If I Was In Charge of Sonic

[@3axapTv]

Here is a Knuckles game concept: Player participates in the bowling championship but not as Knuckles. Knuckles just watching TV in a hotel room. "KNUCKLES: the game"

[@jackiexkh]

Something I'll say is that the Sonic cast is in _desperate_ need of new models. Not full redesigns, just new models that are more expressive and change some proportions a bit (think the "muzzle curve" fans always argue about)

[@PDS350]

While I believe adventure fans need to have their gameplay reintroduced, I also disagree when you say the boost has no potential, because I've always thought it could be the base for a platformer that plays almost like a spectacle fighter akin to DMC. To give an example of tweaks I'd make: - Reintroduce tricks, give them a button to use while airborne or grinding and a button to finish the combo. In 3D, finishing the combo would launch Sonic in the direction the analog is facing with a small vertical lift or straight up if idle. - Remove sidestep or at least restrict it to those sections like in Colors, freeing those buttons. - Adventure controls at slower speeds, Sonic gets more unruly the faster he is. - Make his moveset more dynamic, wallriding, homing attack with momentum if you keep holding it, stomping speeds up the more time you're airborne and, with a well-timed boost when reaching the ground, redirect that speed forwards. And the most important: Make score matter. Add scoring opportunities like in adventure for doing risky things (e.g. add a “near miss” bonus for sidestepping at the last second, in those scripted sliding events in shadow, I also imagine getting a bonus for reaching the rainbow rings), chaining enemies, etc. That not only matters for ranking but would also be the primary way of filling the boost gauge, which now would be way more limited to incentivize scoring. Or, you know, Sonic Rush 3 with hand-drawn sprites like WarioWare: Shake It. (Edit: wrote this before reaching that part lmao)

[@DanielAntovski]

The only time sonic has made score matter was in sa2, and because of that, sonics gameplay is weaker in SA2 than in SA1

[@PDS350]

@ it's weaker because it still tried to merge it with the adventure formula, I think the boost is a way better fit for that.

[@DanielAntovski]

@@PDS350 well today I was time attacking sonic unleashed shamar act 1 and I was trying to get a good run, and in one of my atempts I got a 3:05, and I noticed that I got an A rank and I told myself "I did a lot of blunders and missed some skips and choked in one section, I can do better", then I got a time of 2:48 and I got a B rank "hahaha, really? I did better and got a worse rank lol" the reason I got a B was because I took a hit "how can I improve my time? Hmmm, oh wait! I missed this one skip" so I replayed it and I got a time of 2:43 and got a S rank(and I didn't take a hit)

[@GidiGoatGuy]

Sonic Rush 3D made me realize how much I love spamming the trick button so yes tricks would be good. makes flying through the air or even automated sections way more engaging even if it's just spamming a button

[@Bluesine_R]

@@GidiGoatGuyI mean, you could do tricks in the air like in SSX Tricky or SSX 3, where you actually have to time your tricks and land with the proper orientation or risk falling on your face.

[@SuperiorNas]

Pariah has been set free from the sonic curse. The nightmares, finally they're over.

[@frickerrific2813]

Nah he’s got one more lol

[@Whyisthis-t9b]

Sonic Racing Crossworlds:

[@KookyKot1880]

Wtf is TCW? ​@@lukescrew1981

[@SuperiorNas]

@@Whyisthis-t9b well, I guess set free for now

[@lauraikoko]

@@Whyisthis-t9bhe is NOT gonna cover that lol

[@kidokoala]

I just want a 3D Sonic game where Sonic's movements aren't too stiff to maneuver around small platforms.

[@peterdarker3863]

then make one

[@SwordCailburn]

A 3D Sonic game with more movement would be cool having move control and movement for Sonic would be fun. I hope it would be like Spark 3

[@rondorock2563]

@@kidokoala like if Sonic could use ultra instinct but for platforms.🔥Yes take my money

[@kolkagaming1234]

Sonic Frontiers: “Allow me to introduce myself”

[@kidokoala]

@kolkagaming1234 Yeah, it barely improved on the controls from previous games. Then again, I've only played the Switch version.

[@iskamagg317]

Man went CRAZY after writing that Riders fanfic💀

[@Doobydoe]

He's always been like this

[@theotakuguy8957]

Still glad he made this Sometimes during the streams I had a hard time understanding his positions when it came to this topic I have a way clearer idea of what he wants sonic's direction to be even if I still disagree with some of the stuff presented here

[@crimsonzone8984]

Aren't we all CRAZY? Checked the internet lately?

[@Autokyasuto]

@@DoobydoeThat’s what I’m saying.

[@DarnHooligan]

God I would kill for a heavily story-focused Sonic RPG

[@MarleDrawsStuff]

Heard of chrono adventure?

[@deanmoriarty6015]

I would love this but my one thing I can never figure out is how the overworld gameplay would be. I can think of a million ideas for the battles in an RPG but none for an overworld.

[@noobbox9113]

Farewell sonic, forever

[@soloflare9696]

Sayonara, Sonic the Hedgehog

[@GracefulJabberwocky]

@@soloflare9696 Adios, Sonic the Hedgehog

[@lauraikoko]

only real ones get the reference

[@noobbox9113]

@@lauraikoko B)

[@CarmSmoothie]

JebTube reference

[@mayoat.y]

That One Piece design of Sonic visiting islands is so perfect

[@s_5_u6969]

snail pfp

[@KYRA_RISING]

My one true gripe is that “Millennium Sonic” from the desc kinda falls into the same trap as “Classic” considering the turn of the millennium was 25 years ago now, and also I just find “Mega Sonic” ridiculous, but otherwise, holy peak. It takes a pretty strong will to not only accept the fact that fans are gonna want many, MANY different things, but work to have them included, but you passed with flying colors. You even acknowledged some things I genuinely never thought you would, like the JP/US divide being a fact of the franchise from the start, and THAT is respectable. The reboot was a bold idea and I lowkey thought you were out of your mind at first, but then you explained away and… it turned out to be everything I could possibly want. Stories retold, FIXED even, through new mediums, steps taken to get the audience ready for the big, BIG moves when they would normally be too risky, a canon restored to order, all without sacrificing too much of what this fandom has come to love… I’m enchanted. This creative drive, this sense of honor, this respect for the fandom at large… we will always need more of that in this world

[@danmiddleton4581]

rhis does open my eyes more that the MCU are to blame for everything being unified. We used to be contempt on axxepting everything being the same but different

[@TheMasonGamer]

I think a reboot is necessary for this franchise to ever reach its potential again. It’s just gone in so many different wrong directions for far too long, to the point where course correction alone isn’t enough. Sonic needs a clean slate and a true return to his roots and fundamentals

[@charleswolfe8896]

Well time for Sonic to go through its own crisis on infinite Earths

[@sonic5993]

I don't think so.

[@ShaleLee]

I think soft rebooting is better. Go forward with an idea of what they want to do, and just act like the contradictory parts never happened. Sonic already has already suffered years of being lost in the past, it would be a spit to the face to invalidate the whole series and then spend another decade or two remaking the original stories so that they can still be canon and characters can be introduced. Especially after they just spent Frontiers and Shadow Gens reestablishing the characters to move forward with. Like I love the Sonic movies to bits, but I would be very resentful to them if all of a sudden they actually replaced the current canon. Same thing happened back with Boom, part of the reason people were upset at it (beyond the bad gameplay) was the Boom games got a lot of attention and a TV show, without any news of the core series - pretty much no one wants the core Sonic replaced, fans would be rabid if Sega tried it.

[@SeanFronteras-w1y]

Dear Sega

[@Aviii_]

@@SeanFronteras-w1y LMAO that video's a classic For anyone that doesn't get the reference, look up "Dear Sega Sonic Redesign" for a horribly pretentious redesign idea lmao

[@gamefreakDX]

It's kinda funny because before Sega just went and said that all the games (and the IDW comics) are canon, I kinda just assumed that some of the games are their own thing. Maybe not most because at the time, there was an (lousy) effort to connect them all, but then there's games like the Riders series which are even more out of place in my opinion with their Sci-fi design. But with GUN still a thing there, it's either that this takes place in the far future somehow with GUN persisting, or it's just an alternate world where GUN also exists.

[@TiredMoonRabbit]

Well now they are, and all it takes is a clever writer to come up with a way to make them fit together, like saying the place where riders takes place is just more technologically advanced than the rest of the world.

[@ChaosGodEnerjak]

Idk With places like Grand Metropolis in Heroes, Riders never felt out of place to me. Sure there were areas like Metal City but most of the other tracks were environmental. Plus I guess in Zero Gravity you have Eggman running Meteor Tech so a lot of the stuff could just be coming from him. Not to mention you always had bigger cities along side more rural/village like areas as well so the world of Sonic’s always just had a a lot of aesthetics.

[@2ndspringtube708]

End of an era ,really enjoyed most of your videos not just about sonic since you have very interesting perspectives and sometimes you genuinely convince me about something ,I used to love limited lives until I watched your video about them ,excited for next year videos ,good day

[@sirprower]

Your take on classic Sonic is the definition of BASED!

[@AlphaDaArtist]

I really enjoyed your Sonic videos, but can't wait to see your future videos from here on out. I really loved the ideas of calling Classic/Modern Sonic Mega/Millennium Sonic and your idea of a Knuckles Metroidvania sounds like a game I'd fuck with.

[@dastanovich2476]

Neck's now broke from nodding too hard

[@rando6677]

Holy glaze Bro your doing tricks on it Jk

[@Nieveria]

honestly i used to think that there _should_ be only one sonic, and that the games would progress linearly from sonic 1 all the way up to now, but then i remember that a _lot_ of media franchises don't do this. spider-man has two whole MOVIES about how they don't do this and it _celebrates_ that they don't do this, with another one coming up. really, not every sonic story _needs_ to be related or interconnected

[@cosmos3573]

Did you we have been using the same model since shadow the hedgehog manual it’s been almost 20 years

[@7TPdwCzolgu]

I think classic Sonic should be more like how Japanese classic Sonic was thought in the 90s

[@SuperSpinDash64]

32:38 I dislike how these days SEGA has been trying to simplify the franchise to the point there’s now really only two continuities. I loved how they used to do so many different interpretations of the characters, and now it’s just been reduced to a slim amount.

[@derple8524]

Agreed, It's a shame. Even when I watched Sonic prime it was so lame that we had such a small cast of characters, Boom had more than that at least. Still not all bad since we still got a few left good things in the franchise and a pleatheral of other franchises that will do cool stuff

[@-redde-]

the thing with your classic sonic modern sonic split idea is that, i mean, yeah, who doesn’t want just more sonic, but i don’t think that could ever work realistically. having these two separate branches that are each doing 2d platformers and 3d platformers and their own spinoffs and stuff would cause a lot of brand confusion, even if how the games actually worked were entirely different. if they actually tried doing that i feel like audiences and sega would end up finding it homogeneous and one branch would just end up eating the other and we’d end with one sonic in the end again.

[@sonic5993]

Basically what happened to Mega Man by the mid 2000s.

[@Darkfawfulx]

This is one of those times where the death of tradition handhelds is a detrement.

[@RougeTheBatReal]

I definetly think Sega had the right idea with modern doing 3D and classic doing 2D, but Superstars killed that so ig we're back to square 1

[@Kurosenshi1978]

@@Darkfawfulx This, though I guess that's what phones are for nowadays. Also nintendo does the split with mario well, why can't sonic. Sure sonic has classic 2d (originals/mania/superstars) and modern 2d (advance/rush), but they can alternate at least to avoid burnout.

[@DynastyZero1]

IMO modern audiences are now very used to the idea of multiple iterations of the same franchise existing at the same time so I don't think it'll cause any confusion, maybe it would have 20 years ago but not now. Although the idea of one overtaking the other would be a real concern. I doubt they would get equal treatment unless maybe one of them got handed off to a different studio like the Mario spinoffs.

[@sanglish18]

18:55 Aren't we forgetting the advance trilogy? Like, no matter how I look, those sprites are clearly drawn directly based on the artworks.

[@Pariah6950]

True. But they are too low resolution to really bring the style to life.

[@keithflippers4429]

​@@Pariah6950 maybe getting an advance remake would fix that

[@Izak_Klark]

About the Homing Attack, there's a demo from SAGE this year that changed how it works fundamentally. It can only be done when going fast enough, and it carries your speed. You can even use it to smoothly redirect yourself. It's seamless and doesn't feel like the homing attack we know, and I feel like that's like a gold standard if we had to have it.

[@greenstarforce001]

What's the name of the demo?

[@Izak_Klark]

@@greenstarforce001 Whoops, I thought I mentioned it. Proto Sonic

[@wiizosc]

23:43 wasn't that one of those stupid bad 2000's games YEAH it was ... but it was cool 🥺🥺

[@TheRegularHedgehog575]

It wasn't one of the bad stupid 2000's games, it was one of the good stupid 2000's games.

[@Exmotable]

time for the pariah haters to act as if this video is pariah saying he hates everything about sonic and only wants the classic stuff

[@mokuroh3046]

If they dont reboot thing they should at least let characters develop in the games to justify their places in the story better, like I always imagined it would be nice to have Rouge be able to have a better relationship with Knuckles, good enough he can let her watch the master emerald, she gets to be wih the gem and he gets to do whatever he wants and it would be a great show of trust between the two. Or if Silver has to keep showing up and keep on saving the future even if it gets ruined a week later again, have a story about it, how he lives in a world where he is the only constant, that sounds pretty lonely and how he has come to feel more at home in the past, you could even end this arc by him just admitting he likes the past and implying he can show up just because he wants to, it would make his presence less of an issue, and if you want include Blaze in that story, show us how she goes from accepting friendship to seeking moments with friends, as an introvert the jump from being the friend that just goes along to the one making the plans is big. Like, stories dont have to grandious, they just have to be something, characters improving for the better and that would be good enough.

[@Giffsen]

I love to see these videos where you go crazy on changes, it's refreshing to say the least.

[@Cellinator]

Congrats, Pariah! I’m excited to see what comes next for you and your channel.

[@badusername765]

End of an era. I hope Pariah expands his horizons to more than just video games. I’d love to see more anime and movie reviews from other series he’s willing to talk about for 40+ minutes.

[@Autokyasuto]

I just hope we can still be civilized people if he eventually talks about his controversial opinions on popular movies and anime. 😅 (I’ll still respect his opinions either way.)

[@Nickika]

Final video, this is it. We can finally see this channel move forward and see it grow in different places other than Sonic. We have video games ahead of us.

[@KookyKot1880]

Fnaf

[@themissingbits6375]

GEX

[@Nickika]

@lukescrew1981 it is his final Sonic video I literally said that we can finally see the channel grow, I obviously know this is not the last video

[@KookyKot1880]

@@Nickika for now (didn't read whoops)

[@tek3576]

​@KookyKot1880 yeah lol. I highly doubt he will never talk about Sonic again. I don't see the point in dropping it completely to expand the channel when he could just do that and talk about Sonic when he feels like it

[@SaddieMoon]

6:42 If I would give Knuckles a game, it would be a 3D Collectathon while I give Tails the 2D Metroidvania. But honestly, I can go either way. I just want a Knuckles game, Tails Game, more Shadow games, a Silver game, maybe even more, but those are what I specifically want.

[@coldsteeledge6248]

I love a lot of your ideas, even if I disagree with some of your takes. Specifically, I don't really understand the extreme hatred for the boost. Practically speaking, I'd argue it's not very different from the spindash, especially with the more recent games (Cyberspace in Frontiers, Shadow Generations) that have slowed down the boost to allow for more precision and a stronger emphasis on platforming. You even said yourself that the design of Shadow Generations isn't far from Adventure 2, and I personally found the Cyberspace levels from the Final Horizon DLC of Frontiers to feel very similar to Adventure 1 with how open they are and how they encourage huge jumps with the spindash (which is basically just an extremely overpowered version of the boost in that game anyway). In other words, if they have shown that boost gameplay can easily have the same strengths as the Adventure games when implemented well, why should they throw it all away? What good would come from replacing the boost with the spindash? I feel that the issue has less to do with the mechanic itself and more to do with the basic, repetitive design of the boost games and Sonic Team's failure to truly innovate and improve upon the boost formula over time. I would prefer for them to just rework their level design philosophy and certain mechanics to make the gameplay of the modern games feel more engaging and dynamic while still retaining the boost. Get rid of the homing attack chains and side-step sections, make the homing attack a more interesting mechanic (I can think of several ways that could be done), incorporate far more platforming and natural ramps like the Final Horizon Cyberspace stages, and keep automation to a minimum (basically only using it for brief, rare spectacles to make certain stages more memorable). That's already a blueprint for S-tier modern Sonic gameplay in my opinion, and that's before even considering new mechanics or further ways to spice up the formula.

[@derple8524]

Well said here, The Boost isn't the problem. It's Sonic Team relying on it too much and having it as a crutch. When he says what these failures are the only thing I can look to is Forces since that game failed to innovate on the boost design, and relied on nostalgia for every era of Sonic fans to buy into it. Shadow Gens proved it can work, but work still needs to be done to improve

[@ZBroadcastYTP]

Fly free, Pariah! Thanks for all the Sonic videos, it’s been nice getting to hear your thoughts and interesting facts about the series and look forward to your next non-Sonic videos!

[@sugarsmile7852]

I'm gonna wait 7 years for your next sonic video

[@Ergeniz]

16:58 The developers said that Unleashed was pretty much Sonic Adventure 3 (4 if you want to count 2006). The hub worlds, accessing the zones by unlocking them, etc is all meant to be directly reminiscent of SA1. This is made pretty obvious as the japanese release is titled 'Sonic World Adventure'. With that in mind, they likely wouldn't go back to the older Adventure mechanics because they consider boost games to be a direct evolution of the previous 3D games. Not saying I agree with that - just all evidence points to that being the design philosophy. I really like the look of that fanmade 3D Sonic game at 10:00 btw, though I have no idea what it is.

[@ivanalmeida4555]

if you mean the low-poly Sonic, that's SRB2

[@OptimistoET]

Bruh, peep this one. Like, really peep this one. NOOO MORE SONIC! NOOO MORE BOOST! NOO MORE BINARY AUTOMATED DESIGN! NOOO MORE CONTINUITY ERRORS! YOU'VE BEEN REBOOTED.

[@whaleping]

Peep this: Give up on video games. Give up on entertainment. Build a house. Raise cows.

[@keithflippers4429]

​​@whaleping idk i could do that in Minecraft

[@BagMonster]

I feel like Pariah has me in a hostage situation. "Create 2+ completely different Sonic series, or Shadow and Blaze get iced!"

[@sumgesucksatgame._.7173]

Next video: I became Sonic CEO

[@lost_doodle8483]

truth be told, that thumbnail makes me feel cold. so cold.

[@corythehedgehog]

Honestly these are really great plans for the franchise. Hopefully the next sonic game following up shadow generations will be good. Also can't wait to see what else you cover besides Sonic. I'm very interested(Also emailed you about my Sonic RPG project before, thanks again for the tips lol)

[@SwordCailburn]

I would like a Sonic game to follow up Shadow Generations. I wished that Sega did a Generations with Sonic Friends like a Knuckles Generations or a Tails Generations.

[@PudimAbestado]

I'd vote for Pariah as the new Sonic CEO

[@hbogye]

agreed

[@whaleping]

Nah

[@samuelpierce2.088]

For the most part, I can get behind what Pariah laid out here. However, there are two things that I would do differently… 1. At least in terms of cleaning up the Sonic “canon” (barf), I feel like most of the smaller details - things like “why does he have this ability in one game and not in another”, “why have we only seen X character pop up in Y game”, etc. - could easily be handwaved away by saying: “Sonic only uses certain abilities when he wants to, or feels he needs to. And his massive entourage of supporting cast members really only show up when something plot-related actually pertains to them specifically. Otherwise they stay in their own lane and just go about their regular business.” It doesn’t solve *all* of the series’s problems, but it does alleviate most of them. And it’s a bit more upfront about the meta fact that “hey, the creators only bring these characters, abilities, etc. into the games and stories when they want to. Don’t make a huge deal out of it.”, which is (in my opinion, anyway) a more honest way to approach the inconsistencies of the series’s story and worldbuilding. 2. Beyond the obvious spinoffs (I.E. the racing games), I would put Sonic Team to work cooking up a bunch of character-specific spin-off games, many of which would play around with mixing other genres into Sonic’s trademark speedrunning-based platforming. For example…what about a Rouge the Bat-themed spinoff that puts a heavy emphasis on stealth? Not only would it be a great way to expand/evolve the scope of gameplay found in 2D Sonic games, but it would also be a fun way to get a look at what Rouge is up to when she’s not working with Shadow or Sonic. And since it’s a spin-off, we could also play around with potentially reintroducing mission-based objectives and non-linear level design. Maybe even throw in other fun ideas, like unlockable costumes, weapon-like upgrades that augment Rouge’s core abilities, all that good stuff. As another example…why not a Shadow spinoff that plays around with some survival-horror gameplay? We could even flip the script and have Shadow be the “main monster” of the game, with the primary objective being to reach the end of the level/complete the game without being caught by Shadow (a la the Outlast games). Or heck…if we wanna get *really* ambitious, how about a Silver-focused 3D game that takes inspiration from the inFAMOUS franchise and lets Silver use and upgrade his Psychokinesis for both combat and puzzle-solving? Maybe even have the game take place in the future timeline Silver is supposedly from, with zones and aesthetics completely unique to that time period. …Point is, there’s so many different, awesome ideas for spinoff games that could make for fun and compelling gameplay in their own right. And it feels like all of these ideas are being left on the table either because they don’t fit the preconceived notions that SEGA’s C-suite execs have in their head about what is “appropriate” for Sonic’s brand image, or because both SEGA and Sonic Team are still too afraid of fully embracing Sonic’s supporting cast out of fear that it’ll upset people.

[@daniel_w0085]

The Pariah sonic arc is finally over

[@SaddieMoon]

The thing I would want this series to do is to continue respecting its history, use more of its history including stuff outside of the main continuity, not be afraid to experiment, bring back Sally Acorn, give the games their actual needed dev time, keep the Shadow Gens/Sonic Gens team that the members of are still around, keep doing things with Arzest and have things improve with Classic Sonic with them, bring back Dimps on a few occasions or at least one more time, etc. Idk, those just came to my mind so far.

[@skystar59-isnt-that-cool]

7:02 wasn't tail's adventure a metroidvania? wouldn't making a sequel to that make more sense? A knuckles solo game would be a treasure hunting game not a out of left field metroidvania. 15:25 no no no that would not go over well with fans especially depending on how the chao garden would be handled in that. When the adventure games get remade they need to be accurate but with some changes to fully update them into the modern age.

[@yatoplayz]

Knuckles metroidvania would go so crazy

[@rendumguy7596]

Metroidvania seems like the best place to take 2D classic Sonic, I agree. It's the same gameplay, but in a new format and it being a Metroidvania means they can have backtracking and reuse level design. It also just allows for a lot of fun and creative ideas like having fast sections segway into new areas, or having the potential for sequence breaking. And then on top of that, it could attract the Metroidvania crowd.

[@SwordCailburn]

A 2d Sonic Metroidvania would be cool, it would make Classic Sonic gameplay feel so new and a Metroidvania has a lot of potential in Classic Sonic game.

[@TehJellyLord]

Yeah you’ve really sold me on this idea. I definitely used to be on the side of the fence that just wanted one version of Sonic for all these different games, but that’s really only because of the direction they are currently going with Sonic where they are trying to pass off the idea that all these games exist in one “cohesive” world and timeline… which is just the most obviously untrue thing I’ve ever heard. So if they were still trying to pass this series off as one cohesive world, then yeah I’d want one Sonic for that. But I do agree entirely that this approach is super limiting. But how you are describing things, where we basically get the original vision of Sonic returning properly as its own branch of the franchise with no compromises and we still get to continue the more Adventure-Modern day Sonic stuff in its own branch where we can go wild with it, yeah this all sounds amazing to me. Because I dearly love the original vision for Sonic and I also dearly love Sonic from 1998-2009, so if we were able to see both of those return and be able to evolve in their own interesting directions, then I would take that opportunity in a heartbeat! And the idea of getting NEW branches to the franchise that are also just as good but doing entirely different things, then yes please. This idea is sincerely too good to be true, don’t absolutely never would happen. But maybe someday, the right person would come along that becomes the new lead visionary for the Sonic brand and that person might be in it for more than just their salary pay and also recognize the same issues you’ve noticed. Stranger things could happen. Also, as your send off to Sonic videos, this is a fantastic one. This series has been fantastic, I’ve loved every single one of your Sonic videos. And I’ve really enjoyed your non-Sonic related stuff too. I’ve been trying to work through several of your game recommendations and you have changed my vision and outlook on both Sonic as a brand, but also gaming as a whole. I will continue to support you and your videos in whatever ways I can, and I thank you for all the entertainment you have provided me over the last year or so since I discovered you! You’re genuinely one of the best KZbinrs I’ve ever watched.

[@FedericoMigliorati]

Now that pariah is free I’m waiting for an “a hat in time”review

[@dashyburrows]

Classic could be referred to as Genesis Sonic, because his design was the genesis of the character, with him coming from the Genesis. As for Modern, I do think the adventure terminology works quite well given his design originated from Adventure but also because of the more diverse stories that iteration has been on, though I also think DX Sonic or Zone Sonic could work, or hell Frontier Sonic. Dx due to it coming from Sonic Adventure Dx, Zone Sonic coming from the word Zone which is used a lot in the series. And Frontier Sonic because this change would happen post Frontiers. Plus having the two be called Genesis Sonic and Frontier Sonic sounds rad af.

[@BlueJack222]

28:40 I can live with that let's go with the timeline split That was supposed to happen after the events of Sonic Generations

[@AYTM1200]

I have a very similar vision but I wouldn't completely get rid of boost gameplay. I suggest the games be split into 3 branches with 3 games which have 5 - 6 years in development and come out every 2 years. The first branch would be a 3D classic Sonic game with a open zone you can roll around in and 3D levels that play like SRB, GT, Utopia and Encore kinda like Shadow Generations has 1 open zone which sends you to multiple levels. Each level has a ring which sends you to a special stages transform you to a 16 bit version of Sonic from the Genesis days so you get both the original classic Sonic gameplay and something new. The second pillar would be the Adventure pillar with an adventure field connecting various stages that play like SA1 and SA2 speed stages eacg with the 2D speacial stages which play like the Advence games. The final pillar is the Boost pillar with the open zones playing like an improved and perfected version of Sonic Frontiers and Shadow Generations with levels which play like both Sonic Generations levels and Shadow Generations levels. I still believe there is room for improvement in the boost formula since they haven't hit the peaks of Unleashed and Generations since.

[@sketchsskotch1073]

imagine the confusion if this alternate sega showed a Younger Modern Sonic and it just looked like Mega Sonic.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

I agree with a lot of what you say, aside from a few personal preference things like a Sonic R successor but I have a hard time seeing how this *wouldn’t* be a good direction for the series to go in. I used to think all the different Sonic’s would be a branding nightmare or whatever but that’s just demonstrably false today. Spider-Man for example or just comics in general lean into this so hard and people love them for it, myself included. I see no reason to put yourself in a box. nobody is looking at Ultimate Spider-Man and going “hey wait, but in Spectacular Spider-Man this character didn’t do this so how come-“ they know it’s different and they don’t need it explicitly said to them.

[@SuperSpinDash64]

6:01 Yes! I love this idea, especially as a Metroid fan. Tails Adventure(s) is the only game that’s done this before but I feel like it could be so much better.

[@themissingbits6375]

BUT I CARE ABOUT DR. FUKUROKOV BECAUSE NO ONE CARES ABOUT HIM SO SOMEONE HAS TO CARE ABOUT HIM 😤😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡😡😤😤😤😤😤😡😡😡😡😡 (This is just a bad joke, guys.)

[@artey6671]

@@themissingbits6375 Man, now I feel a little guilty for not knowing about that guy, even though I played Tails Adventure(s).

[@MetroGexual]

@@artey6671 he’s the owl who got his head caved in with a rock near the end of the game

[@TengokuEXE]

I just wish Sonic was JUST Sonic. No classic. No modern. Just different game styles. Imagine how annoying it would be if Nintendo suddenly started going, "Here's Classic Mario and Modern Mario!" Now Mario is suddenly two characters and the fanbase splits based on which one they like more.

[@Chino-JM]

There are others that do and it's fine, Sega just wants to have their cake and eat it too

[@StellaFangX]

Mario has different gameplay styles and even different art styles in RPG spin offs and sport games, but those doesn't feel as radically different as Sonic to the point of in-fighting within the fandom. Then again, Nintendo is a big company with a better reputation and appeal than SEGA, so the latter has to play safe and try to not displease the fandom and the general audience.

[@claustrophobe2222]

Thank god you hate the homing attack cause i actually love having to jump on enemies in 3d with all the precision of an American Sniper.

[@Sklumbo]

Im gonna steal this video idea mister pariah. Gonna watch this when I get home later, hope you have a good holiday!

[@technicallyinept2120]

I kind of like the ideas here, but I really don’t think Sonic has enough resources to make this happen, nor do I think these branches have enough widespread appeal individually to be viable options.

[@FOOLYCOREY]

this is exactly why i subscribed. he has the best opinions that no one really thinks of when it comes to sonic. if this is exactly where sonic went into the future i would be so happy. truly peakriah695

[@denraimei32]

I personally would double down Classic Knuckles as a mainstay. I'd have it so the Master Emerald could alert Knuckles of what Robotnik is up to and justify him leaving Angel Island from time to time.

[@rileysymonette4029]

Exploring an open world version of Angel Island would be amazing. It's reused environments, but seen from a perspective we never have before.

[@sajidgehog7651]

2:19 that explains the thumbnail😂

[@W1sSH]

In the first few minutes of the video I was thinking of how the Mega Man franchise handles it's own sub-series but after watching the whole video I see that your vision is completely different.😅

[@enchilad6799]

I remember hearing a proposed story explanation for Knuckles being able to join Sonic's adventures is that since the whole reason the Master Emerald and Angel Island were separated from the rest of the world was because of Tikal and Chaos being sealed away, but after the events of SA1 where both of them break out and by the end, are finally able to properly move on to a peaceful afterlife, have Tikal tell Knuckles that he doesn't have to live in isolation anymore. You could have it be like in the movie universe where he's still the Emerald's guardian but he's not restricted to Angel Island anymore

[@derple8524]

I mean, Super Mario Bros Wonder, Super Mario Odyssey, and Mario and Luigi BrotherShip are basically what I want for this franchise. It's different interpretations of the same characters. But for me Sonic is always Sonic no matter what illation he is, I enjoy Sonic X for it's anime Est vibes and fights, I love Sonic X Shadow Generations for it's gameplay. Yet we whine so much about continuity when we don't know what we're talking about half the time, Since continuity itself is keeping the franchise so stagnate and chained up since nothing is allowed to evolve or experiment. I personally want to see a Sonic Battle spin off with the character's duking it out in small arenas, I mean even Luigi, Peach, and Donkey Kong got their own games. Funny how Mario gets to do this with his series but not Sonic lol. I personally just want to see improvements of all these ideas not tied to cannon and see them branch off with the ideas we loved about Sonic in the first place. The cool radical hog who's allowed to do his own thing from time to time, with Style

[@JtMz-e8v]

its nice that people care enough about this franchise too plan out custom games and fix lore

[@masenmeans5893]

What if for that anime recap/original idea we combine and just give another Sonic X-esque anime? The original kind of did that with the original Adventure games anyway, and was almost as popular as the games themselves here in America

[@Tesstarossa51]

Tbh I think Adventure remakes are a bad idea because if you give them the FFVII treatment, that will piss off people who like them for what they are, if you give them the N. Sane Trilogy treatment, that'll piss off everyone else. So I would say just leave the past behind personally. For Classic Sonic, definitely do 3D Classic Sonic games, in fact, make a whole trilogy out of it, probably in the style of Mario 3D Land/World, as a way to differentiate it from modern Sonic, preferably developed by both Arzest and the Mania team if that's possible. I feel like you could get away with a cheaper looking artstyle that's only a slight improvement from Superstars. For Modern Sonic, as much as I hate Frontiers, I think it has the PERFECT structure for a Modern Sonic game. Because you can have Open Zone levels that are more in the style of the Adventure games, that bring back some physics and momentum elements from Classic Sonic, while still feeling different from the 3D Classic Sonic games because this is open world. Then you can still have cyberspace levels which are more boost gameplay, no one would mind if the boost gameplay stays a short thing you do occasionally as opposed to being the main game. But it would still please the fans who want to keep seeing the boost. For 2D Classic and Modern Sonic, I think your existing ideas are perfectly solid.

[@KookyKot1880]

​@@lukescrew1981How bout we reboot Sonic and make all the male characters women?

[@coldsteeledge6248]

That's an issue that applies to basically any remake, but I actually think it wouldn't be a huge issue in the case of Adventure remakes. The FFVII remake games attempt to reimagine one of the most acclaimed games of all time, and for the most part, they have been quite well-received (both were even GOTY nominees) despite there being so many changes. People are open to change if it is done exceptionally well. For Adventure remakes, it should be easier because unlike FFVII, both of the Adventure games are flawed to the extent that it should be possible to please the vast majority of the audience if all of the biggest issues are addressed in ways that most would consider reasonable. Even if someone doesn't like a few of the changes, they would likely be won over by the vast improvements made in other areas. This is of course assuming that the remakes are done exceptionally well, and I agree with Pariah in the sense that Sonic Team has proven they can do it. It's just a matter of budget and timing.

[@KC.086]

it's better to make a good game and piss some people off than just leave it alone, these games deserve proper remakes

[@roiitzkovich4545]

Even if your ideas could potentially work somehow, before we make such drastic changes to how the franchise is handled, Sonic needs a rest. By that I mean we should let the Sonic series be dead for a while. Give it 10-15 years of no games at all (not even spin-offs). We need to let the fans starve a bit so they'll accept any sort of new Sonic content, even if it's a full blown reboot that forgets most of the past. At the same time, the gaming community (even non-fans) get to clean up their minds from Sonic's old rep and more easily accept a reboot. This decade long rest allows Sonic to have that fresh start seem more appropriate. Crash didn't press the reboot button immediately after Mind Over Mutant. Spyro didn't immediately press the reboot button after the Legends games. They took a rest for a while, were essentially dead franchises, but then returned with the old styles thanks to N.Sane and Reignited. They earned those reboots. You don't just release the next major Sonic game and then in 3-4 years reboot the franchise. That latest Sonic game is still too fresh in people's minds. Doubly so if they fill in the time with spin-offs and the likes. I don't necessarily oppose your ideas, but you'd have to pay the price of Sonic being a dead franchise for an extended time period. And let's be honest with ourselves... this won't happen. Sonic is still Sega's biggest money maker, even outdoing SMT or Yakuza. They won't go a decade with any sort of Sonic media. Not to mention, Paramount is making Sonic movie 4 and a buncha TV spin-offs in the Sonic Cinematic Universe. Honestly speaking, though I might be wrong about this, I think if you were actually Sega's CEO and had the final say on how to handle Sonic, you wouldn't have done things too differently than currently. You have no idea how complicated it is to run a company. Your decisions might do well in the future, but many patrons and shareholders above you would reject these ideas because they are too risky for their money. You'd be forced into safer moves. To sum up, you gave some nice ideas with potential, but are not going to happen at all. Unless Sonic starts doing so horribly in sales, to the point it's more profitable for Sega to abandon Sonic for many years, your wishlist will stay mostly unanswered.

[@gessekaii]

I'm also someone who's on board with a reboot of the series. With the reboot, the Sonic series can use world building and setting rules with how things work. Even though in these ideas you talk about how each iteration of Sonic would be different, they could use having a common ground with how the world looks and functions, so each games/media's settings don't clash. The example I'm thinking of is how Zelda handles its world building. We know that there's a mythology of the three goddesses, the triforce , races, and reoccurring landmarks in Hyrule. But each Zelda game is a different iteration of the same world and functions with the same rules. Sonic should definitely have something like this, in order for us to fully understand how this world functions and actually have a grounded universe. And lastly, congrats on finishing your last Sonic video. It's been a ride since being recommended your classic lore video. 🎉

[@Lonelysum]

So sonic boom would get to exist with no consequences imagine that

[@lazyavatar2479]

Ggs, this is a great final sonic video for now

[@TheLanydx]

You had me on board in the first half but the glazing of the classic era while calling things that came after it mistakes was a biiiiiig Nahhhh from me man.

[@snapdragonzoroark]

I either heavily disagree with your videos or think that you have objectively correct takes on the franchise This video is the ladder I think sega after frontiers 2 should just hard reboot the franchise and split the development of the series across multiple studios (sonic team would be working on the high budget mainline games while the B tier "adventure team" would be working on the more experimental 2D and 3D games Also sonic absolutely needs an anime thats actually written well and has extremely well choreographed action scenes

[@cowaborange]

I feel like "the adventure games are fundamentally flawed" should not be the mindset of a remake but that might just be me

[@the.bloodless.one1312]

DUDE YES!!! I’VE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS WE NEED A KNUCKLES METROIDVANIA!!! Man, would be so sick! Perfect to explore Knuckles lore and his move set would work perfectly for a metroidvania.

[@SwordCailburn]

A 2d Knuckles game in a Metroidvania would be fun. The game can do a lot of alternate paths for Knuckles to traverse. I would want a Knuckles Metroidvania.

[@the.bloodless.one1312]

@@SwordCailburn I think even a 3D Knux metroidvania could be cool. Either or, the genre just makes too much sense for his moveset, no idea how it’s been this long and we still haven’t gotten one.

[@SwordCailburn]

@@the.bloodless.one1312 I agree with you a 3d Knuckles Metroid Vania would be cool. There is so much potential with a 3d Knuckles game.

[@ToastyCubes]

After I watched this video, I had a dream last night that Pariah took his channel in a new direction which involved things like a face reveal, doing giveaways and talking about current topics like moistcr1tikal. Needless to say I woke up in a cold sweat.

[@Chillipeffer]

Sayonara, Sonic the Hedgehog.

[@OsartDamian]

Merry Christmas!!

[@jonah2437]

I don't quite yet trust Sega with this but I've always wanted to see what a 3D "Classic" Sonic game would be like

[@ChildishCalvino420]

Also personally would like to see the Original Saga (1,CD,2,3&K) to get remakes with Generations level design, Superstars Art Style & Mania’s engine/gameplay, then continue on with doing more in series to fix up the timeline order officially while also fixing continuity errors as I do like Sonic (Classic) being Sonic’s (Modern) younger self, as it fits well to be like a shonen protagonist getting a time-skip

[@Autokyasuto]

Honestly, most of your ideas and wants for Sonic sounds very similar to JebTube’s own ideas and wants for Sonic. As much as my hyperactive imagination can go wild on franchises (especially Sonic), but much like JebTube, taking the realistic approach to this is the better option. Learning from our mistakes, celebrating the past, but trying to move forward. (Also the part when you were talking about the reboot being a way for the writers to be brutally honest is always so funny, yet also depressing at the same time.)

[@runningwithscissors8612]

It’s very funny to me that the easiest way to fix Sonic to make a 3D Classic game and a 2D Modern game

[@saudade347]

Very excited to see you tackle different game franchises. I'd be cool to see you talk about some action games you said you were a fan of like Bayo/DMC/Ninja Gaiden etc. Though whenever you take your channel I bet it'll be awesome. Your Sonic videos were incredibly insightful. Looking forward to more, whatever that is. You're one of the few channels that feels genuine these days. Brimming with honest passion. Thank you for what you do, I wish more channels today were like you.

[@SSL_2004]

I could not disagree more strongly with your opinion on continuity. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Classic and Modern being the same continuity. It is not creatively holding the series back whatsoever. Continuity is not a prison, it's a tool to enhance the world. Classic Sonic takes place in the nebulously recent but somewhat distant past, that's it, that's literally the only thing you need to consider when making a classic game. Considering how episodic Sonic is already, what even IS THERE to contradict. Was Superstars substantially creatively limited due to needing to maintain continuity with the existence of Dark Gaia? No. Not really. I don't even understand your point about "That would mean Sage would start appearing in classic games." No? Theyre in the past. This already precludes them from being """tainted""" by the modern sensibilities of the franchise entirely beyond a vague easter egg maybe here or there. The mere concept that these aspects being canon (despite complete irrelevancy), is "tainting" the franchise at all comes off as a little pretentious. What would be lost in the separation of these continuities is INFINITELY larger than what would be gained. The modern and classic iterations of Sonic inrich each other's worlds, and the same goes for IDW. I have a lot of issues with IDW, but I don't want it to be decanonized. It adds a lot to the world of Sonic that is absolutely worth maintaining, and while it's not perfect in its execution, it is quite literally the exact thing as your proposed Classic Sonic manga is for the Sonic franchise. It is the canon multimedia outlet for the Sonic franchise, once again, it's not being "held back" by Sonic Canon, enriching Sonic Canon is literally the entire POINT of the book. That's why even from the very beginning, it took place immediately after forces, and implicitly "ported" the entire game Sonic continuity into its own, before it was officially absorbed into the continuity. Game Sonic continuity is literally fundamental to IDW Sonic. Being faithful was its entire PREMISE, _whether or NOT_ you think it executes that premise properly. I for one think there's massive room for improvement (and I think a lot of improvement has been made with the Riders Arc), but the IDW books being canon, again does nothing but enrich the overall world of Sonic. In particular, the Classic specials of the IDW series are pretty much _exactly_ what you're asking for with the Classic Sonic manga, just Western instead of Eastern, and of course, not *nearly* as frequently released. I for one would love a canon Classic Sonic manga in the vein of the one you proposed too, but I find it ironic that in terms of it's literal media role, IDW is identical to what you're asking for. Bottomline. Continuity is NOT A PRISON. Classic Sonic in modern Sonic sharing a continuity only serve to enrich each other, and Classic Sonic is already distant enough to give you the things you're asking for. You mentioned that other multimedia franchises like TMNT have many different continuities as well, and that even Sonic did back in the day with the Western and Eastern renditions of the characters, and that it works fine for them. I agree to an extent, and I think that alternate continuities aren't a bad idea, but A: You shouldn't fracture the one we already have when they are effectively zero drawbacks to it. (I think you really really *really* exaggerated the current continuity issues with Sonic. There really aren't that many beyond like, 06 and Sonic 4. B: I think those alternate continuities would be best served in alternate forms of media, or new spin-off material. C: I would argue that there is a SIGNIFICANT drawback when it comes to those other franchises having so many different continuities. That being, the collective franchises have absolutely ZERO IDENTITY. They're borderline mascots and nothing more. Sonic has an identity, and it's one that's been fairly consistent since its inception. It's just that that identity remains pretty much entirely localized to Japan. The goal should be expressing that identity in the main series for all, not fragmenting the franchise *even more.*

[@Inapeeina]

Wouldnt it be weird if 2d mario was labeled as young mario meaning mario wonder happens before mario 64 and 3d mario is old man Mario? Stuff like that is more confusing than pariahs suggestions i think

[@kahboom76]

@@Inapeeinathe Super Mario Bros series and the Mario 3d games don’t seem like separate continuities. Especially since said 3d games have made references to 2d ones.

[@JesusSanchez-bq7rm]

even the rpgs have been said to be of the same continuity as the main games ​@@kahboom76

[@galten7361]

@@kahboom76 Mario games have been repeatedly confirmed to not have any continuity outside of the ones with actual sequels

[@galten7361]

@@JesusSanchez-bq7rm They aren't.

[@S.omeone618]

Goodbye SWAG; 3 years of my life. I won't forget you

[@PMZaphod]

Storybook remasters for the switch with a new one the next year to complete a trilogy

[@SwordCailburn]

I would want the story book game to have remakes and remaster, but I don't want the current voice to cast to do the voice I don't want a roger Craig Smith to do Sonix voice. It would sound bad.

[@PMZaphod]

@SwordCailburn when adventure 2 got re-released they didn't change the voices so i don't see a reason for them to do that

[@fl0837]

imma profit from your sonic reboot idea and yap about how i would see rebooted (modern) characters: - Sonic would be that kind of mythical being embodying the wind, thunder and nature. He would mysteriously apear wherever he wants and disapear just as fast, looking for the next adventure to go on, he would have a more wind/storm themed moveset and keep that cool atidude he has in adventure (maybe with more autism YIPEEE). - Tails would be a mechanic that uses renewable energy and solarpunk tech, he would have a heart of gold but and inherits sonic's "never give up" attitude, but tends to overcomplicate on simple things while finding hard stuff easy as pie, he drinks iced tea but can drink coffe in case of emergency, and beware when you catch him in a coffe phase... - Knuckles would have the master emerald embedded in him, allowing him to comunicate with spirits of the past (with funny gohst shenanigans), this leads him to take rather unorthodox paths that always lead to him coming to help at just the right time or find treasure. he would have an archeologist kind of job and works at a museum for shelter and grapes. - Amy would embrace her druid/witch/superstitious gimick, she would actively use magic to search and find Sonic to keep the blue blur in check (and spend some quality time), she dabbles in all kinds of pseudoscientific stuff like tarot, rock energies, constelations... and loves hanging out with people to share her knowledge and advice, she is the kindest soul known to earth and will always see the good in people, no matter what ! - Shadow would be just as elusive and autism as Sonic, but he would be more pragmatic and reserved than Sonk, he acts like a veteran/expert (gennerally like an old man) and he secretly takes pride of that, trouble always seem to be looking for him, but it's a challenge to impress him, but if he gets backed into a corner, you WILL see how cruel he can get (also he is snackish on coffe beans and always have a bag of it with him) - Rouge loves theatrics... and her jewel collections, she acts as a robin hood from time to time, but will never admit it, she is also the best spy you can get, working for an unknown individual, she tends to take on morraly gray jobs if it means to get paid. When possible, she likes to stay close to shadow and mess with him a bit, and she has a secret successful rapping carreer. - E123Omega as himself - Silver would be always busy to make his future a better place, to the point that he'll do strange things just so he secures a butterfly effect that would help the future, you WILL have to tear him off of his work to spend time with him, he is as positive as sonic, but as serious as shadow, always trying to find a solution, even if it means his sacrifice, he is helpless and will not hesitate to help if you ask him, though he can be mislead very easily. - Blaze would be the most responsible and mild-mannered person in public, but when alone/with friends, she will completely drop the act and vent her frustrations and curse all those dastardly idiot politicians with all the names in the world, she can be very laid-back and snarky at times, but will not hesitate to go for honesty and uphold a sense of honnor, the sol emeralds usually have to force her to respond to their call, but she will make sure to finnish the job, no matter how hard it is ! that's it for now, thank you so much if you actually took the time to read my yappuccino i'm sorry it had to be this long aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@davidabner8885]

I would introduce new recurring villains that aren't mustache twirling megalomaniacs. Like maybe eggman retires but his legacy is left to a company, Egg Corp, and instead of saving the world, maybe just go back to saving a single island from ecological exploitation

[@Kelps.mp4]

I think I agree with pretty much everything except for the anime movies thing. Making anime movies adapting little game scenarios with a handful of changes would probably not be worth it. Instead, I suggest that they could do a little series covering the game stories in a simpler way but making changes to some things, with each episode being only 30 minutes long. They could maybe be done by regular anime studios like Studio Trigger or Wit Studio or just be done by western studios like Powerhouse Animations or Studio Gigex.

[@purplegum4850]

Best christmas gift

[@History_Matters]

Why are people saying this is the last video pariah does about sonic

[@Pariah6950]

Because it is

[@tek3576]

​@Pariah6950 see you in 5 years

[@CrashWeezerman]

​@@Pariah6950I give you 2 weeks.

[@History_Matters]

@@Pariah6950 Good luck for future projects

[@History_Matters]

@@Pariah6950 Good luck for future projects

[@Kirbychu1]

im in more of the modern sonic camp and i agree so much that its time for the boost to go. its BEEN time

[@ChildishCalvino420]

Personally love the Sonic Manga idea as it’s something I wanna work on, but would definitely look at One Piece & Dragon Ball as huge inspirations

[@jonasd.2548]

At first when you said completely separate the classic and modern series you lost me but then i realized that I really do kinda want to see how the themes and gameplay of those games could of evolved without the modern reboot interrupting.

[@Chino-JM]

They already act for the most part as two separate things, having them be technically the same thing is a burden more than anything else

[@jonasd.2548]

@@Chino-JM yeaa but its the whole canon and timeline thing that i was worried about. Like eventually classic sonic will become modern sonic but i see that classic doesn't really need to at all.

[@thebeanguy08]

I remember watching your video about 'let's talk about classic sonic' and completely disagreeing with your idea about splitting the classic and modern entirely, despite the benefits that it could bring. However this video and the ideas you brought up convinced me. Especially at 35:47, 'If you can't please them all with one product, why even try?'. I'm personally more of a fan of modern, adventure sonic, and wouldn't mind classic being gone for good, but I do agree now that it's better to have multiple different versions doing different things for different people. Oh and by the way, I think you should be in charge of Sonic, you got some good ideas 👍👍

[@thebeanguy08]

Also the idea of sonic just going 'goodbye knuckles' at 38:40 and then we just never see or hear from knuckles again is just really funny to me for some reason.

[@sonicwhite91]

And the Sonic saga of Pariah695 is over, it was fun while it lasted but I’m looking forward to the new content on the channel.

[@sewertendo]

I generally agree with the sentiment of the video (not every single suggestion, but the general mission statement), that Sega should stop trying to please everybody in one product and continue to diversify the sonics. Part of that can involve a plan to soft reboot/hard reboot or rebrand of existing branches - whatever results in good games/products with clear visions. I think it comes down to having the right plan at the right time. When Sonic stocks were down, there may have been some financial benefit to having samey stuff throughout Sonic - it's allows for better cross promotion of things. I can also remember a time as a kid where I liked it when game canon things got referenced more. But now I think the renaissance of Sonic could allow for these other branches to exist and be more their own thing. And that can lead to more wacky things like a Sonic Riders or Sonic R spinoff, or multiple comics. Tl;dr, as you said, it's time to take the shackles off

[@kinggalactix]

YOU FINALLY GOT MY MINDSET ON SONIC, PARIAH! I commend you, mate! Yeah, why restrict the gameplay into the MAIN type. Branch out and make multiple different games! Enhanced gameplay following the Adventure formula, and repairing the flaws in certain mechanics? That would be great? Expanding on Unleashed high speed reactions gameplay intertwined with Gens precision platforming, with their great physics? That would be fun and amazing to see! You could even have games which expand on something like the tether mechanics of Chaotix, or the unorthodox momentum platforming AND combat of the Werehog! There's no reason why Sonic can't be the gameplay ""equivalent"" of Final Fantasy, each expanding and telling their own stories (replace 'story' with gameplay) I don't see why ideas should be dropped or left behind.

[@Sparkys_World-0]

Merry Christmas dude, I wish you good health and a happy 2025 🎄🎄🎄