Bathhouse VS Apps | Patrick Marano

Us gays have so many options when it comes to cruising. But, like Edwina Monsoon famously said in AbFab, "I don't want more options, I just want nicer things!"
I feel the same way! I don't need more options for cruising, I just want the ones that exist to be great! LOL
In this video, we compare and contrast the viability of cruising at bathhouses and cruising using the APPs. Which one is your best bet for hooking up? Find out!
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[@pitreichert]

Bath house. Some of them in my area are so nicely done, that even if there is no one, you still get a spa experience 😅

[@johniii8147]

The few times I’ve been it was much more about that. They have never really turned me on sexually

[@PatrickMarano]

Exactly

[@zalanahara270]

Where do you live. Looking for a new place to go😊

[@JimboPS]

totally agree that bathhouses > apps for success in that endeavor. So happy I live in a city which still has a few options in that department.

[@omarcortes5754]

That awkward moment when you find your "super straight" friend/boss from work at the bath house doing things he told you he would never do.

[@johniii8147]

A super straight one would never even talk about it. They wouldn’t even know what a bathhouse is

[@rixx46]

OR spot them on Grindr trolling for a fist

[@omarcortes5754]

@@rixx46 And monday morning both acting like nothing happened.

[@PatrickMarano]

Hahaha do tell

[@LevviTalk]

I love that possibility actually

[@victordepaul1061]

While I’ve had some success with the Sniffies app, a lot of guys get ticked off if you’re not available when they are whether it’s to meet in person or to live play on the app. They end up deleting the chat . In a bathhouse successs or rejection is more immediate since you’re already there together.so if I have to choose I guess I’m voting for the bathhouse😁

[@PatrickMarano]

They DO delete conversations a lot on Sniffies don’t they??

[@zalanahara270]

Its so great you did this video. I saw this exact topic on reddit where someone ask “why do we need bathhouses if we have apps”. I was a little surprised the question was even asked. I should link your video in that thread. Good job.

[@PatrickMarano]

Please do. thanks!

[@MikeTazz]

Awesome breakdown. For me, in an open relationship where we do not bring people home it's simple - bathhouses give people who cannot host a place to go or meet others who cannot host. It's not always a hunt that starts there, but when you meet someone there you know you will/may have other options.

[@allenn.1039]

I agree with how you voted on every one of the items, and for the same reason you stated! I vote bathhouse over apps…..100%!!! 👍🏻

[@IPutThisUsernameHere]

As you mentioned it depends on what your end goal is. Want sex? Bathhouse. Want friends? Apps. This has been my experience.

[@PatrickMarano]

Thanks for the perspective

[@uspswill]

I think the chase was just as fun as the catch!! Expecting and seeing the unknown was fun

[@gigfisher3379]

Yes I agree with bathhouse..because it's in a public place. Thsnks Patrick!! Great video again!😁👍

[@PatrickMarano]

Thanks for watching!

[@TheAncasterguy]

Love your videos.. very good info

[@dennisarcher6613]

Bathhouses are more spontaneous than apps. You can see exactly what you are getting, if you see something to chase after. A lot of times the person on an app doesn’t look anything like their pictures.

[@nicksmith6854]

Glad to see back on the channel with videos. I enjoy your content. Will you by chance be recording more podcasts for True Gay Crime?

[@PatrickMarano]

I would LOVE to but I just don’t have time right now

[@meshuga27]

I'm 31 yo and going in an hour first time to a bathhouse, with a guy met on the app. I guess both is a win win situation :D

[@PatrickMarano]

Amazing... let us know how it goes!

[@chrisbaier6252]

Too many flakes on apps, hard to arrange a time, also a time commitment with the back and forth (and then they don’t show up), also get people who show up looking 10 years older than they say they are and then their pic (old guys can be hot too!), and sometimes the ‘magic’ just isn’t there when they show up, and usually the hot guy hits you up while another guy is on his way over 😂. Bathhouses get you in a neutral space, you can relax, have more options (depends who’s there) and more than a few times I have been able to get with a guy who wouldn’t have given me a second look in the outside world.

[@PatrickMarano]

Great points

[@thekraemer1757]

Or its not even them.

[@mvineyard45]

I much prefer baths. A face-to-face meeting is much more personal.

[@DwainRichardson]

Bang on for safety. This is why I don’t condone the idea of meeting anyone at my place the first time around. I don’t go to anyone’s place, either. If nobody understands and accepts my decision, we simply won’t meet. You can’t be too careful these days. (-:

[@KevinFuller7]

Bathhouse people can't lie like they do on the apps. ;-)

[@johniii8147]

Snapchat is your friend

[@PatrickMarano]

Ohhh good point

[@alanzamora6504]

You are sooo right _ personal safety and healthy environment ( this ) is a plus especially for a bottom like me : thank you for your very wise council 💕

[@jaya.d-gauthier1644]

Both. Different experience entirely. Of course apps will win ultimately but it was a fun experience to try a bathhouse a few times.

[@jimmikin1382]

Great vid

[@laddy819]

As cute as Patrick is I'd never let him go. He can't leave!

[@jjaime331]

Never was my thing (bath houses)!! Actually I was a disaster hooking up in apps completely a mess It's a miracle that I found my some one special.

[@PatrickMarano]

Happy u did. But Apps and bathhouses r more for hooking up I think

[@chrisworldwideadventures8551]

New sub. Great entertaining channel. Thank you for the content.

[@PatrickMarano]

Thanks for subbing xo

[@davidridgway4705]

I do both. I have met guys on apps that want to meet in public place. So I meet at the tubs.

[@neilschipper3741]

Bath house please! I do enjoy a marvelous brunch you know!

[@richardstormjr.7564]

Good job I agree

[@johneonas6628]

I totally agree.

[@liner2]

Bathhouses are more fun, haha!

[@jaquaw]

Hey Patrick you forgot to mention the hassle of finding a parking space as most bath houses are in densely populated urban centers

[@collinpowell7902]

I agree 100% that bathhouses are safer than apps

[@Jayseman79]

I’m with both. The bathhouse in Perth Australia doesn’t have great parking so it’s better if I catch the nearby train. That’s if I can be bothered going back and forth. Great when I get there. With Grindr and Scruff I’ve had some great sexual experiences.

[@PatrickMarano]

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

[@daddyaf945]

Bath houses! I like groups too large to really invite over. And sometimes I have to pass if a guy looks too young at clubs, in apps etc. Doesn’t matter at the bath house. If he got past management I won’t think twice about it.

[@PatrickMarano]

Awesome

[@9brian9871]

On apps you also have the issue of someone posting a pic from that one time they looked incredible and haven’t updated since. One guy here in Dallas had the same pic for at least 4 years...and it wasn’t recent to begin with. At least at the baths, you see the other person in real time. And like one other mentioned earlier...I have always been told I looked better in person than my pics...just not comfortable when taking pics. You’ve seen models that in person are almost ugly...but the camera just loves them. The opposite can also be true.

[@PatrickMarano]

Totally... I'm better in person too, so I get it

[@andyroo9381]

I have a question. You were showing a cost chart for Steamworks. On the list was a room called an "xtreme room". I'm just curious what that room entails? Is it a bondage room? A hanging harness (I'm not sure if that is the proper term). That's all. Thanks.

[@PatrickMarano]

Hey Andy... extreme rooms have a sling I believe and are larger. Maybe a little locker also. It's meant to host small groups... oh there's also a barred door (like from a prison cell) you can close so ppl that walk by can look in but can't come in.

[@nxs3374]

Cute Dackel, Mini- Long Haired ! I prefer BATHHOUSE! Apps in beginning were good but now… eh !Bathhouse all the way!

[@bobthebikerny]

What I like about a bathhouse is the smorgasbord of men. If you don't see what you want just wait, men are like buses there's always another one coming in a few minutes.

[@trainships1795]

Bathhouses, Hands Down. Apps maybe free, but for hooking up and scoring Bathhouses Win. That has been and continues to be my experience. Also Bathhouses are a great place to go after the clubs, especially if you live like the next city down the Interstate to sober up and have fun doing so. The Flex in Cleveland is my place when partying and Akron Steam and Sauna in Akron. There is nothing in Dover,Ohio so you have to either go north on the weekend or head to Pittsburgh or Columbus. Either way the Bathhouses are the way to go.

[@PatrickMarano]

Glad you have a system all worked out

[@michaelgelunas1113]

I saw this title & had no idea what the actual topic was so I clicked it. I was certainly surprised. I'm straight but you fellas do have it made as dudes want what dudes want! I mean the idea of bathhouses would be great for the straights but I don't think women would get it or do it (lol)! Let's be honest the apps are probably fine for ladies as they just need to show up. Anywho I know I didn't catch anything from watching this but a chuckle as you've stated it doesn't work like that.

[@PatrickMarano]

Hey thanks for sharing! Actually there are swingers clubs where there are women... we have one in Toronto!

[@productionemployee8032]

Can you do a video (list) about what attracts a top to a bottom and vice versa? Thank you 🙏

[@PatrickMarano]

Good idea

[@Scar-jg4bn]

Bottoms almost always want a masculine dominant man, but tops vary in their tastes. I like guys from twinks to bears and all kinds in-between.

[@Bmore.BLIND-GUY]

I agree with you that a bath house would be safer per your statement by this assumes that everyone has access to a bath house

[@PatrickMarano]

True

[@brinthorne]

Bathhouses absolutely beat the stuffing out of any app. It's like trying to argue that a picture of a hamburger tastes better than an actual hamburger.

[@PatrickMarano]

Hahaha great analogy

[@nicholaslindsey7155]

Bathhouse of course!

[@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing]

i feel like affordability and convenience are only useful comparisons if we want the same thing form apps and tubs, which i at least dont. apps are time passing, occasionally gounds for dating, and useful for hook ups that can be planned into life so sex can be a passing feature of life. bathhouses are much more the shrine to xochipilli or dionysus - a plavce where we get to take sex as a mystic virtue in its own right. the difference is that between a monk and a church goer - grindr is church, whereas the bathhouses are a spiritual retreat and so just don't fulfil the same role in life, so need comparisons that pick up those incomesurables

[@imhoned4532]

Yesss OMGG so true !

[@PatrickMarano]

Thank u for ur perspective 😀

[@scorpionoir4952]

Apps are okay but I find that there are too many options for guys. A lot of guys just randomly hit up a bunch of different people in their area and hope to match with someone but the problem with that is too many options mean they are probably more likely to flake if they get messages from multiple people.

[@DwainRichardson]

Totally agree. Partly why I am seriously considering the idea of ditching my online profiles this year. Besides, most men aren’t interested in genuine conversation, making the online application experience all the more disappointing.

[@scorpionoir4952]

@@DwainRichardson Me and a friend were comparing our messages and we had some of the same messages by guys in our area. They literally copy and pasted a message and probably sent it to multiple guys and just waited to see who would reply. So now I assume that's what a lot of guys do. Don't put too much hope into linking with those guys on apps because they will prioritize the men they deem most attractive to them and will flake on the others.

[@PatrickMarano]

Yup

[@zalanahara270]

Wow, now that is interesting. It explains a lot.

[@howardkerr8174]

It's more difficult/almost impossible to exaggerate when you are in a bathhouse...what/who you see is pretty much what you get. As a now more senior gay man, it seems as tho the men at some baths are now past the age of...40? 50? 60? Whereas when I was in my 30s, I rarely saw guys over 40. Finally, while I have been lucky enough to have lived in several states where baths were reasonably close by, I have also lived in states where there weren't any baths in that time zone, they were so far away. So, if I have the choice...baths, and yet I have had reasonable success with apps, I just don't find as many "honest" men on apps.

[@PatrickMarano]

I agree with you, what you see it what you get at the baths, which I like. I wonder if we're seeing more older men at the baths now cuz we lost a whole generation before them... and now we get to age like everyone else

[@imhoned4532]

I prefer bathhouses because there’s no endless chatting and planning. It’s there and now !!!

[@PatrickMarano]

yes to that

[@aldolasc6186]

I go to bathhouses and cruising places cause in Grindr I never arrange any deal whatsoever and is frustrating.

[@PatrickMarano]

agreed

[@Teesbrough]

Agree all. Patrick, what are the ‘Xtreme Room’ and ‘Xtra Large’ rooms in your Toronto bathhouse please? Very unusual in UK to have a bathhouse with rooms you can pay extra for. May have applied to one in Berlin. You’ll have to do a grand European tour of them, including one in Antwerp with extensive garden, open pool and sun loungers.

[@PatrickMarano]

My plan is to tour the WORLD bathhouses lol. The bigger rooms at Steamworks are well… bigger. Lol. A couple have their own slings too

[@khalidhaniff2106]

I agree! Bathhouse is the 👌 best. Usually connect on the app then meet up at steamworks! It is the perfect combination. 🥰 Ah! Memories 👿

[@PatrickMarano]

Good idea. Use both

[@bcguy261846]

Bathhouse 100%

[@hardiebear3379]

Bathhouse

[@leifharmsen]

Bathhouses, deffinitely.

[@hereforit1202]

Both.

[@scottscarboro1973]

This Str8 guy once told me he thought you could get AIDS/HIV from sniffing poppers. I broke out in laughter. He was stone faced. He wasn’t joking. I tried to explain how that couldn’t happen, but IDK…

[@PatrickMarano]

We have to educate

[@Jusell]

My vote is for bathhouses 🔥😎🔥

[@rethablair6902]

I have had the BEST experience with apps

[@PatrickMarano]

We’re listening…

[@rethablair6902]

@@PatrickMarano 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣well u got to control the narrative never meet on their turf. I prefer a public place, Meijers parking lot has served me well😖😂

[@armandodesousa6375]

Taking it down the gullet is sometimes too complicated.

[@beaubritton4362]

This is easy, Bathhouses rule

[@mahmudabdulla2479]

Definitely bathhouse…. No fake profile, and almost everyone is there for the same thing

[@jerickosoria5084]

Omg I did not know you were the gay true crime host

[@PatrickMarano]

Oh ya! So u listen?

[@davidperry4013]

I don’t trust apps since I am worried about safety. So bath houses for me.

[@monsieurstrolland8555]

So many parameters on grinder and so many mean guys hide behind their screen as well, the Bathhouse is better!

[@PatrickMarano]

agreed

[@mbkmonarch05]

While I enjoyed hearing about your experience, I would've wanted to hear this opinion from someone who doesn't fit the common beauty standard. As a person of color who is overweight and often marginalized in the LGBT community, it would be more interesting to hear their perspective.

[@PatrickMarano]

Thank you for your comment

[@xaldinfash4203]

try losing some weight or hitting the gym. u can't expect to attract fir looking people when u don't fit that category either. People tend to attract what they are..

[@ghayath2011]

Apps are for flakes. Bathhouses for sure. 👍 very convenient.

[@Version9ex]

I am not finding your podcast.

[@PatrickMarano]

It's on KZbin... @queerlyuspodcast

[@alezand7151]

Doggo

[@jahmieksjourneys391]

Hey any good bathhouse’s in nyc?

[@PatrickMarano]

I'll have to go review them for you!

[@johngiltzow4764]

I prefer dark corners and alleys

[@daymon6868]

Whoever asked you that , they need to just stay on their aps and please do not take up space in the bathhouse

[@Jaytorres82729]

I’m turning 18 in 6 minutes.. I swear, I need help! 🤣

[@PatrickMarano]

We're here to help lol

[@simonf8902]

I’m cruising Patrick. That’s all.

[@PatrickMarano]

Hahaha ok

[@MonkeyWhoWouldBeKing]

the cuts to a mirror of the same footage are so disorienting XD whyyyyyy? lol

[@PatrickMarano]

Thank u for the feedback

[@davidseyes5367]

Free not free

[@PatrickMarano]

The APPs are free, but some folks don't have a place to go

[@oquefizhoje]

Bath house obviously. you can see a guy full naked and if you like it then you can have fun. There is no time to romance. Grindr requires a long time to matchmaker, chating and dating.

[@PatrickMarano]

Agreed

[@jeffreypeterson9280]

I miss rest areas a New York used to have a lot of bathhouses apps you do not know who you're talking to I found on Grindr did usually talking to a fat old man instead of the pictures that are shown grinder just a poor excuse that people just play games

[@PatrickMarano]

True. A lot of games.

[@johniii8147]

It’s largely a generational thing. People under 40 usually prefer apps

[@grodscores1]

hair 👍👍 u look 20years younger ....

[@PatrickMarano]

You think so? 20? LOL

[@randysmith7045]

i prefer to goto a bath hosue, being naked infront of other men,

[@PatrickMarano]

exhibitionist

[@randysmith7045]

@@PatrickMarano yes, not that i am much to look at now.

[@johngiltzow4764]

Sex clubs.

[@BaskingInObscurity]

I'm kinda shy, so bathhouses are a little intimidating; BUT, everybody available is in the house. It doesn't take hours to arrange a meeting only to get stood up. You get to see the person for real, no pics, which may be ancient or just don't look like the person. I'm not all that picky about appearances anyway, but I just hate what a lens does to distort some of us-totally depends on a guy's shape, especially the head. Super handsome people can be totally nonphotogenic. Photogenic people are not necessarily all that handsome in person. The shape of your face, the lighting, the focal length, and the lens diameter will determine how squished your 3D head will mash into a 2D image. I'm bitter, okay! All that said, apps are good for travelers because you don't have to discover how nice or disgusting a bathhouse is, if there even is one, and if you can find it. My experience is that the vast majority of America has no such potentially clean places, rather adult stores and wooded places and some parking areas are all there really is. Frankly I'd rather use an app that has a ratings or testimony feature and plan to meet at someone's home, perhaps getting a shower to boot. [I prefer to travel sleeping in my car, cuz most joints with beds are either overpriced or overskanky. Besides, I tend to drive 18-20 hours per day, not counting my stops to check out attractions along the way, so sometimes I only sleep for a few hours, drive a little more, siesta that peak heat, whatever. X-P I guess my preference varies by situation. Apps are good for wishful thinking any ol' time, though.

[@braxtonanderson3870]

Bathhouse

[@PatrickMarano]

Agreed

[@rodneyzeedyk8337]

Bathhouse