Ping G430 Max 10K Driver Review: Problem You Need To Know About

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@michaelpesta3693
@michaelpesta3693 2 ай бұрын
This was super helpful!! I was 100% going to buy the Callaway AI smoke Max - no way was I buying this Ping. 2 1/2 hours later, trying several shafts & club heads, all on the simulator measuring everything - I walked out with that Ping - it blew everything else away!! I’m a Callaway guy but the Ping was beyond amazing (I was hitting draws - no right side bias for me). My current driver is a Callaway Epic & I love it, but the Ping was better for me. Thanks for the review!
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic Michael , The forgiveness is incredible with it for sure and it will suit some people perfectly. Go rip it .....
@3bluecj
@3bluecj 5 ай бұрын
I’ve just ditched my fitted Darkspeed LS for a 10k … took a demo out and it was point and shoot … felt effortless… flew twice the height of cobra carry’s further albeit total distance is down a little but it’s so easy . I’m not seeing the right side , pretty straight tbh so far … loving it 😊
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Great , it obviously suits you perfectly, thanks for the comment
@richardverren8121
@richardverren8121 5 ай бұрын
Hi mate, great G430 10K review and just to tell you that this right bias can be cured or moved to the left by the replacement of a different shaft. I found the Ping Alta CB S and Ping Tour2 R and the basic Fujikura Ventus Blue 6R set in neutral position started the ball slightly left or to the centre and avoided fading for more than 90 percent of my drives. On my older G425 Max I had a tendency to favour the left side and cured it by using the flat hosel settings in neutral on my Ping Alta CB S or R shafts. All new Taylormade Q10 Max and Q10 LS clubs favour the right side too!
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
All worthy thoughts Richard. Super happy with my G425 Max right now. 1st time in the bag and finally had a good score this season hitting 12/14 fairways. Thanks for the comment
@edwinlambley2801
@edwinlambley2801 5 ай бұрын
I completely agree with your findings, thought it was me. As soon as I started hitting it I was producing a fade and loved it. My miss is left and the !0K helps prevent it. I'm now aiming left and bringing it back something I would never have done before.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Its defo going to suit some people perfectly. Thanks for the comment
@freedomfighter5335
@freedomfighter5335 4 ай бұрын
@@edwinlambley2801 that's my bad miss. The reason I've purchased the 10k.. just don't hit it left
@waywardwest
@waywardwest 3 ай бұрын
I see this as a positive as it relates to my game. I have always played a fade shot with my driver. No matter which one I was using. I'd rather have a predictable shot pattern than one that I can start pulling and pushing shots left and right. I feel very confident when I am on the tee when I can line up, aim down the left and know that it's not going to go further left and be in trouble. I've never really had trouble fighting a slice, right handed golfer. For me it's the dreaded left shot that starts left and goes further left.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
It will suit some people for sure 👍👍
@chadhutchinson279
@chadhutchinson279 Ай бұрын
I noticed the right bias while testing. My miss is the high toe over draw or hook. So the right bias is exactly why I went with the Ping. I can hit a fade with hit (I couldn’t do that with my Callaway).
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
Like i said it will really suit some player. Thanks for the comment
@TheflyingkiwiRC
@TheflyingkiwiRC 5 ай бұрын
I just switched from a Titleist TSi1 12 degree to the 10k Max 12deg. My miss is left. I cannot miss left with the 10k. Definitely has a right bias.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Its potentially great if your miss is left, thanks for the comment
@TheflyingkiwiRC
@TheflyingkiwiRC 4 ай бұрын
I sold it and gone back to Titleist. Couldn't get on with the 10k, gone back to a 2018 TS2 and it's way better IMO.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
I'm still using the G425 Max 👍
@neoone75
@neoone75 3 ай бұрын
Good to know. My misses with wilson dynapower titanium are far left. It's good driver but has tendency to go left.
@denisbrochu3928
@denisbrochu3928 15 күн бұрын
Same for me, I switched from my TSi2 for the Ping 10K and then sold it and back to my Titleist 🤷‍♂️The reason is the feeling I have with my TSi compare to the Ping, no feel at all with the Ping, no more distance. I just tried the Titleist GT and it’s just WOW ! When you are playing that type of clubs and you hit the ball well, there are no much differences, it’s more a question of feels ! 🏌️‍♂️
@mirzaiaa
@mirzaiaa 5 ай бұрын
There is a lot of hype behind this driver and it certainly performs. It’s a great driver, however if you heel it like me, you will absolutely go right, sometimes far right. I tried aiming left of center, closing the face by lofting up, etc but ultimately went back to AI Smoke. Not discounting the driver, just didn’t work out for me. Good video, thank you!!
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, im the same im not using it right now but could go back to it at some point
@S.forbes
@S.forbes 5 ай бұрын
Even though the 430 has a right bias i see that as a positive for you. It means you can have confidence to aim slightly down the left and know more times than not it will drift back towards the middle of the fairway but with the 425 it could go either way which is not what you want in any golf club let alone driver. A one way miss is far better than a 2 way miss. I was considering having a fit for the 10k but you and a couple of others have confirmed that this club more than likely would not suit me as I already fade the ball.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
I could go back to this driver at anytime, just right now I have confidence with the G425
@lkae4
@lkae4 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, baby fade is the most consistent shape. Just tee it up on the right side, aim a bit left of center and you'll be playing boring fairways and greens golf all day.
@lkae4
@lkae4 5 ай бұрын
And don't rule it out. Everyone is a unique golfer, every outcome is unique. Only way to find out is to get fit with your game ball and see what happens.
@N1UG35
@N1UG35 5 ай бұрын
I was fitted with a 9* head dialed up to 10 and It basically neutralized my draw out to the point I can gently fade the ball at will if I choose.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Perfect, thanks for the comment
@920_Ly
@920_Ly 4 ай бұрын
Makes no sense. You adding loft closes the face angle making it more draw bias
@N1UG35
@N1UG35 4 ай бұрын
@@920_Ly I felt the overall head moves right easier than Callaway or Taylormade. @9* I was consistently right. Lofting up centered the flight more neutral.
@johnshields6539
@johnshields6539 Ай бұрын
I play the 430 max and tried out the 10k to see what all the hype was about, first thing i noticed was the pull right compared to my max, didnt really dawn on me at the time but i did try it again and thought no its not what i need as my miss shot is a to the right, Thought it was just me, this vid has confirmed my thoughts about it, ill stick to my max
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
Given what you have said John you are doing the right thing
@boredymcboredface8624
@boredymcboredface8624 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I’m happy with just the regular g430 max… I had much better clustering, bad shots go better than I deserved, it’s more than good enough, especially since I really need to work on my short game to lower my scores.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Ping make great drivers for forgiveness.. Thanks for commenting
@CraigFletcher-di9hc
@CraigFletcher-di9hc 8 күн бұрын
I pull and turn the ball over right to left and I find it almost impossible to do this with my G430…interesting coming across this video
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 8 күн бұрын
@@CraigFletcher-di9hc Very interesting Craig. Sounds like a good fit for you 👍
@keithspencer4554
@keithspencer4554 4 ай бұрын
I found this too. Was looking at the 430Max and tried it back to back with the 430 Max 10k and I hit the 10k repeatedly right. That’s my fail shot and the drive I’m trying to avoid. With a few adjustments on weights etc I found the 430Max much straighter. It’s perhaps not quite as forgiving and maybe 10yrds shorter but I’m more consistent with it. If I can on the fairway I score well and that’s what I need. I don’t mind the sound of the 430Max at all (I rather like the loudness) and I feel very confident with it in comparison to the 10k. I’m a mid handicapper with moderate swing speed. Oh and the 430Max was on sale too.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
@@keithspencer4554 Fairways over extra 10y everytime Kieth 👍
@jonathanhoskins1847
@jonathanhoskins1847 4 ай бұрын
I have been really frustrated with my 10k...I already had a right fade or slice. I cannot get it straight no matter how radically. As a high handicapper not only have I had to incorporate the slice into stance. I am so glad this is shared. Also UT doesn't gave tge distance as my Rogue ST Max.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Hey Jonathan, its characteristics will defo suit some but be terrible for others who already have a natural right swing bias
@aliasErEf
@aliasErEf 3 ай бұрын
@@jonathanhoskins1847 swinging left and right on a constant basis…..traditionally it means …wrong shaft…too stiff or too wippee. Just a personal mid handicap opinion. Have a good day
@dpceee
@dpceee 4 ай бұрын
Hmm. Just got my new 10K and I agree on the right bias. I will start aiming it left to see if that does help. I normally play a draw, which can lead to other problems.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
I found it more difficult to hit a big draw with the 10k, maybe thats where moveable weights could have helped ?
@jimbothejetset1982
@jimbothejetset1982 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was me. I was coming from a g400 max which i hit very consistently. The 10k with the same shaft just kept missing right, i even changed to a lighter 25g weight, hoping to help me square the clubface. Back with the G400 max now.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
Yes I'm sticking with my G425 Max for now as well
@johnhoie-hj7cg
@johnhoie-hj7cg Ай бұрын
@@jimbothejetset1982 The G400 Max is considered a classic. Even a Ping fitter would tell you it’s about as good as any of their newer models.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
@johnhoie-hj7cg Co incidentally my podcast tonight is about this very thing 19:00 GMT
@iangraham705
@iangraham705 5 ай бұрын
The complete absence of serious left misses vs missing equally on both sides seems like a positive for you, means you can aim slightly left of centre with confidence. The 425 seemed to have more serious misses despite more on fairway. Is it longer than g425?
@S.forbes
@S.forbes 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Hitting towards one side of the golf course beats hitting it and you are not sure which side you are gonna miss the fairway on.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Understand what you are saying, just in a confidence streak with the 425 right now and feel I can shape it both ways easier when i really need to. thanks for the comment
@richardverren8121
@richardverren8121 5 ай бұрын
My Ping G425 Max is still longer and louder and sometimes a little unpredictable ...but I love it. You also should tee the Ping G430 10K a little lower as it is shallower and can get scratched when topped more easily.
@ayotollaofrockandrolla7219
@ayotollaofrockandrolla7219 12 күн бұрын
Great driver . I would say the shaft is the determiner and loft of right or left. For me this driver is left . Which I love .. I hate right
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 12 күн бұрын
Great news that it suits you perfectly. For reference I had exactly the same spec, shaft and loft in both drivers.
@RobertWolstoncroft-r7x
@RobertWolstoncroft-r7x 2 ай бұрын
I believe if you put the 425max into fade configuration it becomes a 10k driver. Looks like the internal weighting of the 430 is similar as it would stop the slice, but possibly leave the face slightly open.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
I have everything set as neutral, just find the G425 Max suits me and my swing better.
@kirriegolf18
@kirriegolf18 5 ай бұрын
great video, I use the G430 max, tried the 10K and tended to push a wee bit.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Seems to be plenty of other people found the same trend judging by the comments.
@bondnoventa
@bondnoventa 5 ай бұрын
Great video, switched from a fitted TSi2.. I usually draw the ball and started pushing on misses and fading regularly with the 10k with the ping CB shaft... just read that you used your fitted G425 shaft, so the shaft shouldn't be the issue... have only taken it out the the range and course once, will keep on swinging before deciding if it's for me.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Yes the spec and shaft was the same on both drivers
@juiceqc7716
@juiceqc7716 4 ай бұрын
I'm in one now. My big miss is a big block right. With the PG3010K I also get a high spinny one out to the right. That one is probably me. Overall though: I agree 100% but the positives outweigh the negative.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
I still think its a great driver...
@davidcobb6528
@davidcobb6528 4 ай бұрын
Try changing the weight to a 22gram, I found it way better. Not sure if it changed the MOI but it sure was a different club. I've switched back and forth, the 22 has stayed in the club. It still fades but a different feel. I'm a lefty!
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Interesting Thanks for the comment
@eddierivera7463
@eddierivera7463 3 ай бұрын
@@davidcobb6528 weight? What weight???
@andredutoit2739
@andredutoit2739 2 ай бұрын
Hi André here wow thank you very good news for me as most of my driver shots tend to go left. Something to think about.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
Could be perfect for you Andre 👍
@dandunne-d5b
@dandunne-d5b 5 ай бұрын
Wow I thought it was only me!! I put my TM back in play and the lighter head is easier to turn over.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Not exactly sure for the reason for it but defo trends down the right for me. Thanks for the comment
@keithwalker1780
@keithwalker1780 3 ай бұрын
I to have noticed this definitely has a right bias. I've always played a fade and my miss is right but this driver goes way right. There has to be a setting that will make this driver draw bias. I've increased the loft but now it just goes high right. If there's a certified Ping fitter in the crowd please chime in.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
@@keithwalker1780 difficult to make draw bias with no movable weight in the head
@guybrown1865
@guybrown1865 Ай бұрын
I was thinking of getting one but since my miss is right I don’t think I will. Guy Canada 🇨🇦
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
Hi Guy Yes from my experience and plenty of others in the comments this driver suits more if your miss is LEFT.. Thanks for the comment
@matthewthompson6329
@matthewthompson6329 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Thought it was me 😂😂 Subscribed 💪
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Sub Matthew, Appreciated
@sdsinatra
@sdsinatra 3 ай бұрын
Curious if you are in the Standard or Flat setting? The Flat setting will definitely promote a right bias.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
Everything standard on both drivers 👍
@lkae4
@lkae4 5 ай бұрын
I have it set at minus one flat so definitely a bit of a right bias lol.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@petereaton1508
@petereaton1508 4 ай бұрын
i have a g430 max and play at pleasington like you . the fairways do tend to send the ball right half due to slope etc. my bad shot was right. i know come more from the inside and my bad shot is left. by the way that was a massive drive on that hole especially of the whites
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Hi Peter. Your right and I used drives on 1,3,11,13 and 17 to gather the data. Thanks for the comment and hope you are having a great year Course has been great this season
@ryanu3708
@ryanu3708 5 ай бұрын
Are you using the mass produced retail shaft with that head or are you dialed in with a custom shaft matched to your swing data? You said in your video you had covered "absolutely everything" but there was zero mention of shafts.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Got fitted for the G425 Max and just swapped the heads over on that shaft. Same lofts and neutral weight set up on the G425 Max
@biggiesmalljaws
@biggiesmalljaws 2 ай бұрын
Yeah my issue was the rear weight sheared off leaving a broken screw in the head, a weight that went god knows where, and me out a driver waiting on a Ping warranty replacement. Now I’m questioning if switching to Ping was worth it….. 😅
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
Never had any issues like that with Ping. Hope you get it sorted soon. Thanks for the comment
@KentnDebi
@KentnDebi 5 ай бұрын
Good review there Craig, plenty of data to back it, and your choice going forward, up! Got to say the fifth is a beautiful hole but it does have the ball going right on it with the lay of the land...
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Yes %th is a great hole, Pleasington is mint right now. Obviously data was collected on multiple holes on different courses
@carlr2837
@carlr2837 Ай бұрын
How odd. I use Shotscope, so I can look st the dispersion of my drives. I switched from a Titliest driver to the 10K, and I have noticed some differences. I clearly get more distance from the 10k, but, I now hit a few less fairways, which I attributed to the fact that the longer you hit the ball, the more accurate you need to be. However, I now hit left of the fairway 50% more often than I hit right of the fairway, whereas it used to be balanced. I've been wondering if the 10k has a LEFT bias....
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
That is odd, I would expect more fairways from the 10k as the forgiveness is amazing.
@donsmnc5319
@donsmnc5319 3 ай бұрын
I too went from 425 max to the 430 max 10k and noticed I hit more fades and cuts but nothing that’s not playable, I will go back and try the 425 and see if the shots move back, I had a 2 way miss with the 425, and thought the 430 would improve that with its claimed forgiveness, so far it hasn’t yet
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
I also prefer the lower more penetrating flight I get off the G425 Max
@pauldavis9601
@pauldavis9601 4 ай бұрын
Definitely a right bias. Good video
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Plenty have commented the same Paul so not just me and you ! Thanks for the comment
@920_Ly
@920_Ly 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. Every other review or forums I find show the 10k has a more draw bias which is interesting.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
I really struggle to hit a draw with the G430 but can do it with the G425 Max. You can of course give that extra help with the move able weight if you wish which you can't with the 430 10k
@industrialpalletworx3548
@industrialpalletworx3548 5 ай бұрын
I don't have a Ping. However, I would be curious to know how relative that is to the aim point. Are you aiming down the middle, and the ball just falls right? I think some context may help with that part.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Aiming down the middle with both drivers.
@scottfromengland2303
@scottfromengland2303 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for an honest review 👍🏻 im in the Market for a new driver so will give the Ping a thought as Everybody is banging the drum about this club but the TMQi10 also looks very good, wondering if that has a right bias also 🤔
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
@@scottfromengland2303 best to demo both if you can. Thanks for the comment
@seegarsmkr
@seegarsmkr 5 ай бұрын
If you are finding that it is more right biased. There are 2 things you can do to help offset this trend. If you have not purchased the driver getting a lower loft then turning the loft up will assist in avoiding that bias. If you own the driver then Ping allows the driver to be set more flat which will encourage a more draw/left bias.
@noodle3872
@noodle3872 5 ай бұрын
@@seegarsmkr Ping’s hosel starts in the most upright lie angle at standard loft. Flat setting is used to promote a more fade by pointing the loft less left/less toe up. For some golfers, the heavier head weight of the 10K makes the head rotate closed slower.
@seegarsmkr
@seegarsmkr 5 ай бұрын
@@noodle3872 I disagree, more flat is more toe up. More upright more toe down. Think of hands lower...more flat...more toe up. More upright...hands higher...more toe down.
@matthewthompson6329
@matthewthompson6329 5 ай бұрын
​@@seegarsmkrMore toe up is definitely more upright
@seegarsmkr
@seegarsmkr 5 ай бұрын
@matthewthompson6329 Ok, let me get this straight. Ping has had their dot system for decades now. If I were to take a blue or green dot and give it to a person who is 5 feet tall (short wrist to floor requiring an orange or red dot) and they were to address the ball the toe of their club would be pointing to the sky. I.e. toe up. If I then gave them a more appropriate "flat" orange dot club the toe would be more down and the club head would sit flatter to the ground. Thus more flat would push the toe down.
@matthewthompson6329
@matthewthompson6329 5 ай бұрын
@seegarsmkr Yes, if hands are at the same height a more upright lie angle club would have the toe further up towards the sky.
@enlisted6596
@enlisted6596 12 күн бұрын
I am callaway user and chage to ping 430 10k. I hit the ball tend to force right and feels frustate on it.. Then i try to fitting the driver. The fitter reccomend me to change downgrade to 430 max with adjustable weight position combine with fujikura ventus TR 5R.. 10k is tend to right bias
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 11 күн бұрын
The vast majority have also found a right bias Thanks for the comment 👍
@GarryBBimmy
@GarryBBimmy 5 ай бұрын
Great information - both positive and negative, Well balanced review 👏 👍 Garry B in Manchester
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Cheers Gary, appreciate the channel support
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 2 ай бұрын
The real comparison is, knowing the tendencies of the 10k, if you placed the landing area in the middle of the fairway and started the shot accordingly, what would be the distribution?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
I was always aiming down the middle of the fairway with each driver and got the results I outlined in the video.
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 2 ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 so, if you chose the start line knowing your dispersion and flight with each one, would the conclusion on dispersion be different?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
@@lawbinson I don't want to go down the route of aiming left with one club to compensate for a right bias. I want my process to be the same everytime which it is with the G425 Max
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 2 ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 Fair enough. It’s a mental game after all - even if the dispersion is better. I have been playing a fade off the tee with Driver and hit everything else basically dead straight or with a bit of a draw. So, it’s something I’m used to and rely on. Just a matter of aiming the dispersion pattern rather than start line in my mind, but we’re all different. Cheers.
@derekunderwood3356
@derekunderwood3356 3 ай бұрын
I haven't finished the video quite yet but have read several comments. I play the 10k personally. I can have a two way miss but right is my more consistent and worse miss. Just not getting the face closed in time. So my question is, has anybody tried lead tape on the heel of their 10k?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
Good question Derek. Never seen that done before.. Is it allowed under the rules ? I suppose it is as people Cove putters in lead tape
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn Ай бұрын
Did you try the stock Alta shaft ? cheers.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
So the shaft is the stock Alta that has been in my G425 max for the last 2 years, which was the same shaft used in the G430 10K.
@jorgegranados194
@jorgegranados194 5 ай бұрын
Dont have time to watch it all right now but my first question that comes to mind is have you done this exercise with other clubs to rule out that your swing doesnt have a right side bias?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Yes I use a different driver in the video 👍
@richardverren8121
@richardverren8121 5 ай бұрын
Hi there and I found that same right bias when using the new Taylormade Q10 Max and Q10 LS clubs with the stock TM Ventus shafts. Easily fixed to straight with tuning.
@stu7803
@stu7803 4 ай бұрын
Not sure that this is correct, I naturally slice but my 430 10K if anything tends left, overall the forgiveness is high, I suspect this problem you identify is down to swing. Interesting though.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
@@stu7803 Really pleased it suits you 👍 If it was down to swing I think every driver with the same spec would have the same bias. I have only ever had this with this one driver but as I said it's a bias not a catastrophic right.
@MikeMalkowski
@MikeMalkowski 4 ай бұрын
Well, technically you could have a right bias and the max, like most max sized clubs has a left bias, which worked to straighten you out. Maybe the 430 is actually neutral.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Its the only driver in the last 20 years that has had a consistent right bias for me. Its not destructive though as I said in the video but there non the less
@stewartgrindlay9760
@stewartgrindlay9760 4 ай бұрын
Would a small - dial out the right bias?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean Stewart ?
@andrewpratt6852
@andrewpratt6852 2 ай бұрын
Same shaft in both clubs in your test?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@nisch2379
@nisch2379 5 ай бұрын
I bought this driver on the 07/06/24, driver head cracked today 28/06/24, it sucks to pay R13000,00 for it and this happens.
@MSG19772
@MSG19772 4 ай бұрын
@@nisch2379 Ping will replace it.
@nisch2379
@nisch2379 4 ай бұрын
Update Thanks PIng, replaced with new driver today, hope it last
@mpj917
@mpj917 Ай бұрын
I've found exactly the opposite. It seems very much left bias for me, enough that I had to set the lie all the way flat to open up the head a bit.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
Oh really I think your the 1st to say that. Like I said it's still a great forgiving driver
@mpj917
@mpj917 Ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 probably just a wonky swing :)
@mbrodeur86
@mbrodeur86 5 ай бұрын
Were you using the same shaft in both? Interesting test
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Yes identical
@mbrodeur86
@mbrodeur86 5 ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 wonder if it sits more open. I find it weird for who that club is designed for that it's not more draw biased
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Defo not draw biased from my experience. Doesn't look open at address
@neoone75
@neoone75 3 ай бұрын
That's the club for me then. My misses are left in the rough, ob or in the forest. Almost 50 %.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
Yes like I said in the video if your miss is left this could be a great club for you.
@jlnew10
@jlnew10 3 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the extra mile you went with data on this review. Was debating on moving into one of the 430 models but I may simply look for a 425 that fits me. My miss is just slightly right so this really helped.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
Your welcome, Love my G425 max again
@ugotmossed84
@ugotmossed84 3 ай бұрын
After much consideration and research I added the G430 10k to my bag this year and can emphatically say it is the WORST golf purchase I have ever made. I used to suffer from the occasional heavy fade off the tee but this thing produces a slice like nothing I have ever hit. I have also LOST distance overall with this club. For reference I am a 6 handicap with a normal driver carry of 255 yards. This thing will be offered on eBay soon for whatever I can get for it.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
Wow yes Defo not the club for you.. Thanks for the comment
@andrewpratt6852
@andrewpratt6852 2 ай бұрын
What shaft?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewpratt6852 Alta CB Regular
@billfrigo7602
@billfrigo7602 Ай бұрын
I wish the sound was the same as the G410 - which is almost obnoxiously loud.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
The G430 is not as offensive as the G435 but still pretty loud.
@keastcw
@keastcw 5 ай бұрын
Hello. Would you consider sharing a little about the shafts you were using in each club? Were they the same, different, which models, etc.?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
Both set ups were identical, swapped the head on the same shaft, some loft, neutral set up on the G425 Max Thanks for the comment
@arnoldvongvirath1088
@arnoldvongvirath1088 4 ай бұрын
Boss, go back to my G400 max all went to center of fairway for 7 years
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Makes sense Arnold...
@nischroopram9948
@nischroopram9948 5 ай бұрын
I got my driver on the 07/06/24 and the head cracked on 28/06/24. Sucks
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
I think thats very unusual/unlucky and obviously covered by the warranty. Very annoying though
@nischroopram9948
@nischroopram9948 5 ай бұрын
@ScratchAt50 hopefully, they dragging their feet arm, time when I paid it was one swipe. My friends LST the same thing happened.
@rsp49
@rsp49 2 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t anyone want to eliminate one side of the course?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
That is a positive aspect. I like to have a driver that i can turn down the left when a hole requires it
@josephwmergener8881
@josephwmergener8881 4 ай бұрын
The good thing about max vs 425 is you take one side of course out of the equation.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
True that can be seen as a positive by some
@TheMurfield
@TheMurfield 2 ай бұрын
Thank YOU !
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
@@TheMurfield you're most welcome..
@vincejackson04
@vincejackson04 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree, I've switched from 430max to 10k, my miss is a hook left, has virtually disappeared with 10k and my miss now seems to be a block right.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 4 ай бұрын
Seems to be plenty of other people who have experienced a right bias as well Vince...
@mwjc5818
@mwjc5818 3 ай бұрын
What if you just change the settings on the hosel? Won't that resolve it?
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
No idea to be honest. Dont have to do that with the G425 max so sticking with that
@simongosling7919
@simongosling7919 Ай бұрын
I've played G430 MAX, 10K and LST for the past 6 months, alternating between them and fully agree that 10k is right-biased. I've stopped using it in favour of LST which I find is less fade-biased, more adjustable, longer, more playable, and from my perspective, only slightly less forgiving. Standard MAX is the straightest, but of course, that raises the issue of managing a two-way miss... 10K is best at accommodating big misses, but if you can reliably strike the centre of the club face and don't slice the ball then the LST is hard to beat.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 Ай бұрын
Ive not tried the LST, might look to demo it. Thanks for the comment
@stevemasters8321
@stevemasters8321 2 ай бұрын
If the ball goes where I want it to I dant care if it sounds like a dropped metal trash can
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more Steve. Thanks for the comment..
@lawbinson
@lawbinson 2 ай бұрын
Problem for some, Cure for others 😂
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 2 ай бұрын
@@lawbinson True but It's not a big problem though.. Like I said it s not off the planet right.
@fnshouse632
@fnshouse632 3 ай бұрын
You Brits love right to left draws ! move the back end weight to compensate for the right Bias...
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
@@fnshouse632hey thanks for the comment, you can't move the weight on the 10k, that's part of the problem.
@fnshouse632
@fnshouse632 3 ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 My bad
@Ironpilot249
@Ironpilot249 16 күн бұрын
Simple fix to this is turn it down to 9.5 degree
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 15 күн бұрын
Or go back to your old driver and keep the loft where you want it
@MSG19772
@MSG19772 5 ай бұрын
I could not turn this over too. 😢
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
It's not an easy thing to do for sure 🤔
@MSG19772
@MSG19772 5 ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 I went back to my G400 Max and shots were better. No more right misse.
@MSG19772
@MSG19772 4 ай бұрын
@@ScratchAt50 I found that G425 has super left bias that I need to loft down. G400 Max, not too much. G430 Max, I needed to loft up a bit to avoid going left. G430 Max 10k, no matter what settings, it just would not stop going right 😂
@RichardHollway
@RichardHollway 28 күн бұрын
MY MISSUS ALWAYS RIGHT
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 28 күн бұрын
@@RichardHollway in general or with the 10k ?
@user_1664
@user_1664 5 ай бұрын
I thought all drivers had a right bias 😊
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@neoone75
@neoone75 3 ай бұрын
Try wilson dynapower titanium. It has left misses, far left
@michaelrandold4656
@michaelrandold4656 20 күн бұрын
lol. you reaching. Ping 10k is the most forgiving driver in golf. if your hitting it to the right, its you, not the club.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment Michael. If it was me the other driver would do the same thing and my irons would be the same, in both instances its not the case. As mentioned its not a destructive right but right all the same. Huge amount of comments from people finding the same trend.
@drthomasrr
@drthomasrr 14 күн бұрын
It's not a right bias. The club is too long. You don't know what you are talking about.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 14 күн бұрын
Club is exactly the same spec length as my other drivers but they dont have the bias. A huge amount of comments from people who have found the same trend
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn
@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn 5 ай бұрын
I will never buy a ping driver till they get rid of those stupid BS turbulators.
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 5 ай бұрын
But you get extra clubhead speed 🙊🤣🤣
@hungsolo8992
@hungsolo8992 3 ай бұрын
Hmm im a lefty here but I haven't noticed it favoring one side at all seems very forgiving
@ScratchAt50
@ScratchAt50 3 ай бұрын
It is very forgiving on off centre and hits. 👍
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