Pennsylvania Steam Tier List

[@GMan9029]

EDIT: So apparently the 5484 at the end is photoshoped, it doesn't actually have a 4 axle trailing truck IRL. I didn't realize that until someone pointed it out lmao, sorry for the mistake. HURR DURR PIGTAIL MOTHERF*CKERS!!1! -Former Conrail dispatcher from upstate New York Btw go play the Antonblast demo, it's really good and the music is peak. store.steampowered.com/app/1887400/ANTONBLAST/ Again, massive thanks to Empire State Rails and Pensyfan19, check them out if you haven't already!

[@blehtbh]

Reading and CNJ when-

[@Voucher765]

​@@blehtbh B&O has entered the chat

[@Random_Train_Idiot_Dude]

DL&W?

[@Voucher765]

@@Random_Train_Idiot_Dude That too

[@Random_Train_Idiot_Dude]

*Lehigh Valley, Erie and L&NE Joined*

[@alistixx]

i love how he's not a selfless up and coming youtuber like how most are now, he's just making videos on what he likes, trains

[@Pensyfan19]

All K4 variants covered. I'm happy now. Incredibly well made video once again! The editing here is superb as well with the transitions, and I'm glad to see that Empire State Rails, a fellow Long Islander like myself, helped make the case for placing the G5s up towards the top. I feel those engines aren't discussed by Pennsy enthusiasts when compared to LIRR fans. Thanks for explaining some stats about some of the Pennsy's famous and lesser known engines.

[@adempllana8834]

Pensyfan19 I think g-man is right Prr 1188 Prr 5038 Prr 5399 Prr 3847 Prr 5484 are kind of Ugly👎 and also Prr 1188 skyline caseing looks like the southern pacific 4-8-2 mountains

[@GMan9029]

Good, now don’t break into my house again. Jokes aside glad you liked it man! Thanks again for hopping on! If I ever do an LIRR tier list I’ll be sure to ask you to come along!

[@pennsylvaniarailroad1223]

@@adempllana8834 the only thing is pennsy had ONE 4-8-4 mountain and i have info to prove it, it was so rare no pics of it are known but all the info and docs are there to prove it existed. it was called the R2 which I've affectingly nicked named it r2d2 but it had (66,000 ibf) of tractive effort.

[@huttongilgeours4997]

@@GMan9029definitely should do a LIRR LIST CUZ THE OLDEST CHARTER STILL EXISTS IN THE US

[@mikestudioz216]

@@pennsylvaniarailroad1223where’s the proof?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

PRR > NYC. K4 my beloved! Thank you for putting them in S Tier! Also thank you for not mentioning the farse of the buried J1. Didn't know some L1s got sold to L&NE & ATSF, that was news for me Also how the hell did you swap out the whistles for the payware T1 on Trainz unless it was a custom audio?

[@GMan9029]

Big man in the house, glad you liked it! Yeah I really hate that J1 myth, there ain't shit underneath Enola yard lol. As for the new T1 whistle; I took what whistle I wanted, cloned it, changed the kuid to the payware whistle (the number at the end needs to be higher than the default one), saved it (but didn't submit edits), and then imported the new whistle via content folder. That's also how I changed the engine sounds and Espec.

[@Voucher765]

My favorite Pennsylvania steamer now is 4483, I wish she can be brought back into service and even run in New Jersey

[@ThunderClawShocktrix]

yes the PRR isn't as good as the NYC, it's better PRR>B&O>NYC

[@Voucher765]

@@ThunderClawShocktrix Yup especially the fact the NYC flunked in saving any steam especially the Hudsons, They get the F tier in historical preservation

[@ratulmondal2832]

@@ThunderClawShocktrix MILW>PRR

[@chesapeakedproductions3009]

A Centralist talking about the Pennsy? What blasphemy is this?! (For legal reasons this is a joke...)

[@SomeCallMeTim47]

It's just a heretic speaking about the chosen ;) lmao

[@criszbaviation]

Rodney is not happy with this statement.

[@centeroftheearthmining4095]

😂 Right!!! Closet Pennsy lover

[@TheHoveHeretic]

Good Grief .... like unto a UK gricer with Swindonitis going head to head with a Southern Railway fan. For every Leader, there's a Kruger.

[@ChaosRanchGaming]

that was rather entertaining to watch, i have a new found appreciation for Pennsylvania steam engines, much thanks!

[@Shortline819]

I've always loved the J1s. Always found it funny that the PRR went with a C&O design over a design from their de facto subsidiary, the N&W. Texas types are just always great in general IMO. Pennsy articulates always had soft spot too, as weird as they are... Also Ruben Wells not mentioned RIP.

[@GMan9029]

Cope

[@Shortline819]

@@GMan9029 Nah

[@Train_Tok_Man]

Was it possibly due to the fact the Class A was using anthracite coal instead of bituminous coal is what dampened performance?

[@dustin_4501]

I don't care about the S2 Turbine... Look out History In The Dark will knock on that door soon...

[@asteroidrules]

Glad to see a fellow I1 enjoyer. Also it's interesting that some parts of the K4 made it into the L1, a similar thing happened across the pond with the Gresley P1 and P2 class Mikados being based on his A series Pacifics, which were themselves inspired by the K4.

[@cjstrader8171]

I like the M class of Mountain's on the Pennsy, but I feel like if they were given 80 inch drivers and with a 300 pound pressure, they would've unlocked their full potential as dual purpose locomotives.

[@thesunsetcollection]

The unofficial sequel. Agreed, the NYC is infinitely better than the PRR. Can’t wait for this watch! I do work with PRR steam IRL, so it should be interesting how you place the engine I work on.

[@GMan9029]

Alright calm down buddy the NYC is not the end all be all lol, both can exist in harmony.

[@thesunsetcollection]

@@GMan9029 I know, I know lmao. I’m also happy that the engine I work with is on the higher end on the list.

[@pennsy6755]

Mean hell, while I may be a PRR man till the day I die, I love the Central. Mohawks and all. Can’t beat the P&LE chaos and a Lionel scale Hudson repro from ‘90 I own

[@IgnoredAdviceProductions]

@@pennsy6755I’m a pensy guy but i adore the Niagaras

[@kevinpeters6709]

@@GMan9029no. That’s how you get a penn central… eww

[@Mr.Pannier-l8o]

fun fact: Sir Nigel Grizzlie that worked for LNER and GER Got inspired by the E class to make the GER Atlantic and even tried to make an experimental one with three wheels caused the firebox to be too small

[@doubleutubefan5]

My great grandfather worked for 10 years from the 1920's through the mid 30's at the Enola, PA steam shops specializing on K4 Pacifics. My aunt has a photo of the shop employees in a "roster" shot with K4's and a bunch of old rolling stock with RR names I have never heard of

[@mikestudioz216]

28:07 A poor man’s Hudson

[@HardyTheStormChasinFurry]

I absolutely love the m1/m1b 4-8-2s they are my favorite pennsy locomotives ever

[@BlueCometDude]

That Duplex (19:39) looks like one of those missile carriers you'd see in North Korean military parades, the boiler especially looks like a ballistic missile

[@Voucher765]

My Uncle remembers the H10s in service on the LIRR in the mid 1950s at the end of steam of that railroad

[@LongIslandRailfanner]

I love the G5s ten wheelers as they were the stars of Long Island Railroad which is my home railroad as were Just as common as the DM/DE30AC are today. Love the G5s and i can't wait for 35 to return

[@TheRealLocoBrutha]

As much as I love the S1, I think B Tier is a realistic spot for it. However, the Q2 definitely deserves S Tier! It sucks that it wasn’t able to operate at its finest.

[@train7163]

NYC fans unable to handle the fact that more than 4 pennsy steam engines got saved (PRR won)

[@LamhirhAbriel]

I mean, I'm a Pennsy guy, but the NYC has more than 4 (I assume by 4, you meant the 2 Mohawks, 999, and 6721).The Pennsy still wins the argument, though, since if we include those that ended up on other roads (looking at you, Frisco 4018 and--I shit you not--1630), subsidiaries and predecessors, there around 22 total to the NYC's ~14. For reference, in addition to my assumed 4: ATSF 2522 (nee-NYC 2976 class G-6k, to KCM&O #66 in 1927, to ATSF 2522 in 1928), on display in Fairview, OK. ex-NYC 5780 class G-43a, permanently stranded in the woods near Chamberlain Lake, Maine. NYC 6894 class B-10w (nee-Michigan Central 8794) on the Whitewater Valley RR in Connersville, IN. That's not including 5 from subsidiary roads that were never numbered into the NYC roster, one of which is the OTHER engine stuck in the Maine Woods (ex-IHB 15).

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

...why are you all treating this like a dick measuring contest? You know how cringe this is making you guys look. All of you railfans give casual enjoyers a bad look!

[@Railroaders_For_Life]

PRR will always be my favorite American railroad, my favorite American Locomotive being the K4 class, but this video is making me think of more Locomotives to like

[@certifiedcitydestroyer]

the PRR knew what they were doing with the I class...

[@GMan9029]

Could’ve distributed the weight a lot better, but otherwise a very capable locomotive imo. Honestly I’m shocked they didn’t go with the N class over the I’s

[@danius_huganius]

@@GMan9029 he probably meant the tit-appearance of the tanks it's a discord joke i think

[@tacticalcalebgaming7264]

S1 for me is S tier because it is One of the kind

[@Flightman87]

As a fan of the Lehigh and New England, I can say the L-1 mikes are good in the L&NE scheme which the L-1 was.classed as G-1 on the L&NE which was also the only steamer of the L&NE that had trailing wheels.

[@Ilikesteamtrains]

The PRR N2 is simply resting in the uncanny valley.

[@willy_b_coyote]

Should have made a Meme Tier for the S1.

[@amtrakproductions-mx9ib]

Will you do an Atlantic coast line railroad tier list? I live along a former Atlantic coast line branch line in eure, NC Which was abandoned in 1979

[@Dee_fy]

There is a theory that there is a j class berried in the ground near horseshoe curve

[@GMan9029]

Yeah and it’s the dumbest thing ever, no J1 is buried underneath Enola yard.

[@GoofyVirginian630]

As interesting as the theory is, it’s false. There is no way that a group of people dig a hole THAT big, somehow get the J1 into that hole, cover the whole thing and keep their mouths shut about it? I doubt a J1 can be buried even without its tender.

[@Icy6C]

I1 is the best for sure

[@TrajectoryT]

Seeing disc drivers on a K4 almost made me physically violent

[@landonbussieres1125]

Really loving these tier lists. Would it be possible to do a Canadian National or a Canadian Pacific tier list at some point? Cause they had some pretty unique engines which most dont know about.

[@GMan9029]

I doubt it, tbh I really don't care about the canadian roads.

[@landonbussieres1125]

@GMan9029 No worries.

[@Legomastr365]

G5S IN S TIER LETS GOOOOOO

[@rail-ryder7135]

I do not like the whistle at 10:22.

[@RockyisjustRocky]

My favorite railroad you can’t stop me :)

[@GMan9029]

I love both NYC and PRR pretty much the same, the only reason NYC is my favorite is because home road.

[@RockyisjustRocky]

@@GMan9029 Same but the only reason I like PRR is because they had a variety of locomotives big and small and especially big ones the S2 turbine and the Q2 but in all honesty I like both railroads

[@09JDCTrainMan]

​@@GMan9029Understandable. The PRR is my home road, along with the B&O. But I love them all.

[@DUBMANS]

Since the nyc 3001 is being restored, how about a excursion power list? Former and current power. Also loving the RT3 ost.

[@jordanludewig]

The t1 belongs in S tier

[@GMan9029]

People disagree but idgaf, I love them.

[@jordanludewig]

@@GMan9029 Me too👍

[@mattb.2359]

As for the S1, the only reason it was ran on that singular stretch of track was it was a rigid frame design, so it literally couldn't bend in the middle. So it's not a normal articulated steam engine that pivots above its drivers.

[@GMan9029]

I mean I did say that in the video

[@TrainLover-wt9ix]

12:06 Where can I get that ATSF 5000 class in trainz?

[@GMan9029]

Kitbashed from a ATSF 2900 northern, original model is on WIT Simulations.

[@MooseRailfanProductions]

As a Pennsy fan. Could you do a PRR electric locomotive tier list as a future video?

[@hush6149]

"Not as good as NYC but it's alright" Buddy they produced the two largest streamlined locomotives ever made in response to the Hudsons (and one of them holds the speed record

[@GMan9029]

It’s a running bit I’m gonna have through the series, I love both railroads. NYC imo is better cause of bias (I live on a former NYC line).

[@tueypjr4823]

I have a soft spot for the S1 since I live on the line it spent its time on

[@Voucher765]

And I love the I1 Hippos, 4483 should have a second chance and maybe someday they can run her on home rails and even in New Jersey since PRR ran both the corridor and NY&LB

[@GoofyVirginian630]

Wasn’t there a B60 found in the weeds and was saved by Wilmington and Western?

[@eleaherrera-o8v]

You should do a steam tier list on Southern-pacific ore Union Pacific

[@Bendy_devil_darling]

For the prr 4-8-4 ones I kinda dig I don’t know why but the Mohawks/mountains type and the Hudsons/Baltics types by far my favorite locomotives

[@drink_ur_prune_juice]

PRR never had 4-8-4 locomotives. Do you mean the 4-4-4-4 (PRR T1) ones?

[@ianfernandez2735]

28:07: Never mind the driver wheel. But do my eyes see correctly or do I need new glasses. Cause that does not look like a k4 if it has 4 trailing trucks behind that thing.

[@GMan9029]

Yeah I just now realized that lmao

[@Kira-vy7vc]

B&O tier list when (also did you hear about 3001 restoration?)

[@GMan9029]

When K&L makes the EM-1 lol. Also yes I have, very cool.

[@jonathanpan6110]

that j1 buried beneath a railyard be like

[@GMan9029]

No it’s not, I want people to stop saying there’s a J1 buried underneath Enola yard.

[@mikestudioz216]

0:02 I wholeheartedly agree w/ that

[@AndrewClauto1361]

That last k4 has a 4 wheel trialing truck… that makes it a Hudson,not a Pacific

[@KnapfordMaster98]

The G5 getting S tier goes so hard. Such a handsome engine.

[@GMan9029]

I don’t care if they were trash, they’re cool engines.

[@KnapfordMaster98]

@@GMan9029 I refuse to believe there is trash on the railroad. any choo choo is good choo choo.

[@hudsonfan5426]

28:07, is that a New York Central Hudson from temu!

[@mikestudioz216]

16:17 Did u know the Pennsy L1s got the nickname Lollipops?

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

I like that first switcher. Very cute. However i am not a fan of those sloped tenders. The second switcher had a nicer looking tender

[@williamadams7865]

No mention of the Australian T1 clone (the South Australian Railways 520 class). Big ooooof.

[@TheHoveHeretic]

OK, so even a Brit knew about the UP Big Boys, NYC Niagaras and Pennsy T1s, but I'm learning loads lately and this vid has been a great learning curve. Got to say, I'm a tad amused by the rankings by the US system which here would see the LNER's Gresley A4 class in the same ranking category as the W Worsdell* A6, or Hill's Y4 with T Worsdell's* Y6. No? The LNER Encyclopedia is your friend!! *brothers

[@GMan9029]

Glad you found this video useful!

[@mumumaaaah]

Hi G man will you do a tier list of southern pacific steam next?

[@MemerBoy420-q9g]

Penn central guy is seething rn 💀

[@trainguy2155]

Pennsylvania railroad no. 1320 is hiding in the shadows below e tier. lol

[@GustavoCunha-gx8gt]

Why do prr always scrap there steam trains bruh

[@pennsy6755]

17:11 hey look it’s my whistle asset (shameless self promo ☠️) Anyways here’s some facts for some PRR classes: 1. There were plans for another subclass after the M1b but were shelved cause of the influx of diesels being purchased. 2. The reason why these engines were removed from passenger service is actually explained! I don’t know the full answer myself but one reason why is because their massive side rods and cylinders coupled with the 72inch drivers made the Pullmans have, to quote complaints towards the Passenger Department from angry passengers, “a rather bumpy ride.” 3. There were plans for both an oil fired _and_ a water tubed firebox variant of the M1. Much like L1s 2861. 4. Before the 40s, top speeds for the I1s’ were 30 mph whilst its N1s/N2sa behemoth cousins were rated for 40. This was changed later on when the I1s’ were rebuilt to I1sa’s. 5. H5s (while not mentioned in this video thank god) literally only existed for helper service up the Altoona Slope until the 20s where they all died. 6. Coast to coast tenders are a pain to do research on. No I’m dead serious. Some were riveted, others were welded. It’s confusing. 7. *_FUTURA FONT ON THEIR STEAM FLEET IS A NIGHTMARE TO RESEARCH._* 8. L1s 2861 (the weird water tubed firebox engine) was actually rebuilt by Baldwin. Not the B&O. I could go on and on but those are the major eight I want to get off my chest. Being a member of the PRRT&HS whilst researching obscure rail lines the PRR ran does this to ya kids.

[@porthuronerieproductions9980]

28:09 Gotta love the attempt to reverse-engineer a scullin disc to get around the patents :) Oh and it gets much worse... There's a K4 that got rebuilt to have one side Baldwin disc and the other side webbed. There's also the PRR's GARBAGE factor of safety for their boilers which was justified by the time, but that's another can of worms.

[@northjerseyrailfan9326]

DO TIER LISTS, THE MIGHT GET LOTS OF VIEWS

[@Yoboitimmyy]

I swear, why does the long haul tenders fit so well with the prr locos?

[@gamingwityaboicolby1217]

New York Central, Pennsy, and New Haven roll into a round house.

[@DMIRyellowstoneFan]

Also is it just me, or was the Pennsy, like, obsessed with mass-producing steam engines. Like seriously, OVER 3000 CONNIES!? PENNSY, WHY DID YOU NEED SO MANY!?

[@GMan9029]

At the time the 2-8-0 was the standard freight locomotive, plus Pennsy had tons of branch lines.

[@MemerBoy420-q9g]

PRR E7 #7002 allegedly went 127mph by accident

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

How dare you be so dismissively crul to the cool little switchers!

[@GMan9029]

Cope. I don’t hate switchers btw, I just don’t care about them.

[@neargaming2057]

Can you cover the B&O at some point? It's annoying how much the line is overlooked.

[@GMan9029]

B&O steam is really underrated imo and I love B&O, will cover at some point!

[@CoopStrasburgfan]

Nothing beats a k4... unless its a hudson

[@GMan9029]

Both can exist in harmony, both are good.

[@WeNeedMusicEverywhere]

I have to agree with G-Man The G5, are great Engines you can ever have great speed great power so prefect for commuters but there my most favorite out of all ten Wheelers and it is also great to know there 3 surviving examples of them such great engines

[@GMan9029]

Honestly in terms of performance, the G5’s weren’t good. You’d be much better off with a K or E class. But I personally don’t care about performance, it’s honestly hard to describe.

[@WeNeedMusicEverywhere]

@GMan9029 can you do The Chasepeak & Ohio next but as a Christmas Special

[@brennan-p6j]

9:17 You know that LIRR G-5 #39 is being restored to operational condition, right? Since you like the g class so much, you will want to hear this!

[@joshuasantos3692]

Do a NW tier list next

[@Lv-sl3rm]

The wheelslip is somewhat overstated. Yes they were more prone to it than other designs but it wasn't nearly as bad as people seem to want to think. Also there's not a small amount of anecdotal evidence regarding the S1's speed record. Plenty of it hitting 130 and the crew getting ticketed for hitting ~150 AVERAGE speed. Yeah, AVERAGE.

[@williamtheNWRS3class]

the A'5s F's C1's and E6's are my person favorite pennsy engines tbh ALSO where SLSF/frisco tierlist (1527 is underrated as hell compared to its sister 1522 imo)

[@GMan9029]

I really don’t like frisco so probably never gonna happen, sorry

[@williamtheNWRS3class]

@@GMan9029 w h a t

[@CoreytheATSFConnie]

24:03 how did you change the T1's whistle. its bugged me for decades that its just a low pitch 5 chime

[@DMIRyellowstoneFan]

Imagane a Pennsy Challenger. That would be something. I'm gonna call it the GG2!

[@GMan9029]

No…

[@DMIRyellowstoneFan]

@GMan9029 aw man :(

[@ShinGhidorah17]

I suggest you make a ranking of Reading & Northern locomotives.

[@GMan9029]

idk, I don't really want to rank modern railroads with the exception of CSX.

[@ShinGhidorah17]

@@GMan9029 Steam locomotives, I mean.

[@colestrains1]

I will say this, great list, however, the s2 turbine deserved to be a better locomotive than it was. 97% efficient at high speed I just wish she was built as a conventional steam locomotive

[@OfficialTrainzGod]

Me, looking at 5385, realizing that it's a photoshop someone did and made it a hudson:

[@GMan9029]

Oh I didn't realize that was a photoshop lmao

[@OfficialTrainzGod]

@@GMan9029 It's still cursed, just more cursed than you first thought lmao

[@jakeford12]

Well the 7002 is actually another engine disguised as 7002, the real 7002 was cut up somewhere in the 30s.

[@GMan9029]

I’m aware, I just didn’t feel the need to mention it, still a W an earlier E class was preserved.

[@JudeGalbraith-v8m]

0:03 FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

[@FrancesHogan-j8s]

Hey the real PRR 7002 was scraped & the pensey regreted it so then they found a similar E-2 to 7002, PRR 8063 & PRR 7002 was a E-3

[@GMan9029]

I’m aware, still an early Atlantic preserved.

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

Gresley used the k4 for inspiration for scottsman"s class? Man, i gotta paint a model of them blue to look like an american Gordon then

[@RascalTrainz]

You would essentally get hank if you do that.

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

@RascalTrainz true. But Gordon is a lighter shade of blue. And I had no idea who Hank was until you mentioned him, compelling me to look him up

[@RascalTrainz]

@@ShukakuTheCrazy1 I don’t blame you. He is a character that is easily forgotten, he appeared in only one episode in season 12.

[@ShukakuTheCrazy1]

@RascalTrainz and I had stopped watching after season 5 but I did resume for the final few seasons after I learned the series got better again. Some of the later movies were actually good

[@evangaines2303]

At least Pennsy was alot more kind to preservation, unlike their rival New York Central.

[@FellowManofAggieland]

Any chance you may do a Union Pacific Steam Tier list?

[@VietTheKong]

HOT TAKE: But imo I think the Q1 is one of the most visually pleasing large steam locomotive the PRR made (based on aesthetics and body design)...I think the streamlined roof design flush with the tender panels. Kinda like the S series locomotives and the T1's... I feel like the large gap from the top of the cab roof to the top of the tender in locomotives like the J1, M1, and Q2 just don't sit right with me. I understand those are freight locomotives vs the streamlined style of passenger locomotives (like the T1 and S1) but it was just a weird niche design that I could never unsee. If you ignore the biggest issue of the backwards duplex drive, The Q1 design looks strong, powerful and sleek and the streamlining is flush from the top of the cab to the top of coal bunker of the tender. If the PRR bit the bullet and designed a 4-8-4 locomotive it should look more like this vs let’s say a longer M1 or something. Just my opinion…

[@GMan9029]

I honestly just can’t get over the backwards set of drivers, it’s too weird looking. Plus imo the semi streamlined look of the Q2 is just better.

[@VietTheKong]

@@GMan9029 i understand...what I usually do is just squint my eyes and you can sorta see a cool looking PRR 4-10-4

[@JessicaGorman-f7w]

i love pennsy!

[@rail-ryder7135]

I like the postwar look better.

[@GMan9029]

Yeah me too.

[@thehotwheelsracer1295]

Hey you think you can do a tier list on steam locomotives from the Union Pacific, southern pacific, or the c&o? I’m really enjoying this series!

[@brennan-p6j]

3:19 0-6-0 number 643 is operational, you do know that, right?

[@GMan9029]

Yes I do, happy the little guy is still kicking!

[@brennan-p6j]

@@GMan9029 I know and I think that 643 is so cute!

[@EastboundProductions]

@@GMan9029glad to see 643 in this! I’m a fireman on her and it’s pretty cool to see her mentioned in these types of videos. Thank you!

[@NoahStillittano-p1e]

Yep I saw some videos of that engine.I wonder where that new dew place is gonna run.

[@Petboch]

28:28 also doesn't it have hudson wheel arrangement

[@InadButters]

6:57 CLIP IT CLIP I-

[@grahamsattinger1006]

could you do another tier list with santa fe please

[@Spud607]

The T1s performance wise were pretty crap I heard. The prototypes were good but the rest were rolling scrap iron from what I heard from most technical historians. Very very ugly aswell imop. It looks like a garden shed got stuck to the front. I'd go as far to say all the K4's at the end are miles ahead of that thing regarding looks.

[@GMan9029]

The T1’s (when they worked) were pretty solid I’d say, it was more so down to crews not knowing how to run them properly. At the time they were familiar with conventional engines like a K4, this was new tech to them. As for aesthetics, to each their own.

[@ratulmondal2832]

Next tier list should be a Milwaukee Road one

[@GMan9029]

Maybe not the next one, but I will do it eventually.

[@railfan475productions3]

"not as good as the new york central" *PRR who has more preserved equipment

[@GMan9029]

Both are good

[@ArkansasLocomotiveWorks]

Banjo signals tracks numbered wrong, you'll be lucky enough to go 20 miles an hour!

[@tarktheshark_]

which trainz game is that?

[@Waffle4321]

MOUNTAIN BABY RAGHHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅