One Month With a YT Izzo

[@misciaxxx]

Hey, about the rear axle lever, it should be the standard DT swiss lever, so just pull it towards you and you can rotate it freely and position the lever where you prefer, usually pointing backwards so you don't hit it with your foot!: )

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Thanks for the tip! I should have assumed there was a way to adjust that but I didn’t see anything obvious when I looked over the axle.

[@red6743]

Can confirm this to be correct.

[@field.palmer]

It took me about 1.5 years to accidentally discover that

[@TheRicardoSanchez]

I have a Capra. You should be able to pull the rear axle handle/lever out - it's on a tension spring - and rotate it rearward to get it out of potential striking position.

[@sectionate999]

Great video, i've had my Izzo Pro around 6 weeks and the twist loc failed! Thanks to your video I have found the same remote level in the UK - Just what I was looking for! We have the same saddle too, so comfy

[@03BigBear]

Thanks for the multiple IZZO vids you put out. A wealth of knowledge, especially on the faulty lockout remote. Having a heads up before my IZZO comes in august allows me to prepare for that issue

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Glad to help! I have been really enjoying mine.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@Lauren Stivers Nice! Try it out with the stock tires before you swap them over, but let me know how you feel about having the meaty tires on the bike once you do switch! I'm still using the Forecasters.

[@Advlifenet]

Thanks the review. I am still waiting for mine, so I have to live through others experiences. 🤣

[@mickfromrocky]

Really nice review. I really like this genre of bike and see it as the future or at least one the bike companies push for . I like how you mentioned the stack Hight being short as this is often mentioned and being a rider that likes a taller stack this was a issue when I was searching for my next bike. Also the crank length. I too am finding my 175’s are getting bashed on climbs and had to change technique which is ok. You also bought up a really interesting topic on bar sizing for XXL bikes. I’ve always wondered this exact same thing and believe spec should be fitted to the size of the frame / rider. All in all I really like this kind of bike and it really suits you. The reason I didn’t go this style was I knew I would just try to beef it up to do bigger trails . A mate just got a Capra this week and it’s stunning. Amazing build quality and attention to detail . Hope you have many years of fun with the izzo

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I hope so too! I'm trying my best to resist beefing it up haha. I've still got my Offering, so it would be stupid of me to make this bike into another version of that... but it's still tempting lol.

[@mickfromrocky]

Lost In The Woods haha I know right . It would be a boss too I think but I like what you did with the stem and bars . I was really surprised to see the original tires on too . Must be so tempting . It would be a great bike to do all day rides with no plan other than riding . Really good choice to add to the offering.

[@speedykillz2801]

I'm Curious about the Transition Spur... I would love it if you could do a review and Comparison Video.. I'm really liking the Spur. But, for 2000 less.. the IZZO looks very appealing.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Haha, I'd love to do a video on the Spur too! These are just my personal bikes though, so until a demo day rolls through town I don't really have a way to get my hands on one.

[@aaronburela432]

Yes dude! Looks great, and probably rides great 👍

[@historicalthinking7212]

Good review! [The good info is at the end so stay tuned for it]. I've owned my XL for about the same time and agree with what you said. My TwistLoc is still working fine but it's only a matter of time until it gets changed (for new grips if nothing else). I also really don't like the 175 mm cranks. That's actually a big bummer because they are carbon XO1 and hugely expensive to replace. I've owned lighter and better climbing bikes and bigger and bad-er bikes, but the Izzo really hits a sweet "trail bike" spot. Lovely.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Thank you, glad you liked it!

[@historicalthinking7212]

@asolthane I considered trying that but decided to try to get used to 175 mm again (ran them for decades but have had 170 on my last two bikes). I'm sure they are worth something, but at least in my group of friends, no one is looking for long cranks. Seems like that's an old school thing like 68 degree head angles and 73 degree seat angles.

[@i2ambler2002]

I am considering an IZZO - but wondering about sizing.. I am 6'1 with a 33 inseam and a bit of a long torso. I have traditionally ridden size large. Modern geometry has changed a bit I guess, and am wondering what your measurements are in comparison for the XL? I usually prefer a bit smaller rather than large and unwieldy. Thanks!

[@historicalthinking7212]

@@i2ambler2002 We are very similar in size. You can fit on either bike. I chose XL knowing it would feel big in tight switchbacks but stable going down (it does). If I sized down I've gained a bit of one and lost a bit of the other. It's always annoying to have to make that choice when you're in-between but look at it as an advantage since you can choose and get the bike that fits your intended use and desire. (The XL does come with a 170 mm dropper which IMO is an advantage)

[@mikenbikes9192]

@@i2ambler2002 same height and in seam what did you end up getting

[@therria337]

I've hit that rear quick release a few times early on, on my CAPRA as well.

[@johnsprague1678]

Looks like heartland in Victoria?

[@MR.Caballeroo]

Hi, how tall are you and what size is the bike?

[@adamthompsongt21]

Looks like a One up EDC in the stear tube?

[@colemitchmtb]

Hey man, I just wanted to say thanks for the videos! I decided to purchase an Izzo largely due to your content, and I am so excited for it to get here! Just curious, when you purchased yours did it have an "available by" date and if so, about how long after that did you get it?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I don't think mine had an arrive by date, but I think the Vancouver area is a bit of a special case for YT bikes. They actually loaded up a pickup with a trailer and hand delivered the bikes to everyone who had ordered one haha. It came one week after I ordered it.

[@colemitchmtb]

@@lost_in_the_woods thanks for the reply! Mines actually getting here today, 6 days after I ordered it! I’m super stoked to build it up and ride it!

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@@colemitchmtb That's awesome dude, enjoy it! I just got some Dissector tires for mine that I haven't put on yet, I'm excited to see how it rides with beefier tires.

[@robwilkins304]

@@colemitchmtb hows the bike dude?

[@colemitchmtb]

@@robwilkins304 I absolutely love it! It climbs so efficiently, and is so light. I’m coming from a super aggressive aluminium bike (specialized stumpy evo) and this bike feels just as good through the chunk and 5x as good on the climbs!

[@PetrolHead209]

Great videos. I'm thinking about getting the IZZO Comp, hopefully it's just as fun as this version.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I’m sure it would be!

[@hesko125]

If it can handle NC it should be good in asheville nc. I just worry if it's not enough travel. I like commencal bikes too but they are like 34 lbs. I am torn

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I'm not familiar with the riding around Asheville, but I do understand your concern. I'd talk to the experienced riders in your area and see what sorts bikes they're using, then base your choice off of that. My philosophy on suspension travel is to get as little as I can while still having a bike that will excel on the trails I ride the most, that way I'm not lugging around a lot of extra weight and suspension on the majority of my rides. The compromise there is maybe I'll have to go a bit slower or be more careful with my line choices if I go to an area with gnarlier than normal trails, but personally I think that's worth the trade off.

[@j.s.k.7746]

Did YT ever address the twist grip concern?

[@StraightLine_MTB]

Great feedback. Very interested in this bike as a quick light climber. Concerned about it's descending abilities as I like to smash a bit. The value is crazy good.

[@colemitchmtb]

Fancy seeing you here! I see you pulled the trigger and went for it haha

[@StraightLine_MTB]

@@colemitchmtb 😆, I did. Very happy with it so far. Full review coming soon

[@colemitchmtb]

@@StraightLine_MTB awesome, can’t wait to see it!

[@1brenmaster]

I heard YT size up on the small side. What height are you and what size did you get ? Asking as I’ll probably want to shorten stem and widen bars when I get one too

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I'm 6'6", I got the XXL.

[@TheGreaterU]

Looks like the new Blaze Isso edition doesn't have that lockout and comes with wider bars.. maybe they watched your review!?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Hah, maybe! I think it was pretty common feedback.

[@mtbboy1993]

Great video. Grea title too, well explained, showcased.👌

[@Alex-yj2ed]

Good quality video. !! Could you list your modifications in the description? I agree 175mm cranks make it less versatile but they wanted to make this bike the faster on trails guess. it is an expensive part to change, not sure it worth it. Knowing all this cons, would you buy it again? I believe it is still a good package on the paper.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Good idea, I added a list to the description. I think overall the package is still a very good deal, and the bike itself is super fun to ride. Had the Transition Spur been out when I ordered this bike I might've had a hard time picking between the two, but the value you get with the Spur is obviously much worse than with YT. None of the cons are really deal breakers to me, so overall I wouldn't say that I regret with my choice. My biggest long term concern is customer support, which admittedly hasn't been great so far... but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now considering how crazy the world is going for bikes right now.

[@Alex-yj2ed]

@@lost_in_the_woods Kinda agree with you, the customer support would be the major drawback if it appears not to be proficient. that's a gamble with direct to consumer business model. But even Canyon doesn't beat the price. Thanks for the list btw. As for the AMS, you got the clear one, right? I believe I'll try a with color one as the clear doesn't seems to work great with a matte paint. You need those protections especially when you want to resale your bike.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@@Alex-yj2ed Yes, I got the clear one. I recently found out about these guys, you might want to check them out! They even make kits for matte paint. Looks like a really good choice but I haven't tried their products myself. groundkeepercustom.com/shop/clear-frame-keeper

[@Alex-yj2ed]

@@lost_in_the_woods Gotcha, I thought it was an AMS one (corrected in my previous message). I actually asked YT for suggestion and they recommended me AMS. It is also available on amazon US for cheaper than their own store. I will share the result once I got my bike.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@@Alex-yj2ed Sorry for the confusion - yes, the one on my bike is the clear AMS protection kit! I was just suggesting the other one as an alternative because I did not like how the AMS one turned out.

[@lelev760]

I hate the Sram lockout grips. Same thing happened to me

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I've heard that from several other people now, it seems like it's far from an isolated issue. I wonder if we'll see the same grip on next year's Izzo.

[@calebwonhas8880]

@@lost_in_the_woods I contacted YT about my Twistloc on my Launch Edition within the first week of having it and requested a fox lockout lever. They 2 day air-shipped me one.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@@calebwonhas8880 Glad they sorted it out for you so fast! I'm still waiting on mine, the new ETA is midway through September. If it does come that'll be 2 months since I broke the thing haha.

[@giancacaccia]

Can i use the remote control of dit swiss for the shock, for the control open medium and block?

[@Intentsrig]

I’m kinda confused about the water bottle situation. I just un screwed the two plastic plate bolts and attached the cage in those bolt holes. Those bolts are long and it worked. I didn’t bother with the little rubber grommets and adding those nuts underneath because the bolts were too long even when attaching the cage. Am I missing something?

[@TorbenOhneH]

Really like the bike and the changes you did so far! Got an Izzo myself about two months ago and thinking about putting either a 35mm or a 42,5mm stemm on it... Did the 40mm stem is as short as you would go or recommend or would you even go shorter? I am between sizes at 6'1 and sized up to a XL and currently using 800mm (maybe cutting down to 780 in future but not sure about it yet) handlebars with 35mm rise and a 50mm stem.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

The 40mm feels just about right! I haven't tried anything shorter though, I only went with 40mm because I had this stem laying around. I did do some back to back testing with the 60mm stem and definitely prefer the 40 to the 60.

[@TorbenOhneH]

@@lost_in_the_woods Thank you for the answer! Have to say that it's still itching in my fingers to try the 35mm tho because of focus on descending... Definitly going to give it a try. Thanks again and have fun riding!

[@mikenbikes9192]

@@TorbenOhneH I'm 6 foot and considering the XL. What do you think I have a 33 inch inseam and was considering shortening the stem? Haven't ordered yet and torn between xl and large, ahh

[@TorbenOhneH]

@@mikenbikes9192 I recently sized down and now ride a 2020 L TREK Rail. I like that definetely more an would size down the next time but i have never ridden a L IZZO...

[@popoypoop]

Did u have to re-wire also or only the mechanism u changed?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I had to replace the wire too. I probably could have re used the old one, but it frayed when I was removing it. I was able to use the same cable housing though so it was easy, just pushed the cable through and it popped out the other end.

[@popoypoop]

Lost In The Woods cool!

[@mikestivers8302]

@@lost_in_the_woods if i had to do this again, i'd just get a new cable. i took the entire grip lock apart and destroyed it to get the cable out LOL. the lever i got was just like yours and works fine.

[@ericroy9974]

hello there tks for the video ,,i would like to know what is the lock out lever you found ???

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I linked to it in the description there, it's canadian amazon though so might not be available if you don't live here.

[@ericroy9974]

@@lost_in_the_woods got it tks a lot , i live in Montreal it will work , rode the bike i am stoke , i own a capra and a Jeffsey but love the izzo

[@rickyhill5263]

Excellent honest review, the gripes are small apart from the lockout lever which is a shame. But looks like you have a decent fix there. I'm north of England based and the Izzo just sounds perfect. My only concern is a 130 fork, I run a 140 on my hardtail at the moment and sometimes wish I had a little more. I'm sure if it's handling BC trails it will smash UK stuff. The weight / capability balance is something I've been looking for in a bike for a long time. I tend to ride all day 6-7 hrs and a heavy full sus becomes a real ball ache. From your review this sounds like an all day beast. Is there any other bike that you would consider over the Izzo. Ripley, SB130 Etc.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

If the Transition Spur had been available when I ordered this bike I would've been tempted! I also considered the Santa Cruz Tallboy, but ended up leaning towards the Izzo because of the value you get. I did look a bit at the Ripley and SB100, but neither of them come in a size large enough for someone my height (198cm).

[@rickyhill5263]

@@lost_in_the_woods I must admit the value can't be ignored on the YTs. I know a couple of guys who have Capras, too much bike for my needs. What's your impression of the build quality, any issues with BB creak? press fit frames seem to be very hit or miss. I suppose this is the issue with direct to consumer, seeing one in the flesh is difficult. Your reviews are a great insight, not even bike mags have managed to put anything together yet.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@@rickyhill5263 I haven't had any issues with creaks or noises on the ride, it's actually a surprisingly quiet bike for how many cables are hanging off the bars haha. The bike seems really solid and well thought out, with nice touches like extra places to mount an accessory on the bottom of the top tube and a little hole for water to drain out of on the lower shock mount. Really the only issue I've had with the parts is the lockout grip.

[@popoypoop]

Very good review! Hows the crankbrother pedal, is it easy to take foot off the pedal?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I'm a big fan of crankbrother's pedals. Unclipping is around as easy as any other clipless system, but what I really like is they're the only clipless pedal I've tried to give me that "flat pedal" feel. So it really feels like riding on a flat pedal but with the added security that a clipless system adds. The only downside I've come across so far is the cleats can wear out fairly quickly & when they're worn your foot can come out when you're not expecting it.

[@popoypoop]

Lost In The Woods well said, thanks! I also just ordered my izzo, hopefully itll come soon...

[@VisualSOLUTIONSMedia]

Nice review! Did you consider the Jeffsy, or were you looking for something more agile? XXL? What's your height (and weight)? I'm 6-4, 200. I'm in Miami, you're so lucky to live in BC!!!

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I didn't consider the Jeffsy because I've already got an Evil Offering, I wanted something to kinda fill in the slot below it that had shorter travel & lighter weight. I'm 6'6" and 220lbs, so XXL seemed like the obvious choice to me. It fits well.

[@VisualSOLUTIONSMedia]

@@lost_in_the_woods That makes sense, it's "a good fit" for that slot. Speaking of which- that's a lot of bike and body to thread through the trees! ;^)

[@mikenbikes9192]

@@lost_in_the_woods is the bike poppy and playful

[@keithhammers7404]

What size shoes do you wear? I wear 47’s and closer to 6’2”. XL is my size Yeah the stealth Maxle Through Axles are nice. I just picked up a few for my Steel HT. I am also debating on the Canyon Neuron CF. Mostly XC trails here in flatland North Texas but wanted a more capable bike that I could also race XC on. Neuron looks like it has a better drivetrain but less (modern) aggressive GEO. Izzo has better brakes and $200 USD less

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I wear a size 14 US - I think that's around size 48 EU. If you're looking to race XC I'm not sure I'd get the Izzo - maybe check out the recent pinkbike XC field test. That new Specialized looks pretty promising!

[@kamilbabusek3968]

Excellent review, LiTW! Extra thanks for the modification tips... I´m about to move from cross country HT to full suspension bike now. I have chosen YT IZZO but I do still hesitate between Comp and Pro versions. I´m similar size and weight as you (200cm/95kg), I would describe my riding style as a less aggressive XC + occasional flow trails, riding MTB is not my prime sort of sports. I would appreciate your opinion (or anyone else here) if IZZO Comp on SRAM NX would be OK for me or should I grab for the IZZO Pro? The difference in price is 900€ here. Both models will be in XXL size ready in about 2 months. Thanks for your feedback, greetings from Europe!

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Either bike will be capable of the same things, the more expensive version will just feel a bit more "refined" and be lighter if that makes sense.

[@yusliyusof2902]

Can you share where you bought the rear shock flip switch please?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

You bet, there's a link in the description to it

[@independenttraveling]

Hey just wondering if your changed the remote lockout or did you have a bike shop do it. I have my bike at a shop and they are struggling with the shock, if could you lend some information that would be great

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I did it myself - found it pretty simple honestly, so I'm not sure what the bike shop would be having problems with. The shock is locked out by default, maybe that's throwing them off? I just pulled the cable out of the housing and then threaded a new one through, looped it around the lockout switch and set the pinch bolt then trimmed the cable & put a cap on the end.

[@independenttraveling]

I bought and installed the fox remote and it works great.

[@achristenson11]

I've got a question. I've been looking at an IZZO for a few weeks now, I like YT and the great value for the cost that you get with these bikes. The design of the IZZO I think makes a lot of sense for me in that I'm from the midwest where we don't really have much technical downhill trails. My question is about the different models of the IZZO. I'm pretty new to mountain biking, but I really want to get better and to have a good experience with my bike in the sport. My budget can accommodate the IZZO Pro Race, but is it worth it as a beginner? My worry about the Comp is that I have it for several months and end up wanting a higher end bike or to upgrade all my components ultimately spending even more than getting the Pro Race off the bat would cost. Are the components in the comp likely good enough to keep me satisfied long enough for it to make sense purchasing that over the Pro Race?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I'd say get the comp. The parts are still very nice, and as a newer rider it's quite possible you wouldn't even notice a lot of the more subtle (but expensive) differences in spec between the models anyways - your mind will be focused on other things. When you've progressed enough to learn what you really like and dislike in a mountain bike you can use the money you saved to customize your Izzo to be a perfect fit for your preferences, and have a completely unique bike to boot.

[@davidbermudez5387]

Really nice bike 🔥🔥

[@tomascalder6825]

Hi; is the bottom bracket press fit or threaded.

[@colemitchmtb]

All of YT's bikes are PF

[@ederler1129]

What tires do you have on the bike and what are you going to put on next? Thanks

[@lost_in_the_woods]

The bike comes with 2.35 Maxxis Forecasters, I was thinking about trying a 2.3 Maxxis DHF for the front and a 2.3 Maxxis Dissector in the rear when the weather turns wet again.

[@Zudo-Q]

Did you try to change the position of the flip chip to avoid pedal strikes or to test the overall feel of the "steeper version"?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I actually haven't touched the flip chip at all. As a tall guy I find I tend to prefer bikes in the lower setting to get my center of gravity as low as possible anyways, and the bike already feels extra maneuverable to me compared to what I normally ride haha.

[@tsj8762]

Any update on YT customer service in Canada? I’m interested in the bike but very concerned about dealing with YT.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I submitted the original ticket on July 15th and they responded on August 3rd, asking for my address so they could send me a new twistlock remote. It is now August 19th and I still haven't received the remote.

[@unfussysplash]

Can you remove the remote lockout and switch it to a normal switch that’s on most bikes? Just ditch the whole remote lock thing all together? Just wondering. My izzo gets here in November.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Because the shock defaults to a locked position it wouldn't be as easy as just taking the remote off, but if you had the technical know how or just sent it over to a service center they could swap it over to a 3 position lever for you. It's not cheap though!

[@davidm6751]

So I’ve heard you can’t change grips cause of the twisty-suspension dampener thingy? Is this true?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

You can change grips but you’ll need to get a different suspension lockout system too.

[@davidm6751]

@@lost_in_the_woods someone said the 2021 doesn’t have the lockout !

[@lost_in_the_woods]

@@davidm6751 That's true, if you're getting a model without the lockout you don't have to worry about it at all.

[@jhigztv5989]

“ the tire buzzing the inside of the chainstays” Is this true?

[@lost_in_the_woods]

I haven't heard it myself but I'm also not the most adept corner shralper so probably not the best person to ask.

[@AntonioVillagomez]

Hey, great videos about the Izzo! How long did it take you to get the bike after you ordered it? On the YT site it says they are not available till November but I wonder if that means it'll take a couple of months after that to actually get it. Thx!!

[@lost_in_the_woods]

It took one week after I placed the order to get the bike.

[@waynemcgaughey4685]

How tall are you and what size did you go with? I need to know:D

[@lost_in_the_woods]

6’6”/ 198cm, XXL

[@conorintemann7872]

I’m 6’8” riding a XXL Capra. Had to replace fork to get a better height on the stem. Looking seriously at this bike, with the longer steer tube and my 210 dropper from OneUp. How have you find the sizing besides what you mentioned with 760 bars? Comfortable all day pedaling? Hunched over during descent? Thanks for info!

[@RATBURL]

Sounds like YT needs to get there shit together with the customer service😏

[@brian_simmons_]

100% get yourself an axle without that lever sticking out. Could get ugly one day if it gets loose and you didn't notice.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

Yeah, I think I’ll do that regardless. A few people have pointed out that it’s possible to reposition where the lever handle rests, but it still sketches me out and it’s not like I’m taking the rear wheel off all the time.

[@outofbody4788]

Ever hear back from YT? I keep hearing they customer service sucks

[@GF-cb8rr]

Customer service from the USA distributor in San Clemente has always been great for me.

[@sinetwo]

I'm quite concerned about you contacting YT support and not hearing back for a week. That's pretty shit.

[@lost_in_the_woods]

They did end up shipping me a replacement lockout around 4 months later.