Our Big Fight // RELAX

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[@mmmartinax]

You guys should do the “We listen and we don’t judge challenge”☺️

[@sarahzahn8454]

Colleen saying “if I ever go on tour again” and Erik correcting to “when you do” made me tear up 🥹 Love how supportive he is always🥰

[@amandat608]

I get Erik's point. In the alternative, rebellious culture of our youth, we feared looking like a "poser." It was thought that someone wearing the band shirt to the concert is a "poser" trying to show that they're a fan, while true fans don't have to wear the shirt to prove anything.

[@sarahjayneroe8859]

I wear stuff to concerts, movies, theme parks, etc. But I agree with Erik on his arguments against it. It's cringey and dorky and I'm just happily aware I am those things. Colleen, you're always saying how things are "vibes" (like days of the week feeling like certain colors), so why does Erik have to give you a factual reason why for some occasions it's acceptable and some it's cringey, when he's clearly just going off his vibes too? I totally get what he's saying, and I don't care if people think I'm cringey if my goal is just to have fun, and you can also think it's not cringey, that's fine too. Things are cool and not cool, that's just the way the world works.🤷‍♀️

[@laurawhitehouse7946]

This 🙌🏻 100% 😂

[@talyaschube9238]

exactly!! it’s just a cultural thing. he’s not saying nobody can do it but it just is cringey. there doesn’t always need to be a factual reason!

[@PawsinParis]

I listen to metal and it is considered a faux pas to buy merch at a concert and then wear it. Some people think it represents being a fake fan. Wearing a band T from an older tour etc. is fine though…but honestly just wear what you want, people who care too much about silly things don’t matter.

[@LisamarieNHtoTx]

Colleen “this is probably REAL boring for people to listen to” Me. *standing in the middle of my living room staring up at my tv unable to look away* 😳

[@catherinec8152]

As someone in a band that has traveled all over, it is definitely an unspoken rule to not wear a band’s shirt to the show. I think it’s because if you’re there at the show that means you’re a supporter, whereas if you’re at a sporting event you wear the team’s merch that you’re rooting for because there are 2 different teams so you’re showing the team and others there which one you’re supporting. I think the point of merch, especially with smaller bands, is to show other people who may not know about the band or find that other person out and about that likes the same band you like. So it’s less so that you can’t wear the band shirt to the show, it’s moreso PLEASE wear it out and about! If you’re smiling out at us out in the audience, we know you’re a supporter!

[@Pollybear0]

As someone from Canada, I’ve noticed that Erik’s way of pronouncing words is pretty much how we speak here. Where as what Colleen says is definitely how we think “Americans” speak. Maybe due to proximity to Connecticut. but I’ve even noticed this when Erik talks about his highschool experience, it’s quite similar to what we experience here in Ontario. Geography is cool!

[@sp00kyMerBabe]

I know what Erik is referring to with the band tees, and regardless of if it’s right or wrong I DO remember that being sort of an unspoken “rule.” If I had to try and explain why it might be considered seen as “cringy” or a faux pas, it’s because in that particular music scene/culture it was not cool to come across as a “super-fan” or a “try-hard” as Erik was saying. Basically to wear a shirt from the preforming band would come across as attention getting and trying to get everyone to know that you were really into that band, so instead people would usually wear like shirts of other bands from the same genre. 🤘🤓

[@Anetax3]

I’m with Colleen on experiment. For experience, we don’t say ‘ex pear ience’, we say ‘ex peer ience’

[@stilllight1712]

I say experiment the way Erik says it. Never heard "expearamint." When Colleen imitates Erik, she says it with a British accent, which he doesn't do. Erik sounds like he keeps saying "Thin foil."

[@shawnat5176]

Hi Colleen ♡ my daughter did the neuro feedback and they had this big flat screen on the wall with different nature scenes that was interactive and when they had her concentrate on controlling her breathing, the tree leaves & flowers would grow & bloom depending on how she would breathe. It was really neat how it worked. ❤

[@birgitchevalier8927]

I feel like a sports team, is kinda ment too feel like you are part of a team but a singer or band is on a stage and kind of ment to stand out and be admired by their fans. (I agree with Erik here).

[@stilllight1712]

It might be cringey to wear a band shirt to a punk band vs Taylor Swift because there's an element of camaraderie in a TS concert & a sports game, while a punk band is more about individuals. Also maybe more emphasis on being cool.

[@quiltea56]

I remember when my sister was Flynn's age. She was in class and sneezed and her tooth flew across the room. I bit into an apple and my tooth stayed in the apple. Losing teeth is weird but the tooth fairy comes and that makes in a little exciting the next day. Colleen I am so proud of you for being brave and going through that new treatment. Hugs and blessings

[@karligranger9175]

I got neurofeedback as a little girl! It worked BEAUTIFULLY the first time, but then it wore off. I went to a different clinic to get it again, but it didn’t work. This was years ago, so I hope there are advancements that make it more effective!!

[@karligranger9175]

Also I’m so happy to hear they use “sticky things!” When I did it, they dipped the electrodes (I think that’s what they’re called) in a paste/gel!! Ugh it made my hair so gross!!

[@stacyfiguracion3638]

I think the word Erik needed to explain here was “poser.” When you wear a band shirt to their concert (especially indie/alternative music) you look like you are trying to prove you are a fan. “Posing” as a fan if you will. The theory is a true fan doesn’t need to prove they are a fan (hence the “try-hard” commend Erik made.) One of the meanest things you could be called when I was in that scene in middle school was a “poser.”

[@lizettediaz5876]

Colleen! You should do the same”we listen and we don’t judge” trend with Erik! Also hi I love you I’ve been following you for 10+ years and watch alllll your vlogs and podcasts ❤️

[@chelle_ham]

Can we appreciate how the dolls are in a different spot each episode? I look forward to finding them each podcast. 😆

[@kmarie5301]

If you use a lot of aluminum foil make sure you are recycling it too! It’s an element so it is 100% recyclable for FOREVER It’s just like a really thin coke can!

[@kimbrellcirrito756]

Technically you're supposed to rinse out your Coke cans but nobody does that so China stopped accepting our recycling now it's pretty much all going into landfills

[@ohmy1030]

Also musical theater and sports knowledge between the two of you CANNOT be equal. I’ve heard Erik sing and know words to so many songs, know plot, etc and Colleen, baby girl, I love your football knowledge journey but it isn’t to that level yet. Seriously love you though 😂

[@MissCookieness]

I fully understand what Erik is trying to say with wearing merchandise. It is not cringy or embarrassing nowadays. Everyone should wear whatever they want like colleen said BUT there has been a cultural shift in that. In sports all my life people have worn merchandise - it is what it is no change there. When you looked or look in a stadium most people wear it, rarely anyone wore or wears everyday clothes. For art things it was considered not appropriate and in some areas still is and concerts and pop cultures have changed that but in Vienna, Austria you would never ever see anyone go with merchandise to an opera or musical - you go there with really fancy clothes. You would not even be let in in jeans or merch. That's because it was something reserved to wealthy society in the past while sports was not. Some sports were for workers class only so the background and history of those things is totally different. And while I agree with colleen that nowadays it can be compared as areas of passion - it is not fair to discredit or say that the history of those is the same because it is not..In the 90s, earls 2000s only hard-core, cringy fans wore merch t-shirts to concerts, everyone else would dress normal or fancy (like for tswift :)) and get the merch for home and to show around. Nowadays way more people wear merch but I feel like they wear it less in everyday life. Again not saying nowadays it's not appropriate or smth wrong with it. It's just the history and how we grew up and how our society and changes within are represented

[@libertyadrianamusic]

I never agree with any of Erik’s arguments, but I think this podcast is my favorite thing ever 😂

[@CarolCurotto]

There is SO much research on this therapy you’re having Colleen! Soooooo much ! And it’s truly been life saving/ life changing for many people!!!

[@cecybellard2]

Okay no, usually on Colleen's side but Erik's right with wearing a lions shirt to a game is not the same as wearing a cold play shirt to a cold play concert. don't ask me why

[@kathleenstemkowski9918]

I for sure thought Colleen was gonna say Saran Wrap was the skin of a sticker 😂😂

[@LittleNyx13]

I just want to say, the second Colleen asked the restaurant question, I immediately said in n out 😂

[@natashasingh513]

Colleen I love you to bits and teeny tiny pieces but Erik definitely pronounces experiment the correct way 😂.

[@brittwilder14]

No way. Colleen does.

[@IstgCiara]

Eric screaming nerd and pointing at Colleen is sooooo so funny I rewatched it so many times

[@Juliiebee]

I’m with Erik on this . I would not go and see Dane cook while wearing a Dane cook shirt. I would totally wear a lions shirt at a lions game . NOT THE SAME thing at all lol Colleen doesn’t understand because you guys are completely different people , have different views and interests that the other people doesn’t understand,, and that’s ok

[@desertcole4213]

Thank you for sharing about the neuroscience stuff. I am going to look into it for my daughter. Anything that could help her 🙏 thank you 😘

[@sleepingonions]

Eric hiding in his chair everytime he gets embarrassed is everything 🤣

[@talyaschube9238]

i absolutely agree with eric. there aren’t reasons for everything that’s cool or uncool, that’s just how society evolved to be. people can obviously wear the band’s shirt if they want to just as people can wear “uncool” clothes if they want to. side note, i definitely do listen to the artist’s music on the way to their concert and if eric thinks that music gets old that easily he needs to find some better music 😭

[@jeannine8400]

Wearing the T-Shirts to the band you’re seeing is definitely a thing. I don’t think it’s cringy at all. I bet the person you’re seeing loves seeing his/her merch on others. No shade on Erik at all, just an opinion. Oh and yes, “when you tour again!!” Love that.

[@kaitlynncosta]

When Erik brought up EXPERIMENT - instant smile on my face!!!! My bf and I have the SAME discussion, I say it like Colleen and my bf says it like Erik 😂😂

[@eleanoraskew8407]

WOWOWW THE FALLACIES ARE FLYINGGGG first- Colleen take a sports test and Eric take a theater exam. Second- it is ExperEment Third- NO ONE SHOULD PREGAME EVENTS, if you don’t know what is happening at a concert then pregaming is to late to party

[@allysprow3614]

I think it’s so fun to wear an outfit tailored to the show you’re seeing! Like the Taylor Swift eras outfits. I even saw Legally Blonde the Musical on tour last year and everyone wore pink. It was awesome! I felt so safe and like I was part of a community

[@leoram1991]

Lol the clip from family guy with peters struggle anger with the ceren wrap thing absolutely kills me 😂😂😂😂😂 every time so relatable

[@derfranz5770]

Although I’m not a Swiftie, I have to agree with her on that: “The worst kind of person is someone who makes someone feel bad, dumb or stupid for being excited about something.” Where what you want wherever you want.. No double-standards here!

[@ras3877]

I think it’s the difference between rock type shows and musicals/ commercial pop for whether or not you can wear the performers merch. In rock, metal, punk etc it’s looked down on but with musical theatre or pop I think everyone does it. Different cultures Really! But either way no one is going to mess with you so do what you want 😊

[@1love4bizzybone]

Learning about the brain thing is very interesting idk ifi could do anything like that i would totally freak out to change my brain from what it normally is but not boring at all to hear about your experience.

[@tiffy1031]

I will FOREVER be on the side of Colleen about the band merch aguement. It has always made me so mad that people think it's cringe and lame. That is WHY they sell merch. It's showing the band that you support them! The ONLY rime I will go without wearing one upon arrival is bc I haven't seen them yet. As soon as I get there, I buy merch and go change into said merch.

[@brandeerodriguez8536]

I personally could see a difference in your manner when you recorded after your appointment. I really hope this helps you, you deserve to feel better.

[@kamina33]

We use cling wrap to wrap up a Christmas ball. It is a game where each person can unwrap this ball full of layers of saran wrap and little candy or trinkets and money. The person next to them rolls two die and when they get a pair the ball is passed to them to the left. The dice is also passed to the left and so on until the ball is all unwrapped. The saran wrap is not one long piece. It is piece after piece. You are not allowed to rip the saran wrap. You must unwrap piece after piece. You get to keep what falls out of the "ball" during your turn. It's frantic and fun!

[@ravenrose-x8b]

I'm from the UK we say experiment Erik is right

[@playwithmeinsecondlife6129]

The puppets are on the couch messing with each other. I love you guys!

[@morganfern29]

15:44 those sticky things are called Leeds. I have had EKG’s, EEG’s, Sleep study’s done many many times before and had leeds on my body. So I know a thing or two about medical supplies. I am not a doctor/nurse, but my mom is a nurse, and I see a butt ton of doctors in my life. Hope that helps you Colleen. Love watching your vlogs and podcasts.

[@CarolCurotto]

They are “leads”. ❤

[@allisong1551]

The sticky part is an electrode and the leads attach to that 😊

[@KES47Brown]

The little plastic pieces that hold tags on clothes and such?! Why?! I hate them! I never have scissors nearby so I have to rip them off.. chance a hole. Or the little square pieces get STUCK under the clothes.. so you have to try to pry them out! Whyyyyy!! Stop! But also the stickers on clothes & items! Stopppp putting stickers on everything I buy! The sticky goo gets stuck on everything! I bought a vans shirt once and it had the gross sticker on it, when I peeled it off.. it had square goo leftover junk. Never came off my shirt. My flower pots, stickers. Stop it now! Oof

[@brittwilder14]

I've been meaning to comment about the pronunciations for several podcasts. I watch EVERY SINGLE podcast, and EVERY SINGLE time the topic of a prounounciation of a word comes up, I think colleen is right. Here's my theory - colleen aren't you from Kansas or Missouri originally? I'm from missouri and we say all of our words the same way. Erik's version always sounds so wrong lol. Maybe it's a Midwest thing!!!

[@mrskrystal32]

How passionate you got when Erik said it wasn’t the same as wearing a team Shirt or Jersey. You guys are the best. I laughed so much.

[@vanessagualeni8314]

I agree with both of you! But I understand that when you’re young going to small indie concerts you want to appear cool to the band. I used to have a delusional thought that the band would want to be my friend, but only if I didn’t appear as a “crazy super fan” aka caring too much or wearing their merch. This was absolutely an unspoken rule growing up that I now think is irrational and dumb haha!

[@RebeccaAltig]

As an emt, the ekg pads are indeed “stickies” … “just gonna put a couple stickies on ya”

[@valarya]

I say experiment the way Colleen does and my whole family is from the South 🤷‍♀😂

[@angelikahanson294]

Erik yelling "Neerrrdddd" made me spit my coffee everywhere 😂

[@Leeshie722]

Erik I AGREE WITH YOU!!!! I say experiment the same way!!! Must be an east coast thing!! lol 😂 love you both so much!!! ❤

[@kendallking3016]

I’m 40 now but i had a phase where i was going to concerts in my youth. And I remember it was so NOT cool to wear the band shirt of who you’re seeing. I did anyways 🤣

[@russtyklingon1]

In regards to the ideology of the band shirt. If you wear band merch at all. In more niche genres of music, wearing another artists shirt (especially tour merch) to a show, is kind of like a badge of validity (like you are well versed in that style of music. And are a part og that scene, as opposed to having heard one song on the radio and then hit the merch booth before entering the concert.) I feel that this is the primary belief behind concert attire. And in regards to why wearing sports jerseys to games is done without question. It is because it is a direct competition where you are expected to show your support. The crowd also is a huge part of the spectacle and seeing a team's colors in the crowds shows where the support is. Likewise I feel like if you went to a battle of the bands you would obviously wear the merch of the band you were supporting. No opinions on it either way, just bringing up some points that may have been overlooked.

[@pnkbuttafly923]

I love when you guys bicker and challenge each other. It way more entertaining

[@nikkij2227]

Thanks for reading my comment! I understand getting sick of songs if you listen too much- but for me that’s not the case. The anticipation for the upcoming concert is exciting and what keeps me listening like that. But once the concert is over I won’t listen to the artist as much as I did beforehand. ❤

[@shannonjdobson]

I’m with Erik on experiment 😅 I’ve never thought about the band tee thing. I get excited to wear their merch to their shows. It makes it feel fun

[@ohmy1030]

I have so many opinions. I say expeeeriment and honestly it should probably be experiment but whatever. Secondly, I don’t feel that strongly about whether it’s right or wrong to wear a band tee to a concert but it’s DEFINITELY not the same as wearing a jersey to a sports game. There are two sides at a sporting event and you’re showing who’s side your on when wearing their colors/jersey etc. but if you want to wear a Jim Gaffigan shirt to his show and look like a stalker, you go for it 😂😅 jk jk everyone should wear what makes them happy. Love yall!

[@amymc2257]

You read my comment for a second time ❤ we're besties now ❤

[@rachelthomas4276]

Erik: I wasn’t genuinely comparing them Colleen:👁️~👁️

[@rayskywalker4]

If you think it’s cringey to dress up for a movie or a concert. Then for sports it should be cringey too it’s literally the same thing Erik🤣

[@jess_elszy]

Wearing a fan shirt/merch shows you're keen or extra excited. Some people don't want to SHOW that to others, because they don't want to be judged. This seems like an insecurity. They're thinking about how others feel before their own feelings. Cringe is what we feel when embarrassed, uncomfortable, or disgusted. It's an internal response to an external situation. If you don't feel free to do something based on what others might be feeling, that reflects your own inner program of insecurity ("others may not like me" or "I might not be accepted," etc.). I think most of us have some cringe-based inner programs that keep us from experiencing joy sometimes.

[@rachelthomas4276]

“If I ever tour again someday” gives me such hope 🙏🙏🙏

[@ElenaMae93]

The tshirt thing makes so much sense. It is very try hard or pick me to wear the band that you’re going to see. It’s cringe.

[@pnkbuttafly923]

I agree with Colleen. It’s not cringy to wear a performers shirt to a concert. I actually thought it was cool to do that

[@lindamartin3695]

That was far from boring, Colleen. Your brain scanning is fascinating! Thank you for sharing this experience

[@Totalshark2go]

I saw that documentary!!! And all i could think about the whole time was Flynn’s possible reaction

[@Savvy955]

I love looking for the puppets every week. It's like elf of a shelf.

[@PennyLane13]

On the pronunciation thing - Erik’s pronunciation of experiment is correct. Re Aluminium, the British pronunciation is used in almost all English-speaking countries. I think the US is the only ones to drop the ‘i’ at the end. In Aus we use the British pronunciation.

[@heatherbillpotter1266]

I say experiment the same way as Colleen. I do think both are correct though. Just depends on where you are from possibly.

[@CarolCurotto]

Regarding Eric’s stomach sounds … those noises happen during the “rest and digest” phase. To be in that phase, the body has to be in a calm and happy state. When you have those noises while with another person , it says a lot about how happy and relaxed and comfortable you are in their presence!!! I thought you wld like this little tidbit of information!! ❤

[@avery9239]

weird coincidence…. in my health class at school we had the exact same experiment conversation!! my teacher (who grew up in arizona) pronounced it like colleen “ex-peer-iment” and i’d say the students were split 70/30 with more saying it like erik. maybe it’s an east coast thing? because i’m east coast and i say ex-pear-iment. so interesting!!!

[@chriiistiiiie]

to be so real i wore a coldplay shirt to coldplay like 3 weeks ago and saw thousands of others doing the same, maybe the concert era is evolving

[@SabinJBB]

I'm often aligned with Eric , but on wearing "merch clothing" of the sport team , movie or theater characters you are going to watch, I'm with Colleen: the are the same!! In my opinion is a fan thing, and the most enthusiast fans wear clothing of the even or team they are going to watch, not not all people watching the sport match or move or theater wear the "March clothing". It's true that is more frequent in sport events (at the venue), but that only showns that sport match attendees are often more "fanatic" than those watching a movie , a play or a concert. lol probably the competivenes in sports accentuated the need for fans to difference themselves and show their colors, to differentiate from the other team.... but the same goal have the movie, play and concert attendees: they want to make sure everyone knows they are not regular watchers, but that they are super Fans! And to be proud of your identity, when not hurting nor denying the identity of others, is healthy , nice and creates social bonding amongst keen people. they motives are the same: a fan/l or a "group identity" thing. :) By the way, i love who painfulness, silliness and respect you truly show in your genuine discussions. It's a balanced playful beakering! I'm so happy for you both. What a nice pieces of Eric, who used to be so camera shy. thanks for sharing your thoughts and conversation style.

[@melrox8809]

I've only heard people say experiment the way that Erik says it LOL

[@Jerri88510]

Take your cling wrap and Foil rolls and make yarn hat ornaments! They are adorable and there are videos on here with instructions, I know you have the yarn in a craft box...... it's a thought to use your old cardboard rolls

[@laurawhitehouse7946]

To me, the shirt debate is more akin to wearing an ‘I ❤ NY’ shirt in New York.. or a Target shirt to target.. in some circumstances it conveys ‘I’ve supported this person before, I am a bigger fan than you’, rather than, ‘I love this person’

[@Groovysparrow]

Love you guys ❤

[@KellseyMae21]

Aluminum is only the element Aluminum. Tin is another element and is usually an alloy (mix of metals) when we use it.

[@avery9239]

tin and aluminum are literally different elements on the periodic table colleen 😭 so they are definitely different

[@pnkbuttafly923]

I’m so glad Colleen met her arguing match😂

[@sarahdeforke9477]

was erik on an episode of Bones? just watched an episode with someone who looks like erik in it but he looks so different!! If so what was the experience like i love that show !

[@Geeeee217]

I'm sorry I agree with Erik here that there are certain music genres where it's just a faux pas to wear that particular band, usually with indie/rock ish stuff, it's just not done, there's just some unspoken rule that people abide by. It's kinda crazy that these same people could be at another genre of music concert and it's totally fine or equally go to a sports game etc, but the rule is almost the opposite there. Thinking about it, I guess it might also tie in with the fact it's usually the same kind of bands that people wear the band t-shirts and don't know their music, like there's just a lot of weight in wearing this band t-shirts and there a particular rule around it. It's nice that some places that the rule doesn't apply though!

[@tweedybird21]

I have absolutely no issues if people wear a concert shirt to a concert a movie shirt to a movie dress according to the concert like if it’s a country concert dress country or if they wear a jersey to a sports game I just personally don’t do that just because I don’t like materials of concert shirts, and jerseys and stuff. And depending who I’m going to the concert with, I might listen to the music before the concert or I might not cause, maybe I might just wanna talk on the way to the concert and not listen to music who knows Eric is wrong. Anybody can wear whatever they want and it’s not cringe at all.

[@ryleemscott]

the fact that i blurted out “IN N OUT!” and erik didn’t lmao. love yall ❤

[@makennagreer9980]

I think you are both right. Erik is referring to smaller bands not massive artists like Taylor. If you’re going to see a small/local band and you’re wearing their shirt it’s almost creepy in a way almost stalker-ish, to me. But if there are massive amounts of fans and they are all wearing it, it’s different. Anyway, im with Eric on this one larger bands it’s fine but with smaller ones I’m not saying you can’t wear it but just know you will stand out. And when you are asking him why it’s cringe is like asking why skinny jeans are out of style now. The answer is because it is. It’s as simple as that. Nobody knows why it’s cringe and why skinny jeans are now out of style. There isn’t one particular person that decides this and now we all have to follow. It is cringy because it is. It’s a simple as that.

[@marybrennan5736]

I guessed In and Out for Colleen!! Lol❤❤

[@rachemlil]

Hey Your wearing my favourite sweatshirt!!

[@britanyh99611]

Colleen got yah with this argument Eric. I’m normally w/ya bud…but sports fans wearing their team’s jerseys is THE SAME as a fan wearing their favorite artist.

[@CarolCurotto]

Of all the kitchen rolls … wax paper is my favorite! What’s superior is the wax paper / tin foil wrap combo !

[@rileyczartoryski5124]

Love Eric’s outfit today!

[@CarlyNicoleMusic]

The same thing happened to me as a kid where my tooth was so wiggly that it just fell out into my bottom lip😂

[@Allicia41]

Erik is referring to a specific culture. I’m not sure Colleen will understand it, as she didn’t experience it and would have rebelled against it anyway.

[@EBrenry]

French the llama! Obviously Colleen is a nerdfighter and Erik is not. Passionate zeal isn’t ever considered cringey among nerdfighters.

[@_telivision]

(re: band tees/fan tees) i experienced a bit of that “don’t be a fan, don’t show you care, too-cool-to-dance” era and it suckeddd. i think it’s less common now for sure. at least i never see it at shows these days.

[@CarlyNicoleMusic]

Colleen, I love you…there is not a universe where you know as much about sports as Erik knows about musical theater. In my opinion 😂