Our Brand New Land Rover Defender Was Fixed! But Then It Broke Again...

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@shaygaa
@shaygaa 3 жыл бұрын
Your story about the Defender is interesting keep on with the objective report style !
@3px0
@3px0 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Twain has a funny old saying about this......”Never buy a first generation car”.
@buzzofftoxicblog791
@buzzofftoxicblog791 3 жыл бұрын
Will stick with my 1970 SWB LAND ROVER USED VEG OIL BURNING NO TO LOCKED IN TOXIC CARBON BIG OIL #BUZZOFFTOXIC #CLIMATECHANGE
@jaskanwarrandhawa6577
@jaskanwarrandhawa6577 3 жыл бұрын
@@3px0 never buy a landrover
@hughmarcus1
@hughmarcus1 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a familiar story. Land Rover have always been drivers of innovation & new technologies. Unfortunately that means that it’s common for those things to go wrong. It may be that your Defender is in that category. Additionally, there’s hardly any petrol models out there. In Europe, no one would buy a petrol one (unless it’s the high end super fast one).
@quaidwilliams1426
@quaidwilliams1426 3 жыл бұрын
What I'd say gents. Get the Bronco.
@diablohellfire666
@diablohellfire666 3 жыл бұрын
There is no break in period for Land Rovers, they just break, period.
@speedtriprr537
@speedtriprr537 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, good one
@jaxandmore440
@jaxandmore440 3 жыл бұрын
There's no point in breaking in a Land Rover because they break before the break in period is over.
@Chris-hw4mq
@Chris-hw4mq 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah its already broken when it exits the factory. Probably incompetent peasents assemble the cars
@victorc6249
@victorc6249 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Good point!
@ThomasBeckerPlus
@ThomasBeckerPlus 3 жыл бұрын
COTD
@markl5156
@markl5156 3 жыл бұрын
That car dealership is a certified lemonade stand
@mulengakabanga7257
@mulengakabanga7257 3 жыл бұрын
There is no way it can break down like this
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
@@mulengakabanga7257 but......... but it just did
@CSV1973
@CSV1973 3 жыл бұрын
don’t buy land rover
@Paulinthewyld
@Paulinthewyld 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not the dealership. It’s the brand. It happens with range rovers and land rovers.... people buy these and this is actually pretty normal... sadly.
@sswwooppee
@sswwooppee 3 жыл бұрын
@@Paulinthewyld he should have said: Lemonade stand franchise.
@NotHunterCooper
@NotHunterCooper 3 жыл бұрын
Model Y: I'm going to be the biggest headache TFL has ever seen. Land Rover: *HOLD MY BEER*
@lettersandnumbersuc
@lettersandnumbersuc 3 жыл бұрын
funny.
@ChrisN06999
@ChrisN06999 3 жыл бұрын
TFL: Understandable have a nice day.
@mikefoehr235
@mikefoehr235 3 жыл бұрын
Good one
@PortersGarage
@PortersGarage 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@simplyseven007
@simplyseven007 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it feels good to land an awesome joke like this. Relish it.
@kinnybingman8666
@kinnybingman8666 3 жыл бұрын
Owning a Range Rover is kind of like having a good-looking girlfriend that's actually a drug addict. Expensive to have around and always need a fix
@seanstreets9268
@seanstreets9268 3 жыл бұрын
Haha - I'm British - I had a choice between a Range Rover Sport and a X5 3.0sd 08 reg on 55k. My mechanic loves Land Rovers. Shop full of Range Rovers. Instinctively I chose the USA made X5. 115k later apart from having the injectors cleaned, couple of suspension bits, headlight that started misting over and a couple of air bags at the back. She still starts on the button and has never let me down. Sadly it's not a proper Land Rover not being made in the UK. It's a Euro car - with a bit of UK design and I'm guessing most likely near asian software connecting the 85 ECUs?......
@tedunguent156
@tedunguent156 3 жыл бұрын
That one is not good-looking. It is FUGLY.
@seanstreets9268
@seanstreets9268 3 жыл бұрын
@@tedunguent156 what the x5 or the defender?
@mtanzaniammoja4543
@mtanzaniammoja4543 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha this made my day
@johnje4285
@johnje4285 3 жыл бұрын
Haha 😄 👏
@BillLaBrie
@BillLaBrie 3 жыл бұрын
I’m delighted that one can still have an authentic British car-owning experience even today, in 2020.
@robertwoodliff2536
@robertwoodliff2536 3 жыл бұрын
Is it not an "enhanced" British car owning experience.
@Chrisk427
@Chrisk427 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover / Jaguar isnt really british anymore, was bought out by TATA in 2008 , Indian bus/truck company and the quality decreases since then
@deevnn
@deevnn 3 жыл бұрын
LaBrie...sarcasm noted. chaka zulu...now do you get it?
@johncross2787
@johncross2787 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chrisk427 It was not possible to reduce the quality any further than it already was by that stage. People who relied on their 4x4 for their livelihood or in some extreme climates even for their lives, stopped buying LR years before.
@Chrisk427
@Chrisk427 3 жыл бұрын
@@johncross2787 I think you are right john. People are just nostalgic about the old defenders. They won’t ever make them like that again
@scottuv
@scottuv 3 жыл бұрын
There’s actually one defender here in the uk on KZbin that lasted 8miles before check engine light came on.. that’s 8 miles from collection from dealer 😬😬 you’ve done really well!!
@ernestkj
@ernestkj 3 жыл бұрын
at least it worked from the factory to the dealer and that's impressive enough! lol
@VampirusX
@VampirusX 3 жыл бұрын
The lifespan is decreasing from model to model... I am amazed 😂
@Jaml321
@Jaml321 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, they just save you the hassle of having to break it yourself. Now you get the famous LR experience from day 1.
@mustafajoseph134
@mustafajoseph134 3 жыл бұрын
Geez. Too much electronic nonesense
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaml321 lmaooo they early
@user-uq7io2os3r
@user-uq7io2os3r 3 жыл бұрын
LR have special dept which is responsible for that "special feature"😉😁👍
@douglastaylor8039
@douglastaylor8039 3 жыл бұрын
That's to keep you in their repair shop. Parts in the land rovers are programed to fail are failing to early
@WildestKrugerSightings
@WildestKrugerSightings 3 жыл бұрын
Just get a Land Cruiser.
@TheActiveAssault
@TheActiveAssault 3 жыл бұрын
But that’s a proper beast and these guys are dumb.
@typie34
@typie34 3 жыл бұрын
Even a jeep is better, at least an older one
@BGaud
@BGaud 3 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who traded in his 2020 Land Cruiser Heritage for a 2020 Defender 110. MISTAKE!
@JVan-ic6ic
@JVan-ic6ic 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheActiveAssault well I mean “hey here’s a car that works. Okay bye” doesn’t make for much content.
@peanuts2105
@peanuts2105 3 жыл бұрын
You might as well drive a wheelbarrow
@gasken2182
@gasken2182 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you'd bought this car "incognito", so we could see how the average joe was treated by JLR.
@KuyaArbee
@KuyaArbee 3 жыл бұрын
Right! I bet if they were normal customers they wouldn’t be treated like this! If anything Land Rover is unreliable as hell!
@y4nnickschmitt
@y4nnickschmitt 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they treated them like VIPs....😂 I mean who else would have gotten an uber instead of a loaner car. 😉
@austinmcbride7139
@austinmcbride7139 3 жыл бұрын
@@y4nnickschmitt ikr?!! Unacceptable for a “premium”’brand
@sirdekkar
@sirdekkar 3 жыл бұрын
I think maybe this video shows how the normal customer would be treated, the next video they will have discovered the videos and will go above and beyond to make themselves look good.
@BaleshNTP
@BaleshNTP 3 жыл бұрын
Why are all the fun new cars trash quality?
@EODHammer
@EODHammer 3 жыл бұрын
There's no bad module. They just have no idea what's wrong.
@millomweb
@millomweb 3 жыл бұрын
I think the solution is obvious. Upgrade the software to the previous version. I've done it with this computer. It came with Windows 8 and I've upgraded it to Windows 7.
@michelt4390
@michelt4390 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A software "update" on a vehicle that's 1 week old... Shouldn't it have been done before delivery?
@TheRetarp
@TheRetarp 3 жыл бұрын
@@michelt4390 I had the same thing happen to my brand new ford. Check engine light at about 3000 miles. There was a TSB for a software update months before I bought my car they just didn't bother. Will likely be my last new car purchase. Dealers don't care about their customers.
@garage779
@garage779 3 жыл бұрын
The module is the only part that works, everything else is bad.
@martin-from-naboo
@martin-from-naboo 3 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. I have similarly bad experience with Lincoln, they still don't know what is wrong. My Jeep had some issues but at least all was resolved. Tesla as well, they have a mobile service on top of it, didn't have to go anywhere, all fixed in my driveway.
@Donsfast
@Donsfast 3 жыл бұрын
Having been in the towing industry, I appreciated people buying Land Rovers. They are extremely unreliable overall.
@COLE-qn7kq
@COLE-qn7kq 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Sbenis24
@Sbenis24 3 жыл бұрын
Yes job security for us
@user-xq2fz5tz9t
@user-xq2fz5tz9t 3 жыл бұрын
My neighbor got himself a Range Rover and it drives him crazy every week. There's just story after story of the bloody thing breaking down and stranded him silly. Then he finally decided enough is enough, sold the bloody thing.... And bought himself a Jaguar 🤣 The towing industry must've hit another jackpot.
@max28197
@max28197 3 жыл бұрын
Aha awesome for towing Industry...buy land to get it tow ...
@allflying3
@allflying3 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xq2fz5tz9t From one pile of junk, to another one. Man, his mechanic must be really happy.
@russella7263
@russella7263 3 жыл бұрын
They should give a free puppy with every land rover, so you wont have to walk home alone.
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
@johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@80for80
@80for80 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ChuddleBuggy
@ChuddleBuggy 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😅
@yengsabio5315
@yengsabio5315 3 жыл бұрын
That, at least, eases the torture, eh mate! Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines!
@michaelopere5424
@michaelopere5424 3 жыл бұрын
A free horse or a donkey would be more convenient,because they can provide a free and reliable ride back home.
@VortexVibe634
@VortexVibe634 3 жыл бұрын
They made sure the Uber was a Tundra for reliability concerns
@adeelanwar1.0
@adeelanwar1.0 3 жыл бұрын
😀
@mikebraun9673
@mikebraun9673 3 жыл бұрын
That Tundra looked to be a early 90"s model too....
@nomap2161
@nomap2161 3 жыл бұрын
They should've been given a loaner car. Every other car dealership gives loaners on higher end vehicles.
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikebraun9673 It’s not that old. Uber and Lyft have maximum ages vehicles can be.
@gilly3531
@gilly3531 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomap2161 a lot of dealership have shifted to uber-like services since Covid. Don't want to have to constantly deal with cleaning all the cars.
@mikeamizzle
@mikeamizzle 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they sent Andre back in an Uber. They couldn’t even spare you guys a loaner vehicle?
@joeinsocal
@joeinsocal 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how big of a loaner fleet they would need ? 😂
@brjha
@brjha 3 жыл бұрын
I do not believe that giving out loaners from another manufacturer would reflect highly upon the brand... LOL
@acerowoodberry1236
@acerowoodberry1236 3 жыл бұрын
Well then that means theyd need to tow two cars then
@kenny2skinny07
@kenny2skinny07 3 жыл бұрын
@@brjha I’m not sure because when my grandmother would take her Mercedes in for repair, they would loan fully loaded Toyota Camrys
@jbrenofficial
@jbrenofficial 3 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine would get Audi A7s or A6s when he took his 911 Turbo in for servicing so I mean it isn't always what you'd expect. He has 4 Porsches now, the cheapest of which is like $120,000, and his loaner cars are usually Audis.
@Stantonv
@Stantonv 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a tech for Land Rover we had a moto, "Reliability is overrated. "
@wernerbloemwagen6878
@wernerbloemwagen6878 3 жыл бұрын
Or as Jeremy Clarkson says : "Reliability is só tedious.. It's boring.."
@Mr.HieuVu
@Mr.HieuVu 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@TheVickersDoorter
@TheVickersDoorter 3 жыл бұрын
*motto - I know, spelling is so overrated too.
@khronin
@khronin 3 жыл бұрын
I dated a lady years ago that bought the Supercharged Range rover--a little over 100k.On the 2nd month the check engine light came on,I drove it sometimes and could tell something was not right with the supercharger--the power was sluggish.That vehicle was in and out of the shop several times--I think 3 in the first year--and these were not overnighters--these were 5 to 10 day layovers.When we stopped dating--that check engine light was on--car was in its 2nd year--had 14k miles.They also would fight her on giving a loaner car and had to give her a car from the used car lot because all 4 loaner cars were out--and this was everytime it broke.These vehicles also lose a lot of resale because of this.I would never get one.
@REDMAN298
@REDMAN298 3 жыл бұрын
@@khronin Do the english still drink warm beer because of lucas refrigerators?
@Johanniscool
@Johanniscool 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the poor suckers that buy one and don’t also have a 1m subscriber KZbin channel.
@williamsjoinery8186
@williamsjoinery8186 3 жыл бұрын
Can quality control really be that hard! Something is profoundly wrong and some heads need to roll. If they could turn their reputation around they would have so many more customers and I might be one of them.
@TheMrzucker21
@TheMrzucker21 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean "Rich poor suckers who buys land rovers"
@jeffsvolta1221
@jeffsvolta1221 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They do this with every manufacturer. I’m surprised Land Rover was dumb enough to give them such a poor vehicle.
@XerxezsX
@XerxezsX 3 жыл бұрын
😂 yeah because they listen to these KZbin fools saying that land rovers are perfect and reliable 😂
@clerns
@clerns 3 жыл бұрын
"Long term Land Rover Defender" Might wanna rethink that.
@jtomtl
@jtomtl 3 жыл бұрын
Super short term Land Rover lol
@Ilikepie18855
@Ilikepie18855 3 жыл бұрын
Wooper it’s long term...... in the shop!
@garage779
@garage779 3 жыл бұрын
This is a long term review, long term wait at the dealership. That's why they're so nice.
@simebaricevic2483
@simebaricevic2483 3 жыл бұрын
I was invited to JLR event 2 years ago where they were showing off the new Discovery...They took us over the course of the ramps, climbing up and down, demonstrating the capability of the vehicle, and as we got on the articulation ramp that puts the car on 3 wheels, Discovery’s screens froze, and vehicle stalled. It was quite embarrassing. I thought then that they’re way over complicating this vehicle with electronics, especially when reliability is questionable already. Your video proves the point. Good luck with that “white delight” 😬
@juliobarranco9850
@juliobarranco9850 3 жыл бұрын
You meant "white paperweight"
@HandyC
@HandyC 3 жыл бұрын
I was in a Vogue RangeRover on the test circuit when it shit it's rear suspension airbag and then consequently ripped the rear bumper off as it was dragging it's arse in the mud.. test driver was like. Oh well, I'll just get another one 😂 🙈 Good sales pitch mate... I think I'll give it a miss thanks.
@simebaricevic2483
@simebaricevic2483 3 жыл бұрын
@@HandyC that must have been hilarious and scary at the same time
@HandyC
@HandyC 3 жыл бұрын
@@simebaricevic2483 as an avid offroader anyway, I wasn't scared in the slightest. It was comical AF though. 😂👌🏽
@thomasautengruber8369
@thomasautengruber8369 3 жыл бұрын
Why would LR spend money on testing when there are hundreds of thousands of customers that can do it for you Automakers take note!
@thearousedeunuch
@thearousedeunuch 3 жыл бұрын
The videogame industry has been doing that for years now. It's not like people are annoyed, or anything like that. :)
@RealMrNails
@RealMrNails 3 жыл бұрын
I don't always test my code, but when I do, it's in production.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman 3 жыл бұрын
That's Telsa's business model already.
@bibasik7
@bibasik7 3 жыл бұрын
@@2011blueman No, Tesla does plenty of testing. It’s the quality control that they outsource to customers.
@therambler3713
@therambler3713 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@johndavies8608
@johndavies8608 3 жыл бұрын
A swedish friend of mine used to say....... Ah, the British. They make really wonderful cars, really badly!
@paulgraham8191
@paulgraham8191 3 жыл бұрын
In England they joke: “Landrover - making mechanics out of motorists since 1948!” That seems to be still the case in 2020 too 😂
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын
@DBD 34 Goldie Not true. Their older Diesels were incredibly simple specifically so their owners can work on them themselves. in fact, the TD5 ended the DIY era for LR.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын
@DBD 34 Goldie “Coincidentally”, all old cars had little electrics.
@Empirehog
@Empirehog 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like an IT issue over a Mechanical issue.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын
@@Empirehog Sometimes it is. Sometimes it’s literally blown fuses and loose connectors.
@seanstreets9268
@seanstreets9268 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forgot - Joe Lucas - The Prince of Darkness lol.
@dogwu2099
@dogwu2099 3 жыл бұрын
People complain when toyota use the same engine/gearbox for a dozen years. This is why.
@electroniccheeks
@electroniccheeks 3 жыл бұрын
Now that makes sense.
@manjotsandhu9539
@manjotsandhu9539 3 жыл бұрын
Yep that's why they are still reliable today, they take their time to implement new tech into their vehicle
@RegularGuy76
@RegularGuy76 3 жыл бұрын
Facts.........
@grabir01
@grabir01 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover has never used anything Toyota.
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 3 жыл бұрын
@@grabir01 thats the problem, why can't land rover uses ford ecoboost engines or some toyota engines?!
@mowcowbell
@mowcowbell 3 жыл бұрын
'Hard reboot'... so basically the dealership disconnected and reconnected the negative cable to the 12v battery. I think I'll go out in my garage and polish my trustworthy Honda.
@MrKieranps1990
@MrKieranps1990 3 жыл бұрын
Honda is a boring mosque wagon
@AG-rk5hj
@AG-rk5hj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKieranps1990 and Jaguar/Land Rover are unreliable garbage.
@alexanderrosales7675
@alexanderrosales7675 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKieranps1990 Land Rovers belong in the junkyard
@CarThings___
@CarThings___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderrosales7675 not the old ones, more reliable than any Honda
@alexanderrosales7675
@alexanderrosales7675 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarThings___ Hmmm gee I wonder why no one buys those I've seen more old Land Cruiser pickups and Hiluxes than land rovers still driving around the world than those
@robertb.4202
@robertb.4202 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover: Breaks down. Motor Trend: sUv Of ThE yEaR!
@gto4609
@gto4609 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad you can’t afford one
@garage779
@garage779 3 жыл бұрын
Read the review by C&D. Three fails in one week of driving.
@unfairsanic5089
@unfairsanic5089 3 жыл бұрын
@@gto4609 who wants to buy something that breaks down?
@gto4609
@gto4609 3 жыл бұрын
@@unfairsanic5089 I have had a range rover for almost 3 years now and it never broke down on me
@unfairsanic5089
@unfairsanic5089 3 жыл бұрын
@@gto4609 try 6 years of driving and more than 200k miles without breaking down
@Labergemusic
@Labergemusic 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Land Rover corporate hasn't just stepped in, replaced the vehicle and apologized profusely. This is comically bad for their public relations.
@jh5kl
@jh5kl 3 жыл бұрын
why should they? english brands have been doing this for decades, they put people talking about how expensive and bad german cars are, while they re the expensive and very dubious built quality ones and most people have idiotically loved all of that. americans in general jumped on the wagon and that has been the mantra that every so called 'petrolhead' knows to parrot very well, it has been working, why do you think they would change?
@muckspreader1able
@muckspreader1able 3 жыл бұрын
@@jh5kl what a stupid comment?Have you forgotten about VW🤣🤣
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 3 жыл бұрын
Meh. This is minor stuff. I guarantee you they have bigger fish to fry.
@habanero8192
@habanero8192 3 жыл бұрын
I'll bet you they would have IF any replacement wouldn't break down in the same fashion. I'll bet that they're ALL having problems ... throughout the production line.
@neilyakuza6595
@neilyakuza6595 3 жыл бұрын
So sorry about that, here we are replacing it with the same piece of junk.
@newbwheeler9777
@newbwheeler9777 3 жыл бұрын
Dang that sucks...the Defender is starting it’s life as on Offender. 🤕
@JamesLivewire
@JamesLivewire 3 жыл бұрын
Pretender*
@Ford-Explorer606
@Ford-Explorer606 3 жыл бұрын
Preventer
@Robbie6298
@Robbie6298 3 жыл бұрын
Owning a land rover is like having a hot bipolar girlfriend. Lotta fun, but you never know when she's gonna snap for no reason.
@nipex69
@nipex69 3 жыл бұрын
Funniest comment ever !!!!! jajajajajaja
@Dead_on_Arrival.
@Dead_on_Arrival. 3 жыл бұрын
Id keep her but not the car
@Robbie6298
@Robbie6298 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dead_on_Arrival. keep both... You can have 2 cars just like you can have 2 girlfriends.
@elliotmorton6311
@elliotmorton6311 3 жыл бұрын
My family have had Land Rover / Range Rovers and have had problems on problems with them. Went to Toyota and never had any more problems.
@elliotmorton6311
@elliotmorton6311 3 жыл бұрын
@trigolis Hi The worst was a two week old Range Rover cost over £70K that had total electrical failure in the wilds of Scotland, could not open the doors and our dogs where stuck in the back and we could not get in. A large stone was used to break a window to get the doors open and let the dogs out, a long work was then in order to contact the hotel for a taxi and then Land Rover recovery.
@kylepalmieri2377
@kylepalmieri2377 3 жыл бұрын
trigolis You’re actually defending unreliability by referencing that you get to eat doughnuts and drink coffee while you wait for your car to be fixed? Lol, that’s some serious fanboying right there, nobody I know wants to have to get their car repaired multiple times a year, especially a brand new model 🤣
@kylepalmieri2377
@kylepalmieri2377 3 жыл бұрын
trigolis Oh man.... that’s an understatement.
@johncross2787
@johncross2787 3 жыл бұрын
And Land Rover seriously expect people to drive to remote areas in these vehicles? My suggestion is that you always take 2 vehicles and make sure one of them is a Toyota.
@PeterCooperUK
@PeterCooperUK 3 жыл бұрын
There's an old joke.. if you want to go on safari, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back from safari, take a Land Cruiser.
@sannyfolkesson2226
@sannyfolkesson2226 3 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be better to bring a volvo c303?
@ryadhasanahmed5443
@ryadhasanahmed5443 3 жыл бұрын
John Cross lol if that was the case Land Rover wouldn't put 22inch wheels on their utilitarian offroader, they know the roughest terrain Defender owners will face is going over the kerb at the Starbucks drive thru
@galeriafuentes
@galeriafuentes 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterCooperUK or a land rover will go in the bush but a Toyota will bring you out the bush.
@galeriafuentes
@galeriafuentes 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt this was really targeting the real 4x4 community. They really messed this up
@chrisdemas8246
@chrisdemas8246 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I believe the only reason you are even get this type of “service” is because of your channel. The average person would likely be ignored for months.
@philip7415
@philip7415 3 жыл бұрын
True. Land Rover service is absolutely worse than mercedez
@watnw2411
@watnw2411 3 жыл бұрын
That's British engineering for yah should've just waited for the bronco
@philip7415
@philip7415 3 жыл бұрын
I had Mercedez and Land Rover. Everytme I enjoy service with Merk and suffer from land river services ( tried three different dealers. Same, more tried more suffered more troubles ).
@philip7415
@philip7415 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe even china branded cars may be more reliable or at least more fixable than Land Rover!
@shay10us
@shay10us 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. That's unacceptable for such an expensive vehicle. Really for any new vehicle.
@eaglen00b
@eaglen00b 3 жыл бұрын
There's no need to break in a LR because it already comes broken.
@yruhatin100
@yruhatin100 3 жыл бұрын
The best Land Rover is the Land Cruiser version made by Toyota.
@ZaberBiest
@ZaberBiest 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, good one. You forgot about the Patrol and G-Wagon versions.
@galeriafuentes
@galeriafuentes 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tiquillin
@tiquillin 3 жыл бұрын
The Australians say take a land rover to get to the outback but take a land cruiser to come back from the outback
@jobmunene3263
@jobmunene3263 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@afsana-e-banjara
@afsana-e-banjara 3 жыл бұрын
100% Agreed
@joeychaseable
@joeychaseable 3 жыл бұрын
New car dealerships are gonna hate selling your team cars. Keep showing real life issues. Never sell out to the Automakers! Kudos to TFL
@tacosr
@tacosr 3 жыл бұрын
I really want to like the Defender but I would never buy a vehicle that needs to go back to the dealer twice for repairs within the first few weeks of ownership and under 500 miles done. Great journalism as always TFL! Can't wait for the next video: Our Brand New Land Rover Defender Qualifies under Lemon Law
@gearjunkie3402
@gearjunkie3402 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Defender somewhat as well. But I saw the new Bronco today. I really like that. Even the interior was really nice. And most likely far more reliable Although its also a new model so you never now.
@weasle2904
@weasle2904 3 жыл бұрын
@@gearjunkie3402 The Bronco is using the existing Ecoboost engines and 10 speed transmissions that have been out for years, and have proven to be reliable.
@walkerl.9402
@walkerl.9402 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t LR also use the same 2.0L Turbo as Ford?
@swagger0im0lachskost
@swagger0im0lachskost 3 жыл бұрын
As a longterm landrover owner, something like they experienced is normal for landrover 🤣. Last time I was at the dealer the keyless entry suddenly worked like the car was a right hand drive. But the dealers are very polite and never charge anything for stuff like that. So if you buy a landrover. Just make a 5 minute check if everything is working
@gearjunkie3402
@gearjunkie3402 3 жыл бұрын
@@weasle2904 i know that engine and drive train are the same.
@genxiong2695
@genxiong2695 3 жыл бұрын
This SUV will still look like new in 10 years because it will spend most of it's time in a shop. It's a shop queen.
@thujo1330
@thujo1330 2 жыл бұрын
Haha love this
@supadoopa926
@supadoopa926 3 жыл бұрын
That feeling when the dealer has to send a 15-year-old Toyota pickup to give you a ride because your brand-new Land Rover is broken down for the second time in less than 500 miles. LOL.
@CIAG4PNP
@CIAG4PNP 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂👍
@palaboran2077
@palaboran2077 3 жыл бұрын
80% of all Land Rovers ever made are still on the road. You’ll be pleased to hear that the other 20% made it home.
@Luckysquirrel1256
@Luckysquirrel1256 3 жыл бұрын
Okay this comment got me! That's hilarious!
@Eirehunter22
@Eirehunter22 3 жыл бұрын
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻This deserves many thumbs up 🤣
@lauchlanstill6677
@lauchlanstill6677 3 жыл бұрын
Legit just copied someone else’s comment.
@MrSudanPresident
@MrSudanPresident 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@luvtiti
@luvtiti 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaa this is hilarious
@tyleranderson5823
@tyleranderson5823 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who sells cars, I always tell customers Land Rovers are a vehicle you lease and give back when the lease is up and its still in the warranty period lol. Im just glad you guys typically only keep vehicles for about a year!
@jldude84
@jldude84 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and make sure to live within walking distance of the dealer lol
@stout_tossme7541
@stout_tossme7541 3 жыл бұрын
When I got my 4 runner we were also look at a Grand Cherokee. The finance guy came out and was asking us what we were looking at. We told him, he said "With the Grand Cherokee get the extended warranty". When we got the 4 runner he didn't even offer the extended warranty stating " you won't need it". Lol I wasn't going to buy anyway.
@NPC-kv7tn
@NPC-kv7tn 3 жыл бұрын
"I know people with 100,000s of miles on them no issue" - I'm calling BS.
@danielcheng771
@danielcheng771 3 жыл бұрын
Probably on their second or third engine/transmission by then too haha
@charlesharrell3643
@charlesharrell3643 3 жыл бұрын
Just think how long the dealer printout will be if that things still running at 50,000 miles.
@Qwertyuiop-wg5xu
@Qwertyuiop-wg5xu 3 жыл бұрын
the way it is going it is not getting 50000 miles
@justinfowler2857
@justinfowler2857 3 жыл бұрын
Not long at all. Actually I'm a time traveler and went to the future to check. At 49,999 miles the dealer note showed it sold for scrap!
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 жыл бұрын
the Apollo mission ran into problems as well. You want a fun gadget, be ready for hiccups.
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
The cameras broke in the first week... Imagine the odds of them working at 120k miles. lol.. Not a chance
@LAsHoGuY
@LAsHoGuY 3 жыл бұрын
So basically guys, More miles was put on the new defender, going back and fourth to the dealership and mileage was added from the service department testing it... AMAZING
@autonewstv86
@autonewstv86 3 жыл бұрын
This is why we haven’t purchased a Range Rover. Love how they look however can’t pay that kind of money and deal with issues over and over.
@Tsalinger
@Tsalinger 3 жыл бұрын
To many layers of electronics for a good offroad vehicle. The question is what will happen after 100,000 miles? Turbo 4 and that weight POS comes to mind.
@nicholasbabeaux2052
@nicholasbabeaux2052 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly though new cars often have little issues especially from a brand new model, even a new Camry, thankfully Jaguar Land Rovers have a five-year 60,000 mile warranty with 4 year free maintenance and then the extended warranty is highly recommended LOL
@swagger0im0lachskost
@swagger0im0lachskost 3 жыл бұрын
It's not as bad as it seems. but landrover isn't the best when it comes to software. That's why when I pick up mine from service I just go through the menu for 3 minutes and check if everything is working
@alcenofolchini6971
@alcenofolchini6971 3 жыл бұрын
And they leak oil also
@WhyWouldYouDrawThat
@WhyWouldYouDrawThat 3 жыл бұрын
@Denes Szerdahelyi Not disagreeing with you. But I have to say, Isuzu is an up-and-comer in this area.
@justinhamrick384
@justinhamrick384 3 жыл бұрын
You should have bought two of them. One to drive, and one for spare parts.
@garage779
@garage779 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, why do you want two vehicles in the shop? You need one JLR to own and one Land Cruiser to drive.
@kevinmorley6300
@kevinmorley6300 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover software update : Disconnect the ground on the battery, count to 60 , hook-up the ground, software update complete.. then they used it for a shop vehicle to go get coffee and pizza for the boys in the garage , for 36 miles. Ok , it’s a brand new vehicle, why wasn’t the software update done when you drove it off the lot .?
@eto2352
@eto2352 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover electrical problems, who would have guessed?
@dp1643
@dp1643 3 жыл бұрын
First rule of buying a Land Rover: Don’t buy a Land Rover. Second rule of buying a Land Rover: Turn around and return the Land Rover. Third rule of buying a Land Rover: After dealership rebuffs your request to return it head straight to your liquor store and keep a bottle of a very good spirit so you can at least have one good experience in your Land Rover. Please feel free to add to the list!!!!
@slideways8022
@slideways8022 3 жыл бұрын
4: go find a challenger tank, and show it what real British engineering can do.
@pcmacp719c1
@pcmacp719c1 3 жыл бұрын
*5TH RULE OF BUYING A LAND ROVER: **_ALWAYS drive in front of a tow truck - so that when you inevitably break down, you won't have to wait for a tow._* *6: **_Keep the Roadside Assistance phone number in your contacts - in case you can't find a tow truck to drive in front of._* 🤣
@yourview1944
@yourview1944 3 жыл бұрын
"Hard reboot" = unplug the battery for 30 mins
@cammoscott
@cammoscott 3 жыл бұрын
This video was all I needed to see. I was seriously considering buying the new Defender. Not anymore.
@Rapido20
@Rapido20 3 жыл бұрын
You though about buying a crappy Land Rover what on earth did you expected from the most unreliable automaker??? Of course it brakes down all the time, didn’t you know anything about cara before getting this???
@qx4n9e1xp
@qx4n9e1xp 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Get a Bronco or Wrangler or Lexus GX 450.
@hartonokurniawan6990
@hartonokurniawan6990 3 жыл бұрын
Get Toyota Land cruiser vx200 u will never regret it
@almac9203
@almac9203 3 жыл бұрын
@@hartonokurniawan6990 yeah but you miss out on the free coffee and donuts at the land Rover dealer.
@pilkjaer
@pilkjaer 3 жыл бұрын
I was exactly in the same situation. No LR for me. It looks good at the show floor but they fall apart as soon as you drive out. Not to mention that now there is even more electronics there. Not to mention that air suspension.
@muhammadibnkilab7026
@muhammadibnkilab7026 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a mistake that Land Rover during the advertising they had a tent roof, what that means is “you will be camping when it breaks down” ⛺️
@tomconner2326
@tomconner2326 3 жыл бұрын
With less than 300 miles, good luck in the future.
@SEVENTEENPOINT1
@SEVENTEENPOINT1 3 жыл бұрын
Long term test vehicle looks bad in the first 300 miles, that is funny.
@edwu8253
@edwu8253 3 жыл бұрын
"Rotate the coils" even FIAT is laughing at that trick 😂
@nlpnt
@nlpnt 3 жыл бұрын
The question of course. as you mentioned at the end, is is this regular JLR customer service or is this "professional automotive KZbinr with almost a million subscribers" customer service?
@tonypacke6954
@tonypacke6954 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't lend him a car though so treated like normal Joe Public.
@djw1091994
@djw1091994 3 жыл бұрын
I've had similar experience with Mazda, bought a new Mazda 3 hatchback last year. Still under warranty and plenty of recalls of warranty work done by the dealership. Last year was the first year of a new gen and had a significant redesign and new tech added. I expected issues like this and dealership did everything JLR did and more, they always offered me a free unlimited loaner whenever I had to drop it off.
@Dwealdric
@Dwealdric 3 жыл бұрын
For god sakes, Land Rover. Get it together. This is embarrassing. The Defender was at the top of my list. To say I'm having second thoughts is an understatement.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
DO NOT BUY...WAIT FOR A BRONCO.
@vippsmillennial6336
@vippsmillennial6336 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, get a used one from the 70s if you're really into it.
@bentullett6068
@bentullett6068 3 жыл бұрын
Get a Toyota Land Cruiser
@Dwealdric
@Dwealdric 3 жыл бұрын
@@vippsmillennial6336 If I wanted an old Defender, I probably wouldn't be considering this one at all. Fact is, as much as I love the old Defenders, I certainly don't want to DD one.
@Dwealdric
@Dwealdric 3 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Bronco is definitely high up on the list, but as an 8 year Wrangler owner, the removable roof and doors thing has lost some of its charm for me. That being said, I will take the occasional minor leak and wind noise over electrical gremlins any day,
@ranjanaluwihare1511
@ranjanaluwihare1511 3 жыл бұрын
The original defender is utilitarian & can be fixed in Africa with basic tools, great build with no hi-tech gimmicks! The saying “ Don’t fix something, that’s not broken!”
@MorningNapalm
@MorningNapalm 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, they can no longer market the old cars, since they don't meet modern emissions standards.
@ranjanaluwihare1511
@ranjanaluwihare1511 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, unfortunately stopped manufacturing the classic 2016. Car manufacturing has gone bonkers!
@MorningNapalm
@MorningNapalm 3 жыл бұрын
Well, our abuse of the environment has simply gone on too long. I wonder why LR didn't just develop a cleaner engine for a car similar to the old Defender though. They changed the target buyer quite a bit. I suspect that there simply aren't that many people who want a car like the old one, no matter how hardcore they may be about it.
@michelt4390
@michelt4390 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the old Serie 1-2-3 and even most of the 90/110 could be fixed with bailing wires, and some basic tools... the new ones, well, not sure you'd want to take it anywhere without cell/towing coverage...
@jh5kl
@jh5kl 3 жыл бұрын
@@MorningNapalm because the 'good old' land rover everyone has a fond memory of, was created by BMW, they only knew how to make what basically were tractors, when it was sold, the new owner never cared for developing the brand has BMW did, and they became a complete status brand
@garage779
@garage779 3 жыл бұрын
You guys only visited the dealer three times during your first week of ownership, that's amazing! JLR is definitely getting more reliable. If you end up putting on more miles than the mechanic, we will know for sure.
@Rapscallion-bo4ro
@Rapscallion-bo4ro 3 жыл бұрын
I hope they like the coffee they serve over there at the dealer. Should probably get on first name basis with the mechanic too.
@markpfeifer1402
@markpfeifer1402 3 жыл бұрын
This is unfolding just as predicted.
@littlestinker9716
@littlestinker9716 3 жыл бұрын
This is why so many people stick with Toyota and Honda, myself included.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'll keep my ford. All the range Rover looks, none of the reliability headaches lol.
@leonardgiordano1714
@leonardgiordano1714 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned three Land Rover‘s and each one of them had a slew of problems. Had to cancel a long time planned trip because of the problems of brand new Rrange rover top-of-the-line. Promised myself I would never again buy Land Rover product.
@NaveenKumar-oj7xh
@NaveenKumar-oj7xh 3 жыл бұрын
It took you THREE of them for you to learn your lesson?
@adeelanwar1.0
@adeelanwar1.0 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a wise decision.
@tmwei396
@tmwei396 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you torture yourself a third time after the first two have failed you?
@eoghanfla6343
@eoghanfla6343 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a discovery 3 for two years now, and it’s a 14 year old car with 150,000 miles. So far my list of faults are: 1) Stuck turbo actuator. Fix cost €0, fixed it with a clothe hanger That’s it. I think the disco 3 was probably their best 4x4
@thelight888
@thelight888 3 жыл бұрын
buy Toyota......Jeep .....whatever.....LR is over....its the Tiger that carries the dumbass...Tiger for Tata Motors.....dumbass is the cheated ones who buy the POS car.......I had two and......never
@skyhawk5469
@skyhawk5469 3 жыл бұрын
There's a saying if you wanna go to the jungle take a Land Rover, but if you wanna come out bring a Toyota Land Cruiser...
@BeaudoinEric
@BeaudoinEric 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to ownership of a late model vehicle. I’m a service advisor at a Honda dealer and there are several recalls for software updates, backup camera replacement, fuel pump replacement, door latch cables, etc. These recalls are all on 2017+ vehicles. As cars have more technology these problems won’t go away.
@Peanutdenver
@Peanutdenver 3 жыл бұрын
@@jtarchie Isn't Tesla recalling over 120K Model X SUVs for faulty steering software right now. I also remember a sudden acceleration issues earlier this year(Model S?)where cars were recalled. But you're right about quality issues concerning fit and finish, Teslas are pretty bad. I still applaud Musk for what he's done with the company and maybe in another 5 or 6 years they'll build a real solid car that operates like what the sticker price commands.
@lance4906
@lance4906 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep: is unreliable, says mechanics Land Rover: I'm about to end this brand's career
@simpleinverso8628
@simpleinverso8628 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully broncos aren't unreliable
@simpleinverso8628
@simpleinverso8628 3 жыл бұрын
@Joseph the turbos are the only thing that worries me... I mean, yes I know ford is reliable: my family bought a used Lincoln navigator, abused it for like 13 years and it still runs! (Now we use it as a work truck) But that was a naturally aspirated v8 so I don't really know how reliable these ford turbocharged engines are... Do you know?
@isaacgarcia114
@isaacgarcia114 3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleinverso8628 the 2.7 holds up.
@danecarpenter8735
@danecarpenter8735 3 жыл бұрын
@@simpleinverso8628 I thrash the crap out of my 2016 Ford Expedition Limited 4x4. Put a set of Bilsteins on it and Raptor Rims and Wheels (35in Tires). Twin catch cans. Sent the Turbos out to have bigger compressor wheels put in. Got a custom tune on it. I go everywhere with that thing. I go mudding, drive on rocks, drive the sand dunes. I drive everywhere with it. That low end torque with long curve is great. And nothing beats that Ford 8.8 for off-road. And I'm a Subaru guy.
@evanmurphy2165
@evanmurphy2165 3 жыл бұрын
Jeep is unreliable. Land Rover says "Hold my beer".
@kaiminchan3835
@kaiminchan3835 3 жыл бұрын
For a car that has 300 miles under its belt, let alone one that tops out at $110k, this is completely and utterly inexcusable.
@afcgeo882
@afcgeo882 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get the video... this is normal with a Land Rover.
@garage779
@garage779 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, without breakdowns and dealer visits, the owners won't have a reason to get together.
@ea1070
@ea1070 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota: HOLD MY 🍺... Land Rover has left the chat room..
@redbed1604
@redbed1604 3 жыл бұрын
The only place that one can depend on a Land Rover is when it's in it's natural environment, on the back of a Tow Truck!
@alexmorris3106
@alexmorris3106 3 жыл бұрын
My ideas exactly, New technology at it's finest,
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmorris3106 Oh stop. Modern cars are factually more reliable than cars from 20-30 years ago. Tech doesn't make cars unreliable, poor engineering execution on the other hand...
@2phoness
@2phoness 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's a land rover they're better used than brand new
@georgebx
@georgebx 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover have so much to answer for rolling out junk after junk. So what if your car never had any issues as there is a massive group of owners that have to resort to legal action to repair or obtain a refund for this sad excuse of a car. Stats dont lie these cars seduce you with good looks and kill with unreliability
@PaulNaylor3
@PaulNaylor3 3 жыл бұрын
“Long-term” usually means many years. “Long-term Land Rover” = 3+ months
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 3 жыл бұрын
Yep they are piles of junk for snobs
@habanero8192
@habanero8192 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy: "We had (2) two used Land Rovers that were dependable ...". LOLz... Well Tommy that's because the previous owners, aka suckers, worked out all of the kinks for you ... how nice of them, right?
@sswwooppee
@sswwooppee 3 жыл бұрын
If it was a horse, you’d shoot it and make glue.
@2157AF
@2157AF 3 жыл бұрын
Nay!
@Tcflohr
@Tcflohr 3 жыл бұрын
Id rather perform a TCM update on the horse
@calholli
@calholli 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tcflohr the "update' is what broke it. Obviously.
@shawn1928
@shawn1928 3 жыл бұрын
@@calholli and update or not, something else is eventually going to break on that thing anyway, because it's a LR
@geekster69
@geekster69 3 жыл бұрын
This has been one of the main reasons why I’ve always hesitated getting a Land Rover/Range Rover. I really appreciate your honest reporting of your experiences.
@Alyosha00
@Alyosha00 3 жыл бұрын
This is what you get when you buy a brand-new Land Rover: a reality show.
@AS-hm4tp
@AS-hm4tp 3 жыл бұрын
I talked to my local dealership in Canada mid November 2020. This review from TFL has crushed the demand for the Defenders single handedly. TFL truck has millions of subscriber and one of the best in business as reviewers. The JLR corporate should have stepped up way before things got out if their hands. Just sad. RIP
@microchip470
@microchip470 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover giving you guys an Uber driver shows that even Land Rover doesn’t trust their vehicles to be used as courtesy vehicles.
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
After losing $4.4 billion last year and $534 million last quarter, I'm surprised they didn't just give him a bus ticket home.
@1thehandyvan
@1thehandyvan 3 жыл бұрын
In Australia they say if you want to go to the out back take a Land Rover BUT if you want to go home again take a Toyota Land Cruiser
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@1thehandyvan That is pretty funny. Here they say that 90% of the Land Rovers are still on the road. The rest of them made it home.
@3rdGUMObro
@3rdGUMObro 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, no loaner??
@redbaron6805
@redbaron6805 3 жыл бұрын
@@3rdGUMObro I guess they don't want to have the loaner break down and then give you yet another loaner... and so on....
@325xitgrocgetter
@325xitgrocgetter 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always surprised that when a car is sold, the latest software updates are not installed. This happened to my parents with a new Subaru Outback...the car had issues with a "bog" when starting from a stop....dealer said, oh this doesn't have the latest software updates...which did address this issue..but apparently had to be discovered by the customer.
@Minimalist1266
@Minimalist1266 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Don't think this speaks for the dealership, does it?
@justinfowler2857
@justinfowler2857 3 жыл бұрын
There was no software update. They just cleared to codes and drove it for a while and since the check engine light didn't come back on the problem was "solved."
@gardnerwebbuniversitygwu9955
@gardnerwebbuniversitygwu9955 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinfowler2857 yes there are updates, I have a 2011 honda crz and it was jerking when leaving a stop, no engine light or anything, they said it needed a firmware update, after that problem solved, crazy how a customer has to find out this stuff..
@earthstick
@earthstick 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised really. The approach the software industry has taken recently is called agile. The mantra is don't design just react quickly to requirements and do frequent deliveries of small incremental updates with new features and fault fixes. It's likely that the versions installed in the vehicle when it left the factory had already been superseded or were shortly after. I think it is an approach that leads to low quality software.
@squeakD
@squeakD 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of software updates come out after the dealer receives the vehicles. Often the problem is they don’t update their inventory on the lot, and don’t update it when the vehicle is purchased either. They unfortunately pass that off to the customer post purchase.
@macbokgeek
@macbokgeek 3 жыл бұрын
First mistake made: buying a Land Rover/Range Rover product. My dad had a rr autobiography and engine blew within 10,000 miles of being new
@donsolaris8477
@donsolaris8477 3 жыл бұрын
So, not so much an autobiography as an obituary!
@chasingframes
@chasingframes 3 жыл бұрын
My 99 disco 2 has nearly 400k on it stiil running and still goes hard offroad
@p_enta5012
@p_enta5012 3 жыл бұрын
My neighbor had a 19’ extended wheelbase autobiography, (pretty sure it was the V8 but I’m not sure), after 13 months it exploded.
@alcenofolchini6971
@alcenofolchini6971 3 жыл бұрын
I buy American, Japanese and German cars, my first car was a Fiat and was a nightmare.
@peterbaxter8895
@peterbaxter8895 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my fiat was a shocker as well, from my personal experience it doesn’t really matter which manufacturer you go for if your car was made by Terry on a Wednesday your screwed, just an opinion before people start getting angry about a random comment on the net
@ryanguercio7061
@ryanguercio7061 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if you guys saw/read the article. I realize it’s a 6 cyl with different options but electrical and other gremlins like on your car could easily be model wide. I bet Corona is to blame so if it were me I would be handling it like you guys are. Being truthful not trashing. That’s what I love most about this channel. I sold cars for 12 plus years with the most time at BMW for 7. Just being truthful and honest with customers is why I sold any of the cars I did. My son and I can’t wait for more Defender content as he loves the defender and it helped me to show him the love for cars all of us enthusiasts have. I have a buddy in Land Rover sales and he is going to let us drive one and my son doesn’t know. Great work!
@davis0044
@davis0044 3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, don’t buy a land rover. As cool as they are, they continue to struggle making vehicles....
@CarThings___
@CarThings___ 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t buy a “new” Land Rover, the LR3 was a tank
@nucl3arfamily906
@nucl3arfamily906 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up stupid...
@thehayman7352
@thehayman7352 3 жыл бұрын
They are cool? If you say so
@CarThings___
@CarThings___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@thehayman7352 says the Toyota driver
@thehayman7352
@thehayman7352 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarThings___ Toyota’s are hype beasts land rovers are for your grandparents 😪
@oldschool1928
@oldschool1928 3 жыл бұрын
My British friends admit Land Rover is a poorly made auto brand and don't know why people still buy them.
@clivefutube
@clivefutube 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the old grass is greener on the other side of the fence ideology. I think the Uk sees the same thing with mustangs now.
@codydiek7981
@codydiek7981 3 жыл бұрын
Not really relevant he is British as the new Defender is made in Slovakia!
@clivefutube
@clivefutube 3 жыл бұрын
Still very much advertised as English here in California though.
@azzogathor
@azzogathor 3 жыл бұрын
@@codydiek7981 Yep, as opposed to the pillars of reliability that were the "british" LR3 and LR4, this new Defender certainly suffers from being made in Slovakia. Truth is, people really wanted LR to actually turn a corner with this new "Defovery" and, as LR does reliably, it did not. Same old garbage.
@azzogathor
@azzogathor 3 жыл бұрын
@Jose Alberto Rosa-Suliveres imho, a well designed/ engineered car can be built virtually anywhere.
@MultiPurposeReviewer
@MultiPurposeReviewer 3 жыл бұрын
So like 4 different issue in less than a week of ownership. Way to build a car, Land Rover.
@ChuddleBuggy
@ChuddleBuggy 3 жыл бұрын
Love scrolling down through the comments for a good laugh...
@mostafa2007109able
@mostafa2007109able 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is not with defender, the problem is you bought a defender!!
@larrycalloway1724
@larrycalloway1724 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@yruhatin100
@yruhatin100 3 жыл бұрын
This is the smartest reply I've read all week.
@mostafa2007109able
@mostafa2007109able 3 жыл бұрын
@@yruhatin100 thank you for your comment. And just to make this clear. I'm not trying to bash the defender in anyway. That's just European cars in general! They tend to have problems.
@cpear760
@cpear760 3 жыл бұрын
Still in that break-in period, er, break down period I guess it is now.
@sierravortec2494
@sierravortec2494 3 жыл бұрын
I love how in 2020, not having a back up camera is a safety issue. How ever did we survive without them? It was utter anarchy! Love the channel guys!
@jonsmith1259
@jonsmith1259 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad is 91. How did he live so long, when cars in his day came with 1 brake light, (2nd brake light was an option) no turn signals, or seat belts, and only 1 side view mirror?
@tetchuma
@tetchuma 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s safe to say, you guys are getting better service than a regular consumer would get from JLR.
@montylikesbeer
@montylikesbeer 3 жыл бұрын
Guys reflecting you like the car, regretfully you are going to be on a rocky ride ( no pun intended) As a Brit we are proud of this iconic brand, however I would not trust them to make a Yorkshire Pudding. The best of luck to you
@raymondbuniak6887
@raymondbuniak6887 3 жыл бұрын
The name of the car is wrong. It is not a "Defender". It is an "Offender".
@symple19
@symple19 3 жыл бұрын
It is. They should have named it the "Element." Although that would be an insult to Honda
@nagaraworkshop
@nagaraworkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Pretender...
@sreejeshellath
@sreejeshellath 3 жыл бұрын
well said. i owned an old one and i still offended, so very suitable name, all the owner must be offended in very short term == offender.
@sakhalin800
@sakhalin800 3 жыл бұрын
Land Rover "Disappointment"
@larrycalloway1724
@larrycalloway1724 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@raldogtm
@raldogtm 3 жыл бұрын
Average Joe wouldn’t get that kind of service
@djw1091994
@djw1091994 3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, it depends on the dealership and manufacturer. I bought a new Mazda 3 last year, first year of a new gen with a significant redesign and a lot more electronics. Its had multiple recalls and even was repainted by dealership after I pointed out rockchips 3 weeks into owning the vehicle. I am just an average Joe, all the work done so far (including a respray of the whole front end) but not including routine maintenance was covered by Mazda Japan and a free loaner was always offered as an option. Even when the respray took a month and I was out of town on vacation for 2 weeks during that time with the loaner sitting at home. The dealership didn't charge me for holding onto their loaner for 2 weeks after the car was fixed since I was out of town and it was out of my control. First year of a new gen is ALWAYS prone to issues. My car has had about 6 software updates in over a year. All this to say, problems are to be expected with first years of new gens and your dealership experience may vary but I have had a good experience with multiple Mazda dealerships and am still glad I bought my car.
@besomewheredosomething
@besomewheredosomething 3 жыл бұрын
It's not generally the average Joe buying Land Rover products.
@mikek2416
@mikek2416 3 жыл бұрын
Slow turnaround and no loaner?
@bonvaicu
@bonvaicu 3 жыл бұрын
@@djw1091994 I have 2019 Mazda CX-5 Diesel, no issues whatsoever
@djw1091994
@djw1091994 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonvaicu awesome! Yeah according to forums a lot of us 2019 3 owners experienced were fixed by 2020 and there are almost no recalls. I'm confident most of it is ironed out and the remaining work will be honoured under warranty or additional TSBs/Recalls. Also glad to have their new Connected Services for free for 3 years.
@XerxezsX
@XerxezsX 3 жыл бұрын
The dealer tested it out for 36 miles, from Friday till Tuesday, 😂 sounds like they used it as a weekend personal vehicle 😂
@mboiko
@mboiko 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, you never really received an answer as to exactly..why did the engine check light come on? Now all of a sudden you have a camera module go bad with just 300+ miles on the vehicle?? Imagine if you were just a normal owner...and NOT TFL. Obviously very little quality control at Land Rover these days...
@cococly
@cococly 3 жыл бұрын
The answer is simple, "it is the first batch production of a brand new product from manufacturer who isn't known for its reliable products"
@mboiko
@mboiko 3 жыл бұрын
@@cococly That about sums it up...
@movingforwardwithahad317
@movingforwardwithahad317 3 жыл бұрын
I’m no expert but these systems don’t seem like they are first for the brand(360 camera or turbo charging). The typical issues with the air suspension system would be the prime suspect for the first of many other tech related concerns. Shame with so many years of the same systems, issues are still present. “Brand name” is such a social THING...it’s not even funny. In my opinion it’s God’s way of taking $ from those who made it too easy...anyone who worked hard for their money would prioritize social status differently(I’d hope).
@mboiko
@mboiko 3 жыл бұрын
@@movingforwardwithahad317 It's just a combination of a new model and a lack of quality control.
@mrg-ghx8052
@mrg-ghx8052 3 жыл бұрын
Also these were put together in Slovakia in a new factory with new staff. Not UK built.
@izyj.8679
@izyj.8679 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a documentary about true Land Rover ownership.
@GottTS
@GottTS 3 жыл бұрын
It's a Land Rover thing - you wouldn't understand :-D ...
@kaox44
@kaox44 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, I use to be very objective to your channel...but I'm very impressed that you guys are showing actual issues and not try to hide it like other car "experts" channel.
@JCintheBCC
@JCintheBCC 3 жыл бұрын
"You will love a Land Rover. You will trust a Toyota." I'll just keep saying it.
@FD-rh6tr
@FD-rh6tr 3 жыл бұрын
A real truck enthusiast will love the Toyota more than the Land Rover.
@reviewerbibhuti5100
@reviewerbibhuti5100 3 жыл бұрын
Rich ppl wants Supercomputer
@duanvogel3684
@duanvogel3684 3 жыл бұрын
Landrover had year’s of development time to perfect this vehicle. How is it possible that LR launched a overland off-roader that’s suppose to take you to the most remote part of Earth with underline technical issues.? I love your reporting TFL!!
@almac9203
@almac9203 3 жыл бұрын
They said they would take you to the ends of the Earth but they never said they would take you back home!
@zunaidkajee4540
@zunaidkajee4540 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I came across your video. I want to thank you for potentially saving me hundreds of thousands (rands) in the "near" future. I was supposed to take delivery of my vehicle today, but called them and canceled. the beauty of you tube.
@dixinormous8539
@dixinormous8539 3 жыл бұрын
In Australia we have an old saying, "if you want to go bush take a Land Rover, if you want to come back take a Land Cruiser"
@Clavinovaman
@Clavinovaman 3 жыл бұрын
Why? Toyotas are not especially reliable. One of the latest dependability study, suggests Toyota (as a brand) suffers 136 faults per 100 cars (2019) with Land Rover at a (not much worse) 142.
@dixinormous8539
@dixinormous8539 3 жыл бұрын
@@Clavinovaman not sure i agree, i mean look at the UN, and all the less agreeable factions in Africa and the middle east, they all drive the Landcruiser, my experience with the 80 series Landcruiser compared to my Landrover Vogue means i would pick the Toyota every time
@Clavinovaman
@Clavinovaman 3 жыл бұрын
@@dixinormous8539 Well. that was based on 400,000 cars. Its not a question of agreeing or not as those are faults recorded. And this study is different to many of the myriad surveys that assess opinion. This is the faults recorded. Interestingly, the previous years study, shows Toyota with 109 faults per 100 cars, with Land Rover at 169. Toyota's in the last 18 months have shown a notable increase in recorded faults. Look forward to the 2020 study at the end of the year and my instinct is that Toyota will record a similar fault record to 2019. But. many congratulations that yours is fault free.
@helitack32f15
@helitack32f15 3 жыл бұрын
I just have to share my one Land Rover story. I am on a helicopter fire crew in California and I work 12 days on and 2 days off. On my 2 days off my relief driver brought me a rental Land Rover Discovery. He was given this vehicle because it was all that was left on the lot. Now, I am well aware of the reputation of Land Rover vehicles but I thought "How bad could they be?" . Even just driving away the first time, it didn't run right. It had an odd hesitation among other weird idiosyncrasies. The next day I had to make a drive to San Bernardino for an appointment. On the way back home, on the freeway, the vehicle started slowing down. It was only doing 45 miles an hour when I finally made it off the freeway and to a gas station. I filed it with premium to see if the cheaper gas had been the problem. I was now able to keep up with traffic for some reason but the engine would have a loud knock occasionally that would go away if I shifted manually rather than having it in automatic. Then, I decided to drive out to another place on the way home when, 4 miles from the nearest gas station all hell broke loose on the dashboard with red lights flashing and messages saying I was critically low on oil and the vehicle lost power. I had checked the oil when I filled it, it was full. The POS finally shut down and I coasted off the road in the middle of the desert. Multiple calls to the "Enterprising" road side assistance were made, assuring me that tow trucks were on the way. 4 hours later I finally called an Uber and left that pile of garbage on the side of the road with the keys in it. That was 8:00 in the evening. A tow truck did not arrive at the vehicle until 10:00 am the next morning, despite how many times I had been told a tow truck was on the way. . In the end we were told by the rental company the Discovery had suffered an issue with the keys?! NEVER AGAIN! Avoid Land Rovers like the plague and NEVER trust a rental car company's roadside assistance.
@tpv59
@tpv59 3 жыл бұрын
So, .... not a fan of LR ???
@Derek8487
@Derek8487 3 жыл бұрын
Not what I would want to deal with after working 12 days in a row
@theGreyhoundKeeper
@theGreyhoundKeeper 3 жыл бұрын
I've had my 110 for 25 years, it is 36 years old. Since I have had it, it has only been towed twice. a dwell adjuster failed on one occasion and the fuel pump died on another. It is the most reliable car I have ever owned. Can't say the same for my wife's 2004 disco 2 (LR2 to you yanks).
@DH-sm7sw
@DH-sm7sw 3 жыл бұрын
Mine: - persistent low battery warning - back to LR three times and still not fixed; car with LR now - centre screen intermittently not coming on - software update - noise from around A pillar - door mirror not fitted properly - forward collision warning not working - back to LR twice and still not fixed - media USB cutting out - defective socket replaced - locking wheel nut adapter missing - new one (would have been totally screwed if I'd had a puncture - apparently they can't tell which of the 16 or so adapters fits a particular vehicle without physically trying them - cameras intermittently not working - car now with LR - squeeks from driver's door over even small road defects - door rubbing against its seal; silicone lubricant fixed it but surely the body should not flex so much so easily
@mike-bv2jc
@mike-bv2jc 3 жыл бұрын
As things go, until new year you will write a full novel
@JudokaEric
@JudokaEric 3 жыл бұрын
Might not want to take it off road...
@alball4628
@alball4628 3 жыл бұрын
@@JudokaEric not to mention the actual examples, when, in this piece of sh.t the brakes literally failed, when climbing up the hill and the guy was lucky to survive falling back..
@ferp420
@ferp420 3 жыл бұрын
Lemon law send it back if you have to fix the same thing 3 times its a lemon they have to take it back and refund the purchased price
@Rapido20
@Rapido20 3 жыл бұрын
You bought a crappy Land Rover what on earth did you expected from the most unreliable automaker??? Of course it brakes down all the time, didn’t you know anything about cara before getting this???
@joker432
@joker432 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Range/Land Rover is still in business honestly, hands down some of the most poorly made vehicles ever.
@blobtv7444
@blobtv7444 3 жыл бұрын
its a very expensive badge people just keep on buying
@AKJeeper
@AKJeeper 3 жыл бұрын
It took me 3 Land Rovers before I swore them off. My first one was relatively reliable, I fell in love with the brand with that one. The next 2 were the biggest headaches. It became a game of, "What's going to break this month?"
@firstnamelastname-zo5gd
@firstnamelastname-zo5gd 3 жыл бұрын
status/design. otherwise toyota would rule the world. personally i like how land cruisers look though defenders arent in that price range.
@buckshot6481
@buckshot6481 3 жыл бұрын
Status symbols, that's all, even a Jeep Grand Cherokee is a better SUV mine never broke and my buddy is on his third.
@sean-pl3us
@sean-pl3us 3 жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname-zo5gd Toyota became extremely clever recently. They know that they have the reputation for long-lasting quality, so they use that as an advantage and build less lasting cars recently.
@jpayan1694
@jpayan1694 3 жыл бұрын
Im a tech for Land Rover and this is very typical. lots of defenders in the shop right now
@35RSkyline
@35RSkyline 3 жыл бұрын
Ummmm. Maybe not a Good thing lol
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