What Is Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

Are you living with a Narcissist? Find out all about Narcissistic Personality Disorder on Dr. Phil’s new mental health podcast series, “Phil in the Blanks: Toxic Personalities in the Real World.”
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[@colleenshea2293]

All true. But the narcissist learns to "pretend" empathy and the right things to say but their expression is not authentic.

[@Itsme-jv4cd]

So true! It's another way they manipulate people.

[@djondjon]

Exactly. Narcissists I have known have been intelligent enough to know what words to say, what actions to take, etc to mimic a wonderful person. Key word: mimic. Then once they hook a person in, their real self begins to show more and more (unless maybe they want something from that person. Then they can keep covering up).

[@JL-zn7me]

Absolutely!!!! There is zero sincerity in what they’re saying and it’s obvious.

[@agray7474]

So true

[@jamesmcginn8874]

yes--just like my now ex--she would say this every day---i love you to the moon and back---lies--all lies

[@kimcissell1905]

Never challenge them. They retaliate. Do not point out their flaws. Be prepared for rage.

[@DKSE123]

You also need to prepare for them playing their extremely arrogant queer people bullshit

[@noel7777noel]

A narcissist being "over dramatic" is called lying. They are incapable of speaking frankly. Their loud is lying. The narcissist doesn't listen to votes. "Grandstanding" is not remotely the same definition as over dramatic. One is lying, the other is not. The loud "grandstander" is right. He is quality. He will stand up for himself. A narcissist doesn't grandstand, but is over reacting. A reactionary person. Opposite of a liberal. One is luxury and one is quality.

[@Ray-vq2jc]

Your wrong, I have seen them get a old fashion ass whipping and most actually change but not all.

[@sandrastroming]

Exactly!!!

[@Ray-vq2jc]

Stand up to them and they back down almost every time , there cowards.

[@tmyoshimura621]

“The narcissist learns to mimic empathy.” Wow. That rings profoundly.

[@manehellalerotholi3312]

They mimic empathy when they want supply😂😂

[@TruthIris]

“They don’t read the room”. So true. 🤦‍♀️

[@Ban_Usury_Worldwide]

Ya this one really got me.

[@sheiladay365]

They will take your life if you let them. Run and don't look back.

[@amazonqueen5694]

they want to be right so bad there left arm falls off

[@SN-bl6xm]

My narc siblings killed my dad. No jail for them, because they manipulated the police. And since then they are trying to destroy me with terrible smear campaigns. I know, they would also kill me, if they could.

[@Itsme-jv4cd]

Yes, run... the sooner the better. The longer you stay the more enmeshed your lives get and the harder it is to leave.

[@Itsme-jv4cd]

@@amazonqueen5694 Yes, they always want to be right and always want to win. Everything has to go their way.

[@Itsme-jv4cd]

@@SN-bl6xm They can be dangerous. It's disgusting that there are naive therapists out there that say narcissists aren't dangerous. A lack of empathy, and feeling entitled doesn't make anyone immune to murder. If a therapist hasn't experienced narcissistic rage then they better well learn about it. Dr. Ramani has an excellent video that she put out today ( Oct.30) on Narcissism and Domestic Violence . I would encourage everyone to watch it and send it on to anyone that could benefit from it. Stay safe.

[@jackblack3718]

Telling a narcissist what you really feel and calling them out can be cathartic for you if you don't let them overwhelm or gaslight you, but it certainly won't cause them to change. The best way to deal with a narcissist in your life is to cut them out of it completely.

[@walliegoolsby5389]

I had enough of my spouse and he is now my X spouse.

[@kristieingram8835]

AMEN ON THE LEAVING THEM !!

[@malyssatfarruggio9100]

Yes! I am looking for an attorney, it’s hard though I do not have the funds to get a real lawyer like Rebecca Zung. You are one hundred percent! Stay away from the narcissistic and if you wind up getting married to one, get out quickly. I’m glad you are now free from your X. Some day I’ll be free as well.

[@missym5196]

Any reaction from you gives them energy. They seem to feed off negativity and like tearing ppl down, making you the lesser person. They can suck the soul out of ppl.

[@malyssatfarruggio9100]

@Irish girl 72 I’m so sorry that we have to go through this, however our heads up high, smiles galore, we are warriors. I to am looking to divorce I’m done. We can be our own enemies, we don’t need the bully. Good luck Lady Luck and the lord prevails.

[@user-pg3mn4do7u]

Years of therapy The damage they cause is unforgivable. 18 years of yelling & screaming & abuse blaming me for everything or kids. Dont look back dont feel sorry for them. Run.

[@sparkleighann7282]

The decades of screaming... OMG..I don't know how I survived!

[@debbiec6216]

@@sparkleighann7282 how about 43 years worth but I didn't know as much as I do now , found out 2 years ago , it was horrible and dealing with it . I became my own investigator . Everything with him is extreme x Hundreds of thousands women.

[@moralizade]

I could not survive...

[@elyjane8316]

You do survive. I distansted myself and set tight boundaries. Plus years of therapy.

[@gary5481]

My personality inadvertently rubs narcissists up the wrong way. They can't control me & that freaks them out.

[@lindaalvarez9898]

It’s amazing how much a narcissist forgets when confronted.

[@rhondadurbyn6363]

So true it's like they say what are you talkin about and trying to say you're crazy

[@lesliesmart4595]

So true but it's because their trying to appear as if their hands are clean but we all know their hands are dirty. Just like their soul!

[@JL-zn7me]

It’s amazing how YOU are the one with all the issues and how they get so angry, whilst going on and on about all the “ wonderful “ things they do and have! 🙄

[@wordswordswords8203]

yes, forgets or changes history.

[@lesliel.6260]

Ya, there's many things they selectively forget!

[@jeffreyzeiss1326]

And they're never wrong and they never make mistakes

[@McgarickWAstate]

Fact!!!

[@lindarusch9660]

And they always play the victim.

[@debbiec6216]

yep that's my spouse

[@faithimanisoni3814]

Very true

[@faithimanisoni3814]

💯 True

[@megkylie798]

Well, I must say, the world of narcissism is a fascinating one. While many people are aware of overt narcissism, where individuals display grandiose behavior and seek constant attention, covert narcissism is a whole different ballgame. Covert narcissists are masters at hiding their true selves and manipulating those around them. And yes, they do have some rather peculiar habits that set them apart from the rest of us. One weird habit of covert narcissists is their constant need for validation. Unlike overt narcissists who seek validation through external means, covert narcissists have a more sneaky approach. They often fish for compliments or sympathy by subtly dropping hints or making self-deprecating comments. They feed off the reassurance and affirmation they receive from others, and this habit can become quite exhausting for those who have to constantly boost their fragile egos. Another strange habit of covert narcissists is their tendency to play the victim. They are skilled at playing the sympathy card and making others feel sorry for them. They will twist situations to make themselves appear as innocent victims, even when they are the ones who caused the problem in the first place. This habit allows them to manipulate others into feeling guilty or responsible for their actions, ultimately gaining control over their emotions and actions. Covert narcissists also have a knack for gaslighting, which is a rather disturbing habit. Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation where the narcissist distorts reality or denies certain events to make their victim doubt their own perception and sanity. They will subtly twist facts, change narratives, or even outright lie to make others question their own reality. It's an insidious habit that can leave victims feeling confused, doubting themselves, and trapped in an emotionally abusive cycle. Lastly, covert narcissists have a peculiar habit of being overly sensitive to criticism. They simply cannot handle any form of negative feedback or constructive criticism, often reacting with extreme defensiveness or passive-aggressive behavior. They have an inflated sense of self-importance and believe that they are above reproach. This habit can make it incredibly challenging to have any meaningful conversations with them or address any issues that may arise in a healthy manner. In conclusion, covert narcissism is a complex phenomenon that manifests in various weird habits. From seeking constant validation, playing the victim, gaslighting, to being overly sensitive to criticism, these individuals possess a unique set of traits that can be both intriguing and challenging to deal with. It's important to be aware of these habits so that we can recognize and protect ourselves from their manipulative tactics. Moreover, I could've gotten hurt from the impact of been cheated on. I'm glad that i got to know ASAP, through *BarryInvestigation@gmail. com* and I appreciate the content you put out for us .

[@armorvestrus4119]

What it boils down to is a real Narcissist is always ready for a good fight and they must win at all cost. And it don't matter to them how many feeling they must hurt to get what they want.

[@9582278]

OMG yes! I didn't know my sis before me was narcissistic til i started looking into it. As long as she was getting her way,everything was fine and dandy,but as soon as I put up boundaries...UGH. Her entitlement issues OMG. And what would she do after I set boundaries,she'd get mad,leave give me the silent treatment and then oh yeah she'd be right back doing the same thing I told her she wasn't allowed to do...for almost 7 yrs off and on. I finally had enough and I didn't want to have to tell her in person bcuz I knew she'd explode so I sent her a text stating that I was sorry but it was best if we kept our distance from each other,oh man she gaslit me twice in one text saying that there was something seriously wrong with your mind you need help and saying idk what I did for you to hate me so much..typical narc "forgetfulness" of course. Her ONE reply to me was always "I'M OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT I'M DOING" I agree except being old enough to know should have been to say "yeah ok it's your home and I'll respect your boundaries" but NOPE. She broke them each and every time she came back. I really do wish we could have a relationship but I decided for my own mental health to go NC. It was a hard decision,many sleepless nights before and after for sure,I'm in a better place now

[@sandrastroming]

Exactly!!!!

[@traceycrawford9938]

They are also very charming. They win people over with this. And the part about how they ‘learn to mimic empathy’ is so true! Dangerous people.

[@earthstar2493]

Dangerous

[@denisefelton5207]

Understatement of course , dangerous x infinity ♾️.

[@anitafarra8907]

Thank you, dr Phil. I wish I had known this when I married a narcissist at 18, he was 25! Spent 25 years of him telling me I was crazy. I was crazy for marrying him.

[@Michelle-Williams-Melbournite]

You poor darling.. what a A###H::: … You deserve love and respect. Stay positive & Don’t let him ever tell you your Crazy.. He is Crazy & does not deserve you. God Bless ✨🙏☘️

[@memeslove9535]

@@Michelle-Williams-Melbournite i totally agree

[@memeslove9535]

anita farra im sure You can spot one a mile away now i can

[@Itsme-jv4cd]

I know what you mean. I wish there was some program (maybe online) that young people and anyone dating could take that would teach them about signs of narcissists and toxic relationships, and also teach what a healthy relationship looks like and can be like. It would have to be something well advertised so that everyone knew it was out there. A relationship with a narcissist is not a two way street , it's a one way street it's always their way or no way.

[@caroljohns4459]

@ Anita Farrar Feel your pain, I also wish I had the understanding of a Narcissist Sociopath now when I was 17, I married a 23 year old Narcissistic Sociopath, who continued to get worse by the day, for the 41 years I was with him, trying to convince myself that it will improved when..... it did improve it saved my life when I packed 2 small suitcases and flew to the other side of the country, started intense counseling for DV, and blocked him completely out of my life! You be proud of you and never forget you are Lovable and Capable 🌺💕💯

[@nubianprince2420]

The worst thing for a narcissist is for them to realize you see them exactly for who they are. If you have a narcissist in your life don’t expose them until you’ve built up a barrier between them and yourself.

[@chrisomoding9890]

What do you do in a situation where the narcissistic is your own father?

[@nubianprince2420]

@@chrisomoding9890 make it so if they retaliate it won’t hurt you. If you not at that point yet you have to keep playing a role

[@turnbacktime65]

You are so right! I learned this the hard way. lol.

[@turnbacktime65]

@@chrisomoding9890 hi. Depends on how old you are, if you live at home. If you are on your own it’s easier to control. Do not accept money from a narc parent. It gives them control. Grey rock. Talk to them with “small talk” only. No details about your career, partner, etc. Both my parents were narcs. 😊 I left the state they lived in as soon as I could.

[@nubianprince2420]

@@turnbacktime65 I Sorry to here that. Yeah you have to move away from them and limit how they can hurt you before you allow them to realize you are gone

[@suefox6164]

My second husband was this way. I had never heard the word narcissist but I knew there was something very wrong with him. I finally left. That was eight years ago. Best thing and only thing to do with a narcissist.

[@SamSolasdonSaol]

Narcissists should NEVER be underestimated. Phil is taking a kindergarten approach to a graduate level of potential harm. These people are dangerous and hard to spot. They're true wolves in sheep's clothing. There is no such thing as a safe narcissist. Remember that. Like your life depends on it.

[@raccuia1]

Yes. One must take an assertive approach when dealing with evil. Narcissists are total evil and a soft approach will not work.

[@raccuia1]

The vulnerable or covert narcissist is the most dangerous individual on earth as they present as a sugar coated butter confection but when no one is watching they show they are really rotten meat coated in vomit and diarrhea.

[@melissacunningham3211]

Well said they truly r wolves in sheeps clothing, nothing but fraudulent liars! Pathological

[@mirandaallen5028]

Yes ma'am you are correct they are not to be taken lightly

[@corrieannfletcher5780]

When escaping a narcissist do it quietly as possible. They are very dangerous.

[@PM-tk3se]

Lord, hearing dr Phil say “they know what they’re doing” is OH so validating.

[@Michelle-Williams-Melbournite]

Totally cause they reep their seed & act all nice.. than Boom 💥 Abuse .. Very validating. Stay one step ahead mentally.. it’s him .!!!!! Remember stay safe..

[@rissyxo224]

Lmao

[@lauranordgren4391]

💕💕💕

[@Peanuts76]

Yep, definitely dangerous people to share to live with

[@andreafox3835]

I really hoped they didn't know better. :(

[@IndianSumaira]

I pray for all of us who are dealing this situation, may Lord give you strength and make you brave, independent, and give you all the love and affection that you are craving for , all the respect and good that you deserve ❤️ trust me HE is with us

[@robertmccutchan5450]

You can NEVER reason with a narcissist, and they are HIGHLY skilled at gaslighting. Being raised by a father that is a textbook narcissist, the best advice I can give is limit your contact with that person, and never try to explain your situation with reasoning. Their questions and comments are designed in such a way that whatever response you give, they can either accept it, or turn it against you. I kinda have a relationship with my father these days, but I make it a point to NOT talk to him frequently. It seems that the more I talk to him, the more he wants to start prickly conversations. If I go a couple of months between phone calls, he seem to be glad that I called, and the sensitive conversations don't seem to come up as often. If you are in a situation where you can't get away from a narcissist, like the narcissist is your boss, sometimes the best thing to do is tell the person how great they are, let them know how special they are, and then go around the corner and throw up in the trash can.

[@mariabogan943]

THIS!

[@Angel-gb9gi]

I would rather be fired or quit. Can't kiss azz to save my job.

[@geriacridge3805]

I married a narcissist. 12 years, 3 kids. I escaped but until the boys were 18 it was still hell. You can’t know, you can’t tell unless you’ve been thru it. I can spot one a mile away now. I appreciate my new life now with a loving husband more than I can say.

[@deannarounds3295]

I was with mine for 22 years and got out. Took almost a year to get away totally. Thankfully we had no children but we owned property together and the sale took several months and he felt he hadthe right to be in my life until it was sold. Once our divorce was final he called my office a lot and I refused to talk to him and left multiple angry messages. I finally got so fed up all calls went to voice mail (no caller ID then) and I screened. As soon as I heard his voice I deleted the message.

[@marisael-irtaimeh9200]

God Blessed You With A New Loving Husband 🙏

[@sharonthompson672]

Just don't waste time with a malignant narcissist, get free, and end up with a covert narcissist. 🤦

[@susandenton2132]

​@@deannarounds3295😊

[@jenniferdegenhardt-wade9989]

Wish we could talk. I can’t tell if I am living with one or if I am overreacting or overly sensitive. I am so glad you got out and are living a happy life now! It’s what we all deserve!

[@vetiver1087]

Lawyers and Judges NEED to be educated on these monsters!! There is A LOT of injustice out there which can be prevented if the courts learn and understand the signs of narcissism!

[@lilfairycupcake]

unless u truly know the individual its almost impossible to tell the difference between a narc, and a a hole. the system does not, or will it ever care.

[@KT-pe6zh]

A lot of Lawyers and Judges are narcissist themselves!!

[@michellematteson7267]

This is SO important. However like the other comment stated. It’s highly unlikely. The system is so broken and they don’t actually care even though it’s literally their job to care and make sure the children are safe and in the best situation they can be. Rarely ever plays out as such in real life. The judge only judges on what he sees in the court for the brief moments your in front of him. If you’re in court for custody in the first place means there is one parent that is unruly, illogical and unwilling to put the needs of the children first since 2 NORMAL parents can almost always work it out in mediation. The judges NEED to effing understand that and they just don’t and countless childrens lives have been ruined bc of it.

[@lilfairycupcake]

@@michellematteson7267 the judges one goal is to appease, and reward the mother for destroying the family. there is a false facade of "the children crap", but in reality he could care less, proving it by actions.

[@pattiewoods3116]

Some of them are lawyers and judges….

[@dhd-00]

Narcissism is a personality trait that is present in varying degrees in everyone. While self-love is healthy form of appreciating oneself and having a positive outlook to oneself, narcissism is having a hollow self-esteem to an extent that one is constantly looking for admiration from others. There is no harm in seeking attention and admiration from people. We are all social animals with a somewhat competitive streak which seeks possession of money, power and social status. Narcissism is considered a dark trait in the order of psychopathy and for a good reason. Narcissists (people with pathological narcissism who “if” diagnosed would be labelled as narcissistic personality disordered individuals) often exploit people for the pursuit of unwavering attention, admiration and affection. They lack real empathy. They cannot connect with people’s emotions effectively. They do not see people as human beings with feelings and separate identity. Narcissists cannot love. At least not like neurotypicals do. If they like someone, they will pursue that person by love-bombing. Once the chase phase is over, it all rapidly goes downhill. Then starts the devaluing process. They suddenly find only faults in you. You are not well-read enough, not sophisticated enough, not charming enough. Why? Because you have accepted them enough to love them unconditionally. And in a narcissist’s mind, they don’t deserve unconditional love. Anyone who loves them isn’t worth their time. This goes back to how they were treated by their parents. Loved but conditionally; when they scored good marks, when they learned to not cry about things. They were basically (unconsciously) trained to not attend to feelings. That is not to say that they don’t feel, they very much do but they are unable to process their own feelings. Do you feel this way? Do you feel hollow and blank when it comes to feelings towards another person? Do you sometimes get confused about your rapidly fluctuating feelings? These are hard questions. It is hard to understand, let aside accept such pathological hard-wired thought process. But there is a reason one must self-reflect as often as possible. We are unconsciously hurting people when we much rather won’t. Being a narcissist can be extremely lonely and tiresome. Imagine having to wear a mask of feigned perfection 24x7 while continually berating oneself about every possible imperfection and others’ successes. The answer will give you the answer to your sub-question. TO CATCH NARCISSIST RED HANDED HIRE Metaspyhub@gmail. com. THEY ARE SO SWIFT ACCURATE AND RELIABLE

[@AnnaMishel]

A normal person is not narcissistic!

[@kathleenwharton2139]

I like what you say. God Gave us Survival Instincts to ensure the survival of the species..but we have to curtail those instincts for the Good of All. Pride..Lust..Greed..Anger and worry..are Good..unless Misused. 😊❤

[@cl5193]

When I saw the length of your post, I wondered if you might be a narcissist. You even have an ad at the bottom. Wtf?

[@jacklangley861]

Once you've had a relationship with a narcissist and learned what they are you can spot them easily. You start to realize they are everywhere. Even the covert narcissist becomes seen fairly quickly. You start to realize they gravitate towards jobs that wield power such as cops, Doctors, politicians. These fields are rampant with narcissists. These people are the biggest threat to humanity. Educating yourself will help you immensely. God bless you who reads this! 🙏

[@ronnigentile2901]

Their exhausting and will drain you.

[@laquin8085]

Sure will

[@lois3779]

Didn't drain me. I actually beat the nar at his own game. They're not all smart.😊

[@gionagrace6279]

Omg Dr Phil.....this is TRUTH!! Horrible twisted creatures! They will rob you of your heart and soul. RUN...do not walk!! Go no contact or go Grey rock . It's the only saving grace when dealing with a narcissist.

[@r_EVOL_utionRENEGADE]

Not if you have kids together … it never ends.

[@neptunegrl3425]

I've met to many of them. They also strive to be the center of attention in social circles and bail on you after a number of years of you thinking there your friend and at the last minute when you needed them the most they hurt you and then there gone or they cling to you for a bit to harass you. No contact is really the only way I got my life back. I also moved out of town.

[@gionagrace6279]

@@neptunegrl3425 You nailed it! 👏 That's what they do and that's who they are! VERY SICK CREATURES.

[@rhondadurbyn6363]

@@neptunegrl3425 good for you to stand up for yourself and move on that's the only way to be happy

[@Peanuts76]

@@neptunegrl3425 YeP, they always want to be the center of everything, they afraid that people will pass them, whether that's financially, or physical attractiveness, or even other things, idk why they so insecure with all those wealth and friends, it really bothers me such a people can be like that.... Just look at my aunt, she's angry and even telling bad things to my already dead father, while yes, my father are Rich and having many assets, but my aunt still hating and telling bad things over my father, eventho she's rich rn, and her sHOp making good amounts money? She's never feel grateful over her shop, her son which is my cousins back in the day died over her Violent act, Geez, My Aunt are scary and kind a has sadistic behaviour....

[@ffreshfields5211]

I remember my elder sister who is also a narcissist try to explain to me i had brain deficiency and that i should not believe my own memories, when i finally had the courage to tell her that i felt a bit bullied by her while growing up. I put it very mildly. In reality, she would break down my confidence at every step while making it look to everyone that i was the culprit of everything or that my intentions were dark. That was truly hell - to grow up with such distorted reality about myself and put out there towards others. I was never, not once, seen. When i developed anorexia, i got blamed for that too. Everyone hated down on me. She got what she wanted. I am so happy i got out. But lost all my family. It's worth it. Painful, the loss. But worth it. I am free. Sad but true. It was hell. And when i told my parents the truth about having been sexually molested by my older brother as a child, she tried to convince them i was lying for attention. My mum never saw through my sister and praised her for her "strength . I later learned she was a narcissist too, just a less aggressive one. What an extremely messed up bunch. So glad to be free. Never again. My life can begin now.

[@karissakendall-fontaine4302]

I Love my mom but, she has BPD…. & when I realized how she messed me up at 40…. Horrible epiphany….. Thank God for my Daddy ❤& I Love Him for loving her too!!! The difficult process was realizing my life was a lie!!!

[@missym5196]

If you're an empathic person you'll possibly attract them. I've had two in my life. I've gone no contact with the last one but now he's my stalker! They can't stand loss of control. Ugh!

[@kynathomas4809]

YES YES YES! YOU ARE CORRECT!

[@Michelle-Williams-Melbournite]

I’m in the same situation. I’m kind & I will not tolerate His narcissistic behaviour anymore. Sorry your feeling this also. You can’t win with Manipulating & controlling Behaviour. It’s awful. Yet tonight I’m happier as I’m 👻 Ghosting him. … which really works. It’s hard though cause we share Two sons.. I want to be put on a pedestal like I deserve.. he ( the Bully) puts himself on a pedestal and I’m stomped on. Unfortunately for him I see the big picture.. I’m done ✅ Divorced & Am my Queen 👑 on the Chess board of life with a Idiot…stay Safe and be you Missy ☮️☯️💜

[@SN-bl6xm]

May narcissist family members are stalking me. I know bad things they did, what would get them in to prison. So they are really trying to have full control over me.

[@cynthialesieur643]

My ex husband

[@spicygal8564]

It's even worse when you always attract them, not only in dating, but at work too.

[@pinkmoon831]

Finally Dr.Phil is jumping on this narcissist topic...it's important people know about these monsters and that they are real...

[@dianesmith5898]

I had to cut off my daughter in law after 15 years of narcissistic abuse. That means no contact with my 7,8 and 11 year old grand daughter. There’s always a high cost for freedom. Please pray for our son and grandchildren who have to be emotionally abused by her.

[@katalinnemeth6252]

I'm going to pray for you son, and grandchildren.

[@martyvirtue4051]

Prayers for you from the Netherlands

[@67cici]

Me too ke too

[@tomhism]

Same here

[@michelleduncan9965]

We had to do same with a "step" daughter. Hard to not see grandkids, but then ... they "villain-ize" you to the grandkids (& other relatives if they can sway them), so ... even if you do get to see the grandies, it won't feel very warm or genuine.

[@buncey2536]

Narcissism is a spectrum and can depend on many factors. It depends mainly on the level of supply. What they learn is conditional empathy or selective empathy, and they can turn on tears when they need to. They play the Hero and the Villian and fool everyone.

[@carriebell3566]

Worst thing you can do is calling them out. No one gets more enraged than a narcissist who’s been seen through. They hate when truth is spoken. It will usually just buy you more hate and weeks of the silent treatment. It never has the effects we want it to have.

[@jennifermitchell3070]

💯💯My daughter in laws son is with one. My god she is completely nuts!!!!

[@carriebell3566]

@@jennifermitchell3070 I pray for his safety and peace.

[@sharonthompson672]

Yeah, remember the Dirty John blog? Whew!

[@carriebell3566]

@@sharonthompson672 no, but I can imagine 😣

[@amyhart7597]

To a tee!!

[@Goethe2andFro]

"no ability to reflect feelings" - best description and example I've ever heard of NPD

[@djondjon]

Oh, but I disagree with "no ability to reflect feelings." I have known at least 3 narcissists who were good actors when they wanted to be, and could (seemingly) reflect feelings if/when they wanted to, to try make themselves look like a good guy to the outside world. Skilled narcissists learn how and when to appear like great guys (or gals). They are dangerous, because that's how they draw victims in and/or cover up their treatment of their victims committed behind closed doors.

[@bernardwalden6884]

Things are very black and white. Back in the day the narcissist was dubbed a con artist. 🚂

[@Bizhead3]

Yes, no ability to self reflect therefore they miss opportunities- they can’t change.

[@Coastiestevie]

It's a very sad situation for narcissists because they don't understand the reality of any situation. It's not like a liar who chooses to lie; they literally don't know they're messed up.

[@angelaweaver9803]

They are very much aware of their actions or they wouldn't go to such lengths to hide it. Part of the disorder is they refuse to admit the harm they do or take any responsibility

[@tonyascreativespace3067]

I'm just out...i gave up 25 years...im done! im sick of all the lies! Im so heart broken😢

[@user-je6by6ok4i]

Yes l understand it's shocking what they do..l was only dating one he thought l had lost interest In him....the he started put disgusting hand written notes in my letter box and my neighbours omg then he rang long time friends ...my work colleagues he did a great job on me 15 years l had a major breakdown he left the area 2hrs away......Then a letter came he said he will always care about no matter what...l thought we made a lovely couple still don't get it .why why

[@melindamcclain835]

Both of my parents are narcissists. My dad is gone now but my mom is still a narcissist at 80 years old she is worse than she has ever been. They get worse with age. Believe me!

[@edadan]

You should listen to Kris Reece. She talks a lot about this subject.

[@josiejones3186]

💓Oh my goodness?!💓 Your word’s triggered a Bible Scripture: “Unless a sinner repents of their sin, when they’re older they’ll wax worse, and then God will hand them over to their own delusions.” 💔With compassion for you, and your Mother, 💜I’m praying for your Mother’s soul… In Jesus’s love…🕊 🙏🏻☦️🕊

[@hamptom11]

I know. My mom is 84. I walked away. Don't wish her I'll but good riddance. She was a dangerous one. Choked us out as kids and attacked her grandbabies. I'm glad she's all alone.

[@Hulahoopvillian]

Omg lol

[@birdlover6842]

They do get worse with age.

[@lynngold1865]

I grew up with a mother narcissist.😢😢😢😢Didn't realize how much damage it caused me in self esteem, identity, confidence& in my relationships!Shows like this explained it all to me.thank you!

[@jammyjay917]

Me too....I lacked confidence because my own mother always always criticized me and put the guilt trip on me....she's getting worse with age, I try to keep my distance as much as I can now....she never asks me how I am or is interested in my life, my husband and boys....how sad is that... thankfully I have grown and realized what she's like ❤️

[@sunnystormy4973]

-living with one is pure --#evil-

[@sharonthompson672]

Same here. I was looking at old pictures....whew the hate in her face, the body language. Pictures do tell a story.

[@Karen-wb4ox]

Same here. I love her and Christ loves us both but it's going to take God to improve things.

[@raymieortiz9706]

Same here😢

[@jamesburgasser4950]

This resonates so well with the relationship with my sister. She has always been this way and it took years for me to see through her maladaptive behaviors. I am now in the process of settling boundaries and distancing myself from her because it seems the best way to stop getting hurt by her. Thank you for this video.

[@Kiki-jx6by]

Some narcissists have some of these behaviors. And they are GREAT in hiding them. Sometimes u don’t find out until u get involved with them. Then they got the nerve to not let u go when a break up occurs. And get ANGRY when you tell them when you are unhappy about something they did or said. Blame YOU for THEIR shortcomings or mistakes.

[@milaniaxaira6395]

Including children getting attention theyre jealous of kids ! Shocking isnt it ?

They’re jealous of their own shadow it’s actually SICK🤮.

[@jacquipotgieter5821]

Yip it’s sickening. My mother in law too a tee. We went no contact years ago.

[@kristieingram8835]

My son was disabled and the narcicisst ex tried every way to turn me against my son but a mother's love for her children can NEVER BE BROKEN......

[@rhondadurbyn6363]

Yes because they want all the attention they are very sick people

[@rhondadurbyn6363]

Things like this why you need to know who you're marrying they care only for themselves. And you will never have a stable marriage being married to a narcissist.

[@zippyz4170]

It's become an epidemic in society...if there's no consequences then they'll keep on doing what they do and no one holds them accountable. The best thing to do is run...run really fast in the opposite direction.

[@jsf8145]

Yep. 2 Timothy 3 👌

[@Firefly-trike]

You are exactly right! We live in a Narcissistic society nowadays. Soooooooo many of these young millennials are Narcissistic little self-entitled self-centered individuals. I'm old enough to remember when society wasn't like the way it is today. Sad beyond belief. 😞

[@Firefly-trike]

@@jsf8145 Bingo!

[@virtual240]

No, love your neighbor as yourself not treat them like outcasts.

[@zippyz4170]

@@virtual240 Yea did that and I got nothing but suffering in return. Even Jesus ran away from people that demanding his attention...try reading a Bible...especially 2 Timothy 3

[@bettyboop1949]

It's very tough when the narcissist is your parent.

[@victoriadolton4762]

Exactly! My narcissistic father is 95 now. I only stick around for my mother. They get worse as they age. He knows I won't put up with his BS! Decades of experience!!

[@Bee-Kind-Baker]

Came across your channel , for the first time today. Great video; thank you! I’ll have to say that this is the best, most complete description of a narcissist that I’ve heard. I’m 61 and was raised by a quite severe narcissist . It greatly impacted my life. My mother has been in and out of my life, since adulthood. But, trouble has always followed. Appreciate the time you took to explain.

[@TheJennyg76]

Mine always has a “better” or “worse” thing , experience that you . Not one word about your situation just straight to why their experience is more important than yours

[@rhondadurbyn6363]

Yes it's always about them and most of the time they're just Plum stupid

[@grammichal6759]

@@rhondadurbyn6363 “Crazy like a fox.”

[@JL-zn7me]

YES!!!!!

[@marionlammertsma]

You are sooooo right 😤😤

[@randycoolbaugh1408]

omg! yes!!.. every freakin time!! every time i hurt myself or even get ill. she suddenly gets it worse !!!

[@dawn6232]

Keep talking about these toxic individuals! You have an abundant platform for so many to be educated on this! These individuals, especially the the covert passive aggressive narcissist! They look “normal” but cause total emotional devastation!

[@sheilaprice1942]

They are the crazy making NARC!! What is crazy they seem normal… then all of sudden they start playing sick mind games on you. You question your reality in the relationship. Please, listen and get out. Blessings to you all 🙏🏼💕

[@rhondadurbyn6363]

@@lumity238 will be praying for you God does move in mysterious ways

[@wendytaylor9730]

Excellent........................thank you Dawn

[@JL-zn7me]

Thank you!!!! This definitely needs to be talked about more!!!!

[@SamSolasdonSaol]

Go to Dr. Ramani here on KZbin folks. She's the Gold Star Expert in Narcissism and her expertise makes Phil look like a pre-schooler. You won't regret it.

[@cynthianunn]

Dr Phil you’ve really helped me deal with my deceased father’s narcissistic behavior. I learned about what a narcissist was after his death. Now my whole life makes more sense. Thank you.

[@user-nj1um5sw4r]

You totally nailed it, Dr. Phil. Thank you. My mother was a narcissist. I'm nearly 60 and still trying to undo the damage.

[@lisafiveash3089]

I just left my husband 6 months ago, he is a Narcissist, you are so correct, Tfs, I finally had enough after 20 years, I lost my self but I just had to get enough, leaving him was the best decision I had ever made, peace of mind , I am so happy now

[@kayeb7809]

Took me 32 years to reach my limit. Good for you !! Remarried a wonderful man now.

[@lisafiveash3089]

@@kayeb7809 I am proud for you, I am 62 and I got a tiny house and my chihuahuas and I am so thankful and grateful for my new beginning, ♥

[@greaterishe7197]

💐

[@lisafiveash3089]

@Mammy Potato Thank you❤😊

[@alluringstar5910]

I cut out a supposedly good friend she was never a good friend she tried to control me. This person is full of negativity and hate such a toxic person. I do feel better without her u feel a sense of peace and freedom. I feel happy for u Lisa good for u.🙂👍🏼👍🏼

[@debrap947]

And all the narcissists give a thumbs down. 😁 Thanks for this...I no longer will waste my words on a certain person anymore. You are absolutely right...you get nowhere with this type!

[@looweegee252]

Or the people who don't like Dr. Phil since he's so narcissistic toward guests

[@narcsurvivornyc6846]

This is so true. This also happens in marriages and relationships. Everyone is their competition.

[@kiraharlamor391]

That’s exactly what happened to me and when I began teaching others with my knowledge I gained from learning about myself, others and these type of personality traits, they did exactly what you just said here and they mimicked me, turned things back around onto me, when I tried to get help and numerous occasions and then if I hadn’t learned as much as I had, myself, I never would have had the wisdom to do exactly what you stated here, to acknowledge the fact that they weren’t going to alter any horrid behaviors and would continue to harm me each day, so I chose to quit my job and it was the absolute best feeling I’ve ever had! I took my power back, completely, and walked away. I’m so glad you are talking about this to everyone! I felt like I gave candy to a bad kid that didn’t deserve it and they threw a horrid temper tantrum. The retaliation of these few people still lingers and it’s frustrating. I don’t give them any energy. Even when I’m explaining my past situation, it’s not giving them my energy. I’m merely explaining. I’ve already forgiven them for their part and myself for staying around as long as I did, since it was at my place of work. Nothing is worth more than your own life! Especially when it comes to the safety, stability and well being of your own life, at your own job! I appreciate you explaining the difference of empathy and sympathy as many confuse the two. You’re still one of my all time favorite doctors! You know your information in all areas! Happy holidays to you and your family! 😊🙏🎄🌟

[@leahbrown4042]

omg I have been dealing with this for 20 years... my ex narcissist cop husband... a monster.

[@angelam8975]

48 years of it and have learned to mostly walk away.

[@tomsawyer8993]

That is true it makes them worse, but some people can still see through the mask not a joke

[@MelissaMartinez-dp9wl]

I'm still dealing with it but I've figured him out already

[@justinwills8561]

I’m sorry u had too deal with that. I have some friends that are as well

[@elenaappleton2932]

@@MelissaMartinez-dp9wl Me too!

[@moniquejackson7741]

"They don't read the room." Brilliant. That would explain how I became surrounded by Narcs in my life because all I did is read the room to the exclusion of myself.

[@mariehalsey8892]

Never heard that one before. Read the room. I like it. Just like a DJ needs to read the crowd for each gig.

[@maureenwilson6031]

Spot on . I know first hand. If you can get away , it's your only hope!! Run!

[@siriusvenus8708]

I studied this Personality Disorder in a class where we were ordered to look it up in the DSM-IV-TR and then write a brief synopsis of the definition as an assignment, but you, Dr. Phil, are putting this in a context that makes the disorder much more accessible---the almost robotic definition you read in a classic manual is not complimented with "real-life" examples or any field studies (in my class, not from a notable university for this department), as you provide in just normal every-day context, makes the disorder much more understandable. I finally get it in a way I will remember, not to slip out of memory from the boring and stagnant written text in the DSM. Good job. Someone said in the portal of media that you actually don't have a PhD and you are not an actual doctor. I have not looked up your CV but you have just explained this disorder in a way I won't forget and it surpasses my profs in grad school (who probably were paid much, much less than you and not put on an exciting video to impress the public).

[@jklynb]

How true about how they isolate you. Used to get absolutely tortured for talking to someone else. Had to account for every single minute. Always accusations.

[@Peanuts76]

Yep, my mom and my sister always being like this, is like they assesing me, looking for every informations of new people i've been met, it's weird, and annoying, they live in constant paranoia.... But well, i myself suffer somekind of past traumatic childhood, and i understand why mother and my sister being like that, they suffer the same, if you ever had ptsd and anxiety, you'll understand

[@SueP-D]

Unfortunately I know that very well, too.

[@Peanuts76]

@@kschmidt9482 as codependent i understand how it feels to abused and gaslit, we are not Empath eventually, i thought i was Narc too at first, but no, Narc will not having any mental illness like codependent suffer, some says codependent are Empaths, it might be, idk man, definitely i'm codependent with boundaries issues

[@Peanuts76]

@@kschmidt9482 pathological giving are def codependent traits, no boundaries, emotional enmeshed, some emotional incest happened.... i have suffer big stress and trauma living with my peers, sad, abuse, and violence was all my childhood stories, growing up depressed since junior school.... Yep, my anger blow up, but those are repressed emotions since childhood, i've raised not to express any anger, if i angry, they shut me up, so anxiety and stress def built deep for so long... Sorry for bad english, I can't articulate all experience in good sentence, and yet having memories issue with stress and depression

[@Peanuts76]

@@kschmidt9482 how to say it? Cognitive dissonance? When their actions doesn't match their promises? Lie? And it give us conflicting message in our brains, making stress and anxiety

[@lynngold1865]

I would be surprised if a narcissist would even go to a therapist in the first place!!! Nothing wrong with me! It's everybody else who has the problems.also they don't want to look inside themselves for weaknesses& issues.😱

[@isay207]

They go to learn how to act fake empathy

[@leahparker7841]

Thank you for this video .I am grateful that you are a part of my healing process .

[@cindyc.1572]

I was raised by a narcissist who clearly had no love for me as her daughter. Then a few years ago I got tangled up with a narcissist, thinking he was a great guy. He wasn’t. It took a brain tumor to realize what I was throwing my life away on. I had the brain tumor removed (thank you God) and also removed the narcissist from my life. I will never look back.

[@quentinwilkins8521]

I was married to narcissist and I must say that they are very dangerous individuals to be around. I will avoid these kind of individuals at all times. It was a hard life lesson dealing with a person like that. Never again !

[@belindasmith1]

My mother is a narcissist, ironically I married a man that is a narcissist…sometimes they can fool you or you get into a relationship with what you relate to. I am divorced and I don’t have a relationship with my mother. My therapist said that “he would not be my mother’s doctor”. All my mother taught me was, “how not to be as a person/mama”. I wish Dr. Phil had his own show in the 70’s ❤️

[@emraines555]

I wish I'd watched this video and his others on narcissism before trying to handle one on my own. This is a goldmine of helpful information!

[@adria1018]

Some of the narcissists in therapy actually win the therapists over.

[@marisagadway8672]

Really?!

[@lauranordgren4391]

One thing for sure.. Dr Phil won't be won over😊

[@MaxineHarmon]

They really do!

[@adria1018]

Some know there stuff like dr ramani. See KZbin for her videos. I even warned my therapist of my husband’s ability to persuade others and she was adamant she would not be. I just wanted to introduce them so she could see what I was dealing with and in the middle of out one hour ordeal she ask me in front of him “Adria, don’t you love John?” 😳 In the meeting following she said “You know Adria, sometimes hormones can play a big part of your perception…”(white noise after that). Needless to say that was our last session. Gaslighting can happen from anyone, most unintentionally.

[@renee4053]

Yep. My sister could murder someone, and talk her way out of the electric chair. Very manipulating & sneaky.

[@carolaldridge651]

I lived with one for 10 years I literally lived with a demon I've gone no contact but he refuses to leave me alone The research I've done is mind blowing because everything I've read about narcissist is like reading a movie script about my life with him

[@donnah5378]

Been there too. Stay strong 🙏🏻

[@kristieingram8835]

I also did research on narcicisstic behavior and everything all the many articles said was the narcicisst I was with.....so I agree 100% with what you said

[@faith595]

Exactly 💯💔😢 so true mine to it hurts so badly 🙏

[@angelique2653]

Dr. Phil...you are spot on! My narcissist sibling tried to destroy my bond with my brothers. Tried to poison my friends against me. Tried to turn my own beloved Mom against me! Pathological liar. Insanely jealous. Spiteful. Vengeful. In the end, I had to ditch her from my life. To save myself. 15 years ago. No going back! Be warned everyone....

[@carriebell3566]

Such a horrible to go through. I’m so sorry you went through this hell. 😖

[@danababy1977]

He is so right about narcissist mimicking empathy when they really don’t empathize at all

[@lucioclasher7092]

Yo what he said about them learning to hide it better is really spot on crazy

[@kbstrong429]

Someone who can’t keep a job; yes gaslighters and they are violent if you. Confront them. They are exhausting.

[@mariehalsey8892]

They are exhausting is exactly true. Physically and emotionally. Mentally.

[@accesstotheredcarpet]

Straight up nailed it. I get bullied and gaslight for calling out the NPD morons but now I realized they won’t change so I stopped and walk away. Don’t give them any power with your reaction. Narcissist love to see fear in people. Thank you Dr. Phil!

[@user-lg5nw8mq9v]

Dr. Phil, plain and simple they're, pathologically, envious, people when the attention is not in them! Luv ya! Linda, Dallas, TX

[@Katt_gypsy]

I'm so happy to found this!! Hopefully my questions get answered. Or some of them

[@Michelle-Williams-Melbournite]

My ex husband is a Narcissist….it’s so Difficult…I’m done ✅ with the Gas Lighting.. Thanks Dr Phill for shedding light

[@joanb8489]

If I only new then what I know now, I would never have spent one second with my narcissistic looser. I got along fine and happily without him and his insanity.

[@micaelakerley2351]

Thank you for sharing info on this topic.

[@user-ut8do3xp7w]

Oh my gosh! Now I know why. My friend is a narcissist. He even gets into a debate with his counselor. Thank you for sharing this!

[@JL-zn7me]

I have someone in my life I’ve been trying to cut out. I couldn’t put my finger on what was wrong with him. Every single word out of Dr. Phil’s mouth described him. My jaw was on the floor listening to this. No Empathy whatsoever, turning the subject back on themselves, no filter, no care whatsoever of what other people think and brutally attacking when you call him out on his obnoxious behavior. SPOT ON!!! I have ignored calls, texts, blocked number- there no understanding that I’m not interested in having him in my life!!!! Thank you Dr. Phil… I know now what this person is and may know how to handle the situation better! If you come across someone like this RUN!!!! FAST!!!!

[@alluringstar5910]

I totally agree u cut them out your life and run!

[@TCTrueCrimeSages]

One of the smartest men I've ever seen. God has blessed Dr. Phil.

[@jackpetersen7545]

T C,You got a lovely smile 😊

[@vuyomzilikazi4229]

Dr. Phil nails the narcissist topic. We learning so much. Thank you.

[@talleydebra8671]

I wished I knew this about my son,before I kept falling for his reassurance how he would pay me back when he asked for money. Everything he said never happened! My other kids say take him to court,cause he owes me lots,lots,lots of money. Now I can not do anything for myself since I retired. I'm petrified of the outcome of this. Surley there is a better way to handle this. This is not the only thing he has taken advantage of his own mother! How could I not have seen this before it got out of hand???

[@muse7746]

"Don't bother". LOL. Thats the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[@randycox3232]

Agreed! When you have their number...cut ties....They are nasty mean people.

[@wendytaylor9730]

extricating oneself from these people is sometimes like being in a bowl of taffy........................................

[@muse7746]

@@wendytaylor9730 Wendy, thats a great analogy! 🤗

[@MetaFootballTV]

I have been struggling with my mum for almost 40 years. This one word has totally changed MY view toward her. THIS is exactly what she is.

[@makeyourselfathome6826]

Same

[@MetaFootballTV]

@@makeyourselfathome6826 sorry to hear that 🤕

[@pandariver9233]

It’s so nice realizing that there’s an actual word for these toxic people, growing up I always knew my mother was toxic but I never knew there was an actual term. She’s about to turn 60 and has dentures now and STILL hasn’t changed one bit, I would say she’s gotten worse but she’s always been nasty so it’s hard to say. Going no contact was the BEST choice to make, they’re truly miserable people and they want you to be just as miserable as them if not even more miserable. Anyways I wish you an abundance of love ❤️ stay strong

[@colleensadler7064]

I recently realized this about someone. Great at saying the right things but when you need them it's all about them!

[@chrisantoniou4366]

Spot on! The only way of avoiding the damage narcissists do is to avoid the narcissist. Calling the narcissist out doesn't work, but it sure as hell makes you feel better!

[@igniohealingbringeroftruth9254]

They do mimic tho when it comes to how they believe hey should act that would show empathy. They mimic well

[@buzzingbee9499]

Yes and so glad this info is getting out

[@CatEyedGoddess]

Of course dear, they are master manipulators. The ppl who usually see the real them are their kids and everyone else ‘close’ to them.

[@rnbsteenstar]

Dedicated actors!

[@kschmidt9482]

They learn responses from others then they mimic those responses, it's all part of the ruse they are putting on.

[@lovelylife1896]

Yesssssss I picked up on it as well.. mimicking is a way to make you look like a fool

[@jimmyrodasmolestina979]

My ex-wife . Thank God I was able to get away !! My life has tremendously changed from being homeless to now having a great life !!! Not everyone can break free from these people !! There should be special program s to help these victims of abuse

[@sarabrown626]

Dr Phil, it’s amazing the truth you speak on this subject! TU BIG TIME,

[@deeysell338]

Been there. I had a friend as a narcissist. He made me cry several times on many occasions.

[@mjmanso1]

It is so true when you say "don't bother it's not worth it"! Selfish and self-centered beings who are always on the attack and making themselves victims and others are to blame for everything! Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge!

[@dianetrue2396]

Just experiencing this recently. Its so manipulative but boundaries and calling them out leads to outrage. No choice but to walk away.

[@KutWrite]

Showing a picture of Dr. Phil next to the word "Narcissism" is all that's needed!

[@daniellefasse4065]

I enjoyed your video very much. You explained everything and every step that you did in detail and I appreciate that, and also added extra side notes of your.peersonal reasons for why you use a certain technique. I give you a BIG thumbs up hehe 😊 Keep up the .good work, I'm thankful for your videos

[@lozannevanniekerk5489]

Its very lonely being the daughter of a narcissistic father and heartbreaking. I grey rock now it seems to work

[@amicus9811]

Wow! This exactly corroborates what I’ve experienced with “ the monster” in my life. I used to think such a person only existed in movies. I wish I knew long ago that such “ monsters” really do live among us and can nearly or totally destroy us. I’m not exaggerating. People need to understand this personality disorder and do everything to not allow such an individual to ever get into a position of power- in any setting, personal or professional. Don’t wait to be a victim. It CAN happen to you.

[@kristieingram8835]

You are so very right.....yes , they are monsters

[@mr.trendsetter863]

Very very well said, I'm going through this right now with my girlfriend. Thanks, I'll be exiting this relationship ASAP. Thanks, Doc. I needed to hear this.

[@user-ry7kk5tc3w]

All the therapy comments Dr. Phil said here. Has happened to us. I never realized this was a narcissistic behavior and OMG!! I have got to get out of this relationship. This really nailed it for me.

[@debbiepatrie6788]

Both my ex husband s were a narrsist . and I just realized that my sister is also a naturalist , she always wants to be the center of attention , and has absolutely zero emphany for anyone but herself. I stay my distance from these people. You hit it right on the nail DrPhil.

[@chico2001ful]

So true dr. Phil. You can’t confront these people and set them straight. I’ve learned with my father ( he’s a covert narcissist) that no matter what you say whether you’re expressing your feelings, concerns, or calling out their behavior they will NEVER understand or get it. It’s like talking to a wall. It’s a waste of time or breath and energy! These people never change! My dad plays victim all the time. Makes me feel guilty blames me and my mom till no end. He denies everything and it’s so annoying. I end up angry and yell and my dad stays calm. Thinks my mom and I are always angry people. He never thinks as to what causes us to be that way.

[@krystynahaberek5086]

Great! Thanks for this video !

[@djenefeurbourdier6670]

I think they’re right to feel important. Taking so much interest in a narcissist seems narcissistic, even coming from a therapist. I like that you’re asking yourself these questions and helping us generally speaking.. It seems disloyal to have a narcissist in your life and bother them or talk to them at all. A narcissist whom imposes themself on you is your problem. Thank you for this!

[@TruppDriscoll]

Dr. Phil is cool because he tells people their problem is that, well, they just plain suck! (A shrink can't really do that.) But seriously, my therapist spelled it out quite well-narcissists/ sociopaths aren't mentally ill. They don't suffer-everyone around them does.

[@pickles9440]

My mother used to say “misery loves company”, little did I know that it was a request.

[@SamSolasdonSaol]

Your therapist is way smarter than (not a Dr.) Phil. His take here is flippant and dangerous.

[@TruppDriscoll]

@@SamSolasdonSaol I know he's not an actual doctor-did you not read the OP? Having been around many narcissists and sociopaths, I can tell you that he's more or less correct.

[@SamSolasdonSaol]

@@TruppDriscoll Yes, I did read your OP, obviously, where you called him DR. Phil. No... it's just Phil. Doctor of nothing. "More or less" does not bode well for those who are in confusing and brutal relationships with Narcs. Again, props to your therapist. He's the one that went deep. Be well.

[@francinesmith8109]

@@SamSolasdonSaol Exactly, hes no doctor and has no license, just Oprah's money maker.