Lucid Gravity Charging Performance! 400kW, Tesla Supercharging & Deep Dive Interview w/ Emad & Peter

Join Kyle, VP of Powertrain Emad Dlala and CEO Peter Rawlinson for an in-depth discussion about the crazy fast charging capabilities of the Lucid Gravity, which achieves 400 kW fast charging, seamless Tesla Supercharger integration, as much as 225kW at relatively low 400V chargers without splitting the pack, and the highest cell energy efficiency with it's 926V architecture. From its real world advantages in charging and range, efficiencies in production and cost, and with help from a new advanced battery chemistry developed with Panasonic, let's see how the engineering driven culture at Lucid helped shape this SUV.
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[@brandenflasch]

Charge curve graph please

[@junehanzawa5165]

That's the issue with Lucid. They're all talk, talk, talk, and no show. They said the Lucid Air had the best charging in the business, but then the 2025 Taycan and the Chevy/GM trucks are released and blow it out of the water with their much, much better curves.

[@Kee_Didnt]

@@junehanzawa5165 I mean they kinda showed, just not as much as Porsche haha. Hoping that these videos and general discussions have influenced how they develop Gravity. The 10% challenge is super important.

[@anthonyc8499]

Don’t you have visibility to Gravity doing test sessions on HYC 400s?

[@junehanzawa5165]

@@Kee_Didnt Who showed and at which point? Where in this video do we get to see the curve. Did I miss that? "They" can't be the ones showing the video. Anyone can control what's "shown" on a video. Allow an independant person to record and show the video. It's not like it's not going to get out before they sell a ton of these. What's the point of hiding things at this point. It paints them as "sneaky" in the eyes of the public, and further erodes trust. Let a reputable person from the EV community do it, and if something needs to be fixed, they'll tell you so you can adjust/fix it.

[@USNEM]

Wtf are you talking about........ Lmfao ​@@junehanzawa5165

[@klantic2]

The fact that these gentlemen understand and listen is really impressive. Nice to see Peter "jump in" and excited to see Kyle.

[@johnlabernik4599]

They’re saying everything we want to hear. Hopefully they deliver.

[@aalthukair]

PETER IS THE BEST EV CEO

[@td4940]

Along with RJ Scaringe, they give good tech talk for a CEO, better than that other guy.

[@ervin9805]

wrong. elon musk is

[@imasharksfan1149]

@@ervin9805I thought all you Tesla fan boys hated him now and want to turn your fan boy cards in? Did I get bad info?

[@Ctnbl]

If being likable was the most important trait of a CEO, Tesla wouldn’t be here. Maybe let them make 20 bucks before you call him the best 😂

[@davidfrankel9267]

Umm. Lucid is the Arab's entry into the space. It does not reflect a cost conscious, responsible CEO. Without the Arab money, it would be another Fisker. It's hard to come up with a CEO that takes such a huge chunk of money on a company that bleeds money. Love the car but not the CEO.

[@tonepilot]

I’m learning so much from these podcasts

[@WTFRUTalkingBoutdude]

I'm so impressed with what Lucid is doing!! I see this stock going to $100 by 2026!! It's time to buy.....

[@Deleted800]

Hopefully but most likely not maybe 2030 or 2028

[@imasharksfan1149]

@@WTFRUTalkingBoutdude It will all depend on how the Gravity does and whether they stay on target for the more affordable models they’ve promised in 2026.

[@galactictomato1434]

Very promising. Can't wait for a deep dive review.

[@ShaneLindblom]

Thank you Kyle, Emad, and Peter for this! Incredibly exciting. 🎉❤

[@loums52]

Great interview. Love Lucid and the whole team excitement.

[@mattc6854]

Very excited! Go Lucid! My Air Pure lease is up in 1.5 years so I’d love to get the next Air with this pack.

[@UP-To-The-Time]

Kyle has got to be the hardest working guy in this game.

[@newscoulomb3705]

I'm glad he brought up the real factors governing battery charging speeds, including electrode thickness. It would have been nice to hear him speak more about balancing energy density and power density, but I'm glad that the trade offs of cylindrical cells are actually being discussed. For the longest time, it was just a received opinion in the EV industry that cylindrical cells were objectively superior.

[@urbanstrencan]

Great podcast and interview, can't wait to see how Lucid actually charges in the real world.

[@JustAnotherInc]

Fantastic video, loved all the nerdy details! But KYLE, KYLE, KYLE (ref. MOM, MOM, MOM), PLEASE advice the Lucid crew to NOT put the charging port on the Gravity in the front for the Euro market. Why would they do that? Lucid in Norway told me the Gravity won´t arrive until Q1´26, so hopefully by then they have reconsidered and put the charging port where it belongs, like on all Teslas. I’ll be switching from a Model X to a Gravity, and hope they will reconsider! (90% because of the superior engineering, and 10% because they have a rational, sane and excellent CEO.)

[@70lilthumpert]

Very good nerd stuff. Great video Kyle.

[@HoundStuff]

Nice work on this OOS team! Would be great to see more future videos with the leaders and engineers of these various companies. Always nice to hear from them.

[@suzakukururugi6613]

Yay, exciting, i almost bought the v2 air but had some issues with brake clicking, motor noise, and some lacking standard tech features (without having to add a bunch in cost). Would love to have a gravity if I could afford it

[@satyakorrapati]

Hi Kyle You should compare 2 vehicles Lucid Gravity and Revian R1S charging. When the Gravity come outs . 😊that would be grate content.

[@satyakorrapati]

Hi Kyle You should compare 2 vehicles Lucid Gravity and Revian R1S charging. When the R1S comes outs . 😊

[@tedl2711]

Do we know yet if their heater is a heat pump or not yet?

[@RoninHard]

Here are some excerpts from Lucid press release: January 28, 2025 Press Release "allow the 926V Lucid Gravity to charge seamlessly at up to 400 kW on 1000V charging equipment and at sustained speeds of up to 225 kW on 500V architecture fast chargers, including Tesla V3 Superchargers.” "CCS1 to NACS and SAE J1772 to NACS adapters are also included with the Lucid Gravity, and the CCS1 adapter is the first rated to charge at 500A with 1000V. The adapter enables charging at up to 400 kW through the standard NACS connector in Gravity with a CCS1 connector at a fast charger." "Lucid Gravity is capable of bi-directional charging, supporting up to 80 A at 19.2 kW with the NACS charge port

[@davidbaker9943]

Been looking forward to this video! Amazing video like everyone want to see the charging curve and then want validation

[@EhabAboud]

Emad sounds like an absolutely awesome dude

[@berthogendoorn2133]

This is exciting news, about the only issue I felt that needed to be improved, really look forward to Gravity on Tesla version 3 superchargers as we in Canada are still lacking with reliable fast DC charger access, especially on long road trips. Gravity may be the Cat's meow for all purpose SUV!

[@fiehlsport]

So we need a Gravity at an IONNA station, ASAP.

[@marcusrose5943]

Or Mercedes charger

[@alldecentnamestaken]

Kind of a wish list for future Gravity versions: 1. go with a regular metal roof instead of all glass (this would be preferred in a hot state tbh) 2. LFP battery pack good for ~350 miles but still capable of charging fast. That's it... that's all I could think of.

[@MayurBirari]

I believe there is no metal roof option.

[@DobeGuy83]

Kyle! Let go of your sleeves. Great videos! I watch them all and subscribe! Keep up the great work

[@markreaume9417]

Gravity has a NACS plug. wondering if it will be able to charge at EVERY supercharger? as some show Tesla vehicles only on the map. Also any info on if it could charge at a CCS with the adapter that Tesla sold to its owner that wanted/needed to charge at CCS ?

[@Ash-db9cb]

Gravity on my to get list

[@samikamal1]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO LUCID GRAVITY SUV OF THE YEAR 2025 2026 2027 2028 2029 2030 🏆🏁🥳🥳🥳🥳🎆🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇🙌💎💎💎💎🫡💯😃👏👏👏🥂🍾

[@1968jmnlgn]

Como estaba esperando el Gravity por Dios.....vamos el 70mph test ya.

[@rodlewis276]

Faster charging will move the competitors to follow. It is needed. Feels like no improvements in 5 years. Can’t wait to see it in the real world.

[@Storm3451]

Why didn't Tesla put that new Panasonic 21700 cell into the the 3/Y refresh? would mean 90kWh in the same pack ....

[@marksaunderssr.2294]

Great video. Loved Emad's comment about how the charging capabilities of Air were designed without consideration for possible access to Tesla chargers. At the 44 minute mark Kyle states he's played around with a Gravity more recently. That sounds like he's had a chance to test the software since the earlier OoS Review on the Gravity. He says it has seemingly great software. No software concerns? I know a Hogback test will come later, but software overall is good?

[@MayurBirari]

He saw it in Vegas during CES

[@marksaunderssr.2294]

That's good to know, but that was not my question.

[@Derpy1969]

Charging sounds great. Now sell some and become profitable.

[@ZachGrabill]

Were you guys invited to the Wagoneer event?

[@InternetDude]

Highly unlikely based on their Challenger EV review

[@ZachGrabill]

@@InternetDude LOL. Yep.

[@sid432]

Kyle - what’s your estimate on Touring trim with 16 mods ? Charging, voltage end EPA range ?

[@Stan0619]

How’s Lucid’s software compared to the competition?

[@gchetail]

Now Lucid needs to focus on creating a R2 sized vehicle, so "normal"people can experience Lucid and all that engineering.

[@franciscobuenrostro1019]

“We like a good curve” 👀😂

[@satyakorrapati]

Grate contains ❤😊🎉

[@trinityflow]

Mid-Size SUV is coming as well from Lucid. Did not seem to talk too much on this?

[@barryw9473]

500 amps @ 800 V?

[@newscoulomb3705]

If you do do (heh) a parallel 10% Challenge with the Gravity and Escalade IQ, just be sure to use 400 kW chargers because the current 350 kW chargers are a bottleneck for the 200 kWh Ultium packs.

[@tazeat]

I like how Kyle just drops in to these when he wants and shoves the main podcast host aside with no real mention of it

[@rickmcdonald7075]

The podcast has always been a team effort.

[@newscoulomb3705]

I mean, the technical details are fine, but it means very little to the customer. The consumer experience is almost entirely dictated by the average charging power, and that's an area where Lucid has struggled. They can throw shade at split-packs like Ultium all they want, but right now, the 200 kWh Ultium's average charging power to 80% is nearly double Lucid's current packs. From a customer perspective, that means a "40% Challenge" is just as valid and important as a "10% Challenge."

[@blakespringpasturemortimer9168]

When a vehicle needs a 200-kWh pack to give reasonable range, it really had better have fast charging capability.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 If by "reasonable range" you mean "best in class range," sure, but my point was that average charging speed matters much more to consumers than peak charging speeds. Lucid also doesn't offer a fullsize truck, so the discussion of relative efficiencies is moot anyway.

[@blakespringpasturemortimer9168]

@ I'm thinking about the Escalade IQ which weighs over 9,000 pounds and has less passenger room than a Lucid Gravity.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@blakespringpasturemortimer9168 It has slightly more room than the Gravity (about 10 cu/ft more), but it is not as well laid out. So yes, kudos to Lucid for their packaging, but we're also comparing a fullsize crossover (the Gravity) to a fullsize SUV (th Escalade IQ). The Escalade IQ has more ground clearance, better payload capacity, and more towing capacity. Also, GM is notoriously stingy on their EPA range estimates, so I have no doubt that in real-world testing, the Escalade IQ will go much farther than the Gravity. Edmunds recently tested the GMC Sierra EV, and it is now the longest range EV they've ever tested, including the Lucid family. So that battery pack allows a fullsize truck to travel farther on a charge than a low-roof, hyper efficient sedan.

[@blakespringpasturemortimer9168]

@ Then you should watch the videos with the reactions of Kyle Conner (Out of Spec Motoring), Jason Cammisa (Hagerty's), and others after trying out all three of the Gravity's seats. Conner did a lengthy direct comparison of the seating in both the Escalade and the Gravity and found the Gravity layout considerably better (not to mention quieter). I have sat in the Gravity prototype at the Miami Worldcenter, and its space utilization is remarkable. Roomier even than the Honda Odyssey it will replace once our order is fulfilled. The Escalade is absolutely gargantuan and still can barely hold its own in terms of passenger space against the Gravity. A four-and-a-half ton behemoth that needs a 200-kWh battery pack to match the range of a Lucid (and with less acceleration and handling) but with considerably less more passenger space? Jeez. As for the Escalade's real-world efficiency, check out the Out of Spec test drive:

[@tr0nd15c]

Grand Touring + purchasing my dream car in 2025 = #LucidMotors FTW. #TeslaSucks #CompromiseNothing #ZeroDragCoefficient #BehindTheDesign #AutomotiveInnovation #RallyAgainstRangeAnxiety #Sapphire #BreathtakingBrilliance #Jawohl #Wunderbox #SeatMassage #SimplisticElegance #ElectricEfficiency #ZenithMetallicRed #FathomBlue #RJScarCringe #EveryMillimeterCounts #PeterRawlinson

[@BradfordSparks]

Kyle needs to buy a new sweatshirt as the elastic on the arms of this one are worn out.

[@CraigMatsuura]

The real world is what's in the ground if all that is available for most of the country is 350kw you should do a 10% challenge with what is common today. You can always do one when you have access to 400kw. This would not be helpful for the consumer only showing them something they don't have access too. At least Lucid had the foresight and moved quickly on nacs and supporting the highest charging rate possible on SC.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

I dont really care for 400kw charging at all. Much rather have 300kw over a longer SOC state. That means i can pull in between a wider range of SOC and still expect consistent charging

[@kennethgordon9837]

Will the 2026 lucid air eventually have the Tesla charge port like the Gravity does? That is the one thing holding me back from buying one now.

[@911_dan2]

Shouldn't be a deal breaker imo. Works with an adapter, and ccs charges MUCH faster

[@kennethgordon9837]

@ Some of the more remote areas I explore in the west have very few if any chargers, let alone Tesla. Even though the range is super I don’t want to have to give a second thought to hunt for other reliable chargers that may not work. And It will probably take at least another year before V4 is readily available. Guess I’ve been spoiled by the reliability of Tesla admittedly.

[@RedvinezYGO]

⁠@@911_dan2presumably Lucid will change their low voltage charging capability when the car is native NACS

[@imasharksfan1149]

@@911_dan2Agree. It wasn’t a deal breaker for me. The incentives in December on the 2025’s were too good to pass up. I have no problem using an adapter once access is obtained.

[@RobK-x3x]

Can't wait to see Lucid's Q4'24 Financial results. I'm hoping they lost less than $341,603 per vehicle delivered, which was their Q3'24 result.

[@InternetDude]

Yeowch

[@imasharksfan1149]

Me too. But they are spending heavily on R&D right now and so I wouldn’t be surprised.

[@Golf_Cart_Customization]

Little editing mistake at 50:00

[@WhiteWi]

Sucks that it cost 100k. They wont sell much at that price.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Peak charging power is irrelevant. The major challenge is holding high power for a long time, at least to 80%. Show us how long it takes to add 200 or 300 miles. Kyle’s 10% challenge is very telling. I want to see Gravity beat Porsche.

[@relaxingtravel-LosAngeles]

lease rates please.. c'mon Peter. $1200 a month

[@AbJsm]

If Lucid customers can have access to Tesla FSD that will be absolutely INSANE!

[@anton_grahn]

What happened to the intro/outro lol

[@RoninHard]

Yeah, someone was in too big of a hurry to post the video and failed to properly edit/splice those sections.

[@marcusrose5943]

So nacs is a downgrade 😂 until they update the stations which will be years

[@mcsike7264]

V4 can now charge at 500kw

[@BBingo-v5i]

​@@mcsike7264not "now". They will take years to deploy enough of the new charging cabinets to make it a usable 800V network

[@gelu88]

Just use the adapter and don't worry about tesla.

[@777Outrigger]

The charging stops in my Model Y are already 12-25 minutes, barely enough time to have a bathroom break, get a drink, and walk the dog in most cases. This charging is not compelling to me. Just give me reliable charging that's near the highway. That's what I want. ...Lucid would do better to find a path to profitability than have these numbers for boasting rights. They're already losing $200,000 per car sold. And these numbers are already a kind of a mirage.

[@BBingo-v5i]

Lol nice try fanboy, you never drove a gas car before? "Charging" takes 5 minutes max and you can continue your journey. If you need to take a break, you clear the "charging station" anyway and park at a dedicated parking lot. 25 minutes of charging (and only up to 80% so you do not even get maximum range afterwards!) is only acceptable because of the low volume of EVs on the road and the enthusiastic first movers who wouldn't even mind waiting 30min or more for 80% range. Actually,Tesla's "Long-Range" models still take 30min to charge to 80%, even though that's like last decade charging speeds. The mass market clearly needs faster charging and more range. And both of them lead to an 800V-architecture and 800V infrastructure. Tesla's max charging power and charging curve is abysmal and so is their outdated charging network.

[@unborn3671]

Bullshit

[@777Outrigger]

@@unborn3671 Just so happens I have the numbers on my last 500 mile road trip. Leave my home in Evergreen, Co with 100% and arrive at the Trinidad, Co Supercharger 3 hrs and 14 minutes later with 12%, and THEN CHARGED for 11 MINUTES to 48%. Then drove for 1 hr 35 minutes to the Clayton, NM supercharger and CHARGED for 23 MINUTES from 10% to 71%. Arrived 2 hrs and 19 minutes at my destination, a VRBO rental, with 12%. You need to be a little more informed when you post before you make a fool of yourself.

[@777Outrigger]

@@unborn3671 I have the numbers on my last road trip. .. 500 miles from my house to my VRBO rental. One Charging stop in Trinidad, Co for 12 minutes, 12-47%. .. Then a charging stop in Clayton, NM for 23 minutes, 10-71%... Arrive with 12% at my rental in Canyon, Tx

[@777Outrigger]

@@unborn3671 Sorry, Just did a 500 mile road trip. Two charging stops, one of 11 minutes and one of 23 minutes.

[@wasabi521]

I’ll take talk for an hour without saying anything real for 400 please.

[@brianmorgan4792]

Tesla fanboy 😢