WHAT'S WRONG at QATAR AIRWAYS? 15 Hours in the Q Suite... or so I thought

[@scottnichols3685]

Great report, as usual, Patrick. Qatar’s bait-and-switch between the QSuite and these seriously deficient, worn out 1990s style Business seats is outrageous. It’s like booking in at the Ritz Carlton and ending up at the Days Inn.

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

😅 very funny

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well put… ha! Thanks man!

[@MrWardnine]

Agree just been through this on 4 flights last week Real con

[@user-jwill]

The bait and switch thing would’ve infuriated me especially after all that planning and anticipation. I like how you include the entire take off and landing rolls and views from the windows. Most reviewers cut those in favor of the sound of their own voice. Half the fun of flying is the window views which many seem to forget. So I hope you always keep that in. 🙌🙌🙌

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Totally man! Thanks!

[@michaelfavourites6395]

Well said, agree on all counts

[@YUANLINLIANG]

This shows exactly why SQ would still be my No.1 airline 😂😂Just for the simple matter of consistency. Their "worst" regional seats are also the best seats Turkish Airline has to offer at the moment. So if there is ever a plane swap, it could only gets better.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

That’s fair enough. I do love flying with SQ

[@JohnSavoia-d2d]

I've flown the "old" 2x2x2 Biz Class and the Q Suites and to be honest the only drawback is that you have to climb over your neighbor...the Q Suites are tight and you feel more open with the old seats.

[@ScottMatthews-gk8ef]

Kudos to the passenger who kept their window shade open 😎

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

100%!!!

[@k9killer221]

We had an ATC strike in Australia in the late 1980s. My mother's downgrade was from a 737 to an RAAF C-130 with bench seats. Free ear plugs though and box lunch of sandwiches.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Dang… that’s a whole other ballgame

[@EdwardDanielBaldeviano]

When I first saw your IG post promoting this content, I scratched my head in disbelief upon scrolling to the picture of that 2-2-2 business class. I'm really rooting for you to get the updated QSuites, but, in typical Qatar Airways fashion, you were left disappointed. If I can remember, it was Nonstop Dan who compelled the airline's management to implement an airline-wide decree where those who booked for QSuites but got a last-minute equipment swap to a worse plane can change FOR FREE. That kind of perk wouldn't fly if Al Baker was still in-charge, if you know what I mean. Nonetheless, I'm grateful that you were still able to show us the experience of THAT particular business class product, despite having a feeling of disappointment. Not to mention, you even hopped on a rare white QR livery! Speaking of your remark at the end of the video, I haven't experienced any equipment swap on all my flights, and I hope I won't have to deal with one. Back in my first trip to Japan, I was hyping myself by watching the cabin preview of Philippine Airlines' A321neo, but I ended up flying their older, LCC-style, classic A321 en route to Narita and back. I just hope that PAL's refurbishment of all their classic A321s would be as quick as possible, since their new planes might have delayed deliveries in the coming years.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Definitely a bummer to be switched. I was glad to have to option to change my flight, although it was a bit too last minute for me on this one, so I guess I’ll have to see if I can make it work out someday

[@NY.80]

BY FAR the best travel vlogger on KZbin.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! Good to hear it

[@CraziiTiger]

11/10 on the takeoff background music!

[@charlesduran8700]

I flew On Qatars Q suite on their A350 -1000 from Doha - Nairobi and that was an experience you did not have to want for anything . I was Impressed . Now my return flight back to Doha was on Qatar's A330-300 and it was the same as your experience on your trip tp Sao Polo but I had an isle seat in the middle section

[@tekkieman]

Same thing happened to me a year ago from DOH to PHL. People were pissed.

[@qn8307]

Yep, happened to me too DOH-DFW. I suspect they know full well what they're doing with the bait and switch. Unlikely to book these old world rug merchants ever again, darn shame.

[@LinwoodPowell]

⁠@@qn8307”old world rug merchants” that’s funny. The issue is they don’t like to send new planes to smaller markets like DFW and PHL. They only make money when you come to Qatar, not when you leave.

[@lauramckenzie3801]

@@qn8307 When did that happen to you? And how much notice did you receive? What seat configuration did you end up with? I am flying next year DFW-DOH and returning DOH-DFW. Did they offer to let you make a free switch?

[@qn8307]

@@lauramckenzie3801 Hi, that was QR731 in early March 2023. Back then, it was the early flight of two-a-day to DFW marketed as 777 Qsuite when I booked. No offer to switch. The later flight QR 729(?) was always a A350. I got an email couple hours I think before flight time, having flown in from HAN seven hours earlier. I expressed my displeasure to the gate agent printing my new boarding pass, and he just gave me a card with an email where I can file a complaint. Definitely felt like it was something not new to him. Now I think both flights are A350s so would think you are safe. Yep, was pissed off royally and feeling ripped off so swore them off after 16 hours on the 2-2-2 with a plus lady in the aisle seat that I had to step over to get out while she was sprawled out asleep. Never worked up the energy to file a complaint; I've read too many to think that this was anything but unintentional on their part.

[@antjee]

​@@LinwoodPowellgood point

[@gregecker184]

My worst equipment swap was from Munich-San Francisco on United “Polaris” in 2021 of course when I looked at the seat map a couple of days before it was the new Polaris seat. When I get onboard it was the old 2-2-2. Still a good experience but definitely made me mad.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ouch that sucks! At least the product is streamlined with United by now

[@botruong4102]

Thank you Patrick, great vlog as always.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@thepinkpony]

might sound weird but I actually don't mind the older seat! I really like the sense of space around you. The service is the same, Qsuite is great but there is a lot of hard product around you. The new lounge is my favourite !

[@williamavery5322]

Prefer it as it is much easier for your legs. Honestly don't know the issue. If flying as a couple it's much much better and feels like such a spacious cabin. Best flights have been on this old seat.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Definitely not alone in that praise. Just a tough contrast to what was advertised. I do know quite a few people who do like the more open concepts thoigh

[@williamavery5322]

@@PatrickSheaAviation get your point and definitely would look dated by comparison.

[@willw7050]

The problem with Qatar Business, is that their hard-product is too inconsistent. There are 5 different seat-configurations. 1:- The QSuites (773s, A351000s). 2:- The usual reverse-herringbone seats (A380s, 788s, A358). 3:- The Suites seats (789s). 4:- These old 2x2x2 seats (773s, A330s). 5:- The ex -Cathay 773's ,with their own different Biz-class seats. You may get an aircraft swap without much notice!! Thus the product you thought you bought, isn't the product you got. Happened to me a few times😣

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good point. Similar to how I feel about Delta One and their many products as well. At least Delta does far less equipment swaps

[@Tee55118]

EK does the opposite: only two models--A380 and B777. All other aircraft are done by thier discount line FlyDubai.

[@timothyshepodd7826]

My worst equipment swap AMS-SFO. BA took us out of A380 First/Concorde room and put us in United coach - middle of the middle for 12h. Still working on the compensation 3Mo after the flight. Blessings!

[@internationAL21]

My heart goes out to you - that’s a triple downgrade. seriously, BA is just the worst😢

[@internationAL21]

“Lipstick on a pig!”. Ha, love it. I admire the way you handled this downgrade - great stoicism. I flew this BC product from Phuket to Doha. That was fine in 2017 but is unacceptable in 2024. still, it could have been worst and you could have been in Emirates shocking 2-3-2 configuration .

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Dang… that one hurts!

[@raymonandrewkoh7182]

Their menu, their in-flight meals are amazing. Another wonderful vid from you ✈️🌏🎥

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! Definitely a god tier soft product

[@JohnMc1722]

As a gold member with Qatar airways I don't find their meals amazing.

[@LinwoodPowell]

I have an upcoming equipment swap on Egypt Air. I booked JFK to DXB via Cairo. The Cairo to DXB was on a 789 when I booked it but they changed it to an A330 some weeks ago.

[@jimmyjames6492]

Thanks for the info + video!

[@RafaRadityo7]

Uhh you should probably rename the chapter.... Currently it says 'Hamas Airport'

[@cnx5134]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ictoan]

How so

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Sheesh man… good catch…

[@christianbayerstein5243]

it is 🙂

[@Sidthedentist]

Well technically it is…

[@Wolfsgarde]

The Lufthansa Allegris was never planned on the 2.5.. So actually it was not an equipment swap. Because they just had one plane with the new cabin they alternate it between YVR and YYZ.

[@kevin19358]

5:26, Except Bangkok and Istanbul, they don't have train and skytrain, you have to walk from departure hall after security to the gates and it takes more than half an hour to 40 minutes, so you have to arrive in the airport less than 3 hours before the flight if you can.

[@nonstops_aviation]

My grandparents recently flew Qatar from Miami to Bangkok via DOH and they liked it a lot the worst part is that I could've gone but couldn't because I couldn't miss 2 weeks of school without serious consequences. My worst equipment swap would've probably been Spirit swapping my A320neo to a standard A320 like a year ago and I initially was upset about American Airlines swapping my 777-300ER to a 200ER but I soon realized it wasn't a bad thing at all since I was flying economy (which the seats are the exact same) and my seat on the 772 was in better shape than mine in the 77W lol.

[@haraldarendsen9372]

It is even worse. I booked a flight for this december from SIN to AMS via Daho and i especially chooose Qsuites and you have to pay extra for that.. During booking at Qatar website, it is mentioned (so that is at least fair) that Qsuites are not guaranteed and if you do not get Qsuites, you do NOT get the money back I had to pay extra. And that last part is very weird. You pay a little bit extra but when Qatar cannot deliver, you loose your money. I still booked it and i just pray for the best. But still weird way of doing business.

[@sirhotlaps5371]

I suppose the answer to the unasked question is in your comment itself. You were made aware of the nonsense of being asked to pay more, for a product that they won't guarantee and that they won't refund you for if they fail to provide and instead of canceling and flying with SIA or another carrier, you chose to reward that business practice and give them your hard earned money.

[@haraldarendsen9372]

@@sirhotlaps5371 yes i did. You have a problem with that? It is very rare that i can afford buss class and travel so far. Looking at what i could afford and fits in my time table, Qatar was the best option despite their ptractises. Life is not so black and white you make it look. SIA was too expensive. When the choice is there, it will impact my choice.

[@LoganAviation]

I flew from DXB-DOH-DFW-MSP for $2,300 USD back in July, and I was originally scheduled to fly on a Boeing 777-300ER for the DXB-DOH leg. Just before boarding, we were notified of an equipment swap. Now granted, it was an A350-1000 with the QSuites, but it was definitely a surprise. That was my first taste of the Dreaded Qatar Airways equipment swap.

[@ukdavepianoman]

Very frustrating to lose out on Q-suites and finish up in a very old, poor business class seat - especially on a 15 hour flight. Everything else looked great. I know aircraft changes do happen for "operational reasons" as they put it - but they should at least offer some sort of compensation. Very good and informative video.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks! Definitely super frustrating when stuff like this happens. Hopefully my time with the q suites will happen soon enough. You’re spot on that the soft product was still money though

[@res887]

I’m glad I didn’t have a bad equipment swap. In fact, the best swap I had was from UA 788 (28J) to 763 (46J), and I even cleared a CPU on it!

[@allstarpilot777]

Great video and great narration! Appreciate your Arabic pronunciations a lot! You really need to compare this to Turkish airlines. I fly Turkish airlines yearly to anywhere I go internationally and I flew on Qatar once on the 777-200LR as well. If you do end up flying them, try to get a spot on their new business class on their 787 or A350. Inshallah you get to try it! Great vids as always!

[@yvr2002rtw]

Sometimes Qatar Airways switches non-QSuite flights to QSuites just because some Qatari with high wasta decides to go on that flight. In cases like these, the QSuite aircraft would likely be swapped over from a route that has QSuites.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ha that makes me wonder… because the aircraft we were supposed to be on ended up flying more regionally… 🤔🤔🤔

[@yvr2002rtw]

@@PatrickSheaAviation I remember before the days of QSuite I was flying a regional route that was scheduled to be operated by the old 777 with the 2-2-2 seating. At checkin I was told that the aircraft was swapped to a 330-300 with “newer” seats which was still 2-2-2. Once onboard, most of the passengers were local men in traditional clothing.

[@Avgeeks39]

Hiya Patrick, Came to your lovely city of San Francisco and landed back in the UK today!! Absolutely loved it!! My only question - do the locals take the trolleys and cable cars or do they stay away due to tourists?

[@zestd3722]

Solid work and vid! Sucks about the plane change though.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man! Definitely sucks

[@scpatl4now]

You mentioned lots of cities, but Qatar also flies to Atlanta. I was kind of surprised about that.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

They do a great job at reaching major hubs of all airlines… except for Latin America

[@TheOnlyNoIan]

My worst equipment swap was when I was scheduled on a delta a350-900 (in a DL One Suite) and it got downgraded to an a321. Was a domestic flight, but I canceled it anyway.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Sheesh that sucks

[@TheOnlyNoIan]

@@PatrickSheaAviation also have an upcoming united flight that was switched from a 788 to a 739 in Polaris!

[@ahmadzahid266]

I didn’t expect Qatari still using old seats for ultra long whole flight! Some airlines with old seats using for shorter, high density or demand until at least retrofitted with new seats!

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I definitely wouldn’t have imagined they’d even risk this cabin on a flight like this. Looks like it flies to Miami sometimes too. Another flight well over 10 hours

[@gunvaldsandhaland7757]

Great Trip Report And Info

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks!

[@Sydorrah]

What a disappointment. Lipstick on a pig 😂 I agree. I do wish they had to compensate everyone this happens to, maybe then they'd stop since they would lose money. A 2 2 2 on a long haul is downright diabolical. Another great descriptive video

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Honestly their best bet would be to stop advertising the Q Suite to everyone if they can’t offer it on the majority of their routes… plus launch this cabin into the sun

[@philcfc19051]

Worst equipment swap. We were travelling from ORD to SEA back in the day when we had a DC-10 on the run. Day of travel the 10 downgraded to B757. An uncomfortable 4.5 hour flight stuck in the middle seat of 3. Only consolation was a glass of free Champagne (Sparkling Wine) to celebrate Thanks Giving.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Narrow to widebody always sucks… good for some champagne at least!

[@C.D.Hackler]

This equipment change sans Q Suite seems to be a regular thing with Qatar; at least from what I have seen on KZbin the last few years.

[@malpalmer3269]

These 2-2-2 seats should be premium economy really

[@acrichton0]

The saddest equipment swap for me was ANA from ORD to HND. Almost always new first class but my flight was swapped out for old first class. A similar downgrade to yours except in first. I eventually did get to travel in "The Suite" - it was great. Still like Singapore and Etihad A380 first better than ANA, though Qatar first A380 was also really great.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Dang man that totally sucks!

[@simplicated99]

I frequently fly between NYC and Asia for work. I would never fly Qatar just because of the chance of getting equipment swapped. Would rather fly with carriers like ANA, SQ or Emirates.

[@sidhantwadhera159]

earlier this year I was booked on an a330neo on VS upper class from BOS to LHR, but got equipment swapped to their only a330-300 with the weird direct eye contact seats. at least that was a 1-1-1 situation, the 2-2-2- sounds absolutely miserable

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ouch. That sucks…

[@paulkazzer]

Qatar is buying a 25% share in Virgin Australia and wet leasing its aircraft to VA to allow additional Australian services shared with VA. Qatar flies some of the old 777s used on VA’s previous US flights so it will be ironic if they now fly under a VA flight code again. Thanks for a great review.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good info. Thanks!

[@realman6ft6]

Another great video and Patrick wasn’t at all salty about the seat type going to São Paulo….. not at all…😢

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ha… thanks man

[@biralp9317]

The good news is that it will be A350-1000 one flight out of 2; starting this 27 October;

[@melbourneplanespotter3631]

Seems like you've been flying a fair bit in and out of Sao Paulo? Is it due to better award seat availability?

[@YESHIVA2919]

Cheap Qatar fares from Cairo in Business class for $1000 one way.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

SP is cheaper typically, plus it has a ton of fun flights to take in and out

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

The weird, lamp-in-the-head teddy bear is just creepy. It is a great place to meet & take selfies but I still don’t get it. It’s as creepy as the giant blue horse with red eyes at Denver International Airport. I chuckle. P.S. last minute fleet changes happen all of the time.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Last minute aircraft swaps, sure. But it’s a little different when the experience is such a shift. I had United change my aircraft type a week ago but still ended up in the same type of seat. This is a whole experience swap

[@Thesmellofrain-h6o]

@@PatrickSheaAviation Absolutely, however I’ve experienced last minute equipment changes that didn’t have the product that I paid for too.

[@avgaskoolaid4572]

Foul bil Tahini (Fava Beans with Tahini), the Arabic bean dish you had for breakfast is pronounced like "Fool". You pronounced Tahini (sesame paste) right. And the second word is "bil", not 'bin', which basically means "with". "bin" actually means 'son of'. Someone named Ahmad whose father is Mohammad could be called "Ahmad bin Mohammad" for example, so it's like saying "Fava Beans, son of Tahini"! No worries though, the words can be confusing for someone who doesn't speak Arabic and isn't familiar with the dish. I hope you enjoyed it, it's one of my favorite simple breakfasts. If you liked it, you can get it in the US in canned form at any arabic/mediterranean grocery store or sometimes at Indian/South Asian or Eastern European stores.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Good to know! Thanks mate!

[@christianbayerstein5243]

well, that is always the risk you face when an airline does not offer a consistent business class product. Qatar Airways has so many different business class products, the QSuite, the Business Suite in the new Dreamliner, the Super Diamond reverse herringbone , the 2-2-2 Diamond seat, the old minipods you got, the reverse herringbone Cathay Pacific seats and a recliner for short haul. But even the old seats you got are much better than the narrow 2-3-2 sliders in Emirates 777 that make up for 50 % of their fleet. By the way , those old minipods are 180 degree flat, even if you felt a slight angle that is just because the seats are worn out, which is a well known problem of those old minipods. Some airlines fixed that with ottomans for the feet to relieve the seats. 🙂

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Definitely always a risk. Sucks when there’s this much of a contrast however. Definitely in their best interest to streamline the experience a bit more

[@stone5048]

People rave about Hamad airport but it’s pretty awful for economy passengers in transit

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Honestly I’ve still enjoyed my economy layovers there as long as they’re only a few hours. I can kill time in the garden or grab some food and watch out the window

[@stone5048]

@@PatrickSheaAviation awful may be a bit harsh but only a bit. It’s not old LGA for example but it’s definitely not “best in the world.” Doubleso if you’re dealing with double bus gates

[@neilcharles2520]

Fish egg is something i could never get used to,a friend of mine owned a Caviar store on Madison Ave,NYC back in the 70's 80's and i tried the most expensive caviar from Iran a few times but could never get to like it,and it was all for free..No more Krug Champagne served on Qatar?

[@ianhamilton396]

The Bait and Switch is obviously standard business procedure. Ask Josh Cahill.

[@qAr1a]

I had been Qatared several times but didn't matter much as i did not pay myself but yeah, it felt like QR is intentionally misleading passengers and charging premium price for those supposedly qsuite flights and then rerouting them somewhere else.

[@michaelj3282]

I live near Dubai, and I refuse to pay EKs prices (and I used to work for them), won't be ripped off, so if I go to Europe, the USA or Asia for example, I fly Oman Air or Qatar, cheaper and better and so what if it's an extra 2 hours.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Interesting. I still haven’t flown Oman Air, but they got me curious for sure

[@davenorth2903]

Last time I did Dallas to Doha they did an equipment switch on me. Crew were great but the hard product was pretty awful for the price. Great review.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Sounds about right for the average QR experience. Thanks!

[@lauramckenzie3801]

When did that happen to you? What seat configuration did you end up on? Did they offer to let you switch for free? Like perhaps change to the next day's flight?

[@davenorth2903]

@@lauramckenzie3801 - They switched me from QSuite to the old 2 x 2 x 2. No option to change to the next day.

[@tasneemeddoo]

Got Patrick Shea saying inshallah before gta 6

[@franciscogutierrez3768]

Nice trip review on how Qatar connects Brazil and South America with Asia. Too bad about the equipment change.

[@LeoTravellerBR]

Correction: There is no Indian diaspora in Brazil. But the biggest Lebanese diaspora.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I’ve seen some large groups of Indians in Brazil, but the Lebanese diaspora is interesting!

[@maxdee1820]

Great video! My flight from Manila to Doha changed equipment twice but I ended up in a q-suite! Just curious, what kind of passengers are flying São Paulo/Doha? Are they mostly those connecting to Japan/China?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Dang! At least you ended up with the q suite after the ordeal. Idk about the normal loads on this flight, but this one seemed to be about 2/3 or more connecting from China and Japan

[@kevin19358]

29:52, Indigo, Airbus A320neo from Mumbai to Singapore that I flew for the 1st time last July, 90% full, we departed and arrive on time, flight okay, 5 and a half hours on the longest Airbus A320neo, the crew is nice and okay, but unfortunately, no online check in (only domestic flights have online check in I think) it's very bumpy in the Bay of Bengal that lasted 2 hours because of bad weather, no streaming to my own device (In flight entertainment), no USB port (Cebu Pacific, Airbus A330-900neo have USB port, which is good on a long haul flight to Sydney, Melbourne and Dubai.) and no universal power outlet and no wifi. Originally I was looking forward to fly Indigo, Airbus A321neo from Mumbai to Singapore, but swap to Airbus A320neo, I was a little disappointed, but I cannot believe this is my 1st time that I flew the longest Airbus A320neo that can fly for 5 and a half hours, wow.

[@JUVI9596]

You did a tri continental flight. Asia, over Africa to South America 😊

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Ha, yes! What a way to see the world….

[@JUVI9596]

@@PatrickSheaAviation I did the shortest one a few years ago. Istanbul to Cairo. Istanbul is in Europe, you fly over Mainland Turkey in Asia to Cairo in Africa

[@silverkijh]

Qatared. Sorry about that. Great video as always. 👍🏻

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks man

[@stevene465]

Great video Patrick as usual, they’ve done this to me several times and I hate it !!!!! They will never respond to you ( well maybe you ) as I had actually paid for Qsuite seat allocations for my entire family- I’ve never received a refund so I’m done with them until they get their act together- how premium is that route it looked empty in J ?

[@lostmymag]

Even more ridiculous Qatar announced an update to their qsuite to qsuite next gen, when their entire fleet isn't even on the current product yet.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I too was surprised by that… all it’ll do is grow the divide between the cabins

[@EduardoSSilvaS]

Had the same unpleasant surprise flying GRU-DOH last year. Well, I guess everyone will get Qatar'ed eventually if you fly enough.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Definitely. Totally sucks when it happens still

[@taewonhwang5416]

I had similar experience with their route to ICN. Their fleet? swap..

[@JJ-vy2rh]

Changi airport has won it most of the last ten years, no indoor waterfall.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

I do love Singapore and Changi Airport, but the Hamad Airport layover ain’t bad

[@Khalid_alj1]

This route also popular between Arab diaspora in Brazil More than 20 million Arab Brazilian in brazil

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Definitely. Although there are more options for those connections. East Asia to Brazil is more limited

[@AnetaMihaylova-d6f]

You got unlucky. They switched it from A350 to 777-200LR which quite old

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Well 1 of the 2 daily flights will be. But not quite yet. It was discussed in there

[@davidbalcon8726]

Been Qatar’d three out of eight flights so no more love for this airline. BTW the QR/EK tiny nation international hub model is not new nor originated by the Middle Eastern/Gulf. It was actually pioneered by KLM/Schipol and in the 60/70s by CX and SQ all three based in countries with no domestic flights nor large population base. This is how these airlines could compete (and excel) with the older major ex-colonial airlines: BA, AF and LH.

[@paultaylor1688]

Still unsure how they get 5 stars, this has happened to me a lot

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

$$$…

[@janellek21]

You got ripped off, Patrick. I hope you get properly compensated, but you shouldn't keep your hopes too high. Qatar doesn't recognise Israel so QR is off my radar for now, but I hope you get the opportunity to try the Q-Suite soon so the rest of us can live vicariously through you.

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Thanks. Definitely hoping for some form of compensation…. But nothing from them yet

[@petek5523]

Bro, you got bamboozled 😅😢. No chance of any compensation eh?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Trying… still haven’t heard back from them

[@DokiMin]

i'm still angry at Qatar after what happened to Josh Cahill

[@tinoongamandava9533]

My worst as a a330-300 to a 737-8

[@am8298]

Finnair is going to stop flying for qatar in januari

[@cserd8734]

Qatar has bought a stake in Virgin Australia and intends on operating more flights into Australia with Virgin Australia flight numbers on Qatar aircraft with Virgin Australia crew… strange given that Qatar is a one world airline. Qatar and Virgin Australia, Qantas and Emirates…

[@JJ-vy2rh]

Air travel for us Aussies is crap

[@davidsinn5758]

Oh no you got Qatar'd

[@bean9005]

29:28 i hope thats wine....

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Never know… sao paulo keeps you guessing lol…

[@Happy_Soyjak]

It is wrong because it is from Qatar.

[@craigeagle9209]

I would of been so disappointed and annoyed you pay a lot of money to travel thei latest product and end up with a old worn out seat on a tatty 777

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Definitely! Super frustrating

[@Sunjib12345]

Thank You Patrick Could You Fly From Los Angeles To Doha On QR740

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Probably San Francisco if anything… but I guess we will see 🤷‍♂️

[@mariavandenbosch2723]

Did you get compensated? You should have. It is lipstick on a pig. Such a disappointment 😞

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Nah not yet but I did send in the request for compensation so I guess we will see what happens 🤷‍♂️

[@louiecharles6523]

Yes indeed! false advertising and entrapment not good Qatar Airways! Hmmm

[@ham-on-the-bone]

Qatar so bad at the moment. Had a horrible flight recent from Barcelona to Bangkok.

[@mo.q380]

Try Etihad A350-1000 please

[@Cooperjerwer]

Can you do a review on a flight from Sacrmento?

[@PatrickSheaAviation]

Just did a bit back on WN to Hawaii

[@SnurX]

Still happens all the time. Will Never book Qatar again as long as this crap is flying

[@delibakerytravel]

Just Stupid!!!😂

[@Av_Geek_Edits]

First!!! do I deserve to be pinned?