osu!mapping: flow + circles

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pishifat

pishifat

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explaining flow-related concepts while focusing on circles.
the map-version of this: osu.ppy.sh/s/513402
more videos about movement coming soon, since there's a lot left to talk about. also, i'm running low on video topics, so if there's anything you want to know about, tell me.
maps referenced:
Camellia - farewell to today by Alumetorz: osu.ppy.sh/b/813005
Tonight Alive - Little Lion Man by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/1046775
Meramipop - Sanae-san by EvilElvis: osu.ppy.sh/b/1049018
Streetlight Manifesto - Ungrateful by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/941020
Underoath - Coming Down Is Calming Down by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/1039439
Kitsune^2 - He Has No Mittens by Blue Dragon: osu.ppy.sh/b/71080
Madotsuki@ - Ikanaide by sheela: osu.ppy.sh/b/703905
GRANRODEO - Can Do (TV Size) by Monstrata: osu.ppy.sh/b/1051587
Apocalyptica - Wagner Reloaded by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/965234
TOMOSUKE x Jazzin'park - LANA - Kiroku no Kakera (sasakure.UK Framework Remix) - by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/993150
Hanatan - Attakain Dakara by Stjpa: osu.ppy.sh/b/994818
Pierce The Veil - Bulls in the Bronx by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/980908
MYTH & ROID - Paradisus-Paradoxum by handsome: osu.ppy.sh/b/1020931
40mP feat.yuikonnu - Ame to Asphalt by Skystar: osu.ppy.sh/b/425779
Yumi Arai - Hikouki Gumo (el poco maro DnB EDIT) by Monstrata: osu.ppy.sh/b/806017
Apocalyptica - Reign of Fear by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/803828
Arctic Monkeys - From the Ritz to the Rubble by BOUYAAA: osu.ppy.sh/b/904008
maps not-really-referenced:
Blackhole - Lagomorphic: osu.ppy.sh/s/74664
Treyarch Sound - Abracadavre: osu.ppy.sh/s/406273
Avizura - Turn The Tides
Mo's videos: • osu! Mapping Theory

Пікірлер: 96
@xChorse
@xChorse 7 жыл бұрын
I dream for the day that pishi will use one of my maps as examples of what not to do ʘ‿ʘ
@G6GamingSociety
@G6GamingSociety 7 жыл бұрын
xChorse close call :v
@ariankagrand4467
@ariankagrand4467 7 жыл бұрын
sameeeeeeee
@RAYMACHINE
@RAYMACHINE 4 сағат бұрын
Get in line pal
@Anthony-ej5nz
@Anthony-ej5nz 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mapping is all fun and games but trying to get it ranked, that's a different story
@Minegamezz
@Minegamezz 7 жыл бұрын
wow one of the first actually helpful mapping tutorials I saw. Good job!
@testyneko
@testyneko 6 жыл бұрын
2:32 - That is so relatable.. I always end up moving my mouse towards my laptop on certain maps.. Literally always.. no matter how I try to play. On some other maps that never happens though.. And yet, I had no idea the map could be the one to blame.. Gee, I always learn something new from these videos. Good reason to keep your channel in my subs. =w=
@joren122
@joren122 7 жыл бұрын
You keep impressing me on how well you are able to explain these mapping terms and ideologies. Thank you for making these video's.
@suscactus420
@suscactus420 7 жыл бұрын
You just got a new sub. Awesome videos dude
@MrJoezapyofrulers
@MrJoezapyofrulers 7 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to make an episode on gimmicks?
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
very possible
@faizyusuf2470
@faizyusuf2470 7 жыл бұрын
Joezapy VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY IMPOSSIBLE
@tacombustiona2663
@tacombustiona2663 7 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so satisfying omg. I don't even map but this video was so good and explains the concept of flow very well in maps
@VinceIsDatBitch
@VinceIsDatBitch 7 жыл бұрын
OMFG I've always been referring to wide angle flow as linear flow! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 7 жыл бұрын
Another way of changing angular momentum, particularly in relateively long circle jump patterns, can be found in Feint - Vagrant [Still Alive] The way they did it is by using a very sharp angle(not a complete 180 but almost) before switching the direction of angular momentum. It feels very impactful yet remains subtle, and emphasises the patterns. It goes to show how little details make a big difference too.
@themelancholyofgay3543
@themelancholyofgay3543 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pishiphat! After observing maps i got better and better at mapping
@mmelloe
@mmelloe 7 жыл бұрын
very concise and simple explanation on what plays comfortably, much better explanation than the others i've seen. yours is nice and practical while others spend large amounts of time dwelling on explanations that, while not technically incorrect, are very theoretical, misleading, and unnecessary. another great, well edited video
@oxey_
@oxey_ 6 жыл бұрын
This is actually pretty good O.o
@WarpnesGamingZone
@WarpnesGamingZone 7 жыл бұрын
I just don´t want to learn how to make flow + circles but I randomly clicked on this video and I liked the voice and still watched it to the end Subscribed like the voice
@zenitsuagatsuma9185
@zenitsuagatsuma9185 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@hiendlxxl
@hiendlxxl 7 жыл бұрын
4:15 thats a monstrata map right? I see that from 10 miles away xd
@misterdinner3648
@misterdinner3648 7 жыл бұрын
who can't recognize a monstrata map instantly, they all play the same.
@mystic5008
@mystic5008 6 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ, whilst most Monstrata maps are pp farm trash that is the same as the last, Monstrata can create some very unique and well made maps. But unfortunately he chooses not to a lot of the time.
@mystic5008
@mystic5008 6 жыл бұрын
Just misinterpreted it, sorry about that.
@oxey_
@oxey_ 6 жыл бұрын
Bikko You two are the best example of good behaviour on the internet I have even seen, good job
@k.a.8725
@k.a.8725 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Now I know why my mouse grip is always messed up.
@shtoof
@shtoof 7 жыл бұрын
hey are you sick
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
yes
@ChekitoChannel
@ChekitoChannel 7 жыл бұрын
rip
@vara48
@vara48 7 жыл бұрын
mice conversation m8s
@krakerbingo
@krakerbingo 5 жыл бұрын
@@pishifat hey are you still sick
@anotherstranger6657
@anotherstranger6657 4 жыл бұрын
oh no
@misterdinner3648
@misterdinner3648 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, Mo makes videos? He was one of the first people to mod my current rank priority.
@Elyuwu_
@Elyuwu_ 7 жыл бұрын
Good mappers make good use of "flow" and i love it! So i would say this is important for mapping, although i cant map for shit
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly i find even 90° angles to be confortably snappy, even more so if they're shaped like squares
@itsgollem5585
@itsgollem5585 7 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I have question. What happened to you at 2:30 . It is happening to me everty single time I play ( it is worse at longer maps ). I have to readjust my mouse at every single break or even in play (during sliders, some slow parts etc. ) when there are no breaks. Am I the only one this is happening to? I am getting pretty mad when I miss almost at the end of the map because of my mouse doesn't fit properly into my hand :/ If you guys have any tips, I would apreciate it ^.^
@biennenaz4291
@biennenaz4291 7 жыл бұрын
reversearrows are nice to change direction too
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
[flow + sliders]
@RuhonAhmed
@RuhonAhmed 7 жыл бұрын
0:35 that inspect element doe
@franco-fz1dk
@franco-fz1dk 7 жыл бұрын
You're a god
@Marathown
@Marathown 7 жыл бұрын
Would you mind sharing that BG that indicated play field and editor field?
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7518324/menu-background.jpg
@NeoKillerxX
@NeoKillerxX 7 жыл бұрын
can u make some kind of pack of maps to improve these things ?
@commentator3513
@commentator3513 7 жыл бұрын
good flow = the notes kinda go into each other naturally bad flow = gotta correct course often
@ariankagrand4467
@ariankagrand4467 7 жыл бұрын
from my understanding, flow is basically how comfortable you are in playing a beatmap.
@Attewir
@Attewir 7 жыл бұрын
Man can you make a map that is like the opposite of very well flowing, but still maintain some kind of sense so it's not completely random? Like the hardest to read map that doesn't break rules, I need that in my life (or a link to one that already exists, that would be nice too :D)
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
older maps are pretty good examples of that
@Attewir
@Attewir 7 жыл бұрын
***** they usually seem pretty easy, how about something very hard?
@Haganenno121
@Haganenno121 7 жыл бұрын
"Even though nobody shares the same idea what makes movement natural" You explained it in your own video. Your hand accelerates to the opposite direction when you're stopping to hit a circle. That said, I don't understand - am I the only person who finds jumping literally the same pattern 3-5 times harder than different stuff? Skystar's Ame to Asphalt back and forths already feel hard and flower dance stacked back and forths feel like hell to me.
@osuology
@osuology 7 жыл бұрын
Different types of flow are easier to play for certain people than others. This is why a map from a different person is different from other maps because it doesn't play the same way. You might find back and forths very hard compared to low angle jumps, versus my opinion, which is the exact opposite.
@obee58
@obee58 7 жыл бұрын
hand physics
@hecko-yes
@hecko-yes 7 жыл бұрын
So far I've seen you using hard maps as examples. Do these techniques work for lower difficulties?
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
yeah. these ideas are less strict as difficulty gets lower
@qrunchosu9547
@qrunchosu9547 7 жыл бұрын
what's the map that only rotates one way?
@PPP87773
@PPP87773 7 жыл бұрын
nais
@Pllagg
@Pllagg 2 жыл бұрын
i got idea,
@ssssssssedb
@ssssssssedb 7 жыл бұрын
im a bit late to comment here but i really hope you turned the lows in your vocal signal down after realizing you cant hear a single fucking thing you say it doesnt add "richness," it just makes it sound muddy and unclear. other than that, good video my dude
@d3monslay3r4
@d3monslay3r4 7 жыл бұрын
u sound sick
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
i sound permanently sick but i was actually sick when recording this
@fkeyzuwu
@fkeyzuwu 7 жыл бұрын
if you will ever open up to more opinionated informitive videos(like when and how to overmap or undermap for example), i got a few subjects you can talk about. obviously finish with the basics first, but once thats done there are more then enough topics that you can edjucate on generally and then give your way of doing it. if thats a thing you're willing to try.
@fkeyzuwu
@fkeyzuwu 7 жыл бұрын
sorry if thats a bit messy but basically still tutorial videos but on topics that are not completly agreed on, that you can show different opinions of people.
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
overmapping seems like a good topic already. what else do you have in mind?
@fkeyzuwu
@fkeyzuwu 7 жыл бұрын
slider art slider velocity changes. not sure if it includes on gimmicks since slider velocity has a strong connection with song and sound intensity. you can include obsurd use of slider velocity changes in gimmicks, but a seperate video on more "justified" slider velocity changes readablilty, includes stacking and expectations map theme if thats possible somehow.i mean it sort of in the style of the map, like what do you want to do with the map and make it look "complete" in the sense of everything looks, sounds, and fits well together. cant really explain it too well, its just the overall feel of the map that makes it feel like a good map. consistentcy thats a few i just thought of right now, if have more ill pm u ingame or something
@uliseslara9514
@uliseslara9514 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome dude keep it up you help me a lot, now i know y me maps sucks dick a lot hehexd
@over_loadcode
@over_loadcode 7 жыл бұрын
PogChamp
@mezelyus-
@mezelyus- 7 жыл бұрын
hoyl
@hansijawns
@hansijawns 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, am I the only one who wouldn't be able to hit repeated jumps if my life depended on it? It's just impossible to me! It might be a reading issue rather than a flow issue though...
@Thev1ros666
@Thev1ros666 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's harder with tablet than mouse to hit them. I've played both and patterns like stars and the back and forth jumps in Ame to asphalt seem easier with tablet. But back and forth jumps in the same position like in Airman are harder.
@hansijawns
@hansijawns 7 жыл бұрын
Seanald the funny thing is, I'm playing mouse only. Thinking about it, that might also be the reason...
@katl8825
@katl8825 7 жыл бұрын
for me it's a focus issue, and I tend to tap slower and slower as the jumps are repeated :( (-tablet player)
@sakurahikxri
@sakurahikxri 7 жыл бұрын
Can i have the skin?
@MaTrIxG
@MaTrIxG 7 жыл бұрын
skin?
@finch6474
@finch6474 6 жыл бұрын
hello there
@thetrainingfreak2177
@thetrainingfreak2177 7 жыл бұрын
Zombies
@MadHypnofrog
@MadHypnofrog 7 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who's triggered by those jumps in paradisus-paradoxum cause they're literal cancer
@venix42
@venix42 7 жыл бұрын
my req xD
@user-jw4tj4sq9k
@user-jw4tj4sq9k 7 жыл бұрын
pishi is that skin private?
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
nope dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7518324/new%20skin.osk
@Lucas-yo3ut
@Lucas-yo3ut 7 жыл бұрын
I'm on my phone pls reply to this so I can open the link on my pc
@user-jw4tj4sq9k
@user-jw4tj4sq9k 7 жыл бұрын
Lucas xD
@Lucas-yo3ut
@Lucas-yo3ut 7 жыл бұрын
:DD
@MrBlackOP
@MrBlackOP 7 жыл бұрын
what happened with your comment section O_o
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
nobody mentioned zombies yet it's great
@hecko-yes
@hecko-yes 7 жыл бұрын
zombies
@sakurahikxri
@sakurahikxri 7 жыл бұрын
pishifat, can I have the skin please?
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7518324/new%20skin.osk
@tabletalenovo9695
@tabletalenovo9695 3 жыл бұрын
I understand everything in this video, but I just can't apply it. I spend half an hour listening to the same 5 seconds of the song, without making any progress. Mapping is not for me.
@gdcheerios
@gdcheerios 5 жыл бұрын
Nice dance bot
@theme20201
@theme20201 7 жыл бұрын
why does it always look like you're cursordancing
@powerliftingteen8129
@powerliftingteen8129 7 жыл бұрын
The circular stuff? Its cuz he wants us to see what hes talking about
@emiliatheworst
@emiliatheworst 7 жыл бұрын
skin?
@pishifat
@pishifat 7 жыл бұрын
dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7518324/new%20skin.osk
@emiliatheworst
@emiliatheworst 7 жыл бұрын
***** thx bby
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