Old Guy REACTS to JINJER - PISCES | Composer Point of View

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Key of Geebz

Key of Geebz

Күн бұрын

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@KeyOfGeebz
@KeyOfGeebz 3 жыл бұрын
Well look what I found while doing some research - just released yesterday too!! "How Jinjer's Tatiana Shmayluk Learned to Scream" kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3PVooqPgqegbJI
@EZMETAL
@EZMETAL 3 жыл бұрын
You have to check them alive, there are a recent concert they did, Strandkorb Open Air 2020, that there's almost no effects (just a few reverb and delay maybe) in Tatiana's voice. Worth a check! Great react and yes, the drummer is just fantastic!
@EZMETAL
@EZMETAL 3 жыл бұрын
Here the Strandkorb video kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIfakoCEqdyggZI
@ThePandaMike
@ThePandaMike 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Most vocalists do this naturally and Tatiana is one of the next level females doing this with very little effort after all the practice she’s out in. Loooooooved your reaction to one of my favorite songs.
@murphyoconnor12
@murphyoconnor12 3 жыл бұрын
She got her screaming from otep shamaya
@bigrob966
@bigrob966 3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome you went looking. You gotta check out OTEP for one of the OG female growlers.
@goforit7595
@goforit7595 4 жыл бұрын
3:58 Geebz: "I was expecting like a rock kind of a......." Me: *giggles
@ManSubhu
@ManSubhu 4 жыл бұрын
No, no you weren't. :p
@MumbyHitsDrums
@MumbyHitsDrums 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny. I thought the same thing, "giggles" when he said that and knowing what was coming when he resumed play, lol.
@evana4622
@evana4622 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at 6:45 am on a Monday, I'm sure my neighbors think I'm insane
@donkrodinger2353
@donkrodinger2353 4 жыл бұрын
ROFL. exactly. "I was expecting like a rock kind of..... 4 seconds go by..... RAAAAWWWWWWR"
@levischorpioen
@levischorpioen 3 жыл бұрын
It really never gets old, huh? xD
@Andy-th9kj
@Andy-th9kj 4 жыл бұрын
"We're probably gonna get into the hook soon" Everyone - "LOL you don't even know"
@tekmepikcha6830
@tekmepikcha6830 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@emersonagudelo1298
@emersonagudelo1298 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣 Indeed... 🤘
@nephilymbass1
@nephilymbass1 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@SergioLazaroMartinez
@SergioLazaroMartinez 3 жыл бұрын
Pleased to have given your 666th like. Enjoy it Andy, well deserved.
@Andy-th9kj
@Andy-th9kj 3 жыл бұрын
@@SergioLazaroMartinez \m/>.
@Ghoulstille
@Ghoulstille 3 жыл бұрын
It's always amusing to see people's faces when she turns on the growl.
@skaisnotdead
@skaisnotdead 3 жыл бұрын
It's the best omg
@evenamber
@evenamber 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, everyone is always blown away by that
@parrarides4504
@parrarides4504 3 жыл бұрын
Even myself every time I here this song I get the goosebumps
@maRanTCaseYga237
@maRanTCaseYga237 3 жыл бұрын
I know right!. Did that to my mom. "That's a girl!" This isnt their heavier songs. [Better songs for sure]
@MetaFootballTV
@MetaFootballTV 3 жыл бұрын
What a waste.
@that-avr-drummer
@that-avr-drummer 3 жыл бұрын
We played with them in Providence, it's her voice, no effects. Of course there's post production here, but live she pulls it off
@HaqimHimself
@HaqimHimself 3 жыл бұрын
Whats your band man
@that-avr-drummer
@that-avr-drummer 3 жыл бұрын
@@HaqimHimself at that time On Your Deathbed
@dominikweber4305
@dominikweber4305 3 жыл бұрын
I saw them in munich, was a legendary show
@Kholdaimon
@Kholdaimon 3 жыл бұрын
Well, there are effects, even live... They add reverb to fatten the sound of her voice, most, if not all, growlers do that... It is her voice, but without the effect it wouldn't have the intensity... Which is fine btw, as long as it sounds good, IMO....
@that-avr-drummer
@that-avr-drummer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kholdaimon Well, of course there's some effects from the soundboard, every singer and band has that, but what I was getting at is that a lot of people tend to think that she can only growl with effects pedals and what not which isn't true. I had the pleasure of watching her run through her various growls backstage before they went on and believe me she can growl with the best of them!! Now there are some singers like Tim from V.O.D. and Maynard from TOOL that actually utilize pedal boards w/ effects pedals but she definitely did not.
@bronwen4693
@bronwen4693 3 жыл бұрын
My new hobby is watching people react to Tatiana’s awesomeness...
@robertmurray7018
@robertmurray7018 2 жыл бұрын
Mine too, especially love it when they pause it to react just before the first change
@mathickling223
@mathickling223 4 жыл бұрын
"This singer has a beautiful voice..." "I was expecting a rock kind of a..." 10/10 for perfect lines in a first time reaction video before that drop hahaha
@alexisbarrette7652
@alexisbarrette7652 3 жыл бұрын
Famous last words lol
@ouroborosrecords
@ouroborosrecords 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see a reaction video for Jinger - Pisces, I watch. One of my favorite pastimes is getting people who don't listen to metal to watch this.
@snrp0169
@snrp0169 3 жыл бұрын
AGREED
@laszloszekely3406
@laszloszekely3406 3 жыл бұрын
and this is what im doing the last 2 hours :D
@1of9everytime38
@1of9everytime38 4 жыл бұрын
Jinjer Perennial live at Wacken that will let you know everything you need to know
@dwarvensmith80
@dwarvensmith80 4 жыл бұрын
Also the official live video of Who Is Gonna Be The One...and if there's still doubt, Judgement (&Punishment) one take vocal performance.
@Fenthule
@Fenthule 4 жыл бұрын
I would actually say the perennial version from their newest show posted from Australia before Covid hit. Her vocals are easier to hear and she does a PHENOMENAL job at that show showcasing what she can do.
@OsirisNeits
@OsirisNeits 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Teacher, Teacher.
@Shake69ification
@Shake69ification 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a great recommendation. She switches from guttural to clean more rapidly.
@stoppelstobbe5208
@stoppelstobbe5208 4 жыл бұрын
yas boi thats so good
@batz9100
@batz9100 3 жыл бұрын
Her scream is just naturally that good!
@persephonehughes9959
@persephonehughes9959 3 жыл бұрын
"I was expecting like a rock kind of..." I literally said "Just wait my dude" out loud
@stephenknox2346
@stephenknox2346 4 жыл бұрын
No effects beyond what is normally used for cleans. Reverb, chorus, track doubling, etc. I've seen them live several times and have been close enough to hear her without coming through the PA. She is a vocal monster, check out Judgement and Punishment one take to see it in an isolated studio setting, or Retrospection live to see it on stage. Amazing band too, Eugene is one of my favorite bassists in the game.
@Drath__
@Drath__ 4 жыл бұрын
Here are her unprocessed vocals a couple minutes in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2eYZnyvqbCDpM0
@jinjerjunkie
@jinjerjunkie 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I would say the post processing on this version affects her clean vocals more than her harsh vocals.
@auto1nfanticid3
@auto1nfanticid3 4 жыл бұрын
theres totally effects. you can hear two diff voices in her scream
@stephenknox2346
@stephenknox2346 4 жыл бұрын
@@auto1nfanticid3 That is just track doubling, it highlights the over and undertones. Exactly the same as the cleans. I'm sure she had a hidden effects unit wired into her throat when I was standing 10 feet away from her.
@auto1nfanticid3
@auto1nfanticid3 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenknox2346 i have heard her raw vocals, it isnt this. yes she is screaming, no it doesnt sound like that naturally. also reverb and other effects can be added at the mixing board of a live concert, they dont require anything directly attached to the mic. you even admit there is studio magic done here so i dont know what youre on about. if track doubling is an effect to make a voice sound fuller (it is) then she is using effects to achieve this sound. shes a great vocalist but no one achieves these sounds naturally, female or otherwise.
@christoph6879
@christoph6879 3 жыл бұрын
watching jinjer reactions never get boring
@richk2690
@richk2690 3 жыл бұрын
The bit that everyone forgets is, English isn’t even her first language. Really makes it so much more impressive.
@TSotP
@TSotP 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not actually that sure it is... I mean, it is, but listen to a band like ABBA or Ramstein speaking and they have heavy accents. Singing seems to totally remove any real influence from accents. And how many weebs out there can sing the full Japanese intro to their favourite Anime and not understand a single word of what they are saying? (same goes for English speaking Ramstein fans as well)
@1WEareBUFO1
@1WEareBUFO1 3 жыл бұрын
Don't rely on me and I won't deceive.
@GoalOrientedLifting
@GoalOrientedLifting 3 жыл бұрын
It's not that impressive. English is my second language, and i talk with a decent accent. But can sing, easily without it
@danjackson1016
@danjackson1016 3 жыл бұрын
Not really to be honest. There's a ridiculous amount of non native English speaking singers and bangs. Just from the metal scene you've got opeth, avatar and gojira that spring to mind but I'm sure there'll be more that I can't think of/ just don't know aren't native speakers.
@leakifolog
@leakifolog 3 жыл бұрын
@@TSotP Singing and speaking use different parts of the the brain. There are people with brain injuries that can no longer speak yet can still sing. The accent in English singing - mostly converging on a North America rhotic sound independent of native accent - is a cultural phenomenon owing to the prevalence of recorded music and other media produced in North America.
@devileanblack
@devileanblack 3 жыл бұрын
Him: I was expecting like a rock kind of... Jinjer: How about some molten lava metal...
@brianmentzel2637
@brianmentzel2637 Жыл бұрын
That's the truest description.
@JMulvy
@JMulvy 3 жыл бұрын
The guitar pedal kicks and Tatiana flips his whole world upside down. LMAO! "Pisces swimming through the river, all their life against the stream. Searching for a hook to catch on, to see their sun beam and suffocate in painful torture. On cutting tables of callous men, under the knife of handsome butchers. Emeralds are ripped away, Emeralds are Ripped Away, EMERALDS ARE RIPPED AWAY, EMERALDS ARE RIPPED AWAAAAAAAY!" ❤️💙💜😍💜💙❤️
@sportscardsplus318
@sportscardsplus318 4 жыл бұрын
Devin Townsend "Kingdom" Live for EMG TV. The rabbit whole runs deep with him. Unbelievable musician and producer. . Steve Vai discovered him 30 years ago. You will be pleasantly surprised
@adamp2056
@adamp2056 4 жыл бұрын
He is a beast. " watch me shred this solo" Plays a single chord
@Olorin13
@Olorin13 4 жыл бұрын
Good choice, I would like to hear his thoughts on that one too. Also this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqOnfmmMZZ2qmac
@grungegrumpy3585
@grungegrumpy3585 4 жыл бұрын
Try the Retinal Circus version for a first reaction, for a change. From a composition pov that offers so many more layers (!) than the EMGTV rendition.
@BlackDeathThrash
@BlackDeathThrash 4 жыл бұрын
DO NOT DO THE EMGTV video, do the official live video for the song. It is so much better with the full band.
@andycollins4936
@andycollins4936 4 жыл бұрын
@spomajom As a composer, I would prefer for him to look at Genesis, Higher or something from Deconstruction like The Mighty Masturbator. Kingdom is great as a vocal but it's composition is fairly simple.
@cstiger4
@cstiger4 4 жыл бұрын
Jinjer in one word - "goosebumps"
@Batchelli
@Batchelli 3 жыл бұрын
Tati has such control over her voice it's amazing.
@FatalPurpose
@FatalPurpose 3 жыл бұрын
10:20 "The drummer..." Vlad is an absolute monster!!! Fun fact, the band actually filmed this video to highlight Vlad joining the band as the original track of Pisces didn't have all of the ghost notes and other flare he brought to this live session version. Because of the way this song is structured though - the soft, gentle intro/verse into that explosive chorus - this video is what got them to really explode in popularity. Love the videos buddy, best of wishes to you! Edit: Also, that is Tatiana's real voice! I've seen them live and they put on one of the best concerts I've ever seen!
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy 3 жыл бұрын
That's super cool, because I love the drummer's work on this song.
@Nalianna
@Nalianna 2 жыл бұрын
You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Жыл бұрын
The video is amazing and really shows how good they all are.
@binxosaurus
@binxosaurus 3 жыл бұрын
I love it, LOVE IT when musicians react to this song, because they recognize the drums and bass are killing it. I mean yes, the vocals are also top notch, but this WHOLE BAND has got some talent.
@KeyOfGeebz
@KeyOfGeebz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Terah! 🤙🤙
@WorldsOkayestGuitarDemos
@WorldsOkayestGuitarDemos 4 жыл бұрын
“I can feel the hook is coming” Bwahaha...
@Skraeling1000
@Skraeling1000 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't a hook. Its a 10 kiloton grapple!
@jonathanbeck5765
@jonathanbeck5765 3 жыл бұрын
"I can feel the hook coming" Me: more like a round house kick
@SpeedOfThought1111
@SpeedOfThought1111 3 жыл бұрын
VIRGIN INNOCENCE!!
@Kodanikage
@Kodanikage 4 жыл бұрын
No effects, just Tatiana summoning demons from the depth of little metal soul. React to Jinjer's Perennial Live from Wacken and you'll see what I mean.
@lesseroun0
@lesseroun0 4 жыл бұрын
Actually there are effects added, but not much, just little bit of "chorus" effect sometimes. Perennial at Wacken rocks!!
@enabId
@enabId 4 жыл бұрын
@@lesseroun0 I watched another vocal coach react to this and he said that there were only minor reverb effects on the mic. Just giving her voice a little extra power, but otherwise all her. This was a Live Session too which is crazy for all the instrumentation.
@bccr13
@bccr13 4 жыл бұрын
no effects is total bs. nothing wrong with it but to deny it is naive
@UncleTrog
@UncleTrog 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the band have said that there is some doubling (chorus) and a bit of distortion added on this version. Live she just has some doubling.
@lesseroun0
@lesseroun0 4 жыл бұрын
@@enabId Exactly m8, Reverb is more precisely said. and we can hear efect when tatiana sings :"I grew in different normality", and also in second chorus words "blaze virgin innocence" .. "brings life" word "world" in underworld is also enchanced. We can hear reverb every time Tatiana's voice splits in many.
@rtek777
@rtek777 3 жыл бұрын
There's no effects. Thats all her. She does it live and she is among the best with her vocal ability
@zambomaan
@zambomaan 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen her live and she definitely growls perfectly then as well, but this particular recording definitely has effects to amplify the experience (which of course is no problem, it sounds very cool). At some points in the screams you can for instance hear two or more different screams layered on top of each other (example: 7:32 in this video, the high note scream is two completely different screams layered). In the bridge section they also double her clean vocals, which is another effect, which again is a cool addition
@martinnikolov38
@martinnikolov38 3 жыл бұрын
She’s still got a fresh voice. Over the next decade you’ll see it fade which is sad bad we will always appreciate it
@HenriqueErzinger
@HenriqueErzinger 3 жыл бұрын
@@martinnikolov38 if you do it right, with proper technique, growls do not damage your voice. The fact she can go straight back into clean vocals without strains is evidence of proper technique.
@joaoaugustolandim
@joaoaugustolandim 10 ай бұрын
@@zambomaan Yeah. Mixing effects. But what he meant was that it has no effects to make it seems like she's growling. She's really growling because she has the technique.
@Plhoracio
@Plhoracio 3 жыл бұрын
The gutural is natural, Tatiana is killing it!
@alexiz.7569
@alexiz.7569 3 жыл бұрын
Tatiana is a legend, she sound like this live also
@rehannoor4961
@rehannoor4961 4 жыл бұрын
You are probably the only reactor I never skip the comments section.
@KeyOfGeebz
@KeyOfGeebz 4 жыл бұрын
Man, thanks - 🤙🤙
@paulmassey9284
@paulmassey9284 4 жыл бұрын
She has a natural voice. I was lucky to see them live last year and at 56 years old i have seen a lot of metal bands.this was one of the best.
@paulmassey9284
@paulmassey9284 4 жыл бұрын
@Lauren Fazenbaker wow you got a high five. I was down the front and got some good pics.
@paulmassey9284
@paulmassey9284 4 жыл бұрын
@Lauren Fazenbaker where did you see them? I saw then at Newcastle uk.
@paulmassey9284
@paulmassey9284 4 жыл бұрын
@Lauren Fazenbaker wow Ohio. Sounds nice?
@NikkLiberos
@NikkLiberos 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to see them in Memphis TN, but then the pandemic hit. I do not even know if they rescheduled that yet.
@rog2224
@rog2224 4 жыл бұрын
@@NikkLiberos They're doing a few, smaller crowd continental europe gigs at the moment.
@MaynardsSpaceship
@MaynardsSpaceship 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another rabbit hole I'm excited and thrilled to see you stumble down. Jinjer is a breath of fresh air. Hearing them kind of ignited my excitement for new music; haven't felt that in a long time.
@MaynardsSpaceship
@MaynardsSpaceship 4 жыл бұрын
@@Midnightmidway Plenty to explore.
@Sol_1nvictus5813
@Sol_1nvictus5813 3 жыл бұрын
She pulls off the growl live with no effects. My dream girl!
@bobmcbride1487
@bobmcbride1487 3 жыл бұрын
When Tatiana opens her mouth, The planet stops moving and everyone listens to Metal perfection.
@MetaFootballTV
@MetaFootballTV 3 жыл бұрын
Awful.
@mohammedfakerah7173
@mohammedfakerah7173 3 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@threenil_818
@threenil_818 3 жыл бұрын
Truth !
@MetaFootballTV
@MetaFootballTV 3 жыл бұрын
It's disgusting.
@reapervich4192
@reapervich4192 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetaFootballTV for you maybe
@camlloyd3321
@camlloyd3321 4 жыл бұрын
The growl is all Tatiana, there are a few post production effects but they are not adding as much as you would think. Check out Perennial live at Wacken to see for yourself.
@jayhegener3028
@jayhegener3028 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s the key takeaway... not as much as people think. She sounds nearly this good in many live videos.
@bucklanddarrell3911
@bucklanddarrell3911 4 жыл бұрын
The big thing I notice is how low it gets. Lots of other examples her voice isn't so low, so there's a filter which is adding a low-end tone that she doesn't naturally have, but the fact she can do this at all is impressive.
@cosmicrunner
@cosmicrunner 4 жыл бұрын
@@bucklanddarrell3911 She does get that low. They could have layered the sound for the recording of this song, but she definitely goes this low (sometimes lower) live (I've seen it). Check out 4:02 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2fVp2innp1gbtU
@camlloyd3321
@camlloyd3321 4 жыл бұрын
@@bucklanddarrell3911 Have you not seen Who is Gonna be the one live yet? I challenge you to watch that, and tell me she doesn't get that low.
@timmokoo5679
@timmokoo5679 4 жыл бұрын
@@jayhegener3028 Yea, she's very good but to be fair, there are lots of effects going on live too.
@williamvieira6906
@williamvieira6906 4 жыл бұрын
Has anyone requested Gojira yet? If not a great place to start with them would be "The Gift of Guilt" they're a phenomenal band!
@lenn7272
@lenn7272 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, very unique too. Love them.
@vi_artwork_mx
@vi_artwork_mx 3 жыл бұрын
I would go with Explosia or Flying Whales because it builds up very nice
@Wnuwk
@Wnuwk 3 жыл бұрын
He’s done some already. I would love to see Flying Whales
@scottkidder8631
@scottkidder8631 4 жыл бұрын
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score. As a composer it is a symphony you will be BLOWN AWAY by.
@meekema3353
@meekema3353 4 жыл бұрын
I raise your bid with exellent musicians. ;-) Please do Ghost Love Score
@shereengonzalez1911
@shereengonzalez1911 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIrNep9-jKd0jNE
@GenDesperado
@GenDesperado 4 жыл бұрын
i raise the bid also
@Skraeling1000
@Skraeling1000 4 жыл бұрын
Abso-fricking-lutely! Do it, oh great de-composer! You'll not regret it!
@dalejones9459
@dalejones9459 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and make sure you watch the official live video from wakken
@swapticsounds
@swapticsounds 3 жыл бұрын
*ballad singing* you: "I was expecting some rock" *metal riff and growls kick in*
@bennyharderguitar
@bennyharderguitar 3 жыл бұрын
No effects on her voice. Just pure skill. She’s incredible.
@shadowboy813
@shadowboy813 3 жыл бұрын
I get goosebumps at the end of this song too. Every time. And I've heard it hundreds of times.
@kodendarkgaming2209
@kodendarkgaming2209 2 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite reaction to this song... I love how you appreciate all of the band members contributions equally, and I especially enjoy the way you break down the musical aspect in detail!
@akashicvizion
@akashicvizion 3 жыл бұрын
A little tip for 'rewinding' consistently: a tap of the 'j' key will back up 10 seconds, whether playing or paused-- *love* seeing people's reaction when Tatiana kicks in her 'chest voice'!!
@tiagoalexandre4691
@tiagoalexandre4691 3 жыл бұрын
I've lost count of the amount of times I've watched this, and every single time his reaction just cracks me up!!! XD
@afterlifetattoostudio7010
@afterlifetattoostudio7010 4 жыл бұрын
" was expecting like a rock kind of a...." LMAO
@cineddiction
@cineddiction 4 жыл бұрын
Jinjer -"Judgement and punishment" one take vocal performance will answer your question whether or not it's her voice. Or any of their their Live performance as well. Great reaction👍looking forward to you diving deeper in jinjer rabbit hole🤘
@nastinattilight
@nastinattilight 4 жыл бұрын
"Teacher, Teacher" is probably the best example of their musicianship. It is another official video, but really shows the talent level of the whole group on a much higher level, in my opinion of course.
@madcracker84
@madcracker84 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's a much more versatile song.
@chrisgoldston9755
@chrisgoldston9755 3 жыл бұрын
Yep...the video version is cool, but there are also two ‘official’ live versions that are killer as well 😎🔥🤘
@mhariebaniqued3287
@mhariebaniqued3287 3 жыл бұрын
totally agree
@edenschildren4238
@edenschildren4238 3 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize that there is no effects on her voice....its just pure talent
@TheRyanRShow
@TheRyanRShow 3 жыл бұрын
4 Years later and I still come peoples reactions haha
@trajectoryunown
@trajectoryunown 4 жыл бұрын
I'm squealing like a little girl right now and I ain't even seen this yet. Can't wait for you to see the transition.
@GeekMomz
@GeekMomz 4 жыл бұрын
I discovered so much great music after discovering Jinjer. I started watching reactions to it, liking the reactors & following them. Jinjer is probably all-time favorite band.
@Lyander25
@Lyander25 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, finding analysis channels following great songs has introduced me to loads of great music that I now love. Started off with Nightwish going into Dimash's SOS which is what led to my learning about Jinjer a few years back and it's just been grand :))
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 4 жыл бұрын
That was fun, I subbed. But, about those vocals... (edit) TL;DR watch the Judgement & Punishment one-take. She screws up just a bit in the first growling section of the chorus and makes her growl squeak. That wouldn't happen if it was an audio effect. The "live session" was to record their new drummer. The vocals are right off the album version and are layered to make them more intense, but Tatiana can growl even lower than this. The one part that she can't do live is she needs an extra second to switch from growls to belting so she just growls that belted line live. The original album version had one layer growled, one belted. This version they just did the belting line because it is so impressive. While Tati's skills aren't exactly routine for female growlers, they aren't all that unusual for the best of the bunch either. The best male growlers can go even lower, since a larger instrument can make a lower tone. In the case of Alex Terrible, he even does bits of the song Demolisher in shows without a mic after hushing the crowd and there are plenty of bootlegs to confirm this (if you watch the official video, they amplify that part - it isn't that loud in bootlegs, but the tone is real. It is a very real technique, done with the false vocal cords instead of the true vocal cords. Since the false cords aka vestibular folds aren't gendered (they are just flaps of tissue that close the throat against exhalation when lifting a heavy weight or pushing out a hard turd) male and female growls can sound very similar - as an example of that, I recommend Rage Of Light's "Mechanicals" live where the male growler who does backing vocals sounds almost indistinguishable from the growls of the female lead singer. While similar sounds can be made with something I've heard is called "dehumanizer," growling vocalists like Otep Shamaya (see also "Ghost Flowers" off the Confrontation live DVD) also do voiceover work for movies and games to voice monstrous characters. It's a thing. Anyway, for more from Jinjer, check out Perennial live at Wacken to see them on stage. There is a tiny bit of post production, but it sounds quite similar to bootlegs of that show. Cheers!
@Metal_89
@Metal_89 4 жыл бұрын
the vocals are not off the album version. when she hits those high notes towards the end, on the album version theres growling going on over top of it. theres none here. also if you listen close enough you can hear subtle differences between them as well.
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 3 жыл бұрын
@@Metal_89 I own both MP3s so I put them both in Audacity and overlapped them. If the vocal tracks were different there would be small (or not so small) differences that would be very obvious when listening to it. There is effectively no difference. Also note that the video description discusses recording some vocal layers, but makes no mention of recording the main vocal tracks.
@keith6848
@keith6848 3 жыл бұрын
Your reply was awesome, glad I saw it
@MoosicDude
@MoosicDude 3 жыл бұрын
Jinjer have some big old-style Opeth vibes going on here, everything is definitely their own though. It's an immense performance!
@m.vondrake5534
@m.vondrake5534 3 жыл бұрын
That "Jazz" element from an eastern European band shows how deeply talented they are. This is not one of my favorite bands but wow, I so respect their abilities.
@posmanager44
@posmanager44 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! Devin Townsend kimgdom next. Nightwish - ghost love score live.
@pelgervampireduck
@pelgervampireduck 3 жыл бұрын
she does it for real, it's not a plugin, she does it live, she can go from the clean voice to the "GRRRRR!" voice in a second. I'm not a fan of the band but I can tell they are all very talented.
@MatthewBousumonline
@MatthewBousumonline 4 жыл бұрын
Watching off genre or unfamiliar professionals talk about Tatiana is hilarious.
@brunotvrs
@brunotvrs 3 жыл бұрын
We need videos of people watching Pisces reactions now. I feel like we all giggle and smile in anticipation at the same timestamps lol
@KryticalError
@KryticalError 4 жыл бұрын
"Hoooooooo SHIT!" We have ALL been there my man lmfao. What a great video. Looking forward to more content
@senoirmetal
@senoirmetal 3 жыл бұрын
I love that look of: Are you fucking kidding me? XD
@JoeMcGuire
@JoeMcGuire 4 жыл бұрын
BEST JINJER REACTION VIDEO YET~! Though I wish I had taped the reaction my 8yo girl had to it (she ran out of the room) Next nomination - Chlorine & Wine by Baroness.
@KeyOfGeebz
@KeyOfGeebz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man!
@Sir-Complains-a-Lot
@Sir-Complains-a-Lot 3 жыл бұрын
Reverb and some sort of compressor is what i heard, but she is an absolute monster and there are other videos where she scares the crap out of you without any effects.
@MickeyKraut419
@MickeyKraut419 3 жыл бұрын
Just a little minor polish on Tati's voice is post production. The cleans in the prechorus have a slight bit of reverb and doubling. In the chorus, just a little compression, with some doubling on the ends of some phrases. On the bridge, a little doubling and a few backtracks. Same with the final push, just a little compression a couple layers on the final line.
@VileDivinity
@VileDivinity Жыл бұрын
Man your love for music is inspirational.
@susilou68
@susilou68 3 жыл бұрын
These reactions never get old! Brilliant - Tatiana is a beast!
@tomasmackenzie5866
@tomasmackenzie5866 4 жыл бұрын
Its 100% natural, and from what I've heard Tatiana has had no real vocal training. Shes just blessed I guess.
@Bramble451
@Bramble451 4 жыл бұрын
No training, and she confessed in an interview that she drinks and smokes, too.
@0xdecaf
@0xdecaf 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, her voice is awesome. If you want to hear more like this, you should check out Spiritbox - Rule of Nines
@kyotoguitar6463
@kyotoguitar6463 3 жыл бұрын
"Teacher, Teacher!" Has sick clean/fry vocal. It's really amazing how she controls her voice
@ignaciosalazar7070
@ignaciosalazar7070 4 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely speechless!!!!
@tonywtyt
@tonywtyt Жыл бұрын
I love how there's a sustained droning not on the guitar or base as the arrangement quiets down again, into a dreamy atmosphere, and then here dreamy lyrics/singing.
@Noperiety
@Noperiety 4 жыл бұрын
Alrighty. KZbins pause key is "k", while "j" goes back 10 seconds and "l" goes forward 10 seconds. "m" is mute/unmute. comma and period can skip through frames. So for going back a bit you can always go back the same amount of time using the keyboard with very little effort.
@annagumenyuk5265
@annagumenyuk5265 4 жыл бұрын
Also "arrow keys" backward & forward for 5sec skip
@NikkLiberos
@NikkLiberos 4 жыл бұрын
I only use the spacebar and arrow keys. I must be something...
@malevolution7041
@malevolution7041 4 жыл бұрын
it looks like he's using WMP and not youtube, but I might be mistaken
@glyph5044
@glyph5044 4 жыл бұрын
Holy sh/t thank you Nico, I had no idea there was a frame key.
@slate613
@slate613 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Been wondering how people do that! lol
@slate613
@slate613 3 жыл бұрын
Tatiana and Eugene [bassist] said in an interview they don't think they have a genre because they draw from so many different ones.
@bosunbones.8815
@bosunbones.8815 3 жыл бұрын
A wild critter!?! Is it thursday yet??? 🤗🤘
@PeaceHaver
@PeaceHaver 3 жыл бұрын
This definitely mix between hip-hop and jazz.
@TheCrazyCanuck420
@TheCrazyCanuck420 3 жыл бұрын
Interviewer: how would you describe your genre? Tatiana and Eugene: yes
@ricku2864
@ricku2864 3 жыл бұрын
@@bosunbones.8815 Bidet!
@bosunbones.8815
@bosunbones.8815 3 жыл бұрын
@@ricku2864 Beep Beep!
@dylanhamilton7190
@dylanhamilton7190 4 жыл бұрын
New fan of your channel here for the obligatory Nightwish request of Ghost Love Score! As a composer I think you’ll really appreciate it.
@pro-v7500
@pro-v7500 4 жыл бұрын
Live at Wacken 2013, not the original singer. Let’s be honest, if we want him to truly enjoy Nightwish as a first listen then it needs to be the current vocalist, not the one that hasn’t been in the band for 16 years now.
@cheyennetamara9356
@cheyennetamara9356 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my FAVORITE songs, and gives me goose bumps EVERY time I here her go from that low docile tone to absolutely smashing. Like, uggggh. I love it. So so so much.
@ptbempire
@ptbempire 3 жыл бұрын
Goosebumps are still so real when I watch this such a great produced track
@abelstrd
@abelstrd 3 жыл бұрын
When I first heard and watched this I imagined myself in a quiet cozy coffee shop. Then all of a suddenly I found myself in a sweaty dusty mosh pit flailing my arms and legs with a bloody nose..... and back to the coffee shop and back to the pit!!!!
@geneticcanvasexotics9365
@geneticcanvasexotics9365 3 жыл бұрын
NO EFFECTS!! She’s that good bud!! Check out the live show in Melbourne.Australia!! Mind blowing!!😱
@ericpegram9737
@ericpegram9737 3 жыл бұрын
"Virgin innocence" is actually the state of a vocal coach before hearing this song
@eleonorasassi3989
@eleonorasassi3989 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet children of summer...
@ericsteffen6258
@ericsteffen6258 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY someone addresses the drumming!!! Thank you!
@marloc2019
@marloc2019 3 жыл бұрын
I love you man! You are not a toddler, not a young boy either but you have the surprise, the excitement and the sheer delight of a summer day spent in a toy store. And its heartwarming. Keep on. Great content
@y0maxtko
@y0maxtko 4 жыл бұрын
Devin Townsend “Kingdom” !!
@thrakkanuur
@thrakkanuur 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch a reaction of this by someone who knows music well... it's always about the "Ghost notes" and how sick the drummer is. Hehe. A bad ass drummer wields some crazy power man.
@williammckee2859
@williammckee2859 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a reaction of you finding out that the "hook" is her voice and not some synthetic machined up auto tune voice over.
@adamsmith2758
@adamsmith2758 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not what he is talking about when he says “hook”... a “hook” is the catch of the song, oftentimes the chorus.. read a book before you make a shit comment
@figofagonagoitis
@figofagonagoitis 3 жыл бұрын
The hook thing was explained by other coment. In case of her voice it’s obwious that she uses effects and she uses them a lot. That doesn’t change the fact that she can do growl. In this supposed live performance there are multiple lines of vocal with different effects.
@williammckee2859
@williammckee2859 3 жыл бұрын
@Adam Smith I love keyboard warriors. But this topic caught my attention the other day because I did not post this comment and had to change my passwords. Ironically, I am a Jinjer fan and have seen them live and can say that she does use some minimal voice processing but her voice is pure and she sounds very "similar" to their studio recordings unlike the majority of her female counterparts in metal. And Adam, next time you insult someone online like a big man take a look in the mirror and remind yourself who you are and who you may be talking too on the other side.
@pentalarclikesit822
@pentalarclikesit822 3 жыл бұрын
There are definitely some effects on the vocals, (significant reverb and some compression at the least) but that switch is not easy to do one way or the other. (Not at that level, but I'm a vocalist and can do similar switches) I also play bass and some guitar, so to me I really think of it like kicking on a pedal. But I think the main reason why reason why (besides sexism and biological ignorance, let's be honest people who lack any knowledge of singing or anatomy probably don't expect a woman to use that type of growl/fry) I think everyone thinks those vocals are a lot more heavily treated than they are is because she has an unusually *clear* delivery in that style compared to many others.
@benjamineisenhofer8174
@benjamineisenhofer8174 3 жыл бұрын
Women growling are just so awesome. Goosebumps indeed!
@krisb294
@krisb294 3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing people when they hear Tatiana sing for the 1st time, and even moreso when they hear her growl for the 1st time. 😁 It always makes my day!
@log9262
@log9262 4 жыл бұрын
If you like really layered songs, the Forty Six & 2 by TOOL is a really good bet. I’d also have to recommend some Alice In Chains (my personal favorite being Would?). Thank you for the great videos, keep up the great work! 👍
@otdewiljes
@otdewiljes 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for Would?
@teemue
@teemue 3 жыл бұрын
Pisces is basically a loveletter to Opeth's Blackwater park. Honestly I heard this song without knowing who's the artist and I thought Opeth had a female vocalist featuring. Nonetheless, Jinjer is the most badass live performing band I've ever witnessed.
@rxtuninginc8444
@rxtuninginc8444 3 жыл бұрын
Them and Tool.
@hailey302
@hailey302 4 жыл бұрын
I was 4 feet away from Tatiana during a concert last year, that’s definitely her voice lol. It was the best concert I’ve ever been to.
@gy7694
@gy7694 2 жыл бұрын
Heard it so many times but that drop still gives me goosebumps!
@大屁股-i1q
@大屁股-i1q 3 жыл бұрын
I found this song through you, and I've been listening to it relentlessly. Look at that! You've covered so many songs, you're surely now introducing great music into the lives of others. I'm grateful you randomly decided to make this channel 🤙
@katseyes33
@katseyes33 3 жыл бұрын
Nope...it's all her! Her live performances are all the proof you need! 🖤
@SupaBeluga
@SupaBeluga 4 жыл бұрын
It's a natural type of "effect," really. Just the way that your voice starts to kind of gravel out if you try to hit a note that's too low, for example, or the vocal fry that many have when speaking taken to an extreme effect. Vibrate the so-called "false" vocal folds instead of your full voiced folds you would use to sustain a normal pitched note, and push air through so you can get sound and form words (I think this is a fry scream, though there are several different techniques, as evidenced by the diversity of sounds you can hear vocalists make in the more "extreme" subgenres of metal, ranging from squealy sounds to really rough growls). She definitely uses some delay and stuff, too, but the "harsh" sounds are produced with physical technique and control (from tons of practice, especially to do safely, since doing it wrong can permanently damage your vocal folds). Switching between the two sounds is quite difficult, and she does an incredible job, which belies a lot of effort and discipline! Great reaction, loved how much you keyed into the drums instantly.
@KeyOfGeebz
@KeyOfGeebz 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a wonderful explanation! Thank you.
@MmeHyraelle
@MmeHyraelle 3 жыл бұрын
I second. The types of technique is guttural singing. Some inuk (native Canadian ) people do this, as well asians regions such as mongolia. In non-metal ways.
@jaketheadventurer2772
@jaketheadventurer2772 3 жыл бұрын
I love your username and profile picture!
@SupaBeluga
@SupaBeluga 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaketheadventurer2772 Thanks! It's become my go to on a lot of social platforms haha
@erikmaronde2244
@erikmaronde2244 4 жыл бұрын
Next choice naturally is Devin Townsend, "Higher" in Plovdiv or "Kingdom" (EMG TV) or Deadhead life at Royal Albert Hall. Have fun listening!
@KillTheJester
@KillTheJester 3 жыл бұрын
Really like the way you are being honest and sincere. And fun to see you enjoying this masterpiece.
@jayclark8422
@jayclark8422 3 жыл бұрын
Really digging your perspective, notes, and and just overall vibe. Mahalo.
@psychonaut1829
@psychonaut1829 3 жыл бұрын
I like some metal, not really a metal head, but this is maybe a perfect song. Most of their other stuff is heavier, i really like "Cloud Factory" and "I speak Astronomy"
@schoolofmediocrity2801
@schoolofmediocrity2801 3 жыл бұрын
Geebz: "I love when bass players really work with the instrument" Me: "May I introduce you to Coheed and Cambria?"
@Lurch685
@Lurch685 3 жыл бұрын
Can you suggest some tracks?
@schoolofmediocrity2801
@schoolofmediocrity2801 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lurch685 For some truly great examples of the bassist's abilities I would say the Willing Well I, II, III or IV... all are fantastic. However, if you want something more subtle but equally good, I would recommend Here to Mars. It is such a fun song to play, and if I was going to recommend one song for Geebz to react to it would be that one.
@Lurch685
@Lurch685 3 жыл бұрын
@@schoolofmediocrity2801 thanks! I’ll check em out.
@TravisLackey
@TravisLackey 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Les Claypool. Guy is a complete legend.
@maqpulpo
@maqpulpo 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Devin Townsend - Kingdom live at emgtv next! You're going to flipout with his voice!! another hit (likes this one) with the reaction world too 🤘🏻
@MllrtimeOnTheTube
@MllrtimeOnTheTube 3 жыл бұрын
It's All her! Going to see them in October and stoked!
@ambersilva8752
@ambersilva8752 3 жыл бұрын
Never tire of watching reactions to this song & video
@robertgary3520
@robertgary3520 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Viking and I want her to be the Mother of my children
@ninjaartist1235
@ninjaartist1235 3 жыл бұрын
You might wanna pick a number.
@repentorperish1386
@repentorperish1386 3 жыл бұрын
be a real viking and hold a tournament
@chrisvaughn4399
@chrisvaughn4399 3 жыл бұрын
It just never gets old.. Great reaction. I'm here following the first Nightwish reaction. Non-monetized channel = sincere reaction. Instant sub from me.
@williamdrake6711
@williamdrake6711 4 жыл бұрын
I also recommend THE HU- WOLF TOTEM and HEILUNG- KRIGSGALDR and OMNIA- FEE RA HURI... I think youd like all of them
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely say the first two are epic, so I'm assuming the third is too and will check it out right after this. :)
@williamdrake6711
@williamdrake6711 4 жыл бұрын
@@j.f.fisher5318 i love OMNIA just something different most havent heard of
@williamdrake6711
@williamdrake6711 4 жыл бұрын
I also like Faun if you like different music..... FAUN- WALPURGISNACHT
@Dyrtbag68
@Dyrtbag68 2 жыл бұрын
Still an amazing reaction a year later with 340k views. Geebz is the man!
@terminalfx
@terminalfx 3 жыл бұрын
I still get goosebumps everytime I watch the video. 11/10
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