OM-D E-M10 III in 2020. Still the BEST Entry? End of Term Review by Jimmy Cheng (RED35)

It's been 3 years since the Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III arrived. It's also one of the best selling cameras in the entire Olympus line up. Three years on, is it still a good camera? Do you want to get it to start your photography journey? Or you want to wait to see what Olympus will give us in the future?
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[@JD-ef1jb]

My mom dropped her Mark II from her pocket onto a stone stairway where it bounced/rolled down 3 steps, and it still worked perfectly afterwards. Highly recommend.

[@Omen0004]

I sold mine on eBay and got returned broken from transit 🥲

[@rentedtux1883]

I still use my Olympus film cameras. I'm a professional photographer. You dont need 500000 pixels to be a good photographer. This little gem is more than enough for a pro to get any picture they want.

[@bernhardtsen74]

I miss the saturation of colour film or even the old iso 200 film rolls!

[@herrreinsch]

I'm sorry to be that guy, but 500000 pixels is 0,5 Megapixels. :P no, but seriously I agree with you, 12 megapixels is enough for everything.

[@sidarta1961]

E-M10 III It's simply an extraordinary camera. I am really pleased and surprised. I highly recommend it

[@Meister_J]

I heard they are stopping production of cameras. Now I don't know if it's good or bad for already existing models...Just giving a heads up🙂

[@subrotomitra]

Agree.. It is so usable. What pictures. Use the 17mm /2.8 and see it stun

[@evaldasmaciokas4975]

I’m new to photography and cameras so would like some help please... for me it’s not been a great experience with this camera the lense doesn’t seem to focus properly and doesn’t take picture when pressing. When I finally take a picture it’s blurry and crap quality lighting it’s awful too, many good reviews so I’m giving the camera the benefit of the doubt and saying it’s probs me who’s doing it wrong. Please help?

[@abc1DiLy]

Just bought the Mk III as an upgrade from an old Panasonic superzoom camera I’ve had for a few of years. As a complete amateur, the value for money of the Mk III at the moment is fantastic considering how it compares to other entry level mirrorless cameras. My other option was a Fujifilm X-A7 but a viewfinder and image stabilisation sold me on the Olympus for the same price, even with the smaller sensor. The Mk IV looks like a decent upgrade but for my minimal use as someone who dabbles in photography, I’m keen as a bean to try out the Mk III. Thanks for the updated review!

[@257squadron]

My wife and I still run mk1's as well as a Pen F. Great cameras

[@birder268]

I love this camera too. I enjoy shooting photos with M. Zuiko 60mm macro, 8-18mm and 14-150mm lens. I just took some itchy bitsy spider photos yesterday with the macro lens (hand held, no tripod), The pictures came out pretty nice.

[@patrickmcfadden1689]

Jimmy, another great video. I just can't get enough of using my EM10Mii and EM10MiiiS, both such excellent cameras with awesome features. My FF and APSc cameras are sitting on the shelf while I take these out every day.

[@digitalsketchguy7844]

It's still relevant in *2023* because It's a quality camera that is now going for silly prices on the used market while everyone sells their old for shiny new latest thing.

[@charne911]

I still use my E-M10ii and get great results -- have higher end bigger brothers. Still love the E-M10ii. Have placed an order for the new E-M10iv. Can't wait.

[@perrins57]

I agree with your wishlist for the mk iv, they need similar vlogging features for the E-PL11.

[@zhengricky5446]

Looking forward to Saori and Zoha's outdoor portraits soon

[@patrickmcfadden6908]

I got the OMD EM10Mii earlier this year from a pawn shop for a great price. It has become my EDC camera.

[@davidblack2632]

Good long term review. I hope if the E-M10 MkIV gets released it will have some of the features you wish for.

[@radoa6460]

Any hopes for an update on the Pen-F? Love your enthusiasm. Keep up with all your excellent work and stay safe.

[@tedhan1920]

I like this new format!

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks and glad you noticed!

[@Michael-fw5ef]

I think the lens quality and the lighting available is most important when taking photos. I own an EM10 Mark II

[@AndyBanner]

Shortly after this video, Olympus announced it was leaving the camera market. What a shame with products like this. Didn't stop me buying one.

[@forevershampoo]

What the fuck. They have made some very great cameras thru the years.

[@subrotomitra]

Me too.

[@julyk9684]

They sold it. It is now called OM digital solutions and produced in Japan. They already announced that new cameras and lenses will follow :)

[@zhengricky5446]

You're back finally

[@Red35Photography]

I am Ricky

[@paulusc2516]

Waited for the mkIV to appear - have just ordered my mkIII

[@AndrewSowerby]

I went for the mark II because it felt a little better in the hand (maybe it was the difference between having metal top and bottom plates vs. plastic ones, but I also seemed to just 'fit' better). The photographic capabilities were so close, and I didn't have any interest in its video output, so there just wasn't enough draw. The used price was actually pretty close for each model, but I had the feeling that the Mark II is the one that may be considered more of a classic in years to come. For the Mark IV, my biggest wish - by far - is for a back illuminated sensor, for better low light performance (not that it's all that bad as it is). 20MP would be fine - super high res isn't really a concern for me. The IBIS could easily be improved, I'm sure - it wasn't a noticeable step up from my 2011 Pentax SLR, and I was expecting a bit more from it. The EVF could be improved, and the menus badly need reorganising and de-cluttering. All in all, since the E-M10 (mark II or III) is already such a great little photographic tool, and the fundamentals of photography really don't change, I'd only be looking for small, incremental improvements. Whatever Olympus do, they shouldn't change it too much - they got so much right with this one.

[@db9544]

Great videos as always. I like the compact size of this camera and with a top lens is an ideal set up for street photography. The multi-point autofocus is a bit hit and miss however, and there is no multi focus in continuous shooting. I am just wondering how much of a difference in autofocus and image quality you will see when compared to the EM5-II or an older pro body Em1-M1?

[@NTKcinema]

today, i get my cam on amazon - 300us used. Excelent

[@RobShootPhotos]

I think 20mp, hybrid detection and a little bit bigger buffer. Maybe the VIII sensor but I don't think is necessary. This would give plenty of room between the E-M5 III. No Pro-Capture, slower burst speed, smaller buffer, no flippy screen, Hi-Res shot, focus stacking & weather sealing. $699 full retail and $599 sale price a few months later. Once the E-M10 II goes down, they will adjust the Mark IV to what the Mark III currently is.

[@gregkondrasuk4960]

The E-M10 III already has a TruePic VIII, so let's hope for a TruePic IX in the Mark IV.

[@Group51]

If there’s a tensions with more video capabilities in the EM body, they should put it into the PEN line. I’m puzzled at the non-update EPL10. Seems like it could compete well with that Sony vlogger camera. But it’s needs audio input. Choices please!

[@ansonchew_sg]

The wish list is called EM5 mark 3

[@ammadoux]

like before i finish the video.

[@Michael-pm8fl]

I still love OM-D E-M10 Mark II. I dont think I have a desire for 4k. Also oddly the preset buttons were in the newer version.... But that rotating screen make me keep putting it back on the wish list

[@kagankagan8484]

E-M10 II is even still good enough for beginners. my lovely first camera:)

[@i-dunnowhatimtalkingaboutbut]

Same!

[@joshkizurchin]

Thts why the mkii seems to be more expensive

[@ceyhnkuncu4154]

how long have you been using it? have you ever had problems this olympus?

[@ammadoux]

right now i have the om 1 mark 3 and still happy with my old om 5 mark 2. not sure i can help with your question.

[@eraserrx]

I already own an α6000. Instead of trading it in for α6100 or α6400, I purchased a Mk III which has IBIS at such an affordable price! (Also partly because Olympus sold the consumer camera division to JIP.) I wanted the silent shooting on the Mk II. But having 4K makes more sense in 2020. I'll live with the silent mode in AP. At least there is silent continuous shooting. Thanks for the review!

[@mhess427]

How is the build quality and video capability compared to the Sony?

[@ianwhite4315]

I'm loving my Mark III having bought it at the beginning of lockdown. For a 1980's beginner coming back to photography it's amazing. Build quality... I nearly had my heart broken yesterday, the camera on a tripod taking a sea scene. An effing cyclist going full pelt swerved hitting the tripod full on, with it and camera coming to rest 25 feet away (of course he didn't stop). Cosmetic scratches aside around the dials and pyramid the camera still works. Screen undamaged. Full test on all modes. Still working. 25mm Prime Lens and tripod head didn't make it. After my heart missed a few hundred beats, I'm still in business with a great little camera.

[@Fostaah]

Great video, really helped make a good informed choice with relevant topics and comparison items for 2021 market. Love it

[@marklaurendet1861]

For me the next model needs an external flash sync plug, and keep the tiltable screen.

[@CurtisAhoPhotography]

@3:23 is when he starts going into the camera details

[@anindyasundarpal6449]

Thank you

[@Red35Photography]

You're welcome

[@pacostiro]

My wishlist for EM10 IV is an EM5 IV :). I own an EM10 III and I am very happy with it as it does the job very well for me. I plan to keep it for a few more years and only do a noticeable step forward when EM5 IV will be released. Until then I'll enjoy EM10 III and this great system that is m43 for its portability. It was a very good decision for me to go from a compact camera to this one, it made photography to become a hobby. I wouldn't go for larger crop factor like APS-C or FF.

[@jpdeardenphotography]

I bought the em10miii, in march and have got the 45mm, 14mm-42mm, 40mm-150mm and recently got the 75mm-300mm. I love the camera and the lenses . Thank you for the review and would love to see some tutorials on it so I can get the best out of the camera. Good vid and like the outtakes.

[@guzman_uy9420]

Hy john. What about the 75-300? I have the 45-150 4-5.6 and love it but thinking in this other lens too. Greetings

[@Red35Photography]

Glad you enjoyed the camera! What sort of tutorial you would like to see? I will be planning some

[@jpdeardenphotography]

@@guzman_uy9420 I've found the 75 to 300 to be the sharpest lens I have. Just need good lighting as its not the fastest but it is my favourite

[@jpdeardenphotography]

@@Red35Photography hi, something like different settings for the project shooting. I.e. wildlife, portraits etc, go in depth with AP/ art settings. And if possible to shoot with ed lens and not pro lens. Due to my accident money tight so can't afford the pro lens. How to get the sharpest shots . Thank you for your response and time. Love the channel. Stay safe

[@lweleven3423]

i just picked up a used one in 2022, looking back at all my Photos the quality of my old and sold Mkii seems as good as every other camera ive used since , yes maybe not cutting edge features and gadgets but for simple photography its spot on .( to add the Mk4 and over double the price even used just didnt seem worth it , maybe in 18mths when the price has dropped )

[@dennyyshmael]

Is there a touch and drag feature where it lets you select your AF focus point with your thumb on the touch screen as your eye is in the EVF? Also is the body metal or plastic?

[@billiesbabyblue1]

Thank you for this review!! Ive had the Mark III since 2018 and I am obsessed. Never regretted it one bit. But am now looking for more lenses other than the kit ones and the portrait lens. Any go-tos??

[@victoradi6701]

Hii,, you can check the olympus 25mm f1.8 ,olympus 45mm f1.8 best for portraits and if you're on a budget and you don't mind manual lenses then do check out the pergear 25mm f1.8, meike 25mm f1.8 or ttartisan 35mm f1.4 great for portraits as well.

[@rob1261a]

This is a must accessory grip for this camera - Fotodiox Pro, Deluxe All Metal Black Camera Hand Grip for Olympus OM-D E-M10 Mark III - Amazon - $30.

[@rayliu7762]

hahah and I was one of those that asked :)

[@elzafir]

No mention regarding the plastic body on the Mk III vs the metal body on the Mk II?

[@eddwingregg6999]

YYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@juanpabloalvarado9814]

I think the e-m10 mk-iv will be good with just three more things: new processor, new auto-focus system and selphie screen. Fully articulated, for me, is just for video makers, and this camera should continue being the best entry level for photographers...I had the E-PL9 but I missed too much the viewfinder and the 5 axis-stabilization. And, PLEASE, the Olympus Pen F mk-ii.

[@MusabTahaTarik]

You guessed right :)

[@keithholland4322]

Right now, the best new entry level m4/3 camera available is the Panasonic G7. Olympus needs something that can compete, but with IBIS and autofocus that doesn't constantly hunt. In 2020, a camera should be able to do whatever a cell phone camera can do and do it better, and that includes vlogging and selfies, so a fully articulating screen is a must. So is a mic jack. It doesn't need weather sealing, hi-res mode, a fast frame rate and all the other bells and whistles from the E-M5 and E-M1 series cameras, just a fully articulating screen and mic jack and good video autofocus. So basically an E-M5 Mark II without the bells and whistles.

[@keithholland4322]

I actually traded in my G7 for a used E-M5 Mark II a few months ago, mostly because it's weather sealed, has IBIS, and the video AF works well. The only thing I miss about the G7 is the ergonomics. The grip on the G7 makes it feel much lighter than it is and it's much easier to use with larger lenses like the Panasonic 100-300mm. But overall, I like the E-M5 Mark II much better!

[@richardbest3575]

The main reason it is still popular is because it looks absolutely stunning especially in black

[@therepguy1]

I got hooked on Olympus cameras back in the 60’s when film was king, of late I’ve been looking for a digital upgrade / replacement. I think I may have found my solution.

[@Red35Photography]

Thanks Rick! If you take stills primarily, you won’t be disappointed

[@jandewit2733]

The 5ii is currently being sold by Olympus for 600€, 14-150 lens included. Weather sealing is lacking in the 10mkIII, which is a pain in even the slightest drizzle.

[@possumawesome1]

Would this make a good camera for product shooting? Thank you!

[@johnnyc4717]

Jimmy, I notice an Om-D E-M10 Mark IIIS on the Olympus USA website. It is labeled as a new product, only available for pre-order. Any clue what's that about? They announced it alongside the 150-400 lens but there have been no videos or articles on the Mark IIIs that I could find.

[@arkadiuszmarek6899]

I'm wondering if it's a good choice to buy it maily for amateur video making. I found offer with 14-42 mm Pancake lens and ZUIKO 45 mm 1.8 lens for about 400 pounds. Will it be a good deal for video making or should I choose something else?

[@mariannafallen]

Do you recommend this camera for photography, if I dont care for vlogging?

[@rosewhite---]

Is there any way to disable all the icons on the screen during photography as I can barely see through them all to take the picture!

[@MichaelGerrard]

Olympus makes the E-PL cameras for entry level and vloggers. The 10 III is a step up from there for photographers. That is my reading of their range. Currently the E-M10 III is priced too high. Olympus have a special price on the older mark II currently, if I were to get a 10 series I would get that. For video you have to go for either the GX80 or step up to the E-M5 III. I hope a new 10 series does not come out soon because it will compete with the E-M5 III in Olympus' range. Instead, I think a better E-PL would be better for vloggers. Vloggers don't need the EVF. A better Pen would not conflict with the E-M5 III.

[@johnwhiteaway2795]

I have the EM 1 mk2 and EM 1 mk3 with 300mm F4 pro 1.4x tele and 12-100 F4 pro. I love the camera's BUT when I want a simple walk around combo I still grab my EM10 mk3 + 14-150 mk2 lens. For me this is a great little alk about light weight combo and when I don't want to carry all the other gear this will do just fine even in 2020 and beyond. Wish list for the mk 4 ( if there is one ) would just be better auto focus and a mic socket also a new sensor with better Dynamic Range would be nice but sticking to 16mp would be fine. Really though I love the size weight etc and 16mp is more than enough pixels for me. Remember the new EOS 1dx mk3 £6000 + camera only has 20 mp. I have used a few high mp cameras from Sony and Nikon and unless you intend to blow your images to poster size then 16 - 20 is more than enough for 99% of people's usage.

[@Red35Photography]

Well said mate, exactly my point!

[@johnwhiteaway2795]

@@Red35Photography yes sorry meant to write in my original post I agree with you completely

[@CameraCombo]

As for video and CAF, it's not that bad at all. IMO it's on par with the GH5 (also contrast AF). When set properly, you can easily use the touch screen to go back and forth between subjects smoothly- many of the Pany bodies don't do this at all. They seem to go in focus, back, in, then back in again. The PL9 and the EM10 III don't have that really abrupt in-out-in-out motion to the CAF- much more confident IMO. The image is just as good, but it lacks 10bit when compared to the GH5 (who cares?). The price point is also VERY different, especially on the used market. Knowing and accepting what I tell you, would you buy this camera in 2020? Maybe an update on the horizon? Given the product cycle, I'm guessing it would be coming before JIP takes over.

[@alex-sd]

My Mk 1 just started getting this internal temp error and body is now unusable. Tried updating firmware but no bueno. :( But just ordered a Mk 3 and looking forward to using it in an upcoming trip. I was considering Mk 2 mainly due to remote flash left out on Mk 3 but other features and price of Mk 3 won me over. Current Mk 4 is $300 more and can't justify that. Update: I just found out that the firmware update 1.1 on Mk 3 has added the remote flash option! So to me, the Mk 3 is now complete.

[@imdyinginside1919]

one thing that kinna suck is that it don't have clean hdmi and mic input

[@KimCruz1]

Hey jimmy thanks for the review! Just wondering what camera and lens set up you're using at around 1:15? Thanks man and keep it up!

[@Red35Photography]

E-M1x and 17mm 1.2 pro

[@KimCruz1]

Red35 Photography thanks man

[@Basiliold]

What lens did you use for 0:48-0:50? Or did you do that in editing?

[@parthobasak5201]

No doubt, this is best entry level, and mk4 is out there

[@105jovan]

Sou you can’t use a mic on it? Even if u buy converter for mic input?

[@kittumama]

Can tell me which camera ur using now in ur video

[@johnallen3423]

Those micro SD cards look interesting for a smaller size camera ..?

[@mikierenzo8023]

No fully articulated screen please, tilting screen is much better. I wish it had "my set" and more menu options and a mic jack instead of flash. Pro capture I would leave it to m5 and m1, more accurate c-focus it would be good.

[@favila1973]

How do we think the new OM-D E-M10 Mark IIIs compares to its predecessor?

[@ceyhnkuncu4154]

Canon m50 vs Olympus omd10 mark3 vs iphone 11 camera(night, sun, landspace) which is better this models? Please help mi ?

[@razzi0718]

Is it better than an Iphone 11 pro for taking cool vacation/adventure photos and videos?

[@JEHomestead]

Ok, So I'm a beginner digital photographer and would like to know which one I should get, M10 111 or the M5 11? I want to be able to get scenery shots, Like the Grand Canyon as an example but also macro shots to like flowers, insects etc. . Also video capabilities . Thanks, Judy

[@mariusvlad4076]

the stinking propagandist answers

[@bobk4438]

I think the EM10 Mk 2 is a better camera. Great for learning how a camera works.

[@jdcope68]

Im still using my E-M10 mk1. Works perfectly, I see no reason to upgrade.

[@ceyhnkuncu4154]

how long have you been using it? have you ever had problems this olympus? Thanks

[@cmartin_ok]

Is it true that the silent shutter mode from the Mk II (full electronic shutter) has been omitted from the Mk III? Also there's no battery grip?

[@Red35Photography]

Silent mode is there but there’s no battery grip option

[@RudyDuncan]

How to turn it on after full battery charged, this is my issue, can't be turned on after changing full ?

[@Red35Photography]

Not sure what happened there, you can't turn it on when you have a charged battery? Did you try other battery?

[@RudyDuncan]

@@Red35Photography ya, I can't turn it on after battery has been charged, I got no another battery, this camera is like this since I bought it, but when I wait for 2 hours after putting the battery back, then it can turn on. My issue is can't turn on immediately after battery charged.

[@Red35Photography]

@@RudyDuncan This is weird and the first time I've heard of it too. I suspect it's a battery issue and may be worth getting a cheap 3rd party battery to try to see if it does the same, it is, it could be a camera issue but I highly doubt it.

[@RobShootPhotos]

End of Term....the IV is coming. I know its an obvious comment. lol But I'm eyeing the E-M5 III or E-M1 II unless there are enough features in this new future model that I may save in price.

[@2nyboy723]

Hi, like your videos about olympus gear. plan to get a olympus gear . what would you recommend for macro & landscape photography. I like the olympus camera features Live Composite & Focus Stacking. Also, are there any third party lenses that work with olympus features as mentioned above?thank you.

[@Lloyd1885]

Pana/leica 9mm 1.7 👍🏽

[@TL-xw6fh]

Give it the 20MP PDAF sensor and TruePic VIII processor for better IQ and improved AF, but not an articulated screen. I don't see the need to make this a video-centric camera as Olympus should focus on the PL-series for vloggers. Generally, Olympus should give all the OM-series the 20MP sensor and the PL-series continue with a 16MP sensor to differentiate them (although upgrade to a PDAF system too). 16MP is more than sufficient for vlogging, unless you want to do 6K, which is another whole different ballgame.

[@letni9506]

I find when I carry my camera I always scratch the screen a little. I have two cameras with fully articulating screens and feel much happier having one. I suppose you can be careful but I just like to sling them in my backpack and not worry about the screen banging on the zip of my coat 😀 Pity the em 10 iv lacks one.

[@TL-xw6fh]

@@letni9506 I always carry my camera hung over my shoulder or neck so the screen is very vulnerable to scratches too. However, I never get scratches because I use a screen protector over it, just like we all do with mobile phones.

[@francenovak4246]

does anyone know if it is possible to autofocus when taking multle shots with timer? i would like to use this camera for selfies on a strong selfie stick

[@Red35Photography]

No you can’t. Everything is pre-focused first in timer mode. But what I would suggest is to connect to your phone and you.l can use it as a remote, focus and set timer :)

[@maoraharon21]

I could not believe how tiny it was when I saw it IRL. my g9 looks huge compared to it.

[@d3r3kfung]

Would you recommend a second hand omd5 MK2 or a brand new omd10 mk3 for a beginner like myself and 99.9% for photography. Price wise, the brand new omd10 mk3 is cheaper by around Usd100. Thank you.

[@Red35Photography]

If the difference is only USD 100, take the EM5 II, much better build and weather sealed. Features are similar apart from video stuff. Also has more manual controls than EM10 tooz

[@d3r3kfung]

Red35 Photography excellent. Many thanks for your advise 🙏🏻🍻

[@CameraCombo]

A correction... This camera DOES have the Truepic VIII processor (one of the first that did).

[@Red35Photography]

Yes, I believe is an under-clocked version. I don’t think they will use TruPic IX as E-M1 III so they may stick with VIIi instead but you never know

[@marioplus321]

I can't get accustomed to you appearing on your own in your videos. 🕵Where are the 🌟 🌟???😛

[@Red35Photography]

Cheeky! Ain’t I good enough 😂😂😂

[@marioplus321]

@@Red35Photography ha ha ....hope springs eternal ➡👍

[@lodo9787]

Between an em5 mkii and a em10 mkiii which one would you take?

[@rob1261a]

E-M5 II is a more advanced and more expensive camera (fully articulated screen, weatherproof, etc. ).

[@Ponskippa]

I don’t think the mark iv is ever coming :(

[@kiss4luna]

I have Z6 now lol

[@jirkadolezal8127]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@LuvOfLalaland]

So what will you recommend for film making entry level mirrorless? I’m really struggling

[@Red35Photography]

That depends on your needs straight away, entry level or not, do you need to have real time audio that burns into the video file? This is basically what separate the models you need to get. If audio is important and you don't want to record separately and rather to do everything in camera, then you need a camera that has a mic input jack, this is when EM10 III or IV doesn't have. You need to go with EM5 at least for that feature. Then it's your needs on whether you need 4K or you are happy with 1080. Most beginner would be happy with 1080 because it's easier on computer and editing on most computer, also easier on storage. Finally, do you need AF for certain application? If you are going to manual focus everything, like most filmmakers do, then it's fine. If you require AF for certain type of shots when you are filming, then you need a camera with great AF system, again, you need EM5 III or EM1 II and above to get that. Hope this explains things a little. Good luck.

[@LuvOfLalaland]

@@Red35Photography Thanks for the details. Yes 4k with good AF is very important for me. Audio is important, but if I have to make a choice audio will be the one to careless. How do you think Fujifilm xt 30 for what I need?

[@0omemao0]

There is an offer just now to get this camera with the kit lens and a 40 - 150mm r lens for £500... i take it this is a good deal? I've been looking at it for ages haha

[@Red35Photography]

£500? that's pretty good! Yes :)

[@subrotomitra]

Hi what is the difference between Mk iii and iiiS in China

[@Red35Photography]

Nothing much, only art filters

[@keithholland4322]

I would never recommend someone buy an E-M10 Mark III unless they got a really good bargain on a used one because the only major difference between the Mark II and Mark III is 4K video and if you're going to be shooting video, you're going to want a mic jack and fully articulating screen, so I just don't see why anyone would pay extra for the Mark III.

[@Red35Photography]

UK has some really cheap deals for mark III

[@RobShootPhotos]

I have the Mark II and my wife has the Mark III. There are difference you won't notice unless you had both for awhile. Mark III does have a slight thicker grip, nothing in comparing to a G7 of course. The AF track pad is also improved, native ISO is a 1/3 better, menus are more user friendly and less cluttered. With that said, I agree and also the user friendliness takes away a couple little details I wasn't a fan of. My sister-in-law got her E-M10 II for $350 with the 14-42mm R brand new from Adorama. (Olympus is in the family).

[@paristo]

NO to the side articulating screen! Videographers do not need to take videos vertically, and photographers benefit more from a rear side screen than one that flips to rear. What Olympus SHOULD do, is license Fuji X-T2/X-T3 display hinge. It is best there is. You get tilting vertical and horizontal for photographers, and screen always stays behind the camera sensor for best position to find perspective and it is fastest to use and operate. BUT Olympus shouldn't forget those few floggers either..... Add a NFC to camera and Bluetooth LE for instant pairing smartphone to camera. So that one can instantly just turn camera On and then touch camera with phone and get remote control on phone screen. Then just press big RED circle to start camera recording while you see live view on phone screen. And you can make all adjustments on phone (as now) as well tap faces who to track. No one wants to hold camera on their faces for ugly perspective distortion, so you need to have camera 4-5 meters from you. And no one is going to stare a 3" display from that distance for anything! No, what you want is to have smartphone on your palm and there you see everything, you make exposure adjustments and focusing via that way and then start recording, put phone away and do your video. Pick phone and stop recording. This has been possible since E-M1 and vloggers doesn't use it, because they have been brainwashed that everyone must have either ugly noses or try to see that tiny side articulating screen from meters distance, and they have ruined not just photographers workflow, but as well their own by demanding idiotic Canon invented screen hinge as they do not know better! Even Olympus had long time ago better hinges in their Camedia series (IIRC C-6060) that flipped upwards and rotated around if needed.

[@raulpavel3d]

I have a Sony Xperia 1 iii

[@cinematicblues]

Mic drop? :)

[@dayeah765caoni3]

I would have gotten it if I had purchased PEN epl8 for the same price...

[@lorenschwiderski]

I bought the PEN PL-8 for $349 with a kit lens and the EM10 mark II body for $349 which are both really well priced compared to other cameras. Both are all metal, thus I still don't get why the mark III would be bought in favor of a mark II all metal camera? About a couple years ago I bought the Panasonic GX85 with two lenses. Today you can still buy it on the cheap! The G85 + zoom lens is also a deal under $700. -Loren lorenschwiderski.smugmug.com/

[@cmartin_ok]

Either you got the epl8 very overpriced, or you missed out on a bargain 10 mk III (based on uk prices, anyway)

[@lorenschwiderski]

@@cmartin_ok In USA Adorama has some white colored ones left www.adorama.com/iomepl8wk.html for $280 with lens -- pretty low price.

[@YannisSinadinos]

The plastic feeling is really annoying for me... even for a entry level camera. I wanted a second body smaller than my EM1.2 but probably going to buy the EM5.3 or penf

[@TL-xw6fh]

Do you know that the Canon EOS and the Nikon D5000/7000 series are plastic bodied? I bet you did not know, and yet NOBODY complains about them.

[@lorenschwiderski]

@@TL-xw6fh Were those not always a polycarbonate, or whatever plastic used? Since the Olympus was first introduced as a retro-look in a new mirrorless camera as metal, people got accustom to that look and feel. Once you do this, going to plastic just seems wrong. Function wise it may be no difference. Hard to say. Are there not people stating they had a broken tripod mount? I rarely, if ever, use a tripod, but some people do. I own both Olympus cameras and Panasonic GX85, which feels very solid indeed. I still do love that metal on Olympus though. For a starter camera, I am thinking maybe that Panasonic G85 with 12-60 lens (China) combo for under $700 is well priced. I think Olympus has an edge on low light performance, but all MFT camera are OK in good light situations. -Loren lorenschwiderski.smugmug.com/

[@TL-xw6fh]

@@lorenschwiderski Actually the Nikon D5300 is metal bodied, but it was changed to polycarbonate with the D5600. The same goes for the equivalent D7000 series, which is a prosumer camera (many pros use that as a backup to the D500). There is actually nothing wrong with polycarbonate bodies as there is still a metal carcass within it that carries all the hardware. The outer case is shock absorbent (I know as I dropped my Panasonic G3 on the road and it survived to tell the tale, still functioning 100% ). Years ago, I dropped my Leica M2 as it slipped off my shoulder and I had to have the deformed bottom plate and cracked the split screen rangefinder optic replaced. It cost me £450+ to replace in 1977!!! As for the broken tripod mount, as there does not appear to be any evidence supporting that allegation yet, I am keeping an open mind. Polycarbonate bodies were first introduced by Canon with the AE-1 in 1976 (?) and Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Sony, Fuji etc have used it extensively since. Interestingly, Olympus only just recently joined the bandwagon for the prosumer cameras, having learnt how to build tough cameras with the Olympus Tough series. These are all plastic bodied, and nobody complained about cracking bodies.

[@lorenschwiderski]

@@TL-xw6fh I did not know that. I own a D5000 & a D3500. The plastic fantastic small D3500 feels great in hand. For looks, I am still loving the Olympus retro metal cameras. I will say my Panasonic feels solid -- great plastic build.

[@momchilyordanov8190]

This is a camera I was really interested in buying, but did not because the stupid and completely unnecessary restriction of the electronic shutter. In the previous version it was allowed to be used it in all modes. In mark III only in some kind of automated mode. Why making a new model camera, STRIPPING DOWN functions from the previous one? One of the main advantage of mirrorless is the option to shoot in silence. Well, not with this one, unless you are happy with "dumb-mode". It still makes me mad, when I think about it.

[@happyguardian2000]

Isn’t m4/3 dead?

[@DavidYeunghk]

Jimmy are you Hongkonger?

[@Red35Photography]

Yes.

[@DavidYeunghk]

Red35 Photography Would you make some Cantonese video?

[@Red35Photography]

@@DavidYeunghk I would and possibility in my new channel :) This RED35 remains English.

[@vicibox]

Hmmmm no, your wish list would be a deal breaker for me; I wont buy any camera with a fully articulated screen and all the other things are stuff I just turn off. I like basic good quality cameras with as few features as possible. It needs to do the things I do want extremely well and produce fantastic photos. I would prefer a completely new entry model and add tilting viewfinder, the now general 20MP sensor, Olympus needs to design a decent shutter this one is rubbish (no, software fixes are not a solution to shutter shock). I am finding more and more that I always buy the older model of cameras as, increasingly, I hate the new models. Nothing wrong with the basic M10, a great camera, in my view the more they mess with it the further they move from the design aesthetic that created it and the more bloated and worse it gets (points at Sony, I really hated the A7MkIII with venom). I really dont approve of this modern fad of gradually evolving a model (they all do it now, not just Olympus) instead of making a new model explicitly designed for the present market. Olympus used to do this so well but now, they have just got lazy. This camera was absolutely perfect for when it was designed, now its just par for the course. Olympus desperately needs to rethink this segment of the market or they will progressively lose market share. Panasonic designs new cameras for particular markets and brings out more flagship models in a year than Olympus does in an era, not just a range of different priced models. I think this MkIII is the end point of its evolution not a platform for upgrade. We need a new entry level Olympus camera not another OM1 MkXXX, its so 2010s. People respect Olympus because their innovative design aesthetic is often stunning but, they have taken to milking their past; this doesn't produce a great future it just becomes old fashioned and this is 2020 supposedly the era of silver hats and flying cars not a re-visit to the 1970s. Have fun - winks ;-)

[@RobShootPhotos]

Maybe they should build an E-M10 Classic and continue to build it for 20+ years like the Pentax K-1000. In 20 years we will have a 50-60mp global shutter MFT with many different AI and computational options that don't exist today and kids in college will have the legendary E-M10 classic to learn photography with.

[@TL-xw6fh]

I use the electronic shutter 95% of the time and for the rest, I use first curtain mode, so there's never an issue with shutter shock. Indeed, the electronic shutter is so good that I never had an issue with rolling shutter, zilch.

[@FuckYouTubeForHandles]

In so many years they were uncapable to add pinch to zoom functionality... It's a serious dealbreaker for some potential customers (especially for non-professionals this camera intended to as people get used to using pinch to zoom on their smartphones and tablets).

[@DonegalOverlanding]

This camera is absolutely useless if you want to film in 4K and have any notions of panning left or right. I'm now returning mine to Olympus where they have admitted it's not capable of filming in 4K and panning unless moving ultra slowly. There only advice was to go to 1080p..... You can see the "3 weeks at the bodyshop" on my channel if you want to see evidence of the video I complained about. Any panning and its all motion blur. Olympus state "Its a still camera with 4k video function". That was it for me, nevermind whatever the future holds with the sale etc.