Phil Foden vs Bukayo Saka vs Cole Palmer

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@2TwoJ
@2TwoJ Ай бұрын
Even as a Spurs fan the Saka disrespect here is utterly atrocious.
@chingyminecraftgods9424
@chingyminecraftgods9424 Ай бұрын
Foden is better than Saka
@aronnagy6998
@aronnagy6998 27 күн бұрын
Arsenal fan here. I can understand the foden shouts, but Cole Palmers comparison is sooooo bad omg. I thought they are joking
@riaz6386
@riaz6386 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the honesty! I’m glad some fans actually realised the disrespect and bias that’s going around! Respect to you!
@Deomnibusdubitandum274
@Deomnibusdubitandum274 5 күн бұрын
@@chingyminecraftgods9424he isn’t. Foden plays in a team where you get moments to beat Real etc. Buvey is picking and choosing criteria that contradicts why he would also pick Palmer. Saka plays for a team that have only just got back into the champions league.
@chingyminecraftgods9424
@chingyminecraftgods9424 5 күн бұрын
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 ur an arsenal fan mate Foden is more versatile
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
W logic from Rory in this one. He's the only one trying not to be biased lol
@harrydavies5055
@harrydavies5055 Ай бұрын
Does my head in that they do these debates without a rep from each club. Big up Rory for defending Saka. Some of the points that Buvey made are so silly. Asking where was Saka in big games... Foden has 0 g/a and 0 wins in the 4 title race games. Quiet against RM 2nd leg, FA Cup semi. Villa (A), Wolves, Chelsea x2 in the PL. Buvey is the easiest person to debate against but he always picks his battles when there isn't an opposition fan present.
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
@@harrydavies5055 100% facts
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi they usually do and it's what helped True Gordie become a big channel. Collaborating with other club's content creators. But they don't NEED to do it every episode. Suspending reality and saying that Saka hasn't scored against big clubs is a false statement by Buvey.
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi it is "The Club" and none of them would have the success they have if it wasn't for TG. As for Saka, he DID score against all top 6 teams and vs Bayern. The issue is Ars needed a RW to challenge Saka for his spot, instead now they are suffering from fatigue.
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi furthermore Calum, that's not to say I don't like the Club, I like all 3 of them but I wouldn't have known about them if I didn't see them on True Geordie.
@indecision8828
@indecision8828 Ай бұрын
The Saka hate from the Club expect Rory is crazy. Saka has 19 GA against top 6. Also comparing him to Valencia should be a crime.
@rakimrobinsonMCFC
@rakimrobinsonMCFC Ай бұрын
So G/a is good for saka but not palmer?
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
@@rakimrobinsonMCFC no one said that but Palmer has like 10 penalty goals. Villas Ollie has almost the same goals with 0 penalties.
@madaxwayne
@madaxwayne Ай бұрын
@@BillyHades palmer has more npg than saka and more assists in a diabolical team compared to sakas title challengers
@indecision8828
@indecision8828 Ай бұрын
@@rakimrobinsonMCFC never said it isn‘t good but one good season doesn’t equal that.
@indecision8828
@indecision8828 Ай бұрын
@@madaxwayne where does he have more asissts?
@younglampost1058
@younglampost1058 Ай бұрын
‘Comparing saka to foden is like comparing Rooney to Ashley young’ Adam’s ball knowledge never ceases to amaze me
@indecision8828
@indecision8828 Ай бұрын
i‘m looking forward to shutting him up once more when arsenal are playing utd in gw 37
@giorgoskyriakides4428
@giorgoskyriakides4428 Ай бұрын
Another terrible take from Adam
@mattgooner4531
@mattgooner4531 Ай бұрын
lol this guy has 0 ball knowledge. He just hates copious hate for arsenal and England
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 Ай бұрын
He's the best of these 3 for sure. Bit the other 2 are dreadful so
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 Ай бұрын
Bad analogy, not bad ball knowledge
@ankaraMessi21
@ankaraMessi21 Ай бұрын
The hate Saka gets these days is insane
@wD945
@wD945 Ай бұрын
​@@davidcubillos1196Tell me you don't know ball without telling me you don't know ball
@southshottest1654
@southshottest1654 Ай бұрын
It’s ridiculous 😂 he’s 22 with 30+ goals and assist and people treat him like he’s a bang average footballer it’s insanity
@goatclips2222
@goatclips2222 Ай бұрын
these days? hes been playing professional for 3 years u nut job
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
The standard for Saka is astronomically high compared to Foden and Palmer. Foden often has very low dips in form but bcos there are so many brilliant players at City it goes unnoticed. So if he’s not picking up the slack then it’s ok bcos Bernardo Silva or mahrez or gundogan would’ve. This is Foden’s first real breakout season so compared to his other years of mid he looks insanely good. Same thing for palmer as well. It’s his first season starting for a team and his output looks crazy. Saka over the last 3 season has been consistently carrying Arsenal but bcos he’s not bagging a goal or assist every game then he looks average when in reality he’s still be better than 99% of wingers in the league this season. People will have the same talk next season if Foden or palmer only 25 G/A they’ll start calling them mid.
@mowgli8480
@mowgli8480 Ай бұрын
Obvisouly Saka is a great player, but Foden is better, and I'd argue the same for Palmer. His ceiling is astronomical high
@LilSoul55
@LilSoul55 Ай бұрын
You can't have a debate if you are not ready to have a fair talk. Look at how quick they try to bring down Saka with football Twitter waffle. Stop bringing the FT logic into these videos. Well done to Rory for shutting down Buvey. And Adam is just salty and dead inside, the only thing he has left is hate watching.
@Ahmad-jx5ku
@Ahmad-jx5ku Ай бұрын
This discussion is a disgrace.Just think the most sensible person being Rory in the discussion.
@KaidenKnox11
@KaidenKnox11 Ай бұрын
Because the other two are clowns.
@KaidenKnox11
@KaidenKnox11 Ай бұрын
@@thetruth4654 but did you know, Palmer is Black? That might change your opinion.
@bjarkeskadhauge2811
@bjarkeskadhauge2811 27 күн бұрын
😅​@@thetruth4654
@isascower7247
@isascower7247 26 күн бұрын
@@thetruth4654Zero football knowledge smh
@Cbfbxvzg
@Cbfbxvzg Ай бұрын
4:27 was literally our best player during the World Cup.
@hyywe240
@hyywe240 Ай бұрын
I'm not that far in but are you talking about kane?
@Cbfbxvzg
@Cbfbxvzg Ай бұрын
@@hyywe240 no, saka, Buvey says he was poor at the World Cup 🤣
@number1chesschampionsket683
@number1chesschampionsket683 Ай бұрын
​@@Cbfbxvzgdon't remember a single significant thing he did in the world cup
@elozinoemeovrode9779
@elozinoemeovrode9779 Ай бұрын
@@number1chesschampionsket683you didn’t watch it then
@Cbfbxvzg
@Cbfbxvzg Ай бұрын
@@number1chesschampionsket683 against France he was the best players on the pitch and scored 3 in 4 but sure he didn’t do anything
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
Adam is only a few years removed from saying Saka is nothing more than a squad player so why the hell would anyone take what he has to say seriously anyway. He only connects his brain to his mouth when it comes time to talk about United.
@MikeKnowsBall_
@MikeKnowsBall_ Ай бұрын
These idiots are forgetting Saka put Arsenal on his back years ago
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 Ай бұрын
Come is doing that for fielders now tbf, arguably moreso
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
They don’t rate Saka bcos they don’t rate his skin colour, don’t be twanged by the racismo guys
@thelegendthatischels
@thelegendthatischels Ай бұрын
Hi rants​@@Maple_T29
@path6336
@path6336 Ай бұрын
On his back for a fa cup 😂
@mowgli8480
@mowgli8480 Ай бұрын
​@@Maple_T29lol you're right, unless you rate black people highest in everything, even if it's undeserved, you're racist. Everyone with half a brain would take Foden and Palmer over Saka..
@rkt177
@rkt177 Ай бұрын
Tribalism aside, when it comes to England people will pick Saka because they know deep down hes the best option to help win the games
@user-bq2tc6dh6t
@user-bq2tc6dh6t Ай бұрын
and he isn't even English
@StandardsFC
@StandardsFC Ай бұрын
@@user-bq2tc6dh6t hes born and raised in London. If he at all felt Nigerian he would have played for them....but he didnt.
@BenLeinster
@BenLeinster Ай бұрын
@@user-bq2tc6dh6tI think what you meant is white because Declan Rice isn't English but no one give a shit
@GeekyMedia
@GeekyMedia Ай бұрын
@@StandardsFCdon’t worry mate, the guy above probably doesn’t realise that his own heritage isn’t “English”. Nations and different ethnic groups have been coming to England for thousands of years. Romans, Saxons, Normans - non of them were English. Like you said, if you’re London born & bread, you are without a doubt English 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@Grmdaily
@Grmdaily Ай бұрын
Is this a sketch? 😂😂😂
@kabirghai8709
@kabirghai8709 Ай бұрын
Don’t think there’s any drawing involved mate
@freddieduggan7255
@freddieduggan7255 Ай бұрын
Foden did not run the UCL final 😂🤦🏻‍♂️
@wespicedmemes
@wespicedmemes Ай бұрын
Looool no ways someone said that
@rakimrobinsonMCFC
@rakimrobinsonMCFC Ай бұрын
Who did?
@637x4
@637x4 Ай бұрын
He literally keept our midfield togheter with Rodri?
@rakimrobinsonMCFC
@rakimrobinsonMCFC Ай бұрын
@Duval-In-The-Wall since you did, who ran it? You obviously remember the highlights and not the match.
@adambassuni6084
@adambassuni6084 Ай бұрын
@@637x4 no he didnt lmao, inter were the better team the whole game and foden was decent, certainly didnt run the game. Your guy who 'ran the game' didnt even start the game 😭😭
@thor8419
@thor8419 Ай бұрын
The disrespect Saka gets on this channel is genuinely disgusting!
@NoooTheWall32
@NoooTheWall32 Ай бұрын
The hypocrisy of Adam and Buvey saying that the Saka and Foden debate is harmful to Saka is a disgrace. Literally a couple of weeks ago it was an actual debate between fans and had good reason to be Saka or Foden. Whoever you thought it was, was fine, but it was an actual debate. Now after a week of bad play, it’s disrespectful to even debate it? Yea okay😂
@MasumAbdullah-zc1ub
@MasumAbdullah-zc1ub Ай бұрын
Tbf it is a crap debate only arsenal fans think its saka
@NoooTheWall32
@NoooTheWall32 Ай бұрын
@@MasumAbdullah-zc1ub no it isn’t, there was legit debates about it and no, it wasn’t just Arsenal fans. The recency bias is a joke. If it was only being discussed bc of Arsenal fans, then there must have been a lottttttt of Arsenal fans around
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd Ай бұрын
@@NoooTheWall32 It is just Arsenal fans.
@NoooTheWall32
@NoooTheWall32 Ай бұрын
@@Al-ji4gd I can remember Mark Goldbridge saying that he would pick Saka over Foden. So no, it’s not just Arsenal fans. Just cause you hate them, doesn’t mean they are always the problem
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd Ай бұрын
@@NoooTheWall32 Goldbridge doesn't know anything about football lol, so who caraes what he said?
@ShrimpSweaties
@ShrimpSweaties Ай бұрын
It’s fashionable and fun for rival fans to hate on Saka at the moment. It’s the flavour of the month. It’s utter nonsense. They’ll pick out 1 thing Saka does poorly and ignore the 9 other things he does wonderfully. Just admit you don’t like him or the team he plays for and acknowledge your lack of impartiality. Hilarious that Buvey/Adam are waxing lyrical about Palmer for having a good season statistically but will scoff at Saka’s consistent numbers which he’s hit and improved on year after year.
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
Yeah but tbf he did miss a cross once.
@ShrimpSweaties
@ShrimpSweaties Ай бұрын
@@miniman2132 that is so true I can’t believe I forgot about that
@camcunningham9443
@camcunningham9443 Ай бұрын
Arsenal fan here, travel all over to watch. He has not been the same player since the World Cup last year, I couldn’t care less about GA as a defense. Haaland still has 20 goals this year but has clearly been off the boil. I don’t put it all on Bukayo though; it was clear at the end of last season he needed serious rest. We did not buy any cover and it’s carried over. He’s played insane minutes for his age, something that Pep didn’t allow with Foden. Saka no longer beats his man, his burst is gone, and he’s been absolutely nullified in all the biggest games since the turn of last year. Before that i remember his home performances against United and Liverpool and Spurs where he was absolutely irresistible.
@ShrimpSweaties
@ShrimpSweaties Ай бұрын
@@camcunningham9443 I agree, I don’t think he’s been the same player this season as last however I think part of that comes down to the system that Arsenal play now. I think it’s appalling that they’ve not provided cover for him in fairness and you can clearly see the fatigue setting in. It’s a strange one the argument regarding him beating his man. I’ve felt that this is the case too; he doesn’t seem to do it as often but when you look at the statistics (which I try not to do generally speaking), he actually attempts and completes more take ons than Foden who people sing the praises of for his ability to beat his man. It’s a strange one. Not to mention the fact that he’s often getting double and sometimes triple marked out of games. The only thing I’d level against him this season is that he does have games where he frustrates me which he hasn’t before but I feel that much of that comes from expectations more than anything. I think he’s a sensational player with so much ability and he’s getting dragged through the mud at the moment because it’s fashionable and gets clicks/interactions.
@camcunningham9443
@camcunningham9443 Ай бұрын
@@ShrimpSweaties I think he’s played pretty well overall v the lesser teams, I was strictly talking about his impact in the meaningful games. Sporting home and away, Porto home and away, Bayern away, city away in fa cup, twice away in league and once at home, Liverpool away twice, Villa home and away, Newcastle away. I still love the bloke to bits but it’s an increasing concern for me, because the first half of last season he was so explosive and teams couldn’t handle it. I do take your point that the system has changed a bit and teams are starting to double up, but he does also have the luxury of Odegaard/White that Martinelli doesn’t (so many LB/left 8 pairings) who has also looked a shadow of himself this season. The worst part is he will go to the euros in the summer and just add further mileage to those legs. I don’t think Foden or Palmer are comparable players to Saka, they both operate as CAM and influence the game in a different manner. It’s like comparing Odegaard to Sane, it makes no sense.
@Thatfan864
@Thatfan864 Ай бұрын
Saka is way more consistent than any of those two he’s been delivering and carrying aresnal for the last 4 seasons
@camcunningham9443
@camcunningham9443 Ай бұрын
Absolute nonsense. Haven’t missed a game in two years, and he has been below par since the World Cup. That’s 14 months. It’s not all his fault because he never gets rested, even when it comes to in game substitutions in games already won. That said, he has been underwhelming in 80-85% of crucial games since then. I will list them if you want to argue
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
⁠@@camcunningham9443 ‘below par’ since the World Cup and he has over 30 g/a in the league😂 no it’s just the standard for Saka is way higher than the other two bums. ‘underwhelming’ in the big games but he scored against Liverpool, scored against spurs and got the assist for the other. Yeh this is just racism at this point mate, not even trying to hide it are ya
@camcunningham9443
@camcunningham9443 Ай бұрын
@@Maple_T29 you obviously have something seriously wrong with you. Racism? How about this, Martinelli has had an even bigger drop off than Saka… Talk to me about sporting away and sporting home. Porto away and Porto home. Munich away. City away in fa cup, city away twice in the league, city home in the league. Liverpool away twice. Newcastle away, villa home and away. I’ve been at all these games, where have you been? You g/a merchant, doesn’t watch football, just looks at stats. I don’t even need to get into the run in last season (west ham away, Brighton home, Forest away) He’s played too much football in too short a space of time at too young an age, and he’s off to Germany for the euros in the summer aswell. It’s madness
@jack28aug
@jack28aug Ай бұрын
carrying them to what? AN fa cup? Fodens responsible for the only game pep won at anfield against klopp, and has ran games at the highest level in the ucl, and won stuff. they might have similar g/a but foden does so much more around that. Plus the narative peps held him back for his own good. Arteta has rinsed saka.
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
@@jack28aug swap Foden and Saka around and the trophy hauls would swap as well. Foden was warming the bench for guys like mahrez and gundogan, don’t try and rewrite history bcos he’s having a good season now the actual game winners have left the club. This is Foden’s first real breakout season bcos in all the other seasons he hasn’t been a main stay in the team. What Foden is currently doing now is exactly what a player like Saka is being called average for. When Saka plays well, they compare him to salah. When Foden plays well they compare him to Saka. That should tell you everything you need to know
@aarjunpatel8563
@aarjunpatel8563 Ай бұрын
Saka has done it for 4 years, carrying a bad team as an 18 yr old. And has more g/a than Ronaldo at his age in less games (obv not saying hes anywhere near him). Whereas foden, has been eased in the best team in the world, and has had his mins managed flawlessly. Imagine foden playkng with sokratis and kolasinac, thats why what palmer is doing is so impressive as he is in an awful team. Not to mention he has done it internationally, where has foden done at the last 2 England tournaments? Nothing.
@637x4
@637x4 Ай бұрын
Carrying a arsenal to where exactly? He is just as mediocre as arsenals institution in itself, good player sure, however foden has been and started regularly in some of the worlds greatest squads since he was younger than 18 😭 on top of that he is one of the most decorated players there is itl, he has countless of unreal performances for us.
@101notfound17
@101notfound17 Ай бұрын
@@637x4his trophies and success with city team don’t mean nothing he was just a squad player nothing more even bojan won 2 trebles with barca is he better than hazard or griezmann?? Saka has been the main player for a team who ‘s been the title contender for last 2 seasons and been England’s one of the best players in reaching euros finals or World Cup quarters foden can’t even start for England he
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
Saka has won more player of the years for England than palmer has caps for England😂😂😂 nah the disrespect is vile, how dare they. When Saka plays well they compare him to Salah. When Foden and palmer play well they compare him to Saka. That should tell you everything you need to know about this debate. Foden and palmer fan girls can come and chat to us when both players hit 30 g/a in 4 seasons consistently. Until then they’ll just have to hold bench like they do for England. Foden is only good bcos he’s surrounded by world class players, put him in the United team for example and he would be straight ass. Palmer is just a Bruno Fernandes regen. Anyone remember 4/5 years ago when Fernandes scored all those pens for United and they were having fernandes/de bruyne debates? This is the exact same thing. Take away pens from Palmer and Chelsea and there’s gonna be a lot of uncomfortable conversations but you fan girls aren’t ready for that yet
@chingyminecraftgods9424
@chingyminecraftgods9424 Ай бұрын
Foden is better
@cahonez247
@cahonez247 Ай бұрын
Put saka in the city team he gets more goals than foden.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd Ай бұрын
So what? Foden is still a much better player.
@ccc5949
@ccc5949 Ай бұрын
How he would be bencu
@figurez9184
@figurez9184 Ай бұрын
I just knew after the palmer hat trick this was coming imo it’s been Saka foden palmer
@GamerGarden
@GamerGarden Ай бұрын
The way people disrespect Saka i actually don't think England deserve him. Let Foden and Palmer play in front and put up no shows as it is what England deserve. Saka carried England during the Euros and has been their best winger for 2 years. As a arsenal fan i'd be happy for Saka to be on the bench or not even taken as he needs a rest. Not like england will win with Southgate at the helm anyways
@edenjorginho8604
@edenjorginho8604 Ай бұрын
disrispect
@MasumAbdullah-zc1ub
@MasumAbdullah-zc1ub Ай бұрын
Saka didn't carry Harry kane Jack grealish declan rice kyle walker or sterling
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yiwith all due respect, Palmer isn’t exactly taking part in many games that mean anything this season is he? Chelsea are 8th, they’ve been as low as that all season. The guy is playing for himself, and getting lots of goals. Let’s see how he does if the Chelsea sh**show ever gets back to making a decent crack at achieving something.
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi I’m sorry mate, but a team in 10th just doesn’t have the same level of pressure then games when you are trying to win the league. Chelsea fans have just wanted the season to end for months now, and though Palmer has had a great season, that doesn’t mean it will maintain if this Chelsea team ever improves. When Arteta started at Arsenal one of the players that contributed most to Arsenals success was Kieran Tierney .. a year later he was redundant to the team. Tierney was replaced by Zinchenko and Zinny became one of the keys to Arsenals success .. a year later he is redundant and Arsenal fans are in agreement that a new LB is needed. What works for your team at one level of the game doesn’t always work at a level higher. Hopefully for Palmers sake he can stay relevant, but it’s not a given, and we won’t know if he’s at that level until he is there.
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi moving from a 5th place team to 2nd place team who made their first legitimate attempt at challenging for the Premier League in nearly 20 years, and maintained that level this year.
@MrBuurh
@MrBuurh Ай бұрын
Foden is a better footballer than Saka, but for Adam to compare him to Antonio Valencia, just doing it for the clicks, Palmer is looking very good in a shit Chelsea team, remember last season when Rashford was the best footballer ever according to United fans, now they want him gone! Lets see if he can be consistent, also Saka & Foden have both got 18 goal contributions against the big 6 in there careers both having played 40 games & Saka started as a left back...
@kajolo1288
@kajolo1288 25 күн бұрын
How is Foden better than Saka? Saka has been a starter for Arsenal for sometime now, also a guaranteed starter for Englans, 1 good season for the 2 lads cant change that, and Saka season is not even that off from them
@Conker66
@Conker66 Ай бұрын
First time I ever see Rory actually humble himself and speak from a point of reason. I’m genuinely surprised. I’ll give it a week before he starts saying Pogba is better than KDB. A week…
@properchels3951
@properchels3951 Ай бұрын
I don’t understand the Pogba shout, but for an Arsenal player Rory was surprisingly unbiased
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Ай бұрын
He already tried starting it in a vid before but immediately got shut down by Ade
@tnosiraliyev
@tnosiraliyev Ай бұрын
plz guys understand that buvey doesnt represent man city fanbase, cuz most of his ideas are wild
@user-bp2nd2zk8n
@user-bp2nd2zk8n Ай бұрын
Was a subscriber from the beginning, now you've lost me. This isn't banter, it's just bad football knowledge, unsubscribed.
@bobbymagill1596
@bobbymagill1596 Ай бұрын
Btw if saka played for city he would be killing the league.
@chrisjuinor4148
@chrisjuinor4148 Ай бұрын
Yeah and what doesn’t make sense is that Rory brings up the point that Saka has been the best Arsenal player for the past 3 seasons. Then buvey asks what Arsenal have won as if Phil Foden was able to get a consistent run of games in the time they won any of those trophies
@ccc5949
@ccc5949 Ай бұрын
On the bench
@lucasrobinson1102
@lucasrobinson1102 Ай бұрын
Cole Palmer had as much involvement in that treble as I had in my own conception. People need to stop using this as a way to boost him up
@Neatguyjake
@Neatguyjake Ай бұрын
Cole Palmer is literally 6 months younger than Saka and they are talking about his age. That alone shows how good saka is. They think he is older because of how good he has been for such a long time for a 21 year old
@joshfaulkner7345
@joshfaulkner7345 Ай бұрын
Saka has been consistent for many years now. Foden is only been unbelievable this season. Palmer has had a great season but he needs to do it again to be on the same level
@Cynthia20043
@Cynthia20043 Ай бұрын
That’s such a lie, it’s unbelievable… Foden has been exceptional for years. Our team had the likes of silva, kdb Bernardo, mahrez so on and when he’s started against the likes of psg and Dortmund he was a different class, he could dictate a game, he’s always had the stats, but stats don’t mean anything, saka is nowhere near foden or palmer on a technical level, sakas scores system goals
@joshfaulkner7345
@joshfaulkner7345 Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi 22 g/a isn’t below par
@user-bq2tc6dh6t
@user-bq2tc6dh6t Ай бұрын
@@Cynthia20043 He hasn't only twice got 14+ league goals/assists it isn't unbelievable or a generational talent
@user-bq2tc6dh6t
@user-bq2tc6dh6t Ай бұрын
@Calum-xv4yi yet in the Premier League/Champions League has one more goal/assists
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd Ай бұрын
@@joshfaulkner7345 Fuck G/A, he's a bum. He showed how much of a bum he is against Porto, Bayern and Villa.
@2394Randy
@2394Randy Ай бұрын
Foden, saka, palmer as of now, foden has the success and is a more flair player, saka isn’t as fancy but has output and has been going up and up for the past 4 years in a worse team, palmer has 1 phenomenal season so just can’t go higher YET. One point I’d like to make about foden and his success is that he hasn’t been a focal point for it, he’s been along for the ride other then having one good game against a week inter Milan.
@NSorSomething
@NSorSomething Ай бұрын
4:00 Yeah, because City have fucking KDB and had David Silva before him, who even is Arsenal's second RW? Of course Saka has played more because of that, it's dumb logic to use.
@Neatguyjake
@Neatguyjake Ай бұрын
Yeah and that is why City have won so much. Its a hard argument to have when everyone’s points are deeply flawed
@Deathmare235
@Deathmare235 Ай бұрын
There’s the national squad though
@matthewcolclough2541
@matthewcolclough2541 Ай бұрын
‘He doesn’t do it in big games.’ Has the most goal contributions against the big 6 at the age of 21 and under. Foden is so good that there are around 6-7 players in his squad more important than him
@637x4
@637x4 Ай бұрын
Foden is top 3 in our squad stop the lies and on top of that he has played regularly in some of the worlds greatest squads since a teen lol y’all arguing with arguments like “saka has played in his position more” like he doesn’t play for a club that hasn’t won a single major trophy in what now? 1.5 decades? Unreal, ofc the lad is good but foden is clearly a few steps above 😂
@user-zo5dr2qe4x
@user-zo5dr2qe4x Ай бұрын
Palmer is unreal , he almost always makes the right Descisions and he’s got a killer mentality . Doesn’t feel the pressure one bit
@habidhussain
@habidhussain 18 күн бұрын
I'm just happy we have so many great exciting players
@markc1628
@markc1628 22 күн бұрын
Started the video / 4 seconds in… Buvey: “I tweeted this, cole Palmer overtakes Saka as RW in ENG team because I don’t want losers starting” / I close video. 😂
@matthewcolclough2541
@matthewcolclough2541 Ай бұрын
Adam talking about ‘he doesn’t get you off the edge of his seat’ like he doesn’t rate Giggs
@StandardsFC
@StandardsFC Ай бұрын
Comparing Saka to Ryan Giggs is crazy I cant lie.
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
The only time Giggs gets you off your seat is when you hear he’s got another court case on his hands😂
@StandardsFC
@StandardsFC Ай бұрын
@@Maple_T29 zero ball knowledge
@Maple_T29
@Maple_T29 Ай бұрын
@@StandardsFC not my fault Giggs beats his missus😂
@Andrew-Lee91
@Andrew-Lee91 6 күн бұрын
Fodens Trophies are built on FFP violations and a team with a salary of around 500 millions. Compared in numbers Saka and Foden are more than comparable. This blind football knowledge that lives in and around Manchester and its both clubs is amazing. Deluted as fuck
@lunavara5268
@lunavara5268 Ай бұрын
Really bored of Buvey using 'but what has he won?' for every single argument. Do you have the mental capacity to apply any critical thinking to an argument, without just throwing out a blank and irrelevant statement in hopes of proving your point? I used to enjoy Buvey's wind up takes, but holy shit it gets old fast when he literally has nothing relevant to say at all. Harry Kane is the best striker in the world. He has been for quite a few years now. "But what has he won".. It's such a dumb argument. He is still the best striker in the world. I'm an Arsenal fan btw. I AGREE that Foden is more talented than Saka. I also wish that our fans would stop calling him world class and using dumb reasons to justify it. Doesn't really matter if he is in the top 5 right wingers in the world right now or not, that doesn't automatically make him world class, especially when the standards for that position isn't exactly crammed full of talent. I agree that Foden is more talented than Saka. But Buvey, stop making dumb arguments all the time. There are a multitude of reasons why Foden is a better player with a higher ceiling, and all you can ever say is 'buh wut haz heee won thoo?' 'has he dun it in a final tho?'. You make me lose braincells every time I try and watch you argue a point. So old now.
@RyanSprkl
@RyanSprkl 26 күн бұрын
Saka is consistently the opening scorer for Arsenal & has been the focal point of this massive revival, he’s one of the only players in the last 6 years to reach 50 goals & 50 assists & his defensive work goes absolutely unnoticed. Foden & Palmer are better finishers & maybe have a bit more magic to their game but Saka is incredibly efficient.
@birklundgren9716
@birklundgren9716 27 күн бұрын
When will the nonsence of ‘saka doesn’t score in big games’ end. He is our MOST consistent big moments player since auba left. A thought experiment, if arsenal played leverkusen right now and you just see the score at halftime, 1-1, who would you think scored for arsenal?
@jacoblong8128
@jacoblong8128 Ай бұрын
Saka with 3 goals in the world cup for England
@bwilliams4703
@bwilliams4703 27 күн бұрын
Palmer is not as good as saka and foden Palmer scores a ton as he has a team of 10 men that can’t shoot on target around him and they have all realised he can shoot and he gets to play in a role where he sits on the last man and shoots or plays it out wide when he receives it Saka is levels above palmer, as he plays in a system that relies on the whole team contributing and still is the stand out man, that is something you can’t define as ability or output, it just is how it is, when Salah first came to Liverpool they would of said the same thing about him only having output And I do agree that Foden is the best of the three but it’s close between Foden and Saka Buvey thinks saka doesn’t influence a game like the others cuz he sits out wide and plays to the strength of the system where palmer has a free role in a mid table side with no system other than to try score
@connordurham6827
@connordurham6827 26 күн бұрын
The problem with this conversation is there is a City fan, Chelsea fan, and then a United fan without someone who can really speak to what Saka means to Arsenal
@shumannongera
@shumannongera Ай бұрын
You guys say Saka does nothing for Arsenal but Arsenal are second but say Palmer carries chelsea and they been 10th
@user-kv1kj9pn8p
@user-kv1kj9pn8p Ай бұрын
Because Saka has a much better team behind him. Cole Palmer has to play with Nicholas Jackson and Madueke
@MAA_02
@MAA_02 Ай бұрын
In Saka’s first season when he was 18 years old and got 4 goals and 13 assists, Adam was calling him Januzaj. 21 year old Palmer does slightly better but doesn’t get the same slander
@KratosIsSick
@KratosIsSick Ай бұрын
There are Arsenal nuts in the comments section who think RORY is the sane one. :)
@eastres6863
@eastres6863 Ай бұрын
so early to this one, LETS GO BOYS!
@rileypinney6885
@rileypinney6885 Ай бұрын
Haven’t started yet but I know where this is going.
@jacobcoralnick548
@jacobcoralnick548 28 күн бұрын
Fools clearly don’t research. Only 1 season in CL and great G/A record. Not to mention his record against the “Big 6” is crazy good.
@joeallen781
@joeallen781 Ай бұрын
As much as Palmer been doing well this season and I do think doing it with an awful Chelsea is impressive... Can we maybe wind in the love fest for him? let's see how well he does next season
@mategyero
@mategyero 21 күн бұрын
These converstions dont matter in the grand scheme of things. They are intended to farm engagement. But when you honestly look at it, being easy on the eye doesnt get players to the top. Its efficiency, the output. Its the ability to perform at the high level. Saka has been at it since 18. And a starter since the age of 19. Foden has just become regular fixture this season. Cole Palmer is having his breakout season at 22-the same thing as Saka who has been doing this for at least 4 years consistently. All players are good but the comparison is wild. They say Foden and Palmer are number 10s. Saka is not. I dont think if you put those two on the wing, they deliver what Saka does every week. My point is that y'all have some good players. Enjoy them instead of killing them for social media engagement.
@firsttouchfootball2448
@firsttouchfootball2448 Ай бұрын
Buvey saying Palmer could just cut in for England when he’s watched Pep pin wingers on the sidelines for years is crazy lol
@jamiebaker8017
@jamiebaker8017 22 күн бұрын
This is outrageous
@kurtsudheim825
@kurtsudheim825 Ай бұрын
Jla did a vod comparing the 2, he knows far more than these 3 combined
@charliebrett2432
@charliebrett2432 Ай бұрын
TBF Saka has really struggled I think this season at times and I think it's down to being overplayed for like 5 years now. Palmer is fresh and with a point to prove and Foden has maybe has had his best season in the premier league. Foden, Palmer and Watkins are all close to player of the year but Saka isn't even Arsenal's best player this season with Rice, Saliba, even Odeguard? And if we're being fair even Arsenal fans should admit that Saka has had the weakest season of the three. I don't mean this as any real criticism on Saka just that Palmer might win the golden boot as a midfielder?? and Foden has been scoring screamers all season like the goal against Real Madrid.....
@BillyHades
@BillyHades Ай бұрын
Saka has been world class, stop hating. No one has scored more and assisted more than him in that RW position for Arsenal and he has also played over 3000 minutes; unlike Foden who was rotated a lot more at City. Palmer needs another few seasons of this quality and he might surpass both.
@TP-pq9xx
@TP-pq9xx Ай бұрын
Salah has always scored and assisted more than Saka.
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
@@TP-pq9xxwhy do you think that having to compare Saka to one of the best players in PL history degrades Saka in any way?
@TP-pq9xx
@TP-pq9xx Ай бұрын
@@miniman2132 What the comment said was false. Why do people feel the need to lie about Saka to make him seem like a better player?
@miniman2132
@miniman2132 Ай бұрын
@@TP-pq9xx anyone who says that Saka is currently better then Salah is just doing it for the banter .. my advice to you would be to not give as much credence to banter accounts on Twitter as you do. The point remains that, if you offer me Saka or Salah, I’m taking Saka. Younger, huge potential, massive talent and incredibly marketable.
@TP-pq9xx
@TP-pq9xx Ай бұрын
@@miniman2132 No one said anything about Twitter. The comment that I responded to here on youtube, in this comment thread says that Saka has always gotten more g/a than anyone on the RW which means they forgot about Salah. Saka has already hit his ceiling, there's no potential left for him.
@Manasinner
@Manasinner Ай бұрын
Who was the best player apart from griezman in the ENGLAND -FRANCE game? It was saka truth b told
@sandeshmishra1205
@sandeshmishra1205 Ай бұрын
Phil foden is better then everyone Phil foden is generational 💙💙
@mrjrountree
@mrjrountree Ай бұрын
Arsenal fan. Rory is completely correct here. Although I'd say Saka would be ranked 3rd of the three this season, he's been England's best player the last 2 major competitions and has been consistent for arsenal for the past 4 years. If I was ranking them, it would be Foden, Saka, Palmer. If Palmer keeps up though, it won't be long before I'd put him over Saka because I do feel Saka hides behind numbers and his performances haven't been that rest this season
@Neatguyjake
@Neatguyjake Ай бұрын
I can’t believe Buvey said he doesn’t want losers in his squad talking about Saka as if Palmer isn’t playing for a mid table team
@lourencocalado5800
@lourencocalado5800 Ай бұрын
Buvey is so biased it is sad; Saka has 18 g/a vs the big six. Palmer has been good for only six months. Foden, excluding this season, was a bench player. To say Saka does not influence games is pure Twitter talk. “Running the game against Inter In the Final” wasn't even starting and only played because De Bruyne got injured. And was one of the worse in the field. This season has been class,but stop being biased.
@jacobdennis5365
@jacobdennis5365 Ай бұрын
Adam hit the crack pipe before this video
@FattyThinPhoton
@FattyThinPhoton Ай бұрын
What the fuck is Rory talking about? Over the last 4 seasons Saka's output has been better than Foden's in one of them... Even then, he only had 2 more GA than Foden, whilst also being on pens and Foden having 2 ankle injuries and appendicitis during the season. Rory's weird anti-City agenda continues. 3 years ago, he was claiming Mason Mount was on Foden's level, too.
@lshakey6187
@lshakey6187 Ай бұрын
From an Arsenal fan, Foden is more technically gifted but saka is a better player all round, up untill KDB’s injury at the start of the season this wasn’t even a debate…
@jumpingalaxies951
@jumpingalaxies951 Ай бұрын
Buvey has become the funniest man on KZbin, "sent him to Londis to get some Ribena."
@FearedAudacity
@FearedAudacity Ай бұрын
All three are of similar great quality, they are different forwards who are devastating in different ways
@jjtheking4tw928
@jjtheking4tw928 Ай бұрын
There is not a single thing saka has that the other 2 don’t
@FearedAudacity
@FearedAudacity Ай бұрын
@@jjtheking4tw928 he is a lot more direct off of the right. While Foden is a bit more fiesty and nimble and Palmer is more composed and gives off the effortless energy, Saka does the obvious things but quickly and with purpose. His crossing in open play tends to be very good, and his finishing is similar to the other two. Im a Spurs fan, but you have to admire good football when you see it
@williams6334
@williams6334 27 күн бұрын
Hang on, Cole Palmer is a victim of a system around him that's failing, but this was never the case for Saka? They guy literally was the only bright light that Arsenal had for a few years and carried the team and now he finally has some help. Palmer is doing extremely well and basically the exact same thing Saka was doing though with a higher goal output but less assists. Palmer >>> Haaland if we are wanting to base it off just a season. I'd love to see the excuses from these guys as to why that's not the case and then how they then would justify why Saka isn't in the conversation.
@macca4610
@macca4610 Ай бұрын
Foden right now is better but over the last 2 years saka/foden very comparable.
@prateekmishra6637
@prateekmishra6637 Ай бұрын
The hate and absolute disregard for Saka's career is outrageous and completely exemplifies the hate British people dish out on their own idols. Made me unsubscribe. Thank you Adam, I mistook you for being a sensible football fan.
@GeekyMedia
@GeekyMedia Ай бұрын
Rory’s point is pretty valid. Obviously, Palmer is a fantastic player and could become literally world-class. BUT Saka is more proven. He’s been more reliable for both Arsenal and England for years now. It’s still relatively early days for Cole.
@oakley7673
@oakley7673 24 күн бұрын
Foden couldn’t start for city until this season whereas saka was arsenals most important player for the last 3 seasons
@mattgooner4531
@mattgooner4531 Ай бұрын
Rare W for Rory in this vid
@jeremyebert3309
@jeremyebert3309 Ай бұрын
In the biggest match of Pep Guardiolas career at City, a Champions League final and trevle on the line... the best manager in the world decided that he could do with Foden on the bench.
@snookerstones
@snookerstones 28 күн бұрын
Adam’s spot on when he says city would never sell palmer to United
@RigorousExplorer
@RigorousExplorer 27 күн бұрын
You want to know why Saka is getting hate, because of Arsenal fans overhype. They said Saka was better than Rodrigo, RODRIGO. Other than that Saka is a good player for sure.
@ripxdoc
@ripxdoc Ай бұрын
no Kane has been the first name on the England team sheet for those years
@eddieshearman9967
@eddieshearman9967 Ай бұрын
People forget saka has played some of his best games vs the big 6. Scored against Bayern Munich. Englands best player at the WC. England POTY back to back. Sakas worst form over 3-4 years and he has equal GA to foden. Joke comparison. Also fodens achievements are mostly down to the players around him, I wouldn’t say he’s been that influential in city’s recent success. Imo up until this season he’d be 5/6th on the team sheet. Saka has carried arsenal on his own at times
@ElManataro
@ElManataro Ай бұрын
Yall talk about burn out....Jude is still running full 90th box to box. Thats a difference of world class and Saka.
@godlovesyou1995
@godlovesyou1995 Ай бұрын
Saka is fouled a lot more. 6 times per yellow last season
@Salibascored
@Salibascored Ай бұрын
Jude has played in the Bundes and Laliga for 3 years, both amazing leagues but come nowhere close to the Prem, where Saka has done it for 4 years
@mattsoslatt4777
@mattsoslatt4777 Ай бұрын
Recency’s bias is Insane. Everybody knows Saka ain’t having the best of seasons yet his numbers are right there with the two and he’s been consistent for 4 years carrying arsenal
@pjjohnson1036
@pjjohnson1036 28 күн бұрын
Buvey really just playing heel on the podcast
@epicfootball123
@epicfootball123 Ай бұрын
It is sakas first season in champions league with time he will be good in champions league
@AFCbirmsy
@AFCbirmsy Ай бұрын
Just came to comment as I already know where this conversation will go before watching. Don't forget McKola said 2/3 years ago that saka was shit. Agenda never left him.
@unclebensrice4702
@unclebensrice4702 Ай бұрын
Everyone says Rory has mad takes and Adam is clueless but Buvey is the worst by a mile guy is an absolute helmet didn't make one valid point against Saka even though I agree Foden is better he's had it so much easier than Saka playing for such a great team and having his minutes constantly managed whereas Saka don't get a break . If they swapped clubs Saka would be cooking and winning leagues and Foden would be looked at as lesser of a player he is kind of carried by City's brilliance
@riaz6386
@riaz6386 17 күн бұрын
Fair play to Rory here, showed how deluded those two were..
@properchels3951
@properchels3951 Ай бұрын
Foden is better than Saka. But Adam and Buvey leaned wayyy too far anti-Saka. They talk like he’s crap. He’s not WC, but he IS very good. Also Buvey’s argument of Foden winning the treble like give me a break he’s on Pep’s City and didn’t start till this year.
@kajolo1288
@kajolo1288 25 күн бұрын
Your memory is really terrible Palmer better than Saka? 😂 and you ask which teams did Saka score against? Can you ask the same for Palmer. Foden 1 season can’t blind us all of Saka brilliance in 4 seasons
@Robmc0381
@Robmc0381 Ай бұрын
Buvey rewriting history as usual. Inter bossed the CL final and should've won it. Claiming Foden ran that final is laughable. Also Adam stills massively rates Rashford, means hes obviously not in any position to judge ability
@joshd171294
@joshd171294 Ай бұрын
Obviously Foden is top. Palmer is technically better than Saka but Saka has been around for longer so gotta put him #2 for now
@Shtooopid731
@Shtooopid731 Ай бұрын
Foden’s is a FAR more technical player and lets be honest does Saka start for Man city? I dont think so. Saka is elite i think its a conversation but the order is Foden, Saka, Palmer
@ReDav1s87
@ReDav1s87 Ай бұрын
I frankly don't give a shit seeing that I'm from the USA. But if I'm looking across the pond at the best 11 for England this season. Pickford-Trent-Stones-Guehi-White-Rice-Mainoo- Bellingham-Kane-Foden-Palmer. Imagine having Grealish and Saka as subs late in the game.
@teaonyj
@teaonyj 21 күн бұрын
I'd chuck Gordon into the mix. Stats speak for themselves
@joshhamer5076
@joshhamer5076 Ай бұрын
this season palmer has been better than saka, but you cant ignore saka previous seasons.
@plm6523
@plm6523 Ай бұрын
It's almost like Saka didnt exist before this season suddenly. Foden has been better this season for sure, no debate. Goals doesnt say everything, saka has a lot of goal contributions this season, but there is a bigger picture. Saka was phenomenal the years prior to this, but this year he has been so bland and uninteresting to watch. Everytime he gets the ball now you dont really expect anything to happen. So this season Foden and Palmer have definitely been more effective and fun to watch, but let's not pretend like Saka doesn't have a high ceiling. There is a world class player in him, and he is undoubtedly on the same level as Foden and Palmer on his day. He is also being played in a different way to the prior seasons. It says itself with his stats. Still getting a good amount of goal contributions considering how many players he has on him at all times. This season Martinelli and Saka have gotten locked down because they were the key to consistently getting through into the final third, this season Arsenal rely on other methods to break through. Using the brain and thinking of the bigger picture helps sometimes
@void0350
@void0350 20 күн бұрын
Bukayo Saka doenst influence games they say , yet the majority of our attacks are on his side. Its obvious Saka is on a complete different spectrum to those both, he is not an actor he is a baller. Give him the ball and something good will come out.
@user-gg7tn8xj3s
@user-gg7tn8xj3s 12 күн бұрын
I am a united supporter but it's offensive to put Saka in this conversation. He is guaranteed to go start for England while the other 2 may not make it, he has scored above 16 goals for the past 3 years
@JABOC158
@JABOC158 Ай бұрын
Saka has started and Foden hasn’t because city have the best squad in the world😂 pep didn’t rush him in until this season, he didn’t need to - he’s had Sane, mahrez, grealish, KDB, Bernardo etc etc.
@GrizZLyGuy
@GrizZLyGuy Ай бұрын
Cole Palmer is clear if both players. The guy is a true baller
@gbt7406
@gbt7406 Ай бұрын
Saka scores constantly against the big prem teams. Excluding City he has scored multiple goals against all the big teams.
@ozicarmen5527
@ozicarmen5527 6 күн бұрын
saka is burnt out mate. His output is falling off the cliff at end of the season especially in second half of games these day. He does the what the best wingers do and also what best rigth backs do at the same time in 60-70 matches. My god arteta get a rigth winger next season and cut him some slack mate. If this goes on he will be 70 years old in his 30s.
@sydneyfrench13
@sydneyfrench13 Ай бұрын
Bruh i can’t stress how clear it is that FODEN is at the top and PEN PALMER is at the very bottom
@AJ1096NG
@AJ1096NG 25 күн бұрын
Rory Jennings is outrightly has more football knowledge than these clowns. Would both of them had argued that because Tottenham had won nothing thtoughout Harry Kane's stint at the club diminished his talent or quality. Saka & Palmer have got bigger heart to carry their teams irrespective of level of talents they are playing with, Foden is a more skillful than Saka but that doesn't make him the David Silva, Auero, Yaya Toure and KDB of Man City.
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