Buying a Non-Foundation Cybertruck & Comparison ... What is different, FSD Transfer &, any Regrets?

[@sageakporherhe783]

Glad he stood his ground on the FSD transfer.

[@michael-gk3ib]

He says he has transferred FSD to CT, it doesn't have FSD in now and that just tells how desperate Tesla is to sell their ridiculous CT since 97% who car signed up to a have said from CT is the new Deloren🤣

[@Tim_Kent]

FSD should be licensed to the customer who pays for it, and stored in the driver profile. That way, FSD would be enabled whichever Tesla you drive, including a rental car. ☮️

[@gregmcfarland5189]

I think they should sell that as a different package for a higher price. Life chauffeur $25000 any Tesla you drive activates FSD.

[@MikeyMantle]

Good ideas!

[@tumbleweed1976]

Yes. Or perhaps 5 year window? I’m concerned if the vehicle was totaled.

[@ShotgunAFlyboy]

This exact problem makes the subscription a way better deal than buying it outright.

[@gasser5001]

In the long run, I'm sure the 'purchase FSD for X amount' will go away and only have a sub.

[@samirshah5411]

Great comparison video. I just finally went through with my reservation from July 2020 and ordered a non foundation cyber beast. I also just hit 100,000 miles in our long range model Y I got in June 2021, that car has been so reliable and solid.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@samirshah5411 👍😎

[@lucasd231]

100,000 miles in 3-4 years? Wow

[@samirshah5411]

@ yup drive about 2400 miles a month for work

[@xiaoandmatt]

Matching trucks and matching shirts

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Yep … unplanned on the shirts but worked out!

[@iq6840]

Don't let him fool you, they ARE dating!!!!! 😂

[@callmeletstalkswgoh8182]

There are trees behind the trucks.

[@fogdog8496]

The none Foundation series is like ultra dystopian, absolutely no external markings period for the dual motor. Very cool look. Great video. Thanks.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@fogdog8496 you’re welcome! Thank you for watching!

[@WideWorldofTrains]

In regards to the gold colored casting in the front wheelwell, I got my cyber truck foundation series truck on August 30th and it still has the gold color casting

[@michaelcasino8517]

So happy we can transfer our fsd to the cybertrucks

[@mikesunderland9145]

You will probably have to play hardball with Tesla to get that to work.

[@timlamacchia7070]

When i go to my cybertruck reservation and attempt to initiate a purchase of a cybertruck, there is no option to transfer my FSD. I'm still holding out for the reinstatement of the $7,500 tax credit.

[@737smartin]

I'm not eligible for the tax credit. Was waiting for SOME $5K or more value-add to activate one of my 3 CTs. I pulled the trigger 48 hrs ago... within hours of seeing Tesla would let me transfer FSD.

[@TheHungryPigeon]

@@mikesunderland9145 You don't. I just did it with zero pushback. The guys in the store didn't know if I could - the app just popped up and asked me.

[@TheReal_JG]

This is a cool comparison between the trims! Personally, I like the look of the grey interior over the white, which is ironic because I LOVE the white interior in the new Model 3 (paired with the red exterior paint).

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@TheReal_JG 😎👍

[@timschoenfelder1773]

Joe & Dan, Thank you for the comparison! Very helpful.

[@JSalamida]

Great video!! No more sleepless nights wondering about how I will deal with my non Foundation inadequacies. This really was a great vid. 🙏

[@ALXXR63AMG]

The Differences are underwhelming the Difference in price is overwhelming

[@johnchristopher7697]

Great comparison video Joe! Thanks for doing this!

[@bobsgradinginc.9308]

Thanks for the video Just got a chance to test drive the truck. Was such a cool experience Enjoy your truck

[@goldviper5280]

Great comparison. Love the Cybertruck.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Thanks!

[@darellosmusic]

I keep going back and forth from the core and cyber wheels. the core wheels look good in this vid. thanks!

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@darellosmusic glad this was helpful! 😎📐

[@GarretL757]

Congrats Dan, I’m so boat, hour 1 reservation holder, waiting for the credit if it ever comes!!

[@RichardLapointe-x8g]

Hello Joe, once again and great and informative video. I am also an early reservation CT guy, but being Canadian, only the Foundation Series are being offered now. I prefer the larger wheels, but I am not sure which interior color I will eventually choose. I have never actually seen a Cybertruck in person, but next month I will be traveling down into California and I intend to educate myself so that I will know exactly what I want. Thank you so much for this video, as it was great to hear from a non-foundation series buyer. Thanks again, your videos are a great help. I recently bought a DJI Air 3 as I know you do as well. Thank You!!

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Thanks Richard and aim glad you found this helpful as you think about how you will configure your Cybertruck! Good luck on your trip and getting everything arranged! 😎📐

[@flyshacker]

Regarding Dan’s desire for backup power for his house, you don’t need to plug into the 240 outlet! There is a “whole gadget” (excuse my highly technical terminology) that enables you to have household backup power through the Cybertruck charging cable I believe! It’s like getting a Powerwall installed but your Cybertruck IS the Powerwall. They will install a gateway and other equipment, but a power outage in your house becomes unnoticeable when the power that was charging the CT battery instantly reverses and powers the whole house from the CT battery. Supposedly up to 3 days of power, but of course that depends on your household power usage and the percent of charge of your CT battery. What I like about that is, if your CT battery starts going low from powering your house, you can drive to a Supercharger to fill it back up, then drive home and power your house for another 3 days!

[@flyshacker]

This is an addendum to my post above. The “gadget” is called “PowerShare” which includes a gateway and a two way wall charger, all available from Tesla. The Cybertruck battery is equivalent to 9.4 Powerwalls!!

[@SCWgreg]

Very helpful!!! Thank you Joe and Dan. A day one res holder, and I’ve been holding out for the same reasons!

[@edv888YouTube]

I think you missed the omission of Powershare components and 2 chargers, lifetime connectivity, etc

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Yep … good catch

[@seant1325]

It's a missed opportunity that Tesla did not add a second screen like the model S & X for all Foundation series and then continued it only with the Cyber Beast.

[@Electrum]

Wait only the CyberBeast has the second display for the back seats ?

[@x2eXu50x]

@@Electrum No. Idk what hes even trying to say.

[@OWill40]

Very cool! Always wondered which was a better option.

[@ParthPatel-lc7eq]

Great video. You should post more videos on the non foundation truck.

[@t.w.3]

Nice comparison and nice highlight of the key features. Still waiting for the Cybertruck to come available in Norway.

[@olebloom1641]

Glad to see the comparison. Still deciding on my reservation. Really need the almost 500 miles of range since I tow a lot and sometimes over 200 miles. Unfortuantly may need to go with the Silverado. Usually where I tow from there are no super chargers.

[@mayorsnorkum4005]

Yes, for me the lack of range of the current Cybertruck and the fact that it is not eligible for the federal $7,500 are reasons to hold off. The superior range of both the Chevy and the GMC are both very enticing. The biggest problem with buying a GM truck is having to go back to dealing with a dealership!! Musk should probably not have promised a 500 mile range, then delivered little more than HALF of that amount. Too bad. It could have been a really epic truck.

[@ygorhun]

gret comparison video, thank you

[@CforCybertruck]

God's work, Joe, thanks! Glad to see an acceleration to the growth of our Cybertruck community.

[@garyhenderson8178]

Excellent information! Thank you for sharing!

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@garyhenderson8178 thank you Gary!

[@weeklongwind]

Do both trucks have a NEMA 14 outlet with 2 three-prong plugs?

[@highlanderapparel]

Thanks, Joe. Always appreciate your video comments and Contant the Highlander my motto is kindness is always free. Use it exercise it daily.❤😊

[@cjamesadams1]

The dash board materials are different also, Foundation has the suede leather finish. Also, the foundation series has a different sound system with 23 speakers vs 15 speakers. Additionally, the foundation series has lifetime premium connectivity.

[@papafamilias92010]

Only cyber beast has fuzzy alcanterra dashboard not AWD

[@abblepc]

Hey Joe, forgot the dash difference with the Foundation series Cyberbeast or Tri Motor is also the alcantara dash and the 3 headed Cerberus laser etched logo on the tailgate lower right corner and the not easily spotted 3 motor variant.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

This was comparing two AWD Cybertrucks do I did not include the Cyberbeast differences

[@Eric-xp1kl]

I'm wondering if the build quality has improved over time. Tesla normally continuously improves, so maybe the Non-F is put together somewhat better?

[@tcellucci9999]

Excellent video, keep up the great work. For us CT owners up here in upstate New York, where there are few CTs driving around, I have to schedule at least an extra half an hour for any local trips around here to answer all of the questions I get about "what the heaven are you driving". So I decided to list them on a card that I give out if I'm in a hurry, here it is: Cybertruck 30 minute dissertation short form; My 7th and last truck (previous daily drivers, all 4x4 Toyotas starting with the 1979 SR5, last Tundra, a 2014 had 220,000 miles on it), love this beast, is the future, all electric, lightning quick (0-60 2.6 sec), steer by wire progressive steering (full left to right lock 340°), 4 wheel steering (really tight turns), air suspension (17" high setting clearance), regenerative breaking (rarely use breaks), 48 volt low voltage (really small wiring harnesses), Etherloop communication, heavy duty stainless steel body, almost NO maintenance (Tires, wiper blades & fluid is about it), over the air updates, and most importantly gas pickup $60 to drive 250 miles, Cybertruck $15-$19 electricity (400 wH/mile x 250 miles at $.15-$.19/kWh) to drive 250 miles, and Tesla is 10-15 years ahead of everyone else.

[@alex135789]

FSD transfer is huge. Great opportunity for people to transfer their FSD to the new Cybertruck

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@alex135789 👍😎

[@chuongle2280]

Great comparison, thank you. You get a lot of values with the foundation series though. $2500 store credit bigger wheels and fsd included in the price to name few.

[@stuffdo_er]

When these things are fully sorted and time tested these will be some cool $40k used vehicles. That's the market I'm waiting for.

[@TeslaToybox]

Awesome video. Thanks Joe

[@Egad3968]

Nothing like a beast 😊

[@henryD9363]

Very good information thank you! I ordered a non-F cyber truck about 2 weeks ago. I'll trade in my model Y with FSD. When I ordered the Cyber truck I was told that I couldn't transfer the mod Y FSD and would have to pay another $8,000 for the Cyber truck. Me not happy! Since I already paid $6,000 for the model 3 that I first bought, and another $9,000 for the model Y, I had $15,000 into it! Certainly didn't want to pay another $8K. I was pretty much considering that I would cancel the order. Now I see I don't have to. Still don't have a VIN number. And I haven't taken a drive yet. But I have one scheduled for next week! If I really like it I'll go ahead with the purchase. Fingers crossed

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Glad this info and the FSD transfer helps and good luck with the purchase! 📐👍

[@petro-drlg-eng]

Also Tesla has had time to shake out the 1st edition bugs and design proof the trucks, hence ones coming out now should not have as many issues, with wiper motors, accelerator pedals, motor recalls, etc. Have an order for a dual-motor one, but can't yet justify the price since I don't commute to work, have a ranch or farm, etc. So... still dreaming of getting one.

[@Ronnie-d6b]

Can the Non-foundation series do Powershare?

[@pedrosura]

Wow, Tesla must be desperate to bend for a customer like that. That must mean they have discretion and they are just ripping people off.. well done sir!

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Another dumb comment ... another Bot!

[@AdamFrugoli]

What I've learned is that it's a personal thing. I waited and "saved" the $20,000 only to put it down for the Cyber Beast and bought the accessories on Amazon for $300.00. I enjoy driving and get bored with FSD, so it's not essential to me. So for $105,000, I got the big tires and a third motor I'll never use. 😅

[@g600f700]

My daily commute is 15miles, FSD is not needed and the rest accessories is about $300-500 except the tires. $19500 difference between the two versions. No brainer.

[@MikeDudley-b4b]

That would be because of Mr P, as in PROFIT!

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

I used to be neuroactively challenged. I got better…

[@lourdessilva6442]

Sem palavras es um verdadeiro sonho de consumo já conhecimento nos liberta adoro seu trabalho sucesso

[@JetFire9]

Somebody has a new wife! ❤❤❤

[@gsawnv]

Lifetime premium connectivity on FS too. I’m surprised the non-FS version has the 15 speaker audio system.

[@Fluterra]

The back power outlets won’t replace a Generac generator 😂 How many watts can you draw from the rear power outlets??

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@Fluterra I assume you are asking a legitimate question so here you go. Note this is not the PowerShare capability which can power parts of your home since you did not ask. The Tesla Cybertruck features three AC power outlets in its cargo bed: - **Two 120V power outlets** with a combined maximum current draw of 20A. - **One 240V power outlet** rated for a maximum of 40A. This setup allows for a combined maximum power output across all outlets of 10 kW. The 240V outlet can handle up to 40A independently of the 120V outlets.

[@Fluterra]

@ It’s a legitimate question because the owner in the video said this was an alternative to a Generac. Are you sure you can use all 3 outlets at the same time?

[@havnfunb4]

How long does it take to get wheel covers?

[@lesterhousel]

Joe Lester, I noticed both of you have wheel hubs wheel covers and I’ve been waiting seven months and still don’t have mine and I’m serial Vin number 1414. What’s the deal with Tesla in the wheel covers I see they also sell them on the store too for $300, that’s not right. Do you think what do you think?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

I’m still waiting for my wheel covers too and they are not selling them in the Tesla store until all early buyers get their wheel covers.

[@paulchao308]

I was wondering if you got the $7500 tax credit with the dual motor Non Foundation truck? I read (not sure if is true or not) that th dual motor is NOT eligible for the tax credit. This was the deal breaker for me.

[@DB-cu4hn]

It’s not eligible right now. It’ll probably change as soon as you place your order knowing them haha

[@michaelcalmeyerhentschel8304]

You should have made a little chart re the costs contrast and any performance spec differences. this really implies that the lack of the label is hardly any penalty.

[@ryankrause8068]

looks like the wheel covers on his don't overlap the tire. Looks kind of weird not overlapping the tire. Is the larger wheel covers only on the foundation series, or is it just not an option at all?

[@LeeWinkler]

WELLLL>....that "pulling the camper" thing... did you read about the hitch capabilities? That has be backing away from the CT.

[@MBen-f2b]

What about the range difference?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@MBen-f2b seems like it is minimally different and I don’t think it’s an issue

[@TheReal_JG]

​@@JoeTegtmeyeris there a way to know if you have the Gen 1 4680 or the Gen 2? Would you also consider trading your current CT once the dry cathode batteries are in production?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@TheReal_JG all acts have the latest 4680 right now, I expect the DBE version to be in 2025 but Tesla won’t significantly increase range for awhile and no, I would not be willing to trade my Cybertruck because that

[@rollincampbell1]

Thanks Joe!

[@rogerp5816]

How are you two finding the fit and finish?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@rogerp5816 I’ve not had any issues with mine and I did not notice any significant differences between the two.

[@MikeyMantle]

I hear so much about this... my 2023 M3 is perfect looking at it. I'm sure there's something somewhere but everything i see and have experienced has been great with my car.

[@WildernessExcursions]

Isn't there also a difference in range?

[@Dularr]

Need to keep an eye on the junk yards. See if there is any wreaked CT. Pick up the parts for cheap.

[@bryjb10]

Did they mention. The 2500 credit voucher on foundation for options ?

[@poporbit2432]

The gateway also comes with the cybertruck foundation series

[@KrisDelaPena]

Great video and breakdown! Will FSD be a dealbreaker/game changer for those who have not purchased a tesla before?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@KrisDelaPena if you e never purchased a Tesla you won’t have FSD to transfer so a non-issue. Getting FSD is something worth getting and you can do this either as a purchase outright, a $5K drive anywhere package or a monthly subscription

[@DjChadow]

I got my non foundation last week. I couldn’t justify paying an extra $20k for wheels, FSD and some cheap accessories. The FSD will take years to pay for itself and add another $150/year to the registration plus the additional sales tax… The monthly sub will cost much less in the long run. When it’s time to replace the tires, BFG ATs are much better/cheaper than the stock tires. Save the $20k and do some PPF and a powerwall.

[@abstraction21]

Fellow CT owner here. Looks like this was filmed right down the street from me on 281. Great comparison video and congrats on the new CT.

[@peterbsims]

Thanks!

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Welcome! 😎👍

[@QATest4fun]

I ordered my tri motor in October 2020. Waited patiently. I got notice in January this year...but I'm living in Thailand...so I paid the 1,000 reservation (non-refundable,) and told them I would be back to the US in a year or so...and got assurances from multiple Tesla employees that that would be fine. I then got my order cancelled in October (1100 bucks gone.) Tracking through the miscomm, I found that the Tesla app HAD given me notice of the imminent cancellation, but failed to deliver that notice because I have a foreign phone number and no messages came through (either the Tesla app OR normal messaging...) Long story short...the 1100 bucks is GONE, Tesla is absolutely zero response to multiple emails and calls (I STILL want my CT...but...) So, heading back stateside in early March...and will take the issue up with a local Tesla outlet when I get back... Tesla is REALLY dropping the ball on customer service and communication, IMHO.

[@TommyRyan]

Dan, concerned that they pushed back on transferring FSD to cybertruck. Any tips to ensure I don’t have issues with the transfer? I went to the press release on Tesla site and don’t see anything about it not being applicable to cybertruck. I am on the same page with you. I will cancel my order if they do not honor the FSD transfer.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@TommyRyan they did not push it back … it is transferable through the end of this quarter.

[@Anthony__420]

I’m a day one reservation holder and I’m passing. I can’t believe a car that cost $80,000 or more doesn’t have Homelink in it or Sirius XM. I’ll stick with my 2024 Model X

[@Arpedk]

Awesome!

[@rollincampbell1]

What a deal!

[@pigman5562]

I'm frustrated with Tesla! I ordered my CyberTruck in June 2020 and was offered the Foundation series, turned it down. I wanted more details about the All wheel drive CyberTruck offered to early reservation holders but You cannot talk to a sales advisor, they DO NOT return voice messages. Everything is pushed to the website... it may be a sign to just let this go!!!!

[@optimagroup11]

Hey Joe, Very informative. How about a Cyberbeast vs. your Foundation Series truck? SoCalFreddy

[@michaelcasino8517]

Now we have free transfer of fsd all im asking is 7500 ev rebate? But i somt wanna br so greedy. Im on my 90 percent decision to buy one tho. Amazing video!!!

[@wayofflow955]

Just test drives the CT today, they said they are not sure about the $7500 tax credit yet. Any one had new information on it?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@wayofflow955 currently the CT does not qualify for the $7500 tax credit for personal use, but it does for business use.

[@hedgefund996]

Awesome Video Salute 🫡, I am awaiting for the side by side drive.

[@lehsu]

I reserved the $39,000 version rear wheel drive CyberTruck with $6K FSD and solar panels 4 years ago. Should I just ask for my $100.00 refund now?

[@DB-cu4hn]

Supposedly RWD is happening early next year. It’ll be $61K, not $39K, but still way cheaper than anything we have so far.

[@chiboyife5456]

They put ugly wheel covers on the Non FS CT

[@iq6840]

Looks like a rough back seat to get into. The door opens where your legs should be.

[@J_N969]

cute couple. thanks for sharing.

[@stephenreese5921]

Motors? 2, 3, 4?

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

2 … both AWD versions

[@sxmolin]

All we need now is for the $7k tax credit for personal vs business.

[@m4rcolm]

Why keep saying the cost is 80k. What sbout taxes fees, etc, real cost is almost 90k cash

[@andreandre1051]

Merci👍👍👍

[@ShotgunAFlyboy]

FSD transfer is kinda fake though. Doing the transfer took the value of FSD out of my trade-in when I did it.

[@medfadlakmedfadlak2288]

Those funny trucks don't make you look younger or smarter.

[@DB-cu4hn]

You keep saying larger wheels lol. They’re both 20” wheels with 35” tires (check both sidewalls). It’s just a slight difference in the wheel design and then all terrains vs all seasons.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

@@DB-cu4hn did you read the text on the screen?

[@bimmergeezer]

Joe, when I asked you how your Cybertruck was doing I didn't expect you to do a complete video to answer me, but thanks.

[@DavidMG99]

👍👍

[@KJSvitko]

Tesla should add the paint and interior options on the Model X for FREE if you buy FSD. This would increase FSD take rate and also increase sales of the Model X. Buy getting the paint and interior options for FREE it keeps the price eligible for the $7500 tax cut.

[@DB-cu4hn]

You get one paid option last I checked. So paint can be that option or wheels or extra seats, but only one thing to still keep it eligible.

[@KJSvitko]

Tesla should lower the price of the Model X enough so that you can select the color exterior and interior you want and not loose the $7500 tax credit. They should do a special "buy FSD and pick your colors for free". Tesla would increase sales, profits and FSD users. FSD income drops to the bottom line.

[@michaelhess4825]

"walk away from a deal" isn't really the same thing as a normal car at a dealer. It's the right choice for many reasons, but it just doesn't carry any value against Tesla since you can't negotiate. What do the kids say these days? "That's not the flex you think it is." Not complaining or anything, just making a point.

[@JoeTegtmeyer]

Welcome

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

Were the matching dad polos planned?😂

[@JPMHavermans]

PUTTING MONEY IN MUSK POCKET AND KNOWING IS THE SAME AS DOING IT YOUR SELF....

[@TheVacationRentalCoach]

you REALLY missed the major differences and the $20k difference is actually $0 when you add it up, sorry guys, redo your math

[@willinguyen1]

You dont get much for that 20k, except you get to jump to front of line.

[@trahar6257]

Yeah it’s a me first fee not actual options

[@kathyfausett9301]

The math? 20 or 40 thousand difference? floor mats and hubcaps but nothing about an extra motor?

[@Fluterra]

The interior still looks so cheap - this is not the interior of a $100K+ car.

[@devinliang]

Hey Joe,this is Hansshow,a popular brand who make Tesla accessories,do you interested in review our Cybertruck accessories?

[@slowhand256]

Nothing I've seen would justify a 20 Thousand dollar price increase, you can get everything that's not on the regular, added after market for a fraction of what their charging on the foundation. Your basically paying 20 grand for the word Foundation on the truck

[@lehsu]

Skip the first 5 minutes if you just want to know the difference.