Pathological Gigantism and the Demise of the West | Senator Mike Lee

Pathological Gigantism and the Demise of the West | Senator Mike Lee | EP 346

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Ep. 346
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Peterson draws upon his extensive research and relatable real-life experiences to illustrate how to develop attainable goals for intimate relationships, meaningful friendships, and your career. Transform the chaotic potential of the future into actuality - with a vision.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Senator Mike Lee discuss the ever present conflict between Ukraine and Russia, the role of the United States in that conflict via proxy war, the rise of ESG investing, why the top investment firms do not care about your values, and what Senator Lee plans to do about it.
Elected in 2010 as Utah's 16th Senator, Mike Lee has spent his career defending the fundamental liberties of all Americans and advocating for America's founding constitutional principles. Senator Lee acquired a deep respect for the Constitution early in life while watching his father, Rex E. Lee, serve as the Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan. He attended most of his father's arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court, giving him a unique and up-close understanding of our government. Lee graduated from Brigham Young University with a degree in Political Science, and served as BYU's Student Body President in his senior year. Senator Lee serves as the Ranking Republican on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy, and Consumer Rights, in addition to serving on the Energy and Natural Resources Subcommittee on Public Lands, Forests, and Mining and the Committee on the Budget.
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:46) Intro
(2:37) What is the West aiming at?
(4:12) The reasonable case for war
(6:25) The US perspective
(9:54) Over 100 billion
(11:30) Collusion and a lack of oversight
(14:58) We are basically at war
(16:22) Who are the recipients of our money?
(18:10) Are NATO countries at risk?
(22:44) Governance by single pixel tweet
(25:50) Caught in the bandsaw
(29:35) Why aren’t we negotiating for peace?
(32:11) The story Americans are told
(36:39) Fentanyl and other pressing issues on the Homefront
(37:55) Biden and the Red Stage
(40:14) Why speak up on Russia?
(41:35) Is this a Republican issue?
(44:37) Wars are used by governments to consolidate power
(47:55) If Trump were president right now…
(48:48) Desantis and needed skepticism
(49:35) The need for a concrete plan
(52:35) Ukraine wants to take back Crimea
(54:26) The meaning of the Third Commandment
(58:55) Eternal truths and undeserved virtue
(1:03:10) Social credit: the future of monetized virtue
(1:04:55) The problems we collapse into a singularity
(1:07:10) ESG’s and gaming the system
(1:08:05) A resolution of disapproval
(1:09:54) The lies of Vanguard and Blackrock
(1:14:59) China and the free market
(1:18:23) On a collision course with reality
(1:21:15) ESG discussion will be a major campaign point
(1:22:34) Vivek Ramaswamy: fighting back
(1:24:07) The American people will not take this
(1:25:32) Senator Lee’s priorities
(1:28:20) Decentralizing power
(1:30:55) Responsibility and hierarchy
(1:34:15) Finding happiness in one's work
(1:36:18) Brooding omnipresence
(1:37:09) Joy comes from advancing towards a goal
(1:39:31) Feeling the distance
(1:41:55) Closing remarks
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@Voteford Жыл бұрын

“Spending like a drunken sailor” should be replaced by “spending like a politician” because sailors can only spend what they have, but for politicians spending the people’s money, there is no end.

@babyfacemichael1 11 ай бұрын

President John F. Kennedy`s inaugural address "we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and success of liberty." Putin is Hitler , every time he sends a cruise missile into a block of flats , he proves it. Putin wants piece, Piece of Ukraine, Piece of Moldova, Piece of Finland, Latvia etc. etc etc, invasion, conquest ,annexation is what he believes in.

@tommythompson7941 11 ай бұрын

Lol!

@LindaHobby1 11 ай бұрын

I hate governments wasting $$$

@detacheddad3396 10 ай бұрын

Very witty

@janetcohen9190 10 ай бұрын

Excellent!!! May these be added to help elaborate your comment? Funded by perpetual taxes, levies, fees, usurping, extorting, abusing, stealing, from population all plus interest / usury. To assure endless indentured servitude, chattel serfdom, slavery now and into future generations. Coupled with various tools, forced behaviours, and ie, eugenics, euthanasia MAID

@nomadicwolf6132 Жыл бұрын

These lectures should be a weekly part of every level of the public education system. I've learned more about the world, psychology, geopolitics, & history watching these lecture alone, than I did in all my soul-sucking mind-distorting years in the school system.

@IrelandVonVicious Жыл бұрын

Why? This was probably Jordan's worst video in the last year. Anti-Russian propaganda sprinkled everywhere. They keep saying Putin is bad but never say why. Their view on the war is incredibly shallow.

@saimbhat6243 Жыл бұрын

You should have gone to college then. You don't have enough time and necessity to learn these things in school. Or there is a thing which people used to call books, you can use them to learn about complex questions and ideas.

@nomadicwolf6132 Жыл бұрын

@@saimbhat6243 I have chosen a path that avoids the borderline communist college system along w/ the financial enslavement of student debt. I have grown & curated my own library, developed my own methods for note taking based on mental models & recollection research. I study with an open mind the subjects that interest me, not the skewed socialist doctrine of universities. I'll be paving my own future with the skills not taught in universities, like critical thinking, self-discipline, & proactive goal setting with aims beyond that of the corporate machine; such as self-actualization & self-fulfillment. Anyhow, good luck w/ your student loans, my sarcastic elitist snobby friend.

@t3dwards13 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry. But this discussion is extremely one sided, and leaves out much information.

@beneficentnature9356 Жыл бұрын

@@saimbhat6243 "Or there is a thing which people used to call books." What do people call books then? I still refer to a book as a book, and I've never heard of someone being lost for words when viewing a book.

@stas2711 10 ай бұрын

The most amazing thing about this interview is that neither party tried to articulate what are Russia's goals in this conflict. They talked a lot about how to define West's victory, but to my mind, the very minimalist definition of a victory is to at least disrupt the enemy's plans and prevent the enemy from achieving his/her/their goals. And, obviously, that cannot be achieved without a clear understanding of what these goals actually are. P.S. And, of course a gem like "Russia's been a problematic country for the last 150 years" is so amazingly Anglo-Saxon-centric, that I just burst out laughing. It exactly mirrors Russian perception of the role of Great Britain and USA in their history. Another interesting phenomenon, that I would think could merit a discussion from an eminent psychologist :) .

@branchcovidian754 10 ай бұрын

Your post comically uninformed and blindly naive.

@user-qd3wr6el9o 10 ай бұрын

То что человек хороший психолог не говорит о том что он хорош скажем в геополитике политике истории... в своей сфере Джордан Питерсон вполне интересен...но когда он заходит чуть дальше....столько чуши несёт из мейнстримных СМИ Запада...просто капец... проблемная страна на 150 лет ...блин да мне пол часа времени не хватит по верхам описывать то что их Западные элиты с нашей страной и народом творили за эти годы... Россия не всегда была жертвой...но в большинстве случаев к нам приходят за различными ресурсами...у нас стараются отжать "жизненное просстранство" распространить свою "веру" и так далее...много разных предлогов которыми покрывают геноцид и массовое разграбление... Джордану Питерсону в России помогли вылечится...НУ УДЕЛИЛ БЫ ВРЕМЯ ТОМУ КАК К ПУТИНУ И ПОЧЕМУ ОТНОСЯТСЯ...на Западе врут о том кто он...что он делает...и тем более врут почему они так его ненавидят

@Silentrainfallz 10 ай бұрын

I totally concur with your statement of obvious facts! The West has been brainwashed into believing Putin is so bad, yet several Presidents of the US came to mind when they state this about Putin. PLEASE ARTICULATE WHY you think Putin is such a terrible person and leader. I want TRUE FACTS on this perspective. Im so tired of being called a Putin shill, when EVERYONE just repeats rhetoric about the man. And please, Mr. Lee, correct yourself in saying that MOST US CITIZENS are for this WAR ON RUSSIA!!! Because it is NOT SO!! Please educate yourselves on the ongoing battle in the Donbas Region and the slaughter of Russian Ukrainians, the ban of news agencies, the jailing of the US reporter because he spoke out against what UKRAINE is doing!!! And yet, the President of this mans country doesnt even speak about it nor defend the man. This is ALL criminal!! And to speak of it in the way you two do is such a travesty!!!

@Mhm5213 9 ай бұрын

@@user-qd3wr6el9o1:14:55 productive peace with Russia. The truth is that the Americans have an adverse mentality against authorities which leads to a baffling chaos called “the media” also known as the fourth estate (voice of the public and fourth branch of the government). We are a young nation with many conflicting narratives. In our childish attempts of social security we have trashed valuable relationships with the our multiple cousins (nations and cultures of the earth)(American as a global diaspora). We’ve done each other wrong and the rest of the world from a fear based narrative of nazi infiltration, authoritarian systems, and nuclear arms race. Bombpower is an excellent book on this subject and so is operation paperclip. American and Russian relations is beyond west vs east or even north vs south. America and South American / Russian and Southern Asia. America does not have the social structure, “yet!” To confront the horrors we have to face from the manufactured issues we have created in response to our own security fears. This conversation is the beginnings of reconciliation and a confrontation of the hypocrisy. This is not the venue to continue this conversation however better venues are incoming. Basically y’all are just trying to get a bunch of crack smoking neo nazis off your front lawn, this is a very shallow statement but is it close to accurate?

@user-qd3wr6el9o 9 ай бұрын

@@Mhm5213 Да в основном "крэк" американский...но заметь друг что с точки зрения кто и что делает мы не лезем на другую сторону планеты чтобы "защитить свои жизненные интересы" так поступают элиты Западных стран

@brainswole101 Жыл бұрын

The intro to this is no joke. I'm trying to make a positive change at my job. My managers openly dislike me. I've been ostracised from having a successful future in this company. I'm exposing the falsification of state documents as well as the harassment I've endured since. It's definitely been nothing less than an incredible experience/journey. Thanks Mr Peterson?? I think? Lol One thing i can say is it has made me hard as nails and hellbent on finding truth

@Webbs576 Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work sir! Your also an inspiration.

@brainswole101 Жыл бұрын

@@Webbs576 i never thought about that...honestly. thank you, sir.

@abaker4692 11 ай бұрын

Good work, friend.

@bradrainier106 11 ай бұрын

You’ve joined the likes of Trump.

@ryszardochucki9975 10 ай бұрын

The report of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights accuses Azov of war crimes: looting, unlawful detention and torture (and not only them, as far as the Ukrainian forces are concerned. The Wolfsangel, or wolf's hook, is also a well-known neo-Nazi symbol, previously used by the Wehrmacht and SS. However, the Azovs explain that it is an abbreviation of Ідея Нації, i.e. "Idea of the Nation".

@shriharsh9065 Жыл бұрын

Sir, I'm from India.. In a very remote place.... But trust me what I'm doing today is because of you. There are so many so called motivational speakers... But what I get from is so authentic and natural... I can't explain that. I wish I would meet you one day. You've saved my life and now I'm gonna save many people

@JordanBPeterson Жыл бұрын

do it

@persapientiam3818 Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBPeterson please research autoasphyxia it might help you especially if you don t take precautions

@adamvicari3295 Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBPeterson Dr. Peterson: is there a reason you have to couch otherwise sound and good life advice in the context of an asinine, pointless, archaic, fraudulent, and morally repugnant ancient fairytale, also known as the ten commandments of the Bible? God is not real, he does not exist, and more people than ever before recognize this and recognize the Bible for the sham and tool of mental oppression that it is. If you are going to give life advice, why don't you just give the advice and bypass all the mystical, supernatural nonsense and mumbo jumbo of religion?

@dimitriosfromgreece4227 Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBPeterson JORDAN PETERSON ,, THE RESPECT IS 100% THANKS FOR EVERYTHING JORDAN ❤️🙏❤️🙏 love from sweden Stockholm ( Dimitrios )

@suzannelaw2219 Жыл бұрын

@Doctor of Pharmacology & toxicology he's talking about his life being taken and he will found by hanging by his neck. Accused of suicide.

@jeffmenard5955 Жыл бұрын

Minsk accord was the first peace deal. Crimea--> Russia, Donbass autonomous states within Ukraine and Ukraine neutrality. That was the baseline in 2015

@johngill8407 9 ай бұрын

Where are the anti war demonstrations like we had during the Vietnam conflict the policy of demonstrations would help

@johngill8407 9 ай бұрын

Jordan Peterson I can see a goal alright it is the destruction of our republic and it is on a rapid trajectory

@johngill8407 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Jordan an over simplication of or say an easy virtue in ourselves jecstaposed opposit to the evil of someone who stands in the way of what we want is unconsionable

@MegaKimor 8 ай бұрын

It's so interesting that Jordan, always talking about getting to the truth haven't even tried in this particular direction

@RollinShultz 11 ай бұрын

Senator Mike Lee really held his own on logical thought here. I didn't know he was so well versed and even more importantly...awake.

@spacetraveller9399 10 ай бұрын

Repeating this both ignorant and arrogant statement that "Putin is bad" is not a sign of logical thinking.

@steveharmon6440 10 ай бұрын

Nope. Not really... he is a fool to much of the propaganda.

@SandySuzie 10 ай бұрын

Logical thought?! Is this how you call propaganda these days?

@RollinShultz 10 ай бұрын

@@steveharmon6440 your comment is totally out of line especially since it is neither concrete or specific to any one of the topics covered in the interview and it amounts to nothing but a flippant remark. I bet you can do better.

@RollinShultz 10 ай бұрын

@@SandySuzie I'll give you that both Lee and Peterson have a jaded view of Russia and Putin specifically, but Lee did well on noting we do not belong interfereing in the conflict. Is that the topic you were commenting on, or something else since there were a few and your comment is much too brief to know what you referenced.

@jacobgray676 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to say that, as a former drunken sailor, the government spends way worse than I ever did.

@ingabaranauskiene5889 Жыл бұрын

If you are so gready about your money, just give back Ukraine its nukes (and give Alaska back to russia).

@travisperry5288 Жыл бұрын

At least when a drunken sailor runs out of money, he stops spending. Not so the government...

@jacobgray676 Жыл бұрын

@@travisperry5288 exactly

@paulcarter7930 Жыл бұрын

Yes, but I bet you spent it on things worthwhile, like women and booze

@jacobgray676 Жыл бұрын

@@paulcarter7930 I'm glad someone gets it!

@zwcdamien Жыл бұрын

15:50 he claims that Zelensky said it was dangerous to question how the money is being spent. What’s his source? The only source I can find is Zelensky saying “Calls to end US aid to Ukraine is dangerous” - which is definitely not the same thing!

@JigyoungPark Жыл бұрын

Same here. Been looking for the sources for a couple of days but have failed to find one.

@ShadowfuryTheOne Жыл бұрын

he lied of course.

@stephencox1841 Жыл бұрын

You wont find a source because he's lying to push his own personal/political agenda and Peterson has provided him with a platform to do so.

@makswais3012 Жыл бұрын

He is shilling for Russians, like c'mon guys. Its not that hard to spot.

@cfcwhite Жыл бұрын

Zelensky never said anything like this. On the contrary, he said just a few days ago (and I think not the first time) that the US already has full overview of how the financial and military aid is being used. So an additional audit will simply slow things down without providing any additional insights.

@markiobook8639 10 ай бұрын

Much appreciated advice and wisdom. Thoroughly recommend Colonel Douglas MacGregor- last tank battle of 20th century hero of 73 Easting. Major Scott Ritter, former weapons inspector. Petty Officer Patrick Lancaster boots on the ground reporting from the literal frontline, balls of brass.

@valentynknyaziev3524 10 ай бұрын

Yes, Scott Ritter, the same guy who is a convicted sex offender and a Russian propagandist...is that a credible source of information?

@educgr 9 ай бұрын

Love the way the man says Putin is a villain? I just can't find any evidence of this statement.

@zartic4life 9 ай бұрын

The best from all of them is The Duran especially Alexander. Judge Napolitano should get some credit also for bringing awareness.

@markiobook8639 9 ай бұрын

@@zartic4life 100% agree- Brian Berletic, Duran (Alex Christoforou and Alexander Mercouri), Col. Doug MacGregor, Maj Scott Ritter, Judge Napolitano, Ray McGovern, PO Patrick Lancaster- your Nonanarchy of no nonsense.

@zartic4life 9 ай бұрын

@@markiobook8639 also Dr John Mearsheimer and Dr Jeffrey Sachs (especially him given his past positions)

@danielhill5075 Жыл бұрын

My respect to Senator Lee. Thank you for being brave!

@stephenmiller-wb2ul Жыл бұрын

Senator Lee is apparently not brave enough to openly confront the Satanic child Sacrifice of Utah's and other American children.

@DocnoXXX Жыл бұрын

This is the idiot senator who fell for an obvious excerpted video of Zelensky that was carefully edited to make it appear that he (Zelensky) was saying that American troops would be dragged into the Ukraine-Russia War. In fact, Zelensky had said that if Ukraine falls, then the Baltics may be next, at which point American troops will be obligated (under NATO) to become involved ('so it's in America's best interests that Russia doesn't triumph over Ukraine'). But Senator Lee heard what he wanted to hear, and rather than checking the veracity of the video, jumped on it to further his misguided narrative. A complete fool...

@piotrekmajkowski5422 11 ай бұрын

Brave on what? He is just threatening.

@thaitraveller9756 10 ай бұрын

He's just another one of these american polititions that thinks putin is a monster, but unlike Biden ,putin has helped the people in the dombas area whereas Biden has ruined the economy in america sending corrupt money to a corrupt regime in Ukraine at the expense of his own people I live in Asia now and 80% of the globe supports russia or is neutral the rest in the west just do what they are told by the media The phrase God bless america is very apt because it needs a complete overhaul from the corruption in Washington Start helping your own people instead of trying to push your values on others

@ryszardochucki9975 10 ай бұрын

After the war, the OUN circles operating in exile conducted a systematic action of changing history. In publications, studies and memoirs, the topic of cooperation with Germany, participation in the Holocaust and murdering Poles was omitted. The OUN and the UPA were presented as noble organizations fighting for a free Ukraine against two enemies - the Third Reich and the USSR. An idealized image of Bandera was also built as an outstanding politician, leader of the nation, thinker and noble fighter for freedom. All those who recalled the Ukrainian collaboration, participation in the Holocaust and the Volhynia massacre were called Soviet agents. Rossoliński-Liebe

@iam.introspect8456 Жыл бұрын

“The goal is an endless war, not a successful one” -Julian Assange

@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын

Amen

@waynehendrix4806 Жыл бұрын

"I would like to leave Russia" - Julian Assange

@MrHuddo Жыл бұрын

@@waynehendrix4806 Are you confusing Assange with Snowden?

@waynehendrix4806 Жыл бұрын

@@MrHuddo "Whatever dude." Everybody has white hair now. Now I extrapolate that someone in the Kremlin is in this chat. I'm currently not replying to their emails regarding Geek Squad invoices.

@MrHuddo Жыл бұрын

@@waynehendrix4806 you’re actually a lunatic. Christ almighty

@brentedgerton9469 Жыл бұрын

I felt like this was somewhat misleading/misinformed. If I paid $1m for a tank 30 years ago but sent it to Ukraine today, it will be marked as $1m spent on the war. That's fine from an accounting perspective, but it means simply stating totals is not representative. In many cases, those weapons (for example, the M113) were no longer suitable for American use anyway. Their value to us was as good as scrap, so on an open market we wouldn't be able to get the full value from the weapon. Many of your points seemed correct, but I felt like I should point out this one. Thanks for what you do!

@blackmass4925 Жыл бұрын

You cynically forget the value and cost of human life.

@scootyburgman55 Жыл бұрын

Ukraine have to pay back most of money.

@thomaskelly336 11 ай бұрын

Ukraine has lost this war,, however you do the accounting

@12crenshaw 11 ай бұрын

3:40 you could say that about Poland in '89. Are we really going that road? Ukrainian culture is not that of an Afghan's. They were constantly interfiled with being under influence of Moscow. It's not cheap flag waving unless you think Baltic states, Poland and all of eastern Europe is not supposed to be independent states just because they were conquered before by imperial russia. Roots of those countries dates back more than a century ago.

@yuriyboyko8856 Жыл бұрын

As a person from Ukraine who moved to the US about a year ago and previously a big supporter of JP ideas - I can notice a few things: - Poor understanding of Peterson and Senor on what is really going on in Ukraine. And on the history of Russia - Ukraine "interaction" over the last 2 decades. -A heart and mind full of fear from Senator side that doesn't let him to even say what he wants to say. -Basically, their idea is to trade peace with Russia, let it take over some territories and continue trading pretending nothing ever happened. But hey, I think we've been over such a scenario with Georgia, Crimea, Donbass and it didn't end up well. Also, completely disappointed when Senator or JP would use some vague information (like UA tanks planning to get to Moscow) and make a conclusion from it.

@69misst1 11 ай бұрын

With all respect, as someone who is from Europe and looked into it, there is a lot more involved in Ukraine especially around its history that makes it a very complex situation as you pointed out. However, this is why the ukraine good, Russia bad scenario is so nefarious. It’s simply not that straight forward and peace should be sort where possible. The rhetoric from the US and NATO was not helpful and fuelled the start of this war, and they appear hell bent on continuing it without discussion or peace talks. I think claiming the interviewees are ignorant to it is emotional and not correct and it does not change the fact that all possibilities should be tried - and not just claim that it wouldn’t work.

@wiktorad-xx8bs 11 ай бұрын

@@69misst1 What is wrong with you? Explain to me, how can you justify attacking a sovereign country, that you gave promise to not attack if it country gives up it's nuclear arsenal? Ukrainian people DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA. Do you understand that?

@Garlic_Jinger 10 ай бұрын

@@wiktorad-xx8bsи здесь вы, попрошайки. Жёлудь будешь?

@Tyanus2 9 ай бұрын

@@69misst1 What do you mean that the situation is not that straight forward? Russia invaded all of Ukraine they wanted to install a puppet goverment over ALL of it not just Donbas, if not for Ukrainian military and Ukrainian civilians actively supporting their country then, there would be no free Ukraine ever. There is NO excuse for that war.

@winstonskafte5505 Жыл бұрын

God bless you for using your platform to try and bring truth and peace to this era of fools and evil .

@loosebruce6637 Жыл бұрын

Winston,. Excellent observation.

@annadomini2008 Жыл бұрын

As a person, who has lived in Russia for 45 years, I can say, that even though all your considerations are very interesting and as far as I can humbly tell correct on the American side (ha-ha, how arrogant is that), it's still surprising for me to what extent western people tend to look onto Russia and Putin through some kind of distorted glass, I mean through some "western lenses". And it affects their judjement and conclusions to a great extent. And it might be one of the reasons all this is happening in the US now. Russian mentality is totally different from American, and I've come to believe that without living in it for several years you can't form any correct opinion on the processes that take place there. You can't get the right picture just from the books or from conversations with some people. It's dificult even for the Russians, for example, to understand Putin's intentions and state of mind (because he has been sitting in his Ivory Tower for so long now), but at least we know where he comes from and how he was formed, from inside. And that's why I can tell that even the most educated and wise speakers don't see the whole picture. (Sorry for my mistakes in English, I hope, I managed to convey the point).

@uniquename846 Жыл бұрын

Ok, so I have got a few questions for you. So, I guess I am mainly of English/upper European descent, though with a little east European. My ancestors may have got here, in america, around the time of the mayflower. What I do know, is that they did not want to remain England English. They wanted to identify with a new country. And today, I can't think of really any american, austrailian, canadian etc. who is thinking at this moment, "I really wish I could become a citizen of England, because my forefathers were English." So does that mentality then apply to the Russians living all around the world today, even those in the Donbass? Like me, though I am technically English, do they also choose to forget their old country? If that is the case, and so they are like me in that regard, then it cannot really be proved that those Russians in the donbass and crimea all really want to still identify with russia, as russian russians. Do you know what I mean

@ImpressionsFromEverywhere Жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's painful to watch Peterson speak with authority on something he clearly has a very limited understanding of. Unfortunately, that's been happening more and more.

@ingabaranauskiene5889 Жыл бұрын

@@uniquename846 You are thinking in the right direction. I am a Lithuanian and I thought I knew Ukraine quite well, but since the beginning of the full scale invasion I've got really surprised by the number of pro-Ukrainian native Russian-speakers I on the Ukrainian TV and KZbin cannels. The identity of a native-Russian-speaking Ukrainian is really a fact and now it looks to be prevailing even in the unoccupied part of Donbas. When it comes to the occupied part of Donbas and Crimea, things are much more complicated; however, even the infamous Igor Girkin admits that they have lost most of those who were welcoming "the Russian spring" back in 2014 - first and foremost because they never even tried to instate a just government and/or improve life quality in the occupied regions. So, I have a strong feeling that those regions might welcome the Armed Forces of Ukraine with much more passion and sincerety than one could expect.

@Steve-qt9ce Жыл бұрын

Your on the right track Anna, For Americans like me to make moral judgement on Russia and Russians is just plain stupid. Nobody died and appointed us god. Most of us are just led around by the nose; by the media, self-interest type leaders and pop culture. Its a pretty sick society to be judging anyone.

@thecannibalrobot Жыл бұрын

@@uniquename846 If your ancestors went to America on the Mayflower, the didn't "move abroad seeking to identify with a new country." The Mayflower was in 1620, at which time the colonists still considered themselves thoroughly English. The US didn't become a separate country until 1783. A new national identity didn't really develop until sometime after that. Your ancestors simply moved to an English colony on a new landmass. With regard to your point about Russians outside of Russia, it's a complete sequitur. These Russians are indigenous to the lands on which the live. They didn't move there, fleeing Russia. It just so happens that after the fall of the Soviet Union, they now had a new arbitrary border drawn up around them and separating them from Russia.

@janehoadley1022 Жыл бұрын

I agree, with Nomadic Wolf, these discussions should be essential listening, it would encourage thinking deeply about important issues and the results would definitely help society and international relations. I admire Dr Peterson.

@Beorn567 10 ай бұрын

Id love to listen to a discussion where there is some sort of disagreement and not just full on agreement on how we should all submit to tyrants.

@kristiankastberg1748 8 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@joecowan20 Жыл бұрын

Uhhh remember weeks before the war when China and Russia declared their presidential love for each other? We didn't drive Russia into the arms of China....they found each other before the war. Did we just collectively forget that or are we leaving this point out on purpose?

@joecowan20 Жыл бұрын

Jordan...please reach out to Peter Zeihan re Ukraine. It would do some good for everyone that watches your content.

@drongomaster Жыл бұрын

There are many points left out here and unfortunately it almost feels like Jordan is pushing an agenda

@stephencox1841 Жыл бұрын

@@drongomaster it's not almost like Jordan is pushing an agenda, he is. Very disappointing.

@kentl7228 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. If Russia goes well in Ukraine, China feels happy to give for the Taiwanese nation.

@jamescollier847 Жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂 Yeah! And Joe “Hide me in the basement” Biden and Co would never do that would they!!!😂🤣😂🤣🇷🇺⚔️👋🏻

@MountainView21 Жыл бұрын

I was disappointed with how shallow this conversation was. They had good topics and questions but glided over them.

@bryanolson4350 9 ай бұрын

Excellent. Excellent job bringing to light the concern of a lot of American people!

@ml4173 Жыл бұрын

I like how JBP blesses the efforts of the people he interviews. Doesn’t matter who they are. He did the same to Chris Rufo. Dont get me wrong, I love Peterson, I wish he’d tell me godspeed when I described my project to him, but its kind of funny. Someday he’s going to interview someone who he just completely misjudged and I bet he tears him a new one, but he mostly so far interviews smart people that like freedom so there is only so much of a point of contention.

@justsaiyansteve Жыл бұрын

This long format style of debate and discussion is truly missing in the public media sphere. Thanks Jordan and Mike.

@solarlight10 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, this analysis and depth is severely missing from our mainstream media. This might be more opinionated then some people like and not everyone would agree. The way JP breaks things down is refreshing to say the least. Moderate fan-boy I'll admit.

@Ryan-sl8mw Жыл бұрын

But yet you just watched one in the public sphere 😂. This format of discussion has been growing drastically recently

@USGrant21st Жыл бұрын

It was not a debate. Debates assume adversarial confrontational exchange of opinions. And that's a big problem of this discussion, there was nobody to challenge the faulty logic, wrong assumption, and invalid data. I wish this were a debate and somebody knowledgeable could retort the irresponsible statements made here, there was so much wrong said about the war and it will further mislead many, who listened, and who know even less about the topic.

@ShadowfuryTheOne Жыл бұрын

this is not debate. They have the same opinion. Peterson is afraid to debate with person, who knows what's going on and what is good for USA, and why Ukraine needs to be protected.

@USGrant21st Жыл бұрын

@Bielie Van Die Bosveld the funny thing, the tube often filters out valid and truthful comments, while allowing the stupidlike yours to be shown.

@ChristopherWentling Жыл бұрын

The vast majority of U.S. money was in the form of weapons/ the vast majority were old equipment but still accounted for at replacement cost.

@giorgiaw Жыл бұрын

Thank you both for an interesting discussion.

@barbaraherda9212 Жыл бұрын

Just started the video, which seemed to start in the middle/late part of the story, imho. Example, 6:31 “what’s the plan for victory?” I’ll be extremely disappointed if not even one word is mentioned about how, in both Crimea referendums, the people voted to be with Russia in 2014. This is NO DIFFERENT than when Quebec had two, yes two, referendums, about whether to separate from Canada. Majority voted to stay. “Certain” individuals “challenged” the “process”, and the 2nd referendum had even more people vote to stay a part of Canada. Im pleased to report that no one invaded and forced a different end…

@ralucaganga1974 Жыл бұрын

Dear Mr. Peterson ...I am a big fan of yours from Romania and as a Eastern European, I beg of you to listen to our perspective. Russia in all its iterations has been an existential threat to all Eastern European countries ..whether it had been the Russian Empire, the USSR or Russian Federation, Russia expanded 88 sqkm every day for the last 300 years. It attacked Romania and the principalities that preceded it, 17 times in our history. It carved our countries' teritorry to its will and acted since its inception until today like a imperialistic juggernaut. Poland has dissapeared for almost 140 years in the Tsarist Empire. All Eastern European states have suffered tremendously under the Russian yoke - only in USSR, there have been millions of people going to Gulag and starved by the Holodomor famine. When finally in 1989 we had a chance to rejoin the European family, we did it without looking back, glad that the "big Bear" was weakened. Being in NATO was our best guarantee for national sovereignty (and by our I mean countries such as Poland, Romania and the Baltics). Both economically, socially and politically, countries of the East EU have made incredible progress (My country had a 800% economjc growth in the last 22 years). We developed also a civil society, going and protesting each time our politicians were not respecting the rule of law. We managed to put many of our corrupt politicians behind bars. You say Ukraine is corrupt? It sure is - but it will be 100 times less corrupt under the Western sphere of influence than under Russia's tentacles. EU has rule of law control mechanisms and it slaps the wrists of any state that doesn't respect the democratic principles of separation of church and state, separation of state powers, rights and liberties etc). If anything its the KGB leftovers who fuel corruption and secrecy because of their ties to Russia and the FSB (successor of the dreaded KGB). Ukrainians had 2 relentless revolutions wanting to break away from Russia's tyranical regime - and wanting to allign themselves with the west - from a principial point of view - it wants to break away from the post USSR oligarchical tradition and attempt to be more like its Eastern European sisters, who are all, shining examples of democratic and capitalist success. They could witness the fantastic devellopment happening in the new EU countries and how things started moving both socially and judicially. When you say that Ukraine is tied to Russia historically, that may be true for the Eastern side, but Western and Central Ukraine are far more similar to Central European countries like Poland, Slovakia and Czech Republic (both linguistically and culturally). There is more linguistic affinity in between Italian and Romanian (77%) than in betweem Russian and Ukrainian (62%). Western Ukraine has been part of Poland, Hungary, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Romania, thus being culturally intrinsicly linked to the Central European Civilization. However, even Eastern Ukrainians in their large majority don't want to be part of Russia, even if they are Russian speakers. It's easy to see why - what Russia has done to its neighbours only in the last 30 years is unspeakable - it attacked Moldova in 1991 and controls it through the anachronistic stalinist Transnistrian "region". It attacked Chechnia twice and completely flatened the capital Grozny and they killed 150 000 civilians. It attacked Georgia in 2008 and took 20% of its terittory. It attacked Ukraine and took Crimea...Then it moved to take the Donbas. Russia will not stop at Eastern Ukraine - it will move to take most of Ukraine up to the Carpathians as well as Moldova, The Baltics and possibly North - Eastern Romania (Western Moldova). Please stop appeasing a war criminal - and don't sell Eastern Europe to the Russians like the West did after WWII at Yalta.Yalta has been a unbelievable tragedy for Eastern Europe, the effects of which can still be felt to this day. We in Eastern/Central Europe, if anything are the most logical allies of US/Canadian conservatives - we believe in classical liberalism, freedom, right to self determination and definetily wokeness has not permeated our societies like it did in the West. We, if anything, are as societies "vaccinated" against communism and its "benefits" and we have seen how much capitalism has benefited our countries. We need US conservatives to support us and not to use us as a political token against the US democrats. It's not a Left vs Right wing issue here - but an issue regarding if we want countries to have the right to sovereignty and self determination or not. Is it morally acceptable to appease a country behaving imperialistically in the 21st century? Should we create a precedent and let big countries have their way with smaller countries? Wouldn't that create the greatest precedent for China to attack most countries in Asia Pacific based on some "invented" historical clause? In Eastern/Central European countries the political spectrum from Left to Right is united in identifying Russia as the existential threat and as the "de facto" aggresor in Ukraine.

@ShadowfuryTheOne Жыл бұрын

The closer country is located to russia, the less illusion is there about russia's good intent. Thanks for your stance from a fellow Ukrainian. Hopefully this is last struggles that russia can afford with their assets like peterson.

@ralucaganga1974 Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowfuryTheOne All that landmass and still that is not enough for the Russian regime. They say you are family to them, but they have no qualms flattening your cities! They say you are the fascist ones, yet they are the ones calling you "Khokhol", they are in fact harboring neonazi groups like Wagner and Nocni Volki. And if Ukraine is so neonazi how come in tge 2019 elections the coalition of all hard right wing parties got only 2.32% of the vote? The westerners somehow eat up all the Russian propaganda without knowing it. I hope Ukraine wins this war soon and gets to reclaim its place inside the European family and rebuild itself from the ground up with help from the EU ! Russia can go back to the Stone Age it came from! Slava Ukrajini!

@aga5109 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your stance. I fully agree with your points. I'm from Poland. We helped a lot of Ukrainian refugees. They are all well integrated in our country & many returned home. There is approx.1,5 million of Ukrainian refugees in Poland at the moment. We have to bear a huge inflation as a consequence of being very involved, bordering country. We don't want Russian imperialistic appetites to expand and, as a consequence, to annexe more and more countries. It is a real threat to this region. We will help fighting Ukrainians as much as we can. They are paying an enormous price for their and not only their freedom. Dr. Peterson, l admire your work. I am a psychologist, psychotherapist myself. I identify with most of the things you speak about, but with all due respect, l doubt that you have thoroughly understood the specifics of our region. You have never lived here through these turbulent times & don't understand our peoples' sufferings and fears. It is too easy to preach from the comfort of your wealthy and safe home. Please educate yourself more.

@glennv3176 Жыл бұрын

I live on a fancy strip of the côte d'azur in France and while I don't support Russia's war, I do have *serious* questions about corruption in Ukraine. I had *never* in my life seen a vehicle here with Ukrainian license plates, I didn't even know what a Ukrainian plate looks like. Today every underground car park is full of supercars, maybachs, bentleys and rolls royces with Ukrainian plates. All the best clubs and nicest restaurants parking lots are full of yellow/blue license plates, in st raphael, cannes, nice, monaco, st tropez. I am 100% convinced most of the nato aid to ukraine is finding its way in millionaire/billionaire hands. I can just see it out here on the road, this isn't normal.

@ralucaganga1974 Жыл бұрын

@@glennv3176 Every country has rich people and when war comes even rich people have to flee. Incidentally your area attracts rich Ukrainian refugees, poorer ones went to Moldova, Romania and Poland.

@jonathanpersson1205 Жыл бұрын

Jordan, I would love to here a discussion between you and Denys Davidov to see the other side of the Ukraine situation. Denys is a Russian speaking Ukrainian who came from near Sevastopol in the Crimea he runs a KZbin channel which gives the pro Ukrainian perspective on this war.

@siren369xstar8 Жыл бұрын

Davidov is an ethnic Russian who love to be a slave for karen America! Karen America is trying to turn Ukraine to Israelistan 🤣

@user-wm5rt9pw5l Жыл бұрын

@@siren369xstar8 What's wrong with being new Israeli?

@hectorzero8545 Жыл бұрын

Everyone has heard the "Ukrainian" perspective to infinity and beyond at this point. I'd prefer a pro-Russian perspective. You can hear pro-ukranian perspective on any of the hundreds of channels and interviews broadcast in the west.

@crugerrr Жыл бұрын

@@hectorzero8545 What perspectives you expect from the side which publicly hates and despises the West since '07 (infamous Munich speech)?

@aarongoodwin4845 10 ай бұрын

Very interesting conversation! I absolutely concur with Senator Lee on his Raines Act! 100%

@ashvandal5697 8 ай бұрын

This is absolutely the conversation I wish I could be present for.

@jasonhiggins6236 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr peterson . I know for certain you've helped me on such a personal level.. I'm nearly 40 years old and list my father at age 6 to homicide. I've needed to hear an articulate male talk about how to behave as an adult male my entire life obviously.. please keep up the great work and the fight therein

@jsharp9735 Жыл бұрын

Listen to the Gospel of John too, its incredible.

@kx7500 Жыл бұрын

Cringe

@jsharp9735 Жыл бұрын

@@kx7500 In one word we all know you're ignorant internet leftist. Like sooo criiinge !

@bubbag8895 Жыл бұрын

@@kx7500i have your addy

@kx7500 Жыл бұрын

@@bubbag8895 come get me bish

@jimparr01Utube Жыл бұрын

I really appreciated your interpretation and discussion on "Do not take the Lord's name in vain". It gave me much food for thought. The good Senator was a very welcome surprise in respect of his views and well articulated viewpoints. So many non USA citizens around the World (of which I am one) have become disenchanted with American politics and their disastrously dangerous power-plays in the last few decades. His forthright manner was a breath of fresh air.

@lookatthatleaf Жыл бұрын

Me too! I went to catholic school and definitely dont ever remember this interpretation but this makes more sense to me, why it’s the first commandment. I always thought it was weird that swearing had a whole commandment to itself, seems like it would be included in honor of your mother and your father.

@sharoncochran8508 Жыл бұрын

People say OMG every other word. I don't think many realize how serious it is. They are breaking the first commandment. Words matter.

@rogertorgersen9995 Жыл бұрын

I too had never heard this interpretation. It makes so much more sense than what I had been taught. Claiming that God is behind you while you commit acts against others is a far greater sin.

@smartestmansays2157 Жыл бұрын

His forthright manner was a breath of fresh air. Jct: Support for Nazis never sounded so good.

@sagegallagher Жыл бұрын

@@smartestmansays2157 In what way was any support for Nazis put forth?

@redhorizons8696 9 ай бұрын

Thank God we have people like Jordan Peterson! Let's stop this madness, no to NATO, No to supporting the war in Ukraine!

@swyft_lvlx1165 11 ай бұрын

I just really pray the people who are in positions to control the spending at these high levels, actually are down to sit and watch these discussions, don't see themselves as "above this", and actually take notes and implement them because they are right.. whether they are your "constituents" or not.

@chazzmckinney4414 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson you need to get Stephen Kotkin and Peter Zeihan on to discuss the Ukraine/Russia issue. Bring them both on and have a discussion. Many of your questions will be answered.

@jsharp9735 Жыл бұрын

You think Russia is losing ?

@jsharp9735 11 ай бұрын

@@chazzmckinney4414 Its still 7:1 in favor of Russia. Its still Wagner that has done most of the fighting and hasn't deployed its traditional forces yet as Ukraine has been ground down. Its still Bakmut that is captured by Russia now. Its still the fact that the collective west has drawn down on stuff to send that they actually need. You will bring up missiles and the like, but in reality its just optics and doesn't change anything. Ukraine can't fight without ammo and it will still take till 25 for the USA to increase its shell production and its STILL not enough to what Russia can produce today and not enough again for what they will produce in the future. What key battles has Ukraine won ? Other than optics based on false media narratives ?

@jsharp9735 11 ай бұрын

@@chazzmckinney4414 By the way Peter Zeihan flat out makes up Russia's intentions and motives for their SMO and the context of the situation. He makes up a lot of stuff and is not worth listening to. He is the muamaud hijab of geopolitics. Much of the information in the pentagon leaks was known for MONTHS using deductive reasoning using public information from channels that know what they are talking about. People got called a "kremlin propagandist" for simply pointing this stuff out that the USA government was lying about the entire time. Much like the leaks in Vietnam where the war was actually not going well either. I have channels recommendations if you're interested.

@ujbecker Жыл бұрын

Stephen Kotkin defines victory vs. Putins Russia very concrete and thoughtfully.

@kaka2nd62 Жыл бұрын

Killing off Russians and taking their resources? That's what it sounds like.

@56username Жыл бұрын

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@sbaumgartner9848 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ulrich for knowing about Stephen Kotkin. There are several very credible scholars re Ukraine/USSR/Russia etc. from the USA and Europe. Since I don't read/speak European languages Stephen Kotkin and Timothy Snyder get my ear. I stay away from John Meirsheimer amap.

@zwcdamien Жыл бұрын

@@opinion4755 indeed - he should invite Kotkin to talk with him

@ingabaranauskiene5889 Жыл бұрын

He could invite someone from Ukraine - there were plenty of Ukrainian intellectuals who were seeking to have an open talk with him after he came up with his first "lecture" on this matter last year. But it looks like our favourite professor has no courage to face them.

@gratefulprepsnj 9 ай бұрын

I’m surprised Senator Lee did not mention Convention of States. He is a supporter and something that will resolve most of the issues discussed here.

@mariamichael1669 10 ай бұрын

Dr Peterson you’re so spot on

@blist670 Жыл бұрын

Thank you JP. You have sparked new life in me. As a father I am incredibly thankful to your teachings

@peteroz7332 Жыл бұрын

as a foreigner for whom English is not the first language/mother tongue - today I have learned at least 3 new words: arcane, amelioration, vociferous... there were a few more, but now they escaped me... thank you dr Peterson

@chrisdelcastillo4645 11 ай бұрын

Such a great talk. Love the truth fellas

@gennarinabyrd1402 11 ай бұрын

As a Canadian, I'd like to see George Galloway on this program.

@jsharp9735 Жыл бұрын

Jordan, interview Alexander Mercouris from the duran. His historical geopolitical knowledge is IMMENSE.

@jladdyost Жыл бұрын

Jordan is absolutely right that personal ESG scores are coming. A presenter at the World Economic Forum was BRAGGING about exactly that.

@ID_iKONIC_VIP Жыл бұрын

This person that had a NDE saw the future and it happening in 2024..... Along with turning towards digital currency

@persapientiam3818 Жыл бұрын

termites dont have any dignity

@JenAniston69 Жыл бұрын

And yet they’re here to control what you and I do, think, eat.. no shortage of “good” ppl nowadays 🙄

@MortenJArcher Жыл бұрын

I belive the person bragging about that was from China.

@andraslibal 11 ай бұрын

We are in serious trouble as even JP and senator Mike Lee do not understand what is going on.

@ensorcio1 11 ай бұрын

I am a Polish citizen and I adore mr. Peterson. But I believe he is out of his depths with this topic. The European perspective on this is far more complex. The above conversation is simplistic and very general. I suggest mr Peterson familiarize himself with the Polish perspective, since after Ukraine we are next. I recommend the work of geopolitician dr. Bartosiak and the Strategy&Future think tank, for starters.

@motherrussiaisspeakingitst4965 9 ай бұрын

If Poland will keep doing what they doig, they are...

@dennisk648 Жыл бұрын

Jordan's view on Russia-Ukraine war is very weak.

@user123qweqw3 Жыл бұрын

he just doesn't want to fight.

@dennisk648 Жыл бұрын

@@user123qweqw3 At least it must be articulated. Right now he is avoiding tough talks, which is not man supposed to do.

@siren369xstar8 Жыл бұрын

Yes he really loves peace🙏💖

@fortunefair Жыл бұрын

He's just applying normal psychology to the situation, rather than the alternative psychology of a communist mind. This is the key. Many westerners have been duped into thinking that Russia is no longer ruled by those with "ideological zeal and monolithic unity" as pointed out by soviet defector and KGB strategist Anatoly Golitsyn, and today's disinformation framing of Putin, at least towards the American conservative audience, is that he is a nationalistic Christian conservative who speaks out against wokeness" instead of an internationalist/communist reexpanding USSR territory through Ukraine toward western Europe. This would obviously change the analysis.

@kravchik_22 Жыл бұрын

When are we going to see any Ukrainian/Russian experts on your podcast?

@GabsVonTresckow Жыл бұрын

correct, neither JBP nor his guests know much about Ukraine and Russia, unfortunately,

@idigress7865 Жыл бұрын

@@GabsVonTresckow perhaps you should start your own podcast and get the facts out there! Go ahead. Step up. Sounds like you would do better.

@ryanken1013 Жыл бұрын

Never

@JenAniston69 Жыл бұрын

Uk/Ru experts? Compared to who? Is there an authority with exact knowledge of the matter? When things shift from day to day? Wrong question man!

@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Жыл бұрын

@@GabsVonTresckow I suppose you do.

@bobmnz6914 9 ай бұрын

IF we sat back and let Russia take Ukraine. Would that be the end of Russian aggression? Or would it just move the battle front closer to Europe? I think that is the most probable. Putin is after territory. He didn't stop with Crimea. What makes you think he will stop with all of the Ukraine if he gets it?

@oleksandradmytruk 5 ай бұрын

They are fools that think they know it all. Have you ever seen Peterson talking to a Ukrainian at least one? No you haven't. Because he's afraid to hear what Ukrainians got to say to him. But he would rather speak to all sorts of people who have no clue about Ukraine and its history with Russia. So there you go. Peterson is not God neither he is a Messiah. He fails too.

@IvanKolupaeff 7 ай бұрын

Dear Mr. Jordan. I'm Russian. I left from my country 5 years ago. Yes, it's reasonable to assume that Russia presents a credible threat to integrity of the NATO alliance and the West outside the specific case of Ukraine. Keeping strong Russia and not helping Ukraine would end up in such a disaster in comparison to which Nazi's Germany would seem to be a peacemaker. So, the goal is to weaken Russia and to help democratic forces in Russia or even make Russia split into pieces. Yes, it's challenging future. But it's the only future (hope to be wrong) which might give hope to this world. Did you ever see Pugachiov's interview about Putin?

@oleksandradmytruk 5 ай бұрын

This is a fascinating thing to read from an actual Russian person. Thanks for that. Greetings from Ukraine 🙏

@IvanKolupaeff 5 ай бұрын

@@oleksandradmytruk Thank you! I wish I could have done more... I have many friends in Ukraine. 💙💛

@notsomeanmark Жыл бұрын

The rigorous defense of free speech and platforms that support free speech is of the utmost importance. Free speech and access to pertinent information informs the public. Democracy REQUIRES an informed public.

@jamesf4076 Жыл бұрын

I think you should interview Colonel Douglas MacGregor on this subject. Would be an immensely interesting interview

@didiermaquet 10 ай бұрын

Please try to interview someone who deeply knows Russia, like Scott Ritter or Colonel MacGregor

@bradrainier106 11 ай бұрын

Amazing conversation regarding the war between Ukraine and Russia and the silence of no interest in a peaceful resolution.

@user-wm5rt9pw5l 10 ай бұрын

Everyone is interested in a peaceful solution, but only useful idiots want to do it at the expense of Ukraine.

@dalatina911 Жыл бұрын

Wow thank you for this! As a Utahn myself, I have recently been looking into our representatives here so this couldn’t have happened at a better time! Thank you both! So grateful my state has an awesome Senator like Mike!

@56username Жыл бұрын

@gingernutpreacher Жыл бұрын

Utahn?

@jeannieevans4780 Жыл бұрын

@@gingernutpreacher People from Utah are Utahns.

@jlllx Жыл бұрын

terrible people live there. all sociopaths

@austinfitz6214 Жыл бұрын

Bu😮please

@Eckyhade Жыл бұрын

WoW!!! Senator Mike Lee…you’ve gone from someone I didn’t know to someone who I love like a brother.

@56username Жыл бұрын

@johnbaker6125 Жыл бұрын

I like Mike Lee, he is generally down to earth and uses common sense, therefore the left hates him. I'm relatively happy with our senators too from Indiana although one is stepping down to run for Governor in 2024.

@ctedone Жыл бұрын

Good that you made it here. However, Mike Lee has been speaking up more than most in politics for a few years. Did you miss him because you didn't pay attention, or was the media you prefer to consume keep his viewpoints from you? Mike Lee is a household name for conservatives.

@chrischristenson4547 Жыл бұрын

I certainly agree that the finding success and doing consequence analysis is critical in any endeavors and essential in war. It is clear that we have not done or at least not communicated our definition of success and our analysis of consequences. Senator Lee is correct that the Senate is the place to have this discussion or at least the place to center this discussion. For a considerable period of time, Putin has reminded me greatly of Hitler in the '30s. I do not see Putin stopping until he is stopped. I do not see any way to stop him other than to confront him on the battlefield and defeat the Russian military. So success is: eliminating the Russian ability to attack in Eastern Europe, returning Ukraine to the borders that we guaranteed when the Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. It seems to me that we have forgotten that in order to give the Ukraine security while giving up its nuclear weapons we guaranteed them. Sadly I guarantees were a bit ambiguous. An honorable country would not hide behind ambiguity. It is hard to believe that Putin like Hitler will honor any commitments he makes. I am sadly remembering Neville Chamberlain returning from Germany saying we have assured peace in our time just before world war II. I hope US leadership has the wisdom and courage to act more like Winston and less like Chamberlain

@james-deanshaw-walker5764 10 ай бұрын

A discussion between Jordan and Peter Hitchens regarding this subject is needed - both intellectuals, who are respective experts on Russia and it's history. Would be a deeply fascinating watch and incredibly educational.

@psychlops924 Жыл бұрын

As a resident of the State of Utah, I wish we could clone Mike Lee and make him both of our Senators, our Governer, and have him on the Supreme Court. Principaled, informed, willing to stand up against the monoparty power system. Too bad there's only one of him.

@monicaheathfield8020 Жыл бұрын

Daniel (in the Old Testament) was only one man too.

@56username Жыл бұрын

@glenmacdonald3477 Жыл бұрын

The Monoparty of Mike?

@johnnyblue4799 Жыл бұрын

As far as this discussion revealed, I say "Too bad there's even one of him!". The guy is clueless.

@MrBoysOG Жыл бұрын

Reject anyone put forward by aipac

@Basieeee Жыл бұрын

Jordan is actually a really good podcast host

@cameroncarter6789 11 ай бұрын

How is this WW3 though? It isn't.... It's the Russian Ukraine war. No other wars or conflicts will occur after this and Ukraine will loose the war.

@davidlazell2186 11 ай бұрын

The Ukraine had its nuclear weapons negotiated away by an alliance with the Americans Russia and the UK which guaranteed there safety if invaded by Russia,Russia would not have invaded if the Ukrainian still had its nuclear weapons. So it was a con on the Ukrainians by the west to keep the arms race going for benefit of western arms makers

@BruceGatten-rk7el 11 ай бұрын

You can say that again. 😊

@ryszardochucki9975 10 ай бұрын

"Hands, legs and heads cut off with axes, people torn by horses and nailed to doors, bellies cut open by pregnant women, wells filled with bodies - all this cruelty shown in the movie "Wołyń" can be taken literally. It was so." Quote from the article. The cult and fanaticism that surrounds the Nationalists of the OUN-UPA and SS Galizien in Ukraine, who are responsible for the genocide against Jewish and Polish civilians during World War II. Let us condemn the cult of cruelty and hatred.

@ivanangeli 10 ай бұрын

he is amazing host

@Hannie7440 Жыл бұрын

good discussion

@rickyflores703 11 ай бұрын

Great analysis guys

@DCRPATRIOT Жыл бұрын

Wonderful conversation and thank you both. I am encouraged to know that men like you are standing for truth and liberty, when the world seems to have gone mad.

@jimmysorensen8451 Жыл бұрын

I will always respect you Doctor Peterson. Your advice got me out of the hardest times in my life so far! I’m sure there’s more ahead but thank you

@brandyj794 Жыл бұрын

Yes, me too 🍊

@andrewcanady6644 Жыл бұрын

That was cool of you to show some gratitude like that, man. Gratitude is a superpower. He has helped me, too. Aloha. 🤙🏽

@artemmatviienko8789 10 ай бұрын

What Peterson is good at is preaching to the choir. Several times he and the guest senator spoke about the lack of discussion and understanding of the US involvement in Ukraine. So why not invite those who have expertise and experience in this region like prof. Tymothy Snyder, Stephen Kotkin, amb. Michael McFaul etc. and try to set a discussion about what constitutes a victory, what Ukrainians are fighting for, what is Putin motivation and goals, what are US options in the conflict etc. No, we would rather speak about Russia, Ukraine, Putin, Europeans, WW3, nukes with some Utah senator who has no idea what is going on out there in Eastern Europe, just propping up his arguments and occasionally throwing in I'm not expert in this

@TerribleShmeltingAccident Жыл бұрын

Ty Dr Peterson for demonstrating to us all how a REAL MAN moves in this world!🙏🏻❤️

@shriharsh9065 Жыл бұрын

Yesterday I heard your biblical lecture.... It was fantastic and piece giving... You're an avatar for me.... I know I'm in despair right now.... But I will keep fighting.... Sir from the bottom of my heart I love you... I truly love you

@alanaadams7440 Жыл бұрын

Try Jesus

@thelegendarychannel4303 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Doc. Thanks Senator

@ericbrunet3370 10 ай бұрын

I wish you guys could do one of these podcasts with Elon Musk. I think he would be a vital piece in the civilization of humanity puzzle. This was an awesome podcast. The thing I love the most about it is the honesty. Thank you, Dr. Jordan and Senator Lee.

@John-uh8kl 9 ай бұрын

Yeah honesty, in the face of Putin's aggression, cowardice.

@tedmadu5383 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson. All do respect in all the great work you do and have done, in all of your podcasts. Have you listened to historian Seephen Kotkin on this topic.? Well worth the listen SIR.

@tedmadu5383 Жыл бұрын

Peter Robinson of the Discovery Institute " 5 more questions" for Stephan Kotkin.

@sbaumgartner9848 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ted. If I had to pick one person to go face to face with JP it would be Stephen Kotkin.

@superzaibas5000 Жыл бұрын

I am from east Europe and long time Peterson fan. But this is very very very hard for me to listen.

@atg131000 11 ай бұрын

The major problem, which is omitted in the discourse, the imperial ambitions of Russia, the last Empire.

@jacquerowe5948 9 ай бұрын

It was a great interview. It goes into suggestions and possible outcomes and clarity in relation to the war and especially the esg except in the latters regard it is suggested that the esg will become more unpopular and be a major discussion prior to the next election, however, by then it may already be in place, in which case It could be much more difficult to resend. It's Time People start to care to the point they're willing to shoot off a quick email to their representative detailing concerns and withholding their vote. Self-interest will encourage them to reconsider their position however there is only a few months leeway so one needs to do that today considering it took a couple of years to get the word out in relation to c19 etc

@trendriven Жыл бұрын

I'm grateful for sharing lifetime with such a generous person as Doctor Jordan Peterson. You raise an extremely important, essential topics in your podcast and public lectures. Thank you 💜

@billcook6039 10 ай бұрын

What makes him generous?

@gravitascascade5798 Жыл бұрын

"What is the aim?" Deterring wars of aggression by imposing a heavy cost on the aggressor. There's more to be said of course, but that will easily suffice.

@dannyc.jewell8788 11 ай бұрын

@@avae5343 I am sure there are some

@AyoT7 11 ай бұрын

@@avae5343that’s a fine point and all, but that doesn’t mean we accept it in Ukraine too. They are separate issues

@crewcrewdin6891 10 ай бұрын

Thanks keep reporting stay strong great show

@pest_predator_nz 10 ай бұрын

Some real gems in here.

@cooleg4eg Жыл бұрын

I didn’t expect such a shallow discussion from someone like Dr Peterson. Why don’t he invite an expert to talk about this? Multiple experts! It’s a first time I wasn’t able to finish listening Dr Peterson’s podcast.

@HOLES69 11 ай бұрын

Agreed. L on this one.

@williamschlass6371 11 ай бұрын

"Experts" like the medical "experts" who said c19 vaccines would somwhow prevent transmission?

@senorsteele7746 10 ай бұрын

I agree on this 100%. I have massive respect for JP, but this was proper shill session.

@SandySuzie 10 ай бұрын

Agree 100%

@trinawitte8625 Жыл бұрын

Follow the damn money… it will tell you all you need to know. Let’s also not forget the intentional Afghanistan debacle. Thank you Dr. Peterson for having this important conversation!

@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын

I agree, but isn't it ALL the debacleS ??

@scottwatrous7649 10 ай бұрын

Great interview.

@colemarsh13 Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir

@crazymategaming6510 Жыл бұрын

I am very happy and proud to call Mike Lee, my senator

@Let_there_be_peace Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@xtop23 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic dialogue. I applaud the congressman in stepping up and offering a sincere discussion. Thx to you as well Dr Peterson

@jzed5 Жыл бұрын

Honestly seriously disappointed about such shallow discussion. I would like to remind what Mr. Peterson told in opening remarks during hos discussion with Zizek in 2019. It was about responsibility to evaluate facts and what take responsibility what if they are wrong. Here were multiple incorrect facts stated which led to fully wrong discussion. 1. is that there are no understanding what does this means victory. It is fully clear - withdrawal of Russian army from all occupied territories, Providing security guarantees for Ukraine and neighboring countries that it will never repeat and prosecution on ones who started this war. Second wrong assumption is that world need Russia and mainly it's resources. Sorry - World can easily live with out Russian resources. It is already proven in Europe that they can easily live without Russian gas and oil. In general what I see is that if someone brutally beats and robs another person, then Mr. Peterson and Mr. Lee agrees that it is OK to say to attacker - stop it - you can have his valet, but please return phone and leave in peace. Really?

@irinamaltseva5138 11 ай бұрын

I think Jordan views that vision of victory as completely unrealistic, and there is no realistic alternative as far as he can tell. There is no way Russia will agree to lose and withdraw. The risks of a nuclear war escalate in that case. That would not be a victory for anyone.

@franzkafka293 9 ай бұрын

Your views are those of a Banderist Nazi.

@zeusiphus3377 11 ай бұрын

This got so deep after they started talking about the meaning of the Third Commandment. Even if you completely remove the religious aspect of it.

@daffodilfleur Жыл бұрын

Wow! I’d love to hear Sen. Lee and Jordan Peterson speak again. This was very interesting & I was not bored for a second. They’re both so knowledgeable and are an insightful pair to observe and listen to. They’re different, but very evenly matched, in so many respects. I loved the thought collaboration.

@yonasadal5312 Жыл бұрын

With so many errors intentional or otherwise.

@lordbendtner7021 9 ай бұрын

That clown being a senator says everything one needs to know about the US.

@SpankyK Жыл бұрын

My Senator right there. Love this guy.

@npoliver2757 10 ай бұрын

Prof Jeffrey Sachs and Cnl McMcGregor Prof John Mersheimer are just 3 Americans who can answer so many of your questions Why are they not being interviewed?

@SOE_ABeats 11 ай бұрын

Doc helps me sp much

@juliemunoz2762 Жыл бұрын

Great discussion, congress needs to have meaningful debate and fulfill their duty.

@56username Жыл бұрын

@solarlight10 Жыл бұрын

I don't get the impression from Mike Lee that is happening at all or will happen anytime soon. Seems like most of the debate and decision making is done behind locked doors...

@user-wm5rt9pw5l Жыл бұрын

The United States is doing its duty to Ukraine now.

@richarde.halliburton8022 Жыл бұрын

I disagree with several points and assertions made in this discussion: 1. The Russian-Ukraine conflict is repeatedly referred to as a "proxy war." I would like to hear the case made, either by Mr. Peterson or Senator Lee as to how this is an accurate characterization. The way I see it, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the aid being given the latter in the form of financial and military assistance by the US and other Western countries is intended, at least primarily, to aid Ukraine in defending itself against this invasion. Yes, there is a strategic objective behind this aid, but is it illegitimate? If, on the other hand, Ukraine had invaded Russia, particularly with the encouragement of the US, and the US was now aiding Zalensky in the same way, yes, I would call that a proxy war. For example, in 1940 when Nazi Germany invaded Russia and the US began sending massive amounts of military aid to Russia to help it fight the German army - was that a proxy war between the US and Germany? How about the massive amounts of aid the US gave Nationalist China during its long struggle with the Empire of Japan from 1937-1942 (that is, before the US formally declared war on Japan)? Could that be characterized as a proxy war between the US and Japan? Was the American Revolution just one big proxy war between France and England? 2. At one point in the conversation Sen. Lee states that the US has "driven Russia into the arms of China (perhaps not an exact quote but essentially what he said)", the implication being, if the US had done nothing in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, it would have been better for us because Russia would not have felt the need to strengthen its (already close) ties with China. Well, the US and the western world, not to mention the UN, did little when, in 2014 Russia invaded, occupied, and annexed The Crimea - did that keep Russia from getting closer to China in the intervening years from then up to the current war? Also, if the US had decided not to aid Ukraine in order to avoid "driving Russia into the arms of China", with the resulting defeat of Ukraine, would that have been preferable, strategically, to closer Russian-China ties? 3. I'd like to ask both gentlemen their views on what Russia did regarding The Crimea - was the US response appropriate, and did it lead to a good outcome for Ukraine and that part of the world? I think it can be argued that by not responding, strongly with military aid to Ukraine at that juncture, the US and the Western Alliance has, in fact, by basically looking the other way given Putin the go-ahead to do what he has done - pursue further aggression against Ukraine and annexing more of Ukraine's territory. 4. In this conversation the situation in the Russian-speaking provinces of Ukraine was described as one in which the Russian-identifying people living there suffered systematic persecution by the Ukrainians, implying that Putin felt compelled to "come to their aid" through the military aggression he has unleashed. Really? So - forget about the UN and other international human rights institutions that constitute non-violent means by which such injustices can be addressed, and support the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a reasonable and just response? That is what you're implying by the comments you make on the issue. I suppose, then, that Hitler was also justified in his 1939 invasion of Czechoslovakia to "protect" the German-identifying population that, according to Nazi propaganda, were being persecuted. 5. Jordan Peterson repeatedly states that the current government of Ukraine is corrupt beyond measure. It seems that the facts back up such a statement. However, Mr. Peterson, by emphasizing this point so strongly, seems to be implying that that means Ukraine is not worth defending in its war with Russia. Here's where global interests come into play, in my view: if, however imperfect and/or corrupt the government of Ukraine is, it is allowed to be defeated, subjugated, and dismantled by Russia, then the Western Alliance has a real problem on its hands. One would expect what remained of Ukraine afterward to fall into Russian influence and possibly made a vassal state. That is not in the interests of Europe, the US, and the free world. Furthermore, what would the implications be for other former Soviet states that have since become independent, such as Georgia, and former satellites, such as Poland and the Baltic States? How might the defeat of Ukraine, especially if it were just accepted by the West, influence China's strategic thinking about Taiwan? I have other comments and questions, but that's enough for now.

@JustAskTheAxis Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your articulate and well considered reply. I believe your reservations are well justified, and I appreciate the effort you made to clear the air.

@ESS284 Жыл бұрын

The idea that it is corrupt beyond measure is a bit of an oxymoron imo. Is it less corrupt than say Russia? More corrupt than the US? how could you even know if it is beyond measure. I think that you are ceding the narrative to repeat that soundbite as a concession before making your points.

@opodobed Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@franzkafka293 Жыл бұрын

Unadulterated Ukrainian propaganda. No one writes more pretentiously and exhaustively while presenting nothing but fantasy, than Ukro-Nazi shills. The only war you will, temporarily win, will be the propaganda war. But that is only because you are the proxies of the already finished liars of the Collective West. Ukraine will be erased from the map by its own actions.

@sbaumgartner9848 Жыл бұрын

A Dutch friend has also mentioned Ukraine's corruption. My response was it takes decades to reduce corruption after being under the control of an autocratic (whatever you want to call it) failed state for so long. Even 1st world countries have corruption. Ukraine made it clear before the invasion that they were looking to Europe and the west to model their future under. They just needed and now need even more time. There is no future for any country to look at Russia as a mentor.

@grantbrendon 10 ай бұрын

Here is my worry and I’m not a highly educated person but I’m a huge history fan….we have seen this type of behavior before from dictators especially those who are able to convince the masses of the righteousness of the cause. Now I live in America and our country has a history of being isolationist play boys and this is still a view held by many of our enemies now on top of we don’t even know what boys and girls are….so if you were a dictator wanting to expand and take back areas your country lost because in your opinion previous leaders were “soft”……why wouldn’t you raise your army and allies and take over as much as you can? I mean we have clearly seen this time and time again. I mean at some point we have to understand evil men don’t play by rules and they don’t care who tells them to stop only way we have seen dictators like Putin be stopped is by standing together with our allies and say ok no more and use the carrot and the stick. But as Captin Picard said “We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!”

@suzanneguiho4882 Жыл бұрын

« Putin is a bad guy… »! That would fall under the category of projection!

@carlerike Жыл бұрын

I live in Sweden and was born in 1946. I am truly grateful that my mother's classmates in Lethbridge, Alberta travelled half way around the world and helped liberate Europe and end WWII. I remember the uprising in Budapest in 1955, the spring uprising in Prague in 1968, the erection of the Berlin Wall. Living close to Russia we have learnt to not trust Russia. I am truly grateful that the Baltic states are free, that Poland is free and so many other former Eastern bloc countries. And I am also just so grateful for the support provided to the people of Ukraine. There is always a risk involved when you do the right thing. - Things could still go wrong. That is not a reason to be weak.

@DR-vy5jp Жыл бұрын

Hey Carl, I fully agree with you. Cheers from Germany.

@the2ndcoming135 Жыл бұрын

🙆🏽‍♂️🍿

@GM_- Жыл бұрын

And so the fact that Ukraine bombed the Donbas for eight years and killed thirteen thousand people must be quietly swept under the carpet. Slava Ukraine!

@ingabaranauskiene5889 Жыл бұрын

Tak Swerige from Lithuania. You have always been a true friend.

@iuriim.6350 Жыл бұрын

It were Ukraines, suppose. Not Russians

@richardskelton5119 Жыл бұрын

He is not a bad guy, he is a human being and has good and bad, if you encourage the bad, you will probably get it!

@Ben..... 11 ай бұрын

Jordan you have to get a hawk in on these conversations. there's many points where even I could have added some information. it's not a clean issue and it's not responsible to act perplexed.

@JonasKamp94paakratped Жыл бұрын

Ouch. It's an unusual experience for me to disagree with you @Jordan Peterson, let alone find your statements to be way off. I deeply respect you and have followed your work for years - I don't see a reason to change that by the way. That said, I find your viewpoint on Ukraine disconcerting and I worry about the effect it could have on your audience. I write from the perspective of a Dane married to a half-Danish, half-Polish woman whose mother grew up behind the iron curtain in Warsaw. For many years, I was among those who thought our Polish friends and relatives were simply paranoid and stuck in the past whenever they used to say that one day the Russians are coming. It turns out they knew something I didn't. Russians have a totally different way of viewing the world than we in the West do - watching 5 minutes of Putin or Lavrov commenting on the current war actually demonstrates this quite well. Long before NATO began pouring resources into Ukraine, the Russians were waging proxy wars in Ukraine and meddling in elections. There was even an assassination attempt on a pro western presidential candidate. What NATO is doing against Russia now, Russia has been doing to Ukraine for more than a decade. Also, if Ukraine is corrupt beyond belief, what is it that Ukrainians are so determined to fight for? Here in Europe, the news give detailed coverage day by day on the deployment of NATO resources by Ukrainian forces. For us, it is a matter of life and death, literally, to see Putin defeated, deterred and preferably deposed. Russia needs reform. They never had it - now would be as good a time as ever.

@lookatthatleaf Жыл бұрын

Psychological analysis hands-down excellent, I like the part about feeling morally virtuous without really having to do anything as a motivator. Very insightful

@shapshooter7769 Жыл бұрын

You will find that statement cuts both ways, my friend.

@Lessons4Life Жыл бұрын

Like staying home to save lives

@lookatthatleaf Жыл бұрын

@@shapshooter7769 You mean he’s subconsciously referring to himself?

@lookatthatleaf Жыл бұрын

@@shapshooter7769 Or that I do it to? I’m pretty sure I do it to to some degree, like I feel really good about recycling but who knows how much good that actually does but I still do it

@krisk7 Жыл бұрын

Wrong, this a video is blatantly clueless geopolitical perspective without any comprehension of real US interests while the host is masquerading as an insightful analyst who can see through the lack of substance. In Budapest memorandum US guaranteed territorial integrity of Ukraine. If Russia takes over parts of Ukraine than everybody who can - Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Australia, Ukraine (yes they know how to do it), Poland will have to obtain nuclear weapons as the only meaningful deterrent against Russia or China. What else if US turns out to be impotent. This will immensely decrease the power and relevance of US. Besides how naive you have to be to believe that Russia will stop this one time (see definition of insanity by Enstein).