Honestly,who cares? You don’t buy a “muscle” car because it’s an investment. Enjoy it.
@edx21x Жыл бұрын
Correct . Almost any car is a bad investment and should not be purchased as such
@lmjames33 Жыл бұрын
Facts! I'll keep mine about 2 years and move on
@Papolucho702 Жыл бұрын
Only stupid people think it’s an investment. That’s the premise they use to make this horrible decision.
@fulcrumsee5968 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, buy it to rag the ever living dogshit out of it. Why wait until 2060 to pull it out of the garage
@Historicallybuilt Жыл бұрын
Shittt my Mopar buddy Bought #77 out of 300 Challenger Black Ghost for 110K & sold it with less than 100 miles for 190K in 6 months.
@ramirov8625 Жыл бұрын
You are definitely an honest man! I'm a Mustang owner, got it brand new back in 08. Still, for me, the best car ever. I already put in 225k miles in my Mustang. When I bought mine, I knew I was going to keep it, but I didn't think I would still own it now. 😂 market is too crazy to buy anything right now. Thank you for your advice!!
@adonisbrooks2794 Жыл бұрын
Thee underrated 4.6 mustang gt. You take care them , they will our
@ardelld8465 Жыл бұрын
I did not buy my Hellcat for anyone but me! I never thought it would be an investment. You are so right about the cost. Insurance is out of sight. I drive and Enjoy it everytime. I am not rich at all. I think you got the Hellcat right. Thank you for a great video OC.
@greenrush4313 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2021 scat pack for 125 k. The dealer told me its a collector. It only has 56k miles on it
@ardelld8465 Жыл бұрын
@@greenrush4313 what makes it a collector?
@Glockzilluh Жыл бұрын
Get collectors car insurance through hagerty or Grundy and thank me later
@frankmmiii Жыл бұрын
I kinda bought mine for an investment😉or that's my story and I'm sticking to it. But all in all my 2021 Widebody 392 is a Blast to drive. I don't need 797 or 807 horses to satisfy my need for speed and if I do, I'll do some modifications to bump the horses. But importantly, I didn't overpay for my R/T Scat Pack T/A Challenger. Here's my video link. It is not winning any Academy Awards. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3iVYoqrm9qpeKcsi=eYWYw7MoSknuGzQy
@thatboylije7892 Жыл бұрын
@@greenrush4313you got scammed
@Mrdiver001 Жыл бұрын
Brad you’re 100% correct!! My 2023 jailbreak hellcat widebody loaded, when it was delivered I turned it down, & and the dealer said they had a buyer.. well guess what I drove by the dealership yesterday and still sitting there almost 2 months later… and they still have it selling at MSRP… these cars will keep going down in value!
@LuckyCharms777 Жыл бұрын
Why did you turn it down at MSRP? Did you suddenly stop liking the car?
@MoparCrazy803 Жыл бұрын
Dude 12 days ago you said you took delivery of a swinger scat pack. Which one is it?
@marquis3733 Жыл бұрын
@@MoparCrazy803 😂 he had to correct his lie, the jailbreak hellcat sounds better
@Clutch_Kick187 Жыл бұрын
@@MoparCrazy803 Copy'd his post from 6 REASONS DODGE DEALERS CAN'T SELL HELLCATS OR SCAT PACKS.. @Mrdiver001 12 days ago Great vid Brad! Keep them coming! Just bought a 2023 Swinger WB shaker 2 days ago. 200 miles on it 59k. Where did you get your hood pins installed? I’m San Diego.. Thx! What a joker this guy.. Must make him feel better to lie to youtube creators and users in the comment section.??
@Clutch_Kick187 Жыл бұрын
Why you gotta lie to everyone.. your coment from a couple weeks ago on 6 REASONS DODGE DEALERS CAN'T SELL HELLCATS OR SCAT PACKS.. @Mrdiver001 12 days ago Great vid Brad! Keep them coming! Just bought a 2023 Swinger WB shaker 2 days ago. 200 miles on it 59k. Where did you get your hood pins installed? I’m San Diego.. Thx! "Why you always LYING".. Get outta your moms basement and quit lying.. you prob drive a 2015 SXT stanking of weed and dents all over it, worth about $3500 bucks..
@francinefore7421 Жыл бұрын
I have an 08 srt8 challenger hemi orange and 1 of 6400 made. 6.1 Hemi. 425 HP. 8400 miles on her. Always garaged. Never saw rain or snow. The only difference between mine and new ones are the engines, mine has cd player,different shift handle, my tach is on the righ mph on the left. I saw one exactly like mine with 1000 miles on Mecum and it sold for $63,000.
@comicrandomness3289 Жыл бұрын
I went to a house for a job and the owner had a rare convertible dodge Challenger from the 70s. Super beautiful even in the picture i took. I asked if he was thinking about selling it but he said he just bought a new engine for it.
@pureautodiag Жыл бұрын
Hey, adjusted for inflation that car was sold for the exact amount of money that was bought back in 2008. Remember, your money loses value every day as well, not just the car.
@richardweyland116 Жыл бұрын
I know a guy who has a 2014 Camaro trailer queen he takes to shows, doesn't drive it much and brags about how it's a 1 of 1...because he ordered it that way. The "one of" designation is pretty much unimportant with a new car.
@oldschoolhiphop2275 Жыл бұрын
I'm about to surrender a 392 back to the dealer can't afford it anymore.
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
@@richardweyland116 I get a kick out of people who brag about their 1-of-1 unique car...that is unique only because they ordered the leather covered blinker stalk or whatever other stupid option nobody else got, or because they chose some hideous combination of paint and stripes and floor mat stitching colors. Like, my Exige is 1-of-1, but only because I'm the only one who has done the exact combination of mods that I have done to it. It doesn't make it special. I don't go around acting better than everybody else because, "Yeah, I'm the only one that has ripped out the firewall sound deadening insulation AND installed a certain brand exhaust AND screwed in the front tow hook."
@avilaa64 Жыл бұрын
OC I was able to purchase the special edition super bee widebody for below msrp, surprisingly. But I 100% agree with you I’m not going to let it sit and wait for its value to go up. These cars are meant to be driven the way they are built for
@chefboyardee6728 Жыл бұрын
What was the discount you got?
@cbrturbo72 Жыл бұрын
My buddy bought a Scat Pack shaker for 5k below msrp. He regrets it and wants to sell it. Unfortunately, he would STILL lose almost 20k in just a couple of months, with only 1700 miles on it.
@israelg6750 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 scat pack challenger … I have 18 more months until I pay it off …. My dumb self wants to get a hellcat lol
@israelg6750 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelterrito4113 I’m in college still living with parents to finish med school , I could afford it living with my parents but it will be a dumb financial choice , young and dumb as they say
@fastlyf98 Жыл бұрын
No way did it lose 20 gs with 1700 miles
@cbrturbo72 Жыл бұрын
@@fastlyf98 According to Dodge's website, there are currently 8,091 2023 Scat Packs on dealer lots and 1,931 in transit. There are also a bunch of unsold 2022's, but Dodge won't let you search for those anymore. Brad is completely correct, the prices have crashed, and continue to freefall.
@BrianWaller-qe7gr Жыл бұрын
Buyers remorse is a very costly mistake
@poker_18rs92 Жыл бұрын
There are tons of vehicles tucked-away in garages with no miles. I recently saw a post on IG of a 1996 Bronco Eddie Bauer with only 396 original miles. It’s incredible how people buy these cars & they just sit.
@frankwolfrum6301 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2023 Jail Break Challenger for 5,000 off MSRP. All the wide body models are marked up 10,000 they have the wider tires but they weigh more narrow bodies have the same horse power. I like having the Last Call badge and the extra 10 horse power that's why I did it to have something slightly out of the ordinary. It is my daily when it is nice out and I will take it to the track four or five times a year it puts a big smile on my face that's why I bought it.
@olavcramer12608 ай бұрын
Love your shout out to your old man and the respect for his sacrifices for his family! Totally awesome! Nice cold had analysis. Truth is just fine!
@BaBaBooeyWRLD8 ай бұрын
Yesssir
@392Quill Жыл бұрын
He spent 140k with a 11% interest , he should’ve traveled for MSRP
@sab0024 Жыл бұрын
😱 11% interest rate.. geez
@eddiegolden9139 Жыл бұрын
I bought my pontiac firebird trans am back in 2004, used for $16k drove the shit out of it. Still have it with 180 thousand miles. I enjoyed that car for 20 years best $16k ever spent
@jgboys1 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 2022 WideBody Challenger at MSRP back on Memorial Day 2022 and as long as it doesn’t get stolen or totaled, I planning on keeping it until the day I die.
@markwhitton8230 Жыл бұрын
This is what happened in the 70s when gas prices exploded and a recession entered. There were Challengers, Chargers, Mustangs, Camaros, Roadrunners everywhere, and cheap. In 77, I bought a GTX for $700. I owned many Mustangs, including a 67 GTA convertible and a 66 289 fastback hypo for under a $1000. Regular Mustangs were $500. People were buying used VW beetles and 240 Zs
@artillerybuff2000 Жыл бұрын
OC is right on! I purchased two Challenger 1320's, one in 2021 and one in 2022, one to use and one to sell down the road. Got them both under MSRP and with 0.00% financing. This year I decided to sell the '21 and got 100% what I paid for it MINUS 24 months of insurance payments. So yeah, I lost money. I do believe I could have made money on it if I would have waited a few more years, especially since it was parked/stored with zero miles, HOWEVER, I would likely make more by buying precious metals or with some other investments.
@Groux504 Жыл бұрын
With the rate of inflation in the us last year@8.20% and the long term @3.28 if you keep 100k in the sock drawer it will depreciate to $67200 in 10 years. If you take that route Seems about the same depreciation as the car
@richardweyland116 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for hitting the nail on the head and putting this investment in a new car idea to rest. I almost did it because everyone was talking about how they aren't going to make them any more, blah, blah, blah. I'm glad I didn't. You're absolutely right, excellent point, it took 50yrs to make that 1970 muscle car worth more money. You're also right about the new Challengers, DRIVE it.
@terryturner259 Жыл бұрын
Lol well said bro I straight be laughing when people say a car is an investment smh I walked away from a car dealership when the sales guy said that bull crap
@matthewsgaming5333 Жыл бұрын
This was actually really good. I learned a few things. Nice !
@timothybrickley4025 Жыл бұрын
OCM your awesome 🙌🏾! Some folks are just hard-headed
@crankychris2 Жыл бұрын
Cars, boats, RV's etc. depreciate and should never be considered as investments.
@geph13Ай бұрын
😂
@geph13Ай бұрын
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@geph13Ай бұрын
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@HighFrequencyRadio Жыл бұрын
After watching this video im driving my Hellcat Redeye Jailbreak from Dallas to Vegas this weekend.
@charlesstepinski9327 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your efforts behind the scenes and time it takes to make these great videos. Your a smart man that I hope everyone sees your channel as it pertains to these cars. The last video I watched twice so it 'sank into my head'
@greenrush4313 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2021 scat pack for 125 k. The dealer told me its a collector. It only has 56k miles on it
@42ambrocio Жыл бұрын
Got mine with gap and like 2k down just bc of this lmao. If it deprecates that bad, I’ll go get gas in a shady part of town 😭
@seneccalear Жыл бұрын
I enjoy my ‘22 R/T Challenger, got for 3K under sticker and negotiated down the add-ons.
@oldmusclecars9419 Жыл бұрын
So I ask again, did I do ok buying my 2021 Super Stock at sticker and financing 72k for 72 months at 0% interest?
@Papolucho702 Жыл бұрын
When the madness on new and used cars was starting to climb? Yep! Imagine the same car at 0% at todays price! Inflation kicked in hard.
@shanes1112 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video, OC. Always wanted a Challenger since they came out. I recently bought a Billet with black stripes, SRT392 manual. It has 19k miles. Bought from another old guy like me. Middle aged AF vet, now school teacher. It was a great, fair price. I didnt buy it as an investment so I enjoy it very much. I only drive it 4-6 times a month but I enjoy it and don’t worry about it appreciating. I don’t expect it to so it’s a lot of fun to own.
@JuanGonzalez-fq4kq Жыл бұрын
I like a RT it gets me everywhere and I am glad that I can drive one everyday it turns head and I always wanted one.
@mad_man_savage452 Жыл бұрын
No rt is turning heads unless it’s modded out
@challengerrtchick2514 Жыл бұрын
Same! I'm extremely happy and satisfied with my RT.
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
They do turn my head, but only because I want to see if the guy is interested in getting his lunch handed to him at the next stoplight.
@king_siz3 Жыл бұрын
Great info as usual
@RobertJacksonSr-mt9qq Жыл бұрын
It will be a yard ornament 😂😂😂
@PC_TV_73 Жыл бұрын
I bought my Durango hellcat for my 50th birthday not as an investment but as a fun toy. I have real investments for that purpose and I do think the Durango hellcat is probably the one that will hold onto the value the most just because of the few years that it was made, well besides the demon anyway but at least the Durango you could actually use it every day unlike the demon
@vipermuscle440 Жыл бұрын
💯 I agree. DDHC are the best Hellcat.
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
"It's dumb to think these vehicles will hold value...except for the one I got...THIS one will hold value."
@tomfletcher3817 Жыл бұрын
I received a random email this morning from KBB regarding the value of my 2020 1320. I paid 45 and change out the door new from dodge dealer (one month before the chip shortage), KBB with no regard for limited production of that model year says 46 and change for my 2020 1320 right now. Your theory may apply to some standard hellcats, scats, and overpriced last call models but not all.
@sterlingjones4108 Жыл бұрын
People have to understand you buy cars for: • Practicality/Family/Necessity/A to B • Love/Fun/Collection/Driving Them • NOT INVESTMENTS. Even if it appreciates there are still better investments where that money could have gone.
@jefffreyjefferson9455 Жыл бұрын
I started with a 2015 SRT 8 challenger. It was a manual and fast as hell. I loved it but it wasn't a hellcat. I bought a 2018 hellcat widebody. One of 135 in Torred. I drive it every day despite high maintenance, high gas prices (I was paying $6.00 a gallon in Vegas at one point) and the risk of getting it stolen. Technically, it's a rare car but why should I put it away for someone else to enjoy down the road. My point is enjoy it now while you can. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?
@cliffwaits30329 ай бұрын
That is the right attitude. Enjoy what you want, while you can. Treating your car as a garage Queen is like saving your wife for the next guy...
@calgaryramblerreloaded Жыл бұрын
Stellantis deserves some real fiscal humble pie.
@tommc3622 Жыл бұрын
I bought a '21 Challenger Scat base 6mt no options for $41k OTD in Oct. 21. Traded it in 6/22 for $46.5k + $7000 out of pocket on a '22 WB 6mt order, optioned exactly the way I wanted it, for $500 over invoice. (I am a dealership employee, though just a lowly parts schlub.) ... That's $48k for a '22 WBSP Challenger new. I have no plans to ever sell it, but as well bought as it was, it has no hope of being an investment. Drive them. Enjoy them.
@Bullioncolin Жыл бұрын
Well, I picked up a 21 RT plus with 40k miles on it for 25k , 1 owner now accidents and locally owned here in Florida, and for the money I couldn’t have been happier and I don’t miss the 100 hp difference in the scat pack because it’s extremely affordable, lower insurance and I got it at 6.4% in todays market. I’m doing just fine and I agree, these cars are not investments. I already put 3k miles on this car in a month and I’m gonna drive it into the ground.
@SirGalahadThePure Жыл бұрын
I ordered my '21 Charger Hellcat at sticker for 0% financing right before the economy went into the dumpster. Never bought it as an investment as it is my daily driver and I love every time I get to drive it. When the economy seemed to be getting worse, I took it to Carmax just to see what they would give me. They offered me 65k when I had less than 10k miles on it. Needless to say, I laughed all the way out of the dealership and I'm still enjoying it today. I thought that maybe IF they actually do discontinue the Hellcat that the value would go up, then I would have the option to sell it for profit if I chose to. Still, seeing as I bought it to drive, it doesn't matter much to me.
@carloschavez714 Жыл бұрын
Good video idk why some other KZbinrs swear up and down it’s an investment and will be worth a lot of money. You keep it 💯 with facts and people will still argue with you that it’s not true. Enjoy your Charger or Challenger drive it!
@HansBelphegor Жыл бұрын
3:20 my 23 392 charger cost me like 5k including towing cost, clean titled too
@HHTV60 Жыл бұрын
Well, I checked my Chrysler dealer website in Calgary again, and what do you know -- the 2022 regular body Hellcat I traded in in June is still listed in their "pre-owned inventory". They cannot sell it!!! First they priced it at CAD$130K ;) then the price dropped to CAD$107K, then CAD$99K, and now it's sitting at CAD$96K (!). They had this car (3,000 KM or 2,000 miles on the Odo) since June '23 and nobody wants it!!!
@ocmotivator Жыл бұрын
Sounds like they fell for their own hype! The reckoning is here for these dealerships.
@FitBetic Жыл бұрын
@@ocmotivatorI follow ur advice and I purchased an RT for $8500 under MSRP. I stood firm on what I was willing to pay and I received every incentive available. I was willing to walk out several times and they wanted my business. I was hit with the last call speech just like everyone else. I explain that Dodge had the largest inventory on hand and I was able to back them into a corner. I purchased my TorRed RT plus with the works. The only thing my RT is missing is the sunroof which wasn’t a must have for me. I’d like to thank you for all of your advice and I am now enjoying my 2023 “Last Call” RT. Continue to bless everyone with ur knowledge and keep the content coming
@five7phew550 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a 13 Daytona R/T. Always wanted a charger, can’t see myself paying over 500 a month for my note and insurance when I only make 55 a year. I like being able to make additional payments, see too many people with the new ones that can’t even make their ONLY payment
@CoachParks9 Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the Scat Pack is the best move financially. They have the power also! No car is a better investment than a property! No one is going to give you what you paid for. Plus it’s tons of these cars around and will be easy to get in the future!
@StockCarGuy Жыл бұрын
@@DeepDishPizzait’ll go right back to those prices, these cars aren’t touching 6 figures ever unless crazy inflation takes place which wouldn’t matter cause that 100k will be like the 40-50k.
@deesmith800 Жыл бұрын
@@DeepDishPizzaYep! Got my 2020 scatpack WB for $40k msrp and no markup.
@deesmith800 Жыл бұрын
@@DeepDishPizza You’re correct but like I said, I got mines for $40k.
@MoparCrazy803 Жыл бұрын
@@deesmith800Why did you say 40k msrp if thats not msrp?
@CoachParks9 Жыл бұрын
@@DeepDishPizza yea but remember everything is much higher now. Prices changed
@heavenst.murgatroyd31289 ай бұрын
I currently have a Redeye Widebody being shipped from Phoenix to Fairbanks, Alaska. Window sticker in '19 was $94K, bank just valued it at $74K, and I got it for $60K, mostly because I feel the auto broker didn't have it advertised very well, and I jumped on it the day they listed it. I'm going to drive it whenever I can (which I realize won't be often), and if it eventually goes the way of the '70 Hemi 'Cuda, then so be it. If it doesn't, I still get to say I have a Go Mango Satin Black SRT Challenger Hellcat Redeye Widebody. I'm "investing" in Smiles Per Gallon. 😉
@Ms_Introvert_4_Life Жыл бұрын
When I'm able to purchase a V8, trust and believe, I'm driving the hell out it. It will NOT be sitting somewhere rusting away. I'm going to enjoy the power!! I currently have the V6 and will check the dealerships next summer to see what the scat prices are looking like.
@DavidVillaTorre Жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm happy with my v6. I'll probably tune it a bit and drive it for the next 6-8 years. I don't really care if it devalues, it's a car - that's what they do.
@BrkDownMedia10 ай бұрын
Very valid points were. I have a video explaining how dealer markups ruin good cars and you’re exactly right. The hype around any muscle car is always the Achilles heel. Great explanation!
@Gen3HemiBuilder1964 Жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoy mine, my 70 hemi super bird was $3100 plus options, now it’s worth 250,000. Seems like a decent amount of growth to me, for a car anyway. 69 Chrysler 300 440 magnum Cost 12k to restore myself. Sold for 60k Changing gears, gmc cyclone 28k new. Go for 90-100 now Buick gnx, 28k new. 100k now. So on and so forth. Maybe not an upfront investment on the numbered cars, sure. Enjoy it and love. Maturity won’t be seen for another 20 years more than likely…. But it will happen. Se, sxt, RT, some scat packs. Yeah maybe not so much. But numbered hellcats, demons, and almost anything widebody will eventually go up.
@MoparCrazy803 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody knows what their talking about in the comments. Its like nobody understands how this car thing works. Its a bunch of people that love these cars but know absolutely nothing about cars and how value works.
@pmscalisi Жыл бұрын
How many Superbirds were made?
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
The GNX makes a good example for an analysis. So they're worth roughly 3.5x what they stickered for. Thirty-five years later, it's made a profit of $72k. But over that thirty-five years, inflation has eaten up $47k of that $72k, leaving $27k of actual profit today. And how much of that $27k has been eaten up by maintenance costs, storage costs, insurance costs, etc.? Let's be generous and say only $7k, leaving you with $20K of real world profit after thirty-five years on the original $28k investment. That works out to be about a 2.5% average annual return. If my 401k made that little, I'd be majorly pissed off. And the values have really risen in the last decade. If you did this analysis ten years ago, when they were 25 years old, you wouldn't have even beaten inflation.
@davealmer3803 Жыл бұрын
There are too many "Special Additions" and after all They re just a Dodge and unless a Charger from the 60's not a chance. If you already paid over MSRP now to get one did anyone really think these things are going to appreciate.
@jasonknight5863 Жыл бұрын
Exactly these style Challenger’s are on every street corner all over the U.S. Just way too many to be worth anything ever. Same thing with Corvettes. Mass produced American Cars. You have a rare Ferrari or Lamborghini that’s a very different story.
@drdetroitwheels Жыл бұрын
If you see the new Banshee pictures at the factory it has a it has a transmission tunnel and enough and space to put an internal combustion engine just look at the spice photos from the factory
@ocmotivator Жыл бұрын
We’ve known for a year now that they were going to put the hurricane in-line 6 into that car. Not a surprise.
@drdetroitwheels Жыл бұрын
@@ocmotivator yeah I've been saying that for the whole year too that's why that's why I'm letting you know because most people didn't think it's just they thought it was just going to be an Eevee
@BaBaBooeyWRLD8 ай бұрын
I know those wheels are called “Gold School” but the I’ve seen that same wheel in black/gloss black (prefer gloss black) and I gotta say its the sweetest wheel Mopar offers IMO. It has that extra lip to give em this super deep look and I love it. Anyway, thanks brotha.
@lpfeffer994 ай бұрын
I watch this channel not because OC makes any sense. It's because he makes absolutely no sense. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, but jeezus.... circular, contradicting, simply wrong, etc. Very entertaining. Keep it coming! 😛
@crankshaft-rf1nh Жыл бұрын
Great content, keep spreading the word
@OctonaBoyFresh Жыл бұрын
I love my new 5.7 daytona. My base r/t got totalled. I had $20k in equity because i bought my r/t during covid 2020. With excellent credit I could have gotten ANYTHING i wanted. I decided to dump $18k cash ins payout into my new fully loaded daytona and financed only $25k at 5% CU. Payments $400/m x 72 I'm extremely happy! Gotta be smart!
@JTISOLA Жыл бұрын
just bought a Hellcat should I install a catch can?
@paulvincent3825 Жыл бұрын
If it’s said to be a collector’s edition be sure it isn’t.Many people have put away so called collectors cars and years later they were extremely disappointed at the value of those vehicles.
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
A collector car doesn't become a collector car just because the manufacturer says it's a collector car. Jaguar didn't put out the XKE and say it was a collector edition. Buick didn't put out the GNX and say it was a collector edition. It's just something that happens when a car ages and enough people figure out it is rare and special.
@paulvincent3825 Жыл бұрын
@@xtnuser5338 So true.
@dwalker5872 Жыл бұрын
I want those tips please . Just got my first challenger RXT
@JCVACCARO Жыл бұрын
I own a Challenger Hellcat. Its a 6spd 2018 first year wide body and the rare yellow jacket color with 19,000 miles. Did it go up in value? Nope. Will it go up in value? Nope. Is it losing value? Yup.
@greenrush4313 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2021 scat pack for 125 k. The dealer told me its a collector. It only has 56k miles on it
@BaBaBooeyWRLD8 ай бұрын
😂
@PBnjHEMI Жыл бұрын
Hey OC, that was me who sent you the video 😅
@ocmotivator Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍👍
@eddieburgos2164 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to buy a used charger scat pack. Can you maybe make a video about buying a used one?
@mjareacts2731 Жыл бұрын
The last vehicle I bought from the old daimler Chrysler group was a 2006 Chrysler 300 SRT8. That car costed me about 43K after tax, title, and destination, and I didn't care about the resale value, I bought the car to enjoy it. Today I own several vehicles, but I haven't bought a brand new vehicle since March of 2021 (that was a Polaris Slingshot). The last brand new passenger vehicle I bought was in March of 2020, that was a Chevy Silverado LT Trail Boss 6.2L for about 61K, and since then the prices have shot up dramatically.
@TheUsmc0802 Жыл бұрын
Most cars are horrible investments. Buy them, and have fun. My 2018 hellcat has 50k, one day it'll have 100k and I would've enjoyed every minute of it
@karmicforce01 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks these are an "investment" are more delusional than Corvette owners.
@MultiSmurf677 ай бұрын
i found a 2009 srt8 challenger in feb 2018 with only 10500 miles, hemi orange-very cheap...one owner, local car, well taken care of....aftermarket parts already put on it....the other cars were already out-6.2/6.4 hemis no one wanted that older car-fully loaded and automatic. there was a 2008 black srt9 sitting right beside it in black with navigation. i took the hemi orange. i could have gotten the 2008 for 4500 less but not black for me. i traded a corvette in on it. i have had the most fun in this car believe me. it is paid for and gets great mileage, a smiles per gallon as well!! right now the value of mine actually just went up 5k to 31k. i dont know why exactly. i dont want to sell it. i am hoping to be able to weather this fjb economy. this guy knows what he is talking about. i feel this economy is about to crash and if that is the case it wont matter.
@jerimahjohnson8698 Жыл бұрын
Looking for a scat pack or hell cat new for sticker ....east coast
@hectorcastaneda140511 ай бұрын
You hit it on the head. I’m a Porsche guy, I can’t imagine paying 200k for a car then going to a dodge service department mixed with lower tier clientele.
@blackonepac Жыл бұрын
Gd channel gd info!!!A bit off topic however does anyone know why corvette c7s are 5 -20 grand over msrp and they good investments???
@deweywallace6314 Жыл бұрын
I thought the only one of these cars that would be worth storing would be a Black Ghost due to the low production run. At 300 made, that is only 6 per state. Am I wrong? Assuming I could get it at or below MSRP.
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
most have a $50k markup re sellers on e bay motors
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
A car becomes collectable when it's special and rare. I mean, when the whole care is rare. If they made a million of them, but only 300 of them had a vinyl roof, it's still not a rare car. It's a rare vinyl roof only. If there are still half a million of them in the world thirty years from now, how much extra do you really think people are going to value the stupid vinyl roof?
@joegotz1971 Жыл бұрын
I just traded my 2020 raptor. I got 78% of its original MSRP. I had 4 Challengers and did fairly well on trades. But it’s time has come.
@wilsonsingleton1841 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos Brad!! Keep up the fantastic work! Make these videos nice and long. Also, sometime in late January, I'm going to trade in my 21 Widebody ScatPack for a 23 ScatPack. We live in Hawaii. Hopefully the prices are lower by then. You also remind me of my high school football coach lol! Awesome stuff. Thanks for all you do for the community brother.
@Clutch_Kick187 Жыл бұрын
Why would you trade a 21 for a 23 of the exact same car?.. Just wondering, since they have been virtually unchanged since they were introduced in 2015.. I bought a brand new Redeye Challenger in 2019 when they had the Dodge Power Dollars discount going on.. it was $10 per horsepower discount.. I paid $66,800 bucks after all the rebates ect.. I was planning on just getting a regular Hellcat, but the redeye was so cheap and I figured it would be much more desirable if I needed to unload it for some reason.. Its now paid off and I most likely will plan to enjoy it for a long time coming.. Its sad to see people paying as much as I spent on a Redeye for a Scat.. Geez that is crazy!!
@OctonaBoyFresh Жыл бұрын
@@Clutch_Kick187Dumb. Especially with the interest rates only going north
@patrickcooper2760 Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 Challenger hellcat and i absolutely whole heartedly believe these cars will never go up in value. Ill pass mine down to my son he loves Challengers also.
@Stanging84 Жыл бұрын
HE'S RIGHT! Everything he said
@mentelatl Жыл бұрын
I live in ATL. There are currently 2 SRT Demon for sale for around 130k+. I am watching them closely as the price of them keeps coming down cuz no one is buying them at that price! By the way, the monthly payment is like 2k+ a month.
@fulcrumsee5968 Жыл бұрын
250k for a challenger is insane. I love my challenger but the interior is almost identical from the demon to sxt. You cant justify to me why a dodge powertrain is worth a quarter of a million dollars
@oldschoolhiphop2275 Жыл бұрын
Its that power. A thousand hp stock hemi off the floor. My guy back home built a 68 camaro frame off with a big block 502 it's nasty with the chopped cam sound. It took a decade to finish it that was about the same amount ,but it's different spread out over several year's. It's no question definitely 250k is preposterous that's a house.
@fulcrumsee5968 Жыл бұрын
@@oldschoolhiphop2275 like I said, you can't justify why a powertain is worth a quarter of a million dollars. Especially when you get those numbers on extremely specific situations. You're not rolling out the lot hitting 1.66 0-60 or 8.5 Q1/4 mile on the first street. Let's be real, yes this car is justifably at most a 120k car especially with that interior. 8k (including manual labor) is what it would take have a pathetic base model SXT challenger look like a demon on the inside. 250k I can get an Aventotar that will make similar numbers, with much better handles and an luxurious interior. It is and will never be worth 250k in our lifetime
@RobertJacksonSr-mt9qq Жыл бұрын
Yor guys are chasing unicorns like 3 year old girls 😂😂😂
@Ken-bj5ce Жыл бұрын
Yup, your right, looked at new 23 Hellcat, $75K, they now have $2K factory cash till 11-30, $1K trade assist, and $500 military cash.
@briggsquantum Жыл бұрын
As long as you're predicting the future, what's the stock price of 3M and Starbucks in five years? I need to know.
@RDA81918 ай бұрын
Butthurt you paid 200k for a DODGE that, to most average people, is indistinguishable from the 30k v6 model? 😅
@MultiSmurf677 ай бұрын
amen-my dad worked his ass off building houses-building cabinets-etc and i was there right beside him....he was a vietnam veteran as well. i served 23 years until my combat injury ended that career as well. speak that truth friend. that is what i loved about ram-they had the least amount of electronics now they have more than ford. too much bs. i wont ever purchase any more new vehicles.
@sgarn19 ай бұрын
I can't afford a Hellcat right now. After seeing this video, I may have a chance to own one in about 15 years when one shows up on the market with 250k miles...but then again, it'll be like marring Pamela Anderson today.
@artistofshred1767 Жыл бұрын
I never bought mine as an investment my wife’s 392 Jeep 20th anniversary I got from the dealership that you go to down in Orange Coast bought my TRX keep them both in the garage and they’re just there for fun so I really don’t care about what they’re worth plus I really don’t drive my car too much anyway. Oh, and I paid MSRP on both. Thanks to you brother.
@davea4037 Жыл бұрын
Great points. Even if u wanted to keep it as an "investment", you wouldn't be able to drive it much, you'd be paying registration and insurance annually, and the plastic and rubber crap will need replacement. Strictly for fun..
@smacdiesel Жыл бұрын
Someday they will be worth some money. But not in my lifetime.
@xtnuser5338 Жыл бұрын
That someday will be a very, very long time in the future though. When there are only ten of them left in the world, THEN they'll have collector value. So if a million were made, 999,990 people will have to lose their asses so that the final ten can say, "I told ya so!
@Srt_du Жыл бұрын
Great Content As Usual
@MoparAdventure Жыл бұрын
just got a 2021 scatpack widebody indigo blue 6 speed manual. its so amazing 46,897
@BaBaBooeyWRLD8 ай бұрын
Best part 12:36 my man…and that tombstone cracked me up afterwards lol
@cbrturbo72 Жыл бұрын
These cars went from FOMO to a whole new FOMO. Fear Of Massively Overpaying!
@michaelwalker8870 Жыл бұрын
Ironically if you do not drive these super charged cars casually or even occasionally you will be paying for it further down the line because parts that were meant to be broken in properly were not as the manufacturer intended them to be. So as a result you either stuck completely reserving and or risking the value going down the second you either break the engine in or start the car and drive down the road more than 30 seconds. i have a ford Taurus 2017 it hates when you just get in and drive it without letting the transmission or engine warm up first so i let it warm up first but if you noticed on a cold day when you only let your engine warm up but don't drive the car and cut it off and come back start the vehicle but the oil temp goes back down but then you turn the engine over drive more than 30 seconds cut the engine and start it back the oil temp will stay warm. it's because the parts requiring heat and liquid to pass through got the adequate amount and as a result are pretty much on standby for immediate use. I belive this theory applies to super and turbo charges cars once they are broken in or used occasionally. But i also believe you can strike a happy medium. Get a daily driver and garage, get an honest mechanic and rack, a good body shop and detailer.
@patthomas9547 Жыл бұрын
Great video I have 57,000 miles on my scat pack and I hope to have 150
@OctonaBoyFresh Жыл бұрын
Warranty just about up brutha
@patthomas9547 Жыл бұрын
@@OctonaBoyFresh long gone!
@OctonaBoyFresh Жыл бұрын
@@patthomas9547 sheesh
@josebrown5961 Жыл бұрын
In my town we have a car dealership guy. 20 years ago he had one and now he has like 8, all different makes. He also is a car lover. He has a collection like Rick Hendrick, hundreds of cars, mostly old muscle but he has one or two of these Hellcats and other “special” Dodges. He is the only person I know of that can afford to collect these cars. He will just park them in his indoor garage and leave them there for when they will be worth it. He won’t drive them, they will have delivery mileage. Anybody that doesn’t have it like that is a fool trying to “collect” these Chargers and Challengers. If you can’t pay cash then you are wasting your money.
@lotus95611 ай бұрын
I’m here for a good time not a long time. Buying a nice car and just letting it sit is dumb. Drive it, have fun. Enjoy life.
@TheOzthewiz Жыл бұрын
The prices that you showed in the listing, could buy a NICE 4-bedroom HOUSE in MY part of the country (Mid-Central Wisconsin) LOL..
@esccools10 ай бұрын
Awesome content. Blue collar man!
@etpass8595 Жыл бұрын
Drive it like you stole it. I drove my new challenger out the lot, and it's not on the breaking period. But I abuse the living crap out of it once I got it, and It put smile to my face. But I sold it and try to get something more practical and grocery getter. Anyway your Point is solid and I believe no car will ever appreciate, unless it's special collectible car.
@bobby7898 Жыл бұрын
There was a king Daytona on bring a trailer that only went to 113k reserve was not met
@VanCityDLLM Жыл бұрын
I agree and I like these cars. It will be holding some value in 20 years but I'm not waiting 20 years for a small return. If you like, buy it and enjoy just for the car.
@2RCPRODUCTIONS Жыл бұрын
All cars (muscle cars) follow the same trend. Buy new they depreciate and then over time bounce back. Challengers in general have had good resale. The difference is they have made tons of them for many years but now they are not. Clean well kept units will be sought after and the tons that were built will fade away over time. All the cars that are daily driven and beat on or destroyed by accidents etc etc will bring them numbers down which will make the ones that are around more special. Im not talking making a shit ton but even if they bounce back to original value depending on when you bought it can be great. Because if your an enthusiast and have enjoyed the car for 15 years and can get back what you paid that’s phenomenal in my opinion! I bought my scat pack because I Love them not because of value in the future but wanted to have one NEW before they went away. I knew they were going away so I bought a new 21 before the prices shot up. A piece of beautiful muscle car history secured 👍. Great conversation points OC👍
@RTmuscle_ Жыл бұрын
Really really helpful advice here!
@DouglasWilford-ls1pf Жыл бұрын
In my town I seen a plum crazy super Bee charger but it was a wide body they wanted $70,000 I looked I think the MSRP was 68 or 69.000 very small markup
@markwilliams6785 Жыл бұрын
If you could buy a Hellcat Jailbreak at the dealership invoice. Would you? MSRP is 83/87K. Sale price is 74/76K.
@Study49-yt Жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 challenger rt. Header orange. 6 speed manual. Sunroof. One year rims, with 10,000 miles. Bought it for 12,000. Dodge dealer wants to give me 25,000. It is only one of 114 made in that package. I think I am going to keep it. Great investment.
@jonsandstrom2356 Жыл бұрын
I’d be happy if I got 80 to 90 percent of what I paid for my swinger in a few years when I sell it. I paid 3k under sticker. It was less than many regular SP wide bodies on the dealer lot.
@ocmotivator Жыл бұрын
You did great on your swinger for sure getting it under msrp! Just drive it and enjoy it. 👍👍