By far, Blackie is far more professional and informative than others. His analytical mind permits him to ensure that detailed data is provided. Because of this, the work he puts into these videos is of greater importance to the viewers than those that merely "touch the surface" regarding percussion revolvers. Very impressive ... ALSO, his voice is easy to listen to as a well-educated Teacher.
@rickmulhern43302 ай бұрын
Outstanding videos Blackie; enjoy them so much. Bought an 1858 New Model Army .44 Pietta about two years ago and really enjoy shooting it. I've got a lot of time with blackpowder shooting but mostly in rifle so I enjoy your videos big time. I have been highly surprised at the engineering and machine work with this revolver and also the accuracy! I have been shooting strictly RB but might explore with conicals soon! Keep up the good work with the videos!
@Zebra3rs4 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent tutorial. I learned a lot and took the Mystery out of the different sized balls. Thanks. Love your videos!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@swampfox53294 жыл бұрын
What he said
@shawnnelson61463 жыл бұрын
Out in Nebraska I had only one supply of lead round balls, they only stocked the .451 lead round ball. The balls were a slip fit in my revolver, I ended up bumping the ball up a tad, I set the ball on a hard flat surface and smaked it with a hammer to swell the ball enuf to shave a ring on loading. It saved driving 3 hours to a source lead balls. Back in 1980's it was best to mail order what you could.
@DJ-dt4kz4 жыл бұрын
Was always taught, "the ring of approval" Thanks for great fun series 👍
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@pauldavis55782 жыл бұрын
Great video. You answered all my questions. Thank you
@Al-Fiallos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie, I never miss any of your black powder series. Your 'common' sense style is perfect and the editing excellent. Regards, Al
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much..i am gonna try and do one each week on wed..we will see how well it goes
@ajmorton29944 жыл бұрын
Helped me alot to understand the mechanics of everything, lots to learn still, thank you for the video
@Tammy-un3ql4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Blackie.
@MrLukkar2 жыл бұрын
Superb lesson, we all really do appreciate your input into teaching us to become wiser c&b users!
@BLACKIETHOMAS2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bobeadgbe4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mr blackie!.....i am 60, and retired. i just purchased a uberti walker 44 cal revolver. i am also new to blackpowder shooting, and i have yet not shot the revolver as its hunting season here in pa, and out of respect to my fellow hunters i will wait till the season is over. my range is in my backwoods. in the mean time i have been learning alot from you, and others. this video helped me out alot as well. i really like that shirt too!....lol. keep up the good work sir!
@jimv.6614 жыл бұрын
Something you might consider is keeping a 3 ring notebook dedicated to each gun to put the targets in as you work up the loads. For the last 48 years, I've written the load and date on the target and filed them in the notebook dedicated to that gun. I can look back almost half a century and instantly see what loads in that gun grouped the best with the various load changes and better recognize patterns.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
i do something like that as well
@notsosilentmajority14 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thanks for the in-depth review and explanation. For those of us that are new to BP this video really explained a lot. Thank you.
@GunsmithRyther4 жыл бұрын
Good information, well presented. Much of this information took me years to find on my own in the seventies. Sure wish we would've had KZbin back then!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@frc_99334 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this excellent video.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@wolfpack27234 жыл бұрын
You are a really good teacher!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@andrew86824 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual! I have learned so much about BP revolvers from your channel. I truly believe if you compiled related segments together you could make an awesome dvd on different topics surrounding the percussion revolver that would be worth buying. Thanx again!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
maybe one day
@brakk7273 жыл бұрын
How can I pre-order? Love the videos.
@gregoryschmitz2131 Жыл бұрын
Well discussed and presented. While I am pretty new to this, I have gone the seal route by the brand on the bullet. I drive a ball/bullet in, do Blackies check but then also drive it out as centered as I can with a punch. I have an 76 ASP and a current NMA. Both give me 1/4 inch bands with a .457 ball (that is what came with the ASP). From the Pietta book and with Blackie discussion, I have concluded I can probably use a .454 ball (the JD conical s are .460). Pietta recommends a .454 ball in their current manual. If I get the Ruger Old Model Army that will start with the .457 ball and JD conical. There is a lot to learn in this area, more complex than reloading ammunition in many ways. An added bit for those getting older BP revolvers, in the case of the ASP at least, the chambers are tapered. No shaved lead but you can see it coating lead a bit down the chamber and it does create the 1/4 inch band. I did some careful testing before I went with multiple loaded cylinders. As an aside, the ASP cones are quite good, the Pietta NMA are awful and have been replaced.
@joecallahan33793 жыл бұрын
Very good information for the novice
@AryDontSurf4 жыл бұрын
I bought the .454 mold, has a nice ring when loaded. I figured oversize was better since chambering the balls works almost like a sizer. The pocket pistols were a little more difficult, all i could find was .311 or .315 which were both looser than I'm comfortable with. Just finally found a decent .319 mold that is perfect..
@BigD-jc6rj4 жыл бұрын
I’ve used 451s in an anachronistic 1851 Navy for years (Historically accurate 1851s were 36 cal, and never existed in 44). I always seat them on top of a prelubed wad to prevent chainfires (1/8” thick Durafelt soaked in a melted mixture of 1 pound lamb tallow, 1/2 pound beeswax).
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
sounds good
@swampfox53294 жыл бұрын
This was a very welcomed and informative video. Thanks Blackie
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@spiritualawakenings62514 жыл бұрын
Hey Blackie always great to see a new video from you, very informative as always. I just finished converting one of my Pietta 1858 Remingtons to 45 Colt using the new 6 shot gated converter from Howells paired with the improved ejector from Kirst. A bit on the expensive side but very pleasing results. Something you may want to check out in the future if you haven't already. Thanks again.
@cal90644 жыл бұрын
Another great tutorial, Blackie. Keep up the good work.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
i will do my best
@billymiller32494 жыл бұрын
good stuff Blackie"I've considered these thing's but this is purely conclusive"..I've wndrd bout the ball's walkin back and increasing pressure one shot to the next"..i creep up on max/most efficient charge but want a balance and I'm reading the lead ring with .454 as perfectly fit in my chamber after this tutorial"..you keep rockin it ddode".
@Ford360CID2 жыл бұрын
Blackie i just purchased a Uberti 1858 in .44 cal it was on sale at midway use for 339$ along with the powder accessories, i just won a bid on ebay for a lyman 2 cavity .454 round ball mold which i believe will suffice for reliability, your black powder knowledge is hands down against the rest of the other black powder experts by giving accurate details on the subject of black powder revolvers, it does make a great difference adding more bearing surface by using a larger diameter ball but at what price? this is my 1st go around with black powder and i,m very excited with my new hobby, i will be seeking your videos for black powder guidance thank you for your information.
@sdolsay4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie, great info!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@erinbiggers77094 жыл бұрын
Thanx bro I forced a 50 sabot in mine to see if I could cause they are cheap and I got a fat ring but with ffg powder it still had a good pop
@royseifert30784 жыл бұрын
Blackie, my two Pietta Remington 1858 New Army Revolvers had .446 chambers, but have .451 bores which cannot be good for accuracy. A smaller diameter ball wobbling down a larger barrel will negatively affect accuracy. My Ruger Old Army has .452 chambers and a .451 barrel, which is why it uses a .457 round ball. I opened up the chambers of my 1858 New Army revolvers to .4525 so I will be using .457 round balls (I already had the mold). This should improve the accuracy of the revolvers. Great video as always, Blackie.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
very true i have had a fun guns with undersize chambers..it can be a challenge to find the right combo to get accurracy
@stinger45834 жыл бұрын
That's good info. Thanks, Blackie.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@independentthinker89304 жыл бұрын
Happy to see this series
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
there is lots more to come
@havocthi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blacky great info. I'm finding my brand new 1851 Navy is not holding the LED balls very tight at 454 I may need to jump up to 457 thank you
@therightisright82762 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie, I needed to rewatch this one. Due to Covid, the bp gunmakers in Italy got in a big rush to catchup production, so qc slipped abit giving me a Pietta 1858 Remington .44 with 6 different sized chambers that failing to change cutting bits likely caused. My gunsmith fixed it and recommended the 457 balls and said also to load it up so the ball or conical bullet is as close to the cylinder edge as possible, which sounds weird but makes sense. So Im off to buy 457 balls and conicals and see.
@BLACKIETHOMAS2 жыл бұрын
best of luck to you
@USAACbrat4 жыл бұрын
Hi Blackie, if you have a ball that is too big, you can carefully roll the ball or bullet between two pieces of glass to create a driving band. This technique was used by old time target shooters to eliminate voids in cast bullets and eliminate variations in cast bullets. Another trick they used was to sewage a bullet in three parts with the driving band of soft lead. To obtain a consistent size include a proper sized marble or steel ball with the ball you are making and roll them together. More than one way to skin a cat.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
true i have cast lead bullets with a mold and 2 kinds of lead..one hard one dead soft..to make a soft point bullets with a hard driving bands
@Rumblestrip4 жыл бұрын
I know it's not designed for cartridges, but seeing that Johnson and dow on that 45 acp, I wonder if the lube Grove would seat into the case and give you proper OAL to fit in the magazine... Or be long enough in 45 colt to give proper OAL.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
it will seat into a 45 acp and crimp into lube grove..BUT.. the bullet is so long (a lot of it is that point ) your gonna need a seating stem to match
@robertglenn87593 жыл бұрын
Blacker I am brand new to B.P. I have a 1858 .44 and on order a 1851 .36 colt I bought 451 for the 1858 3.75 for the colt. My question is instead of me worrying if the .451 might be too small can I play it safe and just buy .454 now? even if the 1858 is good with the 451's and what size could I use in the .36 so i can pretty much order balls and be pretty sure it is big enough BTW you are very knowledgeable and interesting to listen too Bob from Fl.
@chaecoco28 ай бұрын
I use 457 in all my revolvers. The ball will be shaved (compressed) down to cylinder bore size anyway, so what difference does it make if you use 451, 454 or 457. Since I also have some ROA in my mix of cap and ball revolvers, I just go with the larger round ball size. Shoot well in all my cap and ball revolvers and don't have to sort balls.
@ronalde.baggerly67794 жыл бұрын
Blackie I have an Uberti 1860 army colt 44 the paper work says to use.. 454 in it my problem is the 454 goes in without shaving off a ring of lead and I've had round balls just fall out of the gun so I have been using 490 round balls in it just a little harder to ram them in but they don't fall out and I do get a ring of lead
@bobscruggs88864 жыл бұрын
I was using .457 ball in my Ruger Old Army 44 cal It was a real tight and I bent the loading lever at the top due to the the stress in compressing the ball it cost $ 40 to replace just the upper rod you suggested using 454 which works great , Ruger seems to have a larger bored out cylinder than my Colt made by Colt in 1973 which I think would be OK using 451 ball without affecting the accuracy , thanks for your suggestion
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
glad to be of help
@philroe23632 жыл бұрын
I just purchased 2 Colt replica's - Uberti and Pietta . . . and 2 Remington replica's, both Uberti's - all in .44. . . all of them came in shaving a perfect sized ring off of a .451 ball, so it looks like they are more or less consistent on that size. Also, for those who cast their own balls, if the balls are slow cooled out of the mold, as opposed to dropped into a water bucket, they tend to be about 1-2 thousandths smaller . . . typically you get a nominal ball out of slow cooling, and a bit larger with rapid cooling.
@spud4ever2904 жыл бұрын
Difference in measuring barrels , actually . They used to measure the 'bore' diameter (@ .445-.447 in today's repro's) as opposed to the diameter of the groove lands (@ .451-.454 in our modern repros). Oddly , the ".44" cylinder bores are universally undersized as to barrel sizes as well , and benefit from bullet seats being "upgraded" by pasting a bullet with valve grinding paste and given a 15 minute lapping per cylinder bore .
@gilleskarribou10094 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Hi from France Blackie!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
hello and welcome to the channel safe journeys
@waddney41214 жыл бұрын
I thought they classified them as 44s or 36s as that was what the barrel measured internally before it was rifled (they measured land to land an we nowadays measure groove to groove)
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
correct over time we change how we measured..
@NotAJ-yn3xe3 жыл бұрын
Im trying to find a mold for 454 balls but they are purged right now. Impossible to find even auction ebay. Can only find 457.
@gregjaussaud719811 ай бұрын
Great information thank you!
@SouthernAppalachian.444 ай бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge
@jeepsblackpowderandlights43053 жыл бұрын
I use 457 because its all i could find, 454 is sold out everyyyywhere online, 451 i can find some.. but i dont want undersized, so i bought 3 100 ball boxes in cabelas of 457... 457 actually makes a nice ring in both my 1851 navy.. and this gun is EXTREMELY accurate.. i can shoot into the same holes on my target paper from my prior shots.. Both 1851 navy in 44cal i have, are LIGHTYEARS more acurrate than my 1911 and my glock 19. Its crazy.. because of this i actually carry both loaded when i go to the store sometimes.. i know thats silly to some of you but ya. The pietta i have the intructions say to use 454.. but again i couldnt find 454.. and 457 isnt that hard to load to be honest
@lightningstarsky3 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing just bought a 1858 Pietta new army sheriff and I too bought the 457s because there’s nothing else and I’m gonna use triple 7 powder with them I’m hoping for primer accuracy
@madmechanic79764 жыл бұрын
I have ,454 in my walker. It shaved the ball but it stayed down in the cylinder with the ball.
@samwilliams11422 жыл бұрын
My ASM Walker has one chamber oversized that always shoots lower. That is marked and never loaded my safety notch.
@GunDrone4 жыл бұрын
if your chambers are chamfered then there will be no lead shaving. Best case is listen to what the manufacturer says is the size. Some gun like my CVA 1858 Remington says .451. The Navy Arms 1858 Remington is unmarked and uses the .454..
@hamm60354 жыл бұрын
QUESTION SIR: What is your opinion on reaming the chambers to ensure concentrisity and consistent size. ie. .449 or .450? Also chamfering the forcing cone to 11° ? Thanks for the info.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
i have dont that in effect in guns over the yrs..i have found unless a chamber was way undersize it did not help in a big way..but the forceing cone did make difference..often a simple polish job would improve accuracy
@jacobheard38074 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video . I have recently started melting my own lead to cast bullets . Have you done or will you be doing any videos on casting your own bullets?
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
i have been doing my own for many yrs ..i am kinda on the fence to do it for the channel since youtube is so finicky on making any kind of ammo sort of thing i may do a test video just to see how it is treated
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV4 жыл бұрын
Excellent insightful video!
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Backie! You did an excellent job "clearing" the "Fog" on a confusing subject. Sizing a percussion revolver to a projectile is important. I beleive in "Slugging" the Bore" with a Round Ball or one of my Universal Bullets. How I do this is I first remove the cylinder from the revolver. Then I take a short (4 +inches long) piece of 2x4 wood and I line up the projectile on the center of the muzzle of the barrel and I use a Plastic Tent State Mallet and hammer strike in the projectile into the bore. I then take a Muzzleloading Ball Bullet Starter and push with my palm in the projectile as far as it goes into the barrel and lastly I use a Muzzleloading Pistol Ramrod or Hardwood Dowle with a Wood "Hand Savior" used for aiding in pushing a Ramrod pushing projectile down a Muzzleloader's rifled bore I finally Drive ( push) the projectile through the barrel until the Ball/ Bullet exists the barrel. Then I take my Caliper to measure the Ball or Bullet several times writing down each of the dimension of the Ball/ Bullet. I then measure each of the Cylinder chambers width's - dimensions as well as the Barrel diameter at the Muzzle. All dimensions taken are recorded and calculated against each other. If the cylinder dimensions show a proportionaly smaller gap( under size) compared to the bore size measurement I will send the cylinder to my friend Master Black Powder Gunsmith Dykes Reber of the muzzleloadershop.com located in Berryville Arkansas for neccessary Reaming which Enlarges the width daimeter of the cylinder chambers. Afterwards I will reblue a blued cylinder. Some Shooters and Hunters have been asking if my Custom 6 Cavity Universal Bullet molds in 44/45 and 36 caliber are available. To answer them,Yes all of my custom Universal Bullet molds are available for immidate shipment. Please direct all inquiries to kaido93@hotmail.com. I like your "Percussion Wednesday" Videos they are definitely a plus for all percussion revolver users!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
thank you sir i will be testing your fine ammo very shortly
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV4 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS That sounds good. If you need any of my 44/45 Universal Bullet in 220/240/255 grains or my 36 caliber 140 and 145 versions. Let me know and I will get you them.
@taurushipointenthusiast13063 жыл бұрын
I will sayt awesome How about wonder wads tween ball powder, these deter the dreaded chain fire?
@Hugh_Mungus8 ай бұрын
so they are actually .448-.449, thank you so much are these revolver chambers the same diameter as the barrel?
@johnreutter60644 жыл бұрын
This man wants to shares good information not show what he can do. Great video/knows his shit/thanks
@suzz17763 жыл бұрын
I am new to bp and have a 1851 navy snubnose. i got .454 cuz my neighbor said that is what he used to shoot in them decades ago. but did I make a mistake. I have made about 20 cartridges so far, getting ready to go to the range. but should i go and buy .451 and make those also or will I be ok with these. I would love some advice please. thanks y'all and btw great video I learned a lot
@jake41943 жыл бұрын
454 should be perfect
@jer9914 жыл бұрын
i buy .44 balls for my 45 caliber rifle' then i buy .454 for .44 caliber revolver. and found double aught buck for my 31 cal. love black powder shooting... now learning what the FFF works best
@FabFaulconbery3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jackjones9460 Жыл бұрын
Ever try to shoot a minie ball? Do you use the same diameter?
@duke9274 жыл бұрын
Thanks Blackie really enjoy your percussion revolver videos. One question can you use a Cowboy action soft lead cartridge bullet (.452) in a percussion revolver. Getting it to sit straight in the chamber may be the problem as I see it. Thanks.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
yep thats the problem i have used 45 acp leads before but take my advice look up eras gone bullet molds a kerr bullet or a johnson and dow will be far easier to load and give good results
@jason60chev4 жыл бұрын
Hey Blackie....SInce you mentioned the cylinder chamber possibly not being all the same diameter or even truly round, could you touch on or recommend a procedure for maing them uniform....like reaming the chambers?
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
only a really good plug gauge will show if its out of round..and you could go to brownells and they have reamers for such jobs
@greywuuf4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever looked in to the relationship between you chamber sizes and the bore/groove diameters of your guns. Have you ever opened up chambers to better fit your barrels ?
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
i have in the past it was a common problem of chambers way undersize for the bores..but today quality control is way way better..and i have not had a undersize in quite a awhile..what i have found is as long as at least the chamber is a bit larger..(say chamber of 451 to a 451 bore) everything is good..plus pure lead ammo will bump up usually and fill the bore better
@greywuuf4 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS I keep letting my smokeless big bore thought process creep in. I dont get bump up with linotype or heat treated lead and have had to open my ruger up a good bit to make it shoot well.
@suzz17763 жыл бұрын
since I live in commifornia, it is hard to get to a range, all the time due to covid and politics etc.., and I can't very well go test shooting in my backyard. lol. that would b a one way ticket to the sherriff's office. lol. so is there a way to test the size ball without having to shoot it, to get it out of the chamber after. like would it b ok to remove the nipple and then ram the ball in by itself to see if it has a good fit and then push it out the hole that the nipple would have covered? or do I have to actually shoot the thing to know if it has a good fit. range time is hard to get right now and I am trying to b as prepared as I can b with all my cartridges made and caps made ahead of time, so when I get there and pay by the half hour, I dont have to waste time making anything. I dont have alot of money and I wanna b able to spend every min I have at the range, learning how to shoot correctly etc.. instead of having to spend my time making my amo and then not having any time left to shoot.. thanks for the video btw. u have helped me out immensly with ur videos :)
@davidlane74343 жыл бұрын
Wild hair brother, have you ever loaded the kaido .36 in a paper cartridge? Just thinking. Thanks brother.
@USAACbrat4 жыл бұрын
I have a Pietta Wyat Earp with a 12 " bbl with a longer rammer, I use Hornady .490 ball with a .oo5 patch. it would be a stretch but I am going to try to load the.490 ball. what do you think my chances are? Should I chamfer the chambers or not. I am going to try without.
@63DW89A4 жыл бұрын
Muzzle loaders were (and still are!) caliber designated by bore diameter (Land-to-land of rifled bore). Caliber-designating by rifling groove-to-groove began to be used as metallic cartridges were developed in te 1850's/60's/70's. So a 45 ACP pistol, with a 0.443" bore and 0.451" groove is a "44" in muzzle loading terms, but a "45" in breech loading terms. This is why the "44" Army C&B revolvers can shoot breech loading cartridges that are "45" caliber! For best accuracy, a C&B revolver (Ruger Old Army example) with a 0.452" rifling groove should have a cylinder chamber diameter of 0.453", and the round ball/conical bullet diameter should be at least 0.457" (4/1000" larger than chamber diameter) for a proper seal and friction fit. Even larger doesn't hurt. For example Pietta "44" chambers are 0.446" typical diameter, so a 0.451" ball will work fine, but a Ruger 0.457" ball will work as well too, possibly even better due to the larger bearing surface of the larger ball after seating. Exact ball size isn't all that critical in a C&B revolver, as long as the ball is at least 4/1000" larger than the chamber. Even 10 or 12 thousands larger is OK, because the loading lever will easily swage the oversize projectile into the chamber mouth! Better to be larger than needed, as it is the undersized projectile that can cause a chain fire, or jump the chamber under recoil and tie up the action!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
and the larger ball will create a wider driving band( due to the swaging effect )
@billyhill49374 жыл бұрын
Hi Blackie. I swapped out a few parts on my old Colt to preserve some of the antique parts. I installed a new cylinder, hammer and hand from a new 1860 Uberti. I had to do a bit of fitting and timing work but everything seems to be OK and the timing is on. I noticed a problem when I lowered the hammer down onto the safety pin between the chambers. If I rotate the cylinder to about half way between the safety pin and the nipple, I can lower the hammer then cock it and the cylinder rotates and everything works fine. If I rotate the cylinder then lower the hammer so it it centered right on the safety pin I can't cock the hammer again. Any ideas why ?
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
yes the cyl bolt stop is locking in position and not unlocking until you fiddle with the hammer..the legs of the bolt are jamming the hammer
@billyhill49374 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS Thanks Blackie. Other than this issue I've got it working really well and the timing is right on. I could live with it as it is and use it. I could just let the hammer down just before the safety pin for a safe position with 6 loaded but if there is any easy fix I might give it a try. Do I just need to tweak/trim the bolt stop. and is there a chance I might have to readjust something else if I do? I could try changing out the Cylinder/bolt stop as it came from a from a gun that matched the hammer. I will maybe try that and see if it fixes the issue.
@stargod30644 жыл бұрын
Will a 454 be good in a Uberti 1860 44cal revolver? And should I put a wad between them? Or can i shoot it dry if I clean it good? And what are your thoughts on using 30 grain pyrodex pellets with revolvers? I just want to be safe when shooting my first time thanks,
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
454 will work..a wad is best or a smear of lube over ball keels the bore from running dry and causing ledding and fouling
@danielquinnell68672 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Blackie, you are educating me on black powder. I just bought my first pietta and don't quite know much about them but am really learning a lot by your down home precision teaching here.
@wonder-bred4 жыл бұрын
Hello Blackie, I came across a statement from other videos called the somethin or uther of diminishing returns, regarding increase in velocity to a point where no more can be had due to barrel length and whatnot, would this make an 1860 army and a walker near about even in power? The average was somewhere around 35, 40 grains of powder and 1100 fps. Numbers may be off but just looking for a rough estimate, i know some powders are better than others.
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
at face value you would think that..but in field work the walker is a good deal more powerful..than many of our modern guns today unless its a magnum odds are the walker is stronger..and remember the walker lead to the dragoons 1st thru 3rd..then came the 1860..which is effect the last dragoon the 1860 is a powerful gun..
@sf22154 жыл бұрын
i have an 1851 navy .44 cal. i bought .44 cal - .443''. the ball seems to be too small for the chamber. do i need a bigger size ball?
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
yes they need .451 or 454 443 is for a 45 rifle with a patch
@sf22154 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS thank you. and shit i meant to put .433''
@openpeace11744 жыл бұрын
great video thank you
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Hunterslife3153 жыл бұрын
Are you able to shoot a 40cal ball out of a 44cal black powder pistol?
@BLACKIETHOMAS3 жыл бұрын
afraid not..in 45 cal rifles the ball is .440 the thick patch makes up the thickness needed to reach .451 in a revolver you need ball larger to swage down to proper size so 451 to 457
@Hunterslife3153 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS thanks. How bout the 36cal? Can they be used in any lower caliber blk powder pistol?
@Hunterslife3153 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS I'm just now getting into black powder pistols. But I've seen conversation kits to load old cowboy rounds.
@BLACKIETHOMAS3 жыл бұрын
@@Hunterslife315 the 40 cal ball sadly would be a really hard press in the 36 which is 375 to 380..
@Hunterslife3153 жыл бұрын
@@BLACKIETHOMAS so best thing to use is out of a rifle?
@e.foster12843 жыл бұрын
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@lonestarprepper01564 жыл бұрын
Excellent useful thanks
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Nocturnimancer Жыл бұрын
"Just a grunt bigger" Hadn't heard that one before.
@CAPTIVEPULSEMAKER4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@jeffrichards51064 жыл бұрын
Great information Blackie, thank you. Wish I would have know this years ago!
@BLACKIETHOMAS4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@doranmaxwell1755 Жыл бұрын
Been watching everything I can on sizing. long time handloader here. what I have always gone by is that the chamber needs to be a couple of thou BIGGER than the bore. the bore to me is the grooves not the lands. BP guys (and I am one for a few years) are telling me that an undersized chamber (compared to bore) is fine since the holy ring of lead on seating is all that counts. Sooo sending a .446 bullet down a .452 bore is fine... because that ball is oblonged and it engages the rifling a couple of thou. I do not buy this. I say to size the chambers (ream) em to a couple of thou less than bore. in my scenario (and what I do) you ream the cylinder to say 452 for a .451 bore. If the holy ring of lead is what you want you get balls that are .454 or even bigger. Why does the Ruger old Army need a .457 ball? well... if the chambers were .446 say. you could not force a ball into em. No.. the chambers or cyl is like 452+ and the bore is something close to that. They are very accurate guns. they do not send an overly small ball down the bore.
@bludmakesgrassgrow4 жыл бұрын
I use 454
@bobscruggs90514 жыл бұрын
My Ruger Old Army I used 457 ball I broke the loading lever switched to 454 much better to load .