Open Bar #14 - Last Orders (feat. MauLer)

[@alk3rio97]

The part people seem to always ignore, is that Valkyrie became a literal slaver...she took people as slaves and sold them. But that's totally cool and can be king now.

[@RRTNZ]

Yeah, she was also a deserter who survived by hiding under the bodies of dead comrades. Then she ran away from Asgard and crawled into a bottle ( while working as a slaver - who knew full well that most of the people she captured were going to die in the arena). But she's cool because....snappy banter. F off Marvel.

[@ronniedio7013]

She's a villian.

[@papabull8993]

SJW Heroes make the best villains.

[@SolarDragon007]

Ragnarok was such garbage in general. It's difficult to think of a more horrendous instance of the MCU's tone deaf comedy than that movie.

[@blutygr3158]

@@SolarDragon007 Remember when Bruce Banner jumped out the ship and hit the Bridge before changing into Hulk? I saw that and knew the MCU just died.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Something cozy about these catchups with Drinker and Longman.

[@victora6565]

Bioshock’s story works bc the politic in it isn’t aggressively trying to educate you about what’s right or wrong. Instead they go in a route that shows a deeply flawed man obsessed over control and utilitarianism.

[@All_Hail_Chael]

I like the way it was just "here's some politics" and not "Hey, I know no one was gender fluid when A New Hope came out but lemme tell you how Im gender-fluid" in Star Wars Squadrons. I'm fine with poltics in games and even allegorys, what I dont want is some 20 year old know nothing telling me I am a bad person for not having the same views they never even had 5 minutes ago.

[@jimofthenorth8090]

Lovecraft is so difficult to make a movie about because most of the horror of his work is mental. There was a fantastic 3 series run of Lovecraft tales on BBC sounds, search for the Case of Charles Dexter Ward. It works great on radio because they use sound really well to evoke creepiness and unease.

[@alex9x9]

I agree that psychological horror is hard to render well on screen but not impossible. The reason why no one is adapting Lovecraft is because he was racistisistis and people are unable to separate the artist from the art.

[@alex9x9]

P.s. I think that the recent "The colour from outer space" with Nick Cage wasn't bad.

[@jimofthenorth8090]

@@alex9x9 yeah I've been told that a few times, need to check it out.

[@hencesmidt668]

From beyond and in the mouth of madness are great psychological horrors

[@alex9x9]

@@hencesmidt668 in the mouth of madness is a grat movie and you can see the Lovecraft inspiration pouring from it but it wasn't an adaptation of any of his works

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

I would like to see Nick Cage do a Taken style movie called Nicholas Rage.

[@bewmdogg]

Nah it's called Stolen

[@bewmdogg]

Nah it's called Stolen

[@drdeadbeat1604]

I'd like to see him play a wizard called Nicolas Mage

[@weismeister121]

@@drdeadbeat1604 he already did play a mage...Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010)

[@drdeadbeat1604]

@@weismeister121 that masterpiece deserves a retitle

[@katnerd6712]

imagine if they'd cast Charlize Theron as Valkyrie and given the character a redemption arc to deal with her abandoning Asgard. Imagine them casting actors who actually look like Northern Europeans as characters based on Northern European mythology.

[@zidahya]

To be fair. Asgard is not the northern european mythology. Most of the royal family resembles the mythos which is quite enough. And people will just make them look like themself when they write about their gods. Think about we picture Jesus as a white man, which is pretty unlikely given the region his adventure takes place.

[@max0304]

@@zidahya no but it's not Zulu , Tajik or Chinese folklore - it comes from these cold half island countries in the north of Europe. I mean there should be enough stories from around the world to adapt if u want to be inclusive - i would prefer that approach instead of having existing material reinvented by huge corporations that then turn around and tell us "XY has always been black" yyyeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh no.

[@gman7497]

I don't really feel comfortable with being exclusionary with fantasy stuff, the racial makeup can be whatever as far as I'm concerned just keep politics out of it. Real world politics doesn't apply to middle-earth, asgard, etc. I get that traditionalists wanna keep things as originally conceived, but you're talking about perspectives that are decades or centuries old. There needs to be some concessions to make it relatable.

[@gman7497]

@Kermit with an AK not at all, I watched all the LoTR films and they make me bawl eyes out, they're amazing films and I don't NEED to have PoC in them to make them good. What I'm saying is that having one or two diverse characters in this series will not destroy it, especially since we don't even know the context of anything. Maybe the elf guy has Easterling blood or something. I'm just saying we shouldn't have a hair trigger response every time we see a colored person in a fantasty or sci fi film. I understand the concern about wokeness and politics and I don't want to be preached to either, but I also don't want it to get to a point where we become completely intolerant of ANY diversity in films at all. I think the concession would be less for myself and more for people who identify with racial makeup more strongly. I understand that it shouldn't matter but it realistically it does to many people. You can have a slight nod to it and still hold true to the essence of the story, imo. We all need to stop being so hard line about everything and give just a little or none of this stuff will ever get fixed. If the series becomes all about identity politics and soapbox shit, I'll be the first to call it out. But just the addition of a couple minority characters shouldn't be a deal breaker, in the absence of any other information.

[@Shiirow]

A lovecraftian childrens show "Kid'thulu and Madness Mayhem Gang"

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

Best South Korean zombie show: "Kingdom." Hands down, the best zombie show right now.

[@mortoopz]

1:20:30 Yes, you can get a black powder rifle in the UK. We can in fact get a LOT of guns (e.g. regular rifles), for the most part just nothing automatic and no pistols (unless they are breech loaded). The process to get them is a bit of a pain though, including a face to face interview with (if I recall correctly) your local chief of police, you must buy (and bolt down) and use an approved gun locker (which is required to be accessible for police inspections with (I believe) no advanced warning), ammo must be stored separately (and just as secure)... it goes on. We can get em, but nobody can be arsed to do so... we just don't have a gun culture here.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

And all that used to be different before Dunblaine. After Dunblaine was when a lot of those revised laws came in. Still not 'a culture' though, ever, in the same way as other places have.

[@scipioninja]

Sounds almost like here in commiefornia lol

[@axelmercedes]

Loving your podcats brothers, keep it up 💪🏽

[@dionysislarson6352]

The best thing about The Rock was Connery's one-liners. "Your best..." hahaha "What do you want me to do? Kill him again?" hahahah! Oh and MauLer, Tony Todd isn't 'The Candyman' he played the Candyman, true, but Tony Todd IS Kern Son of Mogh! And, he gave us the best Jake Cisco. So yeah! There!

[@BuckyKronk]

You gotta love how Tony Todd's Jake Sisko sacrificed his life so Captain Sisko could return to be a part of young Jake Sisko's life, then Benjamin disappears at the end of the show anyway. The script originally called for Captain Sisko to go be a god permanently and they actually filmed it that way at first with his final conversation with Kasidy Yates. It was only after Avery Brooks the next day or two called the producers and voiced his discomfort with the implications of an absentee black father that they changed it to allow for the possibility Captain Sisko would one day return.

[@dionysislarson6352]

@@BuckyKronk Indeed I do. Mr. Todd did it wonderfully. Actually, just picturing the scene again is bring a little moisture to my eye. I didn't know that about Mr. Brooks though. That sounds like too much like a 90ties/American idea of things. I'm perplexed by the idea of it. Probably because I'm not American. hahahah Yeah, that might be it. I'm surprised that the producers/writers just didn't tell him that there are no more Black people in the 24th cen., or something like that. But, I'm also perplexed by the use of the word, 'Absentee'. From my understanding, that word is used for young students in school, but not for adults. But I can understand the word Absent and I still can't understand that in terms of a family dynamic. But then again, Americans use a myriad of words strange to me. But just taking the base premise, (and if I got it right (ahahah!!!)), Mr. Brooks didn't like the idea of Jake being around without his dad. What's wrong with that, I must ask. The majority of families are 'absent' a mother or a father. HAHAha Perhaps Mr. Books still had that episode with Mr. Todd still going through his head when Mr. Todd said, "I'm doing this for the boy I was. He still needs you.". Damn, that was a powerful scene! Anyway. By the end of the series, Jake is a man himself. He was a war reporter behind enemy lines. He was in battle with Dr. Bashir. He had sex with a myriad of alien Chicks. He lived on his own with Nog. Hell, he was his own man. I wouldn't think of Capt. Cisco as an 'absent "Black" father', but that Jake was his own man and that sometimes, members of the older generation die. I don't think that it mattered though, because the series finally was excellent no matter! But I am happy that the producers/writers listened to Mr. Brooks. Not for the reasons he was concerned for but for the following books. Take care and have a good one.

[@BuckyKronk]

@@dionysislarson6352 "Absent" might have been the better word. Hopefully without getting myself banned by KZbin, the statistics of households that have both a father and a mother among black families in the U.S. are not good. Avery Brooks was uncomfortable playing a role in furthering this stereotype on screen. I can get where he's coming from, and don't care for having Sisko leave forever from a story standpoint either. As I understand it, Sisko returns in the relaunch novels.

[@BuckyKronk]

@@dionysislarson6352 Also, bear in mind even though Jake was an adult, Kasidy was pregnant with Sisko's second child. So there lay the crux of the matter, and Brooks' dissatisfaction with it. Sisko would be skipping out on raising the second child if he left forever at that point.

[@dionysislarson6352]

@@BuckyKronk Ah! Okay, now I get it! I totally forgot about Yates being pregnant! Alrighty. Thanks, Man.

[@Shiirow]

Nick Cage may not have massive talent but the man does have massive charisma.

[@Last_March_of_the_Gents]

That statement is ridiculously wrong he has MASSIVE charisma and limited talent

[@iBeHampe]

Yo! You both really should watch Peanut Butter Falcon ha.. silly name, but it’ll make since.. great movie!! one of my favorites

[@hariman7727]

Event Horizon is 100% Cosmic Horror.

[@weismeister121]

The Warp...from Warhammer 40K

[@johncadden202]

I'd like to here the drinker and mauler pitch a movie idea.

[@SacClass650]

On the subject of art not catapulting the message. I rewatched Hostiles, an underrated recent western that could have flattened its subject matter, but admirably didn't. Instead possessing consistent and nuanced perspectives. I'd recommend it if it passed you by upon its release.

[@tokyosmash]

Ol’ boy saying “my dad gave Batman a C+” is literally one of those guys who blindly shits on anything that is mainline.

[@Chubby-chinZamboni]

This was my take on the batman theme.... The Batman theme is a two-tone melody. Two tones meaning it consists of only two different pitches. They are a major third apart. At times played by just a piano - but more often played bombastically by an orchestra featuring the brass section. In action sequences, it was essentially a march - heavy and cyclical. Like a dark armored figure emerging from the shadows, you can hear the weight of each unrelenting step towards you with each note.... I think the musical symbolism is pretty clear. Cool concept - but the idea has been done before for a certain well-known villain. Darth Vader. And of course, John Williams's Vader/Imperial March from Empire Strikes Back. I will refer to it as Vader's theme. Incidentally, the first part of Vader's theme lays over the two tone theme from The Batman quite nicely. This is because the intro to Vader's theme, which is sort of like a thematic preparation, has the strongest musical similarities to The Batman theme, rather than the multi-intervaled and chromatic theme that follows. Both execute the major third interval on the 4th beat of each measure as well. They have different energies for sure, but I think the similarities between the music and the screen presence of Vader/Batman (or perhaps "Vengeance" would be more appropriate for my case) are apparent. I made the connection upon the first hearing of The Batman theme. Also, it is worth noting that Vader's theme was orchestrated by Williams for harp as well with the theme slowed down and coming off more somber than threatening. See what I'm getting at? I wouldn't go so far as to claim The Batman's theme to be plagiarism or creatively bankrupt. But I do think that ultimately the theme is too minimalistic...and unfortunately, evocative of a much better theme. All of that unsolicited opinion aside, I enjoyed my packed showing of this movie and would like to catch it again.

[@slartibartfast5861]

Fun Fact: Andrew Ryan is also the 2nd principal in Buffy and Quark from Deep Space 9.

[@SolarDragon007]

Ah I didn't know he was voiced by that actor! Quark was one of the best characters on DS9.

[@OsellaSquadraCorse]

Pain & Gain from Michael Bay is an EXCELLENT film. Really fun and very well-helmed in terms of cinematography.

[@wretchardkimball9049]

Dagon is the best HP Lovecraft adaptation I've seen.

[@archstanton9073]

I just figured out that "Last Orders" is the Scottish term for "Last Call".

[@OutragdPickle]

Fantastic vid.

[@FailedBard]

Magrunner: Dark Pulse is the best Lovecraft adaption in a game in my opinion, but it's way more effective if you don't know it's a Lovecraft game when you start playing it. Unfortunately, most people don't have a reason to play it if they don't know that.

[@HyoureiKyouran]

Cool Air (1999) is a rather faithful adaptation of one of Lovecraft's stories.

[@TheXygos]

The Resurrected is a pretty good adaptation of The Case of Charles Dexter Ward.

[@francoednewton1993]

Ever seen color out of space. Pretty good man

[@SvendleBerries]

A movie thats ideologically driven but is still a good movie to me is an oldie but a goodie: The Ten Commandments, with Charlton Heston and Yul Brynner. One of my favorite movies when I was a kid. Never got any religious feelings from it, probably because I was raised in a non-religious household. I just thought it was a good film.

[@eldenvedetta635]

42:00 OMG I had AI generate Endgame with Thor as that badass character and it's AMAZING if anyone wants to hear!

[@sergentspuddy8637]

I am waiting in expectation to see your review on Moonknight. I am more than willing to eat my words depending on the final episode, but it is the best non-netflix modern marvel show. It is mature, dark, gritty, entertaining, interesting and it pulled me in like no Marvel show since Daredevil. It has great characters and takes its sweet time to develop characters and their motivations. The villain is compelling and you can understand his stance even if you do not agree with it. Also best "Strong Female Character" in Phase 4 so far. Edit: Also, Oscar Isaac is a master actor in every sense of the term

[@johnellisbushbush]

“It’s about fucking wizards” in space intended for children?

[@lp8469]

Drinker! Where is my Drinker Plushie?! 😢

[@quigsthevicious]

Schnee's view on Marcus (Arcane) kinda sucks but he's put out a bunch of thought provoking vids. His new one on how the show writes its men is a good take.

[@governorboltz]

Example of a strong female character that came to mind, because I just watched the movie again recently, Valeria in Conan the Barbarian.

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

I can understand someone not wanting to to spend their money on works written by bad people if said bad person benefits in even a small way financially from the transaction. I think that’s a fair thing for a potential customer to do. BUT People need to remember that Lovecraft IS DEAD!! Buying a novel written by him in no way whatsoever supports the man because HE’S DEAD.

[@dynamicds]

Nick Cage movie starts well... Then.... It takes the LIVING piss... The end 😞

[@Jarhead1975]

Favorite Jackie Chan movie is The Drunken Master.

[@Num1n0us]

best law movie - From the Hip :D :D :D

[@Jwnorton]

Did the quality of your videos change - I can only see them in 360p.

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

Nick Cage is into some pretty crazy stuff IRL. He's of course into freemasonry. His tomb in Louisiana is white masonic pyramid.

[@RRTNZ]

Hail Drinker ! Just watching Moon Knight episode 5...... My advice don't bother. Ever want to see an ancient Egyptian goddess depicted as a goofy clueless anthropomorphic hippo ? NAH ME NEITHER ! Sorry, quoting you there. Actually there are a couple of moments of genuine pathos in it, abour Marc's childhood, but they're undercut by all the goofiness.

[@0Sutekinaryuu0]

Moon knight frustrates the hell out of me Writing is so shite and meandering.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@0Sutekinaryuu0 It’s pretty meh

[@ScooterDoge]

36:36 George Carlin, Rodney dangerfield, Tom segura, Chapelle

[@FranksMuseumOfGaming]

Can Mauler go on cam?

[@scottf5791]

No

[@Rurik_Luci]

25:56 which is weird because it was supposed to be that she is Loki's daughter I don't know about Norse mythology as a whole butt in the comics Hella is Loki's daughter for the most part at least Still not sure how she's older or why they made her the older sister I refuse to acknowledge that I still see her as the niece of Thor and I will always see her the younger niece of Thor because that is what she is

[@Darthviewer]

Push was a neat movie.

[@kimbob5]

I did get over the man flu! Cheers lads.

[@EmptyAltruism]

Yo, I’m early! Hi drinker! Hi mauler! And as is tradition, hi rags! Love you guys!

[@dionysislarson6352]

I liked Kirk Thatcher's redid, "I Still Hate You.". That was alright.

[@iannoone64]

Drinker, take a look at Mandy featuring Nic Cage dialled up to 1,000, fucking awesome

[@jamescunningham1844]

The nazgul in the movies kill a hobbit. The only hobbit in the movie

[@cerebralpalsybiker7571]

Critical drinker you had RL on your live stream I can't remember which one ever since I've been watching his channel too he is so funny and I've been watching the young ripper too thank you your channel was awesome and I ain't saying that kiss butt I'm saying that cuz you have an awesome channel and can I say mega pint!!?

[@salubriousscratch3540]

Cage, the kid's got spirit.

[@yanicktodman6771]

What day was this livestream?

[@TwistedBananaProductions]

I took a friend to see Branded. It's weird and not a great movie but quite original. The CGI monsters in the movie actually are just representations of peoples greedy and gluttonous desires. The main character can see them cause he makes a sacrifice to some kind of cow god in the moon or something, purging himself of such desires...I think.

[@wretchardkimball9049]

The Drinker Does America

[@metalarturon]

I know you don't do video games much, but I think you'd enjoy the Yakuza series, it's got manly men solving their problems with their fists mixed with some genuine heartfelt moments and some zany side content that adds a bunch of personality to the main protagonists. I'll go away now.

[@emuman09]

MrH would be great on EFAP

[@libertyprime6932]

Hell yeah, especially if they cover some Lovecraftian thing, like maybe Color Out of Space

[@DSas2300]

2:17:25

[@helenline1790]

2:35 16:30 50:30 1:16:10 1:19:40

[@andrewcoggins187]

Kotaro lives alone

[@andrewcoggins187]

Let's talk about how bad this shit is

[@jonahcronk9379]

Harry Potter is to literature as Star Wars is to film. Low quality product with masterful marketing.

[@RetiredMillennial]

Batman was fucking boring btw, and the second half of it absurd. Surviving a bomb to the face, really? He is wearing a leather mask...

[@scottf5791]

The worst TBI imaginable.

[@RetiredMillennial]

@@scottf5791 His had would be missing lol, and he didn't even have a scratch.

[@scottf5791]

@@RetiredMillennial obviously and if he still managed to survive by some miracle the concussion blast alone would have liquified his internal organs. Such a dumb movie

[@sapphiro]

Arcane took 10 years to make the 1st season. All the time they spend is to polish it's visuals but characters and story are lacking the same level of attention. The animation studio could've collaborated with someone else to adapt more ambitious projects than a shallow video game.

[@GarethColquhoun]

Not last

[@wrayday7149]

I cannot fault Valkyrie's character in Ragnarok. In an instant her entire unit and command is wiped out and it wasn't even a close fight. I can see why it shattered her confidence and she left.

[@151monka]

That is just her backstory. Her actual character sucks.

[@ben_sisko2149]

I gotta say: Always mentioning Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley when talking about "strong female characters" from the past is a bit weird, though. Like, were those the only two characters that come to mind? Because if you ask for male characters I'm sure most people can think of a douzen easily.

[@jakobteichroeb874]

Yeah no, not when put on the spot. Sometimes you gotta think a little and when asked, the top ones come to mind quickly.

[@captbuckyohare5585]

Fine. Strong/powerful/great female characters to avoid the "I'm on the spot, shit, say Sarah Connor" issue: Buffy, Xena, Dana Scully, Clarice Starling, Laurie Strode, Jessica Jones, Selina Kyle, La Femme Nikita, The Bride, Lara Croft, Selene (Underworld), Eowyn, Princess Leia, Trinity, Mary fucking Poppins, Lisbeth Salander, 98 Mulan, Cara Dune, Leeloo Dallas Multipass, Marla from Fight Club, Leslie Knope, Olivia Benson, Peggy Carter, Claire Underwood, Cercei Lannister, WONDER WOMAN, Lois Lane, Vesper Lynd, Annie Wilkes, Most of the Horror genre, Most Dr. Who Companions, most Disney leads, Hit-Girl, and JESSICA FUCKING RABBIT.

[@captbuckyohare5585]

@Subpar JennaTalia It's just a bit of fun lad. You calm down. And I edited as I remembered more. But you spaff away.

[@skylx0812]

The thing about Ripley was that the film was made during the Carter years (1977 - 1980) which were very lean times. There were huge shortages and long gas lines. The character was originally written as male but they took a chance of making them female. It opened to mix reviews and the top ctitics of the time, Siskel & Ebert later revised their lukewarm response to the film and came to consider it one of scifi's best. It was basically borne out of adverse times and has endured, thats why Ripley often gets top billing when lists of strong female characters get mentioned.

[@skylx0812]

In fact, a lot of IP's that are considered pop culture classics in film, television and music were produced during those very tough years, 1977 to 1980. Star Wars, Superman, ALIEN, The Empire Strikes Back, Blade Runner, Raiders of the Lost Ark... and on and on.

[@CreepyHollow]

Hah, the envious salt whenever you mention Harry Potter to the Drinker. Of course you don't care about them, you were like 25 when they first released. An author denigrating another one's work is a very poor showing. I'd suggest looking into your own pantry first, you aren't exactly Dostoevsky. Btw I hate JK Rowling's pandering ass, and didn't read the books, but I can respect it's wide influence and importance to an entire generation.

[@From-North-Jersey]

Color is not the American spelling, it's the correct spelling mauler. The language officially became ours when WW2 ended, since without American involvement in WW2 all the former english speakers decendants would be speaking german.

[@libertyprime6932]

Lol, imagine thinking America defeated the Nazis when the Soviets did 90% of tge heavy lifting. American spelling is the written form of the hillbilly accent

[@From-North-Jersey]

@@libertyprime6932 Remove the American fighting man, and the American lend lease program(Where the Americans gave England equipment England couldn't pay for or make themselves so they could actually mount a defense with machines more complex than mahogany airplanes and sten guns) and the Germans would have run the eurotrash pool table like Minnesota Fats. I love the modern pro-soviet take on WW2 now that the war has been over for 70 years. Stalin kept the real Russian army with equipment and training out of the battle of Stalingrad except as artillery support from the east side of the city. Conscripts with zero military training from the Ural mountains and Siberia were moved to Stalingrad by train cars and marched into interlocking fields of German machine gun fire to run Gerry out of ammo. Once the Germans were out of gasoline, diesel, water, food, firewood, ammo, grenades, and crystal meth they began to walk back to Berlin. At this point the Russian army got involved and pursued Gerry all the way home. Using German bullets to kill Russians from Siberia and the Ural mountain range where the Tzars could never control the populaces is not brilliant strategy or "heavy lifting" it is the beginning of the soviet purge. Please try and remember that Stalin killed more Russians after WW2 than the Germans did during WW2. The number of dead estimated for Stalin's bloody war on the Russian people needs to be adjusted upwards because the conscripts used to run the Germans out of bullets are not included in "The Purge".

[@From-North-Jersey]

@@libertyprime6932 I always figured English English was full of superfluous letters to compensate for the extra sounds made by the horrendous state of dentistry in the UK before the martial plan modernized the continent to an almost American standard. I remember the old days where Austin Powers had "nice straight teeth" by British standards. Your welcome.

[@TheXygos]

I love Robert Eggers, I love viking lore, but I was SO very disappointed in The Northman. Awful, flat performances, unengaging & rushed story, & looks like a tv movie. It's probably the biggest film letdown of 2022.

[@dionath]

Super chat streams are so cringe please don't patronize yourselves and us with this content

[@libertyprime6932]

They don't slap the ballsack out of your mouth when you're enjoying yourself, you don't need to try take away other people's fun.

[@scottf5791]

And yet here you are

[@TheB00tyWarrior]

How do you mean?