Penn 60 Long Beach Fishing reel rebuild Also applies to Penn 65, 285 and 85 reels

[@owjbehdobw4711]

Thanks for this. Picked up an almost brand new 85 Sea-boy off ebay and it came it today. Barely needed a cleaning apart from some dried grease. Gave it some new and it's ready to fish. I'll pair it up with a heavy 7 ft rod for some jetty, bridge, pier, and boat fishing.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Sounds like a good deal and a good time to go fishing!

[@danielhuckabee6553]

Dennis you have saved me a lot of heartache watching these videos thank you

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to help and to hear that are helpful. Best wishes - Dennis

[@bobp4036]

Got my dad’s Long Beach 65 and decided to bring it back to life. Appreciate the detail in these videos to help that along. It was missing the spring for the anti-reverse, and I had a laugh picturing dad cursing that lost spring last time he had it open. Ordered the spring, new posts, and some new drag washers and it’s ready to fish again. Once I get a rod and some line on it, going to use it inshore bridge fishing and from some of the piers here in South Florida.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I can imagine. I am sure he was not the only one to "misplace" it

[@DavidRice111]

Excellent vid~ I just bought a 60 off Ebay for $30 and while it's very clean, I have watched this 3 times now & took notes so I can clean inside and replace the drag discs with HT-100s. Hope to put it on a rod worthy of it which will be a TWC Extender. Thanks Dennis!

[@Inokea]

Thanks for this. Picked up a Long Beach 60 and Jigmaster for free! Will give them both a full service. Thanks again!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to help! Nice to heart that they will have a 2nd Chance! - Dennis

[@bobworthier7999]

All of your videos have been a major help to me. I thought I had broken my Penn 60 longbeach when I was taking it apart to check out the insides (it was my first time having the reel) and I had dislodged the spring that keeps the handle from reeling the opposite direction. I was able to follow through this video and refit the spring so it works again.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to hear that it helped! That's why I am doing these. Thanks for letting me know - Dennis

[@sgtcervantez]

Thanks for all your videos! I have know gone through 6 of my penn reels that I am sure have never been maintained! They work beautifully now!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to hear that they are helpful. Please stay tuned for more - Dennis

[@Backlashed]

Just cleaned and rebuilt a 285 from CraigsList with an online diagram and this video for reference, thanks!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome. Glad it help. Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@mrd745]

Thank you for the video! Had my Penn 85 clean and working on the first try. Couldn’t have done it without your video.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you for the kind words. That is why I am doing it, so that others can learn before I can't do it any longer - Dennis

[@grouchooscar1]

Thanks a lot Dennis. I live near the Ocean in San Diego Ca. & Im a bit ashamed to admit I haven't gone fishing in years. Kind of expensive for me. I bought & cleaned up a used sea worthy rod today. Just looking online for a used reel or two to fix up. Thanks for the know how video. -Oscar

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You can find a good new or used saltwater reel for $20-30. Don't get caught up in the # of ball bearings or manufacturer name. Your reel should have a minimum of 3 ball bearings and be a 50 size or larger. When shopping on Ebay, don't rush to purchase. If an item comes up in your search. Take the brand name and model number and insert that into the EBAY search box to see what the other vendors are selling the item for. Also do an online search. You can usually find more info on the reel and see what the retailers and speciality stores are selling it for and then make an informed decision. I have enjoyed fishing for a long time. I'm sure you will too once you get the line back in the water. Good luck - Dennis

[@zeronaught7932]

Awesome video. Thank you very much. Currently pulling apart a 65 Long Beach that was obviously abused. The inside of the reel was full of rubber bits. When I pulled the drag stacks it had rubber drag washers. This vid is def gonna help remind me while I'm waiting for washers to come in!

[@chronicrock1530]

Thanks for making this video and making it easy to understand step by step. Found two reels that were in very bad conditions, I managed to save them and bring them back to life. Gracias Amigo.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome. Thanks for viewing - Stay tuned for more - Dennis

[@bluejay47471]

If you lose the dog spring, you can use a spring from a cigarette lighter, those throw away ones.. Just cut it to the correct length. I lost one, just opened a responsible light and use the the flint spring.

[@ДмитрийКузьменко-э9н]

I used a spring from a pen

[@leemurphy3960]

I found that out along time ago. My grandson lost one. We used it from under the flint on a Bic lighter. Hope your comment helps others.

[@josegallegos9858]

Very detailed. Thank you. I was gifted a Penn 65 and decided to take apart to clean but couldn't figure out where the dog piece went. Luckily I didn't lose the spring.

[@ramonbobea48]

awesome vid I was panicking at the thought of taking this pen 65 reel apart thanks

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome - Best wishes and thanks for viewing - Dennis

[@adammorley615]

Thank you so much for making this video

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are so welcome! Thanks for the note and for watching

[@thomasbadon6940]

Hey Dennis, I was given my grandfather's Penn 65 a few years back and yesterday landed a 47" red drum. The drag maxed down didn't pull any line, just towed the boat. But late in the fight it got to the point where if there was any tension on the line, the handle would crank but the spool wouldn't turn. I had to start pulling the line to get slack for the spool. What adjustment needs to be made to correct this? It felt like the gears wouldn't engage with resistance?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You can check the drag washers and probably need to replace or upgrade them to the newer ones. I would bet you have the older leather ones and they will lose grip and cause the condition you are describing - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@KUChNAYASEKHO]

My friend you share a great video I like your video and comments your video keep it up.

[@peteranddorothybowles5428]

wasn't there a sea mate was that the 78 before the sea boy My second reel Great memories Thanks for these films

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yes - there is a Sea Hawk Model 77, Sea Scamp (78) and Sea Mate (79) in addition to the Sea Boy. Thanks for asking and for sharing - Dennis

[@peteranddorothybowles5428]

@@2ndChanceTackle thanks so much for info and you stay healthy mate Im going to put the 78 on a top Daiwa rod next wk and give the old girl a run out Thanks

[@DizzyMiggy]

Just found one of these today $10 at a flea market I will be watching this a few times to ensure proper restoration thank you 2nd chance What is the line capacity on this reel? And can I use braid line?

[@denniskuntz1368]

The 66 is similar to the black sided penn senator 4/0 reels. The gears are identical. The major difference is the metal trim rings and extra cross post carbonic drag upgrades are good and drpendsblr.

[@falgianibrandon]

Hi I just bought one of these and was wondering what type of rod would be right for this type of reel.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

This is considered a "boat" reel. A medium action 6-7 foot conventional rod works best with this one. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@geoffanasar]

Great video. Very helpful. Followed it step by step but the spool on my reel wont turn. It locks up. Any idea what happened?

[@geoffanasar]

Dennis Kuntz it was the spool gear! Great help. Thank you dennis! Have a good one!

[@Lasurge1982]

Getting some mixed responses from different people. Would you recommend a 3in1 oil for reel bearing lubrication? People say that it gums up when it comes in contact with dirt and dust ultimately seizing everything.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I generally use a fishing reel grease on the internal Penn bearings. Oils work good - I prefer fishing reel oils to generic household ones like 3 and 1. Oils do evaporate faster than grease so there is some merit to the gums up argument. I recommend annual service on your fishing reel and if you do that, you should not have a problem with either approach - Dennis

[@alfredofausto7500]

Nice video I have a cuestion do u know we're can I find parts for this reel

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yes - you can get parts from Mysticparts.com Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@andressilva9935]

Great Video, i just worked on PENN 47 Reel.....

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Hmmm. 49?? Thank you for watching. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis

[@tradesf7447]

My handle nut is on there very tight. Any tips on removing a stubborn handle nut? (I’m using the Penn 60 wrench)

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Legerage. Get a bigger wrench or put a pipe on the end of the wrench you have to extend the handle or use a long pliers. You will not break anything that is not already broken. If you do break a screw inside the gear sleeve, the parts are available and inexpensive. Dennis

[@andrelapar]

GREAT video! Easy to follow and very detailed. Just finished my Long Beach 60 which had almost no corrosion, only gummed up old grease which I cleaned out. After rebuild it still doesn't spin as freely as the one in the video. Seemed like it was too tight so I loosened all out plate screws by 1/10-1/8 of a turn. That helped a bit, but still not spinning the way it should. Any idea?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Have you tried loosing the spool adjuster bearing on the non gear side? There should be play in the spool when you move it left and right. This usually gets tighter when you add grease to the bearing and it needs to be reset. Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5SZfJpslpd2a80 to see the proper setting and let me know how it goes. do not leave the side plate screws loose. It will only cause additional problems - thanks for viewing - Dennis

[@andrelapar]

@@2ndChanceTackle your timely reply was spot-on! The Reel spins smoothly quickly and quietly now! I am planning to just spool it with 20 lb mono for dropping baited rigs near the jetties or over structure a bit farther out. Mainly as an additional Rod when we take friends on the boat. I'll be watching your other video and working on a Penn senator 4/0 tonight. Both are reels we fished as kids growing up on Long Island in the late 80s and early 90s. Thanks so much

[@2ndChanceTackle]

you are welcome - best wishes for great fishing

[@franciscopeixoto6609]

Great info Dennis ,salut from France.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for watching. I treasure my worldwide friends. Please stay tuned for more - Dennis

[@abelrojas1565]

Great video! How can I tell if the drag needs to be greased?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Abel - if you are asking about the Long Beach reel, you can grease those drag washers. Generally, the fabric or leather washers, like those in the Long Beach reels can and should be greased. If the washers are felt washers, they should be oiled. If they are hard washers, like teflon/plastic washers, they do not get anything and finally if they are Carbontex then you have the option of light grease or leaving them dry. Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@abelrojas1565]

@@2ndChanceTackle thanks bub, I appreciate the feed back now I can check them out.

[@CoroaEntertainment]

The noise from the camera's auto focus motor was kinda annoying after a bit. Also, at times the video was not as sharp/clear as it should have been (focus constantly readjusting). A suggestion (if someone hasn't already mentioned it)? Set the auto focus to manual, adjust the focus to a reel in the center of your table/bench, then hit record. Other than that, thanks for the clean up video. It helped.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for the tips. I need to get a new camera.....when I get time to research and shop - Dennis

[@pauljohnston5652]

Great video! Just found one of these old reels.

[@grflorida8975]

I recently aquired a few penn reels from an old timer who i was told was once pretty well known for striper fishing up north. Most of the reels were kept in great condition and look/work perfect. A few of the smaller reels have a spring or something on the free-spool lever that keeps it from engaging the free spool. To cast i habe to use both hands to hold back the lever. My guess is that the smaller reels were probably modded for casting jigs or plugs from a pier when you have to cast in queue with other fishermen. Idk. Have you ever seen or heard of someone modding a reel to work like this? Thanks

[@2ndChanceTackle]

There is an internal eccentric spring that enables the reel to go into free spool. It may be broken and that could be the reason why you are having the trouble you are. Get the reel schematic and take the side plate off. You should eb able to see if the spring is broken or missing once the plate is off. If it is, you will need to replace it in order to get the reel to work correctly - Dennis

[@carlmeibergen8149]

Hi - thank you for these videos - I'm reconditioning two old reels - one is the Penn, Model 85. When I opened it - the dog spring was missing - however it looks like it took some kind of flat spring - there is a small post adjacent to the hole where the dog sits on the threaded post. Do you know where I could get that part - or some kind of work-around for replacing it? I appreciate your willingness to share your expertise and experience.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Carl - you can order the part at Mysticparts.com, which is the old Pennparts.com site. The parts will be about a dollar and the shipping will be about $6. If you have the reel apart, I suggest you order the drag washers as well. They are about $1 each and will help moderate the shipping expense. I have posted a video on how to set the flat spring on the anti reverse. You are correct, the flat spring sits on top of the dog, wraps under the post and makes a 90 degree up turn to set on the lip of the side plate. If you need the view, I will follow this response with the link to my KZbin video - Dennis

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Here is the link on how to set the flat spring kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4XFYWegnq2GZtE

[@carlmeibergen8149]

Thank you! I appreciate your help.

[@jeffsmith825]

Hey Dennis, bought a Long Beach 60 to rebuild. Put new drags in it and it spins beautifully now after quite a bit of work. I normally don't care about the aesthetics but this one has cross posts that have pretty much no chrome left, down to what looks like brass. Cant seem to find many for sale and they're like $25 which seems a bit crazy. Any ideas? Do they match up with other reels?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

That's a tough one. These are old reels and chrome loss is normal. You can either find a donor reel that has better chrome or maybe take the parts to a motorcycle shop to gt the originals rechromed. The Long Beach 60 shares the posts with the DelMar 285. Every now and then you can get a deal on the posts on EBAY from someone who is parting out the reel - Dennis

[@jeffsmith825]

@@2ndChanceTackle thanks as always. I was actually contemplating trying to chrome them myself since I've got nothing better to do during this time. Can't make them any worse than they are. I've got a Long Beach 65 and a Senator 1/0 that need to be broken down, seriously cleaned and rebuilt also so I've got multiple things going on. The Senator 1/0 is an interesting little reel. Not sure why they'd make a Senator so small with such small gearing and drags. Not much of a casting reel either. Just doesn't seem to make much sense that reel.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yeah. The 1/0 is basically the Penn 60 with an extra chrome ring on the outside. Not sure why they did that either. They are relatively rare because a lot of folks didn't want to pay the extra money for the same reel

[@j.angelmoreno9784]

can I turn my Penn 60 into a right hand crank instead of left hand crank..? can I just switch the handle.?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Angel Moreno this cannot be done. You can get a left hand JigMaster and or the multiple parts to make the conversion

[@dadto8sofar]

Thanks for the videos. I have used them to restore a few penn reels that I have picked up at flea markets. Very helpful. Questions: Is the 66 longbeach similar to this model? I just picked one up. Also, what do you think about using carbontex drags? Thanks again.

[@thiagorodrigues-fb1jq]

Parabéns Dennis!!!! Ótimo vídeo!

[@griddlingrandpa7601]

Love the videos! Can't wait to clean my Penn 60. Can you do a Wards Hawthorne 60-6528 level wind trolling reel?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I don't have that one, but I believe it is an Ocean City reel made for Wards and that the 922 is nearly identical. You can watch this video to see how the service s done. Thanks for asking. Here is the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIfQeYSEd9uGjLc Dennis

[@griddlingrandpa7601]

@@2ndChanceTackle would parts be compatible, need a level wind and a couple of screws?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I can't say for certain, but my guess is that they would share internal parts and many screws. I don't have any of those parts. You may be able to find a donor reel on Ebay or at the local flea markets - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@griddlingrandpa7601]

Thanks for sharing!

[@falgianibrandon]

I was working on my 60 longbeach and i noticed that the grease fitting on the right side plate was pushed in is there a way to push it back out so that its flush. Thanks.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You can try a little WD40 and. pin. It may not loosen it. That is a convenience fitting. If it doesn't work, you can always foo the lube by removing the side plate - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@falgianibrandon]

@@2ndChanceTackle the ball isnt stuck the whole fitting got pushed down.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

OK - the fitting is pressed into the case. You may be able to remove the side plate and tap the fitting outward. If that does not work, you may need to replace the side plate in order to correct the issue. Again, doing nothing is an option, you would just need to remove the side plate to do the lubrication - Dennis

[@cristiancespedes8164]

Hi dennis, penn 285 is similar to penn 500 jigmaster?? Or which reel is similar to make a 501 jigmaster ??

[@2ndChanceTackle]

The 501 Jigmaster is a narrow spool version of the popular 500. IT was a hybrid using a lot of different parts. If you don't have the spool, which is no longer available, then you can't make the conversion. If you have the spool. the most of the other frame parts - reel stand and crossbars come from the Mariner 49 reel. You can reuse the side plates, other frame parts and the gears from the Jigmaster to complete the conversion.- Dennis

[@cristiancespedes8164]

@@2ndChanceTackle and using the spool and others parts from a penn 285??

[@DavidRice111]

I looked at Carbontex drag washers and they have 3 + 1 smaller disc while the HT-100s only have the three discs. If I go with Carbontex, where does that smaller disc fit?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Is the smaller one the one that matches up with the washer under the main gear? If not, I believe that it would be the last washer on, closest to the handle. Personally, I would go with the HT100 washers and would also replace the washer under the main gear. - Dennis

[@DavidRice111]

Will do- thanks

[@moises8354]

Hello, Ive been seeing your videos and they are Great. Just had one question for you. I have an Ocean City, St Lucie Patented reel with a Sears brand fishing pole. I think they are pretty old cause i cant find any info on them online and was wondering if you could help me out if you know anything on them. Thank you

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Here is the best site I have found for the Ocean City reels www.orcaonline.org/ocean-city-reel-photos/. Hopefully this helps - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@Awsometurtle20]

I have a 60 Long Beach and I need a fiber washer where can I find one I’m having trouble finding one

[@2ndChanceTackle]

They are available through Mysticparts.com. If you are going to replace it, you may as well get 3 new ones. Here is the link www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/6-60.aspx Dennis

[@Awsometurtle20]

@@2ndChanceTackle thank you so much

[@ramirojuarez7379]

Hey Dennis I have a questions what if the antireverse dog is different? And instead of the little coil spring there's a thin piece of copper, how would you put that back together? Thank you!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Hi Ramiro - yes - Penn used a flat spring on early models and then a coil spring was used later. What my KZbin video kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4XFYWegnq2GZtE to see how to fix with the flat spring - Dennis K.

[@ramirojuarez7379]

2nd Chance Tackle thank you so much have a good day

[@ramirojuarez7379]

2nd Chance Tackle thank you so much have a good day

[@kevintaxera2743]

I just picked up two of these today and am going to fix them up this weekend. If I run into any issues can I message you? I just started getting into restoring vintage reels. Also I just found your channel, it’s very informative. Thanks for the videos

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Sure thing. I will be happy to help. Just be careful when you remover the bridge from the gear side plate. Cup your hand behind it as you push out the assembly. You will not want to lose the anti-reverse spring! - Dennis

[@zhr4121]

What line rate of pounds rod would you put to this reel?? Sorry but sometimes confusing that spec..

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I would use a medium weight rod and 15-20 pound line. It is capable of handling 30-40 pound line on medium-heavy rods. It all depends on what type of fishing you are doing - Thanks for asking - Dennis

[@zhr4121]

@@2ndChanceTackle 15-20 rod line weight??? This is the spec the rod brings written on near spec of power and action?? Or you talking about line??

[@2ndChanceTackle]

The rod would be a medium rod. The line on the reel would be 15-20 pounds of monofilament. - Dennis

[@peterrobertson234]

i have an old penn 85 multiplyer,and dont see in the centre theres no line guide to put line through like other reels

[@2ndChanceTackle]

The Penn 85 is not a level wind reel. It shares features with the DelMar - 285, Long Beach 60 and Senator 2/0. These were not designed as a reel wind reel, so you will not find the line guide, worm and pawl assembly on this reel. You would need to find the Penn 209 to match this reel with the level wind features - Thank you - Dennis

[@CliffWilson-z2z]

Thanks!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

THANK YOU for your support! Best wishes - Dennis

[@tradesf7447]

Recently got my great grandfather’s Penn 60. I’m afraid to try and service it in fear that I’ll damage it.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Reel repair isn't for everyone. If you are interested in having me service the reel, please send a note to my email - [e-mail] and I will provide you with the information on how to get the reel serviced. - Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@metalink137]

how similar is the 66?

[@geradebowden3293]

Is lithium grease ok?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I don't recommend anything but fishing reel grease, like Penn precision reel grease and others. They are available on Amazon or EBAY and other retailers online for about $5. Don't go trying to use other stuff. It just isn't worth it. In a pinch, use 3 in 1 oil to get your through a short term thing, but not for annual serving - Dennis

[@zhr4121]

What is the max drag in this reel??

[@2ndChanceTackle]

It is in the 8-10 pound range for max drag

[@zhr4121]

@@2ndChanceTackle oooooohhhh thanks i thout it was more powerfull

[@zhr4121]

@@2ndChanceTackle so its just for small fish thougt it was for big fish cause they gave me one annd i was wondering what capacity line should i wind or what type if mono or braided one

[@2ndChanceTackle]

These reels can handle bigger fish and take 300 yards of 20# monofilament line. The Max drag is an indication of holding power, but not of the size fish you can land. This is an everyday saltwater reel - Dennis

[@zhr4121]

@@2ndChanceTackle i tested drag set the star tight and i put 17 pounds and it hang maybe frag is like 20 pounds correct me if im wrong...

[@tsmligma2548]

What is it worth

[@barbaragraham3984]

I can't find the dog spring!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

AAAAGGGGG! I suspect that it shot out. That is why I normally cup my hand over the gear assembly when I remover the bridge screws. If you can't find the spring on your bench or floor, you can get the replacement part at Pennparts.com. Sorry to hear of the snag. I am glad you are trying to service the reel. They last forever if properly maintained.

[@barbaragraham3984]

Well, I called the sportfishing landing I used to work for, and they found exactly one spring for this reel! Now it pretty much purrs. Opened up a Pflueger Ohio, it has the flat spring and it didn't come off because somebody (not me) put about an ounce of grease in there at one time. So, it wasn't it very bad shape, except cosmetically. I've quit for the day, but I have to address the crank and star drag which aren't working post-assembly. Your Second Chance Tackle videos are an invaluable resource for those of us too cheap to buy new reels. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you. I may have an Ohio. If I do, I will drop a video on the rebuild. I like to think we are repairing, reusing and recycling the reels, hence 2nd chance tackle. That's not cheap at all. Dennis

[@barbaragraham3984]

I must admit to a bit of snobbery when I go fishing and everyone has bright new reels but me. Mine work, that's what matters!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

My old Daiwa 7000 drags in more fish than most folks using a Van Staal. The fish don't seem to notice which reel they are attached to and I don't worry if the reel hits the deck or goes overboard!. Just saying!. Thanks for the thought. Dennis

[@dicast4431]

Video not working

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Hmm - I just tried it and it works. Maybe you have a server issue??

[@dicast4431]

@@2ndChanceTackle I thought too but switched to wifi dsl and still only loads to a certain point and and then stops. I've tried multiple devices and accounts with no success.

[@dicast4431]

It lets me watch the first 10 seconds only then acts like its loading on data and wifi. No worries though. I just wondered if anyone else was having an issue. I watched it before and great video but wanted to rewatch it.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

@@dicast4431 Hmmm. May be time for me to do another one on the Long Beach line. Not sure of the problem, but a reload and update won't take much - Thanks for noticing - Dennis

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I just did another. Hopefully this will play for you - Dennis. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXfVeaiKjNJ7j7s

[@jeffreybabino1411]

Hi Dennis how are you this reel is very good I have the 65 long beach love it can you please contact me in the reel thanks for your time and help 🐟

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Will do