Over Our Shoulder: 2020 Dodge Charger Scat Pack Stage-2 Installed & Tuned

[@rickscott4717]

CARB EO number applied with care. "Okay, now let's install these long tube headers." lol

[@motivatorlife247]

sounds insane ! ima be an old man with this in my garage only for Sunday drives

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Ha! Totally understood.

[@321jaq]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@Problematicars]

Might as well get a demon 😈

[@Problematicars]

Scat packs are beater cars/daily not a Sunday car

[@jayr1279]

You will own nothing and you will be happy

[@BlackCell29.99]

Nothing like a trustworthy auto shop, great work guys👍🏾 Bro the underside of the car is super clean………..

[@michaelthompson3155]

Sounds amazing I love dodge chargers

[@ScattyLife392]

Absolutely glorious video 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾... this was informative and enjoyable to watch.

[@392CRO]

Starting a build there very soon, stage 3 NA

[@shadowdemon5730]

Love the headers and exhaust.

[@flicksifyr6793]

I would love to see how much gains you would get from a port matched hellcat throttle body and ported 6.4 manifold from mmx. Thats what i have on my car but I’ve never had it dyno’d.

[@ceavalencia4767]

Do you feel a difference over stock? I would like to go that route, but I'm not sure which manifold?

[@Xero.Limitz]

I would like more info on this

[@flicksifyr6793]

@@ceavalencia4767Oh yea big difference from stock. The ported 6.4 manifold is the best out there on the market at the moment. Only intake that offers the long to short runner actuator so you have the smoothest power band. The SRV controller by zautomotive is the easiest way to set it up. You dont need to cut into the injector wire and put in that stupid window switch.

[@flicksifyr6793]

@@Xero.Limitz Im currently running the hellcat throttle body ported to 95mm with the 95mm to 90mm adapter plate. The MMX ported 6.4 intake manifold (the opening is 90mm to match the throttle body adapter plate) The SRV controller by ZAuto to control the runners of the intake. OEM actuator. This is by far the best intake setup for a NA hemi, no doubt in my mind. Before the manifold and throttle body the cars dyno thing from the SRT pages said a peak HP of 424 on a 32° day. After the manifold and throttle body that number was up to 466 on a 32° day. Just over 40hp from just that is pretty dam good IMO. (If that dyno is somewhat accurate)

[@thecoolman101]

The bananas got you my subscription 😂

[@M5skee_joezay]

that open air box is prone to heat soak even with that heat shield. Better option is the hellcat airbox which is fully closed and pulls ambient air directly from outside the car through the inlet tube.

[@seanem7261]

Actually the jlt box is better than the hellcat box , first the filter is bigger . Then the air is pulled from 3 places not just 2 , which would be the front of the car like the hellcat box , the top from the vent on the hood and the bottom from the wheel well. And last the position of the intake air temperature sensor is positioned inside the box which gives a cooler reading than the stock sensor position. So as far as heat soak , the jlt set doesn’t heat soak , it’s within 4-5 degrees of ambient temp when running on a roval road course track on a 105* degree day . It’s a way better design than the hellcat air box , Both in functionality and design .

[@M5skee_joezay]

@@seanem7261 lets put it this way, the hellcat airbox was engineered to feed a 2.4 liter supercharger and a 92mm throttle body. . My 0-100 got 2 tenths of a second faster consistently without a tune. The shops tune those intakes with the hood open which is unrealistic since they are removing all the heat soak you would get in real life, blowing up the numbers of that JLT. I used to have a mopar intake which was same shit as JLT and it got heavy heat soak. Lastly, that JLT doesnt have an inlet tube feeding it air directly from the front of the headlight.. Where in this video did they install this enlighten me pls. Still just breathes from 2 lol

[@seanem7261]

@@M5skee_joezay actually the JLT does pull air from the front , might want to do your research before speaking on what you don’t know, I had them both .

[@pabloaguilera8227]

What’s the number part for those Headers !!! 😱 that car sounds insane!! I’m trying to do the same, I already have the Corsa exhaust…just need the intake & headers and obviously the tune 😂

[@NationalSpeedInc]

We’d be happy to help! Give us a shout: nationalspeedinc.com/contact/

[@salahsalah315able]

Congratulation man you are the king

[@Vffr1]

Clean Charger. No junk, no PepBoys special decals. Triple

[@tiredone8151]

That's one very happy dyno compared to what I've seen. Especially with just those mods.

[@peppilameu3144]

I have a 2022 scat pack only issue with most of these things it voids the warranty. I got a 10yr/100k mile bumper to bumper, 5 year maintenance (oil/tires/battery) and I love that part. Would you happen to have a video on parts I can upgrade my vehicle with? Thank you!

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Hey Peppi, as it turns out, how dealerships handle warranties with aftermarket parts varies greatly from one to the other. It isn't possible to confidently say a certain set of parts would or would not void a warranty as a blanket statement. We have seen several dealerships not even blink twice when it comes to bolt-ons, but that definitely isn't the case at all dealerships.

[@peppilameu3144]

@@NationalSpeedInc, Unfortunately, I kind of figured that determination is concluded on many factors and variables. Thank you for your feedback though.

[@Glxcy_392]

@@peppilameu3144 You can maybe try to see if your dodge dealer does the direct connection thing that dodge offers, with performance parts for our cars without voiding your warranty, I’m not sure if every dealer participates in it or it’s just certain ones, you should look into it

[@hotballer02]

Not it doesn't if u order DC parts from dodge

[@Sky1]

My local dealership has a team that works on custom cars, they said they can do the work. But that is a lot of $$ for a poultry amount of HP gains IMO.

[@TheTrueAnswer]

The thing I really do hate is the rpm range on these stock. I have a 2015, and the rev range just always leaves me wanting something more. It's almost like the car has something squeezing its neck and can't quite get out those high notes.

[@ajtoofly7315]

That’s exactly why Dodge doesn’t do it for me necessarily. They have the sound, the displacement, the looks. They just don’t rev up high enough for me and they also can’t turn as well

[@TheTrueAnswer]

@ajtoofly7315 funny thing is, my brother's PP2 Mustang had a worse turn radius than my challenger. It is nearly impossible to do a uturn in a tight street.

[@ajtoofly7315]

@@TheTrueAnswer lmao I believe it. I have a 2011 mustang and granted it’s a V6 it has a horrible turn radius but the short ass end helps make up for it, the car itself is small in general. I have noticed when making turns if I had a couple more degrees my front end wouldn’t always be causing me to make 2-4 points turns

[@timothyevans114]

Hi, what does a package stage to our stage three cost me? Where are you located? Thanks 😮

[@davidwells2312]

I have a beautiful 2021 octane scat. Just curious what the price range is to have this done? Thanks

[@TRAUMAGAMINGINC]

My unc just got a grey wide body stage 2 his shit pushing 530 he up there with gt350 Shelby

[@scar_392]

Where y’all located? I want mine tuned

[@MorGuitarz]

Loved the 🍌 in the tailpipe reference, lol

[@natesmith777]

What exhaust is better for power/flow? I have a 2022 Durango 392.

[@giovannigonzalez3681]

Hello what is the cost for a set up like that , I have a 15 srt 392 and would like to upgrade to a little more horsepower without breaking the bank

[@DanielRodriguez-jr5xo]

How much would all that be

[@KingSavage96]

Great video guys!!!

[@392_frankie]

Do you need a tune when applying these headers ?

[@fredwilliams7893]

I heard running a 180 degree thermostat is not a good idea. Can you tell me people say that?

[@fartdonkey8290]

As a general rule, the factory temp thermostat is balanced for fuel economy and power, and other things, making it run cooler allows it to make more power, to the detriment of mpg. Does it hurt the engine? That's been up for debate since the beginning of time

[@glleboy2233]

R the headers 1/7/8 and do the oem gaskets come w the headers?

[@mikehawk120]

JLT is a great com0any too.

[@NationalSpeedInc]

They certainly are!

[@CustomMuscleCarAccessories]

Love the banana part 😅

[@L.A-]

How much is the stage 2 kit i got a Cherokee SRT 😮

[@Todaymma]

How would this set up sound with a cam???

[@MrSilentman08]

what does the 180 thermostat do?

[@Acheroncontranydes]

So was the gains with the tune? Or just cold air and an exhaust?

[@NationalSpeedInc]

A combination of all modifications performed. One doesn't necessarily carry all the weight.

[@MKM_RIVAL_]

Where can I get the stage 2 or 3 for my 22 scat pack ?🙏🏽💨

[@nicoh3277]

Nice. Can you Tell me where the typically dip at around 4000 to 4500 RPM has gone? So far i know, it is caused by lo g to short tube Header?

[@GAMRMNTS2]

It’s because the wire duct and conbubbern right

[@GAMRMNTS2]

It’s because the wire duct and conbubbern right

[@louisuhhh_4546]

Hey, for you guys what mods do u need to maximize the power of an 392?

[@NationalSpeedInc]

We recommend checking out our Performance Packages on our website! They will answer a lot of your questions: nationalspeedinc.com/dodge-charger-mopar-performance-modifications/

[@williamrose7184]

A Hellcat…

[@cashthestampede6629]

I need this

[@BigBlockRick-gy6ym]

Ain’t fallin’ for no banana in my tailpipe!

[@Erp_392]

The banana 😂😂

[@NationalSpeedInc]

An important part of any installation!

[@Erp_392]

@@NationalSpeedInc I Love it lol

[@kevinkotrola3856]

What about with E85? Mustang picks up a lot with your flex fuel tune. Does the hemi like the 🌽

[@srtbee5696]

No, they don’t.

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Good call, Kevin! Naturally aspirated 6.4L Hemis do recognize gains from E85, but typically not as strong as the Coyote 5.0Ls.

[@alexander_3923]

@@daxyeonopolus6750 i rather build a 392 hemi with forged internals ect because i got my scat for 37k so yea

[@roronoazoro6578]

@@alexander_3923 year and miles?

[@alexander_3923]

@@roronoazoro6578 2016 scatpack challenger with 45k miles and the total was 37k with tax included

[@mikeenfinger5985]

Where can I get this done?

[@IssaBoaat]

How much hp does stage 2 gives ?

[@carloscruz4181]

29

[@daboulgotti5717]

This thang sound crazy 🤔🤔🤔🔥

[@sy.busy_8613]

I need this done to my car

[@NationalSpeedInc]

We'd be honored! I recommend reaching out to one of our Performance Consultants here: nationalspeedinc.com/contact/

[@amanitveersingh2182]

Did you guys tune the Charger for the AFTER hp gains too?

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Absolutely!

[@rubenflores3291]

I need the info to tune my 2022 charger

[@srt_keith]

Nice 👍🏾👍🏾

[@KennAtripp]

I’m sold! What it work with a 2019 scat tho?👀

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Yes absolutely! Fill out the form on our website and a Performance Consultant will reach out to you! www.nationalspeedinc.com/contact

[@rubenflores3291]

How much does it come out to be?

[@taylorwoods8120]

Anyone have the link the intake? I have a 2020 scat pack

[@rickcarrasco7330]

What the part number for JLT intake for a 2020 challenger scat pack 6.4

[@NationalSpeedInc]

See here: www.sbfilters.com/jlt/mopar/2011-2020-charger-6-4-hemi-intake?variant_id=787

[@GeeLinDo]

I wonder what that would do to the fuel economy 🤔

[@omarestrada1195]

Where can I get this JLT intake with the carb sticker I been trying to get my hands on this

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Hey Omar, we actually stock them for installing our performance packages!

[@ivanbotello1600]

Why they change the thermostat tho? Can anyone explain

[@hemiboy9860]

These cars run really hot stock so that they can pass emissions, put a 180tstat the car will be more consitent and pulls harder due to colder temps

[@brandonUwanawich954]

My 392 with headers cai exhaust is making 473 whp on a factory tune on a sae mustang dyno I went to 3 Differnt dynos same results so it’s not a fluke my trap speed is 117-119 so it makes sense do you know how this is possible? I’m on a factory tune

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Are you confident that is a factory tune?

[@brandonUwanawich954]

@@NationalSpeedInc yes we checked for any porting heads or manifold it was all stock we checked if the car was tuned it’s not I ran a fbo e85 392 beat it by 2 half cars and I ran tuned bolt ons 10r80s beating them after 130 my 60-130 is in mid 10 seconds in 90+ degrees we can’t wrap are head around it I got over 200 videos of races you can check out it doesn’t make sense

[@fartdonkey8290]

​@@brandonUwanawich954your car needs to be in a museum if this is true

[@brandonUwanawich954]

@@fartdonkey8290 it was true after wards I got a custom tune from jay greene and made close to 500whp I was beatin bolt on e85 10r80s by a half a car till 140 I sold it last month though I made like 10k profit

[@infosneakr]

I think if you break them in correctly you get that extra power. I did so I hope so.

[@yuyuyu9029]

Had mine in eco mode lol

[@lucaterohemi6743]

where are you guys located ?

[@NationalSpeedInc]

We have locations in North Carolina and Virginia: nationalspeedinc.com/locations/

[@brandonharris305]

Can you put a supercharger on a 6.4 and if so what kinda gains would be expected

[@ceavalencia4767]

Watched a few videos; stock internals with a hellcat supercharger at 6 psi claimed around 550 rwhp.

[@brandonharris305]

@@ceavalencia4767 really....seems like you would get more power than that

[@ceavalencia4767]

@brandonharris305 not bad before you build it or break it off you ask me

[@jameswhitesell3076]

​@@brandonharris305most scats make 410-430hp, so a 120hp gain is pretty good

[@JohnnyBlaze5680]

Are there any packages for a 2021 challenger scat pack 392 6.4L? I’m not seeking anything for it on the website.

[@alexandrogonzalez1991]

Can you please explain “factory freaks”? How is this possible? And if the factory tune is a freak on one scat, then wouldn’t a custom tune not help it?

[@sy.busy_8613]

Where are you located ?

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Hi! We have a couple locations in Virginia and North Carolina, with more on the way. Check out our website for more information: nationalspeedinc.com/locations/

[@spurgeondotson4998]

Name &# to the shop that did the work please

[@NationalSpeedInc]

This is actually us! National Speed, we have two shops. Feel free to check out both of our locations here: nationalspeedinc.com/locations Richmond, VA: [phone] & Wilmington, NC: [phone]

[@braydenwatts2968]

Remember, 9/10 Air intakes are cosmetic and sound improvements more than anything

[@Xx392sMurfxX]

I have a jlt on a 21 scat and I’m here to tell you it’s not hype my guy jlt is the truth for mopar

[@fartdonkey8290]

​@@Xx392sMurfxXI'll second this, have put jlt on scats and hellcats and it definitely adds a small amount of power, and quicker throttle response, AND sound

[@inv8999]

I think this gain without a tune

[@TheVagitarian18]

30 wheel out of 3 major mods? Lol i got that on my scat with just a 93 octane tune lol

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Peak numbers only tell a part of the story. The biggest change here is in the mid range. Check out the dyno graph at the end, this picked up 56hp and 54tq in the 4200 rpm range.

[@royallogisticstruckingra2766]

donde puedo encontrar su taller para modificar mi scat pack gracias

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Hello, we are located in Wilmington, NC and Richmond, VA. www.nationalspeedinc.com/locations

[@wolfyyybandz]

Where can I get a tune

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Hello! We have shops in both Richmond, VA and Wilmington, NC. Both have AWD DynoJets in ground. Reach out to one of our Performance Consultants here: nationalspeedinc.com/contact/

[@p.l.fanning3447]

The banana for the like! 🤣🥷🏾🍌

[@crazyjoker392]

I have a dodge charger scatpack an want to do a burble tune also a performance an trans tune can you guys do that

[@marlog9105]

Damn near 3k for 50hp my Audi got more than that with a 900$ tune went from 349 to 505

[@CyclonesGB]

banana made me like

[@alexgomez5442]

Where do i get these long tube headers?

[@NationalSpeedInc]

We install them for you! www.nationalspeedinc.com/packages

[@meximikol]

How much is all this? I have a challenger scatpack

[@NationalSpeedInc]

It varies a bit from year, make, model and trim, but I encourage you to reach out to one of our Performance Consultants here: nationalspeedinc.com/contact/ They will be able to answer all of your questions!

[@nygelboyd9725]

Stage 2 increase to 479 HP? My 2022 Dodge Charger Scat Pack comes stock with 485 HP! 🤔

[@MuhammadKhan-pr3fi]

479 to the wheels, 485 is to the crank stock

[@srtbee5696]

That dyno is also running pretty hot. You should expect 420-430 on most dynos stock

[@lowridr2]

Your actually making closer to 420hp to the wheels the motor is rated for 485hp it’s power to spin all the components by the time the power hits the tires you lose about 15% through the drivetrain

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Yeah, as others have commented, your Charger absolutely has 485hp at the engine. By the time that power goes through the drivetrain and is measured at the rear wheels, we normally see 420-440whp for 100% stock vehicles.

[@jerbattmen8143]

Sir you don’t deserve the car you drive if you don’t know that.

[@larrypeterson8710]

I'm gonna guess he's about $6000 deep in the work we saw to pick up 30 hp ?? Not exactly economical but it does sound tits.

[@matty2time]

Ripoff price vs results

[@SpaceGringos3D]

1:29 what….?

[@taz_srt]

Where you located I need those headers install on mines

[@mustangraf]

they make 420wheel stock lol

[@-_Bee]

🚨I'm new to this car world when it comes to dyno readings and things of that nature, so someone help me out and explain this to me. I thought scatpacks had horsepower of 485... so why was the baseline 450hp and the stage 2 was 479hp horsepower? Wouldn't the stage 2 bring the horsepower up by 45hp, which would make the 485hp into 530hp but the stage 2 gave a reading of 479hp. How is that so? Can someone explain that me. Like I said I'm new to this

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Hey Bee! What you are describing is something called "Drivetrain Loss". Think of it this way: It takes energy to move the torque converter, transmission, drive shaft, rear end, wheels/tires etc. All of those parts have mass that requires energy from the engine to move. When you measure the output at the engine, then measure the output at the wheels, that difference is the drivetrain loss. That loss varies greatly from vehicle to vehicle!

[@-_Bee]

@@NationalSpeedInc I really appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. I'm new in this car world when it comes to horsepower and speed. When I commented under your video I done my research and came to the conclusion you just stated. I now understand the stages you offer and how it affects the outcome of your performance. I appreciate it. I'm thinking about getting a scatpack. If I do you'll definitely have a customer in me cause I would definitely want some upgrades for performance. Thanks again

[@tommy_Marauder]

450 stock lol way to manipulate the dyno

[@NationalSpeedInc]

There were no manipulations with the dyno, what are you seeing that makes you think that way?

[@coldasshonky]

@@NationalSpeedInc the fact that you claim a stock 392 made 450 whp lol.

[@tommy_Marauder]

@@NationalSpeedInc nothing to say?

[@alexandrogonzalez1991]

You can manipulate dyno numbers? How? Do shops do this often?

[@coldasshonky]

@@alexandrogonzalez1991 it’s got a computer attached, yes you can manipulate it easily. I don’t think many shops do it, because they know it’ll be found out. Take this case for example, no stock Scat Pack makes 450 to the wheels.

[@matty.f]

The fuq? lol

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Indeed! Couldn't agree more.

[@kathiwalker3723]

well you were wrong from the start! theres no such thing as a SRT scatpack! its a R/T Scatpack

[@NationalSpeedInc]

Good call! Please excuse our incorrect trim description.

[@XdnBlackmag]

It’s an easy mix up for a company that sees 20+ cars a month a maybe a fraction of them are scatpacks. 2018 was the last year for the SRT 392 Scatpack. National speed doesn’t care about the name. They care about tuning your car, and getting paid at the end of the day.

[@kathiwalker3723]

@@XdnBlackmag Again you obviously dont know what your talking about! Scat packs are on the R/T model "powered by" SRT which ALL are even past 2018 The SRT is a model of its own! Scat pack is an R/T with SRT upgrades I know I have a 2018 Destroyer Gray Scat Pack Charger!

[@f8widescat392]

Srt 392 is an accurate description for a Srt 392 engine lmao.

[@XdnBlackmag]

@@kathiwalker3723 I would too. I have a 19 scatpack. But 2018 they stop branding them SRT Scatpacks. Look up any scatpacks before 2018. I bet you somewhere on the car (trunklid) you’ll see SRT

[@TooSmooth.392]

Not worth the money

[@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK]

I owned a Scatpack. Biggest POS ive ever owned! No power, no brakes and horrible suspension smfh

[@NationalSpeedInc]

All of which can be enhanced with aftermarket upgrades :)

[@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK]

@@NationalSpeedInc Yea, a 6.2 motor that will actually hold some power, An 8HP90 trans or 95 and a complete set of coil over. THEN u will need a power adder. Fucking biggest JUNK ive ever owned I swear!

[@l2kxboost]

Can do all the bolt ons you want, and dyno pulls all you want but you cannot tune a 2019 and up without a pcm upgrade. So, this is NOT tuned, just bolt ons.

[@l2kxboost]

Cant tune without a pcm upgrade....

[@alfredorock-flores8480]

It’s not an SRT it’s powered by SRT

[@TooSmooth.392]

That’s a lot of money for 45 wheel HP 😂

[@fartdonkey8290]

They declined to comment on this