Pastor James Knox Do not trust Westcott and Hort

Pastor James Knox Do not trust Westcott and Hort

[@Beleeuer]

what's sad, the Christians using the newer bibles ignore the problems and hush you when you share it.

[@Beleeuer]

+Truth Seeker it's been on other media, not here. 1 Timothy 3:16 God manifested in the flesh. not only do new versions change it to he, some are not consistent in he or Christ. one Spanish niv had Christ, another along south the English had he. they sure not all consistent. the tr stated theos.

[@Beleeuer]

+Truth Seeker No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known. John 1:18 ESV bible.com/59/jhn.1.18.ESV

[@Beleeuer]

+Clinton Post No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. John 1:18 NIV bible.com/111/jhn.1.18.NIV 2011 niv

[@Beleeuer]

+Clinton Post No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known. John 1:18 NIV bible.com/111/jhn.1.18.NIV 2011 niv

[@Beleeuer]

+Clinton Post what you provided is not in the Greek.

[@TheTenthLeper]

Unreal! Great stuff. Love Ol' Brother-Pastor James Knox.

[@kathleencarmel1196]

Thank you thank you thank you!! I just got myself a large print KJV & AMP Side by Side Bible. Amplified with Greek Hebrew and Aramaic so that is the best way to go. Nothing added or subtracted!!!

[@jupiterinletfreediving3]

Make sure it is the correct Greek...The Textus Receptus, rather than the W&H critical Greek. My guess is that it is NOT the TR Greek. I'd just get a straight up KJV. Just like the NKJV is a false TR Bible, I have a feeling your amplified is alexandrian too.

[@joshpeterson2451]

+Sola Scriptura Why the Textus Receptus? You do realize it was written by a Catholic to the Pope who excommunicated Martin Luther, right? Also, you do realize that your position is completely indefensible, right? Go read 1 John 5:7 in the KJV, and you'll find a passage that never appeared in a non-Latin derived Greek manuscript until the 1400-1500's. Do you honestly believe that the key Trinity verse (if it's authentic) disappeared for 1,500 years in all Greek manuscripts? How do you the key reincarnation verse hasn't disappeared either? You have completely removed any confidence in the preservation of Scripture if you think the TR is inspired. Also, go read the end of Revelation. The TR butchered it because the commentary, not even a manuscript, that Erasmus was copying from had lost its last pages, so Erasmus translated the Latin Vulgate's ending for Revelation back in Greek for the TR. The readings in the TR for Revelation 22 are completely different than how any Greek manuscripts read for the past 1500 years. And you think the TR is inspired?

[@jupiterinletfreediving3]

It is clear that you do not know the history of the TR vs. the gnostic Alexandrian manuscripts which underpin the new versions. The beautiful thing about Erasmus was that he WAS a catholic, yet rejected the primary catholic manuscript (Vaticanus) as false and full of added RCC doctrine. He also disproved the catholic Latin Vulgate by Jerome by doing side by side latin translations to show how he added in purgatory and indulgences, which were not in the original Greek. Luther called Erasmu's 2nd edition his wife, because he held it so closely. Erasmus also attacked a sitting pope, and lived to tell the tale, and his manuscripts are despised by the RCC. So...he was a catholic who attacked the church and gave Luther the tool he needed to blow it up. I was a huge NIV guy...until I studied the issue in detail. Here is what I found: followingjesuschrist3.com/2015/10/24/the-bible-version-controversy-a-brief-history/ As for 1 John 5:7...it goes back to at least 157AD, and is cited in many ancient sources. "in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth" has been omitted by the RV, Ne, NIV, NKJV marg., RSV, GN, LB, NASV, NSRB marg. (insisting that the words have no manuscript authority and are an interpolation), NEB, NWT JB. AMP italicises the words. The passage known as the "Johannine Comma" is found in Codex 61 of the 15-16th century, kept in Dublin and known as the Montfort manuscript, Codex Ravianus (Wizanburgensis) of the 8th century and in the margins of 88 and 629. The main authorities for the passage are the Old Latin text of the 2nd century, including manuscript r (5/6th cent.) and the "Speculum," a treatise containing the Old Latin text, and several fathers. Fuller (4) p 213, citing Wilkinson, states that the passage was found in the Old Latin Bibles of the Waldenses, whose text pre-dated Jerome's Vulgate. See also Ray (15) p 98, who states that this "Italic" Bible dates from 157 AD. The Old Latin text carried sufficient weight to influence the later copies of the Vulgate, most of which from 800 AD onward incorporated the passage. The fathers who cite the passage are Tertullian (2nd cent.), Cyprian (250 AD), Priscillian (385 AD), Idacius Clatus (385 AD), several African writers of the 5th century and Cassiodorus (480-570 AD). The combined influence of these authorities, together with grammatical difficulties which arise if the Comma is omitted, was sufficient to ensure its place in most editions of the Textus Receptus-see Berry's text- where it undoubtedly belongs. See Hills (3) p 209, (38) p 210, the TBS (58) "Notes on the Vindication of I John 5:7" and Ruckman (2) p 128-9, (31) p 334. The omission of the Comma from the majority of the manuscripts most likely stems from the influence of Origen and some of his supporters, who did not accept the doctrine of the Trinity. This text is also discussed at length in Part 3. You must listen to voices other than satan's famous"Yeah hath God said?". Yes he did say it...in the KJV. Attack God's voice to mankind at your own risk.

[@chrisclark1943]

Sola Scriptura thank you so much, this helped me tremendously.

[@jupiterinletfreediving3]

Chris Clark you are welcome my brother. I look forward to meeting you on the other side.

[@sjururhjgaard8794]

This was a great sermon!

[@getkjv]

Your welcome. God Bless you too

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

I once heard a guy defend Westcott and Hort's beliefs by saying that Erasmus probably also believed some things you also don't agree with. First, this was a veiled attack against the Textus Receptus. Second, if Erasmus had been an apostate and occultist, liberal scholars would have attacked him with that by now. Third, Erasmus lived before the Protestant Reformation and helped start it because he was a reformer, but Westcott and Hort abandoned Christ and went back to that false religion. Forth, this guy never addressed their bizarre beliefs because it's indefensible.

[@kurtaaron9478]

This must be referencing the same Oxford Movement that was so influential in the creation of Alcoholics Anonymous.

[@JesusProtects]

I've been in one of their sessions. They pray to an unknown god, a God of their own choosing. The prayer is generic to include all faiths, even atheists. People can think whatever they want of the prayer.

[@kurtaaron9478]

@@JesusProtects Interesting....just like AA.

[@stevebenoit6649]

What could possibly bring a human being to go against Jesus Christ our loving saviour??? I can't figure out this one.

[@JesusProtects]

The work of satan. Maybe they were possessed. I've heard they were also occultists. I haven't verify this yet, take it with a grain of salt, but it would make sense.

[@getkjv]

Yes he is ! Amen!

[@edwardpf123]

Amen!

[@Framer_Mike]

thanks for the Knox videos :)

[@Framer_Mike]

7 yrs ago... Wow . Time has flown by... lol. Now We can all watch Pastor Knox live online.. Thanks zgain for the DL and hope all is Well with you and yours.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

It's crazy how people will get on here and defend those two heretics and will put down the KJV.

[@getkjv]

your welcome

[@jxwxm]

The only thing they are right about the deity of Christ is this quote: "He never speaks of Himself directly as God, but the aim of His revelation was to lead men to see God in Him." - This is proven that Jesus is the IMAGE of the invisable God. John14:9, Hebr. 1:3, 2 Kor. 4:4-5, Coll. 1:15

[@gray6580]

Jesus absolutely declared Himself God in John 10:30-33 and when He stated "before Abraham was, I am" as a clear statement of deity! No mere man could have made such statements! He is God manifest in human flesh: John 1:1-2, 14.

[@willishall1812]

Yes he does " I Am," more than once.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

Jesus did in fact declare himself as the Almighty in Revelation chapter 1.

[@Mmmmm173]

If I understand correctly that is another heretic who says that Jesus Christ is not God. Until you die it’s never too late! So repent and come to Jesus Christ!!!

[@reykaisertv]

34:50 lol

[@joshpeterson2451]

Let me get this straight, Knox rejects Westcott and Hort's work because they had bad theology, but he accepts Erasmus' work? Does he realize that Erasmus was a full-bore Catholic?

[@ComeOutOfHerMyPeople]

Even Catholics belief the genesis account.

[@joshpeterson2451]

@Steven Kirchner, "Erasmus favored many of Luther's teachings; but his few disagreements with Luther prevented him from joining Luther completely." Tell me you haven't read Luther and Erasmus' interactions without telling me you haven't read Luther and Erasmus' interactions.

[@joshpeterson2451]

@Steven Kirchner, Oh look, you read a secondary source talking about Luther and Erasmus. How about you actually read Luther's and Erasmus' interactions with each other, such as their debate on free will? Luther considered Erasmus a heretic, and Erasmus considered Luther a heretic. Erasmus was a Catholic through-and-through. If KJV-onlyists were consistent, they wouldn't be KJV-onlyists, because the KJV is a translation of a Catholic's work.

[@joshpeterson2451]

@Steven Kirchner, Believe it or not, I actually have things to do as a pastor. You know, preaching the gospel at abortion clinics, preaching the gospel door-to-door, hosting families from our church, counseling, and preaching the Word to the congregation. What did you do over those past 3 weeks I wonder? Please, show me from Erasmus himself (not someone who talks about Erasmus) that he believed in justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone as revealed in Scripture alone to the glory of God alone. You can't, and you know it, because he was a Catholic through and through.

[@joshpeterson2451]

@Steven Kirchner, "As for studying Erasmus firsthand, the man is a little 6-feet under, so that might be difficult." I think you are unfamiliar with the concept of "primary sources." Erasmus may be dead, but his writings live on. What I'm asking for is for you to prove that Erasmus wasn't a Catholic from primary sources, from Erasmus' own writings. Not from someone who talks about Erasmus. Erasmus himself.

[@gregsettle5880]

Q. What is the longest line in Heaven? A. The line waiting to see Jesus! Q. What is the 2nd longest line? A. The line waiting to apologize to Wescott and Hort!

[@edwardpf123]

No worry about that, Hort denied the Blood atonement, he won't be in heaven.

[@gregsettle5880]

The KJV translators believed in Baptismal regeneration, Salvation only in the church, the union of church and state, infant baptism, persecution of dissent, hierarchical church government, a special priest class, clerical vestments, the "real" presence of Christ in the Lord's supper, and Amillennaalism. Will they be in heaven edward? You who is the judge of men here on earth!

[@edwardpf123]

They believed in the Gospel of salvation by faith alone, a Protestant Gospel, not a Roman Catholic one. Many of those who worked on the Greek text that underlines your comic book version will not be in heaven, they were not believers in anything except their own intellect. Westcott and Hort made sure that a rejecter of the Deity of Christ stayed on their committee.

[@gregsettle5880]

The KJV translators were (all Anglicans but one) and they believed in infant baptism, baptismal regeneration, salvation only in the church, the union of church and state, sprinkling instead of baptizing, persecution of dissent, hierarchical church government, a special priest calss, clerical vewstments and the "real" presence of Christ in the Lord's supper, Amillennialism and more......will they be in heaven O Great Judge Edward123?

[@edwardpf123]

They will be in heaven if they believed in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ by faith alone. Or are you saying no Protestants made it into heaven?