Phase 2 Preparation & Expectations! | Season of Discovery | WoW Classic

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Phase 2 of Season of Discovery has been confirmed to release on February 8th! That means its time to start putting in some preparation for this next big phase of the season.
I also go over a number of things that I think we can expect to happen next phase, as well as giving you some ideas of what you can do now, or plan to do in the future in Season of Discovery too.
Either way these are my Phase 2 Preparation & Expectations! | Season of Discovery | WoW Classic
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[@WillEmmo]

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[@kohlerk30]

Get me CRED

[@Giggles4692]

Phase 2 too soon. Only 10% at max level Even if we don’t count the accounts that quit the game. 10% at max level still seems far too low. We need 4 or 6 months in each phase, not just about 2 months. What percentage of accounts have one character max level of 25, that actually played at least twice a week? Is it just 15%? Rushing through each phase, by making them only 2 months is too fast based on the player stats. From the stats we can see we are: making casual players not able to keep up in this casual mode. SOD is amazing for new players, so let’s make each phase 4 or 6 months to not gatekeep casual players from the casual mode of SOD. Preferably 6 months per phase while adding new simple things half way through each phase to help keep phase feeling fresh. Preferably 6 months, but least compromise on 3-4 months for each phase due to the evidence. P.S. Can we please enjoy our good gear for some months, instead of rushing to next phase right when many of us get our good gear? dotesports .com /wow/news/a-strikingly-low-number-of-wow-sod-players-have-actually-reached-level-25

[@furyon9816]

hellofresh is shit. Stop promoting that bullshit company.

[@SmoothjazGamingTV]

I can just tell STV in phase 2 is going to be rage-inducing carnage and I look forward to it.

[@2Balendin2]

It'll be a mess. They can't even get layers right.

[@Travybear1989]

Sounds like it would be interesting but I just can't bring myself to support Activision Blizzard these days. It's just too late for them to redeem themselves at this point. Supporting censorship, showcasing monstrous amounts of greed, and not listening to players/assuming you know what they want instead of catering to them for many years is not how you run a business. Imagine if I had a Mexican restaurant and refused to serve burritos because I personally didn't like them so I only sold tacos and despite people not caring for my places lack of options I blamed my declining sales on their stupidity instead of my own ignorance. That is not how you run a successful business. I get that they have the IP value but there is a reason many private servers have higher numbers of active players than the official ones and it isn't solely due to the paltry $15 a month. The hype around the "Season of Discovery" is there currently but only because retail WoW is a shadow of it's former self and the game is basically a glorified single-player experience at this point where you can nearly roll your head on your keyboard and still manage to hit the level cap.

[@2Balendin2]

@@Travybear1989 but surely that's all the more reason to play SoD? If you think that retail is bad? Since its probably as far away from retail as it can be.

[@alexh2097]

@@Travybear1989 sorry you are wrong retail is not a shadow of its former self it is just not fun and wasnt for the last 3-4 (in my case 6) expansions, SOD however is fun and blizzard actualy communicates with the community and changes stuff . So why not give it a try?

[@Tranewrekk]

Me laughing at you in PVE:

[@BobBoonah1]

people dont need to prep anything. Just enjoy the game. Its the most casual version of wow ever.

[@tainicon4639]

The only thing I think worthy of prepping for is gold for your Mount. I wouldn’t want to hit 40 and not have 100g

[@voldemort008]

@@tainicon4639 Sounds like you only need 50g.

[@tylerblue9691]

I don’t understand why people say it’s casual It’s the opposite I play both, but mostly classic right now, and retail is way more casual. It’s way easier, and you can get to max lvl in a day. Gearing takes way less time than leveling too Meanwhile Classic you’re against the clock. If you don’t keep with the pace of others leveling you’ll miss out on raiding.

[@tainicon4639]

@@tylerblue9691 the end game content difficulty level is trivial compared to retail. Also classic the game is leveling, end game is kinda just there but not why most people play.

[@awayekevin3397]

it's simply the difficulty of the content. Classic is very easy while retail has a very high cognitive load on all endgame content @@tylerblue9691

[@midsummerKNlGHT]

I may as well be a kid again playing Vanilla, I'm having so much fun in SoD.

[@adoseofpain]

Same, its bringing me back to my teens

[@Dualities]

re monetizing work people did 20 years ago... with features stolen from private server... yeah such innovation... with how they treated servers for years... with how they treated swifty or reckfulll. ah

[@Ludydobry]

same here, its quite amazing

[@TheRealJonster]

Only pain I've had during phase 1 was getting to revered with Silverwings, not once, but twice for my alt as well. I know some people have done it a lot, but the Ashenvale event has been truly shit

[@TheRockingChar]

"If phase 2 happens around when I think it will..." someone made this video well in advance didn't they, William?

[@alex-suciu]

I think he meant phase 3. he did mention feb8 somewhere at the start of the video

[@WillEmmo]

Im not so used to news updates happening this often in WoW (had to change a few bits in the video)

[@TheRockingChar]

@@WillEmmo haha no sweat, it's honestly good planning on your part - i'm only teasing ;) If you changed the wording slightly I would have never have noticed.

[@emetanti]

Hasn´t hurt so far to keep some bigger quests ready for turn in.

[@JT-mt6ku]

Actually pretty great point regarding goblin engineering, I’ll make my paladin the sapper bot so I can actually use the fun stuff in gnomish eng on my feral Druid.

[@danf9721]

This was also my biggest takeaway. My main is a gnome warlock, so I'm ready for engineering there, but needing a goblin engineering alt had not occurred to me, so my shadow priest alt will now be doing that.

[@juz882010]

im hearing they adding a lvl 40 2h sword to blacksmithing... not many swords available at that lvl.. its all axes.

[@KingDennisJensen]

Been getting super lucky farming the elite dwarves and them dropping blues selling from 50g - 100g per piece. Also made a "phase 2 bank supplies" alt and literally just funneled him all bunch of white items that may get used in phase 2 like fish oil did in phase 1.

[@robertbarclay1709]

What to share what items you’re hording ?? ❤

[@KingDennisJensen]

@@robertbarclay1709 Literally any white items. Just make an alt and use all the bank space he has for them. You never know :D

[@carlos31389]

Not me vendoring all the whites i get

[@Creepy-Girl]

I hope that we will see plenty new recipes with the coming phases. It would be nice if one profession could craft bows, like Blacksmithing or Leatherworking. And as a Hunter player I hope we will be able to tame new exciting pets with new pet abilities.

[@Anno-gm3yo]

And they stop nerfing hunters

[@blacksabbath2559]

​@@Anno-gm3yoman i play chaman, hunter can t complain believe me.

[@AdhesiveGaming512]

Hunters arent even nerfed theyre where they should be lol

[@morten8586]

Expectations: Every class is op Reality: Physical classes and especially Warrior are op

[@basmong]

PVE only. But in PVP - Priests, Warlocks, Druids are very strong.

[@TheNygros]

​@@basmongWait for Warriors, Rogues and some other underperforming in PvP classes to ger there key abilities in next phase

[@blacksabbath2559]

I play chaman...time for blizzard to wake up and take care of us

[@shyplox]

Wars are top in pve atm but will get 2 shot from a hunter or mage lol

[@KG_Ozi22]

​@@blacksabbath2559wake up? Yall are like the best tanks lol

[@adelvoid1530]

This "phase" idea is pure genius. I'm so hooked by wow sod it's unbelievable.

[@mavis4299]

Same, I’m so freaking excited

[@spygronn]

cant wait for solheims reaction to this video in his video so i can react to him reacting in my video

[@mola4everyourz]

good luck to everyone having fun in SoD.

[@Vimpari]

in SoD mount costs (without pvp rank) 34g and skill 9g (i've checked)

[@NickPlays95]

I’m upset that the pvp event isn’t in arathi. Since AB is our next BG, we should have it there and get rep like ashenvale

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

stv is easy location to get to for both faction

[@BIGMACBURGER]

farming steamwheedle cartel rep south of ratchet, bootybay, everlook, gadgetzan and ratchet rep MIGHT be useful.

[@muscadineman45pritchett82]

Everyone keeps saying seasonal server ..... didn't blizzard confirm that all SoD toons will live on SOMEWHERE??? I swear I remember hearing that in one vid

[@boarderz8275]

They said there is a chance they make a sod era realm depending how it goes!

[@catchinvibes]

I can't explain my hype for Lvl 40 Ele shaman STV shenanigans!

[@jaybeezy4124]

STV is gonna be a pain. But it’s gonna be fun as well.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

you don't have to quest in STV though... we get scarlet monastery next phase, one of the best leveling methods EVER

[@Shiftlinkage101]

So glad they didn't ass up SM so we can dungeon grind easily. Can't wait to leech off of some mage guildies.@@akhsdenlew1861

[@Plasmabeisser]

@@akhsdenlew1861 *boring.

[@HaunaniPao]

hello, what add on are you using to show the quests like that? I like it.

[@zaboomofoo8755]

Its going to be fun and all sure. .. but its such a shame bots, goldbuyers, and gdkps are ruining this game slowly but surely. Ill still enjoy raiding and pvp with my friends and all, but a ton of other fun aspects of this game are dead unfortunately due to bots and bad players

[@qlida4465]

I started playing classic when it released, gave up after seeing tons of mages flyhacking ZG. Came back later on cuase i enjoyed the game.. In WOTLK Classic P1-> P2 Prices increased 10 times over due to DK bots being rampant in botanica. This will be the reality people are facing, yet they do nothing to make sure Blizzard actually does anything. The same issues that were reality in 2019, is happening over again.. nothing has changed and people thinking it has are delusional. I quit after LK HC died the first time, not wasting my life away playing a game where devs care more about profit than fun.

[@TheDarknumen]

Yeh it sucks. I have not tried SOD because i know it Will be Just as awefull as wotlk was. Needing to outgear everything or buy gold to do shit was not fun. I started late in woltk but still got declined for naxx runs Even tho i could join gamma dungeons for example.

[@Ludydobry]

I got an addont to ignore gdkp, gold sellers and other spammers, so i dont even see them. Its the best addon i have tried out in SoD. GDKP spammers ruined my experiance in Era.

[@Bastyyyyyy]

I just play with my guild, i rly dont give a flying fuck about aboutside of raids & pvp fun with my guild/friends. Economy is already rly bad. it only gets WAY worse. and i couldnt care less :)

[@NOTHiNG2CBRA]

@@TheDarknumenSoD is awesome & nothing like wrath classic

[@IMForeman27]

I'm in the middle of a couple things, but I'll check this out in a minute.

[@zaboomofoo8755]

Lol this comment , so wholesome, you just don't get it , and I love it 😂

[@jerry809]

Whew for a minute there I thought we were going straight to P3!

[@DaFunkz]

Tbh I think they should increase mount cost back to vanilla considering how much gold questing gives - we need the gold sink.

[@flashrogue4376]

Dammit! Thats the week AFTER my vacation FFS

[@HWRogue]

I sure hope they allow us to get tribal leather working before lvl 41.

[@rurounigato]

You forgot farm wsg Rep till exalted, at 40 You can get epic bis bracers for all classes, then at 50, and at 60, epic pants too

[@terrodar19]

Wsg to exalted? 21k rep one loss at a time? No thx

[@rurounigato]

@@terrodar19 agree 110%, but epic gear at 40, 50 and 60?.....You can't pass that

[@mathiasdeconinck8101]

Just do the weekly ashenvale quest. Gives 1k rep so will still take 21 weeks to make it till exalted without wsg farm but atleast ull get it eventually

[@zouLworm]

We dont know what lvl 40 brings maybe Gnomeregan has better blue Items then the wsg rewards or the PvP Event has a new faction with better rewards.. I wont spend so much time in wsg

[@Rogus27]

If this was classic+ then I’d consider the grind but for a 12month season I could care less.

[@JBlack2991]

Everything sounds like you’ll need a lot of gold for it .

[@qlida4465]

Enjoy the economy rapant with botters, RMT and insane inflation rates then. Happened in WOTLK too.. Prices will probably reach 1k+ for Phase BiS now.

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

@@qlida4465 we have no such problem on living flame. all the bots have been eradicated and the server is locked, the economy is stable and things are affordable and sellable af. its great. hope they never open it. for example, a fap is about 29-30 silver, a shadow prot pot is about 20 silver or less, and these are the most expensive consumables there is, so i'd say we're blessed. totally worth sitting in the queue on launch day. we had a lot of bots the first 2 weeks, but now they've all been shadowrealmed and are campaigning on the forums for living flame to open so "they can play with their frensss". get fucked.

[@General12th]

Hi Will!

[@akhsdenlew1861]

Just put dual talent spec.. makes the game x100000 more fun and it is also another much needed gold sink. Also, i really hope they nerf engineer and sappers to the ground for next phase..

[@chixbro9628]

its (almost) impossible to be exalted with a main fraction for a diff mount at level 40 cuz u cant repeatable turn in rune cloth

[@Arenumberg]

Ive restarted so many times in SoD at this point, havent even done BFD! Failing at finding a "home" aka a guild, but having fun nonetheless when I do pop on. Hope I stick to Phase 2 a bit harder.

[@Rogus27]

You do not need a guild for BFD I’ve pugged with randoms every lock out and never not got 7/7.

[@Highhookmvp]

​@@Rogus27 Same here, pugging BFD twice a week, super ez 👍🏼 Also, if u dont get into a grp, just look up tacts and lead one yourself, I've done so multiple times with no issues.

[@Arenumberg]

I know, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

[@zeldapwnz]

​@@Rogus27 that would require this baka to even hit max level. But for whatever cringe AF reason. They enjoy wasting their time and being in a state of perpetuity.

[@fredrick1176]

Make a stealth class for stv. Done

[@MarvinMonroe]

I've been slacking. 25 druid, 150 Ench, Herb, Cooking, First aid, fishing but zero raiding, don't have all the runes. Want to roll a mage and I'm thinking Tailor, Alch

[@jochenvos90]

What i'm really concerned about will be the shift in PvP meta if following things wont be adressed: Gnomish Mind Control Cap and Gnomish Deathray, as only Gnomes will be able to craft them (which would actually fit RP ironically, lol). These 2 items are a game changer even at lvl 60 and if they stay in their current state, they're just plain nuts! So either if you want to stay true to RP, they need to be heavily nerfed, as in damage from deathray and stuntime from helmet, or they need to be craftable at 245 (which btw Goblin Rocket Helmet is already), so nobody will get access to them. Otherwise you will see Gnome Rogues camping Flags left and right in AB and WSG and oneshotting everyone in their way with cold blood evisc and deathray.

[@deorwynn3597]

Sounds like you need to reroll gnome bud

[@juz882010]

i could see them giving a horde race the ability to craft them maybe trolls? who knows... they will try to make it fair.

[@GacktSama1992]

who do you think will be like top 3 in pvp in phase two?

[@boarderz8275]

I think it's highly dependent on new runes but I could see meta locks with soul link being an absolute pain in the ass in 1v1s

[@Shilian01]

1) Rogue 2) Warlock 3) Mage

[@onetime1337]

1# warrior with good gear,they become unslowable/unrootable with warbringer and berserker rage to get out of fears(fears are actually #1 counter to warriors atm lol),stuns are really not stopping a warrior since we do burst instead of constant dmg,enjoy windfury sweeping strikes mortal strike cleave charging around entire battlefield. #2 warlock,they will be unkillable and will drainmana everyone,50% cast speed slow from curse of tongues making everyone spam decurse/not able to cast,and dot everyone from 30 yard range,while also having deathcoil,fear and howl of fear. #3 can be anyone really, hunter pubstomp with unccable pet which is going to be even tankier with imp mend pet and spiritbond, rogue unkillable in 1v1 with double blind,double vanish,kidney+cs+new rune with prep,just hope they dont get clos, could even be mage or hpala/disc priest

[@getrekt2335]

Why is no one mentioning buying bank slots? The price increases with levels, it would be insane not to cap them out now

[@sensainarutoable]

so genuine question. i started off playing wow on the re release in 2019, and quite frankly i HATE the leveling in the game but enjoy the endgame a crap ton... ive been avoiding SOD since lvl 25 raiding sounds like ass to me but would 40 be worth investing my time into the game now rather than waiting for the cap to hit 60?

[@zacharyshort384]

I mean if you have the time to blast 1-60 when last phase launches go for it. I'm loving the phases approach since I can't invest hours every single day.

[@sensainarutoable]

@zacharyshort384 I don't have the time but I think classic leveling (specifically questing) sucks so much. And atm with so many people in starter zones getting the quest mob is just that much worse

[@kero1640]

I wouldn't say lvl 25 raiding has been bad at all considering most classes have a more complex rotation than they did at lvl 60 in classic.

[@Plasmabeisser]

@@sensainarutoable just invest in each phase. 1-25 is done in about 24h played ... easy time. 25-40 will be like 2 days of played i guess. so if you want to spend 7-8 days at once when 60 arrives, you are welcome. but now you could just do it prior

[@zeldapwnz]

Nah. You should just stick to retail or whatever game you play currently. Your mind is not ready for it and, quite frankly, probably never will be.

[@Jathiel88]

To be honest, I wouldn’t mind armor class tokens if there’s another set like BFD had because the loot has been terrible. It’ll be even worse with plate at 40.

[@InternetStranger476]

I'm still malding that you can't three piece the bfd set with voidtouched

[@vashamamasha]

You will not be able to learn gnom8sh/goblin engineering as it requires to become an artisian in engineering to start the quest

[@WillEmmo]

The quest should pop up with 200 skill + level 30 despite us not being able to advance to artisan

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

@@WillEmmo what makes you think Blizzard will allow us to specialize in gnomish/goblin engineering? blizzard limited us to 150/150 in phase one and i doubt they're gonna allow engineers to roam free destroying the game with sappers and death rays, forcing everyone to pick it up or get fucked in pvp. my guess is that they will delay our ability to specialize our engineering until phase 3. you'll be able to level it to 225/225 like every other profession sure, but i think they're gonna make a special exception for engineering, and honestly i hope they do because sappers completely trivialize all pve content even at 60!... if this is the case and horde cannot access the best stuff in engi, they will definitely not allow alliance to either.

[@flashrogue4376]

Man, bots be on you fast.

[@keithbrown7485]

So glad I’m on a PVE server lol

[@lolwut31]

So lame, where is the excitement in that? Never having a sense of being in danger and on guard. You should go play hello kitty island adventure.

[@whyso70]

If they do the first ban wave (3 months for bots) and still let the full servers locked, a high number of bots will be gone

[@Decent9669]

pls some nice world drops

[@SaltCitizen]

I was going to go druid but now that i know i cant get wolfs helm idk anymore

[@zeldapwnz]

Go play your steam backlog already.

[@SaltCitizen]

wym @@zeldapwnz

[@spooky_zen]

Is AB gonna be playable? is pvp gonna be playable?

[@Danny_79]

AB should be playable next phase

[@TRaNsFORMTHeFAllen12]

im pretty sure its a lvl 30 BG

[@anthonybarrington2562]

PvP machine broke sorry m9

[@acrophis]

No. It will be premade hell as everyone will want the run speed boots.

[@TRaNsFORMTHeFAllen12]

the fact that people went crazy to get ( prebis) for lvl 25 kinda to much lmao

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

Not really when the items are better than Tier Set items at 60 classic. More odd is you think it was some how difficult to do. Shit was EZ.

[@alexh2097]

farming prebis for me is always the best part of an expansion, and what do you mean crazy? its not even that much at 25 and doesnt take that long.

[@Plasmabeisser]

@@tipsysmichigander6483 go into a level 25 dungeon at level 50 to get it afterwards, if it is really "neccessary"

[@Ludydobry]

So you basically prepare yourself for the big raid by doing dungeons and getting some blue gear, whats so crazy about it ? Half of the fun in WoW is getting the loot you need, then trying it in pve or pvp.

[@ben-64]

honestly, im having so much fun in phase 1 still that I feel like 2 is too soon

[@whateverjustposting]

i wouldnt say too soon necessarily, but i could absolutely keep myself busy for a couple extra weeks. ive only run bfd 6 times across 2 characters at thos point

[@Rogus27]

Not soon enough tbh there’s fuck all left to do

[@tanpen15]

2 characters with bis and 500g and exalted... So bored and ready for next phase

[@ben-64]

@@tanpen15 damn I wish I was cool enough to be bored too

[@Liquidityz]

I’ve ran like 14 times on My main by now, all there is left is to raid log, get sergeant and rep grind, but rep grind is boring lol

[@clout13r]

Still have no idea when to use first aid.... channeled ...

[@fytz]

anyone know what level your alt would need to be to get engi up to 205? would it be level 25?

[@voldemort008]

26

[@psyduck123456789]

I imagine blizz will do something to even out the advantage of the 240 engi scope, so horde can get something on the same level without having to buy it on the neutral AH.

[@jansporteD]

Assuming blizz will do certain logical things often leads to disappointment.

[@cheapcyborg4866]

Probably won’t, horde has access to a lot of gear alliance doesn’t this phase so doubt they will add something like that next phase

[@Rogus27]

They didn’t do shit for the agi helm or the 1h mace from 1kN horde had access to this phase, go to the Neutral Ah and beg mud hutter.

[@neilbecker1140]

they need to figure out the sniper scope schematic. As it stand now (yes people have it in game ty to fishing) only gnomes will be able to craft it. With a 225 skill cap and the recipe being 240 to learn, only gnomes will be able to make them. A solution to this would be drop learn skill level to 225 so both factions can have it or bump the learn level to 245. Outside of SOD this was never an issue due to being able to level skills to 300 at lv 35. Needs to be addressed. Before anyone starts bitching well then make a gnome... I will if I have to and since this is an extremely rare recipe right now be prepared to pas 150G plus per scope... and thats alliance side. imagine the nuetral ah prices these will get to for horde side

[@hurotiz]

Didn’t stop people from getting Humberts helm horde only drop through the neutral ah. Horde will just have to pay the 65g+ for a scope that alliance had to pay for the helm.

[@neilbecker1140]

I figured it out. Rune of professionalism.

[@neilbecker1140]

@@hurotiz scope is bis at 60 unless you are a engineer and can get the bop one. humberts helm is a pre bis option. big dif there

[@neilbecker1140]

@@hurotiz they shouldnt be creating problems with sod especially when it is being brought up before the patch. easy to fix, and isnt even arguable that it is not a problem

[@alexh2097]

its still classic, not everyone has the same things, horde had rend buff and wf in classic and alliance had palys and not so many degens. why do you want everything to be the same everywhere? that would just be retail and that sucks.

[@yosoyhansolo]

As per usual @WillEmmo providing some of the most thoroughly researched Classic WoW content on this platform. Well Done Sir! 👏👏👏

[@ThisIsBUTTON]

Can't wait to see hundreds of Tauren Druid bots grabbing the high end herbs you mentioned.

[@user-od7uc7ll2t]

Didn't they confirm that level cap on professions will be 200?

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

there is no such thing as 200/200. its 225/225. next phase will be 300/300 and then 350/350 in phase 4.

[@trevorrice141]

Are they just leaving the entire raids bleed immunity active?

[@VaioTobl]

Do you know if it is possible for an undead to get exalted with orgrimmar in the coming phase? I Really dont like the undead mounts :( 4:28

[@Holyundine]

I know tribal leatherworking isn’t available at 40 due to the crafts requiring 230 LW. But I believe elemental LW should be available, and then you can use the book in Tanaris to change your profession mastery to Tribal. I’ve tried to research this concept, and from what I know to change your profession mastery, you don’t need to hand in the craftables if you do it through this method. I assume cause the handin quests aren’t repeatable so you could theoretically soft lock your character from a specialisation if they required you to recomplete the quest. Does anyone else know if my theory will or won’t work? I’m stacking materials to relearn LW so I can try it, but it would be nice to get confirmation.

[@iamshawbam1874]

that should work, but theres also reports that they removed needing tribal lw for wolfshead in 1.12

[@Holyundine]

@@iamshawbam1874 huh, looking it up, there are sources saying that you don't need tribal leatherworking to craft the helm. It was changed in TBC but I can't find anything to support it was changed in classic. I guess I'll check when P2 launches, whether I can just learn the recipe from the tribal vendor without specialising. And if not, go through with my plan to swap to tribal leatherworking. I'm hoping it does require the swap because I want to try make a living off selling the helmets in the first couple of weeks where they will be at their highest in value.

[@Kader0s]

From looking into this it seems the alliance quest requires different mats, which are lower LW reqs.

[@bowman1248]

As a veteran of classic I think I like the idea of blizzard minimising the importance of gold by methods they have used in SoD as opposed to legalising the sale of gold as a method of combating bots and illegal RMT. But the existence of GDKPs will always drive up the need and price of gold. To me I really just cbf'd dealing with another "classic" like economy which only got worse as the expansions went on. I think Back in 2004 the crafting systems in place etc allowed for good fun gameplay in terms of managing and mining gold. Today I think I would enjoy playing an MMO which just straight up didn't have a resource that was so heavily necessary and so easily bought and sold with real world money. I only want to play the game, I don't want to pay to win.

[@garymuhr9320]

I'm afraid we'll see appear in phase2 a much more imbalanced game. Anything to discover, everything to tryhard, even if i try hard to discover 🤔 Can't wait arathi bassin tho 😁

[@ryangoodingrg]

Seasonal server?

[@samwisetheg]

Professions will cap at 200 Willie

[@wickeddrac7489]

Till bots are dealt with which it will not, cannot play this game but do enjoy the random wow videos from time to time.

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

You act like bots *can* be dealt with.

[@wickeddrac7489]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower Private servers have done well. Are you saying a multi billion dollar corp can't at least try? Interesting...

[@sparhawk2195]

@@wickeddrac7489 Private servers aren't as profitable as the offical ones. And they surely can fix the bot problems. But it means you lose freedom by either them locking down ways bots can trade and farm, which will affect players as well, or increase warden's intrusivness so it can preform better detection and auto ban bots. Are you willing to accept some lock downs in game or blizzard deeper access into your PC to stop botting?

[@moodfm5673]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollower you act like they definately couldnt easily start perm banning accounts that are fly hacking and clipping into trees and then into sfk. its prob like a third of the sub income for them at this point

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

@@wickeddrac7489 They could deal with it but who wants to deal with a constantly evolving problem that is driven by desperate people?

[@jobozo99]

Gurubashi Arena will be a WARZONE.

[@zwojack7285]

Rogues and Warriors will do even more damage (Warriors can already crit for almost 1k). So expect some hunter nerfs.

[@Anno-gm3yo]

Sigh like always.....

[@NOTHiNG2CBRA]

Even more Hunter nerfs? No way

[@lucasmoneta8091]

What about enchanting and tailoring? :(

[@juz882010]

they wont let you overskill... just like the gold ores... they wont let you get em.

[@Stinee1]

I really wish/hope that blizz sort out paladin buffs, please make our rais buffs 30 min 😢 i stopped playing as raiding is just no fun having to buff every 5 minutes (sure fix shammy totems too)

[@Chinamen]

Wario #1

[@tzugumi]

HUNTER TANKING COPIUM

[@vanHijl]

My dream is being both hunter tank + heal. People will hate me for rolling on healing gear

[@Druttentjock]

It is wierd that they have not released basically any info yet.

[@Cyrus0587]

I hope they adjust some of the crafting bs for phase 2. Engineering specifically. Racials shouldn't give that big an advantage in a phase based model

[@lukepetherick396]

Blizz fail to control bots have already ruined this sadly

[@picki7726]

How much gold does everyone have?

[@Danny_79]

Not much around 100, still have time to farm though

[@Fragoso93]

@@Danny_79😂

[@terrodar19]

About 70g

[@AMVsAnimeMachina]

I have 160g and I have stopped grinding gold 3 weeks ago,I'm just raid logging

[@bicknerry6762]

872

[@jamescoverdale7847]

But no removal of world buffs 😭

[@myssery984]

when u think it iwll lol its been announced like a week ago >

[@Jimmothytv]

I just want to transfer my main off this dead server. I spent so much time gearing and progressing my character and I don’t want to do that again.

[@dmasiodnmiod]

Hope we keep 10 player raids all the way to Naxx

[@Simon-yg9np]

Starfall for Boomies

[@stefangeibla3824]

Honestly, gold is completely worthless… everything is cheap because of bots, everything else is easily affordable. The only reason you’d need gold is for GDKP and those are just pathetic af

[@the1abstrakt]

god i am nowhere near

[@qlida4465]

buy materials etc. that is still used next phase, unless you wanna fight insane inflation rates. Botting is rampant, agreeing with the fact or not. Every single phase that gets released inflation will be wild, as it is already an established economy being overflodded with even higher amounts of gold will mean to massive inflation. If you don't i sure hope you're ready to buy gold, or be a no life basement dweller.

[@05Forenza]

Is it just me, or does this make anyone else already feel defeated? I'm a very casual player at this point (playing since 2005) and whenever I log on, I am woefully undergeared compared to anyone else in the group. This whole game has just become a race to the top and being elitist on nearly every front.

[@32kylebeam]

Git gud wow is easy

[@DarkScreamGames]

you can clear the raid in dungeon blues, so you're worried about the wrong things

[@kenetic5]

But classic wow was also elitist. I remember being part of a guild where I never got into MC because I didn't play enough hours in the week. My first raid was Karazhan in TBC, and it was the only raid because our guild was too small to do the 25 man raids. In WOTLK I took a break, came back with ICC, and couldn't join because I had no Ulduar/TOC gear.

[@dunkelctankwie8019]

Sad that no matter how different they make this season, the players will without fail devolve it into the crappy classic we already remember, only difference so far...... We get a boon right away.

[@RunAwaylilGirl]

Need a bigger ignore list players are very toxic in sod.

[@spooky_zen]

gold is everything and these bots inflated the price of things so much

[@eeyun5279]

Inflated the price of things? What? Bots massively DECREASE the cost of things, esp consumes.

[@OatsMealz]

Such as? Most things barely sell for above vendor price on crusader strike alliance

[@ForbiddenFollyFollower]

Gold is everything only if the best gear in the game can be bought in GDKPs.

[@geoffkannenberg6167]

@@ForbiddenFollyFollowerTHIS. I think you kill GDKPs, you kill majority of gold buying, and you kill botting. For that matter though, I’ve got about 10 days of played time across 8 characters on Crusader strike and lone wolf. I’ve not come across bots in SoD NEARLY at the rate I encountered botting in TBC Classic at its launch. Just don’t think it’s the issue people think it is.

[@benjaminghazi787]

Yeah buying gold is fun. I spent 400g on epic staff yesterday. Only cost me 30$ hip hip hooray

[@user-wf1nm4pg4p]

Randomiserad kommentar

[@fdajax5107]

STVietnam

[@woofhound]

Blizzard has nailed everything with SoD so far. Lets hope it continues the same way.

[@maxcarroll5670]

Hoping for a ZG 10-20 man raid.

[@ericlol99]

Maxing wsg while people still are foibg it

[@Yaeshi]

yeah sure, ppl are running around with 100s of gold on lvl 25 because of doing all the quests on levle cap sure .. it is not the gdkp gold powered by chinese farmers ... since whole classic bacisally converted into gdkp runs in majority of pugs gold is most needed thing you can have lol

[@BREAKocean]

I'm on living flame and chaos bolt and gdkps are not very common. Pugs and guild runs are more common

[@Yaeshi]

@@BREAKocean im playing on living flame and there was shit ton of gdkps, and still is .. problem is that we have P1 for so long majority ppl have almost all the gear needed from the raid, so it isnt worth it for like 3g payout, but gdkps will be back in full swing with P2

[@lennic]

Recipes are locked at 150 right now though, so gnomes most likely won't be able to learn 225 or higher recipes.

[@raphaelourmieres5648]

I have never understood why players can’t just use grenade, sappers and stuff It does not make any sense. IRL engineers invent and craft but all people using bombs aren’t even close to engineers 🤣 Blizzard, will you be making some engineers craft like dynamite, sappers etc available for non-engineers to balance out this overpowered profession (bis in pve) I thought that SOD, was a way for you to lure people into focusing more on their professions like blacksmith etc. Another option would be to create an equivalent for every professions because I do not intend to drop mining or skinning for my blacksmith or leatherworker respectively

[@emikochan13]

Sappers won't be as good due to the hp scaling on mobs at that level. Engineering has been overall nerfed by the hp increase in SoD.

[@tinyskeletonman8882]

Really hope gnomer is a 20 man raid

[@Milk-rn5uq]

I don’t

[@snosan]

big disagree

[@holysecret2]

It would be cool, but it would mess with all existing raid groups who are optimized for 10 people.

[@zaboomofoo8755]

Same! 20 would be amazing. 10s are chill, but 20 would be perfect

[@girthpapi]

Ew no

[@zernos3566]

phase 2 was confirmed in like december lol

[@tokopaaisen2927]

Raid drop rate is too bad. Fix it.

[@Tranewrekk]

LOL is this your first time playing wow?

[@tokopaaisen2927]

@@Tranewrekk no, but not first time afk neither

[@moodfm5673]

@@Tranewrekk if your horde the mail gear drops ruin everyone elses time trying to gear up. iv have multiple warriors in my guild be fully geared in 2 weeks and i still dont have a single leather piece from it. the staff drop rate is like 2%

[@brandoncastellano1858]

@@moodfm5673we’ve fully kitted out roughly 6 warriors total. Some in two runs only. All tier pieces, a few off pieces, and three of them even have the epic sword. One of them even got it on his first BFD the day he hit 25. I have a few leather and cloth wearers that are still needing one or two pieces of gear that have been raiding it since the second of third week of SoD and that feels really rough for us. 3 swords. No staff. One crossbow. (Fucking rogue got it too)

[@Shiralyn]

In Our RAID i, as a Priester healer, only got pants and Helmet Nonset pieces so far. Its ridiculous. We kitted out like 4 warriors so far

[@mullenio4200]

1000th like... Boom

[@originelltnamn]

Alliance going to be heavily favored for pvp in all phases it seems.

[@Anno-gm3yo]

Alliance is always favored by Blizzard