Orks in the new Warhammer 40k Meta, How to play now!?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I believe there was an error in the document I was reading. So, as a correction, the weird boy has NOT gone down by 10 points, my apologies for that error.

[@ulysse6916]

2:04 Just ordered 2 Morkanauts thanks to your advice ! Thank you ! Will check the rest of the video later :)

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P

[@BouncingTribbles]

This was an awesome video. My brother has been convincing me to start playing again, he just sent it to me.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Sick! The WAAAGH waits for you my friend

[@TK_1252]

Really cool video. I like the Battlewagon down on 160. While mostly playing casual with friends, I took it anyway and it is a real durable unit. Happy it will make its way back in more serious lists. The Kil Rig though is really a pain. It is such a cool model and I love mine a lot. It was so much fun in 9th but now it is not worth taking, not even in casual since it doesn't do anything and isn't even fun. Haha thats coming from a guy who recently brought a Stompa to a game ;)

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

man i feel you there, and dont worry, i have a stompa showing up on a battle report in a week or two :P

[@TK_1252]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Stomp 'em Stomp 'em😂 I really hoped it will go down 100 points but I guess that's a unit GW just can't make good.

[@dyinchu4595]

Thanks for making this video man really helped, could you maybe look at the new drukhari buffs and how to play them? I think that they're going to be pretty popular now that they got some buffs

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Yeah! Ill have both them and WE out next week for sure

[@dyinchu4595]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 You're the best man :D

[@MichaelSeemann-p9t]

Hey guys.... Is it possible to put Ghaz, Makari + 2 to Meganobz in a BW? I think the rulez are not clear and need an FAQ. Thx

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

The rules are not clear. The options are they count as 18 models, 19 models, or 36. Any rational TO will rule it as 18. But you are correct, it is poorly written

[@bigkahuna1510]

Ive really been wanting to try out my kommandos again, especially with a buff from Makari jumping out of a wagon

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

i desperately need them to be taken in 5 mans haha

[@bigkahuna1510]

​@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 yeah I totally get that. I just want to relive my Blood Axes glory days with 3 max squads 😆

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

haha! My hope is for a Blood axe detachment. All models get and extra blip of cover and +1 to wound when fighting in terrain.@@bigkahuna1510

[@bigkahuna1510]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 oh man I would LOOOOVE that. I've always been a die hard Blood Axe, and I miss my army wide fall back and charge I know I gotta wait for codex's but both my Blood Axes and Alpha Legion don't feel like themselves anymore

[@rickrivers2021]

​@bigkahuna1510 I'm hoping we get something akin to all these teleporting detachments we've been seeing. Maybe something that gives a charge bonus coming out of reserves and ways to jump in and out of it. I want to be sneaking all over the battlefield!

[@JTRAP1000]

Your channel has to be my favourite for 40K. Now time to sign up and become a member

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

oh cheers buddy! You are a rock star

[@JTRAP1000]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Do you know how I can join the discord?

[@Light-vi9qs]

I dont get it why you put badrukk + flash gitz into a trukk.. I dont get the reroll to hits and not the heavy bonus. Can you explain why it makes sense? thank you!

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Because otherwise they will be far too slow to move anywhere,/ they will immediately die to enemy shooting. This game is about staging for next turn! Also remember, in 10th edition you can get out of a vehicle after it completes a "normal move" which means you can still disembark if you so choose.

[@Light-vi9qs]

thank you very much!@@Happykrumpingwargaming007

[@mikedelta5861]

I think 20 flashgitz in a battle wagon parked at mid with a mek healing it for the extra +1 to hit to the vehicle and heavy on the weapons should be a nasty firing deck 60 attacks hitting on 3+?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

they would be hitting on 4+, since the BS of the weapon is 5+. with a +1 modifier the best it can hit on is 4+. That is also a 600+ point unit that is ap 1 . It sounds fun.... but its likely real bad. Also the battlewagon cant have ard case if it wants to use its firing deck ability. So it will only be T10

[@jakeosiris3971]

im bringing two buggies,a morkanaut, and a kill rig for my next list. I've tried the kill rig at 200 it did ok but I like that points nerf. and despite the rig lacking an invuln giving them another big target (the mork) to shoot at hopefully gives it more time to live I lack flash gitz, stormboyz, and only have 10 nobz which is still a good amount.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

let us know how it goes!

[@BeginnerDude]

What about Custodes as a big winner of the balance dataslate? How do you think Orks deal with them now?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Same way as previously. Custodes have a slight edge against orks, but orks are still a much better army

[@brendanarmstrong7802]

I'm pretty sure at this point that the next codex will be Tau, unless GW decides not to drop the Ork Codex in a value box like they did for Dark Angels and Tau. I'm betting we'll see an announcement of a big box of Orks at Adepticon for a Late April/Early May releaase, with the codex dropping standalone towards the end of spring.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

could be, GW looooves to tease

[@rickrivers2021]

I doubt we'll get a big box either way. Somebody has to play the Admech role in this release season and get only a token model, and it sure isn't going to be Dark Angels or Tau

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I mean we did just have a big christmas box, so thats not really a big deal

[@mikelewis6076]

I can’t find the rule that says if Zodgrog is in a truck that truck gains the scout ability. Are you sure it does that?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

yes its core rules, look under scout

[@michaelcrawford1233]

Green squiggly little balls of love... best description ever.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P

[@jesseobedeihajames6353]

My game group and I are not sure about the new rule on CP generation. How many CP can an Orc player generate in his turn +1 in Command for each player +1 GRETCHIN +1 when play tactical and you discard a card so 3 in total?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

2 in total! If you generate a bonus from ANY source, you cannot generate another one

[@gazclarke3618]

I dont get why a warboss makes Nobz -1 to wound like he says at 9:25 Could someone explain that to me?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

It is the Nobz datasheet ability, they get -1 to be wounded when led by a warboss

[@gazclarke3618]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 oh cool I guess I’m blind 😅 Thanks bro

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I got you boo!

[@GT-vl4of]

Could you elaborate on the advantages of having a Warboss lead an unit of 5 Nobz instead of 10? Is it because it's difficult to move them in a way that all 10 models can attack?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

cheaper, you can also have 2 units of 5 nobs each led by a warboss, instead of one unit of 10, so you can send them in different direction

[@GT-vl4of]

​@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 For SM armies, I was often told it was expensive to have a character lead a unit of 5 if it can lead a unit of 10. Do Orks get less negatively affected by MSU leader units?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

its just different, different armies have different strengths, its generally worth it in orks, not so much in SM

[@2ClutchGamers]

The Kill Rig and Hunta Rig NEED an invulnerable save AND assault for the guns

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

and new abilities !

[@JeffBrown88]

so for the bunker baby list, why not run a painboss and 20 beast snagga boyz instead of painboy and boyz? it would simply require you drop the third squad of gretchin. it seems like there would be more synergy between that unit and the rest of the list, or am i missing some key stat differences?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

its a option :)

[@jakeosiris3971]

Is zodgrods scout move in a trukk useful at all?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

absolutely. you can scout 9 inches up, disembark and move with zod, advance another squad up to hop in the trukk, then move the trukk. It can get you massive turn one movement

[@josepromeronacher5705]

Hi there from Spain! In the first list you present, have you considered changing the painboy with Mad dok Grostnik? Is cheaper and adds another powerklaw in the unit ;)

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I have, but i like the mortals to precision out a character with on the PainBoy! Plus a d3 resurrecting boys could come in clutch at some point. There is nothing else i could use the points on anyway!

[@Musky4489]

If one did not want to run Badrukk/Flasgitz (I know I’m weird, but not a fan of them), what would you sub in?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

probably more nobs with a warboss there is no shooting sub

[@Musky4489]

Perfect! I have plenty of Nobz. I’m a 100% melee kind of guy for my orks

[@JimWork-tw8cq]

Should I go ahead and grab the Combat Patrol since GeeDubs seems to be nerfing them for new codex releases?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I suppose it depends on if you like the models in it my guy.

[@JimWork-tw8cq]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 straightforward answer, I appreciate it!

[@ricardoguzman2781]

I’m new to Orks. For List #1, you said that you could make the Boyz be T5 with the Painboy. Can you explain how?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

The boyz are already T5, the painboy gives them a 5+++ FNP! I can make them -1 to wound with a strategem :)

[@ricardoguzman2781]

Oh of course they are. Thanks!

[@travie123]

Just found your channel, gotta say, love the energy! I'm new to Ork myself! Recovering T'au player! Newb question: Ghazghkull Thraka. Love the model. Is it viable to run with the battlewagon pt decrease? Or should i hold off until Codex time to see if he gets a buff? Haha

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I desperately want ghaz to be good.... he's just too easy to play around, and does not do enough. Buuuut we have a codex coming soon!

[@travie123]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 for sure! Understandable and hopefully we get something for him! Thank you for the response! 😁

[@rickrivers2021]

Sean Nayden (super accomplished competitive player) has seen great success with a battlewagon and Ghaz, but he doesn't put ghaz in the battlewagon, rather he has Ghaz and a couple meganobz footslog behind out of line of sight and fills the wagon with 20 Boyz led by a Warboss and a Waaaughbanner. Then in the Waaaugh, he can spend a CP on Unbridled Carnage for the Boyz and they suddenly have sustained AND lethal on 5s. Believe it or not, statistically that makes the unit able to kill a knight. And Ghaz and the Meganobz can wreck stuff themselves of course. Really cool combo. Some tournaments have ruled that the Waaaughbanner allows this to be done an additional turn, though there is some controversy there. Either way, Ghaz's lethal aura makes him viable if you position stuff right and build your list around him

[@travie123]

@@rickrivers2021 that's really darn cool. A great strategy. Maybe I'll try something like that! Thanks! 😁

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Sean is a super human :P I find it super important to point out that he could win with an all grot army, but thats because he is that good, not the army. Also yeah RAW the waaagh banner does not give you lethal twice, that was a unique ruling for LVO specifically

[@kieranduchayla6657]

Greay video :) praying for a buggy buff in the codex so i can run my speedwaaagh without feeling like im throwing the game 😂

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

I am sure a speed waggh is a practical certainty!

[@Stevie28]

Interesting first list. But why Painboy with Kunning but brutal? Just take Mad Dok Grotsnik instead. 10 points cheaper. Only Differenz is the Utry syringe Mortal wounds on the Painboy. You think that's worth it?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

yes, simply because there is nothing else i could buy for the points saved. Not too mention a cheeky d3 model resurrection can be nice at times

[@Stevie28]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 yeah that's true. Forgot about the resurrection!

[@Thomcat-dk]

Weirdboy is not changed?

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

hmmm my document showed him as 10 pts cheaper, there might have been an error that was corrected, because you are right when i reloaded it there was no reduction on him

[@samueleorsi4133]

Time to bring back on table da Dread Mob ladz

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

i seriously hope so haha

[@Javin-h1g]

Took a shot in the Dark Bought a morkaught Didn't know they went down The boys is eatin

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

:P stomp mob?

[@Javin-h1g]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 No, funnily enough Beast snagga

[@zombiesue1054]

3 Kans, not so great. 18 Kans? Ain't nobody handling that.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

hahaha except for every army in the game! I wish though! Perhaps if my predictions are correct about a dread waaagh, that could be true though!

[@efinel]

Careful what you wish for with the data card changes... Look what they did to dark angels 😬

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Haha those are not the changes i am looking for

[@Addycomedy2420]

why not just run maddok grotsnik for the free fall back and charge freeing up 20pts

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

simply because there is nothing else i could buy for the points saved. Not too mention a cheeky d3 model resurrection can be nice at times and the urtey syringe has actually come in handy before

[@Addycomedy2420]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 that makes sense. I may play around with that list and pts

[@nubbymcnub2311]

Waaagh!

[@heckinmemes6430]

Yes but with 3 KBBs you can debuff THREE units! THREE! :( I just like the model.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

haha touché

[@samrushin2476]

Kahns

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

multiple vehicles in a unit are hard to be viable, simply because of movement shenanigans and how much BID they give

[@samrushin2476]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 that’s all fine and dandy. But they’re kans. Like a can of tuna or a can of beans. It’s a kan with a grot in it, that kills. Hence, killa kan. Not Kahn.

[@mookie861]

Killa kanz

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

KAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNN :P

[@mookie861]

@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 alright u got me lol

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

hahaha :P

[@Jjk82486]

WAAAAGH!

[@Baleandor]

It is beyond me why they didn't give us WAAAGH at the top of turn instead of top of BR. The buggies need new rules. Squigbuggy only functions with a Mek buff, so it would have been great at 80pts. Kanz need their AP3 D3 klaws back and they'd be perfect.

[@Happykrumpingwargaming007]

Yeah i pretty much agree, But all that stuff are essentially things that may already be fixed in our codex. I am confident we will have it in march anyway

[@2ClutchGamers]

I agree with this so much. I'm exhausted having to call it at top of my opponents turn going second. You basically miss out on a whole player turn worth of buffs.

[@jeenskappa]

Waaagh!