Open Bar #51 - Indy 5 DISASTER, Little Mermaid Backlash, The Flash Review

Its another busy week at The Bar as Razorfist, Chris Gore, Echo Chamberlain, MauLer and myself cover the recent embarassment for Lucasfilm as professional critics slam Indiana Jones 5, the backlash and accusations swirling around The Little Mermaid "reimagining", and an advance review of The Flash courtesy of Chris Gore.
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[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Since the Flash fights Zod, this is technically an Alien vs Predator film.

[@NoBody-dp8bd]

Oof

[@legendinmysparetime985]

Fuckin’ lol! 😂

[@louiemeister9646]

💀

[@Dr.Z73]

😂

[@pl33]

zing!

[@tucfoto]

This quotes describes it. We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write fuck on their airplanes because it's obscene!

[@chasehedges6775]

Human nature and hypocrisy in a nutshell

[@PolarizedMechs]

During the Vietnam War, the US Air Force tried to force a F-4 squadron to take the sharkmouths off their airplanes. They said it was "too warlike." Dropping bombs on people is fine, but not putting a big mouth on the nose! That's beyond the pale!

[@DrMundo92]

"That's America's ass" imagine if that was said to a woman.

[@chasehedges6775]

America Chavez In Multiverse of Madness: appears

[@chuchu5946]

@@chasehedges6775 Then drag queen Kang variant beat the crap out of her.

[@inventgineer]

I don't know what you're even talking about. Women don't have asses.......how lewd of you to even suggest that, you pervert and/or bigot!😋

[@jonathanbrown7250]

To whoever said "this isn't the sendoff Harrison Ford deserves" Harrison Ford hasn't given a s*** for decades about anything but getting a paycheck. This is exactly the sendoff he deserves.

[@inventgineer]

Yeah I kinda have to agree with you there, lol. NOW, MIND YOU, it's another matter, I think it can be fairly said, about giving the CHARACTER the send-off THEY deserve -because ultimately it's the character Indiana Jones that people fell in love with, not Harrison Ford the person. So I can appreciate people wanting to not be mistreated in their investment in the character..................but yea, Ford don't giveAFFFFFF at all anymore, about any of it, and anyone who thinks he does is just kidding themselves lol -he's been VERY explicit about it across many many interviews.

[@rustykilt]

yes, crash and burn...goodbye Harrison.

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

After what he did after TFA, about how glad he was that Han died, of his comments on how he hated Han for being his main role, aside from Indiana, I lost a lot of respect I had for him. At this point I expected him to do this.

[@PolarizedMechs]

@@RhysCallinan-cg5ww Admittedly, he's hated Han since 1980. He wanted Han to die in ESB. Lucas convinced him to come back because the fans wanted it, and he promised Ford Han would basically get laid.

[@evelynn4273]

It's a proper sendoff for a paycheck. Yes, I agree.

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

It's hilarious to think that Phoebe Waller-Bridge punching someone out was a believable story decision made by a writer. 🙃

[@incurableromantic4006]

It's one of those "strong female character"(TM) moments - and those don't need to make any sense.

[@josepicasso602]

Especially knocking out a elderly person.

[@berserkerpride]

"And then she punches out an action hero with her little girly fists. Wow, I am such a good writer!"

[@chasehedges6775]

@@berserkerpride😂😂😂

[@ItsMeMonkeyDLuffy]

She’s break her hand lmao

[@TheWarmachine375]

Disney: "STOP MOCKING ME! WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?!" Critical Drinker and The Boys: "Because it's easy and it does a lot of damage."

[@chasehedges6775]

Me to Modern Disney: “YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW AND GET WHAT YOU DESERVE!”

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Disney: Eeeemotional Daaaamage.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Disney - "WHY ARE YOU MOCKING US?" Us - "You're ridiculing and defiling all our childhood heroes: and *we're* mocking *you* ?"

[@canaldecasta]

I have to rewarch Happy Souls again

[@jeremiahandrzejewski3175]

Always good to see a Happy Souls reference

[@chrissymc886]

Ariel was already obsessed with being on the surface and the human world. Eric was just the final piece of the puzzle that helped her take that final step.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍👍

[@chasehedges6775]

The 1989 animated original was so good

[@miyoko_17]

Actually it was her father (& his rage fit, destroying her grotto/cherished items) & unbeknownst to both of them, that Ursula was plotting to undermine Triton, that was the tipping point/perfect storm. Ariel was content to just fantasize about Eric & talk about meeting him in-person as a Mermaid (again fantasizing that he'd be accepting of her other-ness). But once Triton rages out & doesn't apologize -- tho there's a brief moment afterwards where he sees a sobbing Ariel that he almost makes to console her, but pride stops him -- He allows Ursula's eels to come in & get into Ariel's head, which leads her to Ursula/the deal. Eric was definitely part of the motivation. It's a fairytale, it's "love at first sight". But it's alot more the push/pull of Triton & Ursula that kinda force Ariel to make decisions.

[@WillFredward7167]

YES. It is deeply telling that modern Disney felt the need to totally rework Ariel’s motives. She was obsessed with all things related to the human world. Eric was the one that made her own interest personal and elevated it. Disney changing that proves how terrified they are of the entire concept. … I’m sad and tired now.

[@vashtxsx]

I think of the aggressive scene in last crusade in Venice. Where indy kisses the girl. She says how dare you. Then kisses him. It absolutely works but would be a forbidden scene for modern audiences

[@paleface171]

"Ah, Venice."

[@e.c.winner7252]

((((M O D E R N A U D I E N C E S))))

[@s.plissken_91]

Godzilla deserves better recognition for always staying entertaining

[@inventgineer]

I mean......that might just be literally the most foolproof IP: how on earth do you fuck up the incredibly complex concept of "big lizard, make big roar" lmfao. ALTHOUGH........lets give that one to Disney, put it to the test, hehe.

[@tier45acp]

I have never in my adult Trek life would have thought about the energy requirements to potentially transport fat people... you guys rock!

[@TheWarmachine375]

The Little Mermaid Remake predictably Floundered.

[@chasehedges6775]

Like all the Disney remake

[@berliner0]

Nahh it’ll be fine 😂😂

[@bobdole4093]

​@@berliner0 fine like a good Bud Light campaign

[@weswolever7477]

What you did there.... I saw it 👀

[@jeggsonvohees2201]

It's probably going to hit a billion.

[@mikemoore4033]

An hour of two Ezra Millers? Hard pass.

[@andrewbartonwood5782]

What about 20 minutes of 5 ezras?

[@Peeps7468]

It's really cringy for Chris Gore to gush about how awesome it is that Luke's accidental incest-desires are the driving force for him becoming the hero in Star Wars. :(

[@Promance2300]

Chris is made of cringe.

[@princepsbellum3413]

Mauler saying "Where did Disney touch you?" cracked me up big time 🙂

[@Random-ft3jc]

Modern movie themes are overtly anti-human in nature, and it happens so often, it's pretty ridiculous to call it "accidental." To partially disagree with Chris Gore, Disney isn't trying to 'desexualize' movies. They're trying to de-hetero-sexualize their movies. They can superimpose overt and unnecessarily gey themes and relationships in their films all they want, but they hate the themes of natural relationships. (But this comment is true, so YT won't let you see it for 3 years.)

[@jayboy2kay7]

Not removed yet, doing well sir!!

[@ryckarduhryckarduh180]

I dont think they're really trying to de-hetero-sexualize stuff, to me its just simple math, you can portray a white couple, but maybe some idiots will call you out for not promoting other etnicities, but you can promote interracial couples, but thats old news what is this? The 90s? So why not promote gay and tran couples? You cant criticize me for doing it because that would make you a bigot and every activist will defend our product, if my job is to promote my content it would be unprofessional of me not to try to capitalize on that. Thats how far they can think

[@johnwiks2597]

​@@ryckarduhryckarduh180Sure but the modern q33r relationships don't sell like hetero norm relationships. They can thrive by ignoring the gey karens, it's plainly agenda driven.

[@erichtomanek4739]

Pheobe Waller Bridge's face has the Uncanny Valley vibe to it.

[@papalaz4444244]

asperger's, yes

[@fozz5722]

She's a man, baby!

[@kgjung2310]

Disney for the Modern Audience: Spend more money; Make movie worse. Is it any wonder they are running out of money and are neck deep in unproductive debt? Also, Indy had his proper ending. He had it at the end of Last Crusade. They literally rode into the sunset.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍. Agree with all of this

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

That was the perfect ending for the trilogy,they never should've made a fourth Indiana Jones film. 👍

[@ouchiegiverjr]

Hell even the 4th one ended it better then this new one, how is it a fuck up is still better then a Disney fuck up??

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

I have never understood the appeal of Phoebe Waller-Bridge.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same. She was terrible in Solo A Star Wars story

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

No human does.

[@ian-flanagan]

I remember enjoying Fleabag years back. But that’s very niche. Actually,,, the same thing happened with James Corden and Ricky Gervais

[@chasehedges6775]

@@ian-flanagan James Corden was only good in that Into The Woods movie from 2014 and actually gave a decent performance. Keyword: DECENT.

[@ian-flanagan]

@@chasehedges6775 He also got famous from a small British comedy called Gavin & Stacy which somehow blew up and he got catapulted to Hollywood, like Waller-Bridge (Fleabag) and Gervais (The Office)

[@micklaws5520]

Disney actually managed to make another dumpster fire of burning cat crap and pushed it down the road smoking,burning and stinking to high heaven.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍👍

[@Nicole-em9yo]

She also saved Eric from drowning, attacked Ursula after she stole Tritons powers, and stopped her from blasting Prince Eric with the triton. But according to feminists “she needed a man to save her.”😂😂

[@rikbitter]

I'm not sure which movie you're referring to, but you're correct regardless.

[@micklaws5520]

@@rikbitter The Multicultural death to the patriarchy Little Mermaid,

[@matane2465]

In the year 1969, Indiana Jones should actually only be 70 years old since he was born in 1899. I guess he aged really poorly.

[@RM_VFX]

Chris, here's your T-shirt: If it's over 2 hours, it better be The Two Towers

[@apocryphicdeath]

​@@bazatronmurphy8596 lol you're just mad no one will remember how you died while some others will always be remembered. Never forget!

[@SilverShadow02]

I thought you were talking about Lord of the Rings lmao

[@TheRealJabbergeist]

Responsible drinking game: Take a shot when Chris Gore actually finishes the same sentence he started during the Flash discussion. You'll be fine to drive home after.

[@EmilyDeJan]

😂😊

[@coltonwhite2518]

Real talk, I was almost convinced the rest of the stream was just going to be him speaking in run on sentences.

[@Promance2300]

Yeah, he's pure cringe.

[@yesnonotexactly25]

I'm always disappointed whenever I see he's on a stream like Open Bar or FNT or Real BBC because I feel like he treats every stream like he's the only guest - like it's an interview and he needs a (very very long) say on every opinion

[@ScooterDoge]

As a short, skinny but pot-bellied and balding 40 year old, I don’t feel represented in gaming. I want more protagonists like me. Where you at Dove?

[@joshjones9749]

"This isnt how Harrison Ford deserved to go out." We talking about Indy or Star wars? 🤣

[@k3nny111]

When Arielle sang the new version of her song, "We wuz kangz under da sea", I cried in the cinema.

[@inventgineer]

😂😂😂 AAAAH man, unashamed Wop here, who is secure enough to laugh at his own ethnicity's tropes and flaws, and godDAMN is it good to hear some funny race-related jokes lol -too rare nowadays, what with the massive stick lodged up everyone's ass 🥲.

[@SerDennistheRepressed]

The movie opens with a quote from Hans Christian Anderson that really drove home just how good the source material is... and how hard Disney fucked it up

[@Reidbynature]

Indiana Jones and The Infernal Machine set Indy against communists, but that was in a game a couple of decades back.

[@eggscellentTH]

Im not certain, but I'm beginning to suspect that Chris Gore gets to keep his "Hollywood" card and still get to come on these shows and badmouth woke stuff because he shills for so many movies. A lot of people are saying Flash is not good and its projected to lose money, but Gore is out on every show talking it up trying to get people in this audience to go out and see it. How about let the company that refused to fire Miller have the flop they deserve?

[@Promance2300]

He definitely is a not-so-secret shill.

[@maisuchan6209]

Chris Gore liked both lightyear and she hulk when they came out. He even recommended people go see lightyear I really can't trust anything he says anymore

[@theequalizer9154]

😂😂😂😂!!!!

[@maisuchan6209]

@@theequalizer9154 a wild simp has appeared

[@theequalizer9154]

@@maisuchan6209 I did not see Lightyear, but Chris Gore liked She-Hulk???🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!

[@maisuchan6209]

@@theequalizer9154 yeah, it was pretty weird😅 to be fair he changed his mind by the end of it 😂 but I still can't believe he recommended lightyear. It was such a dismal depressing movie Sorry about the simp thing, my bad😅 I misunderstood your comment

[@theequalizer9154]

@@maisuchan6209 I thought you were calling you know who a simp. That was for me?🤣🤣🤣 Okay, apology accepted👍

[@afreestate8466]

If the flash succeeds, Hollywood's takeaway is going to be that the people love Ezra Miller

[@revermen3580]

Man I really love listening to Chris gore talk for an hour... said who?

[@Promance2300]

Exactly. I have no idea why he always pops up. His takes are awful and he's such a try hard.

[@badnewsjp]

A Fish called Wakanda

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Lmao

[@user-nv2wt4hi8t]

Chris, as well, people all over now say 'MODERN AUDIENCES' thanks to Drinker.

[@shaecouture7480]

"Because this story has to reflect the world we live in today."

[@dudeduderson4077]

Nah. Modern audiences has always been a buzzword coined by corporate media journalists/writer's since gamergate.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Indiana Jones show ended at The Last Crusader. Change my mind.

[@doberski6855]

Ford and Connery riding off into the sun! Never going to top that as a way to end the film series, really wish they had left it at that!

[@incurableromantic4006]

And it was such a perfect ending for the character and his arc - he'd finally won the respect of his father, been reconciled with him, rescued his friends, achieved the ultimate success of his profession, and was quite literally walking in the light of god. He got to ride of into the sunset with everything that gave his life meaning now fulfilled. The only redeeming grace about Crystal Skull was it tied up the life-long on-off romance with Marion. And the first thing they do in number 5, is undo that.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍👍👍

[@chasehedges6775]

It definitely is where it ended for me

[@Eazy-ERyder]

Not for EVERYBODY..

[@lance134679]

I think this is about the right size panel with Drinker, Mauler and 2-3 guests. Good discussions, too. I don't usually wish for films to be bad, but I was hoping that The Flash would be bad because I don't think Ezra Miller deserves to be in one of the biggest films of the year and should probably be behind bars.

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

I've made that a rule. If someone is convicted of crimes to overwhelming evidence I ain't seeing it. Even if it's good, I refuse to support criminals. Will I ever watch a Spacey film? Or a Cosby film? No. Especially criminals that are sheltered by corpos because of whatever reason they have. Fuck Warner. They could've gotten a new actor to play Flash. And they didn't.

[@Num1n0us]

J'Kar's arc in Babylon 5 is an excellent example of character writing. Babylon 5 is just excellent across the board as an example of great writing

[@andethidialbubabibub3261]

"that was the cool thing about Luke, he lost a hand" That's not the thing that defined him as a character but alright 😅

[@powwowken2760]

Anytime a question of "How would you XXX a certain animal" just know that the Japanese have already answered it in excruciating detail... Seriously, those poor bastards are a perfect example of why extreme censorship not only doesn't work but actually has the exact opposite effect that it's supposed to.

[@matthewlaffey8360]

Speaking of overcompensating for sexual desirability in modern media, I recently watched Lost and was struck by how often there were titillating or selacious camera angles and postures. Kate in the sea washing her clothes in the first episode is a prime example, but just other more casual things like camera views down tops as Claire bends over her crib, people's clothes getting wet, Shannon sunbathing. My brain noticed the difference immediately, thinking in contemporary media all of those camera angles would be strictly and awkwardly neck up. Not saying it was great when women are overtly sexualised, used like pieces of meat to keep hungry men watching, just that it's jarring when any incidental desirability is pruned and absent.

[@princeofruins3287]

Watching new movies I feel like my break ups were more romantic.

[@robhaldane3347]

Chris Gore’s take on The Flash did not age well.

[@naitcst]

I knew the Indy 5 film is going to be awful.

[@chasehedges6775]

With Disneys recent track record, are you really surprised?

[@RM_VFX]

The way Ford has aged just since ROS...it's like he chose the wrong grail. 😯😨😱💀💨

[@nickvoelker7180]

For nonlinear story telling, the movie The Endless executes the concept extraordinarily well. It has the standard fare of flashbacks and tracing back to see something from a different perspective, but it also has a supernatural element that affects time and that adds a unique layer. Great movie regardless, 10/10.

[@TimHayes]

Thanks for having Chris Gore and RazorFist on! They're always fun!

[@chasehedges6775]

They’re amazing

[@TimHayes]

@@chasehedges6775 Yes and RazorFist seemed very interested in hearing about big tits on women! ;)

[@rosschurchouse2794]

1:00:19 you nailed the biggest issue with live action - kids films need to be 90 to 100 minutes but the hard ceiling needs to be 120. Kids were bored braiding each others hair and wandering around the cinema this passing out of films needs to stop

[@orboakin8074]

21:42 Wrong, Drinker. Modern movies, especially disney ones, do feature "love and romance" just of the non-heterosexual variety.

[@fozz5722]

Amazing as this sounds, It's not about the money. We have a agenda so strong that we have the money 1%'ers willing to fund films so bad that they should have been canceled as soon as mentioned. It's the only explanation for what we've seen. I don't know of any women who support this or anyone for that matter who like these films. Also realize the gap between rich and poor has never been greater than now. Frankly if I was on the other side of the isle I would be terrified of male masculinity. "Let's make a Cleopatra documentary and race swap history." Who was the grown up in that pitch meeting? As if agenda before even reason!

[@botep5529]

This 100 percent. It doesn't matter if it fails over and over. There are very rich and bad people who will bank roll it to push "the message"

[@Kernwadi]

“I'd rather be handicapped than a communist.” -Bilbo Baggins

[@Kernwadi]

Amen.

[@HyoureiKyouran]

Don't bring Chris Gore back.

[@Eulogy10]

He still has time to play an 80 year old Jack Ryan

[@chasehedges6775]

He should just retire

[@matane2465]

They tried to tell us what they were going to do. "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."

[@gabrielhedin1697]

Razorfist coming in and dropping the hammer :D

[@MrJobsworth1979]

Thank you Disney . Without you, we wouldn't have such entertaining shows like this

[@ScooterDoge]

I’ve had more hours of entertainment from drinker mauler and Disparu than all Disney movies I’ve seen combined.

[@estrabetenovomultilaser1936]

Echo Chamberlain is amazing, I hope I'll see more of him here in the future ✌🏻

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

2:51 "Is it New Zealand or Australia?" "Same thing." As an Australian, I wish it was the same thing.

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

@@matalostodos I don't know about New Zealand, but as far as Australia goes, for those who've come across the seas we've boundless plains to share.

[@emperorsean1]

You know why companies don't hire fans Chris. Because they don't want fans with baggage to write the movies THEY WANT TO MAKE. You should know this.

[@allurbancentralinterviews]

Okay, Go Away Now! 🤘🏾

[@Th3bald3st]

How did it come to this every original movie we liked ruined for what? Now they’ve run out of things to ruin what happens now? Like seriously we can any of this go? How much money is too much and what comes after it all comes crashing down?

[@crazyralph6386]

This was all laid out by ex KGB propaganda minister Yuri Bezmemov back in the 80’s. Its a Communist tactic in demoralizing and divide the West, which makes it easier to defeat your enemy.

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

There's so much more to ruin. So many untouched gems that these corpos can ruin. Lady and the Tramp, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas. It's only a matter of time sadly.

[@ronsmith8424]

They resist constructive criticism because they would have to admit that they are WRONG

[@cosslogan1043]

Dove: "It was beautiful. We were selling rich women their own fat asses back to them."

[@JustAboutTime]

Movies are getting longer … and Leon is getting Laaaaaaaarrrger!

[@nathanknief3144]

In Kenobi, if anybody showed up in Luke's first 10 years, Luke would have been fucked. What was Obi Wan gonna do? Reconnect with the Force and go dig up his Light Saber before someone takes Luke out? By the end of that series Kenobi was in the exact same place as he was at the end of Revenge of the Sith. Fucking shit show.

[@delcarsdungeon]

Sounds like I might watch Flash with my friend Jack Sparrow and skip the first hour.

[@shaecouture7480]

Im going to the theater in India with Rags if you want to join;)

[@mattwaldren]

Profit minded corporate capitalists + 'Yes men' film directors + professional film crews, artists and actors desperate for work = the film industry.

[@teezzyy141]

The Critical Drinker > Nerdrotic

[@eFRapidfire]

On the boob armour thing, to be fair, boob armour is dumb. A single curved plate would be far more effective as armor

[@TheUnknowncaller12]

Wouldn’t it be great if George Lucas pulled a 200 IQ move and bought Lucas film back at 1/4 the money he sold it for. Then de-canonize the sequel trilogy as his first act after purchase! I think that would be the only way that any of the Star Wars fans would ever be coming back! Seriously they’re gonna have to wait till we all die out to bring any Lucas properly back onto the big screen, and expect a profit!

[@matane2465]

The Justice League of 89 Batman should have been Dean Cain Superman, John Wesley Shipp Barry Allen/Flash, Dick Durock Swamp Thing.

[@derrickbonsell]

I sure hope The Flash is an utter disaster.

[@IRMentat]

Harrison is on no fair well tour. He’s been revisiting his previous franchises to bury them for good for over a decade now. The paycheque seems to be the only thing he cares about for whatever reason. I could respect the “I’m in this for the money” when the movies weee good but at a certain point you need to put your foot down for the people who are ultimately paying your employers

[@EvaOwnsAll]

Holy shit, having a plan?! 1:52:02 No way, just wing it! It's going so very well for Disney!

[@skeletonguts313]

I think i can explain the armour thing pretty simply. At least from the male pov. Male gamers want to feel badass and strong, they also tend to like skimpily dressed, well formed females in visual media. The particular visual media we are talking about is heavily male in the stats. Simple.

[@theequalizer9154]

STRONG EMPOWERED WAHMEN! Who knocked out a Senior Citizen. YOU GO GIRL!😂😂😂

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

1:28:19 Nice guns, Drinker.

[@rijoenpial]

To me, the stakes in the MCU were over the moment you have Stark getting IMPALED THROUGH THE CHEST by Thanos and then Stark uses his 'magical gel' to fix it like no biggie! There was also LOKI dying like FOUR TIMES and miraculously coming back with one lame excuse after another! And my fave, the laziest deus ex machina there is, TIME TRAVEL, to CHEAT their way into an ARTIFICIAL win! No, MCU, Thanos STILL won in the ORIGINAL timeline! Ya just created an ALTERNATE one where he didn't! Talk about 30 movies to build up THAT cop-out! So, no, 'bar boozehounds', the stakes had been far gone in the MCU before Phase 4 and 5 came along! Most people were just not paying close attention then!

[@OceanbornAngel]

Seriously Chris...high heels are murder on the feet though. I'm not apologizing for not wanting hammer toes and Plantar Fasciitis for a superficial reason.

[@OceanbornAngel]

P.S. Gotta say, you guys yammer on about stuff you have no knowledge of. Stop telling women what to do unless you're able to walk a mile in high heels yourselves.

[@inventgineer]

Perhaps I'm somehow off-base here, as I happily acknowledge I can no longer recall the specific comment they made to which you ladies are referring, but.....I dunno, kinda seems like you're acting like someone is putting a gun to the head of young women and demanding they wear high heels 😅. Again, maybe their comment was a bit crude or misunderstanding somehow, but I dunno, I don't really see the problem tbh. No pain, no gain *shrug*. Guys go through plenty of physical pain working out a bunch when they want to be physically attractive, or through taking on dangerous jobs that women won't take, etc -to make themselves more appealing to the opposite sex. I have NO doubt that it causes a lot of pain, and probably isn't the sort of thing that should be done constantly lest unacceptable long-term injury occur.........but I can also say, as a straight man, that heels do a PHENOMENAL job of drawing a man's gaze to how in shape a woman's legs and perhaps butt are, and that's not going to change, it's just a function of how we're wired (to look for fit healthy bodies in our mates) and a function of how well high heels do their job of accentuating those features. It's always gonna be a draw, and there's always gonna be that woman or women that are competitively invested enough in finding the best possible partner that they're willing to put themselves through that pain. At which point, it is, again, not men somehow coercing y'all into wearing heels, it's women simply deciding to do so because it provides competitive advantage *shrug*. Look, I'd honestly love to apologize for the fact that I, as a man, find heels generally pretty attractive -really I would, because I wish no pain on any young woman......but to what reasonable end? It would be apologizing for a basic instinct I had no choice in, nor which is singular to only my gender. Women are programmed to find certain things attractive in men, fair or not, and vice versa. Like I said, no one is putting a gun to any woman's head on the matter, men are just attracted to healthy potential mates (how crazy lol), and that device happens to be very successful at putting a woman's figure/health on display. Perhaps the comment that prompted this response WAS somehow tasteless, I dunno, but......based on your response, it kinda feels like you maybe have a bit of a chip on your shoulder lol. I remember when the road went both ways: women expected tons from us, and we got to expect a little back in return, now here we are in the "modern" more bigoted age where women can still expect all the same things from men, but the moment we have any expectations based on what is good for us, the moment we're evil and all plotting against women lol. Just like with make-up: as if men foisted that on women, rather than women using it to basically be lazy and "cheat" at being more attractive than they actually are lol. I'm not saying we don't accidentally torture each other (the 2 genders) sometimes in the course of trying to preserve the survival of our own genes lol -that sucks and I really do hope we can minimize it, but I am saying that I think your response about heels is a little overblown. No one is forcing women to wear them, just like no one is forcing women to wear make up -each one has a functioning brain and limbs and can decide for herself how competitive she wishes to be or not be in finding the mate she wants * shrug * seems as simple as that, to me.

[@pontificusrex1501]

@@inventgineer certain women like to act that the things they do, like wear high heels, or makeup, or thongs. are being imposed on them. It's kind of tiresome.

[@brad3139]

Disney sure gambled by lifting the review embargo this early.

[@Dr.Z73]

Chris Gore is just delightful. Have missed that guy.

[@indepthliterature]

Great commentary from evryone. Drinker and the crew clearly put into perspective what is wrong with movies and culture nowdays. How can we enjoy or explore anything if we are made to feel offended by everything

[@ronsmith8424]

HBO MAX changing to MAX is like Coke becoming New Coke - marketing disasters of the modern world - Coca Cola has survived for over a hundreds on bran recognition ALONE ! I guess old ideas that work are bad ideas and new ideas that don’t work are good. We are living in BIZARRO WORLD

[@Darek_B52]

This story is just Flashpoint. There's an animated film that I recall being pretty good.

[@Lauren007E]

Flashpoint but without the interesting parts like the war between themsercia and Atlantis, or what happened to the Wayne's when Bruce died in the alley, or what happened to Clark when he didn't land in smallville, or even any reverse flash

[@WillFredward7167]

I can never see myself deliberately killing someone, but in Man of Steel, the scenario was quite simple: Snap the neck of this genocidal monster *now* or he will kill multiple innocent people. With such a stark choice, I didn’t blame Superman in that moment. If it’s controversial, the issue would be the director framing the situation that way.

[@subjectivelyoffensive]

Drinker do a review on the movie NEFARIOUS it's got the critics panties in a twist and the audience ratings are super high 33% and 96% it's 100,000 times better than the popes exorcist

[@simbadas1234]

hearing that guy simp for the flash movie so hard after hearing efaps thoughts on it, wew laddie, it sounds like he fell for all the bait they threw his way.

[@tschysas]

would have been nice to have a little bit less chris gore and a little bit more everyone else it felt like 60 or 70 %

[@soullesschicken4069]

i have to say you are wrong about game of thrones. it's full of rape, daenerys and drogo's love was built on rape lol, people didn't really complain about that or most other instances. the problem people had with sansa being raped and jaime being rapey with cersei is because neither of those were in the books and for some it seemed like it was unnecessarily tarnishing jaime's character after a long arc of redemption. and regarding sansa i think people didn't like how she had to be raped for the sake of character development. honestly i kinda agree that it's an examplel of tasteless and poor writing of dan and dave, two guys who aren't particularly smart. with most of her family dead and her being repeatedly mentally tortured, abused and threatened sansa has undoubtedly been through enough as it is to mature and wise up and leave the annoying girl she used to be behind and grow into a strong woman without a rape experience that isn't even canonical

[@mauricedalaimo2127]

DRINKER, Do you remember the early leaks about the ending at a test screening where indies' younger self dies in the past erasing his entire journey (from the 30's on) and no one believed the Redditor YET multiple reviews read that the THIRD ACT seems like it isn't coherent with the first 2 acts, they say its like it wasn't thought out as 1 story, I'm wondering if the early leak was true AND they reshot the last 1/3rd and that's why it DOESN'T FIT? Just a theory, Stay drinking Stay critical , Maurice

[@adamjenson9369]

Dear god Chris we get it, you like the Flash movie but it's probably mediocre. You don't need to repeat the same thing 10 times slightly differently.

[@jonbaxter2254]

How did we come to this? Disney made classics and was once the high-bar of quality. it all started going downhill with the end of hand-drawn animation. Those were indeed the days.

[@chasehedges6775]

Disney in the past before 2017 - AWESOME Disney in 2020s - TERRIBLE

[@chasehedges6775]

Idk, the mid 2000 and early 2010s were pretty goodnyears for Disney but once 2017 hit…. It was all downhill from there

[@kelp7060]

@@chasehedges6775 Nah, too lenient. TFA was all the gay.

[@LoneWolf-gz9mr]

Interesting take, that the controversial choice for kal was killing zod.. I agree, it was odd to see superman kill ANYBODY... Because if he was willing to kill zod for how he acted and the fact that zod wouldn't stop... Why hasn't he killed Luthor? Luthor has proven that while a human, he CAN create BIG problems for earth and he will NEVER stop trying, he CAN'T for some reason... The only way he's EVER going to NOT be a threat to the planet, is when he's dead.... So.... Um.. If he killed zod.. Then brainiac, Luthor and Darkseid? UM... They should be on the "chopping block". Superheros will ALWAYS be beyond trends... Superman is like Hercules... or Persius or Jason and the Argonauts.. Superheros will always TRANSCEND any trends or time... It's in the "lizard brain" of humans... But right now, with what Hollyweird is doing? The CURRENT writing WILL "burn out"... Simply because they are trying to "tack on" today's values... Which ties it ONLY to NOW... Which WILL "fade away" in the face of time. The "characters" are timeless... The current stories? Will NOT pass down from generation to generation...

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

Let's not forget the numerous civilians that surely would've died when Superman and Zod had their fight.

[@LoneWolf-gz9mr]

@@RhysCallinan-cg5ww Look at about any fight superman has EVER been in, that takes place in a city... There has always been massive amounts of "collateral damage" .. Try to put the death count of collateral damage that Lex Luthor does(when he fights sups), against Joker's intentional kills, and I really wonder who's body count is higher.

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

@@LoneWolf-gz9mr Majority of his fights don't destroy city blocks. They usually take place away from city centres and when they do Superman does keep body counts low. Snyders Superman intentionally chooses to destroy buildings in the hopes he does a scrape on the knee wound. Which doesn't.

[@nedstarkravingmad1799]

Drinker and Razorfist finally together , disproving my theory that they are in fact the same person.

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

To be fair it'd be difficult for Drinker to grow his hair out in seconds and then cut it off just to play two roles. I know he's Scottish but even they can't spontaneously regrow hair in seconds. Even though I wish you could, just so I can regrow my beard quickly whenever I shave.

[@nedstarkravingmad1799]

@@RhysCallinan-cg5ww wig.

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

@@nedstarkravingmad1799 Nah that hair is way too real. You get to a point where you can tell it ain't one.

[@LadyLibertyBella]

Silly didn’t you know Razor = Styx ..

[@nedstarkravingmad1799]

@@LadyLibertyBella he can be all three.

[@davidgannon5388]

2:07:00 - AC2 had a glitch in the AI missions whereby an enemy mech with no radar still knew exactly where you were on the map, whether it could see you or not. As a result, I exploited an aspect dealing with out-of-bounds. In one ruined city map, there was one very tall building right up against the OOB line. You could stand in the OOB zone (hearing the warning alarm not to go farther out the whole time), and peek out just to get missile lock. Once you had it, you could launch the vertical missiles and rain death on the enemy. Best of all, they couldn't line up a shot on you because to do so meant they entered the warning zone, and the AI would override everything to get back in-bounds. Hey. They cheat, I cheat!

[@magnum1165]

Who wants to place a bet, the Bruce Wayne getting out of the car will be Christian Bale?

[@dilloncrowe1018]

There's only 3 things that REAL men cry to... 1. War Movies 2. Whenever Your Horse Dies In RDR2 3. The End Of Rocky IV

[@matthewmcguire1953]

Old Yeller?

[@dilloncrowe1018]

@@matthewmcguire1953 boys maybe..

[@isaiahbridges7442]

Have you ever thought about getting this podcast onto spotify?

[@kevinmartin224]

If you are talking Ray Stevenson. Please find time to watch the insanely underrated gangster flick Kill The Irishman. The cast is amazing!

[@Lhight85]

He belongs in a museum!

[@chasehedges6775]

SO DO YOU!

[@Lhight85]

Thanks, it would be nice to be remembered for all of human history.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Lhight85👍

[@RhysCallinan-cg5ww]

Or a graveyard.

[@yetanotherspuart3993]

Who? Drinker has many years of reading films apart. Now lizzo, won't fit in a museum.

[@Batman_94]

Chris Gore sold Flash better than WB ever could

[@susanmctavish6639]

Even comicbookgirl19 calls them "Marvel Moms" because they can't be sexy anymore.