In this video, I go over which items from t4 content you should prioritize for your rogue in tbc classic. Page shown: tbc.classicwow... Phase 1 Bis: • TBC Phase 1 Rogue Gear... / zatar_wow / zatar_wow
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@blacksky7553 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a channel as dedicated as yours for warriors . Rogue mains are so lucky you exist.
@Kirbstompd3 жыл бұрын
Uh, warriors have fight club. Literally the best resource for any class
@TonyTheTerrible3 жыл бұрын
remember when 4chan put their collective power into finding shia lebouf's flag? thats the warrior discord for finding out how to do the most dmg
@joelbeaulieu18673 жыл бұрын
Discord?
@amanahlol90003 жыл бұрын
i read this comment and then went to his stream, hes playing a warrior lmao
@TheHicugaya3 жыл бұрын
Except he speaks nonsense sometimes, but mistakes will make him improve. Good job, bud, keep it up!
@AntinKalliMason3 жыл бұрын
Zatar you’re the man! I really appreciate all your gearing guides and bis item guides! Talk about saving time and taking a lot of the fear of the unknown out of TBC raiding. I share you’re channel with all my rogue friends! Amazed you don’t have 100k+ subs! Your content is quality stuff! Cheers bro!
@murchin3 жыл бұрын
pretty much bout to start raiding hit 70 and i started playing a month ago . You def put a lot of effort in your vids and i appreciate it.
@pedibibak75183 жыл бұрын
Ty for all you're doing for the rogue player. You are the real best in slot👌
@aquaticpears31833 жыл бұрын
Got my edgewalker longboots last night. A very nice warrior won the roll but gave them to me.
@merwen332 жыл бұрын
All the " bad " gear that you stated are actually the pieces that should provide you with stamina when you enter P1 raids and HM, some boss have an amount of HP that is required you cannot do magtheridon with green items like the shit you showed you'll get one shotted at the 30% HP phase for exemple
@MelonadeFX3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff Zatar, super informative. for a newbie at TBC it'd be good to see what raids/crafting ways I'm able to get these items, So I'd know how to correctly prepare and what raids/bosses/proffession to prioritize if I can only get a few per week. I think with nice Visuals on these spreadsheet/lists you'd have the best rogue gearing content on this platform.
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
Everything in this list was from raids in tier 4, meaning the raids karazhan, gruul's lair, and Magtheridon's lair. In the videos I always link to a page listing out all the items. All of those items are linked to wowhead, so if you want more information on a particular item you can just click it.
@politikz81283 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw DST in the thumbnail I laughed out loud cause there’s like 50 other fotm hunters rolling against you for it. Good luck
@mrwhite.greenson85033 жыл бұрын
Hey zatar! I hope TBC is treating u well :) I have a quick question about weps. My first kara run i got my hands on both fools bane and malchezaar from prince. Currently aiming for spitblade ofc, but what should i use during the time i wait for sword? Got latros in OH atm, dagger feels pretty stronk
@MrNotshowingmyname3 жыл бұрын
Wish there was a channel like yours but for warriors. Really enjoyed your content as I made a rogue late in classic, but will be maining warr in TBC.
@coolclips1013 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Thanks!
@johnt8363 жыл бұрын
Hey Zatar, what spreadsheets do you recommend for simulating dps? BiS lists such as this are important and useful, but there's still intermediate upgrades between vanilla classic raid BiS and TBC classic raid BiS. I downloaded the Simonize spreadsheet but it doesn't have some of the convenient features I liked out of the Garcia spreadsheet in Vanilla classic. Are there any other good TBC DPS/gear spreadsheets out there?
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
Simon is the best right now
@ingsve3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the caveat for Romulus Poison Vial will matter in most cases at all. Back in the day I found myself gemming for hit all the time pretty much so hitting the hitcap without having used any hitgems will be rare if it ever happens.
@jebus7x73 жыл бұрын
Do we know if they have the DR implemented into haste for classic though? It runs down the value of dst a bit but if we dont you can stack pure haste and break the gcd
@jarrisbrutalikzpurcell22482 жыл бұрын
awesome video!
@itssonice0013 жыл бұрын
would it be worth replacing THC with Malchazeen for the OH while you get a latro's ?
@FearsomeCreed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the detailed videos! They have been super helpful. Have you talked about Aldor vs Scryer in any of your videos? I'm not sure which to pick, mostly planning on pvping.
@tetra30003 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I enjoyed these series back in classic
@davidmarik95373 жыл бұрын
great content, subbed.
@swanky1473 жыл бұрын
Unless I'm mistaken, agility gems are nearly identically-good as hit gems in T4 gearing levels - so overcapping with Romulo's isn't a meaningful issue as you can just as happily swap some yellows for reds. I'm also not expecting it to be super expensive given how much ore will be in circulation from rogue/druid alts solo-mining dungeons. If I have any reason to think DST will be going to other classes/players first, I'll be looking to pick up Romulo's pretty highly. Fortunately the only real competition will probably be prot warriors.
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
There is a decent difference between 8 hit gems and 8 agi gem, depending on your exact gear. Yellow gems would be 15-25% stronger
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
as an example, romulo's is less than 1 dps less than bloodlust brooch in the Simon spreadsheet, but you end up losing ~ 2 dps per gem you have to swap, and with 35 hit rating added, that would result in an additional 8 dps lost.
@swanky1473 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar Fair enough, sounds like my premise about gem value was incorrect. Presumably Romulo's is at least 8 dps better than 3rd-bis (for those who don't have access to DST yet) but I understand the category you placed it in, now.
@thenumberpurple27553 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar you'll never run into having to re gem this early
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
@numberpurple if you gem all hit, even following socket bonuses, in tier 4 bis you will have more than the hit cap.
@billyshelton89673 жыл бұрын
great video
@unknownstormtrooper3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have just started folloeing your videos since I am playing to play a rogur in Tbc, never played tbc before. My issue is that I am planning on doing bith pve and pvp but i am confused since i need two different specs. Is there a middle one that cand do good in both situations ?
@Kelzb1tches3 жыл бұрын
not really. just pay the 50g to respec when you need to, gold isn't that hard to get in TBC
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
@stoian Gabriel people are pretty intense these days in classic, and most people who raid will expect you to be in a full raid spec, and that is usually bad for PVP. Mutilate is probably the best spec so you can pick that would be decent in both PVP and PVE.
@sebbeeriksson71423 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@justblais213 жыл бұрын
chill that's a hunter trinket
@ewaldonsky3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! One question: For off hands Is latro's better than Malchazeen (dagger from Karazan)? Main hand: Vindicator's Brand
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
Latros is better
@Lrn2hmp3 жыл бұрын
Lucky to have you
@Anthony-su9qm3 жыл бұрын
hairs lookin good bro
@easycake32513 жыл бұрын
Im sure the Hunters will care regarding the trinket xD
@AllAboutKnives13 жыл бұрын
Would Romulus poison vial be good to get if you plan on gemming ur gear for pvp but still raiding with a guild ?
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
In that situation it would increase your damage about as much as bloodless brooch on average.
@TheBLahhQ3 жыл бұрын
Nice video the only problem here is rogues are not brought into raids in tbc including my t3 rogue aswell ripperonis 🤣
@staatsnoobNr13 жыл бұрын
thanks for the videos mayne. I do not really get why some of these items are supposedly better/worse tho ._.
@Momentine3 жыл бұрын
Once I craft the Dragonmaw mace, am I to play mace spec over sword spec?
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
You actually will put points into both mace spec and swords spec. 5/5 each.
@Momentine3 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar do you have a build you could link?
@koivu1593 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Zatar, will you be doing an equivalent video but for pvp?
@luizperez33573 жыл бұрын
for pvp you'd want skulker's greaves, the phase1 bis rings and if you don't have dragonmaw, spiteblade. perhaps gronn-stitched girdle if you want to gear very offensively for something like 5s or 2s as SPR. getting the cloak off aran or mag is also decent but you can use the cloak from badges of justice and not lose too much.
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
@wealthysaver, check my PVP gearing guide for now, might do a priority video in the future.
@murchin3 жыл бұрын
i would definitely want to see that
@suboptimal57983 жыл бұрын
thoughts on the Figurine - Shadowsong Panther?
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
Good for pvp, meh for pve
@yvngsavage82493 жыл бұрын
do u gem atk power or agility? does it vary among phases?
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
Hit til cap (on 72 enemies) in pve, then agi. AP in pvp.
@yvngsavage82493 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar whats the expertise and hit cap rating at?
@melonytoni90163 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how blinkstrike is supposed to be as good as spiteblade. it has way less dps and worse stats
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
The proc is really good
@melonytoni90163 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar Would you recommend buying it for like 2-3 k from someone? Have just finished my kara attunement, currently have edge of the cosmos in main hand.
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
It depends on how much gold you have, what other things you want to buy, and whether or not your current raiding. I have heard multiple people say it's a very fun weapon though due to the high proc chance.
@melonytoni90163 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar ok ty for the input
@melonytoni90163 жыл бұрын
@@Zatar Now I just got Spiteblade and sold my Blink. Now I read everywhere that for pve Spiteblade is inferior to Blinkstrike.
@insight49703 жыл бұрын
orc rogue vs undead? which is better for pve and pvp
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
Orc is better in PVE, Undead is better in PvP
@Madnessofdwing3 жыл бұрын
Romulos poison vial is pretty shit. Proccs very rarely
@omgersh3 жыл бұрын
What kind of hit rating do you want? 250?
@achromatic86373 жыл бұрын
300
@Ayquefrio4133 жыл бұрын
If any guilds are giving DST to rogues they are fucking trolling. That item is rare as fuck and rogues are useless until glaives. Good video though :)
@seanbailey85453 жыл бұрын
I mean if Thier hunters have it. It's not a bad place to put a DST.
@seanbailey85453 жыл бұрын
Dude is Memeing, DST is obv BiS for mages.
@aloneabroad70643 жыл бұрын
Hunters are the ones who disliked
@iam1ee3 жыл бұрын
Stack up on hit then once BT come out do armor pen.
@twistedoasis3 жыл бұрын
MvP nah MvI's
@nursejoy693 жыл бұрын
Hqrdcore guilds dont take rogues til sunwell tho so.... better reroll ranged/caster
@OkayyyIGetIt3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, these BIS videos are why classic will never be fun. You all ruin the game.
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
I think when you know what is bis, it can make getting weaker items Less Fun, but I think it makes big items feel even more rewarding to get. Achieving full best in slot for a phase is a great feeling.
@seanbailey85453 жыл бұрын
Let's be real, most ppl who follow BiS lists..will most probably never complete Thier BiS.
@Zatar3 жыл бұрын
@sean which is why it's especially fun when you do complete it.
@murchin3 жыл бұрын
I'm a quick example, i was gearing myself up by pure knowledge and came across this and found out i was doing the right thing so i decided to keep following the BiS and i'm only 2 items away to be full BiS. It's almost like setting up a goal you'll obviously get some reward from it.