0:00 Start 4:35 Baseline Comparison 11:09 Grim DMG Comparison 12:05 Quislet DMG Comparison 15:44 Pure ST Comparison 16:40 Conclusion Summary
@stress42842 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I appreciate all the testing you do for us. I know it won't be top dmg, but if you're running a pet build, would it be better to run both quis and grim and then add mercy, or source? Or something else. like eog
@stress42842 жыл бұрын
I ask cause I mainly run world bosses weekly as a solo player (unless random people join) for source marks, and just stay alive while robot sidekick and quislet do the damage. I run quis, mercy and source. And was wondering if I should replace mercy with grim or eog to do more dmg. Thanks again for what you do
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
@@stress4284 ideally for pet damage you'd want source-mercy and quislet. If you don't have mercy grim can work as well
@stress42842 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill Thank you, I appreciate it
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
For those asking to run Strategist Card over Grim/Quislet etc that is more of a subjective answer and depends on the content you are running and the other type of dps in the group. If the NPC's you are fighting aren't staying alive long enough to get the full ticks out of a Strategist Card proc then it's not really doing you much good. Even if I pug a DPS run of say a newer raid things are dying pretty quick even with 5 pug dps in a regular run, strategist I would only be getting 1-2 ticks if I ran it. Elite content you could have it last longer and get the full ticks. This is also not mentioning the fact that you would have to have a rotation where it would have a chance to proc multiple times due to crits. Precision dps have no issue with this with Brawling and Dual Wield but not all might rotations will be capable of maximizing strategist by default.
@tamartin642 жыл бұрын
I don't care if Quislet can one-shot a final boss, so long as it makes that insufferable "Boopy-Doop!" noise, Grim is the obvious choice.
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
:D I am lucky enough to play with game sound low
@brodarrin2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother!!
@zerosaber2572 жыл бұрын
100%
@zerosaber2572 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill cant hear investigations that way. Quislet and investigations are both sound effects unfortunately.
@marhawkman3032 жыл бұрын
@@zerosaber257 heh, it annoyed me too, then I just... stopped caring about the boop noise.
@quantumv92 жыл бұрын
Howdy @ObsidianChillDCUO Great vid! Keep up the good work you do for the community.
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the kind words
@SuperTroy202 жыл бұрын
This was exactly what I was waiting for thank u!
@icedcuo12292 жыл бұрын
Ay okay dude that's what I'm talking about. I was waiting for this. Thanks man hope all is well
@CaptRetro12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! This is super helpful and much appreciated.
@TheEgoShooterer2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for 5 Quislets screaming in my ear while playing.
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember the last time I played with game sound :P
@comiczone30342 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@blacksquaregamingpc2 жыл бұрын
I use both with Source Shard. Munitions might paired with this and I'm usually top damage 98-99% of the time. 😁
@pwater25262 жыл бұрын
I can can out dps u with sorcery
@jefersonluiz33562 жыл бұрын
I'm using both with might munitions too. But instead of source shard i'm running transformation card cause u lose lots of crits without it.
@d4ngerouslyours2 жыл бұрын
@Jakkojin cuz you not read?? “i use both with source shard”
@CiscoflexxАй бұрын
How much damage does. Refractle beam do
@tonytonsjr4 ай бұрын
i know im kinda late in here but what if grim + robot sidekick (since power reg from pets buff from grim) vs quislet with/wo PI?
@bigga2020able2 жыл бұрын
So I run strat, trans and solar for ST and I use neo venom mostly on st so should I replace one of them with quislet so I get the damage from using the super charge
@ImDenjiiiiiiii Жыл бұрын
My grimonium verum pet doesnt spawn when i fight
@pablovelli4300Ай бұрын
Same
@shawnanderson30622 жыл бұрын
Very appreciated as always.
@MrSraluch2 жыл бұрын
even as prec dps i prefer quislet becouse of sc recovery .
@leatherDarkhorse7 ай бұрын
Quislet vs solar amplifier?
@RixhNdangrous11 ай бұрын
For battle heal should I go fang clarion and grim or quiz?
@bryantbrown47602 жыл бұрын
Did you test with robot sidekick since grim reduce power cost? Just curious if that would make a difference in dmg overtime
@sethbollins85682 жыл бұрын
Im rage prec n i run trans, strat, eog. Would quislet or grim be better than eog?
@MRALOHA8O82 жыл бұрын
Needed this since I just dps with might with everyone lol, question thou I’m fire would I still rock both cards and solar since I have heat or do I take strat out for qui?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
depends on whether the things you kill last long enough to get a full strat card proc tick off. If you are only getting 1 or 2 strat card procs before they are dead not much point then
@furkeys1142 жыл бұрын
@ObsidianChillDCUO Try brawling + martial arts WM clip into Spontaneous combustion, you pretty much get an instant strat proc on the entire pack/target if ST - and it HURTS with trans card + batman who laughs ally (you get around 50% crit chance baseline with frigor card proced). you normally get 2-3 procs depending on the target. It's a lot, specially vs big packs and bosses. You can always jump cancel Heat Vision's animation time before the AoE explosion to save time (Always jump at the 4th tick, because HV only hits 4 times and the AoE always goes out right after the casting duration (So if you jump right after the last tick the AoE will go out even if you're not in the casting animation anymore - and you won't miss HV full damage, because it only hits 4 times = 4 ticks).
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
@@furkeys114 it certainly does, I just meant if you go into a reg raid with 4 other dps doing the same thing the adds are going to melt before strat even gets a tick off with all the EoG procs that will come after 6s
@Raijin_Thunder_God2 жыл бұрын
Wait could you use both of them at the same time?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
you can yes
@Raijin_Thunder_God2 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill omg nice
@DVS224952 жыл бұрын
Can both pets be active at the same time?
@ericridgeway7682 жыл бұрын
On my munitions toon might dps chain gun in both AoE and ST loadouts should I put grim in to quislet? Grim is at 125
@metalrex2 жыл бұрын
Does Quislet work with Neo Venom boost supercharge? Or it has to be those attacking supercharges only?
@maikiomi2 жыл бұрын
So what’s better for gadgets prec?
@DaGunFatha2 жыл бұрын
I’m Elec prec. Does EoG, Quis and transformation card work well together
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
for precision you would want strategist more than quis
@mallwilliams86952 жыл бұрын
What would grim, quis and trans look like?
@OCFreeze2 жыл бұрын
Great article as always! => Question : Does Water's Dehydrate trigger Quislet Refractor Beam as SC ? :) Edit: I expect NO, but still... need to know :)
@hank29482 жыл бұрын
Hey man, it doesn't right? I have no clue why after hours of testing I am getting better numbers with grim than with quislet for multi taget with water. And obv you dont use quislet for ST, unless he was actually triggered by dehydrate which I am fairly certain it doesn't so it becomes a waste of space
@natexkzm2 жыл бұрын
What's the recommended Water DPS artifacts?
@biggtone942 жыл бұрын
Did you test out the Quislet with singularity in your loadout? If so how did it turn out in numbers against the grim?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
Quislet already beat grim with pi in this test
@studydoc2 жыл бұрын
Great vids! For prec DPS, is strategist card better than grim in overall damage?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
for prec yes you always want strategist
@studydoc2 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill thank you!
@makaveli65622 жыл бұрын
What is prec?
@marhawkman3032 жыл бұрын
@@makaveli6562 Precision, IE weapon-based damage.
@ajprop96272 жыл бұрын
What about earth running both…because with pets and aqua man innate ability . I.e. run grim, god, and quiz? Also didn’t they nerf eye
@Shadow4972 жыл бұрын
A pet build youd still use the pet artifacts because it's a pet build.
@ajprop96272 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow497 so is that a yes to running both? With source shard? Take out gemini? Thanks
@Shadow4972 жыл бұрын
@@ajprop9627 yes pet build is those 3 arts queslet, grim and source shared. That's a full pet build. If you are running a sc build you can run EOG scrap or whatever youd like. But as a pure pet build your trying to get the most damage out of your pets.
@imperious_slime41742 жыл бұрын
I’m might sorcery and I run source shard at 160,strat 200 and grim 160 is it worth taking off strat and adding quislet for increased damage
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
if you are a pet based dps quislet will help alot because you can got the godwave procs on the refractor beam attacks it does which will be much higher than grims standard dmg, and with source shard not being 200 you wouldn't get the extra pet so you may want to consider quislet and your trinket pet rather than grim+quislet only
@imperious_slime41742 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill I see,thank you.
@sebastianthegamingking86192 жыл бұрын
Why not use both
@budgiearchives2378 Жыл бұрын
So is Grim good for might build?
@ObsidianChill Жыл бұрын
grim isn't good for any build
@demonocusmetalocus35582 жыл бұрын
i'll stay with grim since i have it at 200 and i'm precision
@milkyblub55802 жыл бұрын
So for ice might would quislet be better than strat? I run trans and strat but quislet seems pretty damn good
@e_hs2 жыл бұрын
Depends on your rotation I would say, if you got a lot of channelling which might affect the punctuality of quizlet's mega blast, which can affect the damage a bit. But overall I think quizlet, which I personally use, is better. Using quizlet offer me a few more blizzard to spam
@TheRoreaga2 жыл бұрын
Quislet procs mega blast during superpowers too, not just when you hit them.. So as long as you have a steady stream of powers it will always proc mega blast every 5 seconds. I have tested it. So in combat with quislet out, it procs off superpowers used (not superpowers hitting) and also procs in the middle of superpowers.
@milkyblub55802 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoreaga gotcha. Thanks but quick question tho ya said superpowers used. Does it count shields as well?
@TheRoreaga2 жыл бұрын
@@milkyblub5580 Not sure. I think it counts, but would have to test to know for certain.
@tyreesingleton76212 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend for an atomic might setup. I currently use quizlet with trans and strat for my aoe might setup
@tyreesingleton76212 жыл бұрын
Also will mega blast proc is the tap combos of atomic, not the first hit but tap melee or tap range which continues the combo?
@dmullins301TWM2 жыл бұрын
Does the damage penalty from the strategist card apply to pet damage?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
no, pet damage is only based on your CR unless its something like Aquaman ally or Source Shard artifact that buffs separately
@Icarus_262 жыл бұрын
For grim/quislet should I put sp in prec? I read somewhere that pets count as prec dmg and not might
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
Pets only count as prec damage to the compu hud artifact. Pet damage is only impacted by cr
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill Obsidian what 3 artifacts would you run for a pet build, I’m asking because i’ve had a lot of negative things about the M.E.R.C.Y artifact being bugged, i hope you can test it soon.
@johnharris86962 жыл бұрын
Can u use both at the same time
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
you can yes
@FadedKilla2 жыл бұрын
So for Hardlight Grim or Quisslet? Cause grim adds our PI in our AOE loadout.
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
Daze is a common pi for other powers to set up but constructs won't proc mega blast but I still feel with the whips/LW/dervish you would still be hitting a regular power every 5 seconds
@e_hs2 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill what would you recommend for substitution of strat for HL? Coz feels like it's quite situational these days and unless you are using brawling>shuriken storm, there is often some damage loss
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
@@e_hs quislet is a good choice as well
@Gray_xo2 жыл бұрын
Interesting because I use quislet as gadgets prec and do the same dmg with my grim. Sometimes even more.
@answering2482 жыл бұрын
Yeah gadgets prec is the only prec power that can receive full benefit of quislet.
@TheRoreaga2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's nonsense that it wouldn't work for any prec. It will proc from any superpower in combat, even if that's a superpower that is used as a clip and doesn't hit the target.
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
yo @@answering248 you like Answering questions?
@answering2482 жыл бұрын
@@pastoryoda2789 Yes.
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
@@answering248 i knew it
@Kuya.Marcito2 жыл бұрын
Would strat, trans and quizlet be the ideal artifacts for a fire dps with neo venom boost in its rotation?
@a.desaixi20902 жыл бұрын
Strat and trans are ideal most of the time, and then it’s up to you if you want to run grim or quis otherwise
@kinglyatticus2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@drewboltgamer10592 жыл бұрын
So, on precision, I prefer Quizlet because I can go melee range and hit enemies with Whirling Dervish, which procs Mega Blast. If melee range is not practical, then Grim would be preferred. However, if a power set possesses a singular power that does a lot of damage and can be clipped appropriately, such as with Mini Nuke on Munitions or any power clipped with Suppressor Turret on Gadgets, Quizlet is extremely viable over Grim.
@TheRoreaga2 жыл бұрын
Actually, you don't need to be melee for mega blast to proc... It doesn't proc from superpower damage, it procs from just using a superpower... So in the case of people using any power to clip with prec (I.e. Whirling dirvish with brawling - 3sec cooldown), they would proc mega blast pretty much as often as a might dps. If you don't believe me, go to sparring target and summon quislet to attack, then stand back and just do a whirling dirvish from a distance, it will instantly proc meg blast.
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoreaga true with how fast brawling is it can be completely viable.
@maikiomi2 жыл бұрын
@@TheRoreaga @obsidianChillDCUO is that technically the same thing with gadgets prec single target? With how much your clipping tpull-supturret. & dervish?
@TheRoreaga2 жыл бұрын
@@maikiomi I would think so. As long as you're doing some sort of power clip at least every 5s with any prec, then you should be getting the mega blast proc from quislet each time (and 1% supercharge regen every 5s, if the quislet is at 200).
@Andrito30002 жыл бұрын
What Arti combo would be better for Elec/Rage melee dps: Scrap vs Quinslet vs EoG with Trans+Strat or 2xSC arts with Trans?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
Strat is a waste for both those powers on melee, EoG is mandatory
@jeffsosexy992 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill sup what 3 arts would you use for rage melee and for rage st
@jeffsosexy992 жыл бұрын
@Jakkojin ok thanks
@snail84402 жыл бұрын
What’s the best weapon for damage & all
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
brawling for aoe and dual wield for single target
@marhawkman3032 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill This is one of those things I'm curious about.... what is the actual difference and how much difference is there?
@insanekrieg8422 жыл бұрын
Damage-wise, What do you think about grim, quislet, and solar amplifier as my 3 artifacts? (Might dps) is that totally fine or is it just way better if i switch solar amplifier to source shard. I just play for fun but id love to hear your opinion on which is better.
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
if you aren't using heat vision in your rotation then solar isn't doing much for you, just stats. You could certainly run source shard but that will completely change your playstyle so you may not find that "fun" enough, with having to learn and use the godwave proc at the right times etc
@insanekrieg8422 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill Thank you! i love heat vision so im definitely keeping it in my loadout. Love the style used in this video btw.
@Shadow4972 жыл бұрын
I thought PIs didn't stack. You had yo set up your own even if you have others using the same
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
That was in the past, now pi just applies to npcs for 12 seconds. So gadgets troll can set up for gadgets dps etc.
@Shadow4972 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill oh okay that's helpful thanks
@Bowshier2 жыл бұрын
So my fireball barrage load out with grim scrap and trans, I think I’m gonna swap out grim with quinslet! I’ll be popping a super charge every 30 seconds for almost the entire raids lol, which I almost do already without quinslet! Nice
@cuteboimd82 Жыл бұрын
Qizlet vs strat
@Jayvawn2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, does the strat card procs count towards EoG dmg or no?
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
the strat card procs do not count towards EoG
@uselessyoutube80932 жыл бұрын
Use the eye arts then spam endless with pet damge is great
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
@Jakkojin eye of gemini
@samuelgoncalves95882 жыл бұрын
By the time we will see a dc universe for mobile?
@Shadow4972 жыл бұрын
Never
@dinkydotzero2 жыл бұрын
IS the pippers flute broken? I cant get mine to work at all
@ObsidianChill2 жыл бұрын
flute is working for me, what supercharge are you trying to proc it on?
@oman42292 жыл бұрын
It doesn't proc 100% of the time until 200. Thats how Charon explained it on the forums
@adaptiveandroid26852 жыл бұрын
@@oman4229 so its a guarnteed proc at 200? Do you have link to forum post by any chance?
@dinkydotzero2 жыл бұрын
@@ObsidianChill Fires Fireball barrage is what I was using it and its at 180 but it never hits for me at all
@ΑντωνηςΖαχαριουδακης-β1ι2 жыл бұрын
Can you use both or is unnecessary to do so?
@armandoayala4462 жыл бұрын
If u have a pet build than yes
@DangerouslyActive2 жыл бұрын
here 4 support.
@kinglyatticus2 жыл бұрын
FACE REVEAL AT 25K SUBS
@markdias56362 жыл бұрын
Quizlet is better? Time and effort put into Grim…..wasted??? Wtf? This game man. Really?
@e_hs2 жыл бұрын
Man, that's what they do. Change the meta from time to time so people keep spending money. Now with ally system this will be even more serious.
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
@@e_hs yeah this game is just a money grab they should reward us with an artifact swap for free every 3 months
@e_hs2 жыл бұрын
@@pastoryoda2789 lmao that's not my point. The problem isn't the fact that we have to take months to level an artifact (assuming that one doesn't pay at all), coz this is an mmorpg, that's what games like these do. The problem is that now they add new element to the game only by shifting the meta with new artifacts and expect people to invest and follow. Allies is basically just a weaker version of artifacts, new episodes are somewhat similar, or got some reskined open world. I get it they gotta earn money, but I just feel like now they are just doing everything according to a formula and not worth the effort anymore :)
@pastoryoda27892 жыл бұрын
@@e_hs yeah, I’m just glad allies are 100% during breakthrough