live true to ourselves. Therefore, we are never bored and lonely, simply bcs our inner complexity does not allow this to happen. ENTPs have this inner knowledge and deep understanding of 'the bigger picture', so to say. They are extremely spiritual in their essence, and even if they might lose themselves on the way, it is only temporary. We know that life is a teaching experience on how to find happiness and that happiness is an inner state of being, independant of anything exterior. And we enjoy this experience, knowing that it is something greater beyond. It is a deep wisdom that may be found in each ENTP. That is why we are taking so many 'risks' (from others perspective) and that is why nothing and nobody truly and realy can affect us. We are indeed more detached when it comes to our egos than may appear, and thus is not a myth, this is our reality. We know that ultimately all it is between God and each of us, not between us and the others.

[@nihiladmirari6065]

100000000% Absolutely

[@mayareslam5750]

Still with all these distractions and busy mind , i feel depressed and lonely deep inside Cause guess what we are a walking paradox

[@giomar89]

Hi @Skimmerlit I have a (probably stupid) question that I’m gonna ask it in this one. Any thoughts on similarities between ENTPs and ENTJs? I’m an INTP and at my worst point (so far) in life I met what I still believe has been my most significant friendship ever. I’m sure I’d married her if she had been a man. Please, bear in mind I was mentally unhealthy at that time, so all my observations might be extremely biased but: we bonded over similar interests in particular, and a love for anything philosophical/cultural in general. I met her in an arabic course, since she was about to graduate from history and wanted to become a war journalist in the middle east. From the very beginning she struck me as very intelligent and driven, and as very assured of herself (“this is who I am, this is what I like, if you don’t like it go f*** yourself”). Her “faults” were also apparent to me from the get go, in a way that I wasn’t used to for how clear it was. She was argumentative to a fault, and seemed incapable of seeing how most people would always get uncomfortable at a certain point with her “debates.” Instead of dropping the whole thing, she kept on pushing (ENTP? ENTJ?) to the point that I could see people turning against her in real time (exactly as you describe in your “INTJ observations”) Her argumentation style was certainly confrontational, i.e. you’d feel she wanted to demolish you/question your very core (ENTJ?/ ENTP?) Together with her peacocking that made her very much disliked by almost everybody (ENTJ? ENTP?) However, she seemed completely unaware that people disliked her for her argumentativeness, for her desire to debate everything, and for her bragging. People literally could NOT understand why I was her friend, but to me it was always clear that she was an incredibly caring, empathic person. In fact, I think I partially related to her because her lack of self-awareness was almost “cute” to me, as in, it was extremely obvious that she bragged and argumented with the hope to be liked, all the while achieving the exact opposite effect. When I shared “chamaleoning” to her, she was surprised and acknowledged the fact she had never thought she had to “fake it.” I was struck by that: I never thought I’d be “better” at socialising than somebody else. Although she had her own beliefs (mostly Freedom, with capital F) she was always ready to discuss anything detachedly, putting aside her libertarianism (ENTP?) Btw, she always reluctantly admitted I was “more insightful” yet explicitly told me she “knew better and was more capable”. Again, annoying as that was (most of her takes and opinions were missinformed/underinformed/illogical) I never saw ill-intent in that, rather a certain sense of responsability towards me. She didn’t knew better, but if “being capable”=“taking action,” she definitely was more capable. Even if her actions were ill-advised. Despite her drive, she was extremely chaotic in her life. She procrastinated as I much as I do, but on top of that, she survived situations that were logistically mayhem, and she did so with an apparent effortlessness that still baffles me (ENTP?) I eventually “broke up” with her because, to me, she slowly revealed herself to be the exact opposite of what she had introduced herself as. She had initially wanted to be highly academic and educated, but I progressively came to realise she saw culture/knowledge as a source of competitive self-worth, not as something pursued with a genuine interest. All her endeavours in this regard (which she liked to voice aloud and publicly) ended up nowhere: she never graduated, never learnt arabic, never learnt to play the piano, stopped travelling, etc. Instead, she progressively became obsessed with projecting a very successful image (successful in the most mainstream way, e.g. Wolf of Wall-street). As she became more fixed with proving to everybody that she “could make it”, her argumentative and confrontational ways turned into 24/7 full-fledged anger at everybody, and dismissiveness towards everybody (despite becoming comparatively less intellectually able, since her energy was focused elsewhere. She also surrounded herself with people who were of a lower cultural background and who offered her no intellectual resistance) It wasn’t pretty at all, and although I was the exception to the rule, eventually I couldn’t stand it. When I walked out I felt like I had witnessed the very embodyment of “stagnation.” She wasn’t a genius (as she claimed), but she had so much potential, and deep down just wanted to be loved. In the end she managed to secure the type of job she wanted, and when I lost contact with her she was on her way to get a big house and flashy car. She always got ENTP on tests, but her overall arch strikes me as more ENTJ. Your ENTJ content seems to me the most insightful, and I’d love to know your take. I still wonder what the fuck went wrong with her, and with our friendship.

[@Skimmerlit]

None of that is ENTP. Male and female ENTJs are externally different but internally the same. There are a few options: 1. Depending on the tests, she could be an ESTJ. They often mistype as ENTPs. 2. She could be an INTJ. 3. She could be an ENTJ with parental issues and/or some major unacknowledged disability. When female ENTJs are young, have problems, and lack guidance, they can be even worse than INTJs. They'll fixate on the appearance/feeling of an idea and ignore/never internalize the reality of one. I would guess ENTJ with problems getting ready to enter a flaming downward spiral in 5-10 years.

[@giomar89]

​@@Skimmerlit that's really insightful, thanks. She did have A LOT of parental issues and a couple of badly failed romantic relationships on her back (she was either incredibly self-delusional or the worst at judging character I have ever seen, probably a bit of both). Over a span of 9 years it was impossible to talk to her about these two issues, which IMO needed to be addressed asap. All my direct attempts at addressing them were met with "yeah yeah, you say that because in my situation you'll crumble, but I'm really tough". Indirect attempts and hints obviously went "unnoticed."

[@Skimmerlit]

Try not to think about her besides as a reminder always to criticize yourself. Something nasty will happen to her, and she’ll drag everyone around her down with her. I’m sorry things turned out the way they did.

[@giomar89]

@@Skimmerlit thanks, I know I did the rational thing, but sometimes still feel like I walked out of her life when she most needed, and justified my giving-up as self-preservation. Take care and keep the wonderful content coming.

[@Bsnabsjsvanbs]

Nothing particularly contributive to this comment more like a rant :) but I had a friend very similar to the one you described, and this kind of people really leaved me with a prospective on how much some people can be delusional and manipulative, considering even that for most of our friendship I was someone who did not contrasted her intellectually being very insecure, the moment I had the opportunity to leave she just never heard of me again because debating on how she liked to feel superior and choose her friendship based on that would have been just tiring and unusefull considering she would have tried to deny everything and eventually fall on the good side to seem respectable and mature, much better doorslam her in the face. Did someone encountered also those unhealthy type? If yes what was your impression on them?

[@Acesix06]

dudeeee, you dived the deepest than anybody has ever done, f scary

[@avocadoperson]

Nooooo not the constant feeling of emptiness and loneliness ;__; At least this video made me remember that my way of thinking and doing is causing this and it doesn't have to be this way, there's a world outside of this perspective.. Which is a perspective that considers many perspectives but not all of them appearently. I've been actually trying lately but things don't seem to work out. What could I be missing¿ Hopefully will figure it out at some point

[@Raphael0654]

Look up Sam Vaknin's lectures on Covert Borderlines (a hybrid cluster b diagnosis he invented); every male ENTP I've known lives up to its criteria to a T.

[@franckydanger7536]

Hey thanks always love to have good perspectives from Ti types!🤟

[@Adam-bz3ts]

About time we get an ENTP video!

[@sylviaowega3839]

Great video and a very accurate description of ENTP vs. INTP’s.

[@vangiesellshouses]

Most accurate description of myself even though some parts were painful to hear

[@savannahlee6899]

lol would love some more ENTP videos around the place but even as an entp i love hangin around and watching ur INTP and ENTJ videos, hope u find ur promiscuous wifey one day hun~ ;)))

[@Adam-bz3ts]

Ima comment again for the algorithm to also say that we do love people and want to help them but it’s true it doesn’t get appreciated or gets interpreted the wrong way

[@loganc2729]

As an ENTP most of this is completely true! A pretty great summary of my take on life n shit

[@KafkaKappa]

Im curious, what you see from the NF types when in these areas. such as lies / promiscuity etc etc or do NF types seem to go down a completely different alley so your findings/thoughts on the NT types don't cross over all that easily/accurately

[@clear_mindsetgem]

bro im an entp. i do know what to do...but i procrastinate so much that ultimately i lose my golden oppurtunities...and im in this loop...can you talk about it?...or just reply it in comment bro?...

[@jonney5701]

Would you ever consider doing a video on SI grip within ENFP/ENTP?

[@Skimmerlit]

If I ever gather enough good information. I never see people talking about it.

[@josephe9487]

Grip as an opening up A tightly sealed Pickle jar? Because I am really good at that (entp)... Well, I'm not 100%. Sure, i'm entp The other three types that I could possibly be instead, might be enfp, infp or intp... But it looks as tho the more Information I get on other types from Different perspectives the More, it seems to be ENTP But I'm always skeptical Of my own analysis and the analysis of mbti youtubers and/or self-pro-claim mbti experts. Street Urchin Make a video about how The other 3 types I mention Are the ones With the highest probability of mistyping themselves as ENTPs. So somewhat recently I have been Investigating these other 3 types in order to not be an other accidental ENTP pretender. Which would just add further confusion to the mbti community and we certainly Do not want that.

[@1chienandalou]

You admit ENTP are few and far in between (and in my life maybe I have met one other ENTP and I’m 40), Yet you will make generalizations like this? Promiscuous and what not included come on now.

[@replicant357]

Strange how this is in my feed today, right around the same time as being randomly promiscuous

[@nic5916]

Don’t know whether to be depressed, intrigued or to give myself props for rising above many of the self destructive ENTP behaviours. I would like to know how many ENTP’s are Christian (like myself). It goes against our type. I still struggle with being a bit stinky 😅 - female entp

[@nic5916]

@@hxxzxtf fair enough. I only became a believer 8 yrs ago at the age of 42. Didn’t have anyone influence me at that time. Its a worry when people use God as a weapon or means of coercion.

[@TheRyanHeffner]

I’m an entp and a reluctant Christian. In my 20s I was heavily immersed in raki (sp?) and contacting people without bodies. I opened doors to the spirit realm that, turns out, I couldn’t close myself. I used to rail against Christians. Calling them soft minded retards who wanted an easy answer for the mysteries of the spirit realm. Then I went to the bottom of the spiritual barrel, and there I was approached by a powerful being who tried to court me to the dark side so to say. This was after 10+ years of spiritual practice. I denied the invitation, shortly after, Jesus revealed himself to me after years of me spitting in his face. Never going back again. Most intellectuals who vocally rail against Jesus aren’t brave enough, or don’t have the follow through to really explore the spirit realm to the outer limits. I did. And Jesus really is like this get out of jail free card written into the code of this place.

[@nic5916]

@@TheRyanHeffner yep Jesus is the answer! I went down so many rabbit holes, always suss about everything. I knew something was not right in the world. Becoming a believer solved all those questions and the puzzle pieces fitted!!! So glad He pulled you out of the dark side 😊🙏🏼

[@TheRyanHeffner]

See you up there sister

[@leeci33]

Im christian. It’s def hard. But def worth it.

[@jules5177]

Jeez, that hit hard 😢

[@sugarmagnolia33]

This was a knife to the chest. Peace

[@233kosta]

What's the point of making a good argument against a position when you're going to tell the other person that you actually agree with that position 5 minutes later? The mind boggles...

[@tikari3987]

Disagree with the promiscuity thing, know plenty of ENTP´s who never cheated on anyone. On the other hand, not sure if I know a single ESTP who didn´t at some point in their lives.

[@caphung]

yo, we don't smell bad

[@BernArd-w1l]

Im sorry but I am scared to him up to this day when I have similar thoughts coming from my friends. I have few close friends but I tend to care to all people yet I ended up always have that one friend who I spill all my dark secrets and knew me better when I am aloof

[@ricoselkum]

Being an ENTP is like being an oyster that don't enjoy making pearls, but have a grain of sand inside Us.

[@josephe9487]

I think I am entp It appears to be the most logical one According to how I am but I'm not 100%. Sure, i'm entp The other three types that I could possibly be instead, might be enfp, infp or intp... But it looks as tho the more Information I get on other types from Different perspectives the More, it seems to be ENTP But I'm always skeptical of my own analysis and the analysis of mbti youtubers and/or self-pro-claim mbti experts. Street Urchin (entp ytber) Made a video about how The other 3 types I mention Are the ones With the highest probability of mistyping themselves as ENTPs. So somewhat recently I have been Investigating these other 3 types in order to not be an other accidental ENTP pretender. Which would just add further confusion to the mbti community and we certainly Do not want that. Has anyone else here consider the possibility and probability that You may be one of these other 3 types missed type as an ENTP. Like I said im fairly certain I am an entp About 95% certain, I'm just always curious about it However If I am wrong about this, I am fine with it. I may not with a 100 Percent certainty know I am an entp but I do know myself, What I want and need in life. That's good enough for me well for now anyways🤣

[@safe957]

AYO BRO THATS LITERALLY ME!

[@Lilith_Hypatia]

We do grow Up eventually lol

[@SurprisedPika666]

I agree with all of this. I lie like crazy

[@eve_______]

You are correct but why you gotta say it this way,lol. I am not gonna stoop low and say wow you were so meticulous because you are intp, you just were meticulous and correct. But still the delivery is humorously hopeless and gloomy. The testing limits of people, always wishing the best for them and not being appreciated. Emotional distance and joker mode if pushed too hard. But hey, life is life. The more challenges there are the more content it has and more exp to gain. It is like you aren’t completely sure what for you are living for but you are going after it with full passion. In a funny way life itself is one big MacGuffin, and we are here just to test the limits of this experience. But still there is one thing I individually completely disagree with. It doesn’t matter what is my true identity, and what brings me happiness and etc. After all I am just a human and anything bends to strong will. If some analytical people would treat everyone as just tools Id treat myself as well as a tool. Be it bio engineering, drugs, meditation, actual self improvement I don’t draw lines of myself. Just my will and particular passions to keep things enjoyable. Also of course knowledge to make sense of whatever the fuck I am participating in.

[@safe957]

-promiscuity: I myself really dont know how to really, explain it since i found myself "talking" to 4 girls at the same time which is not...good?, As said im really as confused as you are but a hint to it might be the loneliness, i found myself using the sexual aka wrong way to get to someone heart multiple times and that often would like give me the result that i want but even though i got that result, the way that i got it It still hurts and causes insecurities to arise if they really do like me because that is what is true. that fact of how they liked me is true and i know that fact exists and i cant do anything but stare at it as im from a more... "Strict culture" but i still found myself being a manwhore-hour but what resulted in that, in me doing these things was partly because of my over attached bpd but also... The loneliness i would have such little emotional affection or care given to me that the only way i felt i was able to recieve it was sexually and that was how i would cope and thats all thanks to tertiary Fe haha... -Figuring people out: EVERYTHING you said is true, i would find myself "testing" poeple verbally in those ways to check and see which is why ive always had such a bad kind of impression from INFJs because i never felt comfortable knowing their mask, when i want to know about someone i am DEEPLY interested in how they function, how they act, how they behave, why they behave etc etc. -Nurturing: Honestly this is something i havent even realized about myself and i never knew how to really...express it? as well and i really am grateful that you were able to say those words for me, they really are 100% true a way i found to explain it was like simple compared to the MBTI's that i did come across so heres a scenario Lets say your back hurts from the chair you have been using, its just a chair there is litearlly nothing to it so heres how i imagine it pan out with other NT's too ENTP: personally i would study the chair, know its introcesicies and fix it, not in the im going to make it in pristine condition but the kind of "im gonna add a special flare to the chair" because i would assume you LIKE this chair, i know its YOUR chair so there must be some value OR meaning, anything you have said about that chair without you or even ME realizing it i would have remembored it in that store of knowledge and its not like i need you to acknowledge it, to me im doing this thing because i care about you this much that i feel the NEED to dish it out even if it means you dont notice it... another comment id like to make, we are the semi popular kid who likes to hangout with the shy nerds, not because its an ego thing its just because i GENUINELY like this person, despite the "whatever comes and goes" mentality i found myself always keeping in contact with poeple i dont interact with often,. theres an INTJ i met through my friend group he was friends with the INFP and she introduced him to the group, i took a rather large liking to him purely because we hit off really well in the beginning and so i was kind off i dont know how to explain it... hungry? i was hungry for him not in the gay way but in the "i REALLY want you around me because i REALLY like you" and sadly this did result me in getting attached too quick sometimes ive learnt to tone it down but with this INTJ i make sure to checkup on him every few weeks, i have another INFx i checkup on, a ENTJ i know from middle school and a ESFP, and an intp too we are that one friend you hangout with every few months to catchup and never see off again and ive found it with someone poeple i want to talk to them more often again... i just... dont really know how to i guess? that fear of becoming "stinky" would, we usually are able to initiate but never go through fully since it needs to take two to tango and i dont know the rest of the song "ENTPs annoy me because you wouldnt end up in this situation if you could just keep your mouth shut", honestly when i heard that i chuckled at it because as you know.. well its true. Im not sure if this is a coping mechanism but after alot of introspection, healing and growing i realized that i dont really need people to like me anymore, i still do just not as much as i used to where instead of being afraid me spouting my verbal garbage i do it even more to see who is willing to filter through it to know who i really am deep down. The perfect example of this would be something i found called "The jesters privelage", Jester's privilege is the ability and right of a jester to talk and mock freely without being punished; for nothing he says seems to matter thats where the chained freedom comes in where because im the jester haha look at me im funny and quirky and chaotic and cool everyone doesnt take me seriously and i am able to say as much verbal garbage as i please to once they accept their invitation to the "show" we will do our best to entertain as much as possible to make sure they have AS MUCH fun as possible

[@safe957]

pt. 2 the downside is... none takes us seriously so when we do want to say something helpful, or insightful, or wise even we arent able to we feel isolated and alienated because none literally none is going to listen to us seriously, another thing about the verbal garbage its not something i personally found i cant turn off i dont know why, id always find myself accidentally intellectualizing things and i hate it whenever i do that because it adds to that isolation and feelings of alienation and misunderstanding To me people say INFJ's are the most misunderstood no... they're not, they're just unnecessarily complex from my POV not misunderstood the misunderstood ones are us mostly because we also just... dont really know how to explain it... its a loss for words depsite being able to dish out so many so quickly side note, being "hated" this is a very weird word to use because hate doesnt have the same meaning anymore because i WANT to be hated NOT feared but HATED i dont know why or how but its more like a "I am so hated that everyone is not only shit talking me but is out trying to get me" it sort of fuels me and gives me a sense of euphoria that attention where no matter what attention anyone gives me i would devour it (and funny enough this is one of the THINGS i guess that a "Broken" ENTP develops or has but this doesnt mean that all of them have it) furtheremore its definitely NOT likeable when i tried to do something good and end up getting hated, then i just feel misunderstood and hurt... ALOT so when i tried to help this INFJ and it went sideways and they went AWOL on me, i felt so hurt to a point where i didnt even feel like explaining what i was trying to do anymore and started going in the mentality of playing devil so when they meet someone like a REAL devil not a dress up they are able to avoid them in the future -lying: Im not going to lie i felt abit vulnerable when you said almost "exposed" but it is all true... I dont remember when or where someone said this but this explains, the Fe part this phrase "The best way to to tell a lie, is to add some truth to it", The bold faceness comes from inner confidence and i guess the POWER OF BLUFFING that really saved my ass more times than i can EVER imagine and an extra comment id like to add is whenever I AM caught in a lie, i have no issue admitting it, usually other ENTPs from what i have seen would feel pressured and scared but after re-assurance would have no issue admitting it almost as if a weight has been taken off their chest I had alot of bad experience with lying to people to protect them and more often than not it backfired which is why i developed the truth over comfort mentality and every time i do it trust me when i say it eats a little inside of me devils advocate: I cant really know remember any times i really played devils advocate in debates i just like being a little shit because its fun Criminals: i have hypothetically speaking in Minecraft done the various actions, stealing from villagers, making homemade weaponry, mixing homemade "dye" to see the reaction it would make, throwing "arrows" at villagers houses and "trading" with villagers enneagrams: Funny thing about the enneagrams from what i have heard (might be false please educate me if so), it is heavily based on your upbringing and a rare breed of ENTPs are the 4w3's that are like me, they are alot more artistic than the others but i dont know any other 4w3's personally to be able to give you good raw data I want to live this way(super personal experience so might be biased): YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES i cannot express to you how much I CAN AGREE i would love to contact you personally sometime to give you my personal crazy stories i have been in, and moving on another thing is I myself cannot really explain how or WHY or even WHERE this tenacity comes from but alot of it, a MASSIVE chunk of it for me comes from hatred and spite towards the world and everyone and EVERYTHING in it, and theyre not willing to manipulate and lie like the xNFJ's because it seems dishonest to ourselves not only to them, were not that organized like the xNTJ's so we carve our OWN path ACCIDENTALLY and the best way i can explain this is... You cannot create an opportunity it only shows itself to you and whatever happens after is ON YOU, if you take it, or leave it, or fuck it up, or win it... its all on YOU so get better and keep fucking improving and adapting, its like matter you cannot create nore can you destroy opportunities but rather you can CHANGE their state or wait for them to show up, we are able to take that very VERY VERYYYYY small crack in that cement wall and SOMEHOW fucking SOMEWAY find a way to hit it in the right angle, the right spot, the way form, the right time for it to cause the entire wall to come down shattering. this is mostly because of how good of an understanding of the surrounding there is, not being in touch but understanding it, imagine this as not a native Amazonian climbing a tree but a rather a scientist studying the tree itself understanding how the Amazonians are able to climb it so easily and try their best to immerse themselves IN THAT ENVIROMENT as well or even to be BETTER than the natives themselves just for it to be stored in the library in their brain to be able to take it out whenever they please which is why i say, ENTP's would be good as field officers/commanders leading the troops not in the "i am going to motivate you to die so we can move forward" but a more so "I am going to die with you because i am ONE OF YOU we work TOGETHER to hit that 5% critical chance " and try to take that information and learn from it, another thing i noticed is that it might be contributed to Fi? because this thing that i fight fore deep inside of me i feel as if its literally a part of not only my morals but who i am and what i am as a person, what i am willing to stand and DIE for, its a very interesting this that so far -loneliness: Yup, but something id like to add since ive grown is ive been able to become a little more selective to it hurts a little less where it can be worked on, if it happens with random strangers i dont really care but with my friends if they up and suddenly decided to abondon me because they find me "annoying" now that would send me to a crippling depression and something similar to that has occured but turned out to be a false flag and since then despite talking to them every day i keep them at an arms lengths emotionally and all my emotions i would take and dispense with other people. The fear of abandonment and rejection is more terrifying than the actual poeple behind it and its not like only that but its also as if im a snail in seawater that regenerates, im trying to hold my breath as long as possible while im melting away and getting hurt but still survivng somehow regenerating Misc comemnts: Its just second nature really and that large library we have is the second most useful thing that helps us survive in THOSE RISKY situations, most of the misdirection is unintentional and im not really 100% sure about the nihilism

[@safe957]

completely new point i forgot to mention, because of our verbal garbage and how annoying we are we know how to make people act out their feelings, while others like INFJs know how to make a person act ON their feelings

[@Olirap95]

Do you have any experience with ESTPs?

[@Skimmerlit]

Not enough to say anything specific. I like them.

[@yoshialts6579]

@@Skimmerlit lol, yet you say you don't understand how ESTP get the promiscuity card. U lack a lot of perspective outside of ur little bubble

[@tumblingworm737]

Man went straight to our sex life. Idk🤔😄

[@raen984]

Don’t have enough evidence to either corroborate or contradict your claims. But one must wonder: how do you know you have a big enough studied sample size of a given type for your claims to be accurate for a sufficiently large portion of that type? Obviously generalization can be necessary in order to be able to say something of substance, nobody is disputing that. But good generalizations have to hold true for most of the time. Do you, and if so, how do you determine that your claims are significantly supported?

[@Skimmerlit]

I share information I’d bet on. When I’m not confident enough to bet, I either don’t share or add disclaimers.

[@thisishowitallends9321]

Just started listening and no, dude, you didn’t meet enough ENTPs to talk about them, apparently lol

[@sash8099]

My brother must be a very rare unicorn of an Entp then. Though he can be insensitive at times but he really doesn't fuck himself over the way other Entps do. People really like him a lot and he's not promiscuous. He's quite religious and Estps make fun of him for it. Not that he cares. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIukZGR9grSnkKc Hybrid Calisthenics I don't know if you've watched this channel but he mentioned he's an Entp.

[@jasminet6469]

The you so much for this

[@alpinemind9977]

Oof. I wish i could argue with this.

[@jacques9515]

story of my life.

[@jimmygarcia7250]

Are you considered a criminal if you haven't got caught?

[@andrewferguson9499]

Not true. I don’t lie to sugar shit. As an ENTP people have a problem with me because I speak the truth regardless of feelings.

[@meiyuc22]

hahahahahaha

[@s0me0nelse]

It seems like an entp proved you wrong one time too much, or maybe cheated on you lol... Relax

[@Adam-bz3ts]

Fuck yeah for the noopept! I’m on that shit too

[@Skimmerlit]

Are there other nootropics you’d recommend for recreation or productivity?

[@Adam-bz3ts]

@@Skimmerlit nootropics I would recommend for productivity are other similar compound to noopept called the racetams. Oxiracetam for motivation, aniracetam for more of an inclination to be talkative and be good at it, pramiracetam to strip away emotional ties to work, and phenlypiracetam for the gym. For INTPs they should use oxiracetam and aniracetam followed with alpha gpc and lions mane to rapidly increase neurogensis

[@Adam-bz3ts]

@@Skimmerlit nootropics I would recommend for recreational purposes is weed

[@Skimmerlit]

I’ll look into all those besides weed. I need to be careful. Thank you.

[@Adam-bz3ts]

@@Skimmerlit was definitely joking about weed being a nootropic. It’s the exact opposite actually. But idk any recreational ones when it comes to nootropics they are all geared towards productivity. Maybe gabaergics for the increased sociability

[@Heezbungus]

Ew intp CRINGEEE