Old Fashioned Buttermilk Biscuits - Southern Tutorials & Recipes

[@TexasBeliever57]

I just made my first biscuits & I'm 62 yrs old, I have always baked, but had never tried biscuits. I was a lazy heifer & bought store biscuits. My mama was a pastry cook for DISD for 30 yrs in Dallas, TX. She would be surprised that I made them, lol. I found your channel & you inspired me to do it. Thank you & btw, my mama would LOVE your cooking.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Yes that would make your Mama happy!

[@Vintagecomfort]

Me, too! Tammy taught me how to make biscuits at age 60! :D. Better late than never, right?

[@brendabrooks9699]

I’m trying my first batch today or tomorrow waiting on my blending fork from Amazon lol. Gonna do 🤞

[@valeriehuff8630]

I’m 62 yrs old and from San Antonio Texas. I’ll be making my first biscuits in a few minutes and I’m so excited. Thank you for the inspiration Tammy. I went online and got the blending fork and biscuit cutters from your website.❤️

[@jeanettewylie1804]

Tammy doll, you've got a gift. And it's not just cookin either. The good Lord is using you and, I wonder if you even know it. Keep cookin doll, doin just fine😁😘

[@jennifergray5499]

Jeanette....you are so sweet. What a nice thing to say. Have a great day... from the West coast😘

[@carolsmith9675]

Hey Tammy just like Mama made with Crisco and love! She always had a huge pan of sausage gravy to go with them! Nothing like Mama's cooking! 😘

[@michaelhooyman4453]

I always use Crisco and butter milk, but I made my biscuits this morning with Blue Bonnet instead of Crisco, for the first time and they tasted great....

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Oh yes butter is GOOD!

[@patc.318]

Hi Tammy! Who doesn't love a good biscuit!? Here it is almost 1 AM & I'm ready to head to the kitchen and whip up a batch of biscuits after watching this video! Have made biscuits more often after watching your tutorials. My crew says the biscuits are light & fluffier. We all enjoy them! Thanks for another video, y'all!

[@IMOO1896]

I had forgotten about mixing butter and syrup, memories of my dad!

[@gerribearden9290]

Nice memories.

[@nanashouse202]

When my children were growing I made biscuits 3 times a day. I haven’t made them in years. Watching your tutorial makes me want to make a small batch. I have butter and molasses. I even have hot pepper jelly.

[@danieledwards8779]

Me too, nana, I thought of my mom too. 😢🥰

[@QueenGoddessYume]

I love biscuits! My grandfather raised sugar cane and made molasses. We always put some in a bowl with butter then set in in the oven to warm. Best memorie are delicious!❣

[@collincollier1239]

I'm goin to attempt to make my first batch of biscuits using this video! I'll let y'all know how they turn out!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Please do!

[@TerriePerry-jj8te]

@@CollardValleyCooks i would love to see tbat

[@bernicedavenport1142]

I am working on the “ tuck and roll “ looks easy when you do it!

[@jaceeluvs2sew]

I made your buttermilk biscuits but I had no buttermilk so I substituted it with cream of tarter and milk. They were so good. Thanks Tammy for your recipes.❤️🐈🐕🐓✝️❤️

[@christineh7997]

OMG...mixing the butter in the syrup brings back such fond childhood memories. I would open my biscuit, butter it and mix in a pat of butter in some ALGA syrup! 😋🤤😋 ALGA is very sweet and thick and need the butter to cut the sweetness. I also liked biscuits with peach preserve, apricot preserve or gravy...delicious comfort food! And have some fried chicken or salmon croquettes with it..OMG, OMG, OMG...I can’t eat like that anymore...but OMG it was good, good, good eating! YUM!🤤😋🤤

[@pattie5994]

Awesome tutorial 💗 you make them just like my mom did..my husband has been begging me to make him some bisquits and dumplins..we love watching y.all..i found your videos a week or so ago..trying to find out how to make scalded bread he wants..i had never heard of it .Thanks for all your great videos..💗

[@Catlady1210]

Exactly how momma taught me to make biscuits . We alw as ts had molasses, homemade apple butter she had made up or honey! I also love a good marmalade. My daddy always mixed his molasses with butter and then I started doing it. Yummy. One time I didn't have buttermilk so I used a bit of sour cream and a little lemon seltzer water and my husband asked what did you do to the biscuits and I thought, oh no that trick was a fail but now I make em that way if we are out of buttermilk and have sour cream and seltzer water on hand ! Made a very fluffy soft biscuit. I love your channel. 💜🦋💜

[@CollardValleyCooks]

That is thinking on your feet!

[@Mary-cg1sl]

I thought my father was the only one who mixed his molasses with butter!

[@blayne2029]

Excellent tutorial. Your biscuit recipe is my family's favorite!

[@sherryherrera7367]

I did it for the first time all by myself, my family is so impressed, thank you so much 😍

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Way to go!

[@patriciasheppard2149]

Those biscuits look awesome. So fluffy and yummy. As a kid I mixed my butter with syrup too ! Was the best. I enjoy your videos 🥰🙏🏻

[@garystrittmater8258]

I was a Competitive Chuckwagon cook about 20 years ago and I sure could have used this technique/recipe for making biscuits, sounds likeca real winner!❤❤❤🤜🤛👌👍

[@GeeBee111]

I have those same Pyrex bowls, a set of three, I've had them for at least 40 years and I still use them almost every day, and especially for my baked goods. Just made biscuits this morning to go along with a wonderful jar of honey that my neighbor gifted me! Yummy!

[@shaylaster1607]

Do you know what size bowl she is using in this video?

[@quiltfreak64]

Those look just like my mommas . yummy. I miss her so bad.

[@laineywright2696]

My grandma called that syrup and butter mixture, Old House Stir. Thanks for the memories and the video.

[@dianegraham2546]

I mix my butter with honey. When I lived in NC we used sourwood honey from the mountains. So so yummy!!

[@alicesmith7913]

Aint nothing any better than a hot(right out of the oven) homemade buttermilk biscuit! You just gotta learn how the dough is supposed to feel in your hands. Trust me, I was taught early in my life on proper Biscuit making but things are different now and our ways of doing things seem almost like a lost art.

[@negringo4470]

I'm trying to preserve that lost art friend ...100 % agreed .

[@robreyescosme6902]

Butter, honey and a cup of coffee... can't get better than that...

[@JV-od7wv]

Tammy, you are such a good teacher. You explain everything so well and tell us why we should do something this way and not the other. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos.

[@HanokVillage]

오늘도 비스켓 만드는 영상 잘 보고 갑니다. 행복한 한주 보내세요! Have a nice week tammy!

[@ruthjohnson8665]

My husband’s grandma was raised during this depression. She said they would sneak a biscuit & stick their thumb in the side. Then pour syrup in & eat it as a treat. She’s was a Godly woman & was a blessing to everyone. God bless. Memau in Georgia

[@aprilteesdale3146]

I just made these biscuits and they were awesome! Bacon on one, and jelly on the other, lol Thanks Tammy, I thought of my mom the entire time I made and ate them

[@edgewatersbestguitarist1524]

Hadn't made a batch of biscuits with my mom in years, had to look up a recipe! Lol these looked almost perfect but then you rolled them out w more flour and cut them out. I was always told you don't roll the dough out for biscuits (mama called 'em hockey pucks then lol) only dumplings, just spoon some fat globs of that sticky dough into a buttered pan and they'll make the softest golden buttery angels of biscuits that aren't powdery dry on the outsides 👍

[@jzm6403]

My mother made Biscuits from Crisco, self rising flour and homemade buttermilk. Very easy and quick. I've made them several different ways and their always great. I prefer butter to Crisco and whole buttermilk. I sometimes put in 2 flat teaspoons of brown sugar without telling my wife just to see what she says. You can't really taste the sugar but it does give it a certain flavor thats just...hmmm thats a good biscuit. I sometimes use parchment paper too in a regular pan to get a bit of a crispy bottom. I've learned not to overwork the dough and they rise just fine. Thanks for posting..

[@austinpresley6187]

Thank you sir for answering a question I thought of. I wondered if you could substitute butter for shortening.

[@lindanelson360]

Sugar helps them brown too.

[@RandeT73]

My mom used to make biscuits n gravy all the time. Probably one of the first things I learned to make. Do you have a recipe for pepper jelly? Or Chow Chow?

[@CollardValleyCooks]

I have not made a recipe for them yet

[@RandeT73]

@@CollardValleyCooks Thank you for responding. I'm looking for a good recipe to make them that don't have onions as I have a new onion allergy. My husband says don't worry about it, we can live without it. But we enjoy them. So I thought I could make my own one day.

[@denisedale6205]

I did these this morning...so easy & quick...also delicious...thank you👍

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Glad you like them!

[@juss4kxx742]

I just made your biscuit recipe.Its the first time I’ve made from scratch biscuits and I’m 49.I forgot to add the soda until I already combined my dough but they were the best I’ve ever made.I can’t wait to do them again.I don’t eat biscuits,but my family loves them.I have tried most of your recipes and hands down they remind me of my childhood!!!I tell everyone I know.Im actually making cookbooks for my kids and I’m definitely sharing several of your recipes 💙

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Great job!

[@keishamurrell3095]

I Love ❤ Your videos! We used to and still eat ours with Alaga syrup. I was pleasantly surprised that you mentioned cantaloupe. We used to have it with cottage cheese. 😋👍

[@sammyelliott5554]

Excellent video. I will give this a try to improve my biscuit technique.

[@kathypowell5737]

Try using grandma molasses. 😋😋😋😋

[@susanhunter900]

I made these with white lily flour and Tammy you are a winner in my book I moved to the south in 1976 and have been trying all these years to make a good biscuit my daughter says I finally have done it ty Tammy. I also did the biscuit mix and the pancakes will never do them any other way I don't know if mama did or Tammy did but you both are winners in my book

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Awesome!

[@debbiereilly900]

Buttermilk biscuits with honey and butter nothing better period..... I can smell them baking yummy. Thank you for another great recipe. 🌸💮💮💙💜💛🧡🐦💚🌼🌻💖🙏❤🥰😊💐

[@shaylaster1607]

That’s how my late pawpaw liked his biscuits ♥️

[@beanetricemcdaniel6853]

Hello I just taught myself how to make biscuits and still learning other methods on baking them. Watching lots and lots of videos does help. I never tried white lily right now it’s hard to find and a little out of my budget. But others taste the same to me. And I was not raised on homemade biscuits (store brands only ). Your the first person to mention to shift it. Thanks I will try next time.

[@bonniebrown6960]

Those were some pretty biscuits Miss Tammy !! Do you always cut your biscuits out or do you roll them out by hand too ? I use to kid around and say ... I think it's got something to do with that bowl Granny has . My uncle Bob laughed and agreed with me . Maybe I was right after all ? 😜 🤗 I told my husband that I was going to go back and start practicing and making biscuits . I want that to be some good memories for my kids and grandchildren to remember and I want to make sure that I teach them how to make biscuits too . My mama never would help me , but I want that to change for my children and grandchildren . Oh and BTW , I love mixing my syrup with butter too just like your husband. My grandfather taught me that a long time ago and I've just away done it that way . LOL !! . Thank you Miss Tammy for showing us how to make biscuits !! Love you and God bless !!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

I usually cut them but I do have videos where I roll them

[@Rollwithit699]

I LOVE my blending fork. It works wonderfully in a Pyrex bowl. I use butter as i think hydrogenated shortening in only good for squeaky doors and rough heels. Butter works wonderfully.

[@thedriver146]

And that blending fork is wonderful!

[@roxeyserckie5414]

As a kid, we mixed our syrup with butter for biscuits or just swiped bread in it sometimes. Yum Childhood memories!

[@lorrainebaldridge568]

I made biscuits and sausage gravy this morning. 2nd time making biscuits following your tutorials. Thank you for sharing your videos.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Glad you are using the recipe!

[@sierra565]

These look similar to the biscuits my granny makes. She, however, isn't a woman of measurements so it was always hard for me to replicate. I just tried these and they turned out PERFECTLY. Can't wait to make them for her and see how she likes them.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Awesome!

[@lablea]

My grandmother mixed butter into her honey, delicious❣️

[@Stephenrsm7600]

I LOVE these biscuits!!! Thanks for the step by step recipe!!!

[@susiem8055]

Best biscuit recipe ever. Had to start a Collard Valley playlist so I can find your recipes fast when I’m not at home. I guess I need to travel with your cookbooks.

[@judystites9575]

We always had butter milk biscuits and my dad would put the top in his coffee

[@patnewton4191]

We grew up mixing the butter and syrup 😜

[@YorkieMomtoo]

I do mine the same way Chris does!! I’m gonna attempt to make my first homemade biscuits using your recipe, tonight!!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Hope you enjoy

[@YorkieMomtoo]

It bombed😭😭😭! I’ve watched your video about 50 times now and about to try try again!! I told my husband he’d just have to eat “duds” until I can get it right!

[@nanarocks699]

Got great price on White Lily and Butter flavored Crisco from webstanrant placed in mylar bags 90 lbs , good for about year. Made biscuits this morning turned out perfect, rose up tall and pretty,no more store brought biscuits for this house it was too easily thanks so much Tammy love all your tutorials.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Sounds great!

[@beverlybilbrey7815]

We can’t get White Lily here in west TX so I ordered from Amazon and my biscuits came out perfect! Thanks for your tips. You are a wonderful cook!

[@johnniekilgore9413]

You can also use King Arthur Self rising flour. It is made from the same kind of wheat and works like Whit Lily flour. You can find King Arthur Self rising flour at Wal-Mart here in Texas.

[@connieodom9124]

Mama made biscuits with lard in a wood cook stove. With home churned butter and molasses. They were beyond delicious. Didn't have sliced bread till high school. Lordy I'm old.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Chris likes the lard ones too

[@fellaguy7752]

Every time you make a biscuit making video I just love em all, Tammy!

[@te2952]

I have tried to make biscuits for years. I tried Tammy's way, and my biscuits turned out delicious. I also got the blending fork she uses. The blending fork is amazing, and I couldn't live without it. Listen to Tammy, and your biscuits will be amazing, I promise. Thank you Tammy, they taste just like my Mamaw's biscuits! Love them. From: TN.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Great job!

[@jeremypowell9648]

Thank you so much. I grew up in Hazlehurst and got a lot of my momma’s recipes but didn’t get her biscuit recipe before she passed. This is just like hers. Thank you so much!

[@JV-od7wv]

I’m 69 and have always appreciated a good biscuit. I used Bisquick to make drop biscuits. Today I tried your recipe and oh my goodness! The others don’t even compare and these are just as easy. They are delishcious! Thank you for not only sharing the recipe but for “showing “ us how to make them. Mmm, mmm, mmm😋.

[@debbiedeal5937]

Tammy, those biscuits are just beautiful. I'm drooling just looking at them and imagining how they taste. My Pawpaw mashed up blackstrap molasses and butter good, and spread it on the half biscuit like Chris likes his. He used to love it, with a cup of coffee. I love biscuits & cornbread (with whole buttermilk and slathered in real butter when done) better than just about any food! Just bought me a 5 lb. bag of self-rising White Lilly cornmeal off Amazon. Am going to make me some cornbread tomorrow. I've been in the mood for it for too long!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Sounds good Debbie!

[@karenyaw-mcadoo2290]

My daddy always did his Golden eagle syrup and butter like that on biscuits. Sweet memories.

[@charlenecole1840]

Can’t get White Lily Flour in Oklahoma... would like to try it in my biscuits 🤔

[@Music963]

Charlene Cole I was just informed in the live chat of this video as I wait for the It to start . I live in Las Vegas and we can order it from Walmart online and have it shipped to us, from Tammy and Kimberly in the chat !!!

[@lindastuart8787]

I want some of that syrup we use to use it in Louisiana.

[@nanashouse202]

I make the best with Hudson cream flour. When I visit WV I usually bring some home with me.

[@roberthicks4794]

Oh yes,,, made these this morning. Used Butter instead of crisco.. This will be my “go to” biscuit from now on. Many thanks..

[@barbarabaker5067]

My daddy ate syrup with butter and biscuits after his meals❣️

[@evelynfoster2706]

My mother in law mixed her butter with the jelly or honey like Chris does.

[@bonnielee3608]

My grandma did the butter and molasses stirred together

[@christineh7997]

I love seeing you make biscuits! They look soo deliciously-delicious! 😋 🤤 YUM-YUMM!

[@annhendrick8681]

I roll mine out by hand just like in your other video I watched this morning. Love CVC

[@Donamtrx]

I'm not makin biscuits...I just wanna watch you do it!😍

[@jeremypowell9648]

Hey Tammy! Once you make extra biscuits and freeze them. How long and at what temp do you cook them? Thanks so much for all your videos!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

I never freeze them. The recipe is in collardvalleycooks.com for you.

[@sandraconko4647]

When I was growing up in the 1940's mama used Ballard flour. The "Oblisk" flour. Haven't seen it in years and years.

[@pattipollitt5554]

These biscuits look so good. I have several iron skillets that belonged to my Mom and Dad. I don't use them because I don't know how to care for them. Would you please make a video on how to care for iron skillets? Thank you so much

[@toscadonna]

I bought your blending fork and those nice measuring spoons back in 2019, and today I finally pulled them out and made biscuits for my Mom with them. She has no clue that they’re baking in the oven right now. She’s gonna be so excited. Secret Saturday Biscuits!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Sounds great!

[@mrsangelleah1981]

@@CollardValleyCooksI’m new to making your delicious biscuits and dumplings, etc. I’m 41 and I’m just learning to do it and feel so happy about it because my mom always did it and never had a chance to teach me. I’m sure in heaven, she is glad to see I am making them just like mama did. Ha ha.❤ I am wanting to make biscuits for my family and they live 20 minutes away. Can I get the biscuits ready and put them in a pan and cover them and stick them in the oven when I get to their house and them be just as good? Also, I would really just love it if you would make biscuits with sausage or bacon grease because people are always wanting them to taste like Hardee’s. The Hardee’s biscuits taste very meaty. Any advice on how to do that? I’m thinking it will change the consistency. Thank you so much! Please keep making videos.

[@mrsangelleah1981]

My heart desires a buttery knockoff meaty Hardee’s biscuit. Lol

[@CollardValleyCooks]

@@mrsangelleah1981 yes 20 min they will still be good. I am glad to hear the video's are helping. You may like using lard for that taste instead of crisco or butter.

[@pattic.2975]

Hi Tammy! Only after just a few times, I'm an expert biscuit maker, thanks to the BEST You Tube University Professor! I just received my biscuit cutters, my fork will be here soon, just in time to make another batch! Keep up your fun videos! Thanks again!

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Wonderful!

[@peach3611]

I make my biscuits with only White Lily Flour too. The best biscuits ever.

[@angievance8538]

That’s the way I do my syrup there’s nothing no better than good old home biscuit gravy

[@butterbeanization]

I have trouble with getting it (the dough) too dry when kneading and rolling them out. Almost need to have them a little too wet when you turn them out on the board.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Yes remember you will be adding a little flour when you knead them

[@TanyaP822]

Thank y'all for sharing. I can do this...👍

[@CollardValleyCooks]

I know you can LaTanya because you are an Atlanta Girl!

[@vickiekelly7479]

Cinnamon butter or honey butter - maybe both!

[@HOCKMAN1981]

Can u bake them also? You like shortening or butter?

[@pamelaparsons9046]

T, can I used sweet milk if I don’t have buttermilk?

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Yes

[@pamelaparsons9046]

T, your the best. I make these and they come out perfect. I really like that you show us how to do it.

[@pamelaparsons9046]

Also, hubby can’t stop eating them. He said these are the best biscuits he’s ever had and he’s not a fan of them cause he’s says they are too dry. But these are moist and tasty. I made them in a cast iron pan. I used sweet milk cause unfortunately no buttermilk. They rise beautifully. Techniques are key to cooking.

[@dietrevich]

They look soo good!! But 20 mins at 450F? Aren't they dry? I've always cooked them for no more than 12 mins, but usually 10 mins at 400F. Do they still remain moist?

[@CollardValleyCooks]

They are perfect but you can vary the time if you like

[@ItsMefromSnuffys]

Ive gone back to lard

[@cynthiaamitrano8915]

You are making me hungry, lady. Time to think about dinner.

[@mariaybarra9392]

Where in the world can I find White Lilly flour?

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Try Kroger.com

[@sandraconko4647]

I did not know I was supposed to put them in a hot skillet. Now I know what I am doing wrong.

[@CollardValleyCooks]

You do not HAVE to but it helps

[@deborahcincotta3600]

This is the same way my mother made her bread she didn't make biscuits out of it she flattened it out in a square pan in a circle and baked it was delicious never knew the recipe but this is close ill give it a try

[@vodnurse5702]

Here’s a tip if you are single like me, or perhaps only have a spouse to cook for. I felt like it was really wasteful to get that much buttermilk when I was only making small amounts of biscuits, but what I do now is to freeze the buttermilk in 3/4 cup portions in quart size Ziploc freezer bags. Squeeze out as much air as you can, and lay them flat on a cookie sheet and freeze them that way. Now that I have made biscuits Tammy’s way, I simply must have buttermilk on hand all the time! Also need to try her buttermilk pie!

[@fancygirl822]

I just bought volumes 1&2 of your cook books looking forward to cooking some of the recipes ♡♡

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Awesome thank you!

[@jeanneshull8488]

I'm from Lexington ,South Carolina. My momma and grandmothers used Adluh Flour made right here in Columbia, SC. Biscuits were made with crisco and milk/buttermilk and we sopped them in Alaga syrup or mixed butter in the syrup like your Chris likes it. Basically the same just different brands. Those were some good times if we had extra biscuits after supper sopping one in syrup was out dessert. The 60's were the best time for home cooking in my opinion.

[@reginaparker663]

Tammy I bought your cook book and watch your videos I have your biscuits down packed and the other day I cooked collards just the way you did and they turned out perfect thank you so much your videos help so much now I can make gravy from my grease drippings but can't master your white gravy will you do another video on that please

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Yayyy Regina!

[@TheHappyJack.1]

My Mom always used Karo Syrup and butter...yum

[@datamaker1]

Tammy, my husband and I, when cantaloupes are good and sweet, fix good fat meat gravy, homemade biscuits and cantaloupe. The best breakfast ever.

[@jackiehoyle510]

Nothing like mamas homemade biscuits thanks

[@mawmaw203]

What makes the biscuits hard on top instead of soft and tender. I use exactly the same amount of everything you use except I put baking powder in my instead of baking soda. My mama made them just like you do. Could it be the powder and not putting the extra soda?

[@CollardValleyCooks]

My flour is self rising so it has the powder and salt. I would think that they haven't been dusted with flour well if they are hard? Not exactly sure, I don't think it is the powder. Make sure you are not making shortening to small too.

[@indigohalo3421]

That's how my grandma made them..she had a wooden bowl..she kept flour in the bowl..then she added the buttermilk..i never could get them to rise like she did..we ate them with pure cane syrup..oh..i forgot..she mixed it with her fingers..then squeezed them out..between her thumb and fore fingers..lol hard to explain..

[@TerriePerry-jj8te]

I need to knoŵ how make them

[@lilamoore1687]

Hi Miss Tammy my name is Lila Moore from Kentucky. Just watch ur video on the Earthquake Cake an I am gonna bake it. Im gonna get ur recipe books soon I luv finding them. Urs I know I will wear them out making good southern comfort foods. Im gonna press the like button an subscribe to ur channel. Take Care an B Safe. BELATED MERRY CHRISTMAS AN A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO U AN UR FAMILY..

[@MamaLiam]

Those look like what moma cooked and ear them with cane syrup and butter mixed together.

[@LandNfan]

I remember my granddad eating biscuits with sorghum molasses and butter. If he didn’t have sorghum, he would use dark Karo syrup. Biscuits are one thing I have never had much luck with, but I will have to try again with your technique. I can’t remember seeing a White Lily flour in stores around here in southern Indiana, but I can get Martha White. Do you think the butter-flavored Crisco would work?

[@CollardValleyCooks]

Yes the butter flavored Crisco is good

[@jeffcsimpson]

Most of my friends don’t even know what table syrup is. I grew up on King Syrup and now I will have to try Golden Eagle. I know this video is not about syrup so sorry.