Peugeot e-5008 1000 km challenge

[@andreasbramftl1106]

1000km challenge for normal cars: "What's the time?". For Stellantis cars: "Did we make it?"

[@MaurizioLattuada]

“Search a charger” (when car is plugged in), “turn off the vehicle”… This is legacy at its best

[@CareaboutYou-u9k]

When Bjorn does the facepalm and says its no good. you know it will be good. popcorn time.

[@puppet-head]

Turn off and move away for 15mins, if that doesnt work pull the 12v. Every peugeot owner knows this routine😂😂😂😂😂

[@jjonkie]

Renault also..

[@colinrobinson7869]

Or just fix the bug you hopeless garlic crouching.... no sorry about that but it's a software issue just fix it and do a over the air update maybe.

[@londonwestman1]

Or just don't buy Stelantis? Seems simple enough.

[@tadasvarnelis6991]

Or just start-stop 5times and fault will be reseted.

[@tadasvarnelis6991]

This isn't German or anything like that, so you can go to the service center with the smallest error code.

[@icemankimi6852]

Phew... Pretty sobering. I hope and assume that this frequency of errors was an exception due to some problems. I have been driving the Peugeot e-208 since 2021 and the new E-208 since June 2024. I drove almost 8000 km through Germany, Norway and France without any significant problems with the new E-208. The software also works reasonably smoothly. I was able to observe very good efficiency and charging performance considering the fact that this is a small car with a 51 kWh battery. All charging processes worked without problems. And it's not even an STLA platform, just the eCMP platform. I can absolutely understand the many negative comments after this video, but as a contrast I would like to make a positive comment based on my experience with the E-208 (facelift).

[@tinestrlekar7547]

These objective tests are so refreshing; the most reliable info about EV in my opinion.

[@mrbacalhau01]

If someone has an accident the black box of the car will state that no seat belt was in use and the insurance company will not pay any compensation , that is a big deal

[@gilletphilippe4473]

After driving a ev for the past 8 years i will keep my leaf😮 never bugged and never brocke down.

[@alpertekniker6073]

Same here. Only issue is the battery SoH.

[@dscotia]

Ah! My corsa kept having faults, random faults, turned off and restarted all faults cleared but then the doors wouldn't lock... Well they would lock but then immediately unlocked then locked, then unlocked to such a manic level I had to open the door. All this turned out to be the positive connector on the battery wasn't bedded tight enough. Once cleaned and refitted it hasn't done any mad SheeeetT 🤗

[@pablosquared4868]

What a piece of crap. Back to the drawing board, Mr Stelantis.

[@EloiRodrigues-z3e]

Solution for french car electric problems: - ICE or Electric - Stop the car - Get out of the car - Close the car - Drink a "coffee expresso" for 5minuts - Come back to the car...and you're good to go ... until some other random day 😅🤞💪

[@theo7950]

Sell the car!!

[@bjornnyland]

What about eating a baguette 🥖?

[@theo7950]

@@bjornnyland only if it’s soft and sliced

[@sunseeker-yb5qt]

Kind of character😄👍

[@robertrool8108]

It is Peugeot character. They could remove the issues but otherwise owners would be too bores then. 😅 Also coffee salea would drop.

[@RicoZed]

Stellantis is in the process of paying back all their economies of scale, having the software developed in Morocco and India, then unifying it across all the Group's brands. The best choice for generating bugs at a time when the Group's image is at its lowest ebb due to ICE engine failures.

[@VektorJ]

Peugeot sucks so hard, this vide is a huge proof

[@LarsKarlander]

"Electric traction system fault: Repair needed" seems to be a favourite Stellantis error, had the same in my Corsa electric. 3 different shops tried but could not get rid of the errors. I do not have the car any longer...

[@bjornvermeire]

Er is een kleine battetij die gebruikt wordt voor de stuurelectronica. Als de spanning te laag is / batterij niet goed functioneert moet gewoon die kleine batterij vervangen worden. Kan gebeuren. Heeft niets met de mechaniek of elektronica van de wagen te maken. Gewoon pech. Garagist die nog niet gewoon is aan elektrische systemen, weten gewoon niet hoe ze dit simpel probleem moeten oplossen. Is vergelijkbaar met de battetij in de sleutel😅

[@richardjohnstone3920]

I feel your pain, I have a vivaro electric that keeps throwing fault code’s,shutting down and locking itself in park . My dad and myself have come to call it the boomerang cause it keeps going back to the dealership on a tow truck 😂!

[@lbgstzockt8493]

@@bjornvermeireHilarious that the biggest car manufacturer in the world didn’t find a way to charge the 12V battery from the main battery

[@lezzeti]

At least they're sticking with their traditional French roots..

[@Fincodr]

@@lezzeti Yeah.. Electricity and French don't go together.. I wouldn't want to try to drive these cars to shallow water puddles 🤣

[@runewinsevik8471]

I was considering a 5008 - before this video.

[@ISuperTed]

Was Isabella’s first word “Sheeeeeeet!” 😂😂

[@Roban554]

Probably not

[@skorpion1298]

I think it was Spekkerespekkerespekkeröd

[@anthonylangton3664]

I wouldn't say the problems are french it's Stelantis. I have been driving a new Renault for a few weeks and the Google system in the Car is a pleasant change from some of the rubbish out there.

[@drevald]

Super impressed with Stellantis software 🫠 cutting edge 😂

[@MikeDeeee]

There should also be a version with a bigger battery (98 kWh or so), which should improve the time quite a bit. The software issues are a problem though. Maybe wait a bit until they are fixed before buying.

[@rmkkkk]

Its not out yet, will come later

[@The_Observer72]

Sure, just bring another $15.000 to the table.

[@MikeDeeee]

@@rmkkkk it is available in the configurator in Germany. Not sure about delivery times, haven't looked much into this car yet.

[@Chickenbreadlp]

It's Stellantis. Their software has always been super buggy. Heck, my 2009 Peugeot with no satnav or color screen also had random problems sometimes. The fix is always the same: Turn the car off, go away for an hour or two, done. Tho sometimes the issue only clears when disconnecting or replacing the 12V battery...

[@hatemrivadulla9444]

Had a 2020 e-2008. Same sheeeet.

[@davidz1264]

14:00 Wtf?!? It‘s 2024 and they have still the connection problems from 2019 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@blabla-sv4pm]

So true. I feel Stellantis is only going down and down.

[@iambenmitchell]

@@blabla-sv4pmstart engine button and “B” mode as well 🤦‍♂️

[@AnastasTarpanov]

If you're in a bad mood just watch Bjorn's video, this one is epic! Oh no french cars - kaput, kaput! Actually with saying that I really like the new Renault Scenic E-Tech and I wish I could afford it to buy as a family car (I'm with two girls).

[@EV_OBD]

Renault Scenic EV after 1000 km refused to DC-charge, but did 1000 km without issues.

[@FGGiskard]

I mean everybody in the comments just assuming that this is a massive problem affecting every car. People you just don’t know. Still Bjorn thanks for the test as always, 10:35 seems good although something in the 10:00 or 10:10 would have been ideal for future proofing

[@jandmath]

Yeah, people swarming like moths to light with their anecdotes about the french car the friend of an uncle once had. #echochamber

[@danielmikolajetz439]

Wieso spricht du so gut deutsch? Sounds good!! alwaays nice Videos!!! Danke

[@kattenfrederik618]

My neighbor has had this same car for two months. He has sooo many weird bugs. More than once, the car started flashing hazard lights at night, with no way to turn it off. Then the boot wouldn't latch, he had to tape it shut. Range is also way off from expected. Guess it's Peugeot using early users as beta testers 😮

[@robertrool8108]

Yes and the range is off on other Peugeot EV's as well like the 3008 and 208 ev. Not just like 10% more like 50% of the range. If you barely make 130km on a charge with moderate driving then it's frustrating.

[@mikeb9281]

When I need to change my car, it won't be one of these

[@paulaschofield]

That makes the VW infotainment system look amazing 😀

[@ALCLCFVIS]

I can hear "Carlitos" Tavares saying "EV's don't work"....while being overtaken (for the last decade) by Chinese manufacturers

[@MaurizioLattuada]

If they continue to offer such PoS on the market, no wonders tha Chinese will overtake Stellantis…

[@Nodontbuymeportal]

Nissan Aryia, same deal for issues. I carry a booster box to get into the boot, to unplug the 12 and reboot.

[@c.brinker4387]

Forget this car! Software does not work reliable, the route planner is ridiculous without preconditioning (the winter conditions show the importance of such feature), no car for me. The best was the French charging support by trunk’s plate😂…thanks for your power of endurance💪🏼

[@craigix]

Skip to 22:12 and it sums up this car. Quite incredible.

[@etienned2354]

The e-5008 with the big battery 96,9 net capacity and french made ACC (the 73kWh is made by byd) will have a better charge curve AND will able to preheat battery before fastcharging.

[@atlantiacallaecia3676]

You don't know it's a true PEUGEOT until you don't get a check engine light on and a message to get near the closest repair shop. That's exactly how all BlueHDI and Puretech engined owners get welcomed every morning until the car get full Kaput.

[@karla6999]

Hi Björn, first of all a big shout out for these 1000km challenges and your work in general. I wish you would show the procedure how the cars are started. Like, is it nescesarry to unlock, press a start button and maybe how long does it take the system to be ready to drive. These bugs are a feature in French cars. As an old guy I remember that kind of problems in the first Renaults with digital display and diagnostics, especially when driving in rain weather Thank‘s and all the best! Karl

[@BSquare1989]

These issues would drive me insane...

[@gohumberto]

I wouldn't dream of getting a Stellantis car. The Kia EV-3 is going to raise the bar pretty high I think.

[@rabrabbito3650]

Ok, another one scratched of the list..

[@RENAULTOlivier]

Lot of crappy electric cars...

[@lezzeti]

Seems like a 1000 km trip in a Peugeot is a bit of an adventure.

[@MrCrrispy]

It was (is still for those who have them) no issue at all in a simple 1.6 or 2.0 hdi , with 1 single tank fill. "Ecologists" killed our manufacturers, first with thermal downsizing and those stupid 3 cylinder small engines, now with this...

[@daveamies5031]

My fossil Citroen did things like this when it was new, I took it for warranty claim it turned out to be a faulty brake pedal switch (back in 2008), after they replaced the switch no more problems till now (16 years later), Weird problems like this often turn out to be really simple things to fix. but you'd think they would pay more attention to a press car.

[@quentinlangenaken7851]

OMG…it reminds me of my previous car (DS 7). Soooo comfortable but a technology from 20 years ago! So buggy! Sometimes the screen didn’t even work or remained black. I reported all this to the concession but it was like they didn’t give a sheeeeeet. Now I have a German car and it never bugs. Never.

[@TheMrMarkW]

It’s a Stellantis EV. I know a few family members who bought Vauxhall, Peugeot and Citroen EV’s. They have all had hellish problems - with Onboard Chargers failing, dodgy software, electrical issues. I would never buy a Stellantis EV.

[@Brandofviti]

@@TheMrMarkW I did. Sold it before a year . Bought a renault megane e tech and have been extremely happy for years now

[@nakfan]

What about the Citroën e-C4?

[@Brandofviti]

@@nakfan That was the one I sold.Great comfort but could not make friends with the infotainment.

[@TheMrMarkW]

@@BrandofvitiRenault really do seem to have it together with their new EV’s - the Megane is excellent and I really like the new Renault 5. I ended up buying a Polestar 2 as seeing all the challenges my family had with their Stellantis cars I just went Volvo / Polestar.

[@simplygregsterev]

I had a Jeep Avenger EV rental in the UK and from very low SOC charges I would get the same warnings “service traction HV system” “repair needed reduced output” for 10-15 mins after charging

[@EPicurux]

2024 Stellantis technology barely matching 2021 VW technology. The important in life is to aim low

[@JurreSI]

Had this issue so many times with my e208, during the 3 years and 40.000km I owned it. I had to be towed at least 8 times, coming to a halt at least once a month in the final months. The past year I've owned a Megane E-Tech 60kW and drove 30.000km, only had an issue once.

[@hugowild4707]

Did they place the battery or the engine in the oil ...like the timing belt in the famous thp pétrol engine...

[@cosmicpop]

As an owner of an ID.3 that constantly gets slated in the press for the rubbish infotainment system, this heartens me. At least my ID.3 screen works, albeit a bit slowly. I bet this car won't get criticised as much though.

[@petertraveller6421]

Already waiting for Hyundai ioniq 9 with 110 kWh pack to do this challenge. It will be great.

[@khadirbaaoua4383]

As a french, I wouldn't recommand french EVs. The only ones that don't suck totally are the Megane et the Scenic. Others should not be considered

[@almerian]

I suspect the 12v battery is low (possibly faulty) and causing the warnings and errors. Also, I read somewhere the Stellantis cars don't charge the 12v battery during charging of the traction battery, other than a small trickle charge.

[@derGerhart]

why is peugeot having an id 3 moment? Theyve been selling electric cars for a while now..

[@sunseeker-yb5qt]

Why has Tesla still not fixed phantom brakings after all these years? Sometimes you just wonder.

[@madmikesch2453]

ID3 moment? I have a 2021 ID3 never had any problems.

[@zeventwaalf712]

​@@madmikesch2453pretty common. I have a Born which also did it a few times. Full with errors, lock car for 5 minutes and it's gone. Been a long while now

[@LittleItalyful]

Missing your live streams

[@salacarcgm5888]

In Spain, this is a "CASTAÑA"

[@ontopoftheroof]

EV Clinic's verdict on the Stellantis crap is just devastating. They outright refuse to work on that trash.

[@rahansk8200]

my Tesla also sometimes has bugs on the GPS for recharges... I am 10 minutes from a supercharger, it wanted me to do practically 600 km of detour with 3 recharges to make 160 km round trip...

[@Memosis]

- As we know from existing Stellantis models, sometimes it's fixed by "resetting" the system by unplugging the 12V battery for a few minutes (and in fact sometimes these seemingly random error messages stem from 12V battery being too low) - Bjorn - it seems you are not using the latest Stellantis/PSA profile in Car Scanner. Recently it was updated and now it shows many more values (including voltage of individual modules, stator temperature etc.).

[@Memosis]

Or maybe you are :) I see stator and min/max cell voltages on your dashboard as well, it just looks a little different compared to default dash I see on Citroen

[@Elaba_]

I will never forget the day when, during my commute, I saw 3 Peugeots break down on the hard shoulder within just a few kilometers of highway.

[@RENAULTOlivier]

More errors than an MG

[@carlosorff]

Was the fault found? Could it be the OBD reader?

[@lovethytuber4770]

Excuse my english: Merde! Ça craint! :)

[@petermorgan8376]

The traction fault is really common with Peugeot. Disconnecting 12v battery sometimes clears it.

[@konradandreenordvik9829]

Buggs, a good buggspray should help 🤣🤣🤣

[@hieronymus6691]

After seeing this i am just really happy with my model y. Did a road trip and visit our son in the south of Spain from the Netherlands. Just owning the car 9 days and did 5300km in total in 6 days without any hassle. just effortlessly from supercharger to supercharger across Belgium/France/Spain and visited Gibraltar to. perfect.👌🏻

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Another automotive channel recently did a 1,000mi/1,600km test trip, which included the Peugeot E5008. Using eight public charges along the way, in +1°C and they rarely if ever got 100kW while charging. So 160kW is a rather optimistic hype.

[@dherrendoerfer]

Your car service subscription has expired - report to a service station immediately !

[@lookoutleo]

That's nuts, you live in a parallel universe to me with my leaf 19kwh . Maybe the car is going nuts because there's dirt on the sensors ?

[@igor6270]

For me, my citroen turned on the yellow key for service at 20,000 km without any error and that I have to go to the service. I look in the instructions, service is mandatory at 25,000 km, and at 20,000 km, diesels must come to change the adblue fluid. So, on an electric car, the light to change the adblue fluid comes on.. eh stellantis :)

[@oliworld3887]

French technology! They have a build in charging helper 😚😂🤣😂🤣 The errors popping up is some typical thing I know from gasoline driven PSA cars. Lots of sensors with questionable reliability.

[@visionmodernclassics3062]

Stelantis Performance at is best ❤

[@Xavi7192]

Imagine all the brands and models with the same awfully quality/experience... European car industry (and French especially) was resting too long... It's now over.

[@Maxime-ht6lx]

*Stellantis

[@minicirco]

Just genius: no charging curve needed, power flows straight into the tank 😅 14:00

[@nickbirch2123]

I bought an EV9 to replace my diesel 5008. I’m glad I didn’t hang on for the e-5008

[@Nomen_Nescio_X]

French cars are maintaining their tradition.

[@whitedog4392]

It wouldn’t be Frennch then

[@Brandofviti]

Well.. Renault does pretty good nowadays though. Megane was a contender to car of the year in Europe. Scenic got to be the car of the year. And now their renault 5 is on it way.

[@swecreations]

Renault EVs are really good though.

[@blabla-sv4pm]

I think Renault EVs are way more reliable and good design/software.

[@karla6999]

@@swecreations Whenever I get into our second car, a Zoe 135 it feels a bit like getting into an old ICE car. But for first time BEV drivers, changing over from an ICE car it may be just right.

[@paubrosa]

Please when have the kia ev3??

[@EJFJ-Corporation]

You succeeded doing 1000km in a 5008? This is already a success! ;-) Hopefully, you did not compare it with the Xpeng G9... 😀

[@carlomorischi3435]

Wow. Never buy a Stellantis car. With products like this they deserve to fail.

[@franckfourreau8712]

La honte ! J'aimerais savoir ce que vous a répondu le concessionnaire Peugeot au retour du véhicule !

[@zachlafond2652]

Those noises would drive me insane.

[@mike06thenorth25]

The cars from Stellantis ( Peugeot,DS,...) are unreliable and full of bugs 🥵

[@timoliver8940]

And Stellantis wonders why nobody buys their EV’s…………….. even my previous generation Mini Cooper S E had miles better software and that was a 2019 version of the BMW software in 2021.

[@markanthonymcnally5272]

I'm sticking with my Tesla!

[@karla6999]

definately!

[@Cosmycal]

I'm sticking to my reliable Ariya, both in hardware and software, no failures so far in 2 years.

[@tallaferro75]

Hi Bjorn, could you confirm with Peugeot whether all the issues you experienced were due to design flaws or if the unit you tested was faulty?

[@pepino1083]

After the scandal of puretech, the scandal of DV5, here is the scandal of electric Stellantis. The Titanic

[@MrCrrispy]

Don't forget adBlue :)

[@MikkoRantalainen]

14:45 It appears that when you did the facepalm here, you didn't yet know how accurate it would be for the rest of the ride! Considering that the car fixed itself in warm carage suggests that the issue is broken sealing somewhere and water gets into wrong place and possibly froze.

[@Marco-ce8kr]

That handshake fail is a design problem on the car charger?

[@Chickenbreadlp]

Stellantis software buggy as ever 😂

[@michaelridley2864]

The French way to stop charging 😂😂😂😂 (26 mins in). Shockingly poor design. Great review as ever.

[@sergey_kalinin]

Stellantis makes everything for people to hate EVs.

[@MI-Tech]

Wow watching this experience has made me nauseous 😩 really a lover of this brand and the impeccable design and interior of the last few years. But seeing this makes me want to scrape it of my list. Does anyone have a similar experience with the charging at fast chargers? The issue showcased here to me is definitely a deal breaker ❌. Such a waste of such a beautiful car 😢💔 if this is how it is.

[@harared831]

Thats Peugeot life. Had a Peugeot 508 only for a year. Garbage quality.

[@_kj2]

Stellantis quality. Yeah.. I expect they will go bankrupt within the next years if they don't step up.

[@cos_marc]

Soooo many design issues... I don't get why most cars have these super stupid design flaws and they decide to release it like this.

[@cms1104]

Solution for any Stellantis car: Sell car and get something else(i.e MEB, Tesla,Kia,Hyumdai)....This is unacceptable by Stellantis.

[@mullechef]

Hej Bjørn, laver du en anmeldelse af KIA EV3, jeg er meget spændt på at høre din mening omkring den.

[@The_Observer72]

Way expensive too.

[@ianemery2925]

Most people only ever buy ONE French car; used ones are even LESS reliable.

[@achtungpolizei7614]

Even not beta status of the CarOS

[@ISuperTed]

I’ve had this fault 4 times now on my Peugeot, wouldn’t even start. It did reset after 30 minutes twice, but the other times had to call-out breakdown cover as wouldn’t start. The RAC man showed me how to reset the 12V battery, so I can probably self-repair now but it’s incredibly annoying. Also says disconnect the charging cable when I’m miles away! Dealer had it in under warranty and took 3 weeks to say it was fixed, then broke down a week later. My wife has lost confidence in using the car for work and won’t drive it on days she has to get back home quickly. Have to keep it for another 9 months on lease, I won’t be getting another Stellantis EV.

[@sverreraddum456]

hi Björn, in Sweden its not legal to pass on right side if the speed limit on the road is over 70 km/h..... ;-)

[@rmkkkk]

11:57 they're nisse, why do you care do they like it or not. They decide to camp in the lane, let them face consequences. I think there's no reason to not flash them.