7 Ways To Argue Better w/ Fr. Gregory Pine

[@masterchief8179]

I am a fan of Fr Gregory Pine!

[@JohnAugustine-Music]

Fr. Pine Gang Rise Up

[@justinmora9636]

Me too! He is awesome in the Aquinas 101 series!

[@malaMu3]

Me too! Adorable nerd!

[@aiantenor9080]

me too!

[@JohnAugustine-Music]

If for, whatever reason, you don't want to hear about Matt's resplendent, full-bodied, glorious beard, and simply want the straight juice, he lists the seven ways at ~7:20. They are: 1. Listen to your opponent to understand what he's arguing for or against. 2. Define terms. 3. Don't be afraid to appeal to tradition and authority. 4. Be nuanced. 5. Don't use bad arguments because they support your belief. 6. Cultivate an apologetic habit of mind. 7. Love the person you're arguing with.

[@aiantenor9080]

appreciate this!

[@kylebarrington5269]

Hey Matt and Fr. Pine, quick technical note. Fr. Pine is using his Blue Yeti (microphone) on cardioid mode while having the front of the mic pointed downward. This is going to prevent his voice from being picked up properly. He should tilt the mic back so that the front of the mic is facing his mouth, and then set it off to the side just a tad in order to prevent the "plosive" P's and air noises. It will be a much higher quality that way.

[@calebwhitlockmusic7222]

Had the same thought - would hear a significant difference, I believe.

[@louiscyfer6944]

he is nicely enjoying the side rejection quality if the cardioid pattern. he is as dumb technologically as he is about arguing.

[@benopie7772]

I just want to say that Strive works if you take it seriously and do the work. Im 5 months sober today, thanks Matt ,Strive 21 saved my life.

[@aiantenor9080]

GOD bless you and keep you!

[@lazarocastellanos6918]

I always enjoy watching and learning from Fr. Gregory Pine. I love and respect all the orders but Dominicans are just incredible.

[@dtonkin33]

“Concern about the efficacy of discourse” what a great, concise summation of the current situation in the United States

[@AdamLaCrosse]

Love me some Fr. Gregory Pine!

[@pintswithaquinas]

Hope everybody is doing great today! Here are the timestamps for today's episode: 00:00 Intro 03:00 Interview Starts - Discourse on Beards 07:06 Episode Overview: 7 Things We Can Learn from Aquinas about How to Argue 08:24 Why should we look to Thomas Aquinas for this kind of advice? 10:08 What would Aquinas think of emotional arguments for God's existence ? 12:50 What would Aquinas think of the "Moral Argument?" 14:31 1--Listen to your opponent ! 17:05 Aquinas: Think collaboratively! Look after the Truth. 19:30 Where in the Gospels do we hear what Jesus Thought? 20:09 2--Define terms before you argue ! 22:29 Applying this principle to contemporary issues. 25:03 Don't correct people's definitions. That's not the point. 27:57 What do you believe, and why do you believe it? 29:28 Matt didn't know what a blessing is... and that's ok. 30:42 3--Don't be afraid to appeal to Authority/Tradition . 33:16 4--Embrace nuance in your arguments. 34:21 Seldom Affirm; Never Deny; Always Distinguish! 37:52 Seeking stability in the modern world. Beware of demagogues. 42:04 5: Don't use bad arguments because they support your beliefs. 46:27 Bad Arguments for God's Existence? 50:08 6--Cultivate an apologetic habit of mind 53:51 You don't need to convince other people, to be right. 54:30 Ask, "what's the most this proves?" 57:50 7--Love the person you're arguing with? Cliche? 1:00:51 Jason Evert: "Take a wholistic interest in the person's life" 1:03:54 "Godsplaining!" 1:05:09 Not liking great writers. (maybe Fr. Pine is just a bad person?) 1:06:33 Conclusion 1:08:03 Outro

[@piowave4076]

This is great Mr. Fradd. God bless you and your family. VIVA CRISTO REY! AVE MARIA! ❤️✝️

[@lisac5287]

A Quiet Light. I've recieved it, now to read it. :)

[@gregoryvess7183]

Obscurantism: “1: opposition to the spread of knowledge : a policy of withholding knowledge from the general public” (Merriam-Webster). Spot on, Fr. Gregory!

[@Nunwannabe1234]

But I also do love it when he makes up words😂❤

[@mchristr]

Argumentation is part art and part science. Young philosophers are full of science but not much art, which comes with age and practice. One of my strategies is to find common ground as soon as I can.

[@chance9460]

Fr. Pine and Fr. O'Loughlin have to be my two favorite guests that you have had on. I'd really like to see those two get together!

[@malaMu3]

Agreed. Plus s. Natalia!

[@wesleystinson7786]

Thank you for the great video!

[@weinschelbarretto3263]

Hey Matt! It would be great if you could have Brian Holdsworth and/or Karlo Broussard on your show. Karlo has a book on purgatory coming out, which could be a topic of discussion. Keep up the great content!

[@Alexander-fr1kk]

If you want to get better at arguing get married 🤣🤣🤣

[@sandragoss48]

Very helpful in understanding arguing with the help of Aquinas. 👏👏👏❣️

[@JamesWilliams-eu5mn]

I'm definitely going on a winning streak after listening to this

[@stevengroth2515]

Matt, for the sake of kissing, consider changing to "the whaler" for a beard. You basically cut off the mustache and leave the rest. It is a great marital compromise, and it helps with eating soup. Also as a recent convert this podcast has been so helpful in learning to explain my views with grace and love instead of just trying to prove others wrong or avoiding differences with my protestant friends. Thanks to you and everyone that helps put this all together, keep up the good work!

[@thanderhop1489]

26:10 I would really like to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation. I wonder if any Dominican has given a talk (or will?) on that topic at that level of technical detail.

[@hilmag945]

Thank you!

[@tylergranville8310]

34:46 Patrick Madrid always says this on Relevant Radio

[@Ebradley2351]

I think Sheen's point was that those who are more in the Ivan Karamazov territory of total rebellion against God are in the curious position of hating something they claim does not exist. Sheen told a story about a militant woman who was handing out atheist pamphlets in a church where he happened to be serving. When he approached the woman, who viewed him with complete scorn, he said the line about hating something that doesn't exist. The woman told him that she hated him as well, and stormed out. He had an uncanny ability of telling when someone was not arguing in good faith. But apart from that, you're right, it's a terrible argument.

[@DominicTortolano]

Great content

[@jonhowerton2537]

I like how you have a tab open of the pastor Steven Anderson lol. Him and I got into a heated debate in my world religions class, also went to his church one time like 20min from my house lol.

[@gavinmasterson7843]

Could you do another one of these?

[@firstlast542]

THE MIGHTY PINE! Get him some chick fil a!

[@marrgwendickson2820]

G’day Greg-oreeeee! 😉

[@TacosnZorro]

Woman here. DON'T SHAVE, MATT. It's majestic.

[@Nunwannabe1234]

I'm with his wife, why cover up all that handsome?😂😊

[@stephaniecoons8822]

Nice beard! Cheers from Florida, USA

[@shashikamanoj1160]

Genius!

[@libertasinveritas3198]

The women did what? 😳😅 I love beards and my husband isn't allowed to shave his off. 🤭

[@TacosnZorro]

Same ^

[@NateSelof]

Matt can you try to connect with Genetically Modified Skeptic? Much of his characterization of Christianity sounds like evangelicals. But I'm really curious about his thoughts on the Catholic understanding of the bible and Christianity.

[@TacosnZorro]

Cameron from Capturing Christianity has talked to GMS. GOOD video!

[@NateSelof]

@@TacosnZorro awesome, I'll check it out.

[@evansmith2018]

I can't believe I'd never thought of the frozen embryo dilemma before. If you allow them to die, that's an evil, but so is implanting them in wombs, correct? Is there anything nearing a decision coming from the Magisterium?

[@chrispy4636]

I feel like I need a dictionary when listening to Fr Pine, his vocab is just too vast!

[@aiantenor9080]

same here! i actually was pausing the video every now and then to just look up the terms! Now i can say I've improved my vocabulary!

[@Nunwannabe1234]

I also stop to look up words, It's definitely increasing my vocabulary😂😂😂

[@VACatholic]

39:00 The Weimar Republik also gave us the first transgender surgeries, homosexuality as the norm, and mother-daughter prostitution teams. The history and lineage of which has been completely ignored.

[@vincent-antoinesoucy1872]

Sources?

[@VACatholic]

@@vincent-antoinesoucy1872 wiki? During the Weimar Republic, Berlin was a liberal city with one of the most active LGBT rights movements in the world. Magnus Hirschfeld co-founded the Scientific-Humanitarian Committee (WhK) in Berlin and sought social recognition of homosexual and transgender men and women; with branches in several countries, the committee was (on a small scale) the first international LGBT organization. In 1919, Hirschfeld co-founded the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, a sexology research institute with a research library, a large archive, and a marriage and sex counseling office. The institute was a worldwide pioneer in the call for civil rights and social acceptance for homosexual and transgender people. Hirschfeld coined the word transvestite. In 1930 and 1931, with Hirschfeld's (and other doctors') help, Dora Richter became the first known trans woman to undergo vaginoplasty, along with removal of the penis (following removal of testicles several years earlier),[357] and Lili Elbe underwent similar surgeries in Dresden, including an unsuccessful ovary and uterus transplant, complications from which resulted in her death.[339][358][359][360] In 1933, the Nazis burned the Institute's library.[361]

[@vincent-antoinesoucy1872]

@@VACatholic well thanks never knew about that.

[@VACatholic]

@@vincent-antoinesoucy1872 Weird how that gets left out of the history books, isn't it?

[@syedhasanahmed3514]

People should follow these rules when discussing with Muslims.

[@antoniopioavallone1137]

in order to know how make nuances i suggest you to go to the school of micheal lofton.

[@supergene256]

Matt...your beard looks awesome. It does. Some women say they like the feel of their man’s beard on their face. However, if your wife won’t kiss you you either need to change her mind (you’re good at that) or shave it

[@YoungGoc]

Is it just me, or is the thumbnail a picture of someone else?

[@tabberluck47]

Father Pine's vocabulary is redonkulous.

[@heathershipley6804]

Matt I think your wife should not shave her legs until you shave your beard!!!

[@Nunwannabe1234]

Actually I told my husband I wouldn't shave under my arms until he shaved his stupid beard.Bleh😂

[@sandragoss48]

Maybe women in general could accept your beard if we were not distracted by you pulling at it a good deal of the time. Saying this with kindness. Should you care why women don’t like beards.

[@TacosnZorro]

I love beards! To each their own :)

[@chosenskeptic5319]

Lol, argument is insufficient proof. If it was proof, it would be called fact. Therefore, all philosophical aka metaphysical “a priori” reasoning is an automatic fail

[@chosenskeptic5319]

Matt Blaise 🤔 I’m very factual and reject insufficient claims. FAITH scripturally, is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen 🤔. Never said Jesus didn’t exist. But which Jesus? The misunderstood suffering servant of Mark? Or the multiple different competing theologies of Matthew and Luke’s demigod? Or the early churches theological fully god who’s all about himself in John? Or the fictional Jesus where all four Gospels shoved into one persona as propagandized by the modern apologetics of today ? 🤔 I met God a few times. When he wants you to know, you will know. But those blinded by the dumpster fire 🔥 of deceitful apologetic trash will never find the real Jesus. So God came to me, and asked me to write the truth. I said yes. Therefore, I don’t accept trash in my theology.

[@masterchief8179]

Chosen Skeptic My friend, I am afraid the “God” that appeared to you and made you come to Christian apologetics pages to claim everything Christian is false... Well, it is not “God”. Hope you realize it, because your obstinacy is kind of embarrassing. Your language is that you were “Chosen” in any kind of experience; your videos, many of them are denying the existence... Of Satan. Well, my friend. I am praying for you. From a Brazilian friend.

[@chosenskeptic5319]

Master Chief 🤔 your wrong, just because your biased personal incredulity doesn’t allow to accept God talking to me, is your problem. And that you need to take up your issues with God for that blasphemy. 🤔 and stop putting false words in my mouth claiming that I said everything in Christianity is false, so stop that dumpster fire of a lie now. And quit ignoring the question. Your the one’s claiming there is sufficient facts to know the real Jesus. WHICH JESUS ? Marks? Matthew and Luke’s? John’s? Or the apologetic own version of Jesus? 🤔 what is embarrassing is your inability to answer the question honestly, instead or redirecting with meaningless babble of embarrassment.

[@chosenskeptic5319]

Master Chief 🤔 first of all masterless chief, we are not friends. And secondly, save your prayers for yourself. Satan, according to scriptures is any adversary that opposes god’s will. 🤔 the Jew’s and Judas that betrayed Jesus did not sin, nor were they adversaries of God will. They fulfilled god’s will of salvation at the cross. As for sin, Adam did not bring it into the world according to Hebrew Scriptures. According to NT scriptures, Moses brought sin into the world with the Mosaic Covenant at Mt. Sinai. For sin is transgression against the Mosaic Law ... mic drop 😮

[@masterchief8179]

Chosen Skeptic That’s ok, my friend. Good luck for you.