This Generation Of Tesla Model S Was One Of The Best! Driving A 2017 100D w/ 130,000 Miles

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[@PenningtonFamYT]

I have a unicorn, 2016 Model S P100D refresh with AP3 and MCU upgraded, new cameras running FSD latest build. Unlimited free supercharging, cooled seats, and a sunroof. Never selling.

[@JetFire9]

Even when the battery and drive units fail outsite of warranty?

[@goatmaster3387]

Do you have Ludicris? if so, then its a true unicorn. Still AMAZING even without it though.

[@PenningtonFamYT]

@@goatmaster3387 yes it has Ludacris++

[@skyemalcolm]

Wait cooled seats? What versions had those? I just test drove a 2016 P 75D and I didn’t notice if it had those.

[@goatmaster3387]

@@skyemalcolm they are a very rare option. Tesla was not consistent in making them available. Some people had the option while others weeks apart didn't.

[@benjochs]

Thanks for making me feel even better about my new purchase! 2017 with only 52k miles.

[@stephenstill9487]

I have a 2018 Tesla S with 130,000 miles. All has been great. The only unexpected maintenance is broken door handle retractor motor (ice storm in Buffalo). I've lost about 10% battery capacity -- but seems normal for the miles. Free supercharging for life is sweet.

[@auxkiniv1252]

Have you noticed a difference wit your battery? Do you regret not getting a model 3 performance over the s? I’m thinking of getting a 2017 model s p100d with 20k miles over a model 3 performance but I’m very skeptical

[@g.pearson4726]

Thank you for sharing this. I didn’t know that year had lifetime free supercharging

[@kevin35083]

Cool to see you revisit this car. The road trip in this car you did was my first video of yours and in essence got me to buy my 2016 MS 75 (only though). And 101,000 miles later in 2 years it’s been great. Best upgrade was MCU2.

[@bam111965]

MCU2 upgrade made all the difference in the world to me. I missed a turn on a highway with the old one because it took so long to refresh itself.

[@macronato]

I have a 2014 P85D, and it has been a little bit of an adventure - many of the front suspension parts wore out (struts, 1/2 shafts, and more), and I did the MCU2 upgrade, but I must say… the Recaro seats really are fantastic, the sunroof is lovely, and the whole experience does feel like a $120k car, rather than a $60k one. Whew! I’m not sure if I’ll trade it soon, but what a cool product. Perhaps a Lucid is next? 😮😊❤

[@JoshHeffner]

This era of Model S was truly the peak in quality. The Ravens might be the absolute best. You can snag a 16-18 refresh Ludicrous S for less than half the price of a new one. A much better value IMO. There are a few common issues like the MCU upgrade and air suspension, but nothing that I would consider a dealbreaker. The max charge speed on the pre-Raven models is around 155kW, so that is the biggest pain point if you're a big road tripper. The 100 pack is still much better than the 85/90 when it comes to degradation.

[@gregpugh2601]

I have watched all your videos with your old model s. I loved that car. Really made me fall in love with Ev / Teslas. I am a frugal person. Always looking for a deal. Never like to pay max pay for anything. I just bought less than a month ago a 12/17 model s 100D. 39,000 miles. Fully upgraded to HW3 and MCU2. New seats premium upgraded. It was a salvaged title out of Texas and bought in Omaha Nebraska. It was brought through high voltage testing at Tesla and passed before I bought it. When I saw it I just thought about would Kyle buy this. Am I crazy buying this salvaged. I got a really good deal on it. Far less anything comparable than I could find. I keep telling my wife that this car is teslas sweet spot. I had to jump on it even though it had a salvaged titles. I researched the wreck and it was really just light front end damage no air bags deployed. Sill has tires and wheels from the wreck with no damage. I just found this video talking about these model s’s. It was 38k out the door no dealer fees. I feel like that is a good deal. Any thoughts @outofspec

[@cods41]

I just side by side supercharged a '18 MX and '23 MY. I was taking both cars to 100%. The MX was at 80%, and the MY was at 30%. The MY took 30 mins and the MX took 45mins.😲

[@TheLinkinc]

Did the same MCU2 upgrade: the snappiness is very appreciated and it was also a requirement for the waypoint navigation which is very useful for me. Recommended!

[@JosephHowes2003]

I have a 2020 Model 3 Performance but it was in an accident last year so I got a loaner S of this style for a month. I liked it a lot. It's obviously more luxurious than my car but I prefer the way mine drives and the simplicity of the controls and screen versus the S.

[@MrGonzonator]

Just bought a mid 2018 100D, looks very similar but has the mcu2, autopilot 2.5 one of the last to still have the sunroof. Price in UK was under £25k. Bargain for such a great vehicle. Unfortunately, it also has the factory 21" turbines, lovely to look at but suffered a blow out on the way home with it! 9hrs in a layby waiting for recovery because Tesla don't do spares 😂.

[@yystl]

I switched to crossclimate 2 on my hybrid and saw significant reduction in efficiency.

[@rambo4war]

For a mid 2 second car I will take it and all it’s headaches. Looking at a 30k one today, cramming review videos so I know what to look for.

[@jacobmaz8157]

Sooooo I have a 4-5 month old Tesla Model Y Performance, and when going over uneven terrain such as turning into someone’s driveway that’s higher or lower than the road, so the whole car kinda twists like a twizzler, I hear creeks and basically just hear the car flexing, I kinda thought that was normal? That maybe every car did this but you can’t really hear it cause the engine, or maybe cause my car is new and things should get loosened up, then I hear my seat creeking if I move my body around to get comfortable and that was just painful to buy such an expensive car, and to hear that, absolutely crushing, and I not once thought THAT was normal, but I did expect it to either go away as again I loosen up the seat so to speak, or go away as we start to get out of winter, along with the other sounds of the car, things being hot and more easily moving hopefully fixes all my noises, at least the seat please, anyway, what I’m trying to say is, the car flexing sounds aren’t normal? Should be solid as can be with not a single creek? Should I send it in to get fixed or will I be told it’s within speck?

[@navtown]

Kyle wrecked his Model S Plaid and now complains of rattles? 🤣

[@Chuk13838]

😂

[@SoCalVipers]

My P85D was almost perfect. I loved the Recaro seats, and nappa leather everywhere. Even though my Plaid feels a little cheap in comparison, it's a lot smoother on the freeway and I really like the interior design - I just wish the interior were of better materials and put together better. I do miss the radar cruise control - it was nearly flawless.

[@MichaelKirven]

I noticed the sunshades and cargo cover were pretty flimsy in the refresh. At least the passenger has power lumbar support.

[@adamchoi8136]

Dave really made out with the deal. Carmax really upheld the brand with that transaction.

[@impressize]

I have unicorn 2017 S90D unlimited supercharging, FSD, MCU2, next generation seats with heat and cool, free premium connectivity, sun roof and only 65K miles.

[@BusTrainsGuy18]

Tesla before than was better, I don't think so now hearing how they've finally figured out the stupid design flaw of the yoke steering wheel was dangerous and not meeting up to road standards for other countries and now has options for the simple traditional steering wheel which is what I like to see.

[@SpottedSharks]

I liked the yoke fine when I first got an X, but after a long road trip I freaking love it. Never going without one again. A yoke would likely be problematic if you like performance driving, but I never do that. Overall, the anti-yoke hysteria is way, way overblown.

[@BusTrainsGuy18]

@@SpottedSharks Yeah, the only reason I'm saying its not a good idea is because I live in the UK where people can't drive properly without a traditional steering wheel, and certain countries that's in the EU won't allow it so I prefer to stick to what I think makes sense I get what your saying but you live in the US which makes sense over here we prefer less problems and less accidents to be honest which is why I'm glad Tesla has come down to earth to see the reason that the yoke has caused problems for some people.

[@johnpoldo8817]

I loved my 2017 blue model S 75. But the only way to get many new features was to trade in for a 2021 refresh. No rattles in mine.

[@bam111965]

Thanks! I have a 2105 P85D and I like it better than the brand new Model S that I test drove last week. I sometimes wonder if I might like the P100D a little better, or perhaps a 2020 model with the faster supercharging. I would like to turn my 30-40 minute charging sessions on a road trip into 15 minutes sessions. What's the ride of the 2020s like compared to the 2015-2018 cars?

[@martymar7465]

I have 3 electric cars at home my kids when we are about to choose what car we are going with they preferring modesl 2016 facelift S 90 D even those two cars are much younger

[@TheDrivenDave]

Cool review. I sometimes wonder if I should have looked for one of these instead of my model 3. I like the idea of a bigger more luxurious car for my long drives.

[@Superman-xr1oh]

I just can't get over the screen orientation though. It doesn't compare to the current landscape view. Otherwise, I'd probably buy one.

[@kens97sto171]

Even though the car is much larger, the interior is not really that much larger for seating area. Trunk is bigger. The Model 3 is probably quicker, and handles better. The S probably rides better with air suspension. You can get a nice Used Model 3 for the same price, get newer tech in the car.

[@TheDrivenDave]

Ultimately those are the reasons I got my ‘22 Model 3. Good car, but I always wonder…😂

[@birtalanlorant5572]

Certainly my car in about 5-6 years is going to be a 2017 P100D. By then they should fall to about 25-30k price-wise, it would mean an additional ~450HP compared to my hybrid q50, and while a step down in build quality, its just plain quicker 😂

[@PeteLewton]

Do you find road trips a lot more comfortable in a Model S vs Model 3?

[@The1andonlyBYack]

Would love to see a similar video with a Raven MSLR+ or MSLR+ from 2019-2020. I have a 2020 MSLR+, if you’re in MN let me know and I could arrange a drive.

[@antoinepageau8336]

In my area you can buy a new model 3 RWD for less money than a used 100D. Doesn't make any sense.

[@johnm2879]

Air suspension repair costs scare me. How do these systems hold up.

[@hcjpbluesky9916]

They come out of wrecks and swap in @~$2000ea, if you DIY. No different than Mercedes experience, FBOW.

[@joeyhardy2673]

I would have told him he was "Out of Spec" trying to go pickup my new car. I want to be the first one to drive it.

[@3030hp]

lovely Model S!

[@ZekeMagnum]

So you can come to almost a complete stop with the regen, but have to apply brakes to stop 100%?

[@DrMJBull]

What tires do you recomend for best range on the Model S? I respect your expert opinions!

[@jonc2276]

What are your opinions on a 2014 Tesla model s 60 rwd

[@jackgreenstalk777]

Mines named Tami-Lynn 😂

[@MartinGalway]

If I was to sell my original 2013 P85, I would get a 2019 Raven Model S... nicer ride. The only issue is they're all out of warranty, or about to be. (but then... 2017's are definitely all out of warranty)

[@MichaelKirven]

The battery and drive train unit in the 2017 cars had 8 years, unlimited miles. Just keep some money in the bank.

[@MartinGalway]

@@MichaelKirven true

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

I love fun stories!

[@walkerb1734]

Kyle…need your expertise here! I have a Model S with Sirius XM. I have a bunch of channels added to my ‘favorites’ screen. However when I select one of the channels it takes me to ‘related channels’ instead of staying on a screen where all my favorites are displayed. Any idea how to keep the favorites constantly displayed for easier selection? I’ve not been able to get an answer to that issue so I thought i’d ask you. Thanks in advance for the help!

[@hjgolfman]

Mine does the same, definitely not the best UX, particularly since when you go back to your favorites it doesn’t take you back to where you had previously scrolled to before selecting a channel, takes you to the very top.

[@xsleep1]

There was a recall on the 1st gen MCU because of their failures. I replaced one in my 2013 MS for which I was later reimbursed. Did the owner of this get the money from the recall? My second one had the yellowing around the edge of the display which Tesla took care of by (I think) hitting it with a UV light for some hours. I replaced my 2013 with a 2020 MS Long Range (Raven). Still very tight with no squeaks/rattles. Could the noises yours is making be because it's a Plaid with different bushings? Also, does this 2017 still have free lifetime Supercharging?

[@Davidg1940]

had a 2018 model s 100d, now have the 2021 model s.. 2018 had a sun roof, software that is extra and unlimited software, sorry I sold the 2018 and bought the 2021

[@TheoPhilpot]

Cross climate 2 are superb tires but range is definitely the drawback

[@michaelcorvin5891]

I got to drive my Friends Tesla Model 3 and X I wish I had the money to own one

[@pumpuppthevolume]

hmm 64k ...I think your dad was saying 75k ....I must have missed that ...that's a massive difference from the 90 something he payed for driving it a short distance

[@cxzb]

Your great grandfather would be ashamed of you.

[@MrButtons252]

Complaining about charging speeds... meanwhile the fastest ive ever seen my bolt or new ariya charge is 55kw...

[@JosephHowes2003]

How often to you fast charge? My brother has a Bolt. He seems to love it but only for regular daily driving. I have a Model 3. That's great for long trips with the Supercharger network.

[@bartwaggoner2000]

Falling apart seems a bit histrionic

[@stridencesuppressor]

I have a 2017 MS 75 RWD, MCU2, FSD, CCS enabled, free supercharging, free premium connectivity, 76k miles, and mostly charged at home. Best car I've ever owned, solid as a rock, no creaks or rattles. Range has only dropped 6 miles. Thx for posting this.

[@ChamaeleonMustermann]

Gen2 MS-75 are said to be the best batteries in the series. From a durability point of view. Good luck.

[@dominicparisi-d8k]

Just picked up a November 2016 Model S refresh. It has 166,000 miles, sunroof, leather 90D. Cost? $15,500 less $4000.00 federal tax credit. Final cost $11,500. Car runs and drives like new. Getting rid of my 2019 M3P. Fantastic car!!

[@johnlocke3481]

Free supercharging?

[@torocars9227]

Look for owners with upper end 200,000 miles. Interested to hear ownership experience of tsla early adopter owners. Great data on video nonetheless.

[@matthewp1682]

I got my model s brand new in 2015. Still have it. Great car, tesla truly was a different company back then, not to say theyre worse now but when they just started out they were amazing!

[@Cornelius87]

​@@matthewp1682that's only like 7 years ago. As someone who always buys used cars something that keeps me on the fence about EVs is when I hear owners talk about their rather new car as if it was old.

[@matthewp1682]

@@Cornelius87 True, but the first model s was only 12 years ago, so at best someone could have an 11 year old ev, we wont know how theyll be after 30 years because they havent been around that long yet

[@hcjpbluesky9916]

Have '15 and '16 MS's. Uncanny how little work needed, beyond practice at door handles, rusting steering knuckles (both in north) and patience with "updates".

[@mwolrich]

still driving my 11 year old 2012 Tesla Model S, 115,000 miles, about %10 battery degradation, just went on a 7,000 mile round trip across the country and back, free SuperCharging for life 😂✅ My Teslas name is “Tessie” 😁😊

[@tonyn3227]

Nice, driving for free cannot be beat. My daughter has 2013 version and free supcharging for life.

[@ShawnSonnentag]

I also have a 2017 S 100D. Currently 162,000 miles. It has no creaks or rattles either. Great car, and free supercharging.

[@TayTheEmpath]

All of them have free super chargers ?

[@tarickaskani3396]

Is the free charging associated with year and model or VIN?

[@degitalweb]

Let me know if u want to sell your model s n if supercharging is transferable. Hmu

[@schubeedoo9097]

You are absolutely right! Love to hear someone actually sharing my exact opinion. I test drove the 2023 Model S 5 times and just could not fall in love with them. They are making loud road noise, the horizontal display is showing everything too small and the car is rattling. The LR version has louder motor whining noise than the Plaid. I have that Holy Grail version of 12/2016 Model With everything on it, Recaro seats, Sunroof, FreeSuC, AP3, MCU2 and CCS in solid white. Feels so much more premium, very silent with NO road noise. Still loving it after 170k miles.

[@brandenflasch]

I love that a round steering wheel and stalks are worthy of being called out

[@STEVEF777]

Last November I bought a 2019 Raven Model X with 30K miles from Tesla which came with FSD. Worth getting that year for 1 pedal driving and HW3. I really like the vertical screen as it is more recessed and having a round wheel and stalks. Love the car.

[@FordGranada75]

I'm driving a Model S 75D from 2017 which I gave the MCU2-upgrade and AP3-hardware. The battery has around 14-15% of degradation at 150.000miles. I just love the car, it drives great!

[@3030hp]

I own a Tesla Model S Performance w/ Ludicrous+ and fully optioned out. Rarely drove it during past year and now daily driving it and wow. What a machine.

[@josemachin425]

I just got a 2016 S P90D L+, with 120k miles (30 days ago) and it drives like a dream! Only finance 21k, price was 24K. Beside the doors handle malfunction, everything else pretty much perfect! Aligned it myself really quickly with 2 wrenches and a bit of patience. Saved $200 bucks!😂. Last night, I changed the battery setting to "Ideal" come to find out, my range is 296 miles to 100% and I am getting pretty much a mile per mile drive when driving at speed limit! Pretty impressive because I was getting also a mile per mile driven with default setting but my range was only 236 miles!! After 8 years old to be able to say I can almost get 300 miles range, (When driven decently) is more than impressive!! Not to mentioned, 110 degree weather!!

[@SM-rn3xy]

I remember this car from the first video where you picked it up, it was about the time I got my Model 3 and it taught me the Kyle Conner road tripping style - run it low then charge until it tapers. Great advice that has served me well.

[@shou635]

I have the same year model S with the same cross climate tires. Yes, range takes a hit but I like how good the traction is. I prefer good traction over some loss of range. And since I have free supercharging, I care less about the reduction of range. I have 95k miles on mine with about 7% degradation. Have sun roof silver. FSD for 5k and ventilated same seats. Leather. MCU2 upgraded. Upgraded cameras. Got it with all the upgrades (except for 3rd row seats). Still get about 140kw. Had it all over the US and Canada. Great road trip car. Yes charging isn’t as quick but the new cars charge too quick for me. I prefer to take a lunch break when stopping. Love it.

[@DrMJBull]

I run the Cross Climate 2s, not for range, but for their outstanding wet tire performance here in South Florida, and also they seem to hold up for at least 20k miles, which is pretty good for a Model S

[@dougowt]

I have an early 2016 85D, currently covered just shy of 240,000 miles. All original main components. No rattles, great to drive. It has the CCS upgrade (previous owner) and I've just fitted the MCU2 and screens upgrade. Not the fastest to charge but pretty efficient. I've been very happy with it so far.

[@rayb1613]

Is the mcu2 upgrade worth it?..still have Mcu 1 in my 2014

[@dougowt]

@@rayb1613 I think so. I was having trouble downloading the latest maps and my screen was leaking. So I decided it was time to upgrade. It does work well and even the reverse camera is much clearer. I’m using radio apps on my phone which works ok. I’ll see how that goes long term. It’s another £400+ to keep the radio

[@zoest9343]

Hi there, I’m currently looking to buy one w free Supercharging, ima use it for Uber w 20k on the dash currently. Almost new, is the battery still ok after all those miles??? I plan to use it as a work horse 🐎

[@dougowt]

@@zoest9343 yes all major parts are original. 90% charge gets 210-220 miles. If you are using for business, be aware the older cars don’t charge as quickly as the later models

[@zoest9343]

@@dougowt got chu. I have a Second more important valuable question! This 2016 is going for $42k via Kelly Blue book. The Dealership hasn’t put a price on it yet, but it says that on their online ad “ Market Value $42k n sum change “ - I’m paraphrasing here *. That being said. I looked at a 2019 Model S 100D w same amount of miles for $55k. My question is, What would be a correct price to pay for the 2016 model? They are both flawless, but I feel like the dealer is going to want $50k for the car… When I could get a 2019 model for $55k. ( Ps most these dealers don’t have a clue about all the features difference and how it affects a Teslas Value! ). My question is, can I use that to rough em down back down to the lower $40s range, and if so How would I use this info against them?. a 2016 and 2019 model have substantially major Changes! in their features, such as you said CHARGING, Computer screen and Performance!! Plz I would appreciate your advise. I’ll rather pay $40k for a used Tesla w free supercharging for life then any new EV in the market. Sorry for asking so many questions, I just know 90% dealerships don’t have a clue on pricing a Tesla Correctly.! - Again Apologies for the Edit! I have a billion questions 😓 but rather focus on the important ones first.

[@HarveyPayne]

It’s just about like you’re sitting in our 2017 X100D. Same black interior, same carbon fiber trim, but outside ours is dark gray. 105k miles and we bought it new. Free supercharging, 72 amp onboard charger, FSD Beta, MCU2 upgrade. About 8% battery degradation. We home charge when at home but road trip a lot and sometimes pull a camp trailer. I’m not afraid to explore off-road with it (SUV, right?) Love love love it. No, our car is not for sale. See me in another 5-7 years. I’ll think about it. Still looking to add Rivian max pack or CyberTruck to use as our tow vehicle for more range. We’ll still keep the X.

[@OurTeslaModelXJourney]

That's awesome!

[@youtubeaccount9808]

What I really like about this generation Tesla Model S is a sunroof that opens. On a beautiful day, such a nice feeling to have a large sunroof that opens.

[@tesos2866]

Thats one reason I am keeping mine, I always use the sunroof

[@Rich1Rodriguez]

Wheels are round, steering wheels should be round as well. Charge on!

[@4035andrew]

I had the Michelin CROSS CLIMATE 2s on my 2015 Chevy Volt, I took a 15 - 20% range loss. Insanely quiet, and excellent In the rain and snow... But I had to sell them because of that range hit.

[@simonthebroken9691]

Thanks. It would be really helpful to see a true cost of ownership. Every dollar spent.

[@ElMistroFeroz]

This video is partially responsible for me buying this exact model with 80K miles last week. This is my first EV. I've owned several sports cars, from Mustangs go Porsches. This thing is on a whole different level, by far.

[@ulfw]

Tesla and it's infamous quality. Old awful, new awful, medium gen great. ...

[@JohnGijbels]

Great vid. Have a 100D dec2018 build with now only 35000mls due to corona and homeworking. The lease is coming to end dec2023. Really like the new ones too, but think I will just buy mine off and drive it another 3 to 4 years. It’s a Silver Metallic a color no longer available in full option on Arachnid with sunroof, FSD etc.

[@LPerezDancer]

I just bought a 12/16 P100D (so, basically a 2017) and I love it

[@mj42kramer]

I love the steering wheel, the stalks, the display in front of the steering wheel, and the, what look like, manually adjustable vents.

[@SoCalVipers]

it's the car of the future! haha

[@stanleyfung5529]

That road trip was my first out of spec motoring experience. I've been hooked since. It's been great watching how the channel(s) have grown over the years. Kyle and team do great work and are affecting the industry for the better.

[@johnmerryman1825]

I have a 2016.5 (refresh) 75D and have loved it. I don't understand why Tesla won't give up on the stupid yoke without stalks and put more emphasis on interior materials and quality. I also prefer the opening moonroof that I have, versus the fixed glass roof on the new models. Such a shame to see them squander their lead.

[@briank9354]

They gave up on it , they offer a normal wheel and people who were forced to get it is offering a retrofit

[@rickhouten1622]

Interesting to hear “great build quality” even associated with a model s. I’ve seen and heard common problems like panels coming lose way more often. Though for the most other part no one has complained about the car breaking down.

[@zyxlsy]

The most stupid part is that Tesla has been making SnXs less premium, but the fanboys kept pushing the idea that those cost-cutting non-senses are more premium.

[@MichaelKirven]

Have a 17 S 100D with FSD purchased from Tesla back in December 2020 with 41,000. Upgraded to MCU2, and it's like a new car. Drove a new S and you can tell where Tesla cut corners to save weight. I did like the swivel screen function. Suggest Chris try the Pirelli PZero All Season Plus Elect tires. Super quiet, and appear to have good tread life so far. The nice thing about the OG S is the 19 inch tires are all the same size, and are more reasonably priced when time to replace. Kyle, tell your Dad that I feel his pain when taking the hit on his S at Carmax...

[@bam111965]

I agree 100% I have a 15 P85D and have the same experience. The Pirelli PZeros were the final piece of the puzzle the make the car ride like a quiet dream.

[@BryceLovesTech]

I love my 2013 with MCU2, 160,000 with original battery and no squeaks

[@magnusjohansson5383]

My P85 2014 is better built than my P100D late 2016, also i just hate the dual motor drive unit play between the motors when using the gas pedal on and off, just horrible to drive compared to the P85

[@magnusjohansson5383]

RWD is more relaxing to drive

[@incognitotorpedo42]

I have a 2017 60D, and have noticed no problem with the dual motor setup. It's very smooth.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Me too on 2014 P85 now 127,000 uk miles since new in 2015. Just so nice to drive and quick too 0-60 in 4 seconds and pin sharp steering. Ive driven all the Teslas get back in mine and the rest feel like the cheap seats. I specked sunroof delete so there is just a lightweight black panel up there.I have rare twin chargers so fast 22kWh A/C charge when available/needed. Took the plunge and spent $$ on MCU2 and 4x v2.5 door handles. Cant see ill ever get rid of my Pearl white / black 19" wheels free supercharging P85......... these RWDs MS are the well kept secret in the Tesla world.

[@mikimiki195]

When did Tesla upgrade MCU I’m looking into buying used Model S I like to pick best year

[@GTStrane]

I'm mixed on these, love the old gauge cluster with those widgets and kW reading, but I do not prefer portrait at all, I think landscape is the way to go. I don't understand why the quality went down so much, from my understanding it's the same production line in Fremont making these so what happened? I'm torn on the stalks and wheel, I think the new interior looks better but might be a bit less functional.

[@ChaimLoecher]

I remember the video... great follow up

[@soothingrelaxingmeditation3129]

it sure as hell better be in good shape at 6 years. Otherwise it would be a POS.

[@danielstillingdff1282]

I have a 15 85, single motor. 150k miles, drives like new. Form Scan my Tesla I can see it lost around 9% in the battery. AP1 is simple but never fails. Only drawback is charging speed. One big upside I'd free supercharging for life. I'll keep this until the wheels fall off...

[@joebass5163]

My 2013 S60 with tech package is holding up well mechanically at 157k miles. Hardly any squeaks, no rattles. No sunroof because I didn't want any water leak issues. I bought it from a private owner at 54k miles in 2018 with CPO warranty that transferred over. Battery at full charge shows 173 miles which is about 17% reduction in miles but the car is actually efficient and uses about 282 wh/mi at highway speeds which is 184 miles of range. Of course it's had some issues. Main screen replaced (leaking) - warranty, emmc replaced - warranty, door handle - warranty, rear axle nuts - warranty, 12volt battery x2 -warranty and self replaced, PTC heater replaced diy, door handle harness diy, blend door noise diy, xenon bulb diy, rear gear oil diy. LTE modem Tesla service center. Front stabilizer links diy. Rear drive unit was replaced sometime before I got the car (later revision) and HV battery pack looks original. I've added open pilot comma which is great for lane centering and includes lane changing. No radar cruise but then again I don't have phantom braking issues. Next repair will be lower ball joints.

[@ABM__974]

in my experience, its actually quite the opposite. My 2019 Raven Model X has a TON of rattles and creeks, but not to the point of driving me to sell the car at least. But my dad's 2022 Model S Plaid has no rattles or creeks, which was extremely surprising, even after almost a year of having the car. Our Mercedes S-Class has more rattles and creeks than the Plaid

[@Yachtzeee]

Fun fact the 100D battery pack is cheaper than 85 and 90 packs if purchased brand new from Tesla.

[@happyguyjoaquimpedro]

this exterior look looks like a luxury sedan car. it looks great. ilt looks better than more modern models from Tesla.

[@gethecar]

That screen being in portrait would get on my nerves.

[@JimBronson]

I love these older ones, so much better than the new ones.

[@ani_b]

I agree, I used to own a 2017 Model S and I loved it.

[@FuncleChuck]

Pretty telling that they’ve only gotten worse for 6 years

[@OurTeslaModelXJourney]

Thanks for the shout out! Loved hearing your enthusiasm for this car, and I remember the original S and how much fun you had with it. I made 2 videos last week. One was the top 5 reasons why I won't trade my X, and the other was the top 5 reasons I would...except I refuted all the reasons. Seriously still very happy with the 2017 100D X.

[@sc5102day]

Have you ever heard of Tesla adding a second onboard charger to increase the supercharger charging speed? I have a 2018 75D and the tesla tech said that sometimes he has see 2 48amp onboard charges for customers that do alot of supercharging.

[@allterrainrandy2587]

The on board chargers are for AC charging. Two ac chargers allow the car to charge at 20kW on a high power wall connector instead of 10kW. New cars only have one. Superchargers are DC charging, the chargers are in the supercharger, last I heard there was 12 (but that was back when they were 120 kW). The newer battery tech is what allows the faster supercharging speed.

[@TeslaMojo-Alt]

Owned a 2018 Model S 100D that was the cheapest 'new' from Tesla, $69,100. Unfortunately we were in an accident in it back in November which totaled the poor thing. It was holding up so well, it had only 47,000 miles on it. Although I upgraded to a used 2020 Model S Performance, I still miss the 2018.

[@SMMiles]

fully agree. this is peak tesla

[@StarryTemplar]

Not gonna lie, I believe those Electric car should put those screen into Interior like this one or Lexus, Unlike Tesla Newer just stick a screen lol

Na. The P85+ was. Rear wheel drive, great steering feel, great suspension setup and no autopilot stuff whatsoever. Not even 1.0. And a huge frunk because of the no AWD. I'm a driver's car guy. So actually no Tesla at all is a driver's car. But I think the feel of the Model S P85+ comes closest to at least a sporty GT.

[@thayne559]

My tesla name is Blanca 😁

[@jimdog]

The timing on this video is insane... I've been looking at used 2017 Model S 100D models this week haa haa.

[@andresgarcia5385]

Did you get one?

[@jimdog]

@@andresgarcia5385 I didn't end up pulling the trigger. And now with Ford's announcement about switching to the Tesla connector, I'm torn (in other words, the Mach-E just shot up higher on my list).

[@dangr3957]

Ok I have to say my story. 2016 MS70 facelift rwd. 153k miles around 10% deg on the battery. When was new I been told it’s 221 now it’s 198. Ever since I own it which os almost 3 years, had no further degradation and I got the car with 117k. Consumption is around 250-280. Available battery capacity is 60kv. It’s the best car I ever had. It’s all original parts even the carpet. No tittles ccs adapter enabled. I love the car !😎

[@StarryTemplar]

Assuming this 2017 one charging slow at Super charger?