Never Seen a Belt do THIS Before...(Toyota)

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@loua695
@loua695 3 жыл бұрын
My wife’s brand new undamaged Corolla of that generation did that too! Dealer told her it was a safety feature, Ha. She let them know what she thought of that BS. They fixed it :)
@scottschulte1157
@scottschulte1157 3 жыл бұрын
The rare no bonus footage and parts required! Still an excellent video Ivan.
@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404
@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404 3 жыл бұрын
Like the old v-belt design, it is designed to run on the sides. If the sides of v-belt wear down, it begins to slip. Serpentine belts are a great improvement because now it incorporates multiple V's for grip. Another great improvement is the fuel injection in today's cars, eliminating vapor lock, because of higher fuel pressure, which increases boiling temp of the fuel
@frugalprepper
@frugalprepper 3 жыл бұрын
I am really disappointed that you didn't have to break out the Pico Ivan, but you got it fixed! Очень хорошо
@craiggoodwin9704
@craiggoodwin9704 3 жыл бұрын
Diagnosing the Customer complaint can be as challenging as diagnosing the problem. We can see an "experienced" mechanic wears many hats. Great job Ivan! Thanks for Sharing!
@AP9311
@AP9311 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, belt not moving while spinning!! Wow, never seen this before ever in my 30 years of mechanic experience!! Unreal, great job fixing that!!
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 3 жыл бұрын
Love those Bando belts. At first I thought the tensioner was going to be the issue but then I saw how much tension it had against your long breaker bar ! Thanks Ivan.
@enesfazlic6017
@enesfazlic6017 2 жыл бұрын
The harmonic balancer outer ring slipping on the rubber can also cause that. I have Seen that before.
@PistonShack
@PistonShack 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen the same problem due to missing bottom cover shield on Dodge Caravan (3.3L v6). I am going to order Dayco belt gauge for myself. Thanks Ivan!
@jasonmcnamara2079
@jasonmcnamara2079 3 жыл бұрын
my first thought was seized up a/c compressor but I learned something new in regards to belts
@bobeaseshop9389
@bobeaseshop9389 3 жыл бұрын
Two weeks ago my friend bought a 2005 Sebring and it was hit in the front and the motor under pan and right splash guard were gone. The same thing you saw but I had to come up with something so I made a few panels out of plexiglass. Not the best answer but it worked. Almost every push in "Christmas Tree" was gone too. I was able to fix it but will be ordering the Dorman panels today. Didn't know they made them until I saw this video. Thank YOU! Once we got that fixed we found the top didn't go up! Nothing like a Chrysler! We posted a video about the work but you using correct panels is far better. Bobby
@stacydornan9765
@stacydornan9765 3 жыл бұрын
Your a pretty smart dude young Ivan
@additudeobx
@additudeobx 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently learned something interesting about serpentine belts. I'm not going to claim it to be true of all belts, but I do think there is a basic standard of classification between these belts and the relationship to the "Item Number". Belts are classified I am sure by many different parameters designating length, width, number of notch-v's in the belt, etc. I was recently introduced to a problem where the person replacing the belt used a belt that was "2 Numbers" different from the original. So happens, those two numbers were length. They replaced a 17" belt with a 19" belt. Like a part number A-17YP5 ... with an A-19YP5... Close enough I guess.... I chased that issue for 6 or 7 years.... caused just such an intermittent problem.... beyond belief.... RULE: Replace by Manufactures PN, not by stamp on bad part.
@llservice3376
@llservice3376 3 жыл бұрын
Funny we have a bunch of Toyotas in the family, very common in heavy rain with puddling the belt will get wet and the ac light will start flashing till it dries out, also a good time to change belt LOL
@automotivated5934
@automotivated5934 3 жыл бұрын
I just read your about page on your business website. What an awesome journey! I haven’t quite been through what you have but I am on the same path as far as advanced diagnostics. Thank you for what you share. Without you and a few of your friends I wouldn’t be where I am now with my own business. Hope you see my comment Ivan. Feel free to contact me if you ever have the time.
@Sandmansa
@Sandmansa 3 жыл бұрын
I've NEVER seen a serpentine belt slip like that before either. Usually, it's a bad tensioner or a broken harmonic balancer. That's what I was expecting you to find wrong. I've even seen a few instances where the crank pulley bolt had come loose on those VW VR6 engines, letting the pulley slip on the end of the crankshaft.
@ourtexasfamilyvideos62
@ourtexasfamilyvideos62 3 жыл бұрын
Ivan, you're a better man than I. You said "pop off the old belt" and "pop on the new one". Well, removing the old belt on my 07 Matrix was a piece of cake. However, installing the new belt was a whole new ballgame. I have scratches to prove it and my dog heard me use many new words.
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 3 жыл бұрын
Did you tell your dog the engine layout was designed by a crazy cat? I bet you told your dog that it would not design this layout this bad. That would please most dogs along with a treat.
@InsideOfMyOwnMind
@InsideOfMyOwnMind 3 жыл бұрын
So you trained your dog to sit, stay, come, heal, lay down and roll over with swear words? Gangster.😎🤣😂😁
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176
@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176 3 жыл бұрын
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind lol
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 3 жыл бұрын
My Bassett Hounds steal my tools as soon as I lay one down while working under my Jeep. Chewed the HELL OUT OF MY SCREWDRIVERS HANDLES & BURY ANYTHING THEY COULDN'T CHEW ON. Now they have too stay in the house while I work on any vehicle, THEY ALSO HEARD NEW WORDS, LMAO.
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 3 жыл бұрын
It's a lot easier to change out a serpentine belt when you don't have to work around underbody shielding. It's not too bad where they're fastened with the plastic pop in anchors, but where cladding/shielding is connected with the metal screws into metal, corrosion can make removing them a PITA.
@agmc4me
@agmc4me 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool video shot. Locals are fortunate to have you around.
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2005 Corolla. This happened a few times driving through deep puddles probably a little faster than I should have. The splash shield was damaged when I bought the car and I had it held on with tie wraps through the original fastener holes, but it wasn't 100%. The tensioners on these cars are a known weak spot, so if it still has the original on there and the belt gets a good soaking it will indeed slip until the friction dries it off. Thankfully it only took a moment for that to happen on mine. The tensioner never got worse, so the original is still on the car with nearly 250,000 miles on it (gave it to a family member years ago).
@ericg4915
@ericg4915 3 жыл бұрын
Man that pisses me off so much. The last and hopefully final time I ever used a mechanic he tossed my splash guard out! It guarded my oil filter housing. He also tore out the splash guard in the wheel wells which is total lazy hack. I understand it makes your job a little harder to work around that stuff or have to put something back but for 100 an hour that's total crap
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 3 жыл бұрын
Probably should have mentioned that Poly-V pulleys themselves can wear at higher mileages which will cause new belts to wear prematurely.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 3 жыл бұрын
seen that many times also the vee's get plugged up with dirt and debris
@SeersantLoom
@SeersantLoom 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardcranium5839 Can attest to that. Put a new belt on but it started to make noises quite soon. Looked at the belt - it had lost some of the V-s. Those were stuck in the pulley grooves. Fun time getting those out (MB A160, there is not that much space). It might've been crappy belt but I suspect it was probably alternator that had bad bearings and overstressed the belt.
@aldrinalmario1513
@aldrinalmario1513 3 жыл бұрын
Great work on the quick and easy fix Ivan! First time I saw a belt wear tool, but yes, the shiny edges of the pulleys are a quick reference for a worn out belt. Apart from the belt having visual cracks, I noticed that a worn out belt usually is elongated by a cm or so compared to the new ones. Cheers!
@josephneal4858
@josephneal4858 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet That was a first for me also!!!! The untrained eye would say the belt is fine..... My customers try to do the same thing, diag their belt issues!!! If i see any sheen to the belt at all it's TOO OLD!!!!! Great video brother!!!!!
@RideCamVids
@RideCamVids 3 жыл бұрын
Yup,,seen that before, the V's wear and the pulley teeth top out on the belt backing. Once that happens the belt gets polished and becomes useless. Those lower shields keep airborne road grit off the belt and pulleys and are important. I've also seen road debris deflect the belt off the crank pulley and destroy it.
@woppini
@woppini 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Ivan. I started leaning toward a bad tensioner or the compressor sacking out. Those grooves tell a story dont they?!
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 3 жыл бұрын
Belts are the same as any "normal wear" part on a vehicle. They wear out and do strange things. However, I've never seen a belt do that when wet also. I was thinking the tensioner spring might be worn. There are kits available that have a new belt and a new tensioner. Don't forget the idler pulleys also. Anyway, Good call on this one Ivan! Keep up the good work.......and videos!
@smithraymond09029
@smithraymond09029 3 жыл бұрын
Having missing splash shields was the reason I shorted out two alternators on my 1992 Eclipse way back in the 90s.. Luckily they had lifetime warranties from Kragen auto parts.
@bcad4066
@bcad4066 3 жыл бұрын
The splash shields are usually gone after the first oil change at Jiffy Lube or Walmart.
@bobbydelamar606
@bobbydelamar606 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual 👍🏻 You've been getting a lot of Toyotas lately.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait for this weekend 😁👌
@robertmedina6875
@robertmedina6875 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Ivan! Thanks for the diagnosis tip!! I learned a long time ago that you can never know everything. I like watching your videos because even though I’ve worked on cars for most of my life, I always pick up something valuable from your hard work on these videos!!
@nzdiagnostics2010
@nzdiagnostics2010 3 жыл бұрын
You have a awesome channel with great content. Thanks.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@johnshellenberg1383
@johnshellenberg1383 3 жыл бұрын
Some Dorman stuff is awesome. I have a 2004 Highlander and the intermediate steering shaft went bad at 140K, about 10 years ago. Instead of buying the expensive OE one that didn't last, I got the Dorman one and at 400K, it's still perfect. Word among Toyota enthusiasts was that Dorman improved the design of the shaft, and it seems they did indeed!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Wow 400k!!
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I agree John, for a lot of reasons auto shops hate Dorman products but in many cases Dorman is as good as any other. I think it boils down to choosing a brand part for the application vs. bashing the name across the board that all of their parts are crap. I believe their window regulators are better than OEM FoMoCo makes that fail way too often and Dorman has lifetime warranty on those window regulators. They state their products are engineered and improved over OEM designs that have flaws. My Lincoln 4 door lost all 4 window regulators, the first two replacements I bought were OEM. They failed about a year or so again. Bought Dorman's and 7 years later, all 4 of them still work so...
@NewLevelAuto
@NewLevelAuto 3 жыл бұрын
How do you determine when an "automatic" tensioner has enough tension? Viewers wanna know 🤔
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Keith with the critical thinking question! You can use your thumb or a belt tension gauge :)
@frugalprepper
@frugalprepper 3 жыл бұрын
Keith, you replaced the belt and see if it still slips. If it does, then you replace the tensioner.
@2nickles647
@2nickles647 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Belt tensioners tend to wear at the pulley and the spring also loses it tension over time. Seen many failed tensioners. Most of the failures are the tensioner pulley or idler pulleys. Not to mention the harmonic balancer coming apart. Glad you are on top of the task.
@cavemanindustries5102
@cavemanindustries5102 3 жыл бұрын
I think they also tend to "bend" out from the plane of the belt.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 3 жыл бұрын
@@2nickles647 I have seen those Phenolic or plastic pulleys, on idlers, deform and eventually create a slanted wear pattern and force the belt off to one side when they wear. Most aftermarket ones are made of steel so in those cases I say, don't buy an OEM part. I actually find myself saying that in many cases when an OEM part fails early.
@tedjohnson64
@tedjohnson64 Жыл бұрын
Really liked your demo of the serpentine belt wear gauge tool!
@moviemania1137
@moviemania1137 3 жыл бұрын
Parts required?? Wtf Ivan!! You are losing it man! 😜
@johnkaplanian
@johnkaplanian 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. Ivan, FYI, I have had the same problem with my Hyundai Sonata 2 years ago in winter when I happen to go through a water puddle, and the problem was a crankshaft pulley that is not a complete solid steel, but a kind of a pulley that is comprised of 2 parts with a rubber bushing in between the outer steel part that is attached to the belt and inner steel part that is mounted on the crank. I believe such a rubber bushing layer is being made to absorb the compressor impact load if AC is operated at high speed, and with age the rubber looses its bonding and grip and becomes slippery initially with water and later when operating the AC. So the remedy was a new crankshaft pulley. Just wanted you to know that. Take Care. John Kaplanian from Jordan / Middle East.
@billziegmond4943
@billziegmond4943 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! I have been spinning wrenches a lot of years. I never saw on slip like that either.
@ASAKLR
@ASAKLR 3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking that the slipping belt might have been slightly longer than manufacturer's standard and the tensioner reached its limit trying to get it tight.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
These belts don't really stretch, just the rubber wears on the grooves :)
@tiredoldmechanic1791
@tiredoldmechanic1791 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Gates belts used to stretch badly. I don't know if they corrected it but it was very common to have to use the next size shorter belt and Gates makes the NAPA belts.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiredoldmechanic1791 I've had good luck with BANDO belts recently. Made in the USA!
@mattcat231
@mattcat231 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics say it ain't so! a product made here? im on it now! Due for a belt on my Silverado as it's doing the same thing this one did, but no protection from the water as it gets ingested through the grille, lol
@2aminitials
@2aminitials 3 жыл бұрын
I had to replace a belt on my 97 Ranger 4.0 because the tensioner would go "past center" and loose belt tension. Even though the belt looked ok, it was probably worn in the grooves.
@ryans413
@ryans413 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always best to spend little more on a V rib belt they are little more pricey but they are really good belts that last long time silent and don’t slip when wet. Got one on my car been working great
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 3 жыл бұрын
H2o diagnostic tool ha ha :-D That's gotta be a first, so odd watching a pulley stationary. i thought the tensioner was weak at the start.
@ganeshnarayan5505
@ganeshnarayan5505 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Ivan. Maybe it was a Dorman belt that's why it was slipping.
@richardcranium5839
@richardcranium5839 3 жыл бұрын
i've seen those multi groove pulleys collect debris and then the belt starts jumping. once that starts it wears the tensioner out at the pivot pin. if let go long enough the belt will track off jumping a tooth or more. i know ya did but always clean and check pulleys bearings and tensioner pivots.
@UtahDarkHorse
@UtahDarkHorse 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Have watched lots of videos about belts but they never explained the part about how the "V" wears. Thanks for sharing 😊
@demderby79
@demderby79 3 жыл бұрын
Good job Ivan! i thought for sure the a/c compressor was locked-up.
@iduimovic
@iduimovic 3 жыл бұрын
Ivan, Also the belt tensioner that is hydraulic on those Toyotas has a tendency to loose the fluid and they start to raddle and when they get really bad loose the entire tension and they are just another idle pulley leaving the belt looking like that example.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
I've never had a belt failure on any car that I have owned. Thanks Ivan!
@t-rodshader9593
@t-rodshader9593 3 жыл бұрын
I have a personal car that does that, it gets water on it every once in a while and slips. I cannot find the exact guard. So I just try avoiding it by slowing down over them. It only does it when you splatter water that is fairly deep anyway, so you should slow down over it to begin with. But otherwise it's a great car, almost 300k and original tranny+motor, &rack. Yes the rack leaks, and the motor is starting to leak coolant in the intake gaskets, but to me these days. Anything that goes well over 100k is a good car. People always talk about how long a vehicle last after they've replaced half the drivetrain. But the drivetrain is what your mileage is counting on so to see even part of it still intact is impressive sometimes. By the way your videos are great and appreciate the effort involved in some of them because I have been there dozens of times. Including customers cars so I appreciate the ability to show others your adventures.
@johnwright9622
@johnwright9622 3 жыл бұрын
I saw several vehicles with the wet serpentine belt slipping back in the mid 80s when I was a service advisor at a Ford dealership.
@WilliamMulligan
@WilliamMulligan 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. My London Black Cab (TX2) was the exact opposite! Engine ran great when the serpentine belt was wet but was horrible when dry. I thought it was just my cab but it was all of them. The solution was to only drive in the rain.
@Ram14250
@Ram14250 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! What's that "Black Fluid" in the little reservoir? (9:42 mark: Power Steering fluid) ick! Looks like tar now. Love your videos Ivan! Keep up the great work!
@jamram9924
@jamram9924 3 жыл бұрын
If it has a cheap aftermarket Dayco tensioner with a plastic pulley, a glaze or coating builds up between the surface of the belt and the pulley. I found Gates or Goodyear aftermarket tensioners and belts are much better.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 3 жыл бұрын
pulleys also wear down and cause the same type of belt slippage. a bad tensioner is often to blame for advanced major wear of the belt and pulleys both, as well as lots of sandy area/gravel roads driving. very bad if the splash shields are missing!
@cullenmiller8170
@cullenmiller8170 3 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like an optical illusion. That's when your brain is not sure what it's seeing since we all know what it's supposed to look like. Now I'm just waiting for Eric to show up and stir the pot with his big wooden spoon about you getting some water on the alternator. 😂😂
@BoweryPenguin8
@BoweryPenguin8 3 жыл бұрын
Any reason you didn’t replace the tensioner? One car that stands out to me is about the 2017 explorers with 3.7/3.5 they are known to shred belts at 60k miles or so and no one at Ford knows why. We always replace tensioners on them just as a extra reassurance maybe the tensioner is faulty.
@jeffbaldwin9842
@jeffbaldwin9842 3 жыл бұрын
What? No overpriced OEM parts? Shame on you for saving the customer some money. Another interesting video. Thanks
@JMRSplatt
@JMRSplatt 3 жыл бұрын
My 2006 Accord has the same symptom.. Puddle... The battery light will come on.. lose power steering.. I know the belt is slipping but usually the AC or deforest is running. The AC compressor is nearing it's end.. it cycles too frequently.. I actually might be missing that plastic too. Though the serpentine belt is probably the original with 160k miles... it's discolored on top but not cracked, much like as you are indicating. Recently bought. I'm so happy you made this video!!!
@brentfellers9632
@brentfellers9632 3 жыл бұрын
Quick a/c cycles can mean incorrect refrigeration charge.
@JMRSplatt
@JMRSplatt 3 жыл бұрын
@@brentfellers9632 Yeah, I appreciate the input!! .. The mechanic shop I bough the car from did a full evac and recharge which stopped the cycles for a bit.. The compressor does seem to be leaking, oily mess on the compressor itself.. and possibly the service ports too... I always try to keep the AC off now to preserve when I really need it. This car is fantastic with features but if you aren't careful the AC will always be on, even with heating due to the 'auto' function. At some point I'll get a service port valve tool and get a recharge if necessary. but a compressor and related replacements are so expensive that I may never get the full job done
@paultice610
@paultice610 2 жыл бұрын
Great video interesting to see what cars do differently my wife is Subaru and it serpentine belt because Idol pulley locked up and shredded the belt so I had to drive it 3 miles home manhandling an all wheel drive vehicle was not fun but after so long of the battery light being on the check engine light came on it disabled traction control and cruise control it was pretty weird to see
@DJ-tn7vj
@DJ-tn7vj 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I explained to everyone that manufacturers put things on a car for a reason. You may not believe it but it's true.
@atombom8214
@atombom8214 3 жыл бұрын
The best is when there is bolts left over from a repair job and the person says, "well its running fine I musta not needed em." Haha I've got some buddies like that.
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as a kid "the stupid plastic pans" meant nothing. Wrong. Bet that car ate belts once the pan dissapeared from all the road grit.
@Embermist69
@Embermist69 3 жыл бұрын
They don't spend money on frivolous parts, to cheap for that.
@cclngthr
@cclngthr 3 жыл бұрын
My 1998 Ford Contour does this. Water on the serpentine belt does it. Replaced the splash shield fixed it.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Ha my Mystique had a belt slip problem when I bought it. New belt would only stay quiet for a few months. Finally figured out that it was a DORMAN harmonic balancer that had misshaped grooves on the pulley. Bought an OEM harmonic balancer from Ebay and another new belt...problem solved!
@cclngthr
@cclngthr 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics OEM is best if you can get it
@ralph1bart
@ralph1bart 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tool tip and belt wear explanation. Found one on eBay for $5.
@engeneer_ru5827
@engeneer_ru5827 3 жыл бұрын
Привет Иван! Интересный случай. Я тоже, никогда не встречал именно такого износа ремня...
@brada1803
@brada1803 3 жыл бұрын
Your right! Prior damage and incomplete repairs
@inothome
@inothome 3 жыл бұрын
Tensioner moved freely? I'd tend to think the tensioner was stiff and not tensioning enough. But, sure you would have felt it.
@ryans413
@ryans413 3 жыл бұрын
It’s an automatic tensioner it’s suppose to move to keep tensions as the belt wares down
@inothome
@inothome 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryans413 Right, and they seize up sometimes and don't tension.
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 3 жыл бұрын
That thing was smoked! Dorman hard parts are about the only usable stuff they make. I used to use them in the day for crank window handles and door lock extensions, Then they had to start making electronics and sensors. All down hill from there, lol.
@dalerichardson6342
@dalerichardson6342 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Sears Craftsman air compressor with a serpentine belt and as the compressor built up pressure the belt would start to slip. I thought the compressor was seizing up. Took me a while to finally figure out that the belt was just worn out
@celeron55
@celeron55 3 жыл бұрын
My Fiat Scudo van (made mostly by PSA) had this same issue with its old belt. Basically if you turned the wheel at slow speed, the battery light would come on and the entire belt stopped. The power steering pump has a huge pulley in it, I guess in order to save fuel, so it's easily capable of stopping the belt.
@robertoruiz7069
@robertoruiz7069 3 жыл бұрын
WELL IVAN
@Cowboy_Ash
@Cowboy_Ash 3 жыл бұрын
As important as belt shape is the grip of the rubber as it ages. Some rubber compounds are better than others. Same with tires.
@RichardHeadGaming
@RichardHeadGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I have worked on cars that came from les than reputable shops and the person that installed that napa belt may have left the splash shield off. The bolts were removed and not shield just tore off.
@Deaftractor
@Deaftractor 3 жыл бұрын
I do problems sometimes on my truck 2011 ranger 2.3L. ALT slippery belt for 2-4 sec if I hit flood water. I did put water hose to test if my ALT belt slippery I don’t see slippery. but my city water “ hard water”. And raining is soft water. My ALT won’t alert light unless volt drop less than 10 v.
@htownblue11
@htownblue11 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Ivan, this proves you are a Mechanical Alien Wizard From Russia since the Black Magic Gods are sending you belts that appear to turn backwards when engine is running…..All kidding aside that was a crazy scene. Thanks for allowing us to tag along on this adventure.
@ratbag359
@ratbag359 3 жыл бұрын
My mitsbishi used to do a simular thing, Was missing splash shield too. New belt made the headlights diming and heater fan slow down also less power steering issue and screaming belt as it dried back out be gone.
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 3 жыл бұрын
Large hunks of plastic shielding. Finally a Dorman part that cannot fail! Way back in the 90s, Chrysler products that used the Mistu 3.0 V6 had tons of problems with throwing the belts in the rain or heavy snow. They had revised tensioners and belts, as well as stressing that all shielding MUST be in place to help prevent the problem, in service/tsb data.So is that stupid annoying piece of plastic important? In this case, yes!
@davidlopezkk5mt229
@davidlopezkk5mt229 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Honda van that the belt tensioner that is hard to compress but once it finds it’s tension it sticks and doesn’t keep tension and only holds the same position, if that makes any sense.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
@Jacks Journale I've seen this on BMWs...then plugs up the oil pickup and causes oil starvation...BOOM!
@stevencox75
@stevencox75 3 жыл бұрын
i had a 1987 corolla sedan it was one of the best cars i ever owned
@johnleinen9409
@johnleinen9409 3 жыл бұрын
At first I was thinking water getting into the p.s. pressure switch which is down there too causing checklamp.
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 3 жыл бұрын
I'd assume very worn belt and tensioner spring is shot as main culprit. if it's not oil/coolant soaked.
@hondatrix
@hondatrix 3 жыл бұрын
Ivan. Seen it with Dayco belt on a BM trouble you before….
@tinkerwest
@tinkerwest 3 жыл бұрын
Bando belts, the choice by knowledgeable people. 😎👍
@JohnDiMartino
@JohnDiMartino 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen that myself without a weak tensioner or oil soaked belt. If it had over 125k miles , I would have advised that the tensioner be replaced especially since there’s been a lot of mud and water intrusion into the area.
@chekelley6861
@chekelley6861 3 жыл бұрын
I laugh when techs say “belts good, no cracks in it” it’s kinda like the “ma’am, your Schrader valves have a small leak, that’s why your AC is low” as they take the cap off and a small burst of pressure comes out 🤣
@lorrinbarth1969
@lorrinbarth1969 3 жыл бұрын
Generally, what the techs say about the belt is true. I've seen them with cracks and chunks missing and still working fine.
@zevsgarage7257
@zevsgarage7257 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2008 Suzuki SX4 in the shop a while ago with the same complaint. It ended up being a weak tensioner that only allowed the belt to slip when wet.
@ThatEEguy2818
@ThatEEguy2818 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I was wondering is, how do you know the tensioner was applying the correct tension? Maybe this will just happen again it the tensioner is really the root cause. I didn't hear you mention it.
@paulstandaert5709
@paulstandaert5709 3 жыл бұрын
I find that those splash shields go missing primarily because someone worked on it before and was too lazy to re-attach it or re-attach it properly. Often times, they are held on by bolts that rust and snap off very easily. I keep some self tappers on hand for when I have to deal with that. Dorman will find a way to get a splash shield to not fit, nor work properly.
@soldado141
@soldado141 3 жыл бұрын
I work on my cars so often that it's annoying having to remove the splash shields every time. I've never seen this issue though, so I might have to put them back on. Thankfully I have it stored with its bolts.
@paulstandaert5709
@paulstandaert5709 3 жыл бұрын
If it hasn't been a problem, then a person may as well just leave it be. But when it is a customer's vehicle or even your spouse's, having belts come off when driving in rain as well as intermittent power steering loss and belt noise, it is best to just have the splash shields in place. The annoyance factor of those shields goes away down with a small investment of removal tools and a supply of fasteners on hand.
@soldado141
@soldado141 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulstandaert5709 Of course what I said only applies to cars I drive. If I'm working on anyone's car I'm putting every back as it was.
@paulstandaert5709
@paulstandaert5709 3 жыл бұрын
@@soldado141 I do the same on occasion. Much of this issue probably stems from the job paying .5 hours, and you have 1.0 hours into it because of rusty crap or someone already fubared it before you. Is your employer going to provide self tapping screws and/or pay for you to get that splash shield re-attached? The mechanic is much better off throwing the shield into the trash, claim that it was already gone, and send it down the road. The automotive repair industry is largely a scam.
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 3 жыл бұрын
On a Dodge Caravan it will not only slip, but it ejects the belt from the pulleys in the same scenario. Edit; bad tensioner AND missing splash shield is a recipe for a tow truck. Wow that engines noisey.
@gswartz58
@gswartz58 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, as some parts are better than others, do you think that you could do a video of your preferred manufactures for different products? Years ago I used nothing but Fram oil filters, now after watching a few KZbin reviews you couldn't give me one. I would have considered a Napa belt to be top line at one time but I'm not so sure now after seeing this video. I'm sure others would like to hear what brands you prefer.
@tomctutor
@tomctutor 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou now I know what is wrong with my Toyota Corolla; when you rev headlights get brighter+dimmer and P/S indicator on dash intermittently comes on. I thought it was my power steering/brake fluid replaced but problem persists.
@Qusin111
@Qusin111 3 жыл бұрын
serpentine belts are really multi V Belts and they or the pulley can wear out, should work wet as well.
@raymondjones7489
@raymondjones7489 3 жыл бұрын
That's a first for me too Ivan!!👍👍😎
@d1bergman
@d1bergman 3 жыл бұрын
Although it looks like the belt did the trick you didn't consider the tensioner pully could have been off calibration and not providing the correct pressure or tension on the belt as well. How would you have checked the tensioner pully?
@edthompsom9368
@edthompsom9368 3 жыл бұрын
looks similar to where the belt on my daughter's old car, an 07 Mazda 3, was. Except it was one of those no-stretch belts.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
You mean "stretch-to-fit" belt? Those are a pain to install lol
@andreaskrt5341
@andreaskrt5341 3 жыл бұрын
My friend i believe the car might need a crankshaft puley .I ve seen it before it sleeps at the elastik part
@countryfriedgamer15o
@countryfriedgamer15o 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Toyota recommend that you replace the tensioner at the same time as the belt. Also aren't you supposed to replace the mounting bolt and nut since it gets fatigued over time and breaks off while driving. Many owners have experienced it breaking.
@Dirtyharry70585
@Dirtyharry70585 3 жыл бұрын
The ghost of Scotty Kilmer. I believe one of the manufacturers has this diagnosis about belts. Maybe through Rock Auto
@braaapattack2937
@braaapattack2937 3 жыл бұрын
Soon as I seen the symptoms I knew it was a bad belt getting wet, my 2011 corolla (next gen but very similar for belt and shields) did almost identical to that. I had a worn belt (145k on the original with no cracks in it. And the grooves were over 1/2 less the the new belt. And my shield was there. But had a couple Christmas trees missing which acted like a funnel when I hit a puddle 🤣
@braaapattack2937
@braaapattack2937 3 жыл бұрын
Also, irritating that they use the nice auto tensioner on the 9th gens, but 10th is done with tensioning off the alternator…. Way less consistent results when you are required to go off a bolt for tension
@TOM2RN
@TOM2RN 3 жыл бұрын
Ivan, is the old belt the correct one? I just checked the NAPA site and that number doesn’t match the list. Two of the belts end with 1880 and your original is 1879.
@JamesLee-oe7mt
@JamesLee-oe7mt 3 жыл бұрын
My 05 Silverado does this if you hit deep enough water too fast....also never makes a peep just see the voltage drop and loss of PS....dries a bit and all good
@disgruntledfaerie
@disgruntledfaerie 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Pontiac Vibe that does the exact same thing, but only if I reallllllly stuff it into a huge puddle at speed. Crazy.
@blake8297
@blake8297 3 жыл бұрын
Something I had never seen anyone do, Eric-o takes a pick and cleans the valleys out on the pulleys. He says rubber builds up in there and the belt wont fully seat.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
If something seized and the belt melted on, then for sure the pulleys must be cleaned. Otherwise not necessary 👍
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