Orion HCCA Competition Subwoofers

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@SwatbotDubstep They're both great designs to consider. A ported enclosure might get you better overall bass output, while a sealed enclosure will help with overall bass response. Sealed enclosures will also require more power to perform similarly with a ported enclosure, so if you're low on power consider a ported enclosure.

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@txhen1 You would be safe giving them about 2000-2500 watts RMS. Just remember to adjust your gain accordingly if you overpower them by more then this.

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@318spen If you are going to go with the A18001DJ then I recommend going with the HCCA152 so you can wire the subwoofer to a final impedance of 1 ohm. The Audiobahn amplifier will not give you the complete 2500W RMS that it is stating because it is over-rated. You will be underpowering the subwoofer and not playing it to its full potential but you technically could use the A18001DJ to run 1 15" HCCA152 subwoofer.

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That depends on the installation and box construction and specifications. In general, 3 ten inch woofers will have more output and in the right enclosure will get plenty low.

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@ibutd this will be fine. these are competition grade subwoofers so they can take the heat!

[@SonicElectronix]

The RMS for a 10 is 1500W. If you want to run 2000W RMS you should be able too if the signal never clips and proper cooling is in place. However, run that power at your own risk. If our understanding is correct, the motor and coil are slightly beefier on the 12" which is how it has a higher power handling.

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We don't have the amps in stock currently, but we are hoping to get them in soon. I'm not sure on an ETA right now. Keep checking back and we will hopefully get them in soon.

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The subs aren't "required" to be installed vertical, it is just recommended. This is because of the weight and power of the sub can be too much for a standard MDF wood box and can possibly destroy the MDF. Of course this depends on the quality of the enclosure that you are putting it into. There are videos on KZbin of the HCCA woofers mounted horizontal, as you have probably seen. Typically they are stronger reinforced boxes. A strong custom enclosure is highly recommended!

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@DeltaWebz The voice coil of the HCCA is wrapped around the former. The former is attached to the spider ring which the spider is mounted on.

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@hondaATV250 You'll definitely want to upgrade the alternator as soon as you can. Amplifiers that require around 2000W of RMS power or more are usually really demanding on your alternator. If you double that then you'll need to get a pretty beefy alternator when you upgrade. Adding another battery never hurts as it's the best way to build your electrical reserve on those demanding deep lows. You're on the right path, just make those upgrades and you'll be good to go!

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Yes they can be. Wear and tear might be slightly different over time but they shouldn't blow. If they sound weird, mount them upright and see if there is a difference.

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@skater0313 If you're going with two Orion HCCA 15" subwoofers you will want to consider using the Dual 4 Ohm model so you can wire them to a final impedance of 1 Ohm. In this case you can use the MTX TE4001D. Using one amplifier for two 15" HCCA's is pretty tough, as not many amplifiers are capable of 3800-4000 watts of RMS power. If you use two amplifiers use the 15.2 model and use two Hifonics Brutus BRZ2100.1D amps. Use 0 gauge wire for power, and use 10 gauge speaker wire.

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@skater0313 Due to the high amount of watts that two HCCA subs would require from your amplifiers and batteries, you would need a 0 Gauge amplifier kit. The PKD1 by Kicker is a 0 Gauge Dual Amplifier Kit that would be perfect for setting up two amplifiers. You will need to purchase RCA Interconnect Cables as well since the kit does not include them. With that amp kit you will be able to properly set up two amps with the correct gauge wire to ensure that your system is running safely.

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You would honestly be under powering any of the Orion HCCAs with those amps. They require 2000 watts RMS each. We would definitely recommend giving them at least that amount if not a little bit over. The Orion's are competition grade subs that are designed with SPL in-mind. Now, if you are going for SPL then the larger the sub, the higher the SPL. If you are interested in a little better sound quality than the 12" or 10" is a better choice.

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@moochy101 Well they're both great subwoofers for different styles of applications. If you're looking for a sub that can handle huge amounts of power, and therefore output a ton of bass then you'll want to go with the Orion HCCA. If you go with the Kicker L7 then you'll get less output, but you won't need as large of an amplifier to drive it. It will output some great bas too, but not as much as the Orion HCCA. It all depends on how loud you want to be.

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We just ordered a few of these the other day so expect to see them in stock in around 2 weeks.

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Depends what you want. Two subwoofers will give you more cone area and thus more output assuming it is in a custom made enclosure.

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@05Narco They'll both be pretty loud setups, but it depends on how much money you're interested in spending on an ampifier. The Orion HCCA 15" will require a much larger amplifier to power, making it a louder subwoofer. It just depends on how much money you're willing to spend for the extra bass.

[@SonicElectronix]

Depends on your objective and what Memphis woofers and if you have the upgraded electrical to handle the system. Two 12" subwoofers have the potential to get louder than one 15" woofer.

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If your sub is a Dual 2 ohm woofer, then yes the Brutus 2000 will work. However, with a woofer of this size, it is always better to give it a more powerful amplifier to prevent clipping and give it the power it needs during peak demands.

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They are pretty close as far as quality goes. If you're going for pure SPL, than the MTX's are designed specifically for that purpose.

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@skater0313 Actually, Since the HCCA 15" subs are capable of handling 2000W RMS each, you will want to get one individual amp for each sub. With one Hifonics Brutus BRZ2100.1D to each sub, you can output 2100W RMS at 1ohm and thus safely powering up those HCCA 15" subs. For this to work you will need to have two of the HCCA152 , this will allow you to wire each sub in Parallel giving you a final 1ohm impedance.

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@1974opto Unfortunately we didn't have this amplifier so we don't have the exact specifications on it. It looks as though you'll get around 1000 watts of RMS power at 1 Ohm with that amplifier, but I could be wrong. To run an HCCA and get some high impacting bass response you're going to want to push around 1700 watts of RMS power at least into it. I'd highly recommend 2000 watts of power with it though. You may want to go with another subwoofer that requires a little less power.

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@noezzi Yes it will be fine. Just make sure you have enough clearance to compensate for the excursion.

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@skater0313 The Massive Audio 4000W Amplifier we carry only can push 2000W RMS @ 1 Ohm. Two 15" Orion HCCA's will require 2000W RMS for each subwoofer. I'd recommend one amp on each sub @ 1 ohm with that setup to be honest.

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@1980michigan Let's be honest here - the Power Acoustik amp is titled "5500D" as though it's a 5000W amp. Not only is this over-rated it's also based on it's peak performance which is entirely fictional, Power Acoustik amplifiers are not CEA compliant. This means they can put whatever they want for specifications on the box, and they would SIGNIFICANTLY underpower two Orion HCCA's. I would recommend the MTX amp as it's rated properly, and will push MORE power than what's stated on the box.

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All the 12" will weight the same (around 76 lbs!). The minor differences in weight are due to scale calibration.

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@xHockeyPlaya99 the sensitivity on the w7 is a little higher so we would have to say the w7 will be a little bit louder.

[@billgoldberg5735]

I'm going to order the 15 5000 rms 2 ohm one.. with the 5000.1d orion amp... I'm about to be disturbing the peace.

[@SonicElectronix]

Currently we have the 12" Dual 4 ohm for $299. Click the link in the video description (to the right) to see what we have. The $299 is also for the older version. The '09 model is running about $649. Remember that prices change over time too.

[@iPACKgoldDOTS]

I'm glad Sonic has someone like Seth who is actually smart and knows what he's talking about.

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@TheGangstafid That MRP-M2000 is a great amp! It can output 2000 watts of RMS power at 2 Ohms. If you're looking to get two subwoofers though, the HCCA and the Solo X will both require a bit more power. You can run one HCCA124 off of that amplifier if you don't want to upgrade your amp for more power. If you do want to upgrade your power though, put two of those 12" Solo X's into a custom-made enclosure and buy some earplugs, because that setup will get some serious bass response.

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It depends on the size subwoofer you are looking at. These subwoofers require quite a bit of air space for optimal operation.

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@MrTiagomanuel77 This is possible. What you will have to do is hook up 1 voice coil to each amplifier. You just have to make sure that the gain settings are EXACTLY the same which can be done by daisy chaining the amplifiers through the preamp outputs. However, you will not be able to run at 1 ohm because the voice coils separatly will only achieve a 4 ohm load. You will need 2 amplifiers that are able to produce 1000W RMS @4 omhs not 1 ohm. Hope this helps!

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@KingBre99 The HCCA would be an excellent subwoofer to do what you are asking for. Paired with the Orion HCCA25001 would make your car be heard from many blocks away.

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@turb0tach1 Unfortunately at this time we only have the Dual 4 Ohm model stocked. We do have an incoming shipment scheduled on the HCCA12.2 Dual 2 Ohm model at the first week of December. Keep in mind these ETA's are rough estimates, but we should have more in by then!

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@AAaudio710 On most competition style subwoofers you can use 10 gauge speaker wire. Make sure it's a good true to gauge 10 gauge speaker wire since you're going to want to allow the subwoofer to get to it's fully capacity. In some competitions you see 8 gauge wire stuffed in the terminals, so I'm quite sure it can take 8 gauge as well but I can't guarantee that.

[@Ricky07070909]

a quick question.. this was a long time ago.. what changes were made compared with the modern subwolfers ??

[@SonicElectronix]

The 2 L7 woofers have the potential to be much louder because you have more than double the cone area. Make sure you get a custom built enclosure to the specs of the woofer for optimum performance.

[@kovabrasi2392]

Hell no no fucking way

[@SonicElectronix]

You need minimum of 2000W RMS for each subwoofer and they must be in a custom built enclosure. Your cutlass can only fit a max of two and the enclosure would have to take up the entire trunk space or more. You should be getting subwoofers based on the size you can fit it your vehicle with enclosure. You will need to run an upgraded alternator or two with a few batteries and lots of 0AWG wire.

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It will usually tell you somewhere on the subwoofer magnet or at the power terminals.

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You would be right, however most people will put a low powered amplifier on a large sub, then crank the gain to max trying to get the most power (so they think), which in turn will fry the amp. Happens often. So, while giving a sub little to no power won't do anything to it, turning your gain up will. It was a broad question.

[@mpeezy358]

Wow, its not every day that I get to see someone less prepared to explain something. You're gonna be tough to outshine.

[@SonicElectronix]

@friked They good if you are looking for extreme bass. The Orions are no joke and are considered competition woofers for a reason. They hit extremely hard and sound amazing. If you want more quality than you do bass look into the Rockford P3 or the JL Audio W3 or even W6. Those subwoofers will be better at SQ than the Orion subs. Its all about preference find out what you really want and then go with that.

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@RYDOGG2992 That will work fine. You can recone the subwoofer no matter the initial impedance (2 ohm or 4 ohm) and it will work fine with the newer model.

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@RYDOGG2992 Breaking in a new system is a careful time. You want to treat your new equipment delicately. During the "break-in period" for your system, you want to tune the amplifier to about half-way of where you want it to be, so very conservatively for about 24 hours of play time. The "audiophile" way to do this is to play a low-frequency test cd overnight at 3/4 volume. The more common way to break in a system is leaving your system tuned down for about a month, and then re-tuning.

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Your best bet would be a Hifonics Brutus (like the BRZ2400.1D or BRZ2100.1D). Thats probably going to give you the most/best power for the money. If you can afford more, try out the Kicker ZXS1500.1.

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@RYDOGG2992 That technique would work. You really don't want to exceed 75% with your gains or any other settings. If you have to turn your amp up to 3/4 or higher to get the sound you really want, then you usually have too small of an amplifier. On that ZX1500.1, I would tune for it break in by setting the gain to the nine o' clock position (Where the amplifier says "Gain") and I would turn the bass boost up to the first notch, at most halfway above this first notch.

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@fonsolewis1 Since the amps have the same output at 2 ohms and at 1 ohm, it's more efficient to have a final impedance of 2 ohms, so go with the 15.2's, so you can wire them in series parallel to get a final impedance of 2 ohms. This way your amplifier won't be working as hard to achieve similar power outputs. When you can, always go for the higher impedance as it's less stress on your audio equipment.

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@tram7128 That matchup has good potential of working. I'm not sure of the Planet Audio's exact RMS specification, or at what impedance you plan on driving them at though so I can't recommend the setup. Now, keep in mind that Planet Audio is slightly over-rated so if it's RMS power is 950 watts, then it's probably pushing more close to 600-750 watts of RMS power, which would make it slightly underpower your subwoofers.

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@acer1234acer Your amplifier will run at full potential all the time, so it will heat up much quicker and if it does not have good heatsinks it will shut down more frequently. Like I said before the amplifier will work and will power the subwoofer but it will under power the subwoofer and run pretty hot most of the times.

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Those beasts handle 2000 watts RMS. It's probably best to go with one amplifier for each subwoofer. A good (and not too expensive) option would be two of the Hifonics Brutus 2400.1D. You could wire each sub down to 1ohm and get about 2k watts RMS to each.

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@Rednation323 The Kicker ZX2500.1 would be a fantastic amplifier to power your HCCA154. The amplifier is rated for 2500 watts RMS which is more then enough to power up that sub. It won't be bad for the woofer because the wattage ratings and the impedance will match each other.

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@318spen I would say the RE Audio SXX12D4, Alpine SWX-1243D, Rockford Fosgate T2D412, Jl Audio 12W6v2-D4, or the Image Dynamics IDMAX12 V.3 D4. Any of these subwoofers would be great to run at a final impedance of 2 ohms or you can get the Dual 2 ohm version of the subs and run the to a final 1 ohm impedance. I would more recommned upgrading your amplifiers, the Type-R subwoofers are great and probably not getting enough power to run at full capacity.

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@turb0tach1 It's not recommended, just because the Power Acoustik BAMF amplifier is over-rated significantly and it's hard to say exactly how much power it's outputting. Using a standard formula to calculate power from that amplifier (12v x fuse size x 0.7 efficiency) , it looks like it can truly output a little under 2000 watts at 1 ohm, which should work okay with an HCCA. Personally, I'd say go with an amplifier with higher dampening factor to have more control over your bass response.

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The low pass filter is generally best at 80Hz or less for subwoofers.

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If you have upgraded electrical (wire, alternator, battery) and a Dual 2 ohm HCCA 15, then yes it can power it.

[@DanielRichards644]

I wanted to see him try to lift the 15, LOL.

[@tonythejabroni9639]

DanielRichards644 i have it, they are fucking heavy!

[@Damien-Lugnut]

(R.I.P Orion 😭😭) They had the demand but not the parts because of COVID they had to file for bankruptcy sucks dude. Made some amazing products to go out so cold.

[@nycliving9514]

if this is true then it make sense.. price went up on these..

[@Damien-Lugnut]

@@nycliving9514 they just got bought by a audio company they are selling the hcca line again

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@parkkillers We would consider 1 amp for each sub. Such as the Zx2500.1.

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@BlueToad2222 Thanks for the support.

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@acer1234acer If you run the amp at 1 ohm it will still under power one 12" HCCA but it will provide enough power to run the subwoofer safely. Just don't run more than 1 HCAA on that amp, that would be bad. Also make sure you have the Dual 2 Ohm version of the subwoofer so you can properly wire it down to 1 ohm final impedance.

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@skater0313 You can use a lot of different RCA's, but for some decent quality go with Tsunami, Stinger, Kicker, Rockford Fosgate, JL Audio, Streetwires, or Monster Cable. You can't wrong with any of those amp kits quality, so each of those brands will definitely be sufficient.

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@BolstridgeMusic There's a few things I would need to know before I could recommend a suitable amplifier. First, are subwoofers you're trying to power single or dual voice coil? Are you trying to power all 3, or just one or the other? Also, what is the impedance of each voice coil? If the Vibe Audio speakers are single 4 Ohm, or Dual 2 Ohm, then a great UK amplifier would be the MTX Audio RT501. If you'd like to shop with us, we have a comparable amp available, the Kicker ZX500.1.

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If you have upgraded electrical to handle the power demands of the T1500 it will work for two HCCA woofers, but if you want full power you definitely need to upgrade the amp. None of this will work well without an upgraded alternator.

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@WhoopWhoop419Juggalo Louder is an understatement. So, the answer to your question is yes.

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It's all about the enclosure. However, these are competition subs meant for loudness, they won't be that musical in general.

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Definitely go ahead and take a look at the ones we have available on our website.

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@navor10 The 12" Orion HCCA can handle 2000W RMS power handling. Quite a bit of power for one woofer to handle.

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The difference is the 15" will be able to hit lower bass notes but wont be as accurate or responsive as the 12". They are the same power rating.

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It is a 445 oz. 3 stacked magnet.

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@gio56ace A 12" Solo X by Kicker run off of a ZX2500.1 would be louder than a 12" Orion HCCA run off of a matching 2000W RMS amplifier. The reason's why, the Kicker woofer is definitely going to be louder, is because it has an additional 500W RMS power handling, and it's a Square woofer, vs a Round. Square covers more surface area, and also the Solo X has a better sensitivity rating. The 12" Solo X 12 will be a comparable sub to the 15" Orion HCCA for this reason.

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Any amplifier that outputs the combined wattage of the subs, in watts RMS, at the subwoofers final impedance when wired together.

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Honestly, in the end they're both going to sound pretty good.

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Orion recommends a ported enclosure of about 3.5 cubic feet.

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@jcordova93 Generally, most subs will take around 10 hours before they play to their maximum potential.

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The Rockford Fosgate T2500-1bdCP would be another great choice to run the Orion.

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These are competition woofers, it is always best to provide them the maximum amount of power you can give them.

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You need an amp that will produce 8,000 watts RMS at 1ohm....... OR... You can go with 4 different amplifiers, all of which would need to be able to produce 2,000 watts RMS each. The Lanzar OPTI4001D's are one option, as are the Hifonics Brutus BRZ2400.1D.

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@playboydaking225 You're not going to see a huge difference between the two subs. The main difference is their cosmetic appearance of their cone, and the new surround material used. They're both made to handle extremely high amounts of power so the different surround material won't make a huge difference, other than for durability.

[@kurupsuresh8463]

Hi, can this subwoofers used for home theatre system

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@xHockeyPlaya99 This will really depend on which amplifier you run with them.

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@XxMIXEDBOI25xX Hopefully you're not trying to power two of these subwoofers. The thing is, these woofers require a huge amount of power and if you'd like to match up a good quality product and get an efficient, powerful amp, you'll be paying a lot more than $200. Even if you're planning on running one, you're still asking for quite a bit of power at a very low price. For two HCCA's, I recommend the TE4001D by MTX Audio.

[@stevieeng]

man these subs are crazyyyy! ive only got one 15" and it rocks up the whole block im thinking of getting another 15" but yeah these subs are the best out there on the market

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@stevelovesgod We're considering to test popular SPL woofers as a video, but we haven't been able to confirm it yet. Your best bet for replacing that Kicker L7 would be to contact Kicker directly. If you purchased it from an authorized retailer like ourselves than you can get service within 1 year. If you didn't purchase it from an authorized retailer you can most likely pay for warranty service. Kicker stands behind their L7's and will usually be more than happy to get you a replacement.

[@stevieeng]

How long does it take for these subs to fully break in ?

[@SonicElectronix]

Your 5000.1D at 1 ohm only produces a little over 1000W RMS. While this amp can power two of these 12 woofers, it will only be able to give each woofer a little over 500W RMS. Also, you need to upgrade your alternator.

[@djhlsmusic]

True, it was a broad question, and you are correct. I've seen it many times where someone tries to do exactly what you said. The truly safest way to run an amp would to perfectly gain match. Set your gain to the exact voltage your headunit is putting out. Amp might be able to do more semi-safely, but at least you know nothing bad will happen to any of your equipment.

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@skater0313 Since you are going to be pushing over 4000 watts with two HCCA subs, we suggest you go with two KHC2400 Kinetik High Current Power Cells. You will also need to look into upgrading your vehicle's alternator, to make sure it can handle the stress of your system. The MA Audio HK 4000D is rated at 4000 watts @ 2Ohms. However please keep in mind that this amp is highly overrated and thus will mostly likely not give you the correct amount of power you would need for two HCCA subwoofers.

[@tom58c]

Yeah those are good to. I wasnt putting it order with others but yeah. are you meaning a cerwin vega stroker? I like that stroker pro.

[@7jezuz7]

I will buy me two of those 15"s one day... they look and must sound extremely great.

[@r0achk3vin]

NICE!... Thinking of getting a pair of 10's... Can i run 2000rms on 1 10"?... One more question... Does the 12" and 10" carry the same size motor and voice coil (4")?....

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@BackDoorPickleTic They both perform amazingly but for different applications. Two 10" HCCA subs will handle 3000W RMS, giving you a tremendous amount of bass. While two 10' W7 subs will handle1500W RMS, only half of what the HCCA sub can handle. W7s are clean subs, they will hit hard and more importantly will hit with a better response rate creating a much tighter bass. HCCA subs are more competition based, so sound quality is not important. Where as W7 subs are more focused on sound quality

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Any amplifier that outputs true rated RMS power that matches or slightly exceeds the RMS power of your subs.

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@lilmikeBaSsKiNg20 Actually...it might be too big. Orion recommends an extremely small enclosure for ported: Recommended Internal Box Volume for Ported: 3.5 cubic feet per chamber MTX Audio makes the TE4001D which will run two HCCA's perfectly @ 1 Ohm. So if you get two of the Dual 4 Ohm versions of the HCCA, get this amp for the perfect match.

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@twista93256 Thesten answered perfectly. It's all about matching up amplifiers and subwoofers. If you've chosen an amplifier that is 1 ohm stable, then you'll want to go with the 4 ohm model. If you have an amp that isn't 1 ohm stable, and pushes it's power at 2 ohms, then you'll want to go with the 2 ohm models. If you plan on using 2 amplifiers, this changes everything. Check out our subwoofer wiring diagram on our website, found in the knowledge base. We'll send you a message.

[@LordVitalEIB]

Would you be able to get a good sound if you put 2 12" hcca in an enclosed box in the trunk with a ported hole through the armrest? I had 2 12" kickers L7's with the same set up and it sounded perfect. And i have a lanzar 6000 watt monoblock amp to push them. The car I'm installing it in is an 2010 Audi A5

[@FreeonRumble]

ohh stevieeng i have a d5000 and i bought it new> That being said I have had some problems with it. sometimes it has a humm that changes frequency I have checked all grounds replaced rca's ran power thru the vehicle the correct way meaning rca one side power other side. I also hooked up a different amp to see if it was the head unit and i have narrowed the problem down to the amp. Orion will not help me and says its not the amp. And since i hooked it up not an "authorized dealer" im screwed

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@weematayna The HCCA's can take a bit of overpowering. The BRZ2400.1 is a CEA-2006 compliant amplifier so it will have a true power rating, and will effectively overpower the Orion HCCA 12. If you're using the Dual 2 Ohm version wired down to 1 Ohm, it should be a fine matchup. There's potential for blowing the sub due to this overpowering, but those HCCA's are pretty durable and should be able to handle the extra power. Be careful with your tuning adjustments though.

[@xtcrezy]

would the hcca 5000.1d push two of these 12.4 subs wired to 1 ohm to their full potential?

[@jonasklaustermeier1048]

Zane Laurence yes

[@dmoney52806]

the newer hcca amps do not put out rated power, be careful with this