PetrolHead Pete traded the M2 Competition for a BMW M240i 😳 - HONEST Ownership Review 4k 2022

[@JoeAchilles1]

Great video guys, Pete is on YT more than Mat Watson these days 🙌🏼

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Joe - Popular man he is!

[@PetrolheadTours]

🤣

[@M2atom]

👍

[@RickTheSpud]

He should have his own channel! 😘👌

[@jdbsoccer100]

This past month, I started looking at 2018 M2s, then 2022 m240i, then 2020/2021 M2C, then a 2024 m240i RWD haha. Decided to go with the 2022 m240i and have been very happy. Grabbed one with low mileage and at a decent price with a couple years of warranty left. Coming from a 2016 340i Great review!

[@CarMadDad]

Thank you

[@WebsiteLover]

I drive 7 looks so much better than 8, and with Xdelete you can go RWD! Nice choice

[@Tony_Zagoraios]

You won't regret it man!! Just got mine after 8 months of waiting:) You will love it.

[@jdbsoccer100]

@@Tony_Zagoraios Appreciate it fellas. As you all assumed, I am loving it! Changed the downpipe to the catted Active Autowerks for a little louder exhaust note in sport. Hope you are all enjoying your cars 🤙

[@smm6526]

Times are hard, the m240i makes significant sense, covid has hit hard, the Russia Ukrain war has worsened an already bad situation, most consumables are high, fuel, food, cost of living in general, which includes running costs of an M car, inflation has pushed prices for everything, thinking twice and re-prioritizing will lead you to the m240i which is an excellent decision, I wanted to buy the M3 but opted for this,instead, will come back later to the M3 when things cool down, for now, this is the best decision for a petrol head..

[@CarMadDad]

Thank you for the view and thoughts 👍 Sounds like some tough decisions made 👌

[@geo745don]

Don't know what country you in but In USA it's president Biden causing all the issues

[@ShortwaveLog]

Great video! Last week I sold my M2 comp :( it was in mint condition with only 6K miles. I can relate to all your comments on the M2. Below 50mph It was a struggle to 'hang on' with it being so fidgety. I did look at some suspension options but that's just plaster on the issues. Selling my M2 though was purely for financial reasons. The money saved allows me to put my son through university debt free.

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like a tough sale Ian. But all with best intentions… never a better investment than your sons education. Fingers crossed he pays you back one day 😉

[@paulcs2607]

If only more people read Martin Lewis’s guide to student finance.

[@ScottyDontt]

@@paulcs2607 Maybe he did but he's got 100% confidence in his son to land a 30k job on leaving uni then make it to 130k in 30 years....

[@Scala598]

Having seen a few in person I think they have recaptured a bit of that m-lite reputation the older cars had. Slightly odd looking in places but overall a fast and reasonably practical package.

[@CarMadDad]

Yeah agreed dude 👍

[@peterleighton279]

Excellent review and what’s refreshing is the honesty, no pandering to car manufacturers in case they don’t give you any more cars to review. Well done, keep up the good work 👏👏👏

[@CarMadDad]

That’s part of the idea Peter (glad you noticed) 😂 Cheers buddy 👍

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I prefer the BMW M240i xDrive for driving just because i like how the AwD gives a much bigger contact patch to put all the power down safely on wet roads

[@CarMadDad]

Yeah I can see that - very quick in the real world

[@HotelMarte]

Have owned this car for 2 months and love it. Was on golf R waiting list and got sick of the waiting part of the list. M240 is a Totally versatile and capable ride. A blast on the blue ridge parkway and comfortable on the streets of NYC. Like the car so much I just put a deposit on a 2023 M2 but after watching this vid, now I question that decision. Nice to have options though. If you order one make sure you load it up with all the creature comforts. They are worth it. Mine was 2 months from deposit to my driveway. I hear it’s a 4 to 5 month wait now.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts chappy Great to hear you are enjoying the ownership 👍

[@NeilMagill]

What a great video. As part of a potential purchase research, this is one of few reviews that discusses key factors in the ownership, not to mention actually allows you to hear what it sounds like. Top class.

[@CarMadDad]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TimChump]

The M2 just looks stunning and feels special, I’d find it hard to change even if the new m240 is better in every other way.

[@CarMadDad]

Agreed chappy

[@marlborom2c829]

Not better, sorry

[@TimChump]

@@marlborom2c829 🤣🤣

[@marlborom2c829]

@@TimChump 😅 👎

[@gaara4667]

@@marlborom2c829why isn’t it better?

[@Kashban]

Good talk, thanks. Most likely going to change my M135i to an M240i once the company lease runs out on the One. Not as flexible as the M135i in terms of baggage and passengers, but a lot more fun for sure.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts fella 👌

[@AUTOIDTV]

Great summary guys. We love ours and think it’s the perfect daily. The G87 M2 is going to be a whole nother beast!

[@CarMadDad]

Oh wow 😮 Hi @AutoID 👋 CAN COMPLETELY SEE WHY - what a great all round little weapon

[@PetrolheadTours]

Hi Jack 👋

[@AUTOIDTV]

@@CarMadDad for sure!!

[@vicjones3992]

Having been in with Professor Verysideways when he is on it......the look on Dale's face....😂😂😂😂😂😂.....is typical of the first time.... Initially it's a little scary ....then you very soon realise what an amazing wheelman he is and how utterly competent the cars he drives are.....within a couple of mins you relax and enjoy it.....I spent an hour in with him from Thurso to JOG.....one of the best driving experiences I have had❤❤❤❤

[@CarMadDad]

Was the look that obvious 😛 Cheers Vic 👍

[@MW_1981]

Thanks for the honest review. I have one on order without having a test drive or even seeing one in person, so it's good to see all the positive reviews on this car👍

[@CarMadDad]

Oh fair play chap - love a blind order! Alll the best for delivery day - cracking little weapon

[@spadgm]

Our family has a M2 comp and it is awesome, but also very impressed by the M240i!

[@CarMadDad]

Both great cars chappy 👍

[@Acanofbeer]

The new M2 is suited to a track so like 99% of people who don’t do track days I took delivery of my new M240 2 months ago. I love it. I use it as a daily and let loose a bit at the weekends. It’s playful yet mature kind of like myself. Very nice and honest review. Thanks 👌🇬🇧

[@CarMadDad]

Great thoughts and comments - cheers

[@1101bobada]

How long was delivery for you from ordering? Looking to place an order soon and interested in the lead times

[@Acanofbeer]

@@1101bobada actually I had to take one they had coming through because they had a £2500 finance deposit allowance and the offer would run out before a fresh factory order. That was in February this year. I can tell you this though. My spec was thundernight, comfort pack, technology pack plus. List price £53100. I got the dealer down to £47500ish and BMW put £2500 deposit in for me. Basically got the car for £45k. What a bargain 😊

[@Bugster987]

I still prefer the old M2C (without driving the new car). It’s obviously good but think it’s just the new shiny thing. M2C is a very special car.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers dude - agreed 👍

[@DaleSteel]

I had the AC SCHNITZER M2 comp. Sold it last year. Totally loved thar car.

[@andywatson4376]

E46 & M92 M3, M2c and now a 2 week old M240I - My last choice for use on our great UK roads would be the M2c

[@CarMadDad]

👍

[@seriousstuff50]

I love mine, in Thunder night Colour. Thanks for all the details.

[@CarMadDad]

Good choice!

[@441stainesphil5]

That was a very interesting chat , I learnt a lot , thanks

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Phil 👌

[@stevehs4287]

The truth is that since the death of the bespoke high revving N/A M engines the lines between a fast BMW and an M car have become blurred . The last M car I owned was the F80 M3 but as fast and accomplished as it was I missed my E92 M3 - the V8 felt special in a way the turbo 6 cylinders just don’t. I’ve not been tempted by a new BMW in years but this M240i has me thinking..

[@CarMadDad]

Here’s for the view / comments Steve - can highly recommend a test drive

[@PetrolheadTours]

That S65 V8 was a masterpiece. Imagine an E46 M3 with an S65 in it. Oooof. ❤️

[@stevehs4287]

@@PetrolheadTours Or even better , E46 M3 with the S85 V10! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHmzcoikr5trjrM

[@braddevendorf9901]

Exactly stated thank you. That is why I just took delivery of this car last week and it is a joy to drive.

[@stevehs4287]

@@braddevendorf9901 Enjoy Brad! Experiencing that engine over 8000 revs is motoring nirvana .

[@chrispittock2099]

Another cracking review CMD. If I didn't "need" my M340i Dad Wagon I would have been all over one of these to replace my F40 Mi135i. Great choice Pete, slightly jealous you have 2 though...

[@CarMadDad]

Hey Chris Cheers dude 👍 Yeah great all rounder but I’d stick with your wagon for the extra functionality 👍

[@geoffnewman2069]

M340i touring looks a hell of a lot better too

[@CarMadDad]

Agreed 👍

[@gsr2nr]

I could never make that trade, you got rid of 1 of the last great drivers cars. My m2c is my daily and love it. I do miss my sti that I got rid of but it is just a better car all around minus snow driving

[@CarMadDad]

Each to their own Jon. Peres trade is based on his needs. My not trading the M2C is based on an opinion similar to yours. Appreciate the view and comments 👍

[@BobcatBart]

Great review! Got the same car, same color, and best summed up as "No Drama".

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Bart 👍

[@adamwallace0929]

When talking about an M2, I just don’t see how motorway MPG, how it handles potholes and how “comfy” it is is relevant. You don’t buy an M2 to be comfy. You buy it because it’s an angry an M car, it’s not designed to be faint hearted and comfy like the m240i. Im picking up my M2 at the end of the month and I don’t even know what MPG it does and frankly I don’t care either. It’s an M car. fuel Economy is irreverent, if I wanted fuel economy I’d get a 220D. Having just sold my F22 M240i it says a lot. At least that’s my opinion anyway. Interesting perspective from Both sides I just don’t see the relevance in some of the points that make this M240i superior… We will not even touch on the looks. I genuinely believe this is probably the worst looking BMW have made bar the i3 in a long long time. Very capable however, you can’t take that away from it.

[@CarMadDad]

Each to their own Adam I’m in your boat - I don’t pay attention or care about running costs (lucky me) but not everyone is in the same boat and the comparison is a useful one for those considering both options. Enjoy the M//

[@HTH88]

Completely agree @adamwallace09 The 240 should be compared to its predecessor to learn about comparisons. This is not an M car so it’s like comparing apples with avocados. The M2C will need to be compared to the G87 M2 imo.

[@CarMadDad]

I’ll make sure we get that done as soon as I can get my hands on one!!!

[@markrhoden68]

For me who has no interest in track days this is all id need. Even looking at those 400hp RS3 or CLA45 cars this is a bargin, top spec this car with all the available options its still cheaper than a basic RS3 or CLA45.....BARGIN

[@CarMadDad]

Great point Mark - just to add I would expect the BMW was a far better driving experience in top ☝️ Thank you for the view and thoughts

[@mrjamesmay3548]

Just what I wanted to hear! I think I’ll be ordering once they are back in stock..

[@CarMadDad]

Great to hear chappy - cheers 🥂

[@DontPanicDear]

I think I spotted Pete today 16/08/22 just south of Dorking Surrey. Probably wrong, I could have sworn it was him in the 3 series.

[@CarMadDad]

Night have been the car - but the 3 series is sold 😔

[@DontPanicDear]

@@CarMadDad Ah I see 👍🏻

[@DC5dotty]

Decent review. From what I I have seen it’s a great car if used daily but doesn’t have the wow factor of an M2 :)

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Dotty 👍

[@KandiMan]

This car’s calm and comfortable demeanor during normal driving is deceptive. Put everything on Sport/Sport+ and start pushing it, and you’d be very surprised by how close it is to an M2 Comp. Extremely capable, and a great drive (especially with the B58 soundtrack). It’s really fun. Even the ZF8 works very well.

[@CarMadDad]

Agreed chap 👍

[@mikescott4008]

Getting a 981 Cayman or 997 911 would be a better route I do wonder if you're not seeking a new car / on the PCP wheel of fortune. Maybe a trip to Snows BMW for a look.

[@CarMadDad]

Think they all sound lovely Mike 😊

[@stevecotterill7981]

Just discovered your channel… great content. Epic car.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Steve - appreciated 👍

[@breezeracing8015]

For a daily that does a few track days a year one of these would be great. Excellent base for tuning as well with the xdrive. New M2 is looking like being RWD only.

[@CarMadDad]

I’d be surprised by that certainly seems to be the way it’s going… wonder if an xdrive variant will follow like the M3 🤔

[@breezeracing8015]

@@CarMadDad Yes it might follow later. Would be an absolute weapon if it did. The S58 with xdrive, on the 2 series platform. That would certainly be a thing!

[@CarMadDad]

It might cause an M3 some problems 🤔

[@Joe-qc2fw]

@@breezeracing8015 Do you even understand the point of an M2? It’s designed to be a track car, where AWD is unnecessary and adds weight to a car that can’t afford to be any heavier than it already is.

[@amarkhaliq]

Great video CMD- both you and Pete discuss some excellent points. I currently have an M2 Comp and it is my daily driver, I don't use it on the track and I don't have any future plans to. I am personally not too keen on the looks of the new M240i but having said that the new M2 Comp could have that huge grill at the front like the M3 and M4 Comp 😀. Personally for me if I was to move out of my M2 Comp the new M2 Comp would be the main contender. I can understand why Pete has moved though if the M240i is his daily driver and he does a lot of miles in it - the M2 Comp suspension is on the harsh side. I do less than 5k a year in mine so it's not that much of an issue for me.

[@CarMadDad]

Amat dude thank you so much for the view and thoughts 🙏🏻 Best of luck with a replacement. I’d be minded to hold fire and see what the new M2 is like… that way you can make an informed decision and if it is for the m lite - they will be cheaper by then 😂

[@amarkhaliq]

@@CarMadDad I still have 12 months left on my PCP - I could chop my M2 Comp in now and have positive equity due to the rise in car values but there just isn't another car out there at the moment that beats the M2 Comp without upping the budget significantly!

[@M2atom]

Great review, loving mine👍

[@CarMadDad]

Awesome dude - cheers p

[@M2atom]

@@CarMadDad Where can I find those M tire covers in the back seat?

[@CarMadDad]

I bought mine from BMW directly chap

[@HTH88]

“M2 Competition overly lively” like it’s a bad thing? Seriously? To me this equals fun and I think comparing to a 240i is not something BMW would be thinking is a good idea imo. Much of the discussion was talking about how this handles better over bumps. I love how my M2C is harsh over bumps. That’s what it’s made to do. Probably best to compare the 240i to an Audi or Merc equivalent but definitely not a M2C. Appreciate the review all the same.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Mark

[@PetrolheadTours]

I love the liveliness of the M2, hence saying that if it was an occasional car or used for lots of track use I’d definitely say the M2 was the better option - but for a daily commuter the liveliness can be tiring when you’re not in the mood, and the M240i is so capable it can just swallow up “boring” miles better than the M2 can. Horses for courses, both amazing cars. But I can’t wait to drive the new M2 😁

[@HTH88]

@@PetrolheadTours I hear your comments. Horses for courses as you say. I think it also comes down to the nature of what the manufacturer is aiming in its range. For BMW M models they have to be lively. It’s simple part of its DNA. My suggestion if you want an all rounder would be an RS3. I’m personally not a fan but if comfort is a key motivator then to fault an M car on this factor is like saying not to consider a Ferrari because of the excessive horsepower imo. Cheers.

[@PetrolheadTours]

@@HTH88 I was driving a 599 GTO last weekend. Plenty of horsepower deployed. Aren’t we lucky to have a world full of AMAZING cars to experience? All the best buddy 👍

[@HTH88]

@@PetrolheadTours That’s awesome mate. That GTO is something truly special. I’m sure you relished every second. And definitely- very very fortunate with the variety on offer. Cheers.

[@hassanmourad5052]

Thanks for the informative video I would like to ask about your opinion to get m240 or m440 if I don’t care about rear seats

[@CarMadDad]

M240 for me Hassan - obviously personal preference but I’d prefer the shorter wheelbase 👌

[@CommanderFuchs1]

It sounds better that I’ve expected. Have mine on order in the same color and can’t wait any longer. But the delivery will be hopefully in a few weeks. Is that the European Version with OPF?

[@CarMadDad]

Bet your super excited chap - great choice on colour

[@palefaced1]

I'd be willing to say that with the same tires as an m2, and a tune, this would be just as fast on a track.

[@CarMadDad]

If you say so chap 👌

[@camphabenero]

Awesome review!

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers dude 👍

[@RickTheSpud]

Nice video mate. With way better audio than mine! What you using? Lots of people crying on this one and my video about comparing it to an M2. The trouble is it's very good and very comparable. If you want something special that's a bit more twitchy and worse on fuel, M2, for a mega daily that's fun and just as if not faster in the real world, M240i. 😎👌

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers RTS x

[@M2atom]

Truth Rick👍

[@RickTheSpud]

@@M2atom What you using for audio?

[@M2atom]

@@RickTheSpud just the iPhone 13👍🏻

[@RickTheSpud]

@@M2atom Haha, sorry that was for Dale! 🤦‍♂️

[@slen6293]

Is it always beneficial to have wider tyres? I have the m135i with 225/40/18 tyres. Would there be an improvement with 235/35/19?

[@CarMadDad]

Based on your initial statement at the start of this question… guess so 😂

[@slen6293]

@@CarMadDad sorry really appreciate the time to reply but don’t really understand your answer 😂. What are the benefits of wider tyres out of interest? I just went for the smaller for ride quality but is grip sacrificed?

[@SergeiFedorov77]

Great review! I.m.o it's no doubt a great drivers car but it's looks completely fail it. Mostly because of the rear which is so weird looking only a mom could look at it. The rest of the car is only average looking. It's going to be really interesting seeing the performance of the new M2, however most likely it's visual appearance will also be a great dissappointent 😑

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts T 👍

[@qx4n9e1xp]

I saw the new m240i at a local car meet and I was disappointed to find that they drastically reduced visibility over the old 2 series. The entire point of me getting into bmws was the high roof line, & low belt line, and minimal A & C pillars for max view of what's around me. Not to mention the new 2 series looks like an 11 year old designed it, especially with those giant triangular front vents, and droopy rear tail lights with Volkswagen trunk. I'm sorry to say, despite how brilliant it drives. BMW missed the mark, design-wise.

[@CarMadDad]

Each to their own chappy - cheers for your thoughts

[@qx4n9e1xp]

@@CarMadDad Yep. Thanks for the video. Made for a good listen. With the new M3 & M4 being absolute animals, I'm curious about how Pete will respond to the new M2

[@CarMadDad]

I’m sure he will have an opinion for you chap 👌

[@01pabz]

There nice but the M2 comp is gorgeous

[@CarMadDad]

👍

[@1981hezza]

So whats your verdict mate? M2 comp or m40?

[@CarMadDad]

For me chap if it’s a daily (no track use) the M240i is immensely capable and so much more palatable on long journeys. That being said - I won’t be trading my M2 in any time soon… More sense of occasion and more engagement overall works for me.

[@1981hezza]

👍🏼Does the m2 feel faster? Looking at getting a m2,

[@CarMadDad]

I would say that the M2 has more drama about how it conducts its business in general however I wouldn’t say it “feels faster” no. They are BOTH very capable cars on the road - if anything I would guess the M240i is quicker A to B where as the M2 would outperform on track as no doubt BMW intended 👍

[@Mac_F87]

I would be the same. I’ve came from a long line of AWD cars so it would have to be something a lot more special to pry me away from the M2 at the minute. Crazy how the M240 is AWD but by all accounts the M2 will be RWD only.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts chappy 👍

[@adanvision7295]

swaps the Individual M340i for an electric car & swaps the M2 comp for an M240i… Pete, you okay?🙃

[@CarMadDad]

A wise man 🧐

[@saltamonte777]

Great but it’s very expensive at 45K+ for such a small package.

[@CarMadDad]

Worth every penny imho x

[@omegalopez71]

Can you add a Twin turbocharger on the M240l?

[@CarMadDad]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gavinsloma]

I’ll save you guys sometime, if you have a gray hairs them 240 is more comfortable. If you don’t have any gray in your beard, you’ll have more fun with the M2 because it’s more effort which is exactly why if you have gray in your hair, you don’t want it.

[@CarMadDad]

Noted 📝

[@DjNikGnashers]

The M2C is a faster and more 'special' car to drive, and without a doubt a LOT better looking. But, the M240i is easier to live with and the better daily driver. I'd be happy with either.

[@CarMadDad]

Agreed ☝️

[@MadelnMachines]

Doesn't being so refined and lacking drama make it a boring drive? Seems like a great car but I really dislike how it looks much more than the controversial current m3 design.

[@CarMadDad]

I think the car can be subtle and easy to drive - but if you turn it into the right modes it definitely isn’t boring! 😂

[@ianmcwilliams6453]

I agree with both of you - if it were my money I'd still keep/wait for the M version. Yes it's super capable but if I bought one now, when the M version comes out I'd wish I would've waited.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts Ian - top man 👍

[@derekporter66]

@@CarMadDad any idea on pricing of the new m2?

[@stevehs4287]

@@derekporter66 There is a 36% basic starting price difference between the M440i and the M4. Using this as a (very) rough estimate that would put the M2 at £62k ish mark for the basic car, then add options.

[@CarMadDad]

What he said 👇

[@CarMadDad]

Could be a steal 🤔

[@mgnoodle2589]

Does the tech pack come with adaptive cruise control? My March 2022 model didn’t

[@CarMadDad]

Not sure chap - might be worth a Google!

[@Doctor_Martain]

The newer 2 series weighs more than my F36 (4 Series)....BMW’s should be light and nimble, these G bodies are a bit bulky and heavy for me but to each their own.

[@CarMadDad]

Horses for courses Not many cars getting lighter these days 🤔

[@vicjones3992]

But he's gone back to an M2 now - despite his better judgement

[@CarMadDad]

Has he???

[@DontPanicDear]

I might be back in a babyBMW again soon 😀

[@CarMadDad]

👍

[@samuelreid603]

2 more months... im be in mine 😈😈😎😎

[@CarMadDad]

Happy days dude 👍

[@samuelreid603]

@@CarMadDad thanks 👍🏾👍🏾😎

[@DontPanicDear]

Pete is not “Verysideways” in this car then 🤓

[@CarMadDad]

Could t possibly comment 😛

[@marlborom2c829]

Sold the M2 and lost my sub. Good luck mate.

[@CarMadDad]

👍

[@marlborom2c829]

I'm re subbing. I respect your video and Id like to see more of your opinion. I over reacted when I lost an M2C brother. 🤷‍♂️

[@qna95B]

the real M was the OG

[@CarMadDad]

If you say so ☝️

[@stevenfoleyuk9404]

The new M240i looks boring and does not grab my attention . Im sure it drives great , it cant be that hard to design a car the looks good . M2 Comp has the sex appeal .

[@CarMadDad]

Each to their own Steven (all though it would appear the majority would agree

[@sam997TT]

The new design of the new serie 2 is so outdated. It’s look like an Chinese car.

[@CarMadDad]

Each to their own dude

[@sam997TT]

@@CarMadDad I just hope the new M2 will be less orientated for the asian market.

[@CarMadDad]

That makes two of us dude 🤞

[@chencokendas8385]

Every portion of the new m240i just looks wrong! Really quite an awful looking thing 🤢

[@CarMadDad]

Each to their own buddy - I happen to like the proportions - defo looks better in the flesh

[@TooBizarreJulian]

whoever prefers the new gen has absolutely no taste

[@CarMadDad]

Subjective 🤔

[@TooBizarreJulian]

@@CarMadDad it transcends subjectivity, from a design pov, that thing is ugly

[@CarMadDad]

If you say so 😂

[@nearlyretired7005]

Handling wise, not a great deal of difference? One is rwd and the other is 4 four wheel drive! The handling dynamics are totally different. He talks rubbish.Perhaps he should have driving lessons from Chris Harris.

[@CarMadDad]

You my pedigree chum need to address your manner and tone. If you Google “car handling” you’ll read that it defines “Automobile handling and vehicle handling are descriptions of the way a wheeled vehicle responds and reacts to the inputs of a driver” The way Pete drives a car is by far in a way better than 99% of those out there (including your fine self in sure) and so you can rest assured - his description is apt 👌 Good luck out there 😉

[@nearlyretired7005]

@@CarMadDad You are right I can be abrasive,point taken! Happy driving..but I have owned and driven rwd cars and front wheel drive and four wheel drive cars,and mid engined cars.So I am far removed from your average motorist,and have competed in competive motorsport. The driver inputs and driver dynamics are totally different in all these cars and I don't need to refer to reference books or Google to know about car handling.I have 40 yours of practical experience! Rear wheel drive inputput compared to four wheel drive imput is totally different.The dynamics of an M2 compared to a four wheel drive BMW is totally different,they are incomparable. I have sat next to profession drivers and learn from them.All these cars react differently to throttle input. Happy motoring,and have fun. PS. BMW drivers aren't noted for their driving abilities!

[@CarMadDad]

That was a far better effort 😂 Points well made 👍

[@nearlyretired7005]

@@CarMadDad Thanks. I have an M2 and Honda engined S1 Exige.Both are a joy to drive. Enjoy your car,have fun.

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like quite the garage chappy Enjoy 👍 👌