Old computers did it better!

[@bryanshoemaker6120]

The thing I love about old computer manuals. They didn't say stupid things like don't lick the power outlet.

[@jhgfljugcijggfdgjiii6901]

Shut up I almost licked that

[@kingdededelicious]

5 rem instructions for trolls 10 lick the power outlet 15 rem trolled ya' 20 goto 10 run

[@Jogjosmowwdkfs]

It's because people in my generation need to be reminded not to lick the sockets

[@AccountWasHacked]

Ya, you talking about a generation of kids who eat Tide Pods!

[@3dmaster205]

Yeah, but that was only added because idiots licked the power outlet; and then probably successfully sued them for a million bucks because the manual didn't warn them not to do it.

[@gammaboost]

7 years later, this is still relevant.

[@jubbetje4278]

And more than ever.

[@Lawg202]

ehhh I feel like the "quick reboot" thing has slightly changed now that SSDs have become more mainstream.

[@mikkojala]

8*

[@ghietrebz]

But Not Those Shitty Auto Generated By KZbin!

[@briancannard7335]

@@Lawg202 SSD's random byte access latency is 40 kHz. Imagine your CPU runs that "fast".

[@Umbreongodofhalo]

The new tech support isn't accurate. It's more of "have you tried turning it back on and off again?"

[@tylerboothman8060]

IT Crowd!

[@lm6036]

Yes, with good reason, you have no idea how many problems can be solved by a simple reboot. Many people don't realize that.

[@Umbreongodofhalo]

***** the joke your head

[@lm6036]

UmbreonTheNerevarine It's the truth!

[@nicholassiebert5347]

***** "Oh. Yeah... I just realized that was my mother."

[@rossmanngroup]

6:43 I feel that one....

[@mihneacireasa4613]

And it's only gonna get worse

[@jorgerangel2390]

I know!

[@DcMag]

This is like the best youtube crossover to see a Louis Rossman comment on a 8bitguy video kkkk.

[@Connie_TinuityError]

@lol. actually no it's not that surprising

[@markoap91]

Also, the full schematics in a USER manual! I get how that would basically be impossible today since the circuits are much, much more complex and manuals would have to be way bigger to accommodate the huge schematics, plus to the average user of a PC today that would look like alien writings so I guess there is no point. But it is still way cool that you used to get that for us who actually know how to read those and would want to mess with it.

[@matthewdavison2622]

When the internet is down. 1990: Looks like I can't play multiplayer. 2016: Looks like I can't play any games.

[@TeaganD]

I don't think there was internet in 1990, it's probably more like 2000

[@matthewdavison2622]

Yeah Ok it get it now.

[@yunglemonakis]

Teaze the internet was made in 1965 look it up

[@orangejjay]

The Internet didn't come around to what we know now until the 90s. In 1990, consumers weren't on the Internet.

[@CativaCookie]

Its not that bad, you can still log into Steam in offline mode and have around 90% of your stuff playable.

[@SNIPERPRODUCT1ONS]

At the technical support part I really expected him to say "have you tried reseting your router?"

[@iAMaReaperGotprobZ]

+Eazy "Have you tried turning it off and on again" eksdee

[@iAMaReaperGotprobZ]

+Eazy "Have you tried turning it off and on again" eksdee

[@nr6664]

Haha...so damn true!!!

[@dannygjk]

+Eazy Sometimes I would pretend I was a total idiot for 5 minutes to tech support. Then I would say, "Now that we both have wasted 5 minutes let's get to the point I was trying to make 5 minutes ago when you asked me if the little red light on the front of the computer was on."

[@kinstar]

+iAMaReaperGotprobZ thats the cherry on top

[@davidgeorge6278]

You could beat a man to death with an old atari st, and it would still load the garfield game after.

[@xxxBURSTANGELxxx]

:D

[@someguy2135]

That was disturbingly specific.

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

David george Was this the model and game infamously involved in such an incident?

[@aretard7995]

or Aopen pc case trust me those cases are solid

You could bore a man to death with a modern PC, no violence required.

[@1coteca]

I remember copying entire lines of BASIC programs from my C64 manual without knowing what I was doing! :D I still felt like a genius!

[@riponrip4574]

That must have been fun!

[@Takeshi357]

If you ask me, Facebook is NOT a positive development.

[@Jorg13]

agree

[@andrewdavis5386]

I second the agreement.

[@notaberger_3216]

agreed

[@romero-kyun2681]

our ancestors would be very dissapointed in how humanity turned out

[@MatiasHettichCastillo]

Totally agree

[@peterbrandt7911]

Wow, I didn't know, that uninstalling MS Office can extinguish a fire.

[@christopher32074]

And it is really impossible because the motherboard is fried and your CPU couldn't turn on.

[@in6587]

No shit? really?

[@TR2000LT]

Well you know now.

[@Ajcimo14]

But what has trying to show is something simple as that can cause a problem with any computer

[@Renville80]

NintenDOS So how’s middle school treating you?

[@Skillet98]

"You think your Commodore 64 is really neato what kinda chip you got in there, a Dorito?"

[@TheMamaluigi300]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[@bistro4]

You're usin' a 286, don't make me laugh! Your Windows boots up in, what, a day and a half?

[@Skillet98]

bistro4 You could back up your whole hard drive on a floppy diskette You're the biggest joke on the Internet

[@matthewsorensen4303]

+Kevin Walter Illuminati confirmed

[@lolaofalllola]

+Kevin Walter your database is a disaster, your waxing your modem trying to make it go faster

[@igfoobar]

The best thing about old computers was: NO FACEBOOK

[@Zak-ob5ze]

No one uses Facebook other than old people so...

[@satan3959]

Or twitter

[@billbergen9169]

@@satan3959 Trump uses twitter.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

*worst thing

[@billbergen9169]

@@TheCandoRailfan Depends who you are.

[@benedictsmithson2307]

old computers also weren't packed with software that you would never have a use for

[@90hijacked]

Some distributions of linux come barebone aswell :)

[@90hijacked]

ZACHARY DAVIS that's an understatement. lol

[@jerryspann8713]

Yes they did. It was the basic programming software.

[@IVAN3DX]

You can always format your PC, or build your own from components

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

gamer bob YES! ! ! !

[@ThomasFarquhar2]

"yes I have Microsoft office, who doesn't?" Me, that's who.

[@computerexpert5533]

i feel you

[@ThomasFarquhar2]

@@computerexpert5533 well I "have" MS office now. My school gave it to all students free

[@computerexpert5533]

I have a 2007 enterprise edition of office i still use it now

[@ThomasFarquhar2]

@@computerexpert5533 nice

[@5cover]

*Laughs in open office*

[@jumpinjackfishback88]

The second tech support was soooo accurate...

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

and i have a hard time understanding them.... i'm sure i'm not alone in that.

[@elliotk9291]

still tho you have to admit that I don't think everyone's computer is going to lock up and catch on fire

[@girlcrazyrockstar]

@@peachdome5349 my nem ees billy, ees deh computer plug een?

[@Raven10241]

@@girlcrazyrockstar did you pour gasoline on your computer before turning it on?

[@girlcrazyrockstar]

@@Raven10241 gasoline, manure, milk, glue, sawdust, honey, etc. Stuff like that

[@Random22]

“There was never an excuse to throw a computer in the trash” Correction: There *IS* never an excuse to throw a computer in the trash

[@LazySmurf]

Always fix and keep old PCs running. You never know when you might need a Minecraft/TeamSpeak server box, or even just a media centre! There's so many reasons to hang onto them. Hell, put one in an arcade cabinet with MAME and you've got a cheap ass arcade machine with EVERY ARCADE GAME!

[@DacLMK]

My mother gave me a computer from her workplace because she knows I'm into computers. I upgraded the CPU from the stock Celeron 420 to a Cor2Duo E7200 and added my old R7 240 Graphics Card and now it serves me as my multimedia machine.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

agreed you can always use an old computer for those old games your new computer won't play.

[@windestruct]

I need to convince mom to give her old computer to me, but she wants it trashed

[@GeneralSorrow]

@@sheilaolfieway1885 Internet Arcade

[@ornim1]

I was born in the wrong decade, seriously the manual came with programming tutorials!!!!!!?????

[@CaptainDangeax]

***** Indeed. You had a little book within the computer, with BASIC language programming. You could also buy the "PROGRAMMER'S REFERENCE GUIDE" with machine language teaching and all the stuff for deep programming the computer : the wiring, timings of the chips, memory addressing, everything ! Some C64 were sold with the "PROGRAMMER'S REFERNCE GUIDE" inside the box.

[@SiskinOnUTube]

***** My first computer was a ZX81. It had a dazzling 1K of memory (16K with the expansion pack) and a manual all about how to program it. I still have it in the loft.

[@babybirdhome]

CaptainDangeax That Programmer's Reference Guide was AMAZING, too! My friends and I all bought them, and one of my friends actually wrote a full assembler in BASIC, copying all the functionality of the Commodore 128 version in Commodore 64 mode, then added even more features to it. We also used it to write a VERY rudimentary 1 bit audio digitizer using the tape drive and the noisy audio driver by switching the volume on and off rapidly. But anyone worth their salt eventually just got a Warp Speed or Action Replay cartridge or similar to improve BASIC and add assembly/disassembly and a hardware interrupt switch for editing memory, and speeding up disc access about 5-10x all in one convenient little cartridge. ;)

[@alexpeh3363]

***** I'm a psychopath because I don't like people who kill because they think they'll go to a magical place? Yup you're an idiot.

[@phobos2k2]

You say you don't like people who kill because they think they'll go to a magical place. Ok. Fair enough. So what kind of killers DO you like? I ask because EVERY group on earth kills. Human social groups harbor murderers, regardless of belief. So since you're selective in your killers, what's your flavor?

[@cramsa]

In those days, you could never trash a computer because it was WAY MORE EXPENSIVE in those days. When I was growing up in the 80s, only business people or well to do people had a computer... everyone else had Nintendo.

[@aarongrooves]

The NES is a computer.

[@wendysmemer8829]

+aarongrooves He knows that, but it wasn't that useful, it really could only play games, most of the systems capabilities were locked off from the consumer.

[@aarongrooves]

Ahhh, I gotcha. Thanks

[@ocass66]

Imagine a Nintendo computer. I would try it.

[@fr33kSh0w2012]

Yes that is true!

[@Krakus19900]

Today is not repaired, today buying new...

[@MemeL0rdOfficial]

I repair mine...

[@DragonProtector]

i repair mine

[@MemeL0rdOfficial]

+MyChade well... It's not so hard, to buy a new, better part for your pc, and replace it.

[@DragonProtector]

The Anonymous ya but tsll that to those who only know how to turn it on and that it

[@compositebundle3549]

The reason some of these points are true is because businesses want to divide the market. All of the people that would repair computers and make smart decisions are becoming a minority against the "sheeple" that do whatever their favorite company tells them to. If you build your own computer, you can very much fix it. If you're an uninformed consumer buying a prebuilt, chances are you wouldn't know where to start in fixing it. It's not that hard to replace a dead CMOS or remount your CPU, it's just people are never taught this stuff and so don't know it.

[@AlexS-sc3gb]

WOW LOOK AT THESE AMAZING *GRAPHICS*

[@brianm2881]

Wow! Look at THESE amazing graphics!

[@Raven10241]

OMG!!!!!!

[@thirtytwenty]

those graphics are better than what my computer can handle

[@_GhostMiner]

Me finally buying good computer so I can play more than just Minecraft on low quality 😂

[@jaimenbrunson1652]

gTa. 6

[@bnewton81]

Yeah but today we have a wonderful thing called "designed obsolescence".

Yeah, these things are obsolete and all things get there in a long or short term

[@bnewton81]

Metaru Elite Google the term.

[@bnewton81]

Metaru Elite There are several things wrong with what you said. Things are most certainly NOT getting better. In fact, if you knew anything about the economy, you'd know that the goal of our current one is to fail ultimately. It is impossible that our economy will last much longer. Not the end of the world, but it's not going to be pretty. Here are some more things for you to google: Fractional Reserve Banking, Fiat Currency, Economy and an infinite growth model, Inflation, Quantitative Easing. Good luck in your journey to enlightenment.

[@bnewton81]

Metaru Elite oh ok. Well yeah computers are getting much more powerful much faster these days, BUT think of how much quicker we would see those advancements if the corporations that sold computers weren't trying to milk each generation of computer for every dime they could. We used the same resolution monitors for something like 30 years. That is because our current system is designed for profit not achievement or advancement.

[@MarioFanaticXV]

***** Nope, powerful politicians have these magical buttons that they can hit to make food/medicine/money appear out of thin air, so we should all switch to communism! And anyone who says otherwise is just a liar! Now if you'll excuse me, I dropped my tinfoil hat somewhere around here.

[@BharathRamMS]

Tech support: Indian accent! Nailed it!

[@shinjiikarir]

That was kinda racist thb

[@NonnofYobiznes]

Shinji Ikari Do you eat curry? Chances are you are offended by that wisdom.

[@nobody5280]

95% of phone tech support is out-sourced to India. It's not racist, it's reality.

[@ButcherGrindslam]

Fuckin' SJWs even here.

[@scottbreon9448]

I have no problem with ACTUAL tech support from India it's the fucking scammers from "microsoft" that piss me off

[@darksondap94]

"all your data would be still safe on your diskettes or cassete tapes" Well,not exactly...

[@AlexanderShadwick]

Well, it would be safe for up to 100 years and if you don't expose floppies and cassettes to strong magnetic fields.

[@siclucealucks]

this might work if you put them into an lead enclosure with some additional mu metall covering the box and then putting this box in a temperature regulated room. But natural magnetic field, radiation, temp changes will alter your data or to be more precise the magnetic compounds of the storage device. My father keept some old movies on casettes over 20 years in a box untouched not near some electrical device or near electrical wires. It was not stored in the basement. Only in his office - so only modest temperature changes. The most of them have a severe quality issues and some of them are even not usable anymore.

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

I had a great laugh on that BS.

[@19seventy97]

I have a 35 year old tape and it sounds fine. No problems with it at all.

[@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets]

Record: pretty much stable... Cassette: deteriorates with every use, screwed if tape gets jammed. CD / DVD / Blu-Ray: Gets all scratched up... Playstation black CD: Almost Scratch proof. MiniDisc: Much more durable, but suffers from TOC read error, data can be lost. Disk: mostly stable. USB Stick: The clear winner... External Hard Drive: Weak to Magnets, can fail after many uses.

[@horrortackleharry]

Please don't talk about 'male enlargement products' while slicing meat with a sharp knife. Thank you.

[@Kat21]

Do you know this video is years old........?

[@Moonstalker]

Fortunately it wasn't sausage that was cut :D

[@theRealLANman]

What ??? After, I saw the video, Then, "I got it".

[@le9038]

We will still talk about it

[@o_o888]

????? le ???? Indeed.. For some odd reason

[@acheleg]

a real manual- with a SPINE and everything!!!

[@acheleg]

those map-fold-ouyt manuals- they dont even call them manuals anymore, they are "quick start guides"

[@BillAnt]

In all fairness, nowadays better companies do have downloadable pdf files, I'm especially fond of the WiFi router manuals. ;) Anyone remember the Hayes modem manuals with hundred pages of AT+ commands? Those were the true pioneering days of the "information superhighway" at 300/1200/9600/56k baud! :D

[@scottbreon9448]

I get why open source programs don't have printed manuals, which is understandable, but there is no excuse for proprietary software/hardware not to have them. Today's printed "manuals" are more like brochures/pamphlets

[@DigitalEyesStudios]

While doing phone support, I worked on the original Boca modems and those AT commands were critical. I actually got to the point of memorizing many of them and could diagnose a modem just by sound. NO my name isn't BOB JONES...LOL

[@MrDestroyedSoulx]

Well, at least the manuals for motherboards are still pretty detailed and helpful. Buying premade computers isn't the way to get a great PC anyway for someone who wants to be in control of their PC and have proper upgradability.

[@Barnacules]

I've talked to Bob Johnson a lot in my day... :D

[@ALFONIC]

+Barnacules Nerdgasm Didn't expect to see you here! :D

[@ryanthelen4870]

+Barnacules Nerdgasm ayy whats up

[@DanaTheInsane]

+Barnacules Nerdgasm The one thing I love about Apple is I never have to talk to "Bob Johnson" anymore. They say we Apple people buy anything. But we don't buy outsourced tech support. For what we have to pay, we better not. The first thing I always said to Dell Support was "First tell me your REAL name" they always did.

[@SleepyMechanic]

+Barnacules Nerdgasm IBook guy is making it to the big time isnt he

[@Mrjtl999]

+Barnacules Nerdgasm Hey man!

[@foxymetroid]

It's not just home computers. Playing a new game on a home console in the past: 1. Insert game 2. Turn on console 3. Play game estimated time: 5-10 seconds Playing new games nowadays: 1. Turn on console 2. Insert game 3. Wait for game to install, even though you bought the physical copy and not the digital one 4. Make and eat sandwich while game installs 5. Take nap while game installs 6. Get your phd while game installs 7. Finally play game estimated time: 1-5 hours, depending on how good your internet is. Making DLC in the past: 1. Make complete game 2. Create additional content Making DLC nowadays: 1. Make part of a game and sell it full price 2. Make consumers pay again for content that's already on the disc they already paid full price for 3. Sell rest of the complete game in pieces 4. Maybe make additional content to sell

[@OfficialRainsynth]

True...

[@computerboy9766]

So damn right. Which is worse, installing a game on steam, or "installing" a game on modern gen consoles? No flame wars about which console is better please.

[@fcon]

It installs off of the disc...

[@HolyKhaaaaan]

Or you can wait five years for the summer Steam sale and buy the whole game and all the DLCs at 30% of the price for them all.

[@Rapid98k]

I don't know if DLC ctands for Downloadable content or Disc Locked Content.

[@Wes8761]

IT has really changed from electronics knowledge needed to understand a computer and fix the logic board to just knowing the larger component groups like a graphics card or power supply and knowing that its bad and how to replace it. It would be nicer to see IT professionals know electronics and actually fix things again

[@krecik2336]

What my previous computer couldn't do? turn on.

[@markusTegelane]

So true.

[@krecik2336]

MarkusTegelane ikr

[@GENATARi]

how about what my old computer COULD do that my new can't? lag...

[@krecik2336]

Genatari Kralc​​​ yeah. Or overheat like mine did. Or run as loud as a bloody tank.

[@LKComputes]

Krzychu TV

[@danielh9252]

*Old computers*: "Here's a tool to unlock your imagination." *New computers*: "Our imagination is your imagination. Agree to our terms."

[@hipwave]

unfortunately they are FULL of imagination, only they use it entirely to f*** us in the butt

[@BillAnt]

Or here's box or eye-candy for the brain-deads!! xD

[@scottbreon9448]

Old Computers "It will make your life easier" New computers "It will make your life easier...as long as you install a bunch of BLOATWARE first"

[@juliuszkocinski7478]

What? No. O think because of the internet, less annoying hardware limits and constantly expanding list of useful apps. Modern omputers actually unlock imagination a lot more. Especially for non-so-tech people.

[@Jeyeyeyey]

@@juliuszkocinski7478 Nah.

[@BlackEpyon]

Ah, yes. Back when if you could use a computer, you already knew what you were doing.

[@LiEnby]

it was better that way lol now too many people dont know what there doing

[@northzero2390]

they're*

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Likely easier to troubleshoot in case of random system file corruptions, driver conflicts too. Nowadays I get almost zero feedback if something is working incorrectly.

[@LegoWormNoah101]

The thing is: I don't program for Windows. I'm just a normal user, and my previous experience with Windows XP and then 7 paid off. Windows is relatively easy to understand.

[@millyyeasmin7904]

Back then, if you didn't know what u doing the manual would give you everything to learn

[@yamatodamashii1179]

70’s car manual: adjusting dwell, timing and spark plug gap. 2021 car manual: do not consume contents of battery.

[@choffman9915]

The tech support one is so true!

[@theultimatedinosaur96stegg43]

Hi&ByeGaming I agree

[@Windows11Official]

Hi&ByeGaming i also agree. now we have lots of scam tech support >:(

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Gamer LockHead AH! THOSE there funny tho

[@WedgeBob]

Wholeheartedly agree. It just seems that tech support nowadays is just nothing more than just talking to a wall through a phone. I mean, come on...if a company REALLY cared about the end-user, and the product you're using from said company, well...yeah.

[@nikolaoskarakostas8470]

μπ μ

[@ViperJay5]

Old computers really were better. Even though they might not have the hardware capabilities of today's computers, but they're sure built to last. I still have a computer from 1995 with the original parts in it and it still works. When I see Pentium 4 computers being junked, I actually die just a bit on the inside. Not that I have an emotional attachment but I just see perfectly good stuff being junked for new inferior stuff that's designed to break and wear out quickly. And now stuff is being designed like the iPad where you must upgrade the entire device otherwise you can't install the later software. Can someone please say ripoff? Let's face it, we've become a disposable society and it's really sad that we're taught that we must buy the newest equipment all the time otherwise be left behind. It never used to be that way, no reason it has to be now.

[@MichaelFlatman]

that's how you become a pc collector just keep with the new and don't throw any old stuff away and then when your bored you can go back to pentuim 3

[@ViperJay5]

Michael Flatman I do have a relatively new PC running an older version of Windows just because I choose to, but I agree with your sentiment. Sometimes the older stuff can be a great backup when the new computers fail. It seems bad capacitors and other cheapened hardware while better performing, just doesn't last as long as it used to. I had a Dell Optiplex GX270 that suffered the bad capacitors of death that brought the entire thing past it's knees and to it's demise, yet I have an older HP Vectra VLi8 that was used in a school since it was brand new and then I took it because they were going to send the older machines to goodwill. I'm still using it as a second machine. It's not a speed demon but it's a rock solid workstation. It had a PIII 500MHz processor in it that I did upgrade to 850MHz. I wanted 1GHz but I cannot find the cartridge PIII on eBay that would work with it and one time that I did, it was well not worth the huge $100 sticker price on it.

[@monfera]

> When I see Pentium 4 computers being junked, I actually die just a bit on the inside. I died just a bit inside when Pentium 4 appeared...

[@cameraman4brainiac]

There is a reason that P4 systems are being junked these days: the Pentium 4's were overpriced space heaters that were outperformed by both the AMD Athlon series and the later PIII's.

[@stijndijkstra3567]

Viper Jay 5 the only reason tablets can't be modified, is because every part is fitted exactly into the right spot, so it can be small and user friendly. it is possible to build a Tablet running iOS or Android when you have the parts, but assembling it is a bitch. because it is small!!!

[@KoepenickDrums]

I still close applications like this. Sometimes even before I fin

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

+KoepenickDrums If I wanna shutdown I just press the power button and leave my office.

[@thelazywanderer_jt]

Yep.

[@glitchsmasher]

+KoepenickDrums Alt + F4. I especially love how Linux will let you Alt-f4 ANYTHING

[@algi1]

+KoepenickDrums Hey, that's not how the comment box works. :P

[@alexanderwingeskog758]

Fuck I do the sa

[@chrissawyer1484]

Whoa whoa! Hold up. The C64 actually had a diagram schematic with it? I wonder what happened to the one that should have come with the computer that my brother and I got back in 1985?

[@matty1234a1]

Good luck getting schematics from a company nowadays

[@TakeMinamoto]

that's actually the only point that really nobody can answer to... I personally love being able to open up a computer and knowing what does what and where it goes... even down to possibly repairing it myself... but companies don't want people to be able to repair their own computers, they want them to spend lots of money and time buying new hardware and moving everything to a new computer every time something breaks... they keep us ignorant, and in the dark, so we can't make things last like they did before =(

[@SimonZellox]

+Takeru Minamoto Of course you can repair your own computer...

[@matty1234a1]

+Simon good luck figuring out were all those traces on a 1400 pin flip chip go, or getting replacements for said chips, if anything important shits out the device is ruined, not as much of an issue in the desktop world, but anything mobile its impossible

[@SimonZellox]

Matt Brewer Mobile? Is this focused on mobile? NO. Is replacing chips easy on Desktop? YES. Even on Laptops

[@matty1234a1]

+Simon there wasnt a mobile to speak of back then, and i would love to see you get your hands on, as a consumer, one of intels sandy bridge mobile processors, or one of nvidia's flip chips, or find a schematic so you can diagnose what the hell went wrong when your power management ic decides it doesnt much care for the vrms any more and roasts them

[@mattgrice7228]

He doesn't mention the productivity benefits of a single tasking OS here though!

[@scotter]

Ahhhh I miss my old C64.

[@Explore531]

Scott Swain me too

[@mbunds]

***** I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but there was a certain benefit to "owning the machine," when all it did while a prompt was being displayed was run no-ops until the operator commanded it to load and execute a program. Of course, memory management and housekeeping was strictly up to the programmer, unless you were writing in BASIC, and even then we would often "poke" machine language into upper memory, allowing us to crash the system in creative ways ;-)

[@Explore531]

I own one before, but it broke down so I toss it out and gotten the emulator and roms for the commodore 64,

[@mattgrice7228]

Mark Bunds I was absolutely not being sarcastic. Remember when you did what you turned your computer on to do, instead of surfing pictures of kittens for hours? I do. :)

[@briand6343]

I got anxiety when the last piece of Spam fell because it didn’t have enough balance to be cut.

[@The_Vile_Vortices]

Haha. Yeah, that made me cringe, too.

[@MJ-uk6lu]

I had mini heart attack, when he was so close to cutting his finger.

[@TheFox517]

Mantas Jurksa But that would be funny.

[@hipwave]

well,just ...LOoooooooL

[@zhawn14]

4:22 I love how boxed up his commodore, wrapped it, and then had his daughter open it while wearing retro clothing. I can imagine in his head "Man I'm gonna Spielberg the shit out of this...wait this is a period piece she needs to wear clothes that fit this montage." I freaking love how overdone this part is.

[@LesZapata]

I'm sorry, but I grew up with this and I don't miss it much as I can emulate all of that if I feel nostalgic.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

I think most of this video was mocking the old days...not really advocating it was truly better back then. I never liked the older games...cept maybe pong.

[@LesZapata]

G Henrickson True

[@fisharmor]

There's nothing in this video mocking the old days. And regarding pong... First, I suspect you didn't spend much time playing old games, and second, let me tell you, every time I sit a bunch of teenagers in front of an Atari VCS playing 4-player Pong Sports, or maybe Warlords, the first thing I get is complaints that they can't figure out a paddle (seriously, this happens CONSTANTLY), and the second thing I get is the satisfaction of watching them spend at least a half hour on it, and generally the reason they stop playing is because there are over a hundred other games to check out. And you know what the best part about it is? You put the cartridge in, you turn it on, and YOU START PLAYING. I rub it in kids' faces all the time when I'm playing with them, that four people sitting around for 15 minutes waiting for your game to download updates is something we never put up with - those carts still work 40+ years later and they're still fun.

[@martinkuliza]

guys the best part of the video was when the girl opened the box,Now for you young kiddies who don't remember the fucking awesomeness of getting a C64 for Xmas, this is how it went, a few months prior to you getting it, Your freinds had it, you begged your parents for it, everytime you were in the shops you would walk up to one and be like, Mum this is the computer that i was talking about, this is it, this is the one, LOL she would act like she didn't give a shit, anyway, months and months of begging for it, and pleading, and then one magical xmas, you open it, and it's luke FUUUUUCCKKKKK YEEEAAAAHHHH, No way, it's a C64 so, you went to Big W and bought a pack of Double Side, Double Density Verbatim Floppy disks and a disk box, and went to your freinds house to copy their games., then you told them you had one and it all went from there, it was awesome, best feeling in the world, oh and you told your mum you were going to use it for School, LMFAO we all know how that went down, but, we did crack open the manual and learn BASIC Programming. how cool was that.

[@CaptainDangeax]

I remember for one xmax, I got money from my parents, my grandma's and papa's and bought a 1541 floppy drive. What a quantum leap after the tape, even with turbotape. Some years after, same situation, I bought an Amiga500 and my happiness was as strong as the girl in the video.

[@martinkuliza]

CaptainDangeax LOL, hell yeah the old 1541 and thanks for jogging my memory, i almost forgot about the TurboTape yeah when 1541 came in it was all ,8,1 i remember that LOL and we were like, wooaah , check out how fast it load, it's like only 15 maybe 20 mins LOL and yeah, then Amigo 500 Rocked and Left C64 for dead, i think C64 still had more games though, i didnt' have an Amiga, i had to go to my freinds how to play it, he didn't seem to have as many games, he only had about 20 or so i had in excess of 400 Games on C64 Remember that feeling of having so many fucking games and one day realising how many games you had in your Floppy Box and then running your fingers over all your disks at once from back to front and the smell of all that plastic LOL Remember the Labels there was only room to write down 2 names, even though you had about 12 games on the disk, so you had to remember where each game was, based on what was on the label oh, and Remember Strip Poker LOL the graphics LOL Fucking Funny Memories and you were like "Hey dude, is my mum coming" I guess this was what the RESET Switch on the side of the C64 was designed for INSTANT OFF LOL thanks for the memory dude.

[@lm6036]

Well, i am born in 1996, when i got my first PC, i was just as happy :3

[@Boxed_Media]

i remember that. i got batshit mad one day before my birthday, and when i got it i apologized. And my kids are still the sam. I WANT THAT HEADPHONE AND THAT DRESS AND THAT THING said no and made them angry. and their birthday ended the same as mine. happy.

[@Xantosh82]

my brother and i were stoked when we unboxed our Amstrad The PC 1512 DD and we got tapper, digger and Alleycat with it, later on we got Mother goose from a cousin who had one of the same units but it had a HDD in it, anyone remember having to "Park the heads" before turning it off!

[@funkolator]

i miss that time 😞 it was much better then today. all. Music, tv, Teenagers... all

[@marwi16a53]

Teenagers???

[@awelotta]

Juvenoia

[@stevehd2542]

komm schon was ist denn so schlimm an jugendlichen?

[@meta7517]

This comment = nostalgia in a nutshell

[@NiceYoutuber]

Teens these days.... all they do is wave their phone around to this app called "musical.ly" and "vine" etc.

[@frostech3149]

This video actually got me into retro computing, and I still love it to this day! Thanks, David!

[@briancannard7335]

[@NeniomFood]

I've always wanted a Commodore 64. :(

[@Sulfen]

+Jorge Andrés You can get one off of ebay for $50-$100. But they sometimes run up to $200 so keep an eye out for deals.

[@IVR02]

+Sulfen I got my commodore 128 at a yard sale for $5 with a ton of bonus shit included.

[@uhavemooface]

+Petulant Wigglesabit Those are the only reasons to get one. I would love to get the old classics.

[@Zestence]

+Jorge Andrés Commodore 64 is so common they don't really have much value. You can get them for cheap and probably can for years to come. Amigas are a little bit more expensive but more fun for gaming imo.

[@brucewrigleysgumchewz4667]

+Jorge Andrés I always wanted a Commodore 128. But.... my family never had a lot of money.. instead we got Colecovision .. Still have a bunch of old carts today.

[@cabbycabby1770]

I love physical media. It's the collector in me. I wish movies and games came on a modern diskette.

[@videotape2959]

Cool.

[@MarioMario-jt7ld]

agreed

[@cheesetoast99]

Check out Indiebox! www.theindiebox.com/ IndieBox is a subscription service that delivers collector’s edition versions of indie games to your door every month. Each IndieBox contains a high-quality indie game, retro-style box art, USB game cartridge, color manual, original soundtrack, and much more.

[@NiGHTSnoob]

I love Floppy diskettes, if they had made a modern form of media that looked the same that'd be sweet. My absolute favorite old media form though? HuCards.

[@videotape2959]

Cartridges and cards are cool but they sadly do no make any noise when read and written...

[@exoticcar5482]

The tech support skit was so on point

[@glitchingaming2343]

it's because they don't want to admit that their firmware failed

[@glitchingaming2343]

I'm guessing the motherboard failed unless he hasn't checked the ram

[@LSweet2007]

ElevatorMan5482 ElevExperiencing Productions it was a little racist though.

[@paradoxzee6834]

MarioFan 835 The Irony is something at CS people dont wanna to lissen, ok its not a PC problem but it is a CS problem. One time I needed to replace something on my Wii U gamepad but in my country there is no official Nintendo CS but anyway the UK official Nintendo site have a live chat where I can talk to someone from Nintendo, its not the first time I ordered something from UK I just need to ask them to they sell it as spare part and thats it. Well I contact them and explain them, made them clear to ask only do they have that item as a spare part he answered with "please contact the costumer serivice in your country". I tried to explain it to him everyway I could but he was just like a broken record. I at the end just gave up and looked online for some stores that service gaming console, and the guy at the store that I contacted was unlike the Nintendo guy really helpful

[@nuchinuchitekton7730]

xD what wasn't ?

[@jerrystauffer2351]

But can the old computer play a video of why it's better?

[@scottbreon9448]

Sure, just make a demo like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/opyVoYKcoLyNpJY

[@tengentopka727]

Anything is possible.

[@IExSet]

If u need video, just turn on video player ! Profit.

[@AhDollar]

@@scottbreon9448 "This video is no longer available because the KZbin account associated with this video has been terminated"

[@scottbreon9448]

Ah Dollar OK, this... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqS7c2p8ZdGErbs

[@Pandamad]

You didn't have to install device drivers on a C64.

[@kokokoshka-s7c]

Pandamad because software contained "drivers" inside.

[@scottbreon9448]

Nor did you have to install bloatware...like WINDOWS 10, LOL

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

Shaun Arcade Classics world Yeah, if you want an OS that looks and feels like a fucking MOBILE OS Windows 7 Master Race

Actually the only meaning of a "driver" was your daddy when he took you to school or something.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

However getting sound to work on Windows 95 computers is a pain in the ass.

[@darkcart]

This was the first 8-Bit Guy video I watched.

[@markusTegelane]

DarkCart same!

[@topvideosonyoutube6521]

3rd vid i watched from 8-bit guy :p

[@riceexe]

DarkCart same

[@ozealousstreamer899]

DarkCart same

[@freezetile8588]

Me too!

[@rajvader]

Ah... There's my first computer at 4:00. Loved the VIC-20.

[@sithsmasher7685]

rajvader Mine was a C64c. Great times...

[@Space_Reptile]

rajvader atari 520 here, later a P3 whit 600mhz (800mhz TURBO whit the magic button, helll yes)

[@FightCollective]

rajvader Toshiba MSX here but always wanted the C64

[@rajvader]

I never got the C64 either... Expanded the heck out of the VIC-20 instead.

[@ExBruinsFan]

+rajvader My first was the Radio SHack TRS-80. With 16k!

[@drnod4779]

Perfect video. No ads, no bullshit, no "before we start, leave a like and subscribe." I loved it.

[@unison_moody]

What I really miss about the "old computer times" (even though I'm just from the 90s) is productive, simple, well written and reliable software. A good example everyone knows would be the "notepad.exe". It remained unchanged for so many years now because it simply works. Another example would be older games or games which had to live with hardware restrictions. I still can't believe that a game like "The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time" would fit on a 32MB cartridge. If someone would develope a game like this today (with quite common graphics) it would take up several gigabytes! Just because we have "enough" storage and cpu-power, eh? This really sucks! Smartphones are so powerful already but the limitations are unreal and out of bounds!

[@Chaos89P]

Actually, notepad.exe was changed somewhat because originally its space was... limited. Until it was "fixed," you were better off with MS-DOS edit or Wordpad or whatever.

[@unison_moody]

Chaos89P I know there was a small change. Thats why I wrote "so many years". :P But I think you get my point.

[@Chaos89P]

Moody Huh. I took "so many years" as "at all" somehow. Oops. But, yeah, I get it. 32 MB is chump-change compared to standard disk space nowadays. It's near impossible to push the limits anymore.

[@AsitorCorporation]

Yes, it seems like because they had limits they had to be careful with their space and memory restrictions.

[@david_escalante]

+Moody "What I really miss about the "old computer times" (even though I'm just from the 90s) is productive, simple, well written and reliable software. A good example everyone knows would be the "notepad.exe". It remained unchanged for so many years now because it simply works." Im glad people like you don't take core decisions in tech companies.

[@Barnacules]

I about crapped my pants when I saw the Ultima 5 floppies, I had that game and it brought back memories!

[@MrBrainy33]

C64 ... bring Back my Childhood Memoreis =) Please =)

[@Toxim]

Basti Wal Now its all Xbox One, PS4 COD ghosts bullshit full of 7 year olds who have non-caring parents that buy them 18+ games and let them play 8 hours a day. The world is going to shit.

[@CODMOC1]

SoMiracleAV1 Not to mention what filthy mouths these little kids have.

[@Toxim]

M Plough I know. It pisses me off too.

[@MrVegasTroll]

SoMiracleAV1 M Plough quit complaining

[@JimInTally]

IMO, the old Commodore 64 keyboards were, by far, the coolest keyboards EVER.

[@KudoRedfox]

So generic keyboard designs are cool now?

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

No Dewhurst buttons=not generic!

[@JimInTally]

Kraven: I was talking about the styling of the board, not the actual keys.

[@KudoRedfox]

James Vaught Even the board looks generic to me, it's bascially a laptop but without the battery

[@clicker123]

Nope, they were terrible. Having Cherry Keyswitches on your keyboard is the for performance, but the Commodore 64 wasn't all that special, but the extra icons on each key would make some entries easier.

[@arthurheuer]

6:12 Re-packaging a negative, as a positive, 101: Negative: Hardware not improving, over 12 years Positive: Software Longevity

[@erikparawell8476]

"MOM! Get off the phone!" or "No MOM I am almost done with the raid!", now that's one thing I don't miss.

[@shiftymiata]

erik parawell Yeah. I am an avid PC hobbyist, but I always treat my parents with respect. Most kids just get what they want.

[@erikparawell8476]

Of course I never would/could say say that to my mom, but you get the point.

[@shiftymiata]

erik parawell Yeah. I was agreeing with you

[@erikparawell8476]

Lol my bad.

[@TheMamaluigi300]

The "I'm almost done with the raid" thing isn't too bad, since you pretty much can't pause in any online game ever, but the "get of the phone cause you're embarrassing me" thing? You could just mute the mic.

[@g4mmalotus937]

Nowadays if you wanna know anything about the interworkings of your computer, you either have to look it up online, or build the computer yourself, from scratch. That's what I did, and it was an amazing experience. I know a lot more now about how computers work, and that's a skill that we're starting to lose. Though of course printing a whole schematic diagram would take too much time and money in todays world... Writing a program today much harder to do, and you need to buy a separate manual, and make sure it's the same format as the computer you're using, ect... I mean programs can do a lot more which means there's more you need to know, but I from what I've seen it's not too hard to do once you know what you're doing. You can use certain applications on Mac like Terminal, or something like Visual Studio on Windows (I've only seen people do it on Mac, I'm not sure how to on WIndows). Though it's not really taught in schools unless the student chooses to take a class in it later in middle or highschool. I'll absolutely agree that tech support today is nothing like it used to be (or at least from what I've heard and seen about how it was). The guy on the phone barely knows what he's doing, though fixing an issue isn't as easy as changing a number or two in the code. If I have a problem with my aforementioned desktop in the future, I know that I can open it up and take a look inside, without voiding some warranty, and see if I can find the problem myself. Pre-built computers today, especially laptops, seem to be almost built to just fail after a while. (Planned Obsolescence! It'll end us all!) That not only costs a lot of money to the consumer, it also creates a lot of waste and makes collecting tech like you do pointless! These devices are designed to basically not work after a certain point, even down to the programming. On the data loss point... Cassette tapes and floppy disks aren't exactly perfectly immortal storage units, but I understand what you're getting at. Though if my computer stops working for some reason that isn't data based, I can replace the failed part and get it working again, or just put my SSD into a new computer. Though technology today want's everything stored online, when I prefer to have everything on a mirco-sd card that I can put in my computer and in my phone, access it on both, and all without internet connection. Computers are moving away from portable storage devices, and I honestly don't like it either. I've rarely had very consistent internet, if the internet goes down and I have a project I'm working on stored online, I'm screwed. Software instillation is harder today partially because you have to go through and prove that the software is legitimate. While I'll say we've lost a lot of the wow factor overall, I think it's interesting to see how technology still advances on slowly. It's interesting to me that you can charge your computer, charge your phone off your computer, and access your storage devices all from one port now, (the USB Type-C). Also, computers are looking a lot cooler now, for example the HP Spectre. There was still spam back then, it just was in the form of adds in a phone book and junk mail in your mailbox

[@rich1051414]

It wasn't called spam though. The label of 'spam' was gained for two reasons, because nobody wanted spam, if they had a choice. Well, most people. Some people would actually choose to have spam if they could eat anything, but you can find weirdos everywhere. The health food kick happened around the same time as the internet, and spam was seen as processed garbage. The metaphor was too perfect for it not to apply.

[@wolfy1987]

Modern computers honestly look pretty shitty for the most part, unless you build your own, or buy some really high end thing. Especially in regards to laptops. Look! You can get your rectangle in gray or black! The Spectre looks pretty good, I'll give you that. But that one is an exception to the rule. And again, on the very high end of the price scale. Most computer companies don't seem to take aesthetics into account at all.

[@ChaosGaming21]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[@archived1292]

What do you mean, Where is the power switch? Is it on the back of my PC? Do i just unplug it then plug it back in? I really need help here!

[@archived1292]

***** What the hell are you even talking about?

[@monsieurouxx]

No, not on your shirt. Excuse me are you from the past?

[@archived1292]

machaineà Is it on my house? It's at the front door!

[@monsieurouxx]

ABlankNam3Kid OK obviously you didn't get the reference to "the IT crowd" :)

[@WindowsG]

this video, this one here.. this is what got me interested in old computers

[@oasishomeopathy7313]

He literally is not only a tech savvy but a professing figure in his art. This video is enlightening

[@MiaKiesman]

I don't agree on the less data loss. At least for me floppys and tapes would break MUCH more easily then a computer HDD. And even if a comp breaks you can just swap drives.

[@ZXRulezzz]

Well, floppies can be killed quite easily by hands, and HD floppies are much more fragile than DD ones. But when they're being handled properly, they could live way much longer than the average HDD of today. I've yet to see a single Commodore 64 floppy of mine fail. Tapes just wear out much faster, because tape is much more mechanically stressed than a disk. Also, tape can re-magnetize itself while being in spool without use for a long time. So they actually fail more than floppies, imho.

[@The8BitGuy]

True. But the point was not the reliability of the HDD in a modern computer. With a modern computer, ANYTHING going wrong might cause a regular consumer (who doesn't know how to remove the hard drive) to loose data. Could be a logic board failure or even just malware.

[@ZXRulezzz]

Well, gotta agree on that. It also seems to me that regular users knew more about their machines 10-20 years ago...

[@MiaKiesman]

The iBookGuy True, True.

[@omfgmouse]

> just swap drives And then spend an entire day reinstalling everything.

[@SkeetSeinfeld]

"Upgrading your computer always came with a sense of anticipation, to open the box and see what it could do. Each generation of computers offered something truly amazing compared to the generation before." "The hardware capabilities remained the same, so a new game designed 12 years later would work exactly the same on the older version." Please give an example on what would be truly amazing.

[@glitchingaming2343]

I noticed that conflict too

[@NuntiusLegis]

The C64 was a bit of a singularity with it's longevity. People loved it to bits - and still do. When mine broke in the nineties, I went and bought a new one despite Amigas and PCs being around already.

[@LiEnby]

^ i think you missed the point he meant theres no hardware difference between any of the comadoor 64's revisions

[@roukvelki8426]

Thank you my friend, I'm from that good old generation who started programming on Basic on my favorite Atari 800XL at the age of 7, your channel is bringing me back all those good memories. Thanks again!

[@syn010110]

floppy disks were NOT safe data storage! I'll take cloud storage over that shit any day.

[@freeNode5]

+Corinn Heathers floppy diskettes only got a bad wrap because manufacturers starting making them and their hardware very poorly, so we'd migrate away from them.. You'd be astounded how much more reliable the older floppies were than the garbage they were selling around 2002.

[@polymetric2614]

+Corinn Heathers "cloud" storage is literally you paying to store your stuff on another computer. some people even believe that if the planet dissapeared, the cloud would remain. -_-

[@Gabu_]

+РØŁ¥Μ€ŦŘΞĆ Yes, a computer far away from mine. Say a meteor hits my city. Well, my data is still fine.

[@wildbill23c]

+Corinn Heathers Except that now some big corporation has control over your files and can share, and/or sell your information, files, etc. to anyone in the world with a click of a mouse. I don't see how cloud storage is very safe or secure. Not to mention big government looking at every bit of data you got stored over there at cloud 9 LOL.

[@Gabu_]

William Todd As if they couldn't do it to an HDD inside your PC...

[@TahmidRashid]

The Wow factor is truly what I miss today. :-( I still recall the year 1999 when I got my Pentium III MMX with 64MB of RAM and 20GB hard drive. The glow that was in my face and the tears that anticipated my wait for unboxing the computer was surely missing when I got my i7 4790K with a GTX 980 and 32GB of RAM. To me it is just another PC with some minimal upgrade.

[@tl1882]

Same when i got a new dreamcast after having a genesis and snes

[@DystopianOverture]

The wow factor of getting my Gameboy Colour was through the roof, but when it came to getting my 3DS though wasn’t as much, from the brick DS upgrade. It’s kinda sad thinking about it.

[@melvinjansen2338]

Tahmid Rashid you grew up...

[@scottbreon9448]

Hell I still miss my ColecoVision

[@hristaki99]

Is this satirical? Seems like it, but it's marked as educational. Most of these have good reasons to be different in 2013 or just aren't true. 1. C64 booted up immediately, but it took ages to load programs. A modern PC does that in 5 seconds maximum. 2. If you want info about programming, you have that thing called the Internet with much more information and answers to any possible questions. 3. If your C64 started smoking and got black screen, Tech Support from 1990 wouldn't be more helpful than Tech Support nowadays. 4. You could also use an external HDD. It might be slow to transfer information, but are diskettes fast? 5. That didn't install software, it just ran it. Modern programs also have portable versions which you can run without installation. 6. I dunno. How about new games/programs that your previous PC couldn't handle? Isn't that the same as the C64 vs Amiga for example? Also you showed a 19 year video game timeline. How were video games 19 years ago? Graphics have changed a lot, just like 1971 vs 1990. 7. If you don't share your e-mail everywhere around the Internet and don't make accounts using it, you wouldn't get spam. Since you didn't have these options in 1990, it's no wonder nobody got spammed. 8. The C64 vs iPad? Why comparing a shitty Apple product against a computer? My PC can run 2001 games, just like my 2001 PC can run some modern games. 9. OK, that's something modern PCs don't have. 8 points for modern PCs, 1 point for C64.

[@ChuckyGang]

hristaki99 if I power on my PC (i5. SSD, 16GB ram..). it haven't even passed POST in 5 seconds. my Amiga has already booted its graphical GUI..2. to setup a programming environment requires a lot of work. on the C64. you WAS at an Basic editor already. 3. with that old machines, any radioshop (you know. by then they repaired stuff aswell) could repair the machine. (by actually reparing. not replacing boards) ah.. I love my Amiga and the oldschool machines. PCs are just booring machines with no soul.

[@bloodyhell302]

But old computers are still awesome, always been and always will. End of discussion.

[@andrewszombie]

Patrick Faulkner Patrick is right, arent you Patrick. /watch?v=Malf2PFXLG0

[@weefek]

hristaki99 Woooow congrats for displaying your uber genius you debunked it

[@ChuckyGang]

1. well my Amiga is by far more then a few lines of text. it is a graphical GUI, preempetive multitasking. way before windows had it.. well PC are more modern today. YES. but still my Amiga boots WAY faster. 2. batch is no programming, that is simple scripting. .bat files are HORRIBLE. .ps1 is more ok, still quite horrible. 3. no modern machines you cannor repair, you exchange boards MAYBE you change the caps but you do not repair more, tracerepairs changing ICs etc. the drawback with modern tecnology. it is simply too damn expensive to do real repairs. bad for the environment :-(

[@tennohack6704]

4:48 I think you meant to say "Wow! Look at... graphics!"

[@JustinHallPlus]

I was actually really proud of myself the other day when I took a broken laptop apart, hooked it up, and noticed sparks flying from a tiny (as in 1 mm wide) SMD resistor... I found one that looked like it (can't get a voltmeter reading on a charred resistor) in my pile of scavenged components, used a regular soldering gun, and it actually worked! The laptop motherboard is now fixed! so surprisingly hardware repairs are still possible, you just have to be brave and lucky.

[@Misterlegoboy]

there was always spam/chain mail, they've simply adapted

[@AllThoughts3rased]

YOUV INHRETD A MILLI DOLLORS CUME TO THIS SYTE scam.com

[@johnfrancisdoe1563]

Misterlegoboy I remember receiving "Nigerian" Spam by paper mail!

[@semloh1870]

A really excellent and true video. The first 8-bit Guy video I watched and I now have watched all of them and eagerly expect the next. I have recently realised he has another channel called 8-bit Keys and I am now watching those videos. This video really woke me up to how great it was in the 80s and 90s. I haven't watched TV now for 2 years- this channel, Techmoan, LGR, NostalgaNerd, Philscomputerlab, LinusTechTips and HistoryBuffs is all I need to feel that the world is still a decent place. Thank you.

[@MP-Fin]

semloH Yeah, tv is for old people who watch daytime soap-operas... KZbin for the win!

[@garrettleh2945]

No

[@garrettleh2945]

Its not true

[@MrDestroyedSoulx]

Nonsense. TV is where you get the best drama's. KZbin isn't even close to Netflix or HBO level quality. Cable TV may not all be great shit, but some TV is still great. My grandparents have decent enough taste, they watched The Handmaid's Tale and are watching Orange Is The New Black now. Daytime soap operas aren't for old people either, more for middle-aged housewives, who may still watch it when they get old. But I don't know anyone who watches soap operas.

[@kqzo]

3:26 "try running scandisk and defrag and if that doesn't work you should call us back" i got recommended this again after the tales from tech support video and i got this reference immediately

[@hotwire96]

Watching this all I can think for why this is the case is because, like all goods these days (especially cars), they aren't made to be kept running, they are made to be 'thrown out' or passed on after 3-4 years. Those Commodore computers were made to stand the test of time.

[@virgilwilliams8082]

+hotwire96 Unless you're into car mods. As shown in The Fast and Furious serious.

[@Loundre3]

Foolishness. An old PC is still usable, and they last very long (atleast my families PC lasted like 6+ years, and its still kicking). Just reinstall an OS of your choice and its ready.

[@YourPalHDee]

+hotwire96 You're referring to a different industry. I can assure you my computer would outlive a commodore 64 in hours use before a major hardware fail. The only components that are built to eventually fail are mechanical parts such as Hard Disk Drives.

[@matthewsorensen4303]

+hotwire96 It's true. People want you to buy more stuff so they can make more money. The internet (and other places) are no longer truthful.

[@MultiYippee]

+hotwire96 I have a 10 year old Dell Dimension 5100 running Windows 10. Your argument is invalid.

[@DragonProtector]

that why i stick with socket 775 good enough and more stable then todays stuff

[@agashcool123]

exactly, my q9550 lasted me a good 8 years and still goes strong if I use it

[@hydrochloricacid2146]

This is why i still have my 8088/z80 machine

[@DragonProtector]

i dropped qx6800 cpu on hard tile floor from counter hight trying to clean thermal paste off and it works 100% still and if you looked at it nothing would be able to be noticed.

[@agashcool123]

Well damn.

[@DragonProtector]

agashcool123 yup must be lucky

[@weloveyouuaj]

But old PCs were SO expensive!

[@TheTrueMissingLink]

Yeah, and now, in the future, we have an iPhone 8 coming out, which is gonna be over 800-1200 dollars, ffs.

[@deskguy839]

linc That's because Apple products are overpriced garbage.

[@TheTrueMissingLink]

Seagoat The Lord agreed.

[@Connie_TinuityError]

linc The iPhone X costs just as much as a LG Gram 15.

[@TheTrueMissingLink]

NovaS1101 Not to be an ass, but at least a fully fledged laptop is better than an overpriced phone. I mean, I get it. It's apples 10th anniversary, so they gotta make a new phone along with their normal flagship devices. But jesus, $1000? My God, I could buy a bigass gaming rig with that kinda money. It costs the same as one of the most basic MacBook airs they sell today.

[@TheLordOfNothing]

Fun fact: The "run scan disk then run defrag" is based off of another coworker David had while working in tech support at AST.

[@squidcaps4308]

Tech support in the 80s? Basically, you bought the computer and.. that was it. When the thing didn't work, you figured out by yourself how to fix it. If you couldn't figure out, that was it, get another software. Things didn't improve much in the 90s, you combined all the knowledge you had from spectrums, c64s and Ataris, looked how other software of the same type if they had instructions and used trial and error for hours or days. Installing a sound card? You physically configured them by jumpers, actually changing the how the current went thru the board so IRQs didn't conflict, DMAs, installed drivers manually etc. Again, mostly trial and error and you could actually fry the board if you put jumpers wrong.. Now you plug it in, turn the power on and OS takes care of everything. You know why us 40 something are pretty good with computers* and are not afraid to just try? I just told you.. The kind of tech support referred in this video was way out of budget for 90% of the home users, mostly, there was no tech support at all in your country. You read magazines and learned from there (also, magazines actually had code printed on the pages so you had to type them manually... after three or more days, it didn't work.. because in the next issue typos were corrected..) Now, i can download a software and go thru online tutorials and courses, learn to use in a day.. When something breaks: type the problem in google and problem is (usually) solved in minutes. * those of us that were interested enough about the subject in the 80s...Those who weren't, are just awful... Yeah, nerds won :)

[@TheStellaruniversexm]

But what if your computer is smoking and doesn't work? What would you do?

[@no-cg4cs]

***** That would never happen, a pc cant ppsychically make fire.

[@MrSupercar55]

Edric || Rich and Powerful! Tell that to Dell. They had to recall laptops after the batteries started venting cells and catching fire.

[@HorridAsianDrivers]

LOL, I had a Commodore 64 back in the day and it went faulty. I took it back to Dixons (the UK) and it took 6 months for them to repair it and send it back to me. It came back still not working. My dad went to the store and shouted at them, and they swapped it out for a brand new unit. These days, you call and someone is here that same day fixing your computer. But most folks these days can open up a PC and make upgrades themselves.

[@JoshuasRecordings]

***** Replace the power supply.

[@porkfreegaming5278]

who else went "HELL YEA!!" when they saw doom 1993??

[@porkfreegaming5278]

and quake

[@aretard7995]

I Did.

[@THEPOWER99FM]

I can't play this video Better uninstall this old floppy disk

[@Electravess]

Better uninstall windows...

[@TheMamaluigi300]

+NdM Gaming better uninstall my life

[@NinjamenHH]

+TheMamaluigi300 better uninstall reality

[@matthewsorensen4303]

+NdM Gaming replace windows with mac

[@TheMamaluigi300]

+RadioTM :3 better break the existance computer for sucking

[@tfruba]

I totally agree with you! "Back then" every computer had its magic inside that caused this "wow" effect each time. And each computer was slightly different from the other one (at least here in Poland) as every computer has been home made from whatever part we could find on the market :) I really miss those times...

[@Blahbevava]

Modern computers are superior in so many ways and I wouldn't argue with that. But there was something very special about the time period in the 80s. It had a very strong spirit of hope and optimism of building towards the future. I think that spirit is what people mainly miss from the 1980s decade. A kind of innocence in a way too. I hate to say but that same spirit is just no longer really around anymore. Today people tend to be more negative, spoiled, and quite cynical by comparison as the spirit of computers today has more of a feeling of dryness, run by marketers and accountants aimed selling things to the "Mass consumer culture" rather then a spirit of optimism among scientists and artists and what valuable promises the future of this technology could hold. The 80s was Awesome because it was so experimental. Nothing was set in stone yet, and that made things very colorful and interesting, filling you with a sense of wonder and creativity. Now days it feels like everything just sort of comes from the same mass consumer culture bubble gum machine. After a while it's like eating too much candy and just makes you sick to your stomach longing for a simpler more innocent time when people still ate real food.

[@yumri4]

one thing which they had in the 80's which is coming back is also SSDs but most notiably being terminal to Sever for data and/or computing ie the "cloud" ... just now they are much bigger and faster than back then.

[@RyoCook]

So true! Especially restarting your system. What a step backwards. Reset and Boot was instant.

[@mrbackup993]

kbytes vs Gbytes bro

[@YourPalHDee]

+Ryo Cook Not a step backwards at all, you couldn't run complicated graphical user interfaces on those old computers, so sacrificing something as irellevant in day to day use as "Boot Speed" is a logical step. Reset and boot was instant on those old computers, but it was also necessary to switch between programs, we now have multi threaded micro processors with billions of transistors that run almost infinitely more complicated programs, and multi-task without rebooting.

[@joemann7971]

+Ryo Cook You dont need to turn off the system to switch between programs, or to restart a program... so what's the advantage of that? Also, PCs have many many different configurations, which is often why the bios takes longer to detect any hardware changes. Most old computers had 1 hardware configuration, and newer computers were basically the same chip as the old one, just with a faster clock speed. Also, you could have fairly fast boot times. All you need is the right motherboard (which doesn't take forever during post) and a fast SSD or a RAM-based storage. Even if you dont have that, you could leave your computer in sleep and it will be ready for you to use fairly quickly.

[@crnobog]

+joemann7971 I got an 8 year old HDD and when i configure fast boot i get literally 16 seconds to full load (when I got a login password workaround, with normal boot 24), that is fast enough for me not to get an SSD, at least not soon

[@joemann7971]

Crnobog That's actually fairly fast for a standard HDD, but an SSD is still faster, but as long as you're satisfied with your performance, I see no need to upgrade either. I just mentioned the SSD since an SSD is probably the closest thing that can bring back modern PCs to close to instant boot times like the commodore 64.

[@_Bandit88]

hhahaha indian support

[@BlackEpyon]

What I think about when my old boss talks about Indians (native Americans). "Hello. Thank you for calling tech support!"

[@muchachoman6422]

Please call again.

[@jackeilles]

Fator Medo are u sure it is not a scammer...

[@rgbreeding]

Dell tech support was US based several years ago. I worked for them in Tampa

[@gargarbad6047]

Arjun Satarkar lol, the classic "waaah my condition is bad enough as it is, just tolerate my incompetence please" sob story but in this case, I don't think anyone actually blames those shitty Indian call centres, most who understand blame the tech companies instead for cheapening out on tech support and outsource them abroad

[@MrGoatflakes]

3:03 "Please restart your modem sir"

[@kidsalex13]

yeah, old ones rebooted quick, but 10 seconds isn't that long of a wait

[@mwbgaming28]

4 min before my computer becomes usable and i have an overclocked i7 and 16gb of ram

[@itclientservices]

+MWB Gaming Umm, what? I think you might have broken the processor overclocking it, cuase I have an i7 too, not overclocked, and it only takes me about 30 seconds, including login, to be able to play on my computer. Though I only have 8gb of ram.

[@mwbgaming28]

i only overclocked it from 2.4 to 3.3 i suspect the reason is because my hard drive is full

[@PixelatedH2O]

what computer reboots in 10 seconds these days?

[@mwbgaming28]

no computer completely reboots in 10 sec

[@Dave_thenerd]

1:24 I wonder...did he buy an entire new Dell PC just for this video?

[@lightningdev1]

Just taped a dell box and then 'opened' it (i think)

[@Bandicoot803]

Nah, he just put the original boxes back in and sealed the main box shut with transparent tape over the DELL original packaging tape, and then re-opened it up as if he just received it.

[@user-gb7cl8np3p]

exist

[@antongrekov7710]

buy a new Dell PC to only see the manual, this reminds me a episode of spongebob when he bought a tv and only used the box

[@zzasdfwas]

Yeah, he needed one to set on fire.

[@DamianYerrick]

3:37 Likewise, if my modern computer breaks, I can restore my data from USB storage or even the ☁️.

[@sebastianhult9765]

Or just take out the storage device.

[@inspirice9844]

You Mean Hard Drive or Solid State Drive -_- schools need to teach more about technology

[@sebastianhult9765]

InspiratioNation Are you talking to me or Damian?

[@wopmf4345FxFDxdGaa20]

Take out the hard drive. Only problem is that, hard drive is one of the commonly breaking parts obviously . . .

[@inspirice9844]

***** Both of yous

[@christostentes3199]

Today you just get warning book, like "don't eat the battery", "this device requires electricity" or "water is wet".

[@windowsguy2574]

Well, I do got excited when I get a new computer, and what It can do over the old one? Having a Core i7 that can actually run PS3 Games at quite good Graphics, I can play heavyweight Piano VSTis without clicking and glitching noises, I can use more than six Massive (Virtual Synthesizer) Instances while running Ableton Live 9 (Which is quite memory demanding as itself). Good video though! but take in count that nowadays computers are far more complicated than those commodores and ataris, but I have to accept that tech support is bad as sh!t, I'm a programmer and if I'd call because a problem getting some tables on a database in PhpMyAdmin, they would respond "Did you checked if the power cable is connected to the wall?" I know that most people's problems are solved easily, as they don't use everything on a computer, like just using it to surf the internet or watch videos or photos, but when you're asking for real problems, they won't know how to answer!

[@windowsguy2574]

*I do get

[@donmarinelo]

+Windows Guy You get professional, only in the windows OS!

[@darthgamer6080]

Core i7?!?! Pfff, lucky. Using a Asus laptop with the Intel Core i3 for homework and games, and it sucks ass 😭

[@LittleBigAxl]

+Windows Guy PS3? I hope you dont mean Playstation 3, lol. "good graphics".

[@windowsguy2574]

LittleBigAxel Yeah, I meant PlayStation 3, well, not everyone can afford a Badass High-end Gaming rig...

[@weskarcher483]

I still have my old Commodore 64C, Apple IIe, and Atari in stored away in boxes. 😁

[@flatshade]

Fiddling around with computers through the 80s and 90s was definitely more interesting than it is today. Same goes for computer graphics and software development, my fields. :)

[@julesverne4629]

My favorite Computers were and are my AMIGA 500+ and 2000HD AMIGA's from Commodore Business Machines from 1987 to 1993. P.C. today require you to purchase Expensive Software which includes Expensive JAVA interpreter while my AMIGA Commodore Computers included "Amiga C Basic from Microsoft included with the Amiga Commodore Computers" while today P.C. Software is "Super Expensive and the Computers have NO manuals like the Extensive Computer Manuals which came with my AMIGA Commodore Computer Workbench Manuals and Amiga Basic C Manuals and AmigaVision Large Manuals. This is NO longer the case with today's Laptop and Desktop PCs or iMacs, just discus for today's Computer Programmers!!!!

[@CriticalThinker-42]

Thanks for another Blast from the Past! I enjoyed my C=64's but I'm now spoiled by WindBLOWZ GUI, 4K billboard sized monitors, Terrabytes of storage... The sad part of growing up is realizing life's compromises!

[@zUltra3D]

When computer breaks 1990:Ok is not turning on.I have to check the chips. 2017:Ok is not turning on.I have to check the stock for motherboards.

[@gmcnewlook]

zUltra if it’s Apple “that will be 1300 for a new motherboard, might as well buy a new one”😉😂

[@minecrafttips22977]

Invalid reasons. 1. bloatware. Try a os that has little bloatware 2. Click the red x... 3. This is why we invented google, google it -_- 4. Notepad. 5. We have google, or google now or Siri, USE IT this is not the pre-internet era without google 6. As long as it's not Apple or a laptop you can replace your whole PC like your motherboard or CPU or gpu or Your hdd and etc 7. Double click .exe and spam next, TA DA 8. Graphics? Better graphics? Better performance? 720 to 1080p? Upgrading os? More customizations? Mostly everything.... 9. As long as you don't put your email everywhere you shouldn't have a metric tonne 5gbs of spam. 11. Same as today, replace and repair

[@minecrafttips22977]

And here's 10, didn't catch it because I'm on mobile 10: most software supports windows XP and vista and 7 and sometimes 8. From 2001-2014 support for os's

[@rhyleymaster]

Good job. You seem to have missed the joke that is the video. Congratulations.

[@TheFishJesus]

Just a question but in 5. What about Cortana? like i said, just a question.

[@TheLaXandro]

1) well, there's my clean Windows 8, booting in 10 seconds from an SSD... But it's still slower than Commodore. 4) notepad will not compilate programs. You still have CMD, though. 5) how do I use Google when the screen is black? 7) ...and then wait a hour. 8) if your game can't run on old computers *coughconsolescough* nowadays, you're considered a bad gamedev and everybody hates you. More blur doesn't count as better graphics. 1080P isn't a cure for everything, in fact, you don't notice it from 2 meters. As or non-gaming side, can't see much difference between XP and 8 in terms of effectiveness and customisation- in fact, 8 doesn't have some neat things XP offered. 10) XP and Vista are officially unsupported by Microsoft as of now, and new apps may, but not guranteed to work on them. Also, as he was talking about Commodore, a propritetary computer with its own OS, iPad is much closer to it, and they, indeed, are obsolete in 2-3 years. 11) PC? Yes, of course. But, as in 10, take a look at the iPad and, indeed, most of Apple. And at the gaming consoles. And the more expensive laptops. And your fridge. You ain't gonna fix these yourself, because they want your moneys to reside in the service centers, not in your pockets. Simple as that.

[@xaros1466]

But what if... Google/Internet will never exists?

[@elkapitan75]

I do miss the full manual that comes with games on floppy disk. There were even graphics you could look at while reading, bit like a comic book. And I never called tech support because things just worked. Nowadays it's wait for an upgrade after you purchase...

[@CassandrashadowcassMorrison]

On a Windows Computer with Windows 10 Version 1809 Build 17763.55 there is a preinstalled app entitled "Tips" with a light bulb icon. It can answer many questions. One can also download a User Manual from windows10-guide.com/ If that doesn't help you either try: www.barnesandnoble.com/w/windows-10-for-dummies-andy-rathbone/1120900282#/

[@joshm264]

This video was what got me into retro tech, and I thank you so much for that!

[@asianavarrete]

I have to agree on the manuals and tech support too. Whenever you call, they just pass you down to some "genious" when really, the people get more idiotic and stupid as the phone passes down to another

[@arlindjax]

They hire people that shouldn't do tech support, now days tech support read of a manual and have no common sense. When u get someone that knows about computers to help, it's so nice... it's a learning experience for me.

[@asianavarrete]

Arlind Sadikaj Yes, agreed. I actually feel good whnever tech support is at least NICE to me, or want to help you

[@Doperooni]

Arlind Sadikaj Of course if they know what they're doing and don't follow the stupid script they run the risk of getting fired. Yay corporate logic!

[@KINGsizeWINNER]

Arlind Sadikaj The funniest is chat support: they paste blobs of text as if they don't care whether we find out they're not really putting any effort into replying to us. Atleast wait a couple of seconds so it makes it appear believable that you typed all that.

[@asianavarrete]

KINGsizeWINNER XD

[@AmigaA-or2hj]

Commodore Amigas are the best!! Contrary to popular belief, the Amiga is NOT DEAD!

[@sjarken3979]

Problem is finding one that is working and not overpriced. (europe) Wish they still made new ones.

[@scottbreon9448]

Old computers NEVER die. There's always going to be hobbyists for just about every machine...even the obscure ones

[@hipwave]

in the real long run *everyhing* fails, sadly.

[@graey1139]

I've still got my Amiga 1200 in the attic. One day I might bring it down and get all nostalgic. I took a computer class back in 1988. I told the lecturer I had an Amiga 500 and brought it in to show him. He was amazed at how much better it was than the pc's we were using in class. My first computer was a ZX Spectrum with 48k memory, 1982, £175. I'm getting to old and nostalgic.

[@ACanOfBakedBeans]

pippo spano Except dank memes, dank memes never die

[@kutluhankurt7045]

The games were more challanging and there were no microtransactions

[@PianoVideosJustForU]

+Kutluhan Kurt How about you play Super Hexagon and also play Minesweeper, is Super Hexagon easy? Does minesweeper have micro-transactions?

[@kutluhankurt7045]

I played Super Hexagon,minesweeper, but i think Boulder Dash, Super Mario Bros, Pac Man, MegaMan is more challanging. Also, today there are only a few games which are challanging, hard. Old games are all hard.

[@PianoVideosJustForU]

Kutluhan Kurt They seem pretty easy to me, but that's just me.

[@kutluhankurt7045]

i guess you never played Boulder Bash.

[@anahte4003]

+mwalsher I generally agree with you, but DOOM did hand hold the player quite a bit as well. The player barely had to aim. I understand that verticle aiming was a bit too much for the computers (since the original game wasn't even real 3D), but the player didn't really have to aim horizontally as well. The pacing and movement of the game was a lot more fun and challenging, but the aiming/shooting is a lot easier compared to modern fpshooters. Games like Painkiller and Timesplitters are a perfect mix of the styles.

[@varganyamuvek]

I do actually understand the manual one. On old computers, the hardware was designed in a way that it cannot be upgraded or changed. On modern computers however, You can change any part You would like, even the motherboard itself. Second, a lot of programming tools can be downloaded for modern PCs, but older ones only had the built in compilers.