Patrick Madrid & Fr. Mike Schmitz | Debating Same Sex Marriage

Patrick Madrid and Fr. Mike Schmitz delivered this debate on same sex marriage during the 2016 Steubenville Defending the Faith Conference.
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[@sharonhajjar1399]

I am Listening to this in January of 2024... wow.. this is more relevant now than ever. I will be forever grateful to Fr Mike for being so articulate and honest about what is a marriage. Everyone contemplating marriage should be required to hear this

[@jmj1852]

May the blood of Jesus cover Fr Mike

[@markkuhnlein3081]

That's a very strange thing to say lol

[@truegirl2anna]

God bless this man. I pray he has the courage and strength to spread the truth. Fr. Mike is such a great person, and Satan loves to attack men like this. Give him Your protection. Amen. God bless you all!

[@monk3245675]

I think he must be under God's protection. Why? Have you ever seen him in a bad mood? With all his media commitments, that God must be involved. But I agree with you True2Live this reply is meant to encourage you, others, and myself to continue to pray, pray, pray!

[@veronicarosangpuii7119]

Amen

[@alexaliszcz3899]

Amen!

[@truegirl2anna]

Wise words Fr. Mike, "We've felt our way through this issue, but we haven't thought our way through it."

[@powerliftingcentaur]

True2Live, here is the nub of the matter for me: As this isn’t science, do we trust our heart in these matters or do we trust our head? It is a great debate. For myself, I never trust my head over my heart. I have a hard time seeing any wisdom whatsoever in Fr. Mike’s words.

[@markkuhnlein3081]

@20MysteriesDominican gay women can lol also who cares? How does that have ANYTHING to do with whether it's right or wrong? 😂😂😂

[@markkuhnlein3081]

@20MysteriesDominican we have no reason to believe being gay is wrong. You might as well believe disease is caused by bad smells. We ought to know better than that by now.

[@patriciaperry7606]

Fr. Mike’s approach is the ‘Church of Nice.’ As Michael Voris would always point out. Fr. Mike does not see Society as a seasoned social/moral observer. He’s very much green, prayer has to become more important. 🙏

[@joyceburns7487]

I realize this is 6 years old, but more relevant today than ever. This is the most important conversation! I would highly recommend this to young (heterosexual) couples who are thinking about marriage, as Fr. Mike does a great job describing what marriage is. I don't know any one who is saying these things right now.

[@pastorbri]

because same sex marriage is a good thing

[@susana7334]

God bless and keep you and your family, Fr. Mike. Thank you for standing up to the truth of Catholic teaching with regards to same-sex attraction with compassion and love. God bless, sanctify, strengthen and protect your priestly ministry and the whole Catholic Church. 🙏

[@pastorbri]

catholics do make things up

[@TristandeLagasnerie]

We must pray really really hard for Fr Mike. Gifted as he is, he sure is a target of choice for Satan. Gifted as he is, a constant temptation for pride must tail him to watch him fall, literally every moment of his life. Let all the Saints and Angels pray for Fr Mike, keep him firm and humble in Jesus Sacred Heart for the sake of His Holly Church. ⚔️🔥🙏❤️🙏🔥⚔️

[@vidashea1051]

I'm

[@Giddyup11]

Amen to this

[@ladygrey8707]

Agreed!

[@pastorbri]

pray for homophobics

[@kbcamino7693]

This is old but I just stumbled across this. After being in the “gay lifestyle” over 20 years, I’ve chosen the path of celibacy now, and I don’t know if I can be of any service to you with getting this message out, but I’m willing to help if I can. God bless you men, we need more of this discussion!

[@elizabethpaul5876]

Fr Mike I think you did a pretty good job explaining with quotations from the Bible and also talking heart to heart understanding the complex issue. It was not an easy debate but the Holy Spirit guided you very well.God bless you Fr Mike!

[@richiestan8925]

I'm an Indian too..I loved this talk sis

[@mariabazi3218]

H hi

[@rosinatroise7628]

Thanks God for your servant Fr Mike .May you be glorified through him , also I prayer for those suffering in anyway (not understanding)about the union of marriage )I prayer that you may have insight and understanding.fr Mike explains it beautifully bless all who read this ❤️🥰

[@NinjaPro57]

Hey everyone look at tha bozo comment

[@barbararatcliffe1505]

Fr Mike You are truly a man of God.God Bless you

[@pastorbri]

homophobics however are not men of God

[@villegassanchezfamily6861]

Such an important, current topic truly deserves to be re-uploaded with higher volume so we could all hear. Please oh pleeease!!!!

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

How is it current? You been hiding under a rock? Same sex marriage has been alive and well for a few years now.

[@squeakypistolas]

This is such a fantastic conversation- thank you

[@ginjnadela1666]

I am motivated to continue with my training in Biblical scholarship mow! Thank you so much for this forum!

[@jamesseary236]

Father Mike !!!! That's our Catholic priest on his way to sainthood !

[@johnpaulgarcia9501]

James Seary Saint Michael of Minnesota

[@ihab1780]

Father Mike is already a saint

[@yummy8560]

Tommy Williams can’t help laughing mate. Guys still alive n m pretty lit

[@harpervalleypeeteeay9708]

Ewwww no way. Hes weird.

[@RobertTarasiak]

A saint IS a person who is born-again, saved per Jesus and the Apostles and is living even as the Word of God declares. Read the Bible! (2 Cor. 1:1; Eph. 1:1; Phl. 1:1; Col. 1:1; etc...I suggest you read the Bible which has more credibility than Romanism.

[@janet6379]

Best discussion of this issue I've ever heard!

[@Peteraddavideo]

The wisdom of God is far more valuable than a Phd.

[@malachycarson5846]

Phd is based on education, wisdom of god is based on superstition, mumbo jumbo.

[@Peteraddavideo]

@@malachycarson5846 Then why are so many educated people corrupt? and lack wisdom? why do they lack character and courage? An education in most circumstances prepares us to do a job and earn an income then we call ourselves what the job description is and once retired we refer to ourselves as "used to be"

[@malachycarson5846]

@@Peteraddavideo You are not wise, you contradict youself so much in one paragraph. 1. A priest is more educatated than a Phd. therefore you accuse those religious zealots of corruption and lacking of wisdom. You also persume that they lack wisdom and courage. 2. The religious institutions are the major cause of systematic child abuse. Please leave me alone, I can't be bothered with people that think Chaldean mystries, bastardized by Judaism, and then rebastardized by Roman Catachism them re bastardized by Prostantism to take the money from poor people to build mansions to live in and gold temples to worship in. You are not educated or wise, If you are educated then why don't you have basic critical thinking skillz and put myth ahead of peer reviewed science.

[@ritawing1064]

Depends where it's from 😉

[@johnferrone4231]

Why have "peer reviewed science" trans intellectuals turned away from biological truth to come up with mumbo jumbo like "gender fluidity" to justify unnatural sexual perversion and abuse of self and others? Or am I just "transphobic" instead of accurate ?

[@stldrew6810]

God , please continue to bless & protect Fr. Mike!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏 Huge blessing to the Catholic Church.

[@stldrew6810]

@Armi Hajos I will pray that you repent from blaspheming the Catholic Church, the one true church founded by Christ our Lord. I will pray that the scales are removed from your eyes so that you may see God's truth within Catholicism. I will pray for you brother that you will find that you are believing misconceptions about Catholicism and in turn , spreading error. May God Bless you in your journey !

[@pastorbri]

God won't bless sin and catholicism is a sin

[@stldrew6810]

@@pastorbri you comment could be considered a sin as you are blaspheming Christ's Church.

[@stldrew6810]

@@pastorbri what denomination to you claim to be truth

[@pastorbri]

@@stldrew6810 None.....just Gods word is truth old chap.

[@klausvonzeit8686]

Is it possible to turn the volume up? This is way too quiet.

[@laurants]

seriously, I've got the KZbin vol. amped up, the computer vol. at %100, and the external speaker tuned all the way up. I just hope an email notification doesn't pop up!

[@squeakypistolas]

Klaus von Zeit no unfortunately- I am playing via my Apple TV and just increasing volume via tv speakers and it's working better

[@Navygrl58]

Agree.....I had to put in headphones and it nearly blew my eardrums out. Use them if you have them.

[@JosephMadere]

Even with headphones in I can't hear. Apple headphones.

[@aliceyoung8146]

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[@benedictaang1875]

Growing in catholic faith and wisdom guided by Fr Mike and other Catholic priest out there 🙏continued prayers to you all 💕

[@lovrdesvancuylenburg6735]

Thank you Fr. Mike Schmitz. Brilliant explanation on marriage. God Bless You. Holy Spirit Thank you for giving him the Wisdom.

[@stephaniefreeamericancitiz1489]

So glad I have found this channel- reconnecting during Covid 19 pandemic and these learning opportunities have been wonderful-thanks for your message.

[@roflorida1]

Please re- broadcast this with the volume amplified.

[@johannaprice4880]

'"I am giving new a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other.Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples."

[@luciannagravel116]

Lord have mercy on us all! WE are not at liberty to add to our Lord's commandments!

[@jeffscully1347]

@@luciannagravel116 Jesus can't give another commandment?

[@EmbraceTradition316]

Please give something of substance instead of throwing your hate on these people who are trying their best to be loving while explaining the Catholic faith. If you aren't here to be open-minded it would be best to not comment at all. I pray you all find peace.

[@DualFrodo]

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[@charbelraish3122]

Zach

[@miriamcooper6732]

i hate how people always tell people who are against gay marriage to be more open minded or that they're being bigots or whatever but if you're respectfully presenting your opinions no one should say you're being hateful. HAVING DIFFERENT OPINIONS DOES NOT MAKE YOU HATEFUL

[@travisjohnson6676]

I pray you find truth

[@nytrayfl2]

I think a great compromise is to simply rename gay "marriage" to "civil unions," and apply the same laws and rights of a traditional marriage. This way, everybody's happy. Period.

[@christinebaca5409]

This debate is such a great way to pull the true hearts of same hearts in understanding the points of view on lost but not stolen or lost hearts. What a wonderful view to those who think Cathloic’s are so close minded to empathy. True display of representing the truth on both sides while representing the same side. Please do more of these debates.

[@Peggy_Lyons-tu1sj]

This has been a thoughtful, profound, and at times a light-hearted conversation. You've done a great job of making many valid and important points. Thank you.

[@MsHello2468]

I have never heard that point about biologial unity demanding a complimentary body and I have been searching this topic for a while. Such a good point.

[@noraabasta874]

I absolutely love father Mike! he is on my list of the top five most intelligent people I have ever herd speak. Having clarified that, this debate format left me wanting. The counter arguments are lame. I have herd Father Mike speak to this topic and has done a better job on his own. Because of the weakness of the "counter arguments" I shot at least three holes through them. I would love to see a legitimate debate with Father Mike with stronger arguments and a real opposition. I have to say in closing, I love father Mike, you are amazing thank you for speaking to this subject that hurts many Catholics.

[@glorisacilo1299]

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[@helenwoodward2690]

Fr Mike is a nice person, but he is not following Bible scripture and law. Jesus has not given any indication that things are any different. There are many gay people who aren’t so gay, they are traumatised and confused.

[@12354rony]

@@helenwoodward2690 And many more who are traumatized by people with mindsets like yours. When will people understand this isn't something to be 'cured' or 'corrected'? That they deserve equal opportunities and happiness just like anybody else and denying them that creates only more trauma, misery and depression? That a family is defined by the people you choose to invite and include in your life and not necessarily be related by blood or predetermined set of rules and values? I long for the days religion would bring more love and compassion to the world than hatred or division.

[@tagabulodchastityobedience7292]

Great Job Father 🕊🙏🕊🙏🕊🙏💛💛💛💛

[@kathleenlutz8122]

Thank you Father Mike !! That was wonderful for me to listen to ! Iam 83 years old and listing to you was wonderful 😮 God bless you always !! From Dayton Ohio

[@wendysantana511]

God bless you faithful servant of God, thank you Patrick Madrid! Lord please help all priest remain in the truth.

[@nofragmentado]

Thank you so much for this interacción of exercising back and forth on this huge matter. Thank you Patrick and Father Mike, because that’s what our gays brother and sister are trying to impose and defended. When is NOT defendable.

[@malver12345]

PLEASE increase the volume!!!!

[@ginaanelli9717]

I wish the whole world of every walk of life would watch this. All sides would be benefited..❤️❤️

[@lizameier3728]

Thank you Father Mike!

[@DW-gf7nd]

I like Patrick. He is a humble guy.

[@ginjnadela1666]

And he motivates one to read the Bible and study it as God's Word!

[@SofiaGonzalez-gv4gp]

Great job!

[@Devinantonyflynn]

The ultimate crossover that we never knew we needed.

[@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964]

Very inspiring debate but there are a lot to cover in the deepest way. This is for a start and keep on doing this. It's moral teaching Thank Fr Mike and Patrick.

[@johnkronz7562]

Is it really a debate if three people in agreement pick out arguments they disagree with and then pick them apart?

[@MrKingsley16]

If you don't care about something or someone, you don't talk about it or them at all - So a 2 hour talk about some thing, or some one, shows that WE DO CARE. We care about their souls and especially about the children they are indoctrinating or grooming.

[@mikemccarthy6719]

I'm from Michigan, wish I had been there for all of the topics discussed.

[@lgallo6864]

Beautiful - unfortunately microphones must have been too low. Worth it to process the video at a higher volume even if it distorts it a bit. Too important not to. My son volunteers to do that! :0)

[@hectthorno584]

I want Fr Schmitz to be the next pope 😊

[@pepitaxpatricia163]

Lol but true tho 😹

[@palmina77italiana]

....not sure many of the elders feel the same way about that. It would be dangerous

[@pythonfan3447]

Very far, but he clearly has the spirit to become one

[@Danaluni59]

We could definitely do worse

[@apracity7672]

@@palmina77italiana why dangerous?

[@dorismeyer3890]

WHEN I SAY IS NOT IMPORTANT IS ALL THIS WILL PASS, SO BEHAVE . DO WHAT GOD WANTS, MAKE HIM HAPPY DONT OFFEND HIM OBEY HIS LAW

[@79Jschoedinger]

What a difficult topic to talk about. So beautiful to see people arguing with respect and kindness. Very admirable. Healthy conversation is the key to understanding. Wonderful debate. I love father Mike, He is so energized, smart and full of love and kindness.

[@Ben-os7pm]

This was so well done. 10/10

[@johannaprice4880]

"We love each other because he loved us first...1 John 4: 19.0

[@tillo1981]

awesome job by the three of you gentleman! keep up the good work!!!

[@koolertrek]

I really respect the way this was presented. I follow both Mr. Madrid and Fr. Mike. They have qualities that my Lord Jesus has.

[@gerardaneice4693]

What a interesting conversation!!! It really helped me to understand about homosexuals in a Catholic point of view. ♥️

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

Still barbarian views

[@apracity7672]

@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax why are u so mad?

[@12354rony]

@@apracity7672 Is stating an opinion considered to be mad nowadays?

[@apracity7672]

@@12354rony You can express an opinion and be mad at the same time

[@12354rony]

@@apracity7672 Fair, didn't get the mad vibes here though

[@thereasonforthefaith]

I appreciated this SO much! It gives you great tools to better understand what truly marriage is. An Argentinian author called Nicolas Marquez comes to mind, he did this analogy: “You are not discriminating same sex attracted couples because you say they should not have access to marriage, otherwise it would be like saying we discriminate a blind person if the state does not grant her a driver’s license. They just do not have what they need in order to have access to marriage”.

[@markiemark8717]

To many Catholics, some of the marriages performed in church are not "true" marriages. Marriage is so that 2 may become one and create a family. Therefore, if one person already has kids with someone else or if neither person intends or is able to have children, it's not a "true marriage". For example, two people who have never been married but have children with other people, people who have been widowed but had children in their previous marriage, people who may not have children but are too old to procreate, people who are unable to have children or someone who has had an annulment but already had kids within the annulled marriage. None of these folks should be able to get married in church.

[@jackieann5494]

Please pray for Father Mike . The Enemy is trying to cause Father to fall , every minute of every day. The Devil HATES those who are used so mightily for God's purposes . PLEASE pray for him .

[@privateemail5870]

I completely agree! Can't believe people in the comments are defending that disgusting sin.

[@luciannagravel116]

@@privateemail5870 I am definitely not defending it.

[@victorscarpulla2478]

Thank You Lord For Father Mike!

[@3letitgo]

Great coni…thank you

[@kimfleury]

Some Father Mike Gems: "If we don't understand the sin, we will never understand the One Who bears our sins." (Wow. Thank you for putting into words what has been slowly and painfully developing in my understanding. To think that it took me a number of years, when all I had to do what listen to this sentence for it to make sense.) "If you can just do what you want, and it doesn't affect me, awesome. The moment it starts affecting me, now I have to stop feeling and start thinking." (Not at all dumb - it makes clear how relativism is an expectation that others will bear the brunt of effort or negative consequences for the acts of still others; it's the natural development of the self-centeredness of the Me Generation).

[@stephanmarcus448]

I live in Africa. Homosexual rights is a matter of life and death here. The morality that you are so happy to subject yourself to, kills people. The church continues to stigmatize gays and lesbians and has been very slow to condemn the violent homophobia that is endemic in many places. But as long as you're saved and on your way to heaven all is fine, right? It's the people who are being raped and murdered who are self-centered and are forcing others to bear the consequences of their actions. Right?

[@jerryrobertson4422]

@@stephanmarcus448 no, you're wrong. Thaink NATURAL LAWS of God. Try reading the writings of Saints Peter and Paul

[@stephanmarcus448]

@@jerryrobertson4422 God sanctions slavery and does not prohibit abortion. The church of today present both practices as sinful. In these cases the church learnt from society and seem to accept that the Bible was addressed to specific people living in specific circumstances at specific times. Modern homosexual relationships did not exist in first century Palestine or the Roman empire: the apostles had nothing to say about it, because they did not know about it. Current theology about homosexuality is just the church reading its present bias into an ancient text and in the process causing irreparable harm to countless millions. Do unto others and love your neighbour seems to be better principles to apply in this case.

[@josephwalkowski]

@@stephanmarcus448 your eisegesis is horrible, my friend. We can see prohibitions of abortion, prohibitions against the modern sense of slavery (further condemned by St. Augustine and the Church in the 1400s), and reproaches against same-sex acts. As for the murder of such individuals, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry for the opportunistic people who use Scripture as a propellant for such vile murder. I pray that all peoples may be approached with an equal sense of love and gentle correction.

[@MrJoebrooklyn1969]

@@stephanmarcus448 are u kidding? Read the Old Testament.

[@davidlonsway5784]

Gentlemen, another reason to be Catholic...because what you're saying is reasonable and just. It is clear and understandable without standing on the street corner screaming at each other. This is a cornerstone of the true church...it is of Christ. Thank you for your thoughtful, prayerful and gentle arguments. Praise Jesus

[@felyybay539]

Love the answer Father

[@debshirley6904]

Gotta love you, Fr. Mike ❤

[@champlax8888]

Patrick Madrid is my uncle btw. My mom is his brother and his son Steven was at my house over summer

[@rhdtv2002]

You mean he is your Mom's brother. Anyways - great uncle and I watch as many videos of him as I can. I was a Jehovah Witness so when someone can explain our Catholic beliefs with clarity like your uncle - its appreciated..

[@YohanBlake-hy7gb]

thats lit does your mom work at jserra

[@sarafakult6663]

You guys have to find a way to make these videos louder.

[@dcnnick]

It'd be nice to listen to this... but whoever recorded or uploaded it screwed up the volume. I can't make out anything.

[@junellesalmon9218]

Nick Cifonie headphones

[@martyvestal1222]

Father Mike is brilliant and a true man of God!!

[@lulubaniqued6883]

The debate was awesome except that the audio was very poor!!

[@adamhovey407]

THAT, my friends, is how you defend marriage.

[@splashpont]

Why does marriage need to be defended? People WANT to be married! Even same gender couples!

[@matthewcurley6198]

splashpont 2 people of the same gender simply cannot be married as they fail to meet the qualifications regardless of the laws passed. Definition of marriage has been and will always be defined by God as the union of a MAN and WOMAN.

[@feat.cicero4638]

Defend marriage? Is marriage under attack or what?

[@josephchapman9575]

@@disrupt94 How is marriage a right? It is a sacrament, it goes beyond the self. The fact that it 'predates Christianity' in no way devalues this. Legally they may be married, in the same way that a man can 'legally' be a woman. It does not make it a reality

[@disrupt94]

" How is marriage a right?" The government literally puts you down as partners legally, allows you to have shared wealth, tax benefits and even social security. It's not defined as a privilege, neither are there conditions set other than another consenting adult willing to marry you. In what possible universe is this not a right? Even inmates like Charles Manson retain the right to marry, But I don't see you complaining about that. " It is a sacrament, it goes beyond the self" Yes, as in a right belonging to two persons.

[@2Uahoj]

Such a pity to post a great conversation and nobody can hear it because the volume is messed up. Please repair it and post it again.

[@dianepaschall4587]

OMG! Your explanations with so much love have blown my mind. My stepdaughter is gay and “married “ and has a child. I had to take a 180 when I found out she is gay and redefine my idea of marriage because of her love for her partner. I will not deny their love but I will no longer call it marriage…

[@stevenchavez5979]

PSA...The volume does get better after the intro. Also try ear buds. Peace.

[@travisjohnson6676]

Every last verse, statement, order, proscription, directive, commandment, or mention of marriage in the Bible (OT and NT) was always and every where male and female, without exception. Every mention of male-male or female-female sex was condemned, without exception. Must be a reason for that.

[@stephanmarcus448]

The people of that time were homophobes? Or they had an equally poor understanding of homosexuality as they had of menstruation and made equally irrational rules about it?

[@travisjohnson6676]

or homosexuality is offensive to God

[@shnarklevonbarkle110]

Stephan Marcus "The people of that time were homophobes?" Given the health risks, probably. ----------------------- " Or they had an equally poor understanding of homosexuality as they had of menstruation and made equally irrational rules about it?" They understood menstruation better than most people in first world countries do today. Look at the Mosaic law which was part of their deal with God to become a people as numerous as the stars. When one looks how this was accomplished it make perfect sense. Under the Mosaic law they couldn't engage in sexual intercourse when a woman was menstruating. Why? Because of the unlikely result of a pregnancy taking place. In fact, the only time allowed was when a man's wife was ovulating. Lo and Behold, that's the best way to insure the best chance of conception taking place. So they knew plenty about a whole lot more than most people are aware.

[@disrupt94]

" Given the health risks, probably." Back then people attributed germs to demons.

[@junellesalmon9218]

Stephan Marcus The Bible said period blood was unclean long before we ever knew that. And it said to wash hands in running water. And the circle of the earth was hung on nothing.

[@acefrehleys]

In 2022 the battle lines are being drawn.n even more about this touchy subject

[@rickrouse7865]

I wanted to see this debate but the volume is too low and I'm not going to spend 2 hours straining to hear what is being said. Please fix the audio so I can back and see this later.

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

It wasn't a debate. How is it a debate when both parties think the same way. In another words both DON'T agree with same sex marriage. It was a sad attempt to make you people look like you give a shit when in reality religion has poisoned minds and tried to destroy common sense. You're all brainwashed fucking fools

[@reginasmith9155]

Sadly, I can't even listen to this because I can't get the volume up enough. So frustrating. I appreciate posting the talks, but there have been several Steubenville talks that are so quiet I can't hear them unless I stop what I am doing, and be in a silent room and also try to read lips.

[@Mrsjao2022]

Find out maybe your electronic device having some issues

[@lldlila]

Fr. Mike Schmitz made the case to keep Marriage between one man and one woman.

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

Thank Christ he and the rest of you lost that argument. All for the betterment of humanity.

[@chayanroychoudhury3091]

@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax That's why marriage is a sacrament.

[@bellaveritas2378]

In the end it doesn't matter what anyone thinks, it is ONLY what God's Commandments state we must obey in order to get to Heaven.

[@munteanubianca1386]

This is awesome. Thank you for your streight and I pray for you to always dominate the power of the devil who would try to win.

[@jean-paulwright4725]

WOW This gets us back to FULLNESSOFTRUTH!!!

[@miriamnagy2034]

Yes God love every person,but God give to us rules,and we have to obey His rules,it is not anger just follow God’s rules and not make our own 🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻✝️

[@gtbernardo]

It's unfortunate that the volume in this recording was not edited. I already maxed the volume setting on KZbin and my new macbook is in full volume (say volume 10). When the commercial kicks in, the sound just shocks me as it is so loud. When I return to the talk, it's like my volume is set to 2 or 3 -- yet the setting is still on 10. I had to find this and listen on my TV where I pumped the volume to 40!

[@bernadetteeberi2738]

Would you turn up the volume it is difficult to hear what the gentlemen were discussing... thanks

[@mrslaura990]

good job on the debate....Audio is really low

[@pmcclaren1]

Yes let's be all sweet and understanding won't we. Whilst sinners fill up hell. The loving thing to do is speak the truth in love. But if we all just try to get along is an hateful response for anyone in their sins and this blasphemy.

[@nickdon]

Stuebenville Still cant get the audio fixed even in the 21st century. We as catholics we need to upgrade ourselves when it comes to technology

[@luzamdg]

I don't appreciate the low volume. I listen to these videos while I do the dishes or clean the house with my headphones on, so imagine those loud ads causing your heart to stop from time to time and driving you deaf...

[@goshdamnbatman8578]

Yes Father Mike defend the faith

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

Good luck 'cause it's dying a quick death. It is no surprise though

[@YohanBlake-hy7gb]

Name And Address Supplied how so?

[@markkuhnlein3081]

If homophobia is part of your faith, you should leave it behind. Having said that, there is no reason one cant remain a christian AND be accepting and loving of the LGBT+ community.

[@christophersalinas2722]

@@markkuhnlein3081 you ARE supposed to be loving of lgbt people, like everyone. If someone divorces their wife should you hate them? No. Should you hate someone who is gay? Absolutely not. Should you encourage people to be divorced? (Excluding situations of abuse) no. Should you encourage homosexual marriages? No, that is contrary to God’s Word and the word of his Church. However, endorsing homosexuality is no different than endorsing fornication (as I see it, basically the same thing, as biblically God doesn’t see homosexual marriages as holy unions). To be a practicing christian and participating in pre martial or homosexual sex while knowing it is sinful is.. you guessed it! A sin. Off you go to confession.

[@christophersalinas2722]

@@markkuhnlein3081 If homophobia is a part of our faith we should leave our faith behind? That sounds ridiculous. “Darn it, God said no gay butt sex, and he said no touching my dong too, guess he’s not real..” see how dumb that sounds? We should follow the morals of God, God shouldn’t follow 21st century western morality, rather we follow Him. What would you consider homophobic? Berating people for being gay? That is deeply wrong and anyone who does so should be ashamed. If believing homosexuality is a sin (which.. it is.. according to our faith) is homophobic.. then too bad? I don’t know what you want us to say to that. Lol

[@jsmilers]

Volume. Didn't you listed to this before publishing it?

[@MrsJax-rc6jx]

I'm not sure what is happening on your end. I can hear it just fine. Maybe ask someone to help you? I hope you can get it fixed soon!❤

[@sharonfoster9725]

Such an important talk, too bad we couldn't hear it.

[@bryantweedy7163]

It's too bad it's so quiet. Even with ear buds, I can't continue.

[@flori467]

"The pro homosexual cause" doesn't exist because it's a scientific FACT that we exist and that being gay is a variation no different to having blue eyes or size 9 feet. It's a slightly pedantic point to make, but words have meaning and it's important to be clear so that a healthy conversation can be had.

[@jenniferrose1203]

I'm trying to watch this but the volume is REALLY low. :( Any suggestions on how to improve it? :(

[@arleneyamagata5542]

Jennifer HS headphones

[@georgeclooney2171]

Jennifer HS blue tooth

[@damonraj1714]

Really good external speakers

[@nenabunena]

using in-ear earphones has helped me

[@raulledesma1194]

Headphones will work fine

[@queerantine69]

What a nice man

[@thirdmaskstudio2511]

When did Jon Hamm become a priest!? ... but seriously, a wonderful talk. Talks like this are much needed at this time in history. Thank you gentlemen for setting the bar. God bless you all. Shalom.

[@DW-gf7nd]

Why are we talking about people and not offending people. What about God? Is He not offended when we misuse/abuse the bodies that He gave us as instruments to save our souls....but we use it to our damnation instead.

[@shnarklevonbarkle110]

The word "marry" comes from a Latin word which means "to impregnate", so the church has dropped the ball completely by parroting the tired old "marriage is between a man and a woman". If the church doesn't return to its roots and point out that what they are sanctioning is pregnancies, they're going to find themselves marrying gay couples, or being forced to go underground...again. The church has a responsibility to return to its teachings on contraception. Those who are too old to reproduce, aren't necessarily too old to reproduce. This is part of the Church's heritage; miracles happen, but they always happen within the natural order. They are never violations of the natural order. We can change laws to accommodate others, but we aren't likely to find nature changing her laws to allow men to be impregnated. The State has some serious explaining to do now that gay marriage is legal because the State has certain incentives and privileges granted to those who have married due to the resulting children. Given that this isn't a possibility with a gay couple, the State needs to either get rid of these incentives and privileges immediately, or grant them to single people as well. It's ironic that homosexuality and bestiality are mentioned in the same verse, and the military handbook that was recently lined out ended up lining out bestiality along with homosexuality. Bestiality is now acceptable behavior within the military now. I'm surprised that Fr. Mike brought up the fact that Leviticus 18 explicitly mentions the fact that the inhabitants of the Promised Land are being expelled because of these abominations. The reason being that these laws are only pertinent to those living in the Promised Land. They are only pertinent to God's holy people. They aren't relevant to those who aren't called to a life of holiness. These are explicitly part of the holiness code within the Mosaic law. The unpleasant ramification is that the Church isn't called to holiness. I lived in and around the immediate San Francisco bay area for over twenty years. I worked for homosexuals, and rented rooms to homosexuals and bisexuals. The torment I saw in these men's lives as well as the havoc and destruction that their lifestyle produced in their extended families, not to mention the destruction and misery within their own lives; was ghastly and tragic. I watched my employer and his partner wither away as the effects of their lifestyle slowly consumed them. One had AIDS, while the other developed a tumor in his brain which drove him completely insane. One of my tenants did enough damage to his sphincter to render himself incontinent. I didn't hate any of these people, but it's difficult not to be overwhelmed by a sense of incredulous confusion at how anyone in their right mind could do something like this to themselves.

[@littleone1656]

I don’t understand why you would say that the Church is not called to be Holy. The Church IS Holy.

[@shnarklevonbarkle110]

@@littleone1656 The Church is truly holy, but if one has attached themselves to a body that sins (sin is defined as transgressing the law), then it clearly isn't holy. The Mosaic law is God's standard of holiness, and things like sodomy, fornication, swine, etc. are all referred to as "abominations". They aren't just sin. They are detestable to God. Unless one is inclined to believe in a capricious deity, they cannot adhere to these arbitrary laws created out of whole cloth by charlatans. The slain lamb protects the church from death which then results in her liberation from sin, followed by an acute awareness of God's law. Under the Old Covenant, God requested that the church be brought before Him that he "may prove them". This isn't anything the flesh wants to go through so the Old Covenant's modus operandi relied upon sacrifices in lieu of Christ's sacrifice. It relied upon "will and effort" (Romans 9:16|). The Church or in the Greek "ekklesia" or "called out ones' are called from sin and death, not to a life of trying not to sin or die. That's the Old Covenant, not the New. As Paul points out, those who "walk after the flesh will not fulfill the lust of the flesh", and "only the doers of the law shall be justified". There is only one law. God is not a respecter of persons. A church that openly defies God's commandments cannot be holy. A church that profanes what God has sanctified, e.g. the Sabbath, marriage, the dietary laws, usury, etc. is not God's church, and cannot be holy. The Church looks nothing like the fallen world which has no interest in keeping any of God's laws.

[@shnarklevonbarkle110]

Correction: I should have typed: "walk after the SPIRIT will not fulfill the lust of the flesh"

[@littleone1656]

Shnarkle VonBarkle so you are not Catholic. That tells me everything I need to know. Peace be to you.

[@shnarklevonbarkle110]

@@littleone1656 The creed blatantly states "one holy and catholic...etc." The one and only universal church isn't part of any denomination. The one true church doesn't have any members who would ever engage in Ad Hominem attacks, therefore we can all safely assume you're not here to engage in any serious discussion. You're just here to troll. Try using some bait next time. Nuff said.

[@kitiowa]

I might have watched this if there were volume enough to hear.

[@Episcopalianacolyte]

Religious beliefs should be tolerated and should not be debated.

[@porterp]

'To hear what someone else believes and why...' So you can make sure that you elevate yourself as better than the the other person.

[@Matt_Dalton]

“Sodom and Gomorrah may have been simply a lack of hospitality. What do you think of that?” Fr. Mike: “…but what if it wasn’t like that?”

[@CatherineYarton]

AMEN.

[@Riverification]

Yes, Fr Mike, contemporary Catholic teaching is that 'marriage' is (i) unitive and procreative (the justification for this goes back to St Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) notion of 'natural law') and (ii) one of seven key sacraments of the Church (Council of Verona in 1184). What you don't like to hear, however, is that this view of 'marriage' is only one among many other views. We have anthology, zoology and history to teach us that marriage is not and never has been one identical thing from age to age. The question many non-Catholics ask is: Why should I discard my own views of marriage and sign up instead to those of the Church? The question many Catholics need to ask is: To what extent should I tolerate the views of non-Catholics in setting their own secular agendas?

[@ibachmike3]

limitattitude as a Catholic I need to always only except the Catholic view, period. That's my job, fight for truth and put an end to disorder.

[@splashpont]

You have rightly show the evolution of the Church's understanding of marriage throughout its history. The Spirit continues to make the Truth known to the Church (ongoing revelation), so the teaching may, in time, become more embracing of all romantic love.