Rivian R1T vs Cybertruck Highway Range Test! Don't Trust The EPA Rated Difference, Surprising Result

[@OutofSpecReviews]

For those who just want the results, we've chapterized this video so you can skip right to that! The rest of the video is fun and packed w/ good info, please check it out

[@SpottedSharks]

Love that. Great for regular viewers who are familiar with the testing procedures.

[@tslaryrad]

Maybe there is some software locked performance hidden in the 4680 as they test it to ensure thermals?

[@KyleConner]

@@SpottedSharksthere’s always some little details about the trucks we put in there though 😅

[@Military_Tesla_Fam]

Best part about being on leave for the next 3 weeks is binging every second of these long videos 😂 thanks for your awesome content!

[@seymorefact4333]

😍😍 I want a v10 diesel that only gets 8 mpg! THANK GOD TRUMP IS GIVING THE FINGER TO EVs

[@mike_carvalho]

TLDW - The results by the numbers: EPA Rating: R1T - 420 miles CT - 325 miles Difference - 95 miles Actual Range: R1T - 266 miles CT - 252 miles Difference - 14 miles Total kW Used: R1T - 141kWh CT - 121kWh Difference - 20 kWh Efficiency: R1T - 1.89 miles/kWh CT - 2.08 miles/kWh

[@PopsGG]

You the real MVP! Thanks

[@daftrok]

EPA ratings for EVs are a joke.

[@ironrje]

Surprised they were so close.

[@bigjeep127]

That is insanely bad efficiency for the Rivian. My Gen 1 dual motor large pack gets 2.7 on road trips which puts it right at the EPA range of 350 miles. That's averaging 75mph. His must have issues. EDIT: I have the 21" wheels EDIT: Also took a road trip in a quad loaner with the 34" all terrain's on 20's... got about 2.3 on the large pack so a range of 300 miles, as advertised.

[@brandonkylemarks]

@@bigjeep127 thanks for this. I recalled the gen 1 getting very close to EPA numbers at launch as long as the tires weren't chunky off roaders, seems gen 2 is going in the wrong direction in a lot of ways

[@natehill8069]

Actually, Id prefer to see more cold-weather range tests.

[@tylergood1223]

Absolutely!

[@Jaxamuss]

Agreed, I'd rather know how they'll do on their worst day. Edit: I think this was a good test, hope to see more! Good work Kyle and friends!

[@Brianfightingmad]

More real. People drive in all weather. Kyle doesn't seem to understand that.

[@junehanzawa5165]

Watch videos from Norway. They do cold and harsh weather tests all the time. However, this is still great to see as they don't have these trucks over there.

[@dakota4766]

@@Jaxamussyes

[@olemissjim]

This is the best EV nerd content ever. Thanks for sharing

[@grumpyhighlander]

Perfect test. I’m in Durango so I really appreciated this test.

[@robertmartino6985]

I look at this as everyday driving, when travel there are not times we had the perfect weather. I understand you want the most ideal conditions. Really enjoy what you and your team are doing with EV’s.

[@Brent1701-E]

Maybe you guys should put the details on screen in writing, because I was having a bit of trouble following the discussion. Sounded like you said the Rivian with full charge only did 260 miles? That seems crazy when it's EPA over 400.

[@KyleConner]

If you skip to the results section it should be pretty clear

[@darinbrazil5496]

Obviously a very windy day and cold, not an optimal test. The Gen1 quad R1T large pack has been tested doing 340+ miles at 70MPH. I really dont understand the reasoning behind this test. I want to know the best it can do not the worst.

[@KyleConner]

@ it’s more of a comparison between them, not a single vehicle test which we try for the best conditions for those. For comparisons the conditions don’t matter too much to see the difference

[@TeslaSpaceX]

Do you only drive your cars in the summer? ​@@darinbrazil5496

[@Cyrribrae]

​@@darinbrazil5496they clearly put a lot of work into getting both cars on a day they could both do this head to head. And they expected the weather to be decent this day. I would prefer they not throw away that work and the time spent on the test just because the weather forecast was wrong. Oh well. It is what it is.

[@houghtonic1975]

Tests like this are why I'd like to see a CT with a 175 kW-hr battery pack. That would put CT at approximately the same range as the Sierra EV. I need a truck that will comfortably go 200 miles in less-than-ideal conditions while towing a smaller livestock or utility trailer. The original CT spec looked like it could do that. I guess we need some more battery breakthroughs to make it happen.

[@PHY51C15T]

They could have done this what day is prioritized greater capacity for higher sales volumes over longer ranges and smaller sale volumes

[@bartdeking]

Why would you, you can barley hold your piss for that long so why over engineering the battery with at result that less people can enjoy the cybertruck. Just drive a diesel truck for now and let the 99% of people that do not tow on a daily bases have a cybertruck.

[@PHY51C15T]

@@bartdeking I've done a road trip one time that was 10 hours long and we only did one bathroom stop for half hour in a gas car. Most of them will do 550-700km on a tank. Would be awesome to be be able to do this in a Tesla. My main desire though is having around 300 miles of range out of 60% of the pack, so that I can do more driving at a time. This would save time and money without having to supercharge or bring my battery pack outside of 20-80%, speeding up degradation in the process. That's what 500 miles real world range would grant.

[@mowensmd]

Which is why the range extender is the better solution: only for those who need it. (if it comes out)

[@petrkubena]

@@bartdeking I can be done pissing in 2 minues and that includes 2x30 seconds walking to/from a bathroom and thoroughly cleaning my hands. Until any EV can be charged to do another ~200 miles in that time (or at least close enough), don't use this misleading argument. And even then - it's the difference between you catering to your vehicle and vehicle catering to your needs. If you have ~500 miles of range, you can stop whenever YOU need/want. If you have 200 miles on a good day, you have to stop when the car needs to. Even if you have sleeping kids in the back and would prefer not to wake them up.

[@KreeH2023]

This is a great way to hold a comparison, with both vehicles seeing the same conditions. The EPA needs to improve their estimates for BEVs, maybe have multiple estimates for city, highway, cold and hot driving conditions.

[@zollotech]

Surprising results for the Rivian

[@davidmenasco5743]

It reminds me of the first tests of charging speed, where the Rivian appeared to be beating the pants off the F-150 Lightning, but then after about 75% state of charge, the Lightning caught up and then pulled ahead.

[@stevehuthman741]

Last summer under ideal conditions (warm weather, no headwind, etc.) I made a 650 mile trip in my Rivian R1T (gen 1, dual-motor, max pack, 21” wheels). I charged up to 100% at home and drove 310 miles in hilly terrain and had 14% remaining. Then I took advantage of free level 2 charging at my hotel to charge overnight back up to 100% and drove on another 340 miles to my destination (with 8% remaining). I figure that I spent about $17 in residential electricity for that 650 mile trip in a pickup truck. Even in winter I've never had a range of less than 320 miles (calculated based on miles vs. percent of battery used). The EPA “overall” rating on my truck is 410 miles, but if you look into the EPA documents the “highway” rating is actually around 375 miles. I came pretty close to that on this trip.

[@kimle01]

What speed is EPA test at 55 mph? There is a huge difference between 55 and 70.

[@chrisanderson687]

I absolutely love how nerdy you guys are getting into all the details, this is great! :D

[@SuperKemp77]

Really would like to see a 2023 f-150 lightning vs 24 with a heat pump in like 30 degree weather. Thanks for the reviews!

[@KyleConner]

We had one - ford borrowed it for an event, but we are getting it back! Coming soon

[@seymorefact4333]

😍😍 I want a v10 diesel that only gets 8 mpg! THANK GOD TRUMP IS GIVING THE FINGER TO EVs

[@SuperKemp77]

@ my monthly commute would cost 925$ with that lol. But good luck to ya

[@macbook802]

Theyre both terrible

[@jackylsmith8138]

@@seymorefact4333where you getting a v10 diesel. No one has one for sale in the US that I know of. V8 yes, v10 diesel nope.

[@sdssmart7524]

That's like $15k rip off, Standard Range LFP did 241 Ml out of 270 Ml, $15k more MAX pack did 266 Ml out of 410Ml . So 25 Ml cost $15k. I am glad I bought LFP, and it's charging a lot better as well.

[@YeFamilyAdventures]

Something is way off about this test, it shouldn’t be getting under 2mi/kwh

[@polzovotel]

@@YeFamilyAdventures maybe wind - but the purpose of this test is to compare 2 vehicle under the same conditions. that were not perfect but same for both

[@davidmenasco5743]

This test is good for comparing the two tested vehicles with each other. Not good for comparing to anything else. Your comparison to LFP version is only valid if that was tested on this route in similar or same temperatures and wind speeds.

[@alexmharbison]

Love the Thermomix on the counter!

[@boostav]

Interesting, when the Mountain Pass guys compared them side by side they said the Cybertruck got better efficiency than the Rivian, I thought they must have messed up something but looks like it is true (under some conditions).

[@babarbaig8983]

Thanks! Love the meticulous attention to fairness. Go Tesla!

[@B4R0N.]

Well I sure didn't expect THAT result! Definitely would like to see the difference in summer.

[@darrenorange2982]

This was really surprising.

[@RealDKuz]

Dang rivian just can’t catch a break these last few days.

[@brandonkylemarks]

I don't get how RJ is out there giving interviews on how 800v isn't needed for the r2 and r3 line, meanwhile the gen 2 r1s and t are putting in results like this

[@RealDKuz]

@ CEO’s gotta sell on his brand.

[@phxees]

I feel like we're only a few days away Kyle declaring the R1T the only pickup to consider with its range of over 400 miles.

[@boostav]

@@brandonkylemarks I mean model 3 and y aren't 800v either.

[@brandonkylemarks]

@@boostav v4 superchargers mean future 3s and Ys will be. It seems pretty obvious in short time all EVs will be, if kia/hyundai make it work then everyone else will.

[@newscoulomb3705]

Thank you for confirming my completely made up and totally off-the-cuff rule of thumb that people really shouldn't expect better than ~2 mi/kWh efficiency out of a fullsize EV truck in real-world driving.

[@Cyrribrae]

I wouldn't say that. Rivian got close to 2 and tesla exceeded it at 2.1 in cold and windy conditions. I'm not saying you should expect your big ev trucks to hit 3 mi/kWh, but 2 is definitely not the limit.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@Cyrribrae I didn't say it was the limit. I said people shouldn't be expecting better than that out of a fullsize EV truck, especially not the way that trucks are supposed to be used. If you're just using it as a commuter for your office job, sure, you should expect a bit better efficiency.

[@Cyrribrae]

@newscoulomb3705 I mean. Just saying that it's not unreasonable to expect better than 2mi/kwh at highway speeds in decent conditions, if both of these cars already achieved that or near that at highway speeds in very poor conditions, no?

[@Soh90]

I have a Model Y and I've only seen 300+ mile of range once. It was a round trip from Maryland to Jersey and back and it was about 90 degrees outside. I had the AC set to about 69 degrees and cruise ranging from 65 to 69mph. I hit 300 miles of range and still had about 3% left in the battery. Other than that day, I usually only get about 275 miles on a charge. And obviously no one is using the full battery on these things so realistically I only get about 170 miles when keeping my battery between 20% and 80%.

[@sinoevc]

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. It has been incredibly valuable to me. I look forward to the opportunity to learn more from you in the future.

[@hotcoffeejunky3139]

Great video. Your channel helped my pull the trigger on a 2023 Ford Lightning Pro last month. Appreciate all the work you all put into your videos.

[@polzovotel]

How much real miles you can get from lightning at highway speeds?

[@hotcoffeejunky3139]

@@polzovotel It really depends, but average is a loss of between 20%-30%, the trip I just took I lost about 30% due to trying into a storm front, on the way home it was like 20%. So 320 miles is my max lost 20% of that and was getting about 256 miles, which works quite well for me cause of the kids I stop every 1.5 hours anyway so we charge while they use the bathroom and get snacks. Plus I plan a longer charging stop to go with a food stop.

[@polzovotel]

@@hotcoffeejunky3139 So the same as Rivian R1T Quad Large Pack. I need to look at F150 and try it. I like R1T but ADAS is really sucks, have some hope in Blue Cruze

[@jeffplusjeff]

This feels better in terms of range tests. Vehicles traveling together is the only way to truely shake out the numbers

[@johnlabernik4599]

I know you guys like to post ideal conditions range tests, but for the popular models/trims an ideal vs winter range test would be very useful. “How does it do in winter” is the second question I get after “how far can you go on a charge”

[@boostav]

The problem is normalizing for winter conditions is impossible, way too much variability in winter weather.

[@jeffplusjeff]

@@boostavyeah but testing all vehicles together eliminates that variability. This is the type of tests they should be doing.

[@mojavelinux]

I really feel like there is something wrong with this R1T. I drove along I-25 into Wyoming this past summer in a Gen2 R1S and got 370mi of range on a full charge.

[@stevehuthman741]

I agree. My worst winter range (R1T, gen 1, dual-motor, max pack, 21” wheels) is over 320 miles and my average (winter and summer) is over 340 miles.

[@kevdogsab]

For anyone thinking about buying Martian wheels for your cybertruck, they don’t seem to very on-time with their estimates. I ordered mine in September and the website said delivery within 4-6 weeks. Last week, I inquired when they would be shipping and they said hopefully by Christmas. 3 months+ right now for their bead-lock wheels. I wouldn’t have ordered them if I knew I wouldn’t get them for the start of my winter season this year. I was going to switch to Martian wheels for my Model S as well, but not sure I’d ever order from Martian again since they totally lie about how long orders will take. Paying 100% up front and waiting 3+ months when they were supposed to be just over a month is unacceptable. Horrible customer service at Martian since they didn’t even make an attempt to let me know there was a delay.

[@hugdeath929]

How can you even tell that the wheels don’t look good when you’re looking at that rolling electric mandoline? Beauty must most definitely be in the eye of the beholder.

[@ani_b]

Woo! One of the earliest comments I've made on one of your videos 💪😀

[@mowensmd]

Great job, quite the example of design and engineering choices!

[@jeremyhoeksema4395]

I would love to see a comparison of the Rivian running in 10 F (-12 C) for us Canadians who have to run trucks in cooler weather. This is a great comparison for fall driving, but I'd love to know more about our average winter day. I'd also love to compare how the Standard Range Rivian compares to the Large Pack and Max Pack!

[@junehanzawa5165]

Not bad results concidering the cold and the high winds not only creating high resistance, but really lowering the "windchill" factor on the batteries underneath the trucks, making them less efficient.

[@petertewilliger1052]

Shout-out to this charging station. If it's consistently on OOS, then it is solid!

[@polzovotel]

@KyleConner - thank you for this test, it is very interesting, and just shows who has the best tech. Right now - Tesla is years ahead (and I have R1T Gen1 btw).

[@airheart1]

I value THIS test more than I would a 'perfect' conditions test. Perfect conditions are few and far between. I'd rather know how they perform in NON perfect conditions.. rather than get f'd because I thought I'd get this great milage but as soon as the temps drop and the wind blows, it's a sudden and unexpected MASSIVE hit to range. I don't care what EPA says.. we know they are very specific testing criteria.. and while it's an ok guesstimate to compare cars with.. knowing which one is more efficient when conditions go to crap, is pretty valuable info.

[@polzovotel]

The way to deal with this is to enable navigation to take into consideration wind and temperature. I think ABRP can do that, but never tested it (paid version only)

[@davidws5439]

Great test. The Cybertruck had a great range for the battery size. Both are very nice to own. EV'S for the win. If Cybertruck could have a 175kwh pack, it would be outstanding.

[@houghtonic1975]

@@davidws5439 that is exactly the size battery pack I want in that vehicle and without shrinking the bed.

[@BaraahaMalatov-t8p]

Loved every second video! You nailed it!

[@777Outrigger]

Tesla Charging just announced 500 kW charging available at V4s starting next year. And also more "long cable" chargers than short cable chargers in 18 months. I think that means more V4s than V3s or V2s in 18 months. Maybe not all 500 kW at first. Tesla Charging also said all Cybertrucks will be able to charge at 500 kW. No word on the charging curve.

[@zguy95135]

Probably for like 10 seconds haha but if you get another 100kw on average for the charging session it will be FAST.

[@kenion2166]

Yeah CT import in Europe already hits 405 KW+ reaching the amp limit of the charger. Obviously charge curve drops significant to protect the battery like tesla always does. Iam confident that it can reach atleast 450KW on a V4 charger with the new cabinets

[@777Outrigger]

@@kenion2166 Telsa's saying 30% faster charging for the Cybertruck when 500 kW is enabled.

[@kenion2166]

@@777Outrigger From 10-80 its ~30% yeah but should be significant faster if charging from 10-60~

[@jamiea8318]

EPA ratings *are not* sustained highway tests. I have a gen2 dual max R1T and have only been falling short of the EPA rating in mixed use driving by 2 miles in this colder November weather.

[@KaleCreech]

Seems like they should bring over the City/Highway numbers like gas cars have a City/Highway MPG on the window sticker. These tests are great lol

[@USUG0]

edmunds in their range test (that more closely resemble epa testing cycles) found a 56 miles difference between the R1T quad motor and CT dual motor (with AT tires). So, indeed, you kind of can trust the EPA Rated Difference

[@pfunk768]

Yeah I got a tire puncture soft wheeling (rocky forest road) in my Rivian OE all seasons. Thank goodness for onboard compressor and bought your plug kit. Now I'm running LT Nokian Outpost nATs and trust them on pretty much anything.

[@jonathantrottier1582]

Winter range tests would be nice. I know I would really like that info.

[@Bluelightning23]

I don't remember if this was mentioned, but in the wintertime, air density is also increased.

[@AdamFrugoli]

Wow! I wasn't expecting that.

[@cybrrrrrrrr]

@kyle it would be cool if you could do a real world test comparison of the CT wheel options including with and without aero covers. I haven’t found anything about it except very rough estimates.

[@AndyWNY]

I have the cybertruck beast with Core wheels as well as the Snow package on Cyber rims, and I would say I'm seeing a bit of a difference between them. Granted I happen to also use the winter tires when its cold, so hard to get a true comparison. But it would be interesting to back to back with the different wheel sets.

[@5252085]

I would have loved to also see the Silverado EV 4WT in this test too to see how it measures up. Any chance you can include that truck too?

[@vincentrobinette1507]

It could have something to do with absorption charge. The best way to charge a battery to 100% is to charge on level 1 over night. That gives the battery management system time to top balance the cells in the battery. it also gives time to get a more thorough heat soak in the battery pack, for more uniform temperature throughout the whole battery pack. That could yield at least another 5 kWh or so in each of the battery packs in the trucks, perhaps more!

[@VadersFirst]

Remember that the companies do their own EPA testing so it may vary

[@blakeogeris2494]

Really? I thought it was outsourced. Good to know

[@austinterry2094]

100% agree about the rear view mirror comment

[@jarralryter]

I'm in Gunnison CO. We haven't been above freezing for months. I'm a small market but would love to see all wheel drive, smaller trucks in cold weather tests. OK more choice in cars also. I really don't like the waste of such large vehicles that you don't really need. But here i do drive on some rougher roads. Maybe rivian R2?

[@kenehong]

Thanks for sharing another great video! Just one thing to note at 22:13 - CT is foundation series, and their EPA is higher than the non-FS models.

[@alekskuksenko]

They should be essentially the same its just a recalculation

[@Cybertruck_69]

Would love to see a test of Cybertruck vs all, at night in snowy conditions. Like dumping snowing conditions.

[@bjackson1975]

Well done OoS Team!

[@PWN-E]

Love the FSD craziness! My latest trial still needs intervention about every two miles on my way to work. But yeah, it'll be ready in 2025 😳🤣

[@bradleyanderson4315]

No manual cruise control in the Rivian? Plus no Apple CarPlay?

[@ryankelly5303]

Awesome video thanks for sharing

[@Quickicecarreviews2]

Ooo a new OOS testing channel fixing sub now!

[@unborn3671]

Lucid to the rescue!!

[@TannerBugatti]

Have you considered getting a Dyno to do range testing indoors?

[@RealDKuz]

Perhaps something is really off w that Rivian truck. Didn’t Kyle say it was having rear motor issue or something? My Gen1 Large pack I did 280+ miles going 80mph. In Florida tho.

[@polzovotel]

Cold and wind.

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

ICE vehicles can be affected badly with headwinds and towing, but when they do you can still fill up quickly along the way and not be inconvenienced except for some additional cost. In an EV, it could mean additional hours of charging and not making you destination in time.

[@herrporschex]

i wonder how much the gmc sierra max range or the chevy silverado max range would do at this weather

[@davidcarrier8462]

Hi Kyle,love your videos on all platforms.I would like to see a stress test of the v3 supercharger by taking 8 almost empty car and charging them all at the same time on a 8 stall v3 and see if and how they charge and the system performs.

[@dudefjdfkhllkj]

I'd like to see some cold soaked DC charging testing. Will demonstrate how effective the cars are at conditioning themselves enough to charge.

[@taker610]

I'd be averaging more like 80-85mph on a road trip throughout Utah, Idaho and Oregon plus there'd be major elevation changes. That makes it even harder to predict just what you'll get. I think the extended range EV will catch on quickly as several will be introduced in the next few years.

[@polzovotel]

100% agree. I had a Volt once, and this idea is great. Get EV range (let say 250--300 miles) and then gasoline generator will supply another 100+ miles if needed. So you do not need to worry about charger location. I love this idea.

[@chrisanderson687]

Something to consider: using FSD requires using the very powerful inference computer, which surely must use a lot of energy. I have to think Cybertruck (or any Tesla) would get more range with FSD switched off, but curious to see how much difference it would make?

[@OSUBeaver03]

The government really needs to take a look on how they estimate range for EVs. I’ve had this problem in Volvo EVs. Their range tanks in the winter. There should be an EPA range with best and worst case scenarios

[@ATE2AQTR]

Sure wish you had run The Sierrado twins big battery 460 mile range versions in the test

[@nickolashaustein]

The front cameras on Rivian Gen2 don’t have their own heating element so if you have issues with driver assistance features I would get out and look to see if the cameras are fogged. The defrost has a really hard time defogging them. I’ve run into the issue every morning

[@JeffWusch]

Is Francie still with OOS? Havent seen her on a podcast recently?

[@SpottedSharks]

nope

[@JeffWusch]

@@SpottedSharks ☹

[@73henny]

Interesting test. Also interesting is the OOS testing channel. Why wouldn't this test be on the testing channel. Seems confusing.

[@AlienSasquatch14]

If you set the stability to reduced in all purpose mode on the Rivian it defeats the conserve mode and keeps it four-wheel-drive

[@NJBRANDON1]

Can you do an efficiency test with the Cybertrucks vault open vs closed?

[@darinbrazil5496]

Ok to be fair I didn't see your cut in video in the being with the wind and cold disclaimer. Still think the Title should have been more representative of the actual test for future query search results.

[@Infantry4Life.WarFighters]

1.86 kw per mile is pretty low. I never go below 1.99. That is crazy

[@JimmyDeanBallistic]

I love the Cybertruck for everything that it is, but it would be nice if there was the option for a +/- 150kWh battery pack.

[@KyleConner]

Make it 200kWh while you’re at it 🫡

[@JimmyDeanBallistic]

@ Even Better! Double stack the battery pack for a 246kWh towing machine

[@Ignacio.Romero]

Well they promised and still haven't delivered the range extender that would make the battery around 180 kWh or so. It does eat into the bed tho

[@JimmyDeanBallistic]

@ Many end users won’t want to sacrifice box space. I’m one of them. I use a truck for truck things and a 4 to 4 1/2 foot box just won’t do the trick. I don’t particularly like the Chevy or GM ev and would take a Cybertruck over them any day, but the battery pack they have is wicked cool.

[@UnexpectedTokens]

same... but i also understand why it does not, tesla is keeping it profitable

[@darinbrazil5496]

The Gen2 systems seem to not be optimized by Rivian yet because it doesn't seem to be as efficient as other tests done with Gen1 vehicles. Tom did a Gen1 70MPH range test in similar conditions and achieved over 2 mpkwh. There is no reason the Gen1 would be more efficient than Gen2.

[@MikeHeller]

Was that in conserve mode in a quad? What was the spec of the truck that did 2m/kwh?

[@darinbrazil5496]

@@MikeHeller Quad in conserve Large battery pack and a set of all-terrain tires, "this Rivian is rated to do roughly 274 miles in ideal conditions. However, on this cold and rainy day, the conditions are less than perfect. As per usual, Tom walks us through the entire testing process and shows us how the truck performed along the way" Not even road tires on this spec. 253 miles on 125KWH used at 2.03 miles per kilowatt.

[@bob15479]

different day different wind, weather etc.

[@darinbrazil5496]

@@bob15479 Thats fine if you feel that way but I want to see proof before I just put it off on different day different wind thinking. No one has been able to prove that a Gen 2 Max pack is more efficient than a Gen 1 Max pack.

[@jowualife]

Nice car mount in the Cybertruck

[@BrandonDoyleMN]

Wind & cold sure have quite the impact

[@joetacchino4470]

Kyle, great video….grab some Obsessed Garage under cabinet lights for your kitchen. I replaced my old fluorescent ones with the OG ones and they sure fantastic

[@experimental_av]

Start to feel sorry for US based EV reviewers, they gotta test the same old cars over and over gain in new combinations.

[@MatthewSerta1]

Where do you get mudflaps and how much are they lol. I broke the inside one on the rear.

[@trstrean]

I think your test shows why people want those higher ranges you mentioned in the beginning of the video (400-500 miles). It isn't that they want to go that far, they probably want to comfortably know they can make 250 miles which is very normal for weekend adventures if you are trying to get somewhere. I know my thought is the vehicle needs to offer ranges more than 300, but your test indicates maybe I should want 400 minimum on a road trip vehicle. I wouldn't say this test showed a comfortable range of 250 miles.

[@Longsnowsm]

Winter range is brutal. CT efficiency in these conditions is pretty good. Those EPA figures are total fiction. The CT core wheels appear to make more difference then you would think. Winter range tests a very important.

[@MyYeloGremlin]

Driving the CT for 20 miles Preconditioning the battery (double power) made this an equal wash.

[@CodyNA]

You guys need to do a test with rivian R1t LFP battery.

[@chrish883]

Sorry but 400ish-500miles is very necessary. Some of us want to use for towing, or maybe remote drives, camping few days without stress over battery or just 6hour road trip without charging 2-3times. Plugging in appliances or tools when camping or contractors out at work site for hours wanting charge batteries. Many reason for bigger batteries.

[@bartdeking]

Just drive a diesel truck for now as 99% of people are perfectly fine with 250mi range and a 150 mile towing range for the few times a year they tow. I 100% get that Tesla goes for the 99% and let the 1% wait till the production is significantly ramped up and battery production can keep up with the demand.

[@stevehuthman741]

I agree. If you look at a map of Utah you will see that almost all DC fast chargers are located along I-15. In the rest of the state there are thousands of miles of state highways and scenic byways with no DC fast charging at all. I wish people in California would stop telling us that we don't need more range.

[@bartdeking]

@stevehuthman741 i wonder if you are deliberately deceptive, lying or not so smart or need glasses but there is a Supercharger available within 150 mile (delta to Ely) of any place in utah most of them within 50mi. Maybe stop being with all the drama and use think a bit more rational rather than emotional.

[@stevehuthman741]

@@bartdeking I did say “almost” all DC fast chargers. Level 2 chargers don't help much unless you are charging overnight. Also I don't see any DC fast chargers (50kw or greater) in Delta. There is one listed in Ely but it shows as broken. I checked both Plugshare and ABRP. Am I missing something? Also take a look at the route from Montecello Utah, through Capitol Reef, Bryce Canyon, and Zion - 3 national parks and 400 miles with no DC fast chargers. Also, many Tesla superchargers in small towns are still version 2 (not usable be non-Teslas).

[@bartdeking]

@stevehuthman741 but who is so stupid to buy a non tesla 🤣 Like asking kodak for a good digital camera.

[@dukedunac]

2:13 AMBER: Drive Electric, Stree Free lmao

[@BrettKelly-c5w]

Rivian definitely does not like wind. We got caught in heavy rain plus wind strong enough to cause an 18 wheeler in front of us to have trailer tires leave the ground, we averaged 1.4 miles per kwh when we normally do 2.1 at higher speeds. Gen 1 quad.

[@joeyscleaninglady2877]

EPA tests wall to wheel efficiency as well which is missing from this test

[@CanonicGames]

I wonder if it's possible that the Rivian's rear motor was unknowingly engaged the whole time or partially. Perhaps due to choosing the wrong drive move, wind resistance causing it to stay engaged in order to maintain 70mph+, or even a software bug keeping it engaged -- maybe ADAS is forcing the rear motor to stay connected.

[@MrUled]

Please put the results on screen, it's hard to keep track

[@glennalexon1530]

It's lucky you had that Rivian emergency lighting; it prevented other drivers from swerving off the road and trying to pass you on the right, through that field. Who knows what kind of chaos would ensue if all you had were hazard lights? #smart

[@konartist66]

Would love to see you guys do a 70mph for Silverado EV LT

[@HackSparrow8]

Yes, get all the Rivian specs Gen 2 together for range test please. And while you are at it 10% challenge.

[@jeffreysims1249]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5bZmZSZpc-ca9U Just the one truck for now

[@timthompson6441]

For charging experts question, I have a Nema 14/30p in my garage for RVs is 125v. I can buy an adapter from Home Depot so I can connect the 14/50r from my level 2 portable charger. What happen if I do this? I thought it might be better than my 110v slow level 1 charging, but not sure if it would work at all or just burn down my house kind of thing ? Anyone tried this? I think some people must charge their EV at an RV site this way right?

[@stevehuthman741]

@@timthompson6441 because of the adapter your car will think that it is on a 50 amp circuit and will pop the circuit breaker unless you manually set the car to a lower current.

[@lawrencejob]

Would you guys consider getting the Meta glasses with camera or a fixed mount camera? I love your content but holding phones is stressing me out :D

[@kcr607]

Out of SPec, you said just get the all-ter wheels for the CT but if I want better miles should I not?