I saw a lot of images from A7SIII but at the end I think this combo 10-25 and GH5 is still the best video combo you can get. Images are so beautiful.
@waynecake58673 жыл бұрын
No joking, this lens really has a Leica vibe.
@tomariko3 жыл бұрын
@@waynecake5867 yeah
@CallMeChato3 жыл бұрын
As an old ENG shooter par focal meant zooming in fast, focusing and then knowing zooming in and out after that would stay in focus. Focusing zoomed out never really worked.
@rockatanescu3 жыл бұрын
I think this might be due to the fact that the lens is pre-production. Panasonic MFT zoom lenses in the Leica line-up are "parfocal" (I own the 12-60mm f/2.8-4 and the 50-200mm f/2.8-4 and both are and I've seen reports from other people as well) because the lens automatically refocuses when it is zoomed so I would be very surprised if the production version of this lens won't do that.
@MrBobthened3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that’s just a different way of describing the same mechanism. For it to be still focused when zoomed out after focusing when zoomed in it needs to maintain focus throughout the zoom range, which means that if you focused when zoomed out it would still be in focus when you zoom in.
@CallMeChato3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBobthened Perhaps but in practice you could never count on that and no pro did it that way, we zoomed in, got focus and we were good, never the other way around.
@mmzz40093 жыл бұрын
glad you're recovered
@niccollsvideo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm back to normal.
@ForeverYoungAaron3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know this lens was gonna be a thing but now that I know about it I sure would love to try it out! Glad to see continued support for the system
@JeremyHalterman3 жыл бұрын
Now that I have a copy of the 25-50, I can confirm that the production version of the lens _is,_ in fact, parfocal. A Panasonic rep said on a livestream that the lens is “electronically parfocal" in that it adjusts focus as it’s zoomed in and out in order to maintain the focus point-so not a traditional parfocal design, but the end result should be the same. I imagine the delayed release of the lens was to fix the issue that prevented so many pre-production copies from working properly (Richard Wong’s review is an example of a properly-working copy). The original Panasonic livestream is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2KrkoSrj793gNU
@ofmetalphilosophy48373 жыл бұрын
But Tony told us micro four thirds is dead.....!
@pyotrpig3 жыл бұрын
Well this one is aimed at necropolis 🤷
@jinwan30883 жыл бұрын
It's not just for videographers. I'm an exclusively stills photographer and I have the "brother" lens, the Panasonic Leica 10-25mm f1.7 and it's the best m43 lens I have on me. It's SO SO SO excellent.
@StupidRaisins3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, you guys! It's always interesting to me to see how new cameras are coming along.
@elvirredzepovic68983 жыл бұрын
1. They do this for salary let's hope you are thanking everyone in your life who is doing their job. 2. This video was about a lens not cameras.
@ZOB43 жыл бұрын
I don't shoot L-mount, micro 4/3rds, or live in Canada, but your personalities and presentation (not to mention the ongoing saga of the foot!) make it worth the watch anyway.
@Sotangy2473 жыл бұрын
Was impressed by the sharpness of the GH5 used to shoot this video. Another great one.
@sparkyfilm2599 Жыл бұрын
loving your reviews boys - hired the 10-25mm for a week and loved it, just need to get the pair now and most bases are covered. I have an ARRI camera but am having a bunch of fun with the GH6!
@Seanonyoutube3 жыл бұрын
The way i see it, it’s basically a 25mm prime and a 45mm prime combined into one lens where you might lose a bit of aperture for the convenience of a zoom.
@hankroest68363 жыл бұрын
That is the way you look at it because you don't want to see it.
@Seanonyoutube3 жыл бұрын
@@hankroest6836 ok dude
@MattJett3 жыл бұрын
Like the Leica 25mm f1.4 and the Leica 42.5mm f1.2 Nocticron?
@Seanonyoutube3 жыл бұрын
@@MattJett yea
@JustinWoo3 жыл бұрын
Barely any though - the difference between 1.4 and 1.7 and 1.2 and 1.7 isn't really that big.
@AgnostosGnostos3 жыл бұрын
Micro 4/3 is still very very strong.
@ArneHerz3 жыл бұрын
... but... but what about all the channels predicting M43's death?
@AgnostosGnostos3 жыл бұрын
Arnaud Marchal Larger digital image sensors one way or another deliver better results. On the other hand the much smaller micro 4/3 sensors permit smaller and lighter lenses and camera bodies. That is very important for many photographers or videographers. If shallow depth of field isn't very important, micro 4/3 are fine with video too. The first digital autofocus mirrorless cameras with interchangeable lenses was micro 4/3 and was introduced in 2008. At that time digital full frame camera were very expensive and the real professionals or very rich amateurs. Nowadays the price of digital full frame cameras has dropped at prices comparable to many micro 4/3 cameras.
@YakAlmighty3 жыл бұрын
@@AgnostosGnostos "lighter lenses" Its 1.44lb for an F3.4 lens lol
@_modrzew_3 жыл бұрын
No, it's 1.7. Stop making stupid calculations and shallow dof fallacy.
@AlexRod96463 жыл бұрын
@@ArneHerz when you have 60+ lenses, it's hard for something to 'die', both Nikons full frame mirrorless and Canons apsc mirrorless range have less than 30 lenses combined but you don't see people predicting their 'death'. In interchangeable lens cameras, the amount of quality lenses available to you play a key role more than the camera sensor size. The only downside of it is that for product and certain portrait photography, you'll not get the shallow dof but apart from that, you can get fantastic results.
@Ulrich.Bierwisch3 жыл бұрын
If a lens isn't parfocal, it is possible to correct this and as far as I know, Panasonic is doing this. At 4:41 it shows this isn't done if the lens is set to manual focus. Since the effect is very obvious with this lens, it might be a good opportunity to do a comparison between manual and corrected zoom to show how good the correction works. This lens seems also to be a good example to show the difference between the normal and the linear manual focus in the new GH5-II.
@Ulrich.Bierwisch3 жыл бұрын
Update: According to Panasonic, the lens should be electronic parfocal, so there must be something wrong with the behavior in this video.
@artistjoh3 жыл бұрын
I am more than thrilled. Maybe a stills shooter might prefer other, smaller options, but for video this is just what we asked Santa Claus to bring, and it is not even Christmas yet. Thank you Santa.
@MattJett3 жыл бұрын
I wish both the 10-25mm and 25-50mm were stabilized and parfocal, then they would be the perfect lenses for MFT.
@Crushonius3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jordan make him walk the movement is good for the foot and the pain builds character xD
@RJPhotographics3 жыл бұрын
Not wrong. Top sports physios are horrible to injured athletes. David Beckham was saying his would make him jump off tables when he was injured - not joking.
@DeepteshLovesTECH3 жыл бұрын
Equivalent lenses will always be of similar sizes across sensor sizes. And these two lenses are prime examples of it, actual full frame equivalent lenses and similar in sizes.
@alexsystems20013 жыл бұрын
The GH5 is just such a nice image still for an aging camera.
@Simoneister3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, cameras don't get worse over time haha
@GungKrisna123 жыл бұрын
@@Simoneister it's because newer cameras are better and better
@Jaymino_3 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with ya
@waynecake58673 жыл бұрын
A lot of my friends working in the industry say GH5 color is much richer than A7S3
@edjefferson91753 жыл бұрын
It is also a very workable camera. Ergonomics, menus, customization and more
@wowwow49423 жыл бұрын
woo! another monster I love 1025 so much, fantastic sharpness and contrast this should be another amazing lens for M43
@davisarmstrong89523 жыл бұрын
correction it has a sense of par focal, It's done via firmware that was not yet available on this preproduction model. It will be identical to the 10-25 in terms of pretty much everything including par focal.
@TheRealRichardWong3 жыл бұрын
Interesting Chris and Jordan, my parfocal test result is opposite to your one. Sorry guys I think Panasonic sent me a better copy than yours :D
@chcomes3 жыл бұрын
lovely bokeh
@Veptis3 жыл бұрын
As a stills shooter on MFT since little over a year and hopefully for the next 2-3 years, and a wannabe filmmaker that doesn't shoot video - this lens was on my list to look into. I am currently using the 14mm f/2.5 for maybe 98% of my shots, and I am really split as to where to go with my next lens. Perhaps going with the 20mm f/1.7 is the smartest option as having a small lens really enables me to shoot in some spaces. But I also want to experience something wider. All my 12.5mm lenses are for c mount and they vignette badly which means I end up being narrower fov than the 14mm. I hope the upcoming LAOWA 6mm T2.1, 27mm 1.5x T2.8 and maybe the MFT Argus f/0.95 lenses are great and we'll priced. Otherwise there is always the Super Nokton 29mm f/0.8 to spent 1800€ on.
@MrVass233 жыл бұрын
Great video, like always! 👍🏻 At 3:59 min that is a Nikon Z fc! But why? 😀
@Breukies3 жыл бұрын
Is the lens stabilized?
@JustinWoo3 жыл бұрын
Love these reviews, you guys. Keep it up! :)
@TuinleiBob3 жыл бұрын
I love the 10-25 too. Since I shoot 1080 60fps, I can switch the teleconverter on in my Lumix cameras. It gives me the same range but parfocal. Just an idea.
@SovietLensReviews3 жыл бұрын
Can't fault Leica for their M43 lenses, a lot of quality glass there. Can't really see this one being quite as useful as the ultrawide though, does still seem like a very video-centric lens.
@rchrd_sn3 жыл бұрын
By looking similar, they bring great advantage not only for the shooter for sharing the same rig, but also the maker itself, as more parts serve on both lenses. At least one other brand (that I can remember; Sigma and Tamron I think) have a set of lenses that look similar, but the shared components seem to be fewer than this pair.
@trayneadjeifilms3 жыл бұрын
trying to decide whether I should get the 10-25 and 25-50 pair or a speed bosster and the sigma 18-35 and 50-100. Such a hard decision!
@JessDemant3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks!
@allencrider3 жыл бұрын
I think that pair would be great for wedding work.
@Seanonyoutube3 жыл бұрын
For wedding work full frame makes more sense.
@allencrider3 жыл бұрын
@@Seanonyoutube Nah. Not enough 16 x 20 prints ordered for full-frame to make sense.
@obscurelines3 жыл бұрын
@@allencrider three added value of FF is that you can crop and in weddings I find myself cropping all the time because you can't always make sure gurning uncle Dave game walked into you perfect shot.
@allencrider3 жыл бұрын
@@obscurelines You just made a case for using medium format cameras at weddings instead of full frame.
@obscurelines3 жыл бұрын
@@allencrider been there done that.
@LucaBono.Studio3 жыл бұрын
Let's hope Panasonic will make these zoom lenses also for the S series...
@Molybdan423 жыл бұрын
Way too big for FF
@WOLFTICKVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Com'on Jordan, give Chris a break😜😂.
@andreasgiobel63553 жыл бұрын
Using quite often at night time my 50-100 Sigma W/ Metabones XL Speed booster. Yes the autofocus works beyond my expectations. And it stops down from 1.8 to 1.2 (1.1 is showed in camera). The combo is faster but more expensive if you buy new. And it’s heavy. It reminds me why I like my other fast mft lenses. Weight is an issue whit this combo.
@Superz3ro2 жыл бұрын
Feels deceptively light even with the battery grip on the GH5II, and even more so on the GX8… …
@przybylskipawel3 жыл бұрын
I saw recenty another review of this lens by Richard Wong. In his test his copy seems to be perfectly parfocal. Do you have any insight to what Panasonic claims on that feature / property? Or maybe his testing scenario was flawed?
@thatjordandrake3 жыл бұрын
We've looked into this extensively with some help from Panasonic and Patrick Tomasso. It seems if you manually focus with the clutch set to the front 'AF' position, the lens is effectively parfocal. I suspect this is what Richard Wong did. When you use the clutch in its back "Manual Focus' position, the lens is no longer parfocal. I'm hoping this will be rectified in the production version, we'll certainly keep you updated.
@przybylskipawel3 жыл бұрын
@@thatjordandrake Doesn't it look like the lens is not truely parfocal and with focus clutch not engaged it is the focus motor that is compensating for focus shift while zooming? Thus focus is not truely manual unless you engage the clutch.
@DeMorcan3 жыл бұрын
Shot on the GH5? Interesting
@TMM69003 жыл бұрын
The zfc is so beautiful with old lens. Wouldn't mind if nikon released official speed booster
@danieldougan2692 жыл бұрын
Very nice, but I'll keep my Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and probably pick up the 50-100mm at some point. With my Viltrox EF-M2 speedbooster, they become f1.2 lenses on Micro Four Thirds. And, since I have the OM-D E-M1 Mark II, there's also phase-detect autofocus, so that helps focus them. The cost is also lower than these Panasonic lenses, and I could adapt them to an APS-C mirrorless camera or just put them on a Canon APS-C DSLR if I had one of those.
@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss3 жыл бұрын
What are the best lenses for Fuji video? First or third party, I think that would be a good topic for a video since so many people are considering Fuji for video now. I love my XT4 for video but the lenses I have aren’t super ideal for video due to stuff like breathing. I’m looking at some third party lenses with clickless apertures but I haven’t found a really good video for this topic.
@jpkosoltrakul3 жыл бұрын
@6:50 My eyes were on my second monitor, when I heard Jordan said about the step motor, then suddenly the noise that I thought something was squeaking. I was like what the heck was Jordan doing? lol
@VariTimo3 жыл бұрын
Obviously it’s not parfocal if you focus at the wide end. The depth of field is much larger and you focus won’t be precise. You zoom in all the way and focus, then you check if the focus shifts when you zoom out. The 12-60mm f2.8-f4 is practically parfocal.
@shabuj000093 жыл бұрын
@DPReview TV : Please give an example of micro four third perfocal lense?
@trym21213 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see apsc lenses like these. 33-70/35-70 f2.2 or something like that
@salmanul_fares3 жыл бұрын
I mean there's already an excellent Sigma 18-35 and 50-100 1.8, maybe a mirrorless video centric version of the same DG DN branded.
@DeepteshLovesTECH3 жыл бұрын
There is 17-70 f2.8 by Tamron, also at an affordable price.
@CharlieVN3 жыл бұрын
The 10-25 is so good with range, this one is much less desirable IMO.
@rowanstrang80723 жыл бұрын
disagree, way more interested in this lens than the other 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ although I do wish it was just touch longer
@JeremyHalterman3 жыл бұрын
I would’ve much preferred something like a 20-42.5mm to cover all of Panasonic’s f/1.7 primes in a single video-oriented lens. I find that I rarely use my 10-25mm under 18mm and am pretty sure I wouldn’t get much use out of the long end of this one.
@drewcrawford32113 жыл бұрын
Making Chris earn his pay check. Good on yah Jordan. If you don't get this sit, neither does he
@KaybeCA3 жыл бұрын
I shoot portraiture, and if it wasn't for the fact that I also own a Z6 as my primary camera, I'd jump on this lense right away. I mean, it's a F/1.7 *zoom* lense. This is craaaazy.
@rowanstrang80723 жыл бұрын
If Blackmagic were to update the m4/3 Pocket Cinema Camera (120fps please) then this lens would be an instant buy for me
@kc-qw4mh3 жыл бұрын
And internal ND
@rowanstrang80723 жыл бұрын
its nice that the focus and aperture rings are matched between the two but Panasonic should go the extra step though and sell a geared version
@matthieuzglurg60153 жыл бұрын
2:54 : I see what you did there can't wait for the video :)
@hankroest68363 жыл бұрын
Seriously funky outro music there...
@thatjordandrake3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to our friends at BeatSuite!
@hankroest68363 жыл бұрын
@@thatjordandrake The music in your videos is always very good, very well chosen and well integrated.
@burgunbeerd3 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused about getting a m43 camera and lens that is bigger than a fullframe in size
@inorogNL3 жыл бұрын
Enough smaller choices in m43 world. Take a look at those 1.8 primes
@slovoflud3 жыл бұрын
You can only be confused by it if you think that size should have been the only advandage of MFT.
@thegrayyernaut3 жыл бұрын
You get a 20-50mm and 50-100mm equivalent with f/1.7 light gathering capacity. What more do you even want? What more can they even do for you?
@impatrickt3 жыл бұрын
damn I was gonna use this for blurry christmas lights. bummer.
@sks968163 жыл бұрын
Power OIS sync.....?
@markshirley012 жыл бұрын
This will be great on the new GH6.
@uncivil_engineer80133 жыл бұрын
Adding a comment for the algorithm engagement because M43 stuff doesn't seem to get much viewer love. Also, mildly curious if this lens would have the same CA issues on Olympus bodies (even if it's perhaps not marketed as a stills-oriented lens) as some other Panny lenses do.
@ichi40013 жыл бұрын
The only issue with this is the size. A friend of mine owns the 10-25mm and it is built & weighs like a tank.
@ofmetalphilosophy48373 жыл бұрын
As if the price is no issue lol
@JennyDarukat3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this compared to the Sigma 1.8 zooms (the 50-100 specifically) for stills. Been considering to look for a portrait zoom for my G85 for a while and I feel like there's far too little portrait and stills centric coverage of MFT.
@ForeverYoungAaron3 жыл бұрын
In case you’re not familiar with Olympus lenses, the 1.2 primes are excellent for portraits! And the Sigma 1.4 Contemporary primes do an excellent job as well. I know you’re talking zooms mostly but there’s definitely some great portrait lenses in the system I think!
@waynecake58673 жыл бұрын
But this lens has the Leica vibe, this is a real difference.
@JennyDarukat3 жыл бұрын
@@waynecake5867 it is, it's just also twice the price and I'm not in a position to pay that
@JennyDarukat3 жыл бұрын
@@ForeverYoungAaron I'm honestly really happy with my 45 1.8, it's just that the focal length isn't something I'll leave on my camera over my 17 1.8 or 12-40 - I'd like to have something flexible enough to leave on while still delivering shallow portraits. Sigma's 56 1.4 also looks great, but that's the same problem as the 45 - they're just a little too locked in for me, I'm more of a 40 (equivalent) or 70-200 kinda shooter generally
@waynecake58673 жыл бұрын
@@JennyDarukat I owned both 10-25 and 18-35 for several months. Then I noticed my 18-35 is collecting dust. Especially when you mentioned portrait photography! Using manual focus to shoot portrait is a pain. (Auto focus adapter? Not quite working on 18-35) What’s more important is the image contrast and color is much more vibrant on the Leica. If you only shot video, 18-35 and 50-100 are both okay.
@karenvrolijk1833 жыл бұрын
Looking at the 10-25 mm review on lemstip we can see that lens is just as sharp as the very best prime mFT has out there. So that makes it a really viable option for still shooterstoo If th 25-50 mms as good those two lenses are a fantasticduo for all pupouses within their range.
@RJPhotographics3 жыл бұрын
As sharp as a prime? That'd be incredible. Where is the lemstip test?
@Whatsup_Abroad2 жыл бұрын
@@RJPhotographics It's sharper than the majority of prime lenses.
@63MacGuy3 жыл бұрын
Great good guys!
@lilzohan70782 жыл бұрын
The Ninja Atomos slows down auto focus?? Is that true
@vaidehiarts3 жыл бұрын
To empty pockets with this beautiful monster, versus carry my Pana Leica 25 f/1.4 and Pana 42.5 f/1.7, that is the question (or is it really?).. definitely a bigger dilemma for those who want to get into native MFT glass, but for those who're already invested, this may not be worth it. @Jordan - Could you perhaps offer your opinion on this lens (and the 10-25 f/1.7) vis a vis the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8? That range is slightly different, but does cover a fair amount of the coveted range between 10 to 50 mm (and is much smaller and lighter, although slower in focal length too).
@IslandFilmMaker3 жыл бұрын
BAD JORDAN... making Chris Hobblet do a walk & talk :'( Love that lenses
@ales_krejci3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was full frame on the fist glance, it would be a genius lens and all I need with f1,7 :-)
@QuietOC3 жыл бұрын
50-135mm F3.5 zooms were introduced in the early 1980's but didn't survive the transition to AF a few years later.
@Molybdan423 жыл бұрын
It still has the speed of a 1.7...
@CLAYNPOTTER13 жыл бұрын
I think Jordan is hiding out of the frame somewhere with a whip in his hand, saying "Walk Chris, Walk!"
@SMGJohn2 жыл бұрын
Why no one can make a lens like the Samsung NX S lenses, 16-50mm F2-2.8 and the venerable 50-150mm F2.8 I never seen lenses so rasor sharp, such beautiful bokeh rendition, good focus pulling capability, super quiet focus motor. Just overall lovely lenses.
@slows7282 жыл бұрын
The 24-70mm S Pro is as sharp as the 16-50mm S, I have both (still have two copies of the 16-50S). The 24-70mm S is even a bit sharper at the wide end. Bokeh is better on the 24-70mm S Pro too. However the weight, colors and versatility (MFD on the wide angle) are better on the 16-50mm S. The 4k of the NX1 is still awesome too.
@SMGJohn2 жыл бұрын
@@slows728 The M4/3 24-70mm is that not more like a 36 to 105mm in APS-C world? What annoys me in the M4/3 world is the lack of zoom's that can compete with the compact fast zooms of APS-C world and full frame, Panasonic F1.7 zooms are really large, much larger than my Samsung S lenses apart from the 50 to 150mm one. Mind boggling to be honest.
@slows7282 жыл бұрын
@@SMGJohn No the 24-70mm S Pro is for L-mount (Full Frame) so it is a true 24-70mm.
@slows7282 жыл бұрын
@@SMGJohn The Panasonic 10-25mm for M43 is not so much larger than the 16-50S. The quality is great, contrast and microcontrast is really awesome on this lens. But the 16-50S has more bokeh. Both have awesome colors.
@SMGJohn2 жыл бұрын
@@slows728 Ah okay the full frame lens, yes I used it, I used to have a Panasonic S5 but I had to return it, too heavy, going from NX1 to S5 is like going from a speedy hatchback to a monster truck.
@PolluxChung2 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford it.
@leeinnes71273 жыл бұрын
Chris, be thankfull that Jordan didn't insist on a hop & talk instead
@darrinyo-mamakimble70023 жыл бұрын
Jordan makes Chris walk… Jordan does his entire part of the review sitting down… Come on man! LOL
@thegrayyernaut3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they're going to make a 50-100mm f/1.7 xD That would be INSANE.
@JonInLondon3 жыл бұрын
A 70-200 FF f/2.8 on a SpeedBooster (or equivalent) would be 50-140 f/2 ... actually I have all those bits ... hmmm ...
@EnerGeezerSquirrel3 жыл бұрын
Geez, Jordan, why are you taking it so easy on Chris? I would've made him do a JOG-&-Talk! ;-)>
@ahojahojish Жыл бұрын
Jordan you MONSTER!! You made Chris walk....to think I once thought you were a good person....dissapointed.
@frankfeng27013 жыл бұрын
It's still much cheaper to achieve the equivalent range/DOF on larger sensor, for example, Tamron 35-150 2.8-4, Sigma 50-100 1.8. If on budget, I'd adapt those lenses onto M43 bodies.
@professionalpotato47643 жыл бұрын
The Sigma 50-100 has insane breathing though. I'm quite tempted to get one, but the breathing makes me think twice.
@frankfeng27013 жыл бұрын
@@professionalpotato4764 True. Options are limited on apsc.
@MichaelSchagen3 жыл бұрын
A Panasonic lens, targeted at videographers that isn't parfocal? I find that hard to believe. Were you using a pre-production sample with pre-production firmware? Another reviewer (Richard Wong) claimed it is parfocal.
@romenorom3 жыл бұрын
If m4/3 sensors would have a similar performance of xt2 or xt3 will be a stellar system.
@Wreneagle3 жыл бұрын
From a physical perspective there is like a 2/3 of a stop difference. Not a big deal imho. The real issue is current m43 sensors are a generation behind or more. My point being it's not a system design flaw but more a specific model issue.
@UberM3n3 жыл бұрын
I have all my hopes on the gh6
@romenorom3 жыл бұрын
@@Wreneagle sensor is not so much smaller. But dynamic range and Iso sensitivity is one stop worse.
@Wreneagle3 жыл бұрын
@@romenorom I'm just calculating from sensor size: fujifilm apsc is about 370mm^2 versus 225 mm^2 for m43. That's a ratio of 1.65 to one, not 2 to one giving 0.717 stops of extra light (recall a stop is a doubling of total light). That's closer to 2/3 of a stop than a whole stop. I'm not saying 1/3 of a stop matters much, but if we are being technical let's do it correctly. Of course one could argue that cropping the m43 to a 3:2 aspect ratio makes the apsc have a full stop of advantage, but by the same token we could be cropping the apsc to 4:3 aspect ratio and getting only 1/2 a stop of advantage.
@obscurelines3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a primary stills option. Added to the 10-25 it doesn't offer much over a standard full frame and a 24-105mm after you use increased iso to counter the difference between f1.7 and F4.
@Henry-ve3ye3 жыл бұрын
Awww.. papi can walk now.. ❤️
@VariTimo3 жыл бұрын
There should be 14-40mm f2.
@tomperry90343 жыл бұрын
For the price of this lens you could buy a full frame body and primes second hand. See the difference in IQ straight way, especially in low light. DoF and ISO performance is the killer for micro four thirds as a photographic format. Would be interested in seeing the t-rating for thos lens too, especially at the far end of the zoom range.
@Whatsup_Abroad2 жыл бұрын
I can get this lens second hand for 1100 bucks. Where's my modern ff camera and primes between 20mm and 50mm with f3.4 apertures? I'd need a 20, 24, 28, 35, and 50 to really cover the same bases as this zoom too. DOF and iso performance on m43 are perfectly fine. They are lesser than FF but already perfectly sufficient for 100 percent of photographic needs. Not 99.9%. There ain't a goddamn thing on this planet I can't shoot with m43 and in high enough quality to be paid for it.
@anitafnelsonk28263 жыл бұрын
Given Lumix’s F1.7 primes are so budget friendly and light weight, this F1.7 zoom seems only value to those really need to zoom a lot in making video with shallow dof that F2.8 is not sufficient.
@salmanul_fares3 жыл бұрын
Review the Olympus 12-100 F4
@GiriPrasath0013 жыл бұрын
Sony Alpha we need apsc lens like this
@DustinBKerensky973 жыл бұрын
They're still making new lenses for M43? Joking aside I think the Leica lenses for M43s are fantastic. They always have a very rich look to the images; (now I'd like to see what an equivalent Leica lens looks like in L mount form).
@PSORIK3 жыл бұрын
За эти деньги можно будет взять Sony A7 IV (180к) + добавить и взять значительно дешевле объектив, как и более универсальный - такой как Tamron 17-28 (2.8) или 17-70 (2.8)
@09goral3 жыл бұрын
Chris not learning from his mistakes, still wearing flip flops.
@scott21003 жыл бұрын
to be fair, work boots that are re enforced against nails are not very common
@Vladi_mir_M3 жыл бұрын
It should be T1,3 and parfocal.
@lee8org3 жыл бұрын
Just like my Olympus prime lenses!
@chrisw4433 жыл бұрын
Sony made the 18 to 110 pz parfocal zoom lens for e mount and we still dont have an equivalent on micro four thirds.
@80-80.3 жыл бұрын
9-55mm f2 Don't think we will see that anytime soon. Lol.
@waynecake58673 жыл бұрын
The image is simply beautiful, with some real Leica vibe. Yes you can get shallower DoF with FF, but the vibrant colors, the micro contrast, the in and out of focus transition of this lens is not commonly found on FF lenses. The matched color is another exclusive feature of cinema lenses.
@JerryWilliam633 жыл бұрын
Com'on Jordan, make Chris run.
@miguellee33 жыл бұрын
Here for Chris’ foot. 😂
@Crispy_Bee3 жыл бұрын
And I thought the GFX lenses were huge...
@alhOOO2O3 жыл бұрын
Jordan, I very much hope that Chris is thanking you for completely unselfishly shouldering the majority of the load in this video… 😜🤣
@rowanstrang80723 жыл бұрын
shame it's not parfocal, real shame. Greater shame that Panasonic can't just account for that in software and make it parfocal for all intents and purposes
@salmanul_fares3 жыл бұрын
Maybe through a software update
@elvirredzepovic68983 жыл бұрын
@@salmanul_fares It is a design issue. HARDWARE design and it has nothing to do with "firmware". Can a new firmware create some new glass in that lens ? Do you ppl have schools ?
@frankluo2303 жыл бұрын
25-70mm F1.7 would be great. 50mm F1.7 is just a tad short on the long end. 10-25mm is 2.5X this is only 2X
@elvirredzepovic68983 жыл бұрын
You don't do physics right ? Yes, it DOES show.
@dreammachine863 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have exactly the same thoughts about this lens. The 10-25mm I think is acceptable having a 2.5x zoom ratio considering that it's unique not just in M43 but all systems, being a fast lens that goes up to 50mm full-frame equivalent but also all the way down to 20mm ultra-wide. It's known that making an ultra-wide lens faster is difficult, especially a zoom. There also aren't any fast ultra-wide prime lenses with autofocus for M43 so the 10-25 fills this gap too. However the 25-50mm should be a less difficult focal range to implement in a fast zoom so I think having at least the same 2.5x zoom ratio as the 10-25 was expected, if not even a slightly higher ratio such as 3x; so 25-75mm. That would've been perfect, and Panasonic could have included 135mm and 150mm in their marketing blurb about the traditional filmmaking focal lengths that their f1.7 zooms are meant to cover. There are also many great fast primes already in that range in the M43 system; Panasonic's own Nocticron, Olympus 45mm f1.2, Sigma 56mm f1.4 and Olympus 75mm f1.8. There is no 135mm equivalent in M43 so Panasonic could've taken care of that too. The f1.7 zooms are very expensive so it would've been nice to see this 25-50 go that little bit further. Maybe they were limited to what they could do having to make it exactly the same dimensions as the 10-25 and physically could not extend the focal length further. I'm sure it will do well in its niche as an optically excellent video lens, I've already looked at a number of sample images and they look lovely. Out of my budget atm but hopefully one day I'll be able to afford the f1.7 pair, despite my disappointment at the focal length not being pushed further it still looks like a lovely lens that produces beautiful results.
@jamesstanley72633 жыл бұрын
But MFT is dead, isnt it? ISN'T IT?
@plebbyplebster95953 жыл бұрын
Jordan is awesome
@Uciinnn3 жыл бұрын
Why this channel don't do monetize money from advertisement? -_-
@extremelydave3 жыл бұрын
Killer looking lens. Now all I have to do is sell a kidney or a lung and go buy it!!! 😉😉😉
@edwin_ac3 жыл бұрын
I think a portion of Chris' pay will go to Jordan on this episode.