The BIZARRE DRAMA Between the 1987 St. Louis Cardinals NFL & MLB Teams

[@GregoryWeagle]

Love the WWF cameo in the newspaper clipping partially showing a prototype match to the Royal Rumble match which debut in January 1988.

[@travismiller4320]

Looks like it was only a 12 man Royal Rumble

[@ZeroCrystal]

@@travismiller4320 True, but you got Paul Orndorff and Rick Rude in it, and they were fresh into a feud after Rude's debut. Would have been worth admission price.

[@RetroJR3379]

You beat me to it lol

[@GregoryWeagle]

@@travismiller4320 It was probably one of those matches done as a test to see if the Royal Rumble concept would be accepted by the fans in that house show. Seems to have worked, too. For what it is worth, the first Royal Rumble in January 1988 was with 20 men and was on cable. The Royal Rumble didn't become a PPV and increase to 30 until 1989. Also, before it officially became the Royal Rumble, it was sometimes called a Rumble Royal.

[@cameronrose9902]

I would pay to see rude vs orndorff, I'm saying Rude won with help from Heenan!!!

[@ATCguy1973]

Can you please do a Mets/Jets dispute over the years at Shea stadium? Also in 1975, Shea stadium hosted both My baseball and football teams.

[@Ghostrider6A]

Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants all used Shea in 1975. Yankee Stadium was in the middle of a renovation.

[@AdamJ617]

I totally agree that there should be a video about both NY baseball teams AND both NY NFL teams sharing the same stadium. I didn’t know about it, and so that is a great video suggestion.

[@Ghostrider6A]

@@AdamJ617 I'd certainly be interested in knowing on how the schedules were formed that year...especially on Sundays during baseball season.

[@theknightswhosay]

I imagine things happened at yankee stadium and the polo grounds too.

[@russellgrosser-7677]

That would be an enjoyable video to watch for sure! I'd like to see one re: the Buffalo Sabres and the former NBA Buffalo Braves (now the LA Clippers) who always argued over scheduling issues in the old Memorial Auditorium.

[@tomworrier]

ah yes, I remember the '87 strike well! Washington wins their second Super Bowl (the first one also coming during a strike-shortened season in 1982) completely random unrelated side note: the WWF newspaper ad at 10:02 features the first ever test run of the Royal Rumble, which was won by the One Man Gang

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, good thing the Vikings crushed the 49ers, and, subsequently, forgot, how, to catch.

[@ajk]

Glad I wasn't only one who caught that, didn't realize it was the very first though, although makes sense with the verbiage in the ad. Also..on another unrelated note.....some guy named Ric Rude was on that card apparently. No word on if he was related to Rick Rude or not......lol.

[@matthewdaley746]

@ajk Relationships, are, very confusing.

[@williamrogers7974]

He looked an awful lot like Bam Bam Bigalo

[@matthewdaley746]

@@williamrogers7974 Numerous things greatly explained.

[@RetroJR3379]

Not surprised about Jack Clark he even wanted to fight Tony Gwynn when he was a Padres.

[@travismcdonald6576]

Yup.

[@bkjbearcat78]

I remember people used to call the football Cards the Big Red to differ them from the baseball team. Being from the KC area I remember both the Big Red and the Chiefs were horrible most of the ‘80s. In fact when both teams faced one another depending on the home team one side of the state couldn’t watch the game. It wasn’t until the Chiefs faced the Rams in the mid 90s that the whole state could watch a game between its teams. Bush stadium while a good baseball stadium was horrible for football. Arrowhead was way ahead of it. The problem for fans in St. Louis, the Dome wasn’t all that much better.

[@TLOWNSU]

The Dome was kinda shit I agree, but man do I have fond memories watching Rams games there

[@DolFan316]

Haha, you said Bush stadium 😋🤣

[@davidlafleche1142]

The cookie-cutter stadiums were slightly better-suited for football than for baseball. The Dome was designed for football; structurally, there was never anything wrong with it. Football fans were too fussy, just like baseball fans who hate Tropicana Field.

[@Gage_Brumley]

@@davidlafleche1142Problem is the Dome was built in an awkward era when stadium designs were really improving. It was more similar to the RCA Dome, SilverDome and Metrodome that it was to newer domed stadiums such as Ford Field. The Alamodome had the same problem

[@danzemacabre8899]

They were "the team I'm not allowed to root for because they don't win opposed to the baseball team "the team I have to root for because it's part of the family' that's why the football team left there was a whole lot of that

[@FatPigInTheHouse]

Who gets upset? The people who work concessions just to get by. The owners and staff of restaurants and bars that surround the arenas. The parking attendants. The stadium maintenance staff. Literally everyone.

[@DolFan316]

And Yugoslavians, don't forget about them!

[@williamwilkinson381]

Wtf would they care huh?

[@dandyjimbuckley]

I’m not upset…😤🤬😭, although I would feel better about the situation if I had a huge pile of 💵💰💴 to lay down on too…that being said, I sure hope ESPN has an option to renew their contract with the KBO 🇰🇷 🙏🏼…can’t go on without my ⚾️ fix.

[@davidchodds]

"Willis" McGee. Lol. That's like calling Michael Jordan, Mickey Jordan or Tom Brady, Timothy Brady. Omg.

[@robertlevine2827]

To quote Gary Coleman with somewhat different intonation, "Whatchyoo talkin' about, Willis?"

[@bobma6342]

Some of his teammates called him that because he reminded them of Gary Coleman. He had the mumps one time and had chubby cheeks.

[@wewin03]

I’m old enough to remember Jack Clark. His personality rating would’ve been higher if he spiked his opinion into the ground on every single play.

[@CarlosMedina-vj7ot]

He was the only guy to play in San Diego and somehow not get along with Tony Gwynn. The homer against the Dodgers in the NLCS tho….

[@NJGuy1973]

Did you read about Jack Clark's bankruptcy in 1992? He owned a ridiculous number of cars.

[@jasondickstein71]

Jack Clark is best remembered for his series clinching HR in game 6 of the ‘85 NLCS against LA.

[@matthewdaley746]

World Series, infamous, though.

[@juliansmith1951]

@@matthewdaley746 Hall of Fame baseball voice Jack Buck said Swing and a long into left adios good bye and maybe that's a winner a 3 run homer and the cardinals lead by the score of 7-5 and they may go to the world series on that one folks

[@matthewdaley746]

@@juliansmith1951 Alas, ultimately, unfortunate, outcome.

[@alexsweet8585]

...and dropping the foul in game 6 of that WS.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@alexsweet8585 The Cardinals quit psychologically.

[@Zs_Guitar]

Man I miss old Busch Stadium so much cooler looking than new Busch. Love the arches on the top of the stadium and the real arch just outside.

[@randallfloyd4476]

same here....such a great atmosphere in that place, and the turf looked awesome.

[@MKISports]

Imagine if the football Cardinals stayed in St. Louis instead of going to Arizona. The Rams should've stayed in Los Angeles instead of heading to STL.

[@Zs_Guitar]

That’s how it should of always been. St. Louis should still have there football team Baseball team and hockey team.

[@danzemacabre8899]

And st.louis would never had a super bowl win

[@johnnysama]

It was so long to the NFL Cardinals in St. Louis after all this drama. X( Pretty crazy story.

[@rockylum6947]

I am not surprised that this story revolves around Jack Clark. He was a brilliant hitter,but he was also famous for his surly demeanour.

[@kennethhall289]

He wasn’t calls Jack the Ripper just for his home runs

[@teto85]

As a long time SF Giants fans I am not surprised with Jack Clark's asshattery.

[@chrismagruder24]

How crazy is it that two of the biggest jerks in SF Giants history shared the same name and number?

[@JJGerrard1980]

Psshhh..like you got room to talk with Will Clark over there. One of the biggest D-bags in bb history and one of the Giants most beloved players. Between Clark, Bonds, Bonds Sr., Jeff Kent, and Leonard's douchey hr trot, it seems like it's a prerequisite for Giant's stars to be total A-holes.

[@stevenking6129]

Everyone hates scabs

[@mholtebeck]

@@JJGerrard1980 Jack Clark was always a big asshole. I don't remember Will be a giant a-hole. Jeff Kent is pretty big one, and Bonds is also. But there is no shortage of a-holes.

[@nicoleknight9412]

@@JJGerrard1980 Except for Mays, maybe

[@Firebirdfrenzy79]

Football-only guy referring to the great Willie McGee as “Willis”. C’Mon man!

[@jerseygunz]

Love that WWF actually advertised a pose down hahaha

[@DolFan316]

1980s WWF: We need to bring in more of the female audience! 2020s WWE: We need to bring in more of the transgender audience!

[@skidawg22]

1987 was sadly the last year for the football Cards in St. Louis, ultimately culminating in a $790 million lawsuit settlement in November. On the subject of historic teams, shout out to the Montreal Expos. Also, Yugoslavia.

[@kevinlarkin2696]

I thought that settlement was for the St. LOUIS Rams

[@hermmmc]

That settlement was for the Rams. St. Louis got nothing for the Cardinals except a mercenary team for 21 years.

[@TheSjuris]

@@hermmmc neither of those teams were native to St Louis.

[@hermmmc]

@@TheSjuris Let's see, of the 8 major league sports teams that play in LA, exactly 3 of them started there as expansion teams, so LA has pretty much been the king of poaching teams. Also had the football Cardinals not moved in 1960 there would've been no football Cardinals, they were doing that poorly in Chicago. As it was the city built them a new stadium in 1966 only to have a greedy owner reject it less than 2 decades later.

[@TheSjuris]

@@hermmmc same owner as the one that foolishly moved the team to a baseball city. Have to remember the league never wanted to even have another football team in Shit Louis after the Cardinals left.

[@danivuk2036]

As some one whose family came from the former Yugoslavia, I love that my Twins beat his Cardinals in 87.

[@matthewdaley746]

Metrodome certainly possessed influence.

[@tygrkhat4087]

I'm a Cards fan, but that was a great World Series.

[@danivuk2036]

@@tygrkhat4087 yeah it was.

[@reintaler6355]

the Twins are the most clutch pro team in MN by a country mile...

[@Kingpinmat]

Yeah The Twins AND The Umpires beat the Cardinals! I remember it well! There were several but the biggest Umpire FAIL came in the 6th inning of Gm 7 when Tommy Herr was picked off 1st base with one out & the score tied 2-2! First Frank Viola balked! Then interference on Kent Hrbeck in the baseline blocking Herr from getting back to first! Last but not least Herr was clearly safe getting back! On top of that the Umpire couldn't see cause his vision was blocked so he just guessed! Tommy Herr should've been awarded 2nd base with only one out! May not have meant the game but it sure changed the momentum & strategy with 3 innings left to play (along with several other Umpire fails)! I'm not a sore loser, just hate to get cheated by officiating & then see a Twins fan gloat! I actually liked the Twins but they had help throughout that series! End of rant

[@michaelholman517minKC]

Jack Clark was nuts. This story doesn’t surprise me in the least…

[@WaltGekko]

Considering he filed for bankruptcy while still an active player years later, it does not surprise me.

[@encycl07pedia-]

Steroids?

[@AlexDanielCPhT]

@@encycl07pedia- Excessive car collecting, if I remember correctly.

[@bobma6342]

@@encycl07pedia- if I didn't know any better I would say CTE

[@encycl07pedia-]

@@bobma6342 He was a baseball player. I don't think CTE is much of an issue in baseball.

[@Gen-X-Memories]

I remember Bidwell whining about just wanting a bigger stadium so the Cardinals could compete with other teams. He was such a cheapskate and terrible owner. He couldn't even fill Busch Memorial on a regular basis.

[@LeBasketballGuy]

I don't miss the headaches but seeing NFL games with a dirt infield was kinda cool and I miss that.

[@prestonlindbeck1197]

All but a memory now.

[@theknightswhosay]

Yeah the only team that played horizontally across the baseball diamond was the last one to get a different stadium when the Raiders moved to Vegas.

[@paulweston8408]

Hearing a baseball player complain about the NFL strike is seriously tone deaf. Anybody remember the 94 World Series? Fun note, Jack Clark hit a homerun in every game I saw him play live. I really liked him as a player, but he could take batting practice at a lot of places in St. Louis. Hard for an entire football team to move practice no matter if they are real players or scabs for One guy to get 30 or so extra pitches of bp.

[@matthewdaley746]

The, "fans," of Montreal would have you believe they would have, won, it, and, The, 1981, World Series, and, that they only don't have a team, for, those reasons, economics, indifference to baseball itself, don't bother us, with, your facts.

[@WaltGekko]

This was seven years before that 1994 strike that in retrospect HAD to happen or MLB would have been facing far worse consequences, including being potentially shut down by courts for the 1995 and '96 seasons if MLB had caved into the players because that would have likely meant the Pirates would have folded (they were that toxic financial-wise at the time) as Pennsylvania legislators likely use legal action to block MLB from operating at all until a solution was found that kept the Pirates afloat.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@WaltGekko Yeah, no, the players could have chosen to be unselfish, and, did, not, they struck of their own accord, and, were, not, forced, but, they, conveniently, leave that part out.

[@LeBasketballGuy]

Oh shit, 1987 happened before 1994??? You mean Hulk Hogan slammed Andre The Giant when he was already dead?

[@matthewdaley746]

@@LeBasketballGuy What an awesome trick.

[@wyattmann8157]

“Willis” McGee? Wha choo talking ‘bout?

[@VortexTheShark]

Duuuude the old WWF newspaper ads lol

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

You need to do the Jack Del Rio/Otis Taylor fight.

[@bobma6342]

how did that happen?

[@sweetpeach3649]

I can't imagine how confusing this would be lol. Like if the Steelers were still called the Pirates as well.

[@matthewdaley746]

The, Pirates, made, "A, Deal, With, The, Devil," for, 1960, 1971, and, 1979, and, "The, Devil's," been, collecting, ever, since.

[@SteelerFanInRI]

Or if the San Francisco Giants decided to stay in New York

[@stevenbauer4799]

Could have had two royals in kc at one time as well.

[@kurttoy5035]

Or if the Brooklyn baseball Dodgers hadn't moved to LA and the football Brooklyn Dodgers were still in operation.

[@pronkb000]

There were a ton of MLB/NFL crossover nicknames up until about the 1940's. The Cardinals were the last holdout.

[@SigHawk04]

A nod to number 22 on 2-22-22.

[@scottweber3792]

‘Willis’ McGee? Come on man.

[@Bruce12867]

Probably had Willis McGahee on the brain.

[@CTubeMan]

Whatchu talkin ‘bout, Jaguar?

[@TheY2AProblem]

10:00. Holy shit!!! Paul Orndorff vs Ric Rude!!! I can’t wait to see that match!

[@agrofindastation]

LOL, as soon as you said a Cardinals player was threatening to kill scab players, I said, must be Jack Clark. Hahaha

[@positively_broad_st3780]

Whatcho talkin' 'bout with 'Willis'?

[@kalbuskj31]

The 12 man royal rumble and Mr. Wonderful vs Ravishing Rick Rude looked like a good WWF house Show card.

[@annaleighstewart2315]

I am a Twins fan since I do live in Minnesota, but do you think the 87 WS would have bern different if Clark was available for that 4-3 Series loss by the Cardinals.

[@matthewdaley746]

Unsure, but, I think the Mets would have stopped them, just, unquestionably.

[@Rockhound6165]

I don't think it would have mattered because STL's pitching killed them in that series. When you're giving up 10, 8, and 11 runs in a World Series game Babe Ruth isn't going to save you.

[@matthewdaley746]

@Rockhound6165 The Mets had a, better, offense, and, their pitching hadn't fallen off, yet, the Twins sure lucked out, no question.

[@silyrabittrxr4kids5]

@@matthewdaley746 If the Twins didn't have homefield the Mets or any N.L. team would've struggled at the Dome. The Twins didn't lose a W.S. home game in 87 or 91, however, they didn't win a single W.S. road game either.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@silyrabittrxr4kids5 Yeah, but, the Cardinals, were, hitless wonders, with, virtually, no power, who relied, on, speed, and, adequate, pitching, the Mets took a team's heart, by, clobbering them, early, and/or, sticking around, late.

[@peacefrog0521]

Jack Clark: *angry xenophobic rant* Gene Stallings: “I need to talk to your Manager.” Jack Clark: “Ok Karen…”

[@petecapravos3044]

Clark was the Karen, a big drama queen with an even bigger ego.

[@kolfibrown6540]

1987 Worldseries my Minnesota Twins defeated that 1987 St.Louis Cardinals team

[@Charles-h1x]

This is real cool. I remember taking a vacation trip with a friend in august of this year. Going to st. Louis and seeing the cards vs. Phillies and i think cards only won one in 3(4?) game series . First though went to KC and saw Royals Yankees,but i just really dont remember games,it was fun being there. Good video,good job on this,hey,i had no idea.

[@markmenning1804]

The baseball Cardinals lost in the World Series to the Twins

[@KWCline91]

That era of Cardinals baseball was bittersweet. On one hand, they were perhaps the best team in the National League in the 80's. On the other hand, they lost two World Series in three attempts.

[@matthewdaley746]

@Kenneth Cline The 1980s, had three teams that, really, should have been, Dynasties, the, Cardinals, Mets, and, Athletics. The Cardinals, lost, Keith Hernandez, and, that just submarined them. The Mets, were, a victim of many things, The, Playoff Format, truly, stood out. The Athletics needed an earthquake, to, win, even, once, and, adding insult to injury, were, bookended by a Twins team that, would, win, the, World Series, in their only two Playoff appearances. The only, multiple, Champion, in, the 1980s, were, the Dodgers, and, Toronto, was, good, for, three years, but, would, win, two, straight, World Series.

[@johncate9541]

I'm a Red Sox fan. My last memory of Jack Clark was him stealing money and playing like crap in his last season.

[@MikeHL78]

yesssssss. He was a waste of a contract by then.

[@colebarrick7973]

I just had a beer with Jack this past weekend. At my bosses in Central mo

[@akbarlebowitz8151]

And declared bankruptcy later.

[@jmad627]

As a Yankee fan I almost remember him playing for us…lol!!

[@Coldpack13]

Say what you want about Clark, but you can’t deny he was one of the a top power hitters of his playing time. Plus he didn’t need any juice to accomplish his numbers.

[@msarzo]

I remember seeing that Washington won the game despite (or because?) they didn't have a single NFL veteran cross the picket line while the Cardinals had some of their regular starters. There were roughly 27,000 fans at RFK Stadium and many of them were chanting, "Stay on strike! Stay on strike!" Of course, there was also the huge upset two weeks later on Monday Night Football when Washington upset a veteran-laden Cowboys team 13-7.

[@stevenbauer4799]

That was planned. Gibbs and skins knew there would be a strike and put together the best scab team possible. Won the s b too.

[@matthewdaley746]

That team, was, a total fraud, they didn't play the, 13-2, 49ers, would miss the Playoffs, completely, the next two years, and, only, reached, the, SB, because, of, "The, Drop."

[@matthewdaley746]

@steven bauer Only, because, everything broke right, the next two seasons proved what a total fraud they, were.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@matthewdaley746 well if niners get to s b they whoop the broncos again. And what if nelson doesn't drop that pass? Then perenniel chokers the vikes and broncos play in the s b.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@matthewdaley746 yep. A lot went right for '87 twins. That's for sure.

[@SRNelson]

A bit off topic, but I'm stuck by the similarity between Clarks stance and swing and Giancarlo Stanton's. Having seen Stanton swing in person and on TV at home, his swing seems so unorthodox, it's a surprise to find a comparable swing so many years earlier from Clark.

[@davidlafleche1142]

I loved Carl Yastrzemski's vicious uppercut swing, holding the bat way over his head, then swinging up. Unfortunately, Yastrzemski injured his left shoulder around 1970, and never had the same power after that.

[@gothard5]

Whitey Herzog’s Cardinals teams in the 1980s were incredible. 3 World Series appearances in 1982 beating the Brewers (I think?), 1985 losing to the Royals, and in 1987 losing to the Twins. All of this coming from a diehard Reds fan.

[@matthewdaley746]

1982, was, the Brewers, Paul Molitor, and, Robin Yount, they, were, their best opponent, but, they lucked out, because, the, NLCS, was, best-of-five, against a fluky Braves team, and, they avoided, cross-country, travel in the World Series, with, home-field-advantage, and, Keith Hernandez, they got rid of him, played California teams, and, needed to go on the road, twice, Dynasty, thwarted.

[@BrianRetro]

The ironic thing was that all three of those series went seven games.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@BrianRetro Yeah, and, the Pirates won, Game Seven, on the road in, 1979, in, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1991, 1997, 2001, 2002, and, 2011, the home team won, 2014, finally, ended the streak, indeed, a new one began, as, it, 2016, 2017, and, 2019, were, all won by the road team.

[@jetfan925]

What's that with the blur at 4:34?

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

Not sure. Someone else pointed that out and I don’t know why it happened because it wasn’t there when I exported. Was supposed to say “the race was really close”

[@DolFan316]

@@OfficialJaguarGator9 I'll let it pass. This time. 😋

[@CTubeMan]

@@DolFan316 Such mercy.

[@michaelotten2724]

Pro wrestling ad on news clipping reference makes it hilarious!

[@bettyboop8423]

Haha, I found that ad pretty amusing as well

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

9:56 Unrelated note, that's an ad for the first-ever Royal Rumble ever done; an experiment that was won by the One Man Gang. People in attendance said it was one of the worst things they ever saw, so the concept required additional tuning. On topic, I find your channel quite fascinating. Keep up the good work.

[@davidseymour6447]

So did the two teams really hate each other, as it said in the video description, or did Clark merely hate the football scab players?

[@Boogaboioringale]

It was just Clark.

[@mholtebeck]

@@Boogaboioringale And Jack Clark hated everybody.

[@jeremyday212]

Willis McGee? Just one more thing. Jack Clark was good at first base and fit in well for that team. I would not state him as the 3rd MVP of that team. I would put Herr, Cox, and Pendleton over Clark in 87.

[@TheLastOilersFan]

Dad in the 80s:"Son,I've got tickets for the Cardinals game." Son:"Alright!" Goes to the St.Louis Football Cardinals game.

[@mandocalrissian4968]

On a Different note, Look at that WWF flyer looks like a Saturday Nites Main Event card..

[@appleiphone69]

I remember the Redskins vs Cardinals scab game. A WR for the Redskins set the game franchise record for receiving yards. Like 222 yards.

[@hughgurney8686]

Anthony Allen I think he was. Thought it was more like 285yds and ranks amongst the highest receiving totals ever - but it was long time ago and haven't looked at the NFL Record and Fact book in years. Think Jerry Rice only just surpassed him with a 290yd game

[@appleiphone69]

@@hughgurney8686 yeah that is the guy. I did not bother looking it up when I first posted.

[@mgb4692]

Stephone Paige had the single game mark in the 80s with 309 against the Chargers in the 85 finale before it was broken by Flipper Anderson (336) four seasons later--which still stands today Megatron came close in 2013 but finished seven yards off. Rice's 289 yard game was in 95 on MNF against the Vikings

[@JeffCirillo]

Twitter blue checks would have a field day with Jack Clark today.

[@jacasoasheland6815]

this is great content!

[@richsheer4905]

Great video. I was unaware of all this. And as a Mets fan, I really hated those ‘80s Cardinals teams.

[@matthewdaley746]

Look at it this way, when they, stupidly, gave away Keith Hernandez, they, were, finished, winning.

[@F40PH-2CAT]

@@matthewdaley746 they could have won in 1985 if Andujar didn't have a nervous breakdown on national television. Or if Don Denkinger had retired in 1984.

[@matthewdaley746]

@F40PH-2CAT If Keith Hernandez, were, there, it, never, reaches, a, Game Seven, period.

[@williamwilkinson381]

@Rich ....boo hoo 😭 The mets are a 2nd rate team even their own city ... 😆

[@williamwilkinson381]

@@F40PH-2CAT ..they alao should have have win the series in 87 if the Twins didn't cheat by turning on the air vents in the Dome while the home team batted ...

[@mikeisler760]

Your old school videos are great. 👍

[@armorybrunotjr.3204]

In 1987, the baseball St. Louis Cardinals went to the World Series, but lost to the Minnesota Twins in seven games. The football Cardinals had a disappointing season, and ended up moving to Arizona. From 1960-87, St. Louis had both the baseball and football Cardinals; people called the football Cardinals Big Red to differentiate it from the baseball team. Both Cardinals used the original Busch Stadium (1960-65) and Busch Memorial Stadium (1966-87).

[@matthewdaley746]

Losing Keith Hernandez, indefensible.

[@marcus813]

It makes me even more disappointed that my Buccaneers blew a big lead to Big Red at Busch Memorial Stadium in '87. I wish I forgot that I watched that game.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@marcus813 Disappointing, though, completely, unsurprising.

[@jimfarmer6794]

It was the last season that the football Cardinals played in St. Louis

[@vickrunalza8057]

I lived in Tempe, AZ for 18 months … Phoenix is indeed a different city.

[@Rockhound6165]

So is Irving, by quite a distance, but they still say the Cowboys are in Dallas.

[@mrg8581]

Detroit Lions used to play their games at the Silverdome in Pontiac.

[@pjabrony8280]

I'm more interested in the fact that the WWF held a Royal Rumble before the official "first" one in 1988.

[@christophercastanon2277]

PAUL ORNDORFF VS RICK RUDD!?! AWWWRIGHT!!!

[@denisceballos9745]

I remember that ‘87 strike. There was a lot of anger directed at the scabs, not just from Jack Clark. It got ugly at times. The scab games were crazy, a comedy of errors. There were pictures of Joe Montana in the papers, laughing and relaxing in the midst of the strike. Joe always knew how to keep his cool and wait for the drama to pass. I think the strike only lasted 4 games.

[@tygrkhat4087]

Correct. The first game after the strike was called was cancelled, then the next three were played with replacement players. IIRC, Washington was the only team that did not have a player break the picket line.

[@petecapravos3044]

@@tygrkhat4087 They also won all three replacement games.

[@DolFan316]

Except that Montana actually crossed the picket line along with several other Hall Of Famers. But I'm sure he did it in a cool way.

[@mgb4692]

The final week was the greatest: Steve Largent totally obliterated the Lions "scab-ondary" and would have had well over 300 yards if he had played the fourth quarter. The rest of the Giants team was trying to get LT's autograph half an hour before their game against the Bills (that they lost 6-3) And the above-mentioned Redskins upset of the Cowboys on MNF that over a decade later inspired The Replacements.

[@tygrkhat4087]

@@mgb4692 Again, IIRC, both Marv Levy and Bill Parcells said it was the worst game they were ever involved in.

[@epholson97]

I know this is a football/NFL channel but I was waiting for the mention of who the baseball-Cardinals faced & ultimately lost to in the World Series that year, but the mention never came. Had it been mentioned however, it would've been that they faced the Minnesota Twins in the Series, who ended up winning their very first championship in what was a great 7-game series! It's understandable though, considering the video was not about them or even really about baseball in general, just about a really good baseball player who got some bad luck at the absolute worst time he could've gotten it, and his inability to deal with it in a professional manner. Love these videos & I appreciate every one of them!

[@matthewdaley746]

Great, for, terrible reasons.

[@big8dog887]

The first World Series where the home team won every game. The second one was 4 years later and also involved the Twins in the Metrodome with the Homer Hankies.

[@williamwilkinson381]

The twins only won because they cheated...they turned the air vents in while the home team batted then turned off when the Cards were at bat .... I hated that dome laughed my butt off when the roof caved in with snow 😆😆😆😆😆

[@epholson97]

@@williamwilkinson381 - that's a joke right? You're not actually serious about that "cheating" aspect of your comment are you? That's a long time to hold onto your hatred for a building...

[@jimsmith6603]

OP, the Cardinals had WAY MORE than one week to go on September 9th in 1987.

[@marcus813]

Jack Clark was way out of line and thank goodness Gene Stallings checked him. Also, thanks for acknowledging that Tempe and Phoenix aren't one and the same, especially considering that the football club has never hosted a game in Phoenix despite using the city as its geographic identifier for its first few years in the Valley of the Sun.

[@Rockhound6165]

Stop whining. The Giants and Jets play in NJ but still go by NY so while your town is getting dissed, my entire state is getting dissed.

[@marcus813]

@@Rockhound6165 That's "whining" to you? I only told the truth. Don't use your state's omission from the NYC-area NFL clubs' names as some excuse to come at me all crazy.

[@Rockhound6165]

@@marcus813 it is whining because I can throw a rock from Tempe to Phoenix. There's little difference. Meanwhile I gotta drive an hour up the turnpike and cross a state line to get to NY.

[@marcus813]

@@Rockhound6165 The Meadowlands are closer to Midtown Manhattan than Tempe is to downtown Phoenix, so it's not that deep for you to come at me like the way you did and you're the one whining here, not me. All I did was state facts and nothing more and I said what I said, PERIODT.

[@DolFan316]

Stallings checked and wrecked him, and should've decked him.

[@bmilam5]

Willis McGee? WTH? How about John Montana? LOL -- My man you do a good job but, for the love of God, have a someone proofread your scripts. HOWEVERRRR....

[@DillonDigitalVideo]

I'm sorry, but at (10:00), I can NOT stop focusing on and trying to read about the WWF wrestling match between Ric Rude and Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorf! I'm in need of Adderall...

[@Rockhound6165]

Look at the rest of the card as well. Pretty good matches for that era. Bundy vs Steamboat, Orton vs Muraco(the original Rock), One Man Gang vs JYD, Bulldogs vs Demolition.

[@DillonDigitalVideo]

@@Rockhound6165 ~ Yeah man, good stuff!

[@mgb4692]

Also no doubt seven year old Randy was there watching dad

[@MainEventPoint]

Love the wrestling card ad on that Stallings clipping

[@petecapravos3044]

I went to a few WWF shows at the old Veterans Coliseum back in the mid to late 1980's. Some good and loud crowds!

[@DolFan316]

That was the best part of the video 😁 Change my mind.

[@Tubewings]

4:34; Uh, what happened there?

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

That’s a good question. Not sure why it cut out midway through cause it didn’t do that when I exported the file. Was supposed to say “this race was getting close”

[@wiedep]

?!?WILLIS!?! McGee - WRONG AGAIN, AS USUAL...

[@Madstsone]

Pretty sure the Yugoslavia thing was a joke. See back in the 80s, in addition to football and baseball being played in the same stadiums, people also had a sense of humor even when they were pissed off.

[@DolFan316]

Except that there's absolutely nothing about jack Clark in this video to even remotely suggest he has a sense of humor at all.

[@urbanleftbehind]

Maybe it was a wise self-censor instead of saying north or east st. Louis or worse. Also could have been the O line against the D line were you might see some -ski, - ich and -ak last names.

[@mikeb8674]

JG9: “I refuse to acknowledge that Tempe and Phoenix are the same city.” The Coyotes: [nervous sideways glances]

[@Pookiepup1]

There was a reason why Jack Clark was nicknamed "the ripper"! After the automatic tarp rolled up on Vince Coleman's ankle in 1985, depriving the Cardinals of one of their best players in the World Series, the loss of Clark in '87 was hard to take.

[@matthewdaley746]

Their best player, was, actually, Keith Hernandez, their, moronically, indefensible, decision cost them, one, Championship, for, sure, and, possibly, two.

[@TheAlfrulz]

Early in the strike in Kansas City, LB Dino Hackett and TE Paul Coffman jokingly waved unloaded shotguns while proclaiming "We're looking for Scabs" as the replacement players arrived for practice. They said it was in jest, but there were a number of ugly incidents with regular players hanging around the team facilities as replacements were being brought in.

[@mgb4692]

Funny thing about it is Paul's son Chase ended up with the Seahawks at the end of the 2015 regular season, who with all their injuries could have been deemed a replacement team themselves.

[@stevenking6129]

Scabs are scabs.

[@vinyllpreviews9462]

NFL players literally had a picket line.

[@bobma6342]

Imagine that today?

[@adrianfung]

I mean Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton brought a combined 5 guns to their locker room...

[@fredact]

The were replacement players. Please refrain from using the highly inflammitory "s" word. That's very very offensive to many people.

[@theholyvineofdavid647]

Paul Orndorff had just turned babyface and was in a feud with Rick Rude over who had a better body

[@mooninites755]

I think this is a pretty disingenuous portrayal of what he said, even if what he said was bad. He said he was going to hit line drives at them, not that he would kill them. The fact that a line drive could kill them, is not the same as saying he would. This wasn't some angry, anti-immigrant rant. He was angry about the scabs and, historically speaking, scabs have traditionally been immigrants from poorer, Eastern Europe countries. It's probably a lot less relevant or well known today, given that it's been like 120 years since poor, Eastern Europeans have been coming in as scabs to work in the factories. It's a relevant piece of US history that gets glossed over today, but was probably significant when Jack Clark was in school. The quote seems more symbolic rather than he actually thought they were from Yugoslavia

[@terrypollard6791]

Uh……WilliS Mcgee?

[@alanstrong55]

The NFL Cardinals just had a tough time beating their competitors.

[@briandonegan8480]

10:00 perfect advertising placement in the newspaper clipping

[@punchcactus]

Severely underrated channel

[@flyabusa]

Paul Orndorff vs. Ric Rude. they omitted the "K" in Rick.

[@danzemacabre8899]

Went to the world series with half a team and it still took 7 games to beat em. They were the best team

[@c71score]

2:16 The good ole days.

[@PaulGreen11]

Hold On... The St. Louis Cardinals hated The St. Louis Cardinals??

[@brianarbenz1329]

So, did Yugoslavia ever get its football players back?

[@michaelleroy9281]

In 1975 Shea Stadium was a busy place they had the Mets Jets Yankees and Giants

[@robertperry8392]

The Giants actually played a couple of Saturday games that year on 10/25 & 11/1.

[@CTubeMan]

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about a dispute about Memorial Stadium in Baltimore between the Colts and Orioles in 1970. I wonder how that would have been resolved if Jack Clark were on that Orioles team.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

Jack Clark wasn’t playing in 1970. He was only 14 years old. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@matthewdaley746]

Like, the, 1988-1990, Oakland Athletics, they played three inferior teams, but, only, beat, the team that, was, the, best, and, all it took to secure the, victory, was, an earthquake.

[@matthewdaley746]

@Mitchell Bassler 11 years old in 1966 when Orioles, won, their, first, World Series.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

@@matthewdaley746 - Jack Clark was born in 1955. He would only have been 14 years old during the 1970 MLB season.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@johnbrowntheprophet Whoops, responding to, earlier, post, seems I'm terrible at math, fixed that, for, you.

[@charleslathrop8309]

And baseball is still king in St.Louis, not even the GSOT could unseat them as king.

[@matthewdaley746]

It's because they couldn't strangle Tom Brady in the womb, a, second, SB, they, probably, are, still there, if the Blues lose, Game Seven, in 2019, they move, eventually, their history, was, littered, with, building, Dynasties, for, other teams, while, getting bags of pucks, in return.

[@andrewpadaetz5549]

Willis McGee? I think that's Willie McGee...

[@edwardlozano8807]

At 2:39, did it sound like JG9 called Willie McGee "Willis"?

[@matthewdaley746]

Like, many of his teammates, he would experience a sudden power surge in the 1982 Playoffs.

[@andrewmitchell1565]

Yes, her did.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@andrewmitchell1565 Power explosion, just, unquestionably.

[@VisualTedium]

The Ripper took Niedenfuer deep and that will be remembered forever

[@PAGoTribe1963]

Yeah, but what about that pose down between Mr. Wonderful and Rick Rude?

[@DolFan316]

IKR? OJG9 needs to do another video just on that!

[@mgb4692]

Leading into Rude's posedown against the Warrior at the first PPV Rumble, rekindling their World Class feud. But we got Brian Zane for that

[@emorimiku]

got me looking at the wikipedia page for Yugoslavia to figure out where the fuck that comment from Clark came from... I got nothing

[@RetroJR3379]

Have you considered doing Baseball video ⚾️ 🧢

[@kenfroeschner7171]

Has any city ever had multiple teams with the same name?

[@mkendra29]

New York Giants had both from 1925-1957, but also the Brooklyn Dodgers were in both from 1930-1943. The Brooklyn football eam was eventually merged into an AAFC team called the Yanks... and for a short time in the early '50's they had the Yanks and Yankees.

[@thebourg]

Refuse to acknowledge that Tempe and Phoenix are the same city! Definitely because they are not! 2 very distinct towns in AZ, and made sense for them to change their name to the AZ Cardinals after a few years.

[@malcolmcox18]

Tempe probably sounded to close to Tampa

[@felixlueggerto]

A pose down between Rick Rude and Paul Orndorff. Now thats gonna put some butts in seats.

[@pronkb000]

Orndorff had just turned babyface again because...Bobby Heenan said that Rick Rude had a better body than he did. After that legendary turn and run against Hulk Hogan throughout 1986, what a horrible, anticlimactic way to make Orndorff back into a good guy.

[@DolFan316]

In today's world, absolutely.

[@nickythebull82]

I’m more interested in the Mr. wonderful vs Rick rude match

[@ajk]

That"s Ric Rude to you.....lol

[@mgb4692]

I hated Ric(k) Rude at the time, and it actually had nothing to do with his character A few months earlier on my birthday it was supposed to be him and Manny Fernandez defending the NWA world titles against the Rock and Roll Express, but he left, so it was Ivan Koloff instead in a non-title match. And of course it was retconned into what would be the Express' final title win in the Crockett era. I got to see him finally against Jake though the next year so it all worked out I guess. Still would have taken the K from him just for that😁

[@trevorgreer6098]

but,but, who won the pose down- Orndorff or Rude ?? (9:54)

[@MikeHL78]

Jack Clark did have a very impressive season in 1987, certainly, but a function of his MLB-leading walks total was the team he was on. He was the one and only power hitter the Cardinals had -- the one player in their lineup who was a realistic threat to take you deep if you threw him a meatball. Even when he wasn't being walked intentionally, pitchers were far less willing to challenge him with something in the heart of the strike zone than anybody else in the lineup.

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, funny thing, though, Ozzie Smith finished second, in, the, MVP, voting to Andre Dawson, whose team finished dead last, despite, his 49, HRs, Ozzie Smith hit, zero HRs, and, didn't get, triple-digit, HRs, in, a, 19-year, career, besides, the fact that he, was, a, show-off, his career batting average, was, so, pathetic, that, I don't care, how, many, Gold Gloves, he won, he couldn't hit the side of a barn, and, lost his job to Royce Clayton, he, never, belonged, in, MLB, much less, the, HOF, worse, if Andre Dawson played only one more season, he would have retired, a, Champion.

[@MountainDewComacho494]

I remember Jack Clark was kind of a hot head.

[@theknightswhosay]

The first nfl season I watched was 1987. My dad gave me a guide of the teams he got with a pack of beer. I think I still have it.