Ping G430 Max 10K Driver Review: Problem You Need To Know About

[@jlnew10]

Really appreciate the extra mile you went with data on this review. Was debating on moving into one of the 430 models but I may simply look for a 425 that fits me. My miss is just slightly right so this really helped.

[@ScratchAt50]

Your welcome, Love my G425 max again

[@mirzaiaa]

There is a lot of hype behind this driver and it certainly performs. It’s a great driver, however if you heel it like me, you will absolutely go right, sometimes far right. I tried aiming left of center, closing the face by lofting up, etc but ultimately went back to AI Smoke. Not discounting the driver, just didn’t work out for me. Good video, thank you!!

[@ScratchAt50]

Thanks for the comment, im the same im not using it right now but could go back to it at some point

[@edwinlambley2801]

I completely agree with your findings, thought it was me. As soon as I started hitting it I was producing a fade and loved it. My miss is left and the !0K helps prevent it. I'm now aiming left and bringing it back something I would never have done before.

[@ScratchAt50]

Its defo going to suit some people perfectly. Thanks for the comment

[@freedomfighter5335]

@@edwinlambley2801 that's my bad miss. The reason I've purchased the 10k.. just don't hit it left

[@waywardwest]

I see this as a positive as it relates to my game. I have always played a fade shot with my driver. No matter which one I was using. I'd rather have a predictable shot pattern than one that I can start pulling and pushing shots left and right. I feel very confident when I am on the tee when I can line up, aim down the left and know that it's not going to go further left and be in trouble. I've never really had trouble fighting a slice, right handed golfer. For me it's the dreaded left shot that starts left and goes further left.

[@ScratchAt50]

It will suit some people for sure 👍👍

[@3bluecj]

I’ve just ditched my fitted Darkspeed LS for a 10k … took a demo out and it was point and shoot … felt effortless… flew twice the height of cobra carry’s further albeit total distance is down a little but it’s so easy . I’m not seeing the right side , pretty straight tbh so far … loving it 😊

[@ScratchAt50]

Great , it obviously suits you perfectly, thanks for the comment

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

I just switched from a Titleist TSi1 12 degree to the 10k Max 12deg. My miss is left. I cannot miss left with the 10k. Definitely has a right bias.

[@ScratchAt50]

Its potentially great if your miss is left, thanks for the comment

[@TheflyingkiwiRC]

I sold it and gone back to Titleist. Couldn't get on with the 10k, gone back to a 2018 TS2 and it's way better IMO.

[@ScratchAt50]

I'm still using the G425 Max 👍

[@neoone75]

Good to know. My misses with wilson dynapower titanium are far left. It's good driver but has tendency to go left.

[@richardverren8121]

Hi mate, great G430 10K review and just to tell you that this right bias can be cured or moved to the left by the replacement of a different shaft. I found the Ping Alta CB S and Ping Tour2 R and the basic Fujikura Ventus Blue 6R set in neutral position started the ball slightly left or to the centre and avoided fading for more than 90 percent of my drives. On my older G425 Max I had a tendency to favour the left side and cured it by using the flat hosel settings in neutral on my Ping Alta CB S or R shafts. All new Taylormade Q10 Max and Q10 LS clubs favour the right side too!

[@ScratchAt50]

All worthy thoughts Richard. Super happy with my G425 Max right now. 1st time in the bag and finally had a good score this season hitting 12/14 fairways. Thanks for the comment

[@kirriegolf18]

great video, I use the G430 max, tried the 10K and tended to push a wee bit.

[@ScratchAt50]

Seems to be plenty of other people found the same trend judging by the comments.

[@jimbothejetset1982]

I thought it was me. I was coming from a g400 max which i hit very consistently. The 10k with the same shaft just kept missing right, i even changed to a lighter 25g weight, hoping to help me square the clubface. Back with the G400 max now.

[@ScratchAt50]

Yes I'm sticking with my G425 Max for now as well

[@keithspencer4554]

I found this too. Was looking at the 430Max and tried it back to back with the 430 Max 10k and I hit the 10k repeatedly right. That’s my fail shot and the drive I’m trying to avoid. With a few adjustments on weights etc I found the 430Max much straighter. It’s perhaps not quite as forgiving and maybe 10yrds shorter but I’m more consistent with it. If I can on the fairway I score well and that’s what I need. I don’t mind the sound of the 430Max at all (I rather like the loudness) and I feel very confident with it in comparison to the 10k. I’m a mid handicapper with moderate swing speed. Oh and the 430Max was on sale too.

[@ScratchAt50]

@@keithspencer4554 Fairways over extra 10y everytime Kieth 👍

[@S.forbes]

Even though the 430 has a right bias i see that as a positive for you. It means you can have confidence to aim slightly down the left and know more times than not it will drift back towards the middle of the fairway but with the 425 it could go either way which is not what you want in any golf club let alone driver. A one way miss is far better than a 2 way miss. I was considering having a fit for the 10k but you and a couple of others have confirmed that this club more than likely would not suit me as I already fade the ball.

[@ScratchAt50]

I could go back to this driver at anytime, just right now I have confidence with the G425

[@lkae4]

Yeah, baby fade is the most consistent shape. Just tee it up on the right side, aim a bit left of center and you'll be playing boring fairways and greens golf all day.

[@lkae4]

And don't rule it out. Everyone is a unique golfer, every outcome is unique. Only way to find out is to get fit with your game ball and see what happens.

[@matthewthompson6329]

Great video! Thought it was me 😂😂 Subscribed 💪

[@ScratchAt50]

Thanks for the Sub Matthew, Appreciated

[@dpceee]

Hmm. Just got my new 10K and I agree on the right bias. I will start aiming it left to see if that does help. I normally play a draw, which can lead to other problems.

[@ScratchAt50]

I found it more difficult to hit a big draw with the 10k, maybe thats where moveable weights could have helped ?

[@boredymcboredface8624]

Honestly I’m happy with just the regular g430 max… I had much better clustering, bad shots go better than I deserved, it’s more than good enough, especially since I really need to work on my short game to lower my scores.

[@ScratchAt50]

Ping make great drivers for forgiveness.. Thanks for commenting

[@jonathanhoskins1847]

I have been really frustrated with my 10k...I already had a right fade or slice. I cannot get it straight no matter how radically. As a high handicapper not only have I had to incorporate the slice into stance. I am so glad this is shared. Also UT doesn't gave tge distance as my Rogue ST Max.

[@ScratchAt50]

Hey Jonathan, its characteristics will defo suit some but be terrible for others who already have a natural right swing bias

[@aliasErEf]

@@jonathanhoskins1847 swinging left and right on a constant basis…..traditionally it means …wrong shaft…too stiff or too wippee. Just a personal mid handicap opinion. Have a good day

[@ryanu3708]

Are you using the mass produced retail shaft with that head or are you dialed in with a custom shaft matched to your swing data? You said in your video you had covered "absolutely everything" but there was zero mention of shafts.

[@ScratchAt50]

Got fitted for the G425 Max and just swapped the heads over on that shaft. Same lofts and neutral weight set up on the G425 Max

[@bondnoventa]

Great video, switched from a fitted TSi2.. I usually draw the ball and started pushing on misses and fading regularly with the 10k with the ping CB shaft... just read that you used your fitted G425 shaft, so the shaft shouldn't be the issue... have only taken it out the the range and course once, will keep on swinging before deciding if it's for me.

[@ScratchAt50]

Yes the spec and shaft was the same on both drivers

[@lkae4]

I have it set at minus one flat so definitely a bit of a right bias lol.

[@ScratchAt50]

🤣🤣🤣

[@user-ku7fz9tx6p]

Great information - both positive and negative, Well balanced review 👏 👍 Garry B in Manchester

[@ScratchAt50]

Cheers Gary, appreciate the channel support

[@pauldavis9601]

Definitely a right bias. Good video

[@ScratchAt50]

Plenty have commented the same Paul so not just me and you ! Thanks for the comment

[@KentnDebi]

Good review there Craig, plenty of data to back it, and your choice going forward, up! Got to say the fifth is a beautiful hole but it does have the ball going right on it with the lay of the land...

[@ScratchAt50]

Yes %th is a great hole, Pleasington is mint right now. Obviously data was collected on multiple holes on different courses

[@N1UG35]

I was fitted with a 9* head dialed up to 10 and It basically neutralized my draw out to the point I can gently fade the ball at will if I choose.

[@ScratchAt50]

Perfect, thanks for the comment

[@920_Ly]

Makes no sense. You adding loft closes the face angle making it more draw bias

[@N1UG35]

@@920_Ly I felt the overall head moves right easier than Callaway or Taylormade. @9* I was consistently right. Lofting up centered the flight more neutral.

[@scottfromengland2303]

Thanks for an honest review 👍🏻 im in the Market for a new driver so will give the Ping a thought as Everybody is banging the drum about this club but the TMQi10 also looks very good, wondering if that has a right bias also 🤔

[@ScratchAt50]

@@scottfromengland2303 best to demo both if you can. Thanks for the comment

[@920_Ly]

Interesting. Every other review or forums I find show the 10k has a more draw bias which is interesting.

[@ScratchAt50]

I really struggle to hit a draw with the G430 but can do it with the G425 Max. You can of course give that extra help with the move able weight if you wish which you can't with the 430 10k

[@dandumm4319]

Wow I thought it was only me!! I put my TM back in play and the lighter head is easier to turn over.

[@ScratchAt50]

Not exactly sure for the reason for it but defo trends down the right for me. Thanks for the comment

[@iangraham705]

The complete absence of serious left misses vs missing equally on both sides seems like a positive for you, means you can aim slightly left of centre with confidence. The 425 seemed to have more serious misses despite more on fairway. Is it longer than g425?

[@S.forbes]

Completely agree. Hitting towards one side of the golf course beats hitting it and you are not sure which side you are gonna miss the fairway on.

[@ScratchAt50]

Understand what you are saying, just in a confidence streak with the 425 right now and feel I can shape it both ways easier when i really need to. thanks for the comment

[@richardverren8121]

My Ping G425 Max is still longer and louder and sometimes a little unpredictable ...but I love it. You also should tee the Ping G430 10K a little lower as it is shallower and can get scratched when topped more easily.

[@petereaton1508]

i have a g430 max and play at pleasington like you . the fairways do tend to send the ball right half due to slope etc. my bad shot was right. i know come more from the inside and my bad shot is left. by the way that was a massive drive on that hole especially of the whites

[@ScratchAt50]

Hi Peter. Your right and I used drives on 1,3,11,13 and 17 to gather the data. Thanks for the comment and hope you are having a great year Course has been great this season

[@juiceqc7716]

I'm in one now. My big miss is a big block right. With the PG3010K I also get a high spinny one out to the right. That one is probably me. Overall though: I agree 100% but the positives outweigh the negative.

[@ScratchAt50]

I still think its a great driver...

[@ugotmossed84]

After much consideration and research I added the G430 10k to my bag this year and can emphatically say it is the WORST golf purchase I have ever made. I used to suffer from the occasional heavy fade off the tee but this thing produces a slice like nothing I have ever hit. I have also LOST distance overall with this club. For reference I am a 6 handicap with a normal driver carry of 255 yards. This thing will be offered on eBay soon for whatever I can get for it.

[@ScratchAt50]

Wow yes Defo not the club for you.. Thanks for the comment

[@neoone75]

That's the club for me then. My misses are left in the rough, ob or in the forest. Almost 50 %.

[@ScratchAt50]

Yes like I said in the video if your miss is left this could be a great club for you.

[@davidcobb6528]

Try changing the weight to a 22gram, I found it way better. Not sure if it changed the MOI but it sure was a different club. I've switched back and forth, the 22 has stayed in the club. It still fades but a different feel. I'm a lefty!

[@ScratchAt50]

Interesting Thanks for the comment

[@eddierivera7463]

@@davidcobb6528 weight? What weight???

[@sdsinatra]

Curious if you are in the Standard or Flat setting? The Flat setting will definitely promote a right bias.

[@ScratchAt50]

Everything standard on both drivers 👍

[@donsmnc5319]

I too went from 425 max to the 430 max 10k and noticed I hit more fades and cuts but nothing that’s not playable, I will go back and try the 425 and see if the shots move back, I had a 2 way miss with the 425, and thought the 430 would improve that with its claimed forgiveness, so far it hasn’t yet

[@ScratchAt50]

I also prefer the lower more penetrating flight I get off the G425 Max

[@jorgegranados194]

Dont have time to watch it all right now but my first question that comes to mind is have you done this exercise with other clubs to rule out that your swing doesnt have a right side bias?

[@ScratchAt50]

Yes I use a different driver in the video 👍

[@richardverren8121]

Hi there and I found that same right bias when using the new Taylormade Q10 Max and Q10 LS clubs with the stock TM Ventus shafts. Easily fixed to straight with tuning.

[@stu7803]

Not sure that this is correct, I naturally slice but my 430 10K if anything tends left, overall the forgiveness is high, I suspect this problem you identify is down to swing. Interesting though.

[@ScratchAt50]

@@stu7803 Really pleased it suits you 👍 If it was down to swing I think every driver with the same spec would have the same bias. I have only ever had this with this one driver but as I said it's a bias not a catastrophic right.

[@derekunderwood3356]

I haven't finished the video quite yet but have read several comments. I play the 10k personally. I can have a two way miss but right is my more consistent and worse miss. Just not getting the face closed in time. So my question is, has anybody tried lead tape on the heel of their 10k?

[@ScratchAt50]

Good question Derek. Never seen that done before.. Is it allowed under the rules ? I suppose it is as people Cove putters in lead tape

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

I don't have a Ping. However, I would be curious to know how relative that is to the aim point. Are you aiming down the middle, and the ball just falls right? I think some context may help with that part.

[@ScratchAt50]

Aiming down the middle with both drivers.

[@stewartgrindlay9760]

Would a small - dial out the right bias?

[@ScratchAt50]

Not sure what you mean Stewart ?

[@seegarsmkr]

If you are finding that it is more right biased. There are 2 things you can do to help offset this trend. If you have not purchased the driver getting a lower loft then turning the loft up will assist in avoiding that bias. If you own the driver then Ping allows the driver to be set more flat which will encourage a more draw/left bias.

[@noodle3872]

@@seegarsmkr Ping’s hosel starts in the most upright lie angle at standard loft. Flat setting is used to promote a more fade by pointing the loft less left/less toe up. For some golfers, the heavier head weight of the 10K makes the head rotate closed slower.

[@seegarsmkr]

@@noodle3872 I disagree, more flat is more toe up. More upright more toe down. Think of hands lower...more flat...more toe up. More upright...hands higher...more toe down.

[@matthewthompson6329]

​@@seegarsmkrMore toe up is definitely more upright

[@seegarsmkr]

@matthewthompson6329 Ok, let me get this straight. Ping has had their dot system for decades now. If I were to take a blue or green dot and give it to a person who is 5 feet tall (short wrist to floor requiring an orange or red dot) and they were to address the ball the toe of their club would be pointing to the sky. I.e. toe up. If I then gave them a more appropriate "flat" orange dot club the toe would be more down and the club head would sit flatter to the ground. Thus more flat would push the toe down.

[@matthewthompson6329]

@seegarsmkr Yes, if hands are at the same height a more upright lie angle club would have the toe further up towards the sky.

[@MikeMalkowski]

Well, technically you could have a right bias and the max, like most max sized clubs has a left bias, which worked to straighten you out. Maybe the 430 is actually neutral.

[@ScratchAt50]

Its the only driver in the last 20 years that has had a consistent right bias for me. Its not destructive though as I said in the video but there non the less

[@nisch2379]

I bought this driver on the 07/06/24, driver head cracked today 28/06/24, it sucks to pay R13000,00 for it and this happens.

[@MSG19772]

@@nisch2379 Ping will replace it.

[@nisch2379]

Update Thanks PIng, replaced with new driver today, hope it last

[@keastcw]

Hello. Would you consider sharing a little about the shafts you were using in each club? Were they the same, different, which models, etc.?

[@ScratchAt50]

Both set ups were identical, swapped the head on the same shaft, some loft, neutral set up on the G425 Max Thanks for the comment

[@arnoldvongvirath1088]

Boss, go back to my G400 max all went to center of fairway for 7 years

[@ScratchAt50]

Makes sense Arnold...

[@nischroopram9948]

I got my driver on the 07/06/24 and the head cracked on 28/06/24. Sucks

[@ScratchAt50]

I think thats very unusual/unlucky and obviously covered by the warranty. Very annoying though

[@nischroopram9948]

@ScratchAt50 hopefully, they dragging their feet arm, time when I paid it was one swipe. My friends LST the same thing happened.

[@vincejackson04]

Yeah I agree, I've switched from 430max to 10k, my miss is a hook left, has virtually disappeared with 10k and my miss now seems to be a block right.

[@ScratchAt50]

Seems to be plenty of other people who have experienced a right bias as well Vince...

[@mbrodeur86]

Were you using the same shaft in both? Interesting test

[@ScratchAt50]

Yes identical

[@mbrodeur86]

@@ScratchAt50 wonder if it sits more open. I find it weird for who that club is designed for that it's not more draw biased

[@ScratchAt50]

Defo not draw biased from my experience. Doesn't look open at address

[@josephwmergener8881]

The good thing about max vs 425 is you take one side of course out of the equation.

[@ScratchAt50]

True that can be seen as a positive by some

[@user_1664]

I thought all drivers had a right bias 😊

[@ScratchAt50]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@neoone75]

Try wilson dynapower titanium. It has left misses, far left

[@fnshouse632]

You Brits love right to left draws ! move the back end weight to compensate for the right Bias...

[@ScratchAt50]

@@fnshouse632hey thanks for the comment, you can't move the weight on the 10k, that's part of the problem.

[@fnshouse632]

@@ScratchAt50 My bad

[@MSG19772]

I could not turn this over too. 😢

[@ScratchAt50]

It's not an easy thing to do for sure 🤔

[@MSG19772]

@@ScratchAt50 I went back to my G400 Max and shots were better. No more right misse.

[@MSG19772]

@@ScratchAt50 I found that G425 has super left bias that I need to loft down. G400 Max, not too much. G430 Max, I needed to loft up a bit to avoid going left. G430 Max 10k, no matter what settings, it just would not stop going right 😂

[@LeslieGreenwood-bu9tn]

I will never buy a ping driver till they get rid of those stupid BS turbulators.

[@ScratchAt50]

But you get extra clubhead speed 🙊🤣🤣