Phil Heath(2013) vs Derek Lunsford(2023)

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@jiwanlama2780
@jiwanlama2780 11 ай бұрын
Phil makes him look like he belongs in the 2nd call-out.
@NattyGainz
@NattyGainz 11 ай бұрын
😂😂 so true
@anthonymancuso5554
@anthonymancuso5554 11 ай бұрын
Lol exactly
@d_classified6433
@d_classified6433 11 ай бұрын
Perfectly said.
@vittoriofoglia9045
@vittoriofoglia9045 11 ай бұрын
Phil Number One derek 3
@Adlata
@Adlata 11 ай бұрын
BRUTAL! peak Phil makes Derek Lunsford look like a child that has never lifted. 1999 NPC Rich Piana looked better than lundsford and he couldn't win to get a pro card because there was mountains of talent back then in freakin' amateurs , lol imagine the rage Kai Greene is feeling not winning the O because his era was stacked and seeing small oil filled 212'ers winning in the weakest era
@WinstonWolfe21
@WinstonWolfe21 11 ай бұрын
Lol Phil Heath is in a whole different class than Lunsford imo
@anne-kathrins2721
@anne-kathrins2721 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Derek destroys him everywhere.
@surferxblood
@surferxblood 11 ай бұрын
Max is blind as a bat dude. Or retarded AF.
@freshstart2531
@freshstart2531 11 ай бұрын
​@@anne-kathrins2721bruh
@ethangilworth7891
@ethangilworth7891 11 ай бұрын
@@anne-kathrins2721everywhere except the arms, legs, shoulders, arms, back, chest, and conditioning! Total domination by Derek!
@anne-kathrins2721
@anne-kathrins2721 11 ай бұрын
​@@ethangilworth7891😂😂😂 Phil ist so overrated. Looks like a tiny baby. So thin.
@fad2679
@fad2679 11 ай бұрын
Phil blows him out of the water
@justforfun1647
@justforfun1647 11 ай бұрын
9:20 I was thinking about subscribing this guy, but not now, why these people chose to be a fool I'll never understand
@Adlata
@Adlata 11 ай бұрын
@@justforfun1647 hes like nicks strength and fence sitting, deliberately acting dumb to increase views and engagement
@thegee001ify
@thegee001ify 11 ай бұрын
This is like amateur vs pro. Phil wipes the floor with him.
@Imperialbbuilding
@Imperialbbuilding 11 ай бұрын
Yet if we went back to when Phil was dominant, the majority of you hated Phil hahaha
@liam3104
@liam3104 11 ай бұрын
@@Imperialbbuilding yea due to his personality etc. hes still one of the best bbs ever
@MikeG82
@MikeG82 11 ай бұрын
@@Imperialbbuilding people rooted for Ronnie to lose too
@thegee001ify
@thegee001ify 11 ай бұрын
@@Imperialbbuilding what a generalisation.
@hansoloburger2322
@hansoloburger2322 10 ай бұрын
@@liam3104no due to people like you watching chosen clips to make him look bad
@jf8643
@jf8643 11 ай бұрын
Phil makes Derek look like an oiled up amateur. 😂
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
💯 .. Derek is only SYNTHOL
@DrRodox.
@DrRodox. 11 ай бұрын
Take a moment to recognize what a proper stage and light Mr O had back then.
@vidrepublik23
@vidrepublik23 11 ай бұрын
Right.
@ShannonThwaites
@ShannonThwaites 11 ай бұрын
Maybe now all the Phil Heath haters can see just how good he really was! Shame they didn't appreciate what they were witnessing at the time.
@michaelbassey1993
@michaelbassey1993 11 ай бұрын
I suppose his personality is what some didn't like, but all agreed (even back then) that his physique was pure awesomeness.
@jasonchapman9436
@jasonchapman9436 11 ай бұрын
Phil was on another level. He really had no rival. At least Ronnie had Jay and Yates had the list of 90s competition.
@LeWacoKid
@LeWacoKid 11 ай бұрын
He did have a bubblegut bonanza at the end.
@ShannonThwaites
@ShannonThwaites 11 ай бұрын
@@jasonchapman9436 Phil had Kai, that was one of the biggest rivalries in bodybuilding history
@samueltaylor9935
@samueltaylor9935 11 ай бұрын
Bro what? Phil vs Kai???@@jasonchapman9436
@Matstarx25
@Matstarx25 11 ай бұрын
Phil looks like Derek on steroids. Phil is just on another level. Frame is garbage, but his muscle building genetics are out of this world.
@zenrhys589
@zenrhys589 11 ай бұрын
"Garbage" is insane to say to a 7x olympia champ
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
💯
@Mac-pluto
@Mac-pluto 11 ай бұрын
In no world would I rather have Derek’s frame over Phil’s
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 11 ай бұрын
@@Mac-plutoExactly, if Phil’s frame is garbage then Dereks frame is that of a rat raised on scraps on a garbage tip.
@2RBeast
@2RBeast 11 ай бұрын
Lol Phil’s frame is literally the best . Dude is symmetrical to the T
@boxingfan2281
@boxingfan2281 11 ай бұрын
I just can't get my head around as to why Derek's biceps and triceps look so watery. Seems to have very little detail.
@thurguud
@thurguud 11 ай бұрын
Like the arms of the late Rich Pianna. 100% synthol not a single doubt in my mind
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
@@thurguud100% agreed
@MyAuraMyEraMyMe
@MyAuraMyEraMyMe 11 ай бұрын
@@thurguudyup
@gameurai5701
@gameurai5701 11 ай бұрын
@@thurguud I think it's nolitol because it looks like pure water spill, synthol looks different. Still a foreign substance that should be penalized equally, so it doesn't even matter what it is.
@stacyhaguewood
@stacyhaguewood 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, Phil is just blowing Derek away
@blinzi69
@blinzi69 11 ай бұрын
shows u how insane prime heath looked like god damn… especially 2013 was out of this world
@Adlata
@Adlata 11 ай бұрын
not nessereserally, it shows how pathetic 2023 is with zero depth, Hadi should've won
@L-deSdel
@L-deSdel 11 ай бұрын
phil destroys him in every single pose
@deankilminster5430
@deankilminster5430 11 ай бұрын
He wins for sure, but not destroys in every single pose. That’s just a ridiculous statement. There are poses where it’s actually pretty close. It’s just that Phil wins more of them.
@rpk1878
@rpk1878 11 ай бұрын
@@deankilminster5430 phil destroys him in every single pose
@stephenbanks5860
@stephenbanks5860 11 ай бұрын
No, not every pose!
@L-deSdel
@L-deSdel 11 ай бұрын
@@stephenbanks5860 tell me one pose dereck wins
@michaelbassey1993
@michaelbassey1993 11 ай бұрын
@@deankilminster5430 Phil beats him in every pose.
@TJay96
@TJay96 11 ай бұрын
Phil could’ve made a comeback and would’ve won this Olympia.
@thegoat8447
@thegoat8447 11 ай бұрын
Not based on the last Phil we saw
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
💯
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel 11 ай бұрын
Bubbleguts are banned on Olympia nowadays. If he was in his 2013 shape, then he would have won without even flexing his muscles.
@Jay-js5ik
@Jay-js5ik 11 ай бұрын
@@MarlonDeanMusicChannel He got multiple hernias fixed and showed his abs recently and his stomach was completely flat. Obviously the bigger he gets the more chance his stomach is going to be bubbling out but I think he’d probably remedy the issues. Either way I doubt we’ll ever see him compete again. Sadly.
@jf8643
@jf8643 11 ай бұрын
@@thegoat8447 a one legged Phil can beat this 5'4" full of oil barrel.
@doubletapthatdotty4597
@doubletapthatdotty4597 11 ай бұрын
Actual logical pose by pose break down. Front double: Phil wins everywhere apart from width Front lat spread: Phil wins everywhere except lats Side chest: Phil wins everywhere except side leg detail Side tricep: Phil wins everywhere again(except side leg detail). Back lat spread: Phil is smoking him everywhere except glutes(genetics) Back double bicep: Phil smokes Derek everywhere except glutes again. Abs and thighs: Phil wins everywhere( it’s called an abs and thighs. Not vacuum and thighs. It’s nice to see but irrelevant to judging) Most muscular: Phil wins everywhere in any pose. Phil 8:0 Derek
@xaviervega468
@xaviervega468 10 ай бұрын
Derek wins back lat-spread. Phil wins everything else though.
@Teezy13
@Teezy13 11 ай бұрын
Dereks lack of separation in his arms and chest is so unappealing for the Mr O. His biceps look sus to me as well. They're obviously big but there is NO separation, you can hardly tell when he's flexing vs not. SEO's?
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts, biceps also look very sus
@RonaldThomas-b1t
@RonaldThomas-b1t Ай бұрын
Not good chest... def looks weak in some poses. Not good conditioning/ seperatiin from the front... lack of separation/ detail in arms even legs.... and his quads also look smaller and lost alot of size from the front.. look how much he has to flare them out to compensate... imo he's one of the worst Mr os evern
@RonaldThomas-b1t
@RonaldThomas-b1t Ай бұрын
I think u could've easily given it to hadi last year.. and I'm not even a hadi fan... Derek in all of his front poses wasn't good
@RonaldThomas-b1t
@RonaldThomas-b1t Ай бұрын
I'm not a Phil fan either and I'll tell u that he smoked Derek
@JimSib1
@JimSib1 11 ай бұрын
Phil has real muscle while Derek has balloon muscle with no density or striations. I've never seen a bodybuilder benefit from having one good body part as Derek's lats. Don Howorth had cannon ball delts but he never won a Mr. Olympia jeesh.
@danjonmills
@danjonmills 11 ай бұрын
And those lats are synthed up.
@powerofme7144
@powerofme7144 11 ай бұрын
@@danjonmillsTop of his butt too
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
@@danjonmills💯
@leccy9901
@leccy9901 11 ай бұрын
Don howorth had an amazing set of delts for his time. Wish he never retired from bodybuilding so early. He would have been even more of a legend.
@salprakash8839
@salprakash8839 11 ай бұрын
Truest statement yet 👏
@billionairebill4879
@billionairebill4879 11 ай бұрын
Derick looks like playdough compared to the Gift
@Tyl1000
@Tyl1000 11 ай бұрын
Phil absolutely destroys him in the back double it’s not even close.
@RhetoricalMuse
@RhetoricalMuse 11 ай бұрын
Derek has width and better legs. The rest is Phil.
@medicinein3mins480
@medicinein3mins480 11 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalMuseDerek has the width and what? Are you blind? Phil’s legs are actually one of the best in the last decade
@xGotDemFragzJRx
@xGotDemFragzJRx 11 ай бұрын
@@medicinein3mins480dereks legs are actually better in these pictures from the back and side, Phil’s are better from the front but to be fair the front shots of Derek are bad pictures. All of Phil’s pictures are crisp with a completely black backdrop. The back double is absolutely close, and while Phil wins, to say it’s not close is just exaggerating
@ImonFire...
@ImonFire... 11 ай бұрын
have u taken ur mental mentainance phils ??? 🤣🤣🤣
@GustavoHenrique-qi8qs
@GustavoHenrique-qi8qs 11 ай бұрын
Only human being that could defeat Phil Heath or came close is the one and only Ronnie Coleman.
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel 11 ай бұрын
Flex in his prime, Kevin in his prime, Dorian. Probably Shawn Ray.
@kevinreilly7924
@kevinreilly7924 11 ай бұрын
Don’t sleep on 2009, 2006 and 2001 Cutler boys
@stephenbanks5860
@stephenbanks5860 11 ай бұрын
Coleman BEATS him.
@Liam.2000
@Liam.2000 11 ай бұрын
@@stephenbanks5860read the comment again
@kinggeorge90
@kinggeorge90 11 ай бұрын
@@MarlonDeanMusicChannel LOL. None of those guys beats him. This version of Phil only loses to Ronnie Coleman and maybe Dorian Yates. That's it.
@zarbon700
@zarbon700 11 ай бұрын
I can't understand how Derek won. Derek was too soft and lacking detail in the front to dethrone the current Mr. Olympia.
@Shawn-1971
@Shawn-1971 11 ай бұрын
From the front he was not in shape. I thought Hadi won but it's done now.
@MrCrisisZ
@MrCrisisZ 11 ай бұрын
Love handles on Hadi with the wider waist and blocky Delts cost him the show.
@Thinkpol2000
@Thinkpol2000 11 ай бұрын
#politics
@DiJACKER
@DiJACKER 11 ай бұрын
Politics... Hadi is Iranian...
@MrCrisisZ
@MrCrisisZ 11 ай бұрын
@@DiJACKER If it was Politics then why did the Iranian beat the American last year? They just decided to make it political this year but last year was authentic? nah.. blocky square delts and love handles lost Hadi the show.
@adamheeley285
@adamheeley285 11 ай бұрын
Fun video. I honestly can't see anyone beating Phil for long time, possibly decades. His insertions, fullness and definition are on another level.
@defaultdefault812
@defaultdefault812 10 ай бұрын
He's retired...
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 10 ай бұрын
He means in legitimately being better. Ronnie IMO is better he has most of the shape with a lot more size, better shape in some areas, lil worse in others, but the bone structure, not even close. Phil being #2 overall physique is fair though. It's hard for guys to get big and have that kind of shape and definition to the muscle. It takes very good muscle bellies and skin quality. Ronnie and Phil are a step ahead. @@defaultdefault812
@zoomingby
@zoomingby 11 ай бұрын
1:15 Seeing these two side by side, just shows you how much more aesthetic Phil's physique is. I'm not even a Heath fan, but you'd have to be blind to say Derek looks better. His structure can't hold a candle to Heath.
@cyathoris7530
@cyathoris7530 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Derek could put up a much better fight if he didn’t look so wet and oily in his quads. Phil’s squads look so dry and lean comparatively. Phil has a longer mid section too so he doesn’t look so short a blocky like Derek. I reckon Derek should’ve stayed in the 212
@Adlata
@Adlata 11 ай бұрын
@@cyathoris7530 but without seo oil Lunsford wouldn't place. Hadi and Phil make him look like a 212'er
@davidm4773
@davidm4773 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see this video! But this is hardly competitive. Phil absolutely wrecks Derek. I think any Olympia winning version of Phil would beat this version of Derek, hands down. It's still fun to compare though!
@Максим-д2д9ъ
@Максим-д2д9ъ 11 ай бұрын
Derek has no legs, zero cales, zero arms... It's only back. Phill is perfection
@NicksFitnessYT
@NicksFitnessYT 11 ай бұрын
Derek's legs from the side and back are arguably the best in the world right now, it's only from the front that they're weak (like Nick Walker)
@carlosgalaviz349
@carlosgalaviz349 11 ай бұрын
@@NicksFitnessYTnick walker and ramy have better side and back legs
@stephenbanks5860
@stephenbanks5860 11 ай бұрын
Phil did not have a perfect physique.
@djo-dji6018
@djo-dji6018 11 ай бұрын
Heat had a small frame with narrow lats, that alone makes him far from perfect.
@doubletapthatdotty4597
@doubletapthatdotty4597 11 ай бұрын
Derek loses every single shot.
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel 11 ай бұрын
Well, when Derek does the vacuuming, he wins abs and thighs IMO. But that's it.
@doubletapthatdotty4597
@doubletapthatdotty4597 11 ай бұрын
@@MarlonDeanMusicChannel it’s called ABs and thighs. Not VACCUM and thighs. Phil wins every pose if we’re being objective
@michaelbassey1993
@michaelbassey1993 11 ай бұрын
I agree, Phil won every pose....amazing to see, really.
@sheriffking3055
@sheriffking3055 11 ай бұрын
The only person beating Phil 2013 is Prime Ronnie
@jamproject9
@jamproject9 11 ай бұрын
And not surprising , Mr 3d smashes Mr flat as a pancake in every way. And we ain’t even got to the part of how shortDerek looks . Here’s to hoping the Olympia redeems itself next year.
@SXMSXTXN999
@SXMSXTXN999 11 ай бұрын
im still in disbelief man dereks BDB is insane but everything else is kinda meh…he really looked much better in the training videos leading to the O…i also hope they make it right next year
@Xilo29
@Xilo29 11 ай бұрын
@@SXMSXTXN999 how am i the only person who thinks his fdb looks weird... the propotions are simply off for me.
@worldsbuffestloremaster
@worldsbuffestloremaster 11 ай бұрын
Phil DESTROYS Derek. Derek winning the O this year was debatable, but people are treating him like he's some unstoppable force. He has A LOT of work to put in before he can be compared to Phil. He is nowhere near Phil.
@eustacebagge3869
@eustacebagge3869 11 ай бұрын
People that see Derek as an unstoppable force are just butthurt about Hadi being superior, so their cognitive dissonance elevates Derek to God level. Mostly just American supremacists, dishonest Christians (oxymoron) and (()) people.
@carlosgalaviz349
@carlosgalaviz349 11 ай бұрын
Who the hell is Derrick
@anushiladey7427
@anushiladey7427 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a comparison video of Jay Cutler and Derek ?
@WinstonWolfe21
@WinstonWolfe21 11 ай бұрын
Derek has weak arms, legs and chest compared to Phil and Derek lacks the ab development of Hadi. I don’t get all the hoopla for Derek but he’s a good ambassador for the sport
@JACKPOTTT777
@JACKPOTTT777 11 ай бұрын
He fuckin lacks everything
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 11 ай бұрын
Derek is phenomenal
@benjyperez5606
@benjyperez5606 11 ай бұрын
Phil’s wins every pose. Especially the back poses.
@michaelbassey1993
@michaelbassey1993 11 ай бұрын
Ironically, the back poses are where Dereck puts up a good fight, but Phil win those regardless.
@KvancOkten
@KvancOkten 11 ай бұрын
Dude is the king of comparisons.
@clinteastwood7780
@clinteastwood7780 11 ай бұрын
People need to fking put some respect on Phils name. The only bodybuilders that could win over Phil 2013 is maybe Prime Dorian Ronnie or Jay.
@schmusolini1262
@schmusolini1262 11 ай бұрын
I love how everyone hated Phil when he was the reigning champ and now everyone praises him and hates the new one.
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
There is really nothing about Derek’s physique i can appreciate!
@joshfontaine8546
@joshfontaine8546 11 ай бұрын
You really can’t appreciate his back? Phil wins handedly but cmon now
@anne-kathrins2721
@anne-kathrins2721 11 ай бұрын
cocaine?
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam 11 ай бұрын
Are you a butthurt Iranian larping as Polak?
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
@@joshfontaine8546 yeah he has a wide back but with those poor arms, chest and abs it means nothing
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
@@anne-kathrins2721 sounds great
@Walkerbjj
@Walkerbjj 11 ай бұрын
2011 Phil Heath is my alltime fav rear double bicep. Phil thinks he looked his best in 2013. There's something about his 2011 that had a crazy pop to it. I was 4th row at the Olympia that year so maybe i'm biased.
@Psychedelic430
@Psychedelic430 11 ай бұрын
yeap 2011 was his best.
@ChanceBloodstoner
@ChanceBloodstoner 11 ай бұрын
Why does Derek have no detail in his arms. Looks like balloons
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
100% synthol i have no doubt
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
@@bartekszymczyk7554💯
@SHADOWNINE79
@SHADOWNINE79 3 ай бұрын
Apparently, those are Mr. olympia 2023 winner arms
@jacobgarza5806
@jacobgarza5806 11 ай бұрын
This is the comparison I’ve been waiting for
@Nonixification
@Nonixification 11 ай бұрын
Phil was something else
@Thephysiqueconsultants
@Thephysiqueconsultants 11 ай бұрын
I like this channel and the commentary🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@davidselawsky6620
@davidselawsky6620 11 ай бұрын
Heath vs Hadi do that next
@charlesfranklin2730
@charlesfranklin2730 11 ай бұрын
Awesome work MM. Just wondering....when you put up the side by side comparisons do you always make sure that they are at true heights. I really appreciate the effort you make visually. Your insights are great also.
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 11 ай бұрын
yes, Phil is 2" taller than Derek
@carl8752
@carl8752 11 ай бұрын
He tries to make them of proper height but its difficult given alotta factors. Camera angles, tilting to the side/back/forward, legs etc He does well though imo
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 9 ай бұрын
Phil is 5'9 and Derek is 5'5. You can see them side by side backstage if you google search. Phil dwarfed him @@Simon-talks
@mikebird5148
@mikebird5148 11 ай бұрын
Phil is just a freaking genetic wonder.....nobody in history has had his crazy round freakish muscle bellies and insertions.
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel 11 ай бұрын
Ronnie did.
@Swolecat17
@Swolecat17 11 ай бұрын
Kevin Levrone
@talion7268
@talion7268 11 ай бұрын
​@@Swolecat17kevin levrone probably the closest one of all but still not on phil's level
@Adlata
@Adlata 11 ай бұрын
lunsford wins the front double oil pose! 2023 bb is embarrassing
@defaultdefault812
@defaultdefault812 10 ай бұрын
Coleman was much more freaky.
@JoseMiguel96491
@JoseMiguel96491 11 ай бұрын
Now not are nading to beat Phil Phil is the perfect proportions In a extreme level
@kanuuker
@kanuuker 11 ай бұрын
Phil looks like he's in an entirely different class. There's just no comparison. This really showcases how weak Derek is relatively speaking. Once Samson can bring the total package, he's going to destroy everyone else just like Phil.
@francisquesada9256
@francisquesada9256 11 ай бұрын
Haha.. not gonna happen Samson's coach is not a fanatic of ultra condition like Phil 😊
@slonedouget9285
@slonedouget9285 11 ай бұрын
Phil wins every shot
@A-11sr
@A-11sr 11 ай бұрын
Heath wins even his weakest poses... that says it all.
@bigmbable
@bigmbable 11 ай бұрын
I don’t usually complain about the sizing but Derek isn’t anywhere near that tall, like 3” lower.
@RomanShchekin
@RomanShchekin 11 ай бұрын
Bro, that's like torturing a puppy, painful to watch
@SXMSXTXN999
@SXMSXTXN999 11 ай бұрын
ayoooo 😂😂😂
@johandaubigne8883
@johandaubigne8883 11 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to lisening to your analysis.
@doublem1975x
@doublem1975x 11 ай бұрын
Phil wins every pose.
@tylerphilco
@tylerphilco 11 ай бұрын
Derek has that vacuum and the beefy lats. Phil has everything else. Phil's arms look like what you would draw on a piece of art if you could make every line perfect and defined. Derek just has big arms.
@MarkCroucherRC4fun
@MarkCroucherRC4fun 11 ай бұрын
Omg😅😅😅 thaws so funny the sport has gone backwards.
@DrewPWebos
@DrewPWebos 11 ай бұрын
Yea, phil is on another level for sure. Is arms alone 😲
@jriv75
@jriv75 11 ай бұрын
Phil beat him in every shot. Including rear double.
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 11 ай бұрын
Derek won both back poses and the ab and thigh
@chrysio7
@chrysio7 11 ай бұрын
​@@Simon-talksin your opinion
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 11 ай бұрын
@@chrysio7 facts
@ihavewaited90daystochangem51
@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 11 ай бұрын
​@@Simon-talks claiming your opinion as fact is some beta as fuck behaviour
@Narsimha_thapa_official
@Narsimha_thapa_official 10 ай бұрын
Phil won every pose with full dominance. Even the abs pose
@ElspethCatSanctuary
@ElspethCatSanctuary 11 ай бұрын
Derek's lats are filled with synthol. That's why they look so ridiculous and unnatural lol.
@howy3333
@howy3333 11 ай бұрын
Cool comparison. Like seeing 2 eras...
@黃晨傑-w3m
@黃晨傑-w3m 11 ай бұрын
lllllooooo .... Even 1997 Dorian Yates would smoking 2023 Oil Lunsford easily ….....
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
💯
@duanefryberger2007
@duanefryberger2007 11 ай бұрын
Phil Heath quads and calves in the front shot is light years better with his perfect looking arms!
@kukkaro7749
@kukkaro7749 11 ай бұрын
This is like boys vs men
@ignaciohayabusa8663
@ignaciohayabusa8663 11 ай бұрын
Awesome comparison as usual. This time though, it's all Phil Heath, Lunsford's got some great parts, but none so overwhelming to close the door on Phil. 2013 Phil Heath would have won this year's O in pre judging already.
@diegohalter602
@diegohalter602 11 ай бұрын
Really wanted to see Ramon Dino comparison with Phil Heath, I think Ramon would be an amazing open BB.
@keithdefreitas3399
@keithdefreitas3399 11 ай бұрын
Yes he would but he is not even in the same stratosphere as Phil Here.
@oo-cv6ug
@oo-cv6ug 10 ай бұрын
The competitor with the least number of flaws, in their physique, will win the contest. Open Olympia contests, are usually won from the back poses.
@surferxblood
@surferxblood 11 ай бұрын
You need to get your eyes 👀 checked. Cause you are either blind or a straight up racist. This comparison was a Mr. O 7x Champion vs a 1x 212 Champion which should of never 👎 won the Mr. O.
@iancampbell2295
@iancampbell2295 10 ай бұрын
One thing Phil has in abundance, muscle separation! Derek is seriously smooth compared to Phil in EVERY shot ! It isn't even close If this was live it would look even worse!
@DeinosAres
@DeinosAres 11 ай бұрын
Phil from 2013 destroys everyone.
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel
@MarlonDeanMusicChannel 11 ай бұрын
Even Ronnie 1998-1999??? Don't make me laugh.
@TheSolarium18
@TheSolarium18 11 ай бұрын
DEREK HAS NOT A BETTER MIDSECTION THAN PHIL!! he just can do a vacuum that’s something different
@roblockhart8410
@roblockhart8410 11 ай бұрын
Phil is further back in the photos. Phil would absolutely crush Derek. Still could
@The_MEMEphis
@The_MEMEphis 11 ай бұрын
Being further back doesn't do anything he'd just be bigger we're judging on relative size of their body being close or far away doesn't change anything he'd just be taller looking
@roblockhart8410
@roblockhart8410 11 ай бұрын
@@The_MEMEphis if one is further back you can’t judge properly. Especially on video or pictures
@The_MEMEphis
@The_MEMEphis 11 ай бұрын
@@roblockhart8410 I'm aware but the actual structure of their muscles is still going to look the same in a side by side their height doesn't matter and that's all that changing how close or far away in a photo is going to affect making the two the same height is actually better because allows you to actually judge their muscles and not just who's a bigger person
@roblockhart8410
@roblockhart8410 11 ай бұрын
@@The_MEMEphis that’s completely wrong
@pricerowland
@pricerowland 11 ай бұрын
Derek's no slouch, Phil is just one of the best bodybuilders to ever live. It will be interesting to see how he evolves as a bodybuilder, since he likely has a few more years.
@goo5976
@goo5976 11 ай бұрын
Not even the same species
@bigtmk5015
@bigtmk5015 11 ай бұрын
The more pictures I see of Derek, the more I’m convinced he was 3rd at best.
@euron1361
@euron1361 11 ай бұрын
This isn't even fair lol
@mick998r
@mick998r 11 ай бұрын
Landlord's raxed pose looks absolutely ridiculous. Love Heath's ❤️
@davidselawsky6620
@davidselawsky6620 11 ай бұрын
Lol nothing pops on Dereks crab. Washed, smooth
@bartekszymczyk7554
@bartekszymczyk7554 11 ай бұрын
Dereks most muscular is indeed laughable with those silly babyarms and chest
@keithdefreitas3399
@keithdefreitas3399 11 ай бұрын
Bro, wtf are you looking at? Phil DESTROYS Derek in the RDB! And can we stop paying so much attention to Derek’s glutes. Yes he has amazing glutes but it’s not a Glute contest. You are comparing Derek to a 7 time Mr. Olympia and probably the 2nd or 3rd best BB of all time and Derek didn’t even beat Hadi! Yeah the shady judges gave it to Derek but Hadi is complete everywhere and Derek is not. Derek’s arms look like water balloons.
@chadgraber4575
@chadgraber4575 11 ай бұрын
Remember when people thought Brandon was a weak Mr. O?? Lol
@scottmitchell1974
@scottmitchell1974 11 ай бұрын
Right! I long for the days of Phil Heath.
@chadgraber4575
@chadgraber4575 11 ай бұрын
@@scottmitchell1974 2011 was damn near perfection.
@Schlook
@Schlook 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for this comparision, really nice breakdown! For me it just comes down to, even though we can separate muscular qualities and conditioning, in the end it comes down to the holistic aesthetic effect, and this is where Phil absolutely just blows Lunsford out of the water. It's weird but even after seeing and hearing this breakdown I think Phil just have a better superhero look to him than Lunsford. I never would thought I would bring Phils name up when it comes to aesthetics though, lol. But in this comparison it becomes very obvious that there is a difference.
@doublem1975x
@doublem1975x 11 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how many steps forward Derek takes on stage he's getting destroyed.
@antonhallergren588
@antonhallergren588 11 ай бұрын
Phil wins every single pose. Putting anyone except Ronnie against a 2013 Phil is like watching an Isis beheading compilation. It's that much of a slaughterfest.
@michaelbassey1993
@michaelbassey1993 11 ай бұрын
Damn bro!....ISIS beheading?? Couldn’t you pick another (less brutal) analogy??....smh.
@antonhallergren588
@antonhallergren588 11 ай бұрын
@@michaelbassey1993 nah. It is that brutal to be compared to Phil unless you're say Ronnie or Dorian maybe.
@killerkendro
@killerkendro 11 ай бұрын
Arnold, Dorian, Ronnie and Phil are unbeatable by anyone else but each other. The peaks of their eras
@jriv75
@jriv75 11 ай бұрын
Man, how did Phil not win 10 in a row??? And ironically, because of his abs.
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 11 ай бұрын
because eventually his bubble gut ended up being greater circumference than his shoulders lol
@curtharakaly4620
@curtharakaly4620 11 ай бұрын
​@@Simon-talksDerek's waistnis wider than Phils....stop sucking Derek off every chance you can. The dude is overrated and filled with site injection everywhere. Water balloon arms, tennis balls in his lats, washed out midsection before 30 and flat no striated chest. The dude only has a back and thats it. Everything else is mid at best
@MARZOSIRUS
@MARZOSIRUS 11 ай бұрын
Phil could have but like many have said his gut got out of control.
@vidrepublik23
@vidrepublik23 11 ай бұрын
In retrospective Phil was actually really gifted.
@davidselawsky6620
@davidselawsky6620 11 ай бұрын
Dereks abs are terrible
@gangsterSoup
@gangsterSoup 11 ай бұрын
Great analysis 👍👍👍
@bobbyknox9258
@bobbyknox9258 11 ай бұрын
Pointless vid Mark. I like Derek and all as a person. But at this stage of his career he's not even in the same realm as Phil. Hadi should of won this year. We all know why he didn't.
@SXMSXTXN999
@SXMSXTXN999 11 ай бұрын
heist of the decade indeed
@bill7314
@bill7314 11 ай бұрын
I was just thinking this year how far downhill the Olympia has gone over the last 10 years. And even then it was going down hill from the prior 10 years.
@tixodioktisdeviant46
@tixodioktisdeviant46 11 ай бұрын
I got to give it to Derek, from the back he is very good, but even in those back shots, Phil is just too clean. Separation, density, muscularity, bubbly muscle and a balanced lower to upper body. He is hard to beat, if your name is not Ronnie.
@michaelbassey1993
@michaelbassey1993 11 ай бұрын
my sentiments exactly.....
@liam3104
@liam3104 11 ай бұрын
i think Phil heath and Ronnie are actually pretty close imo. Ronnie would probably win but i think Phil Heath is the only guy who is close
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 10 ай бұрын
Ronnie has similar shape and 3d thickness, better some areas, worse others, but he just has it on a MUCH better skeleton.@@liam3104
@colethomson7267
@colethomson7267 11 ай бұрын
With the exception of Phil Heath the physiques since the 90s have declined steadily
@lgnaturopata9184
@lgnaturopata9184 11 ай бұрын
Derek is a dwarf.
@ronsenyor5996
@ronsenyor5996 11 ай бұрын
Phils shit is crazy omg
@nicholaswoods4055
@nicholaswoods4055 11 ай бұрын
Derek “the synthol” lunsford
@joebananas1088
@joebananas1088 11 ай бұрын
💯
@recontv6276
@recontv6276 11 ай бұрын
holy hit Phil's waist is smaller than Derek's in the back double bi
@jackcunningham3401
@jackcunningham3401 11 ай бұрын
Also a reminder that height is important. Just makes phils legs look so much better.
@theblackhammer4344
@theblackhammer4344 11 ай бұрын
No comparison. The Gift 2011 version sits in the top 5 greatest ever.
@davidselawsky6620
@davidselawsky6620 11 ай бұрын
Width goes to derek bc he injects fn oil baby please in his lats.
@SXMSXTXN999
@SXMSXTXN999 11 ай бұрын
oilieeees baby pleeeeas
@davidselawsky6620
@davidselawsky6620 11 ай бұрын
@@SXMSXTXN999 hahaha! Guys a damn cheat.
@simondg42
@simondg42 11 ай бұрын
Phil is untouchable He was the best of all time !!!💪🏼
@paulcox2447
@paulcox2447 10 ай бұрын
2nd ;)
@joeglue
@joeglue 11 ай бұрын
Stop it😂
@TillThenPlease
@TillThenPlease 11 ай бұрын
Always love a good video of the Doctor. Marx Max Muscle always coming through!
@joshuaclark1930
@joshuaclark1930 11 ай бұрын
Derek is another in a series of one and done Olympians, with the exception being that all the other competitors just suck... which they kind of do... except Jacked and Dauda, but they are having thick skin issues... hoping Jacked takes the entire year off, to just add size... Dauda has anounced he's doing the Arnold, so he will not win the Olympia next year...
@Thelast1leftNOW
@Thelast1leftNOW 11 ай бұрын
Nah man he's golden boy. Watch, they're going to go back to the "you gotta knock out the champion" now that he's in
@stevegritty
@stevegritty 9 ай бұрын
Phil won every shot.
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