Pioneer DDJ-REV7 BUGS and crossfader issue

[@hiphopsuperman]

For that 1st "bug": I confirm the NS7III behaves the same way. I believe the Rane One has the same "problem". However, this isn't a bug. It's intentionally designed this way. As a turtablist, you know a traditional turntable doesn't instant start. With even the highest torque, a turntable has a short wind-up period when hitting play. These motorized platters have the same problem to overcome. However, the Serato engineers realized they can instant start a sound, even on a motorized platter, if they program the software to ignore that wind-up period of the platter. When you hit play, it takes Serato a half second to know if you are holding the platter or if it's just winding up. That's the short sound you hear. Hope that makes sense? Cheers!

[@djsupafly1]

Yeah it makes sense, turning the start time in serato settings alleviates this but eliminates the fast start option to use it as a controller. I would have to switch the settings every time and would be bothersome to keep changing it to get the overall outcome of a bug that shouldn't be there in the first place.

[@mixmastertoronto]

That’s what “silent cue” is for.

[@edwindedios1892]

Back in my days we scratch on a realistic mixer from radioshack we improvise and we are happy 😃

[@djkifkif]

I test this on my numark ns7 3, i found the same issue on start stop, when i put my hand on vinyl and press start, i hear the song start playing. But with your tip, i push the start time buton just a little bit, it work for me. Thank you 🙏 it seems like a serato issue.

[@RichardTabar]

I had my 1st event with mine and had several glitches. Kept freezing up on me. Changed the USB cable and that fixed that issue. Randomly stopped playing a track. Gotta see if I can duplicate that. But happened twice.

[@mikesterloc]

The vinyl hold/play thing on my SC6000Ms has the same issue when using either serato or stand alone mode. Never really noticed until watching this vid.

[@curt356]

My Rane One does it along with the Rane 12 as well.

[@djsupafly1]

yeah it's a serato bug

[@curt356]

I didn't look at it as a bug. I thought because it's a motorized platter it would prevent any song from having a drag when you hit the start button.

[@harlemfire]

I heard it does that to prevent wind up sound so you get an instant start. Once the device recognize you're holding the platter it stops and sets it back to the point where you are holding it

[@curt356]

I figured it was something like that. Great work. Salute! 🤜🏿🤛🏿

[@joachimjohann873]

the same first issue is experienced on Rane twelve MK2 (hand down and platter not moving on platter and pressing start button)

[@djdale.5806]

The Rane one is completely different. It is basically. Two channel version of the Numark ns7 three with fewer functions. It also uses the exact same motor drives from the Numark Ns7. I own both. Including a rev 7

[@mark_spit7839]

That issue you're having with the platter / track jumping back is because you have the stop speed knob adjusted to the fastest position. If you turn it clockwise a bit, it should help. This also happens on Technics if they're not calibrated properly.

[@djsupafly1]

yeah I've done this but it eliminates the fast start controller dj's are used to. I would have to go in settings everytime I have to switch it.

[@hollywoodthedj1673]

@@djsupafly1 ... welp nothing is perfect with every piece of equipment it’s always going to be something you have to live with and just work around it that’s technology for ya lol!

[@mark_spit7839]

@@djsupafly1 So my friend came by with his Rane 1 this weekend and we messed about with the Stop Time knob on the controller. If it's adjusted all the way to the fastest setting, it behaves just like your Rev 7 - it jerks back just a little bit and starts instantly. When adjusted to the 12:00 position it grinds to a halt, BUT STILL STARTS UP INSTANTLY. Even at the slowest Stop setting it starts up just fine - does not wind up. I've checked the manuals online for both Pio and Rane units, and that function is only supposed to affect Stop Time; NOT Start Time. I honestly don't think it's a Serato issue, but it could be a firmware issue on Pioneers' end. However, If indeed it is a Serato problem, have you updated to the latest software? If not, try that. And just to be clear: You have tried adjusting the physical knob on the controller, right? You didn't show that in your vid; only when you went into Serato settings. Your problem is really baking my noodle lol!

[@Papii7even]

Can you tell me why the sound is bleeding over. I play one side but the other is still playing. Even when I turn the volume faders down it doesn’t turn down

[@djsupafly1]

Check your main levels in Serato

[@franklynthree]

I have the same issue with my fader...this fader is not the same as the fader inside the djm s11 not even close ...im sending mine back

[@djtovitz]

Did you use the Oil to improve her Crossfader? mine is like that too !!! Tks bro !! Good Video

[@djsupafly1]

Yes! I have a seperate video using a different method.

[@tedmosby9409]

the fader is a isue but there rest is software i use mixx . i have ton of bugs

[@djngakaartistico8258]

Bro! I had the same issues. Specially with fader I thought I was tripping! Let me how you were able to fix the fader issue

[@djsupafly1]

I took it out and cleaned the rails and applied some sewing machine oil. It was no easy task as there is a metal component blocking access to the fader enclosure.

[@djpatconlon]

@@djsupafly1 did that do the trick? Mine isn’t as bad as yours seemed but still not as smooth as my s11 which is just super annoying

[@mydudethedj]

@@djsupafly1 wait.. how did you open the REV7 to get to the crossfader? You unscrewed all the screws at the bottom? Damn you got super tech on us! Let me know how you did it!? Because that might come in handy if I decide to swap the crossfader.

[@djsupafly1]

@@mydudethedj yes I had to remove a board with lots of connections just to remove the crossfader.

[@djsupafly1]

@@djpatconlon yes it fixed it with Machine oil

[@gusgomez7660]

I have the issue of my first left hand cue point linstead of hitting the first cue it hits the first sample 🤦🏻‍♂️ it’s crazy is anyone else having that issue?

[@mydudethedj]

For the fader issue, you can purchase fader lubricants at your local Guitar Center or you can use WD-40 but only add half of a drop on the fader rail... I was having the same issue with my REV-7 fader but you have to go back to basics and as an older head in the game we know bout lubing faders 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣.. from the Vestax era to the Rane era! Fader Lubes is a must! LOL .. Hope that helps! 👊🏼✊🏼✌🏼

[@djsupafly1]

Yes I've used all of the old fader lube. I found that the maintanence was higher with those. The machine sewing oil has worked for me.

[@djpatconlon]

In order to apply fader lube or wd40 do you have to disassemble or can you just shoot some into the opening lol

[@mydudethedj]

@@djpatconlon i recommend using that little straw that most lube bottles come with or the red one that comes with WD-40.. but because these are magnetic crossfaders, I strongly suggest that you do NOT spray directly in the crossfader.. what I do is spray it away from the unit and then ONLY use the drips from the spray.. and ONLY let half of that drip contact the rail inside the crossfader, meaning insert the straw to the top rail in the crossfader and ONLY let a little bit of the residue that drips make contact!.. and then flick the fader left to right and you’ll notice it smooth out. You CAN NOT fully spray in the crossfader because it will gunk up in time and that gunk won’t allow the fader to make contact with the magnets. Hope you get what I’m saying and good luck! (Im not responsible for any damages) ✊🏼🤞🏼✌🏼

[@djpatconlon]

@@mydudethedj my f*ckin’ dude 🤙🏻 I ordered some off amazon. I’ll try to recreate what you explained and I’ll let you know how it goes! Thanks again

[@mydudethedj]

@@djsupafly1 I strongly believe that that lube from the sewing machines will work too. Plus, don’t judge but I love the smell of that one! Takes me back when I was a kid and my grandma was sewing my torn pants from accidents on my bike! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣.. So ya I support this comment! LOL

[@djlu_247]

My Rane one does the same I don’t think it’s serato I think is the way the controllers spinning decks are made !!

[@GroundBeatDe]

hi...uhh...everytime i used moving platters, i ended returning to the turntables and a mixer with innofader :D. The first problem its because serato dont wannt you to hear the "up speed" when starting a song (woouuuu till the speed is constant), so they buffer 1 sec of the song. Even the sl dz 1200 got a similar function to override this :D (i know, im old). The NS make the same thing, so i really dont know if they are going to change that. :( . But the sad part is the crossfader :(. That really sucks. At the end nothing beat the real deal (tts), but im pretty shure you know that :D :D :D. Nice video man.

[@djblack7079]

That's why I love my Technics 1200 they can have that new junk they should have made it the same way like the turntable everything on it

[@brame75]

You got rid of your rane 72? And if you did what made you change?

[@djsupafly1]

Not the same quality as before.

[@brame75]

@@djsupafly1 thank you. I got the 72 after watching your review. Just got the s11 last week and I was not feeling the 72 and you just confirmed what I was feeling. Thanks again. Keep up the good work

[@oldschooldjernie]

I see that thing breaking within a year, I'd sell it ASAP

[@CarlosMunoz1980]

That’s why I stay away from pioneer

[@elpapito7809]

All motorised controller are behaving the same on serato (NS7, Rane One…)