Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R vs Toyo R888 vs Giti Sport GTR3. What's the best track day tyre?

[@tyrereviews]

Want to know more about the Giti? I've fitted a set to my daily M3 so go follow me on instagram for on the road details! instagram.com/tyre_reviews/

[@r129r16pfl]

Top content! Thumbs up! I am very interested in Nankang AR1 vs Federal FZ201 vs Toyo R888R

[@_xtreme.]

nankang ns-2r (two compounds), toyo r1r, toyo r888r.

[@Lethal_Intent]

Maybe a budget trackday showdown with some different brands like not the internet favourites. Something like nankang ns2r, westlake sport rs, Achilles 123s, fedral rsrr along them lines now that would be interesting. Also maybe price to perfomance comparison to the big brands.

[@GuysThatDrive]

Absolutely more track tyre content please!

[@GuysThatDrive]

Yes lots more track tyre content, please do the full range from budget to full slick and include the trofeo r for comparison too

[@Norbury90]

I find it amazing how big an effect tyres can have on a sports car. If you went into a dealer and bought an M2 on one set of tyres you might not be particularly impressed with it, but be blown away by it on another set. People don't understand this enough. Keep it up, great video

[@r129r16pfl]

Agree tires make a massive difference, in fact it's the most effective performance mod, if you want to reduce the laptime

[@tyrereviews]

Couldn't have put it better myself :)

[@Batmanforever6969]

But then there is people that put an amazing tire on a really slow car which is just overkill

[@KXP70]

W S or if they can't afford a fast car due to insurance being extortionate then it makes said slow car the best it can be.

[@steventoo]

100%. I bought a C63s AMG wagon. It came from the dealer with Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2's, and I thought the car was rubbish. The ride was awful, it really struggled for traction, the front end just didn't want to turn, and I ended up putting the car on consignment. I got a call from the dealer saying that the car was sold on the condition that I put new tyres on it. I went for Michelin PS4S and the car was COMPLETELY different. I'd already allocated the money to other things and couldn't keep it, but the tyres made all the difference :(

[@GrandSavrify]

I have tried almost every tire brand including those cheap ones, I couldn't forget how well balance and grippy a michelin tire was, how pointy a yokohama can be, and how durable a bridgestone can last. Recently I have changed a set of Giti S2 and I can assure you it is basically a cheaper version of Michelin PS4. It saves my wallet and satisfaction by a big margin, I hope Giti is keeping their quality without increasing its' price. Last but not least, I have to thank tyrereview's professional and honest review throughout the years, it is really helpful when we are looking for the better deals! Keep up the good work guys!

[@iamryanlittle]

What's up, Tyre Reviews?! Ryan Little here. It's super cool to hear my music in your video. Much love.

[@tyrereviews]

Dude you've got all the tallent, love your stuff!

[@Xav911]

The M2 looks so good with these wheels.

[@tyrereviews]

I really liked the bronze wheels on it!

[@Luke_lw]

what brand are the wheels? Thanks

[@tyrereviews]

zitowheels.net/wheels/zf01/ Zito ZF01

[@Skirk84]

Tyre reviews, what psi did you run in each set of tires???? Because as you know a track tire like Trofeo R will respond very well in a car weighing similar to an M2 at between 28 and 33psi hot and a street tire will run 33-40psi hot. Heres the tricky part, if you've done any study at all on the r888 you will realise the sidewalls are quite soft, and this becomes worse once warm. Toyo actually recommend varying tire pressures as per the weight of the car and they are unusually high but work extremely well. This is what I have found, 1400-1600kg car should run 36-42psi hot. Which takes about 2 laps off the life until they overheat and you need a cooldown lap, however the grip for the 5 laps before that are unreal. Many track days ive heard people complain about their r888's and EVERY single one of them are running close to 30psi hot. I instantly facepalm and offer a suggestion, we pump them up and send them back out. A bmw z4 improved his time by 6 seconds, an r35 gtr by 3 seconds, and a Supra by 5 seconds on a 1min 40 lap circuit. As soon as my car drops below 36psi you can safely knock 1.5 seconds off my lap time. Nobody runs an r compound semi slick that high, but with r888 you need to, and its a big improvement. I have turned people from hating the tire to now saying its the only thing they will run. Im assuming you ran them too low, because anyone who says the toyo is noisy is obviously running them below 36psi. Its actually quieter than the trofeo R if you run the pressures correctly, tho i am still faster by 0.15 of a second on the trofeo r, having about 60 laps under my belt with the trofeo r and well over 100 with the r888.

[@tyrereviews]

Great information, thank you. In the interests of keeping things fair, we ran all three tyres at the same pressure, which I think was 35psi hot.

[@ezra5485]

It would be really fair if you were running them at the manufacturers recommended pressure

[@emmanuellehuu8818]

@@ezra5485 yeah

[@RoadandRacetv]

Stunning. An excellent video for those of us, like me, who want a good track tyre that you can use on the road. Subscribed.

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks, appreciated :) Nice channel too btw, subbed

[@adamhallwood5768]

I have no intention of buying any of these tires, yet I'm still watching and finding it very interesting. Great work.

[@tyrereviews]

haha, thank you!

[@woshikakadong]

I'm here sitting in the basement eating my 5 dollar subway footlong sandwich watching fancy cars and fancy tires that I can't afford, take a sip of my mountain dew btw nice tires

[@laochek]

You made it like child’s play reviewing and thinking while driving to get a good timing. Imagine you drive with full concentration!! My go to channel before i buy tyres. Thank you

[@simonworthington-eyre3525]

I have Giti Comfort 228 tyres on my MG3, they are excellent tyres wet or dry and are amazing value for the price, definitely recommend them!

[@stefstef4895]

Excellent video, as always. What is painfully obvious to me is that little by little over time there is no reason whatsoever not to opt for a 'second' brand. I mean, who knew of Giti until recently? And now they not only throw the gauntlet, but pick it up as well. Well done.

[@DavidWhite-qm8wd]

Keep up the great work, used to rely on word of mouth or garage recommendations when sourcing new tyres, these reviews seem to be more honest and "real-world"!!

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you're finding the site useful :)

[@jeremyr7147]

I've been selling Giti tires the last year or two. Very good tires for the money price is right. The car tire ride great. I've also had amazing results with Thunderer at half the price of a sumitomo. The thunderer ride is amazing in 235 40 18s.

[@Iron883Man]

I have the same experience with the P Zero. Fenomenal tire in the dry, but very twitchy in the wet. The Pirellis are the best you can get for dry grip. Downside is their price and the fact they wear and tear faster than any other A brand tire I ever had. The only one that is probably a better overall package than the Pirelli will be the Michelin PS Cup. They are slightly more expensive, but they offer almost as much grip in the dry, are extremely good in the wet (probably as good as a semi slick can get) and they don't wear nearly as fast as the Pirelli.

[@tyrereviews]

You've nailed how I feel about these tyres, the Pirelli was included as I wanted the ultimate dry lap. Michelin now make the Cup 2 R which is more dry focused.

[@davidv00]

versus Yokohama AD08R please

[@law5223]

Dave Vo this ^ :)

[@tyrereviews]

I really need to do the full track day tyre test :)

[@KXP70]

Tyre Reviews would love to see the Giti Vs Cup 2's

[@keesie75]

Federal 595RS-R would also be nice to see

[@tdm4485]

vs nankang ns2r

[@appleaday3868]

Always in for a suprise with your tire reviews, appreciate it!

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoy them :)

[@LapoftheWorld]

Late to the party here, but having run R888s and assorted 200tw rubber (Old Dunlop Z1s, Nitto NT05, and currently Falken RT615K+) I always felt like they were close to the same in one-lap absolute pace. The Toyos put up with heat a little better in longer driving sessions, but sacrifice a lot of road comfort to do so (which is whatever because that's not what they're made for).

[@tyrereviews]

Better late than never :)

[@MultiTopgearfan]

First time viewer here, never knew a video about tires would be so interesting to watch. Subscribed!!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you!

[@baldheadracing]

Interesting how the market is different in the UK vs. North America: Trofeo R - heat cycles out instantly so only for people with lots of money who won't buy Hoosier R7's; R888 - trashed by pretty much everyone in North America sooo hard at introduction years ago - everybody wanted a better RA-1 - that Toyo almost instantly started importing the R888R, which is so (relatively) slow that '200' (ha!) treadwear tires like the RE-71R are typically faster, albeit nowhere near as long-lasting on track; and I've never heard of the third tire - but I would caution against saying anything about a prototype tire. The 200 treadwear market is huge in North America due to competition rulesets, with everything from tires good for only a couple hot laps (RE-71R) to tires good for endurance races all wearing the '200' rating. Still, it is nice to see what is available in other countries. Keep up the great work, and plan on running street cars with a full tank!

[@krichd1]

Yeah, the 200 treadwear market is very interesting in North America. I think the best is the Yokohama ADVAN A052, it has better grip than the RE-71R and last longer. For endurance race, the Hankook RS4 still would be my choose. Best bang for the buck is definitely the Accelera 651 Sport right now.

[@aiGeis]

Bullshit, r888s were out for over a decade before r888r was introduced, and nearly everyone stateside runs them as a budget semi-slick. Furthermore, treadwear ratings don't really mean anything, if you knew anything about tires you would know that.

[@mrbbs]

Congratz again in making these videos, it's really valuable to see someone test it which actually understands it well. I have test also many tires on my cars although it always comes at a cost :|

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks :) Glad you're enjoying them

[@mrbbs]

Tyre Reviews I used to have to R888 in 215/45 R17 and 235/45R17 on my s2000. I just replaced them with 215/45R17 - 245/40R17 Michelin PS4S tires from the US to Belgium as they're only delivered in Europe from 17" onwards. However the rear is how much to planted and I have considerably understeer at turn in. I'm now considering replacing them with PS4 in 225/45R17 for the fronts and 235/45R17 on the rear. What do you think from your experience? I also run a gt86 on Michelin PSS in 215/45R17 and I like the oversteer behavior. So that's also what I'm checking in the S2000.

[@mrbbs]

Tyre Reviews cfr my video on what style I like kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4m1eqt3f5ycp7s me videos on the channel. Thanks for the advise!

[@tyrereviews]

Nice drifting :) Check out my last video regarding tyre widths, it should answer some of your questions :)

[@thomastthomas]

Wow, this is one of the or the only Giti tyre review in youtube I could find. Can you do more reviews on Giti control 288 Giti comfort and Giti SUV tyres? Really would love to learn how they work on normal everyday cars. Great reviews. Subscribed.

[@tyrereviews]

There's data on www.tyrereviews.co.uk

[@mikenorris5378]

Keep this going, very thorough testing, a unique channel.

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :)

[@STIGRS]

Respect your hard work!!!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you, appreciated :)

[@thomas20021234]

Get the re71r into comparison please, they are by far i get most fun out of my mx5.

[@tyrereviews]

Tricky to find in Europe but I'll do my best

[@AaronAnonymous]

If you like the re71r your might wanna check out the Dunlop ZIII. I’m hoping later Dunlop will release a star spec version, but the ZII (last gen.) was only marginally slower than the re71r. So the new ZIII is probably better.

[@thomas20021234]

I used the ZII STAR IN MY MX5 , first they are ok tyre in dry but wet they are terrible. I have lot of confidence in re71-r even in wet driving condition on the highway around 140-150KM, but the ZII STAR will not give me that confidence at all. ZIII is already out in Hong Kong and people bought it said they are no match to the re71-R too.

[@thomas20021234]

I will say ZII STAR for a road tyre, they are good for your money, but once you get your hands on on these re71-R, the world change :)

[@FairladyS130]

Interesting review, thanks for the effort. On the R888 and R888R, these are not liked in Australia for track days, they are sold as a semi slick but don't perform anywhere near the best semi slicks.

[@cristosantana9967]

R888R es un gran semislicks en tramos de rally de asfalto. El circuito no es su mejor prestación. Además, no funciona bien en coches de más de 1200 Ó 1300 kgs.

[@Moriquendiii]

Good video, but sad to see you only included 3 tyres. Would really have loved seeing a full track day tyre test with atleast the Cup 2 and AD08R in there aswell(and the new R888r). Now it almost comes off as a review of the GITI GTR3. Tough luck on the moody M2 spoiling your test evening, but you saved it pretty good. Liked and subbed, hoping for a full track tyre shootout!

[@tyrereviews]

I would have loved that too... which is why I'm going to have to do one next year :)

[@HassanEido1]

Love these reviews

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks :)

[@clubsportf56s48]

The R888R on my 285hp Mini were great. But the noise was awfull for daily driving. Can you do a 17" trackday tyre test? Because its a limited tyre size

[@r129r16pfl]

I love the noise!

[@Skirk84]

If the noise is loud with r888 your tire pressures are too low. This is also costing you lap times. Increase your tire pressure. R888 are silent

[@Blatchie224]

Bronze alloys looked amazing!

[@JD2ndcity]

Great video. Here's an idea for a test... PS4S v CS6 v GTR3 v PS91 v FK510

[@tyrereviews]

I plan on this, only bigger at the start of next year. It takes a huge amount of organizing!

[@law5223]

Great video and +1 for full track day tyre test 👌

[@tyrereviews]

On it :)

[@1061shrink1061]

I was lucky enough I experience the trofeo R at snetterton this week. They’d been freshly installed on a GT3 RS. Previous experience was on cup 2. Very impressed, better grip than standard cup2 and stayed on boil for a long time at high speeds and some hard braking. They were even quite good from cold (18 degree ambient). Wouldn’t want to use them in any kind of wet though!

[@tyrereviews]

Sounds like you nailed the review, that sums them up really well

[@pooceq]

Not bad for a brand I wasn't aware of. Never even thought there was a tyre brand from Singapore

[@tyrereviews]

Offices in Singapore but manufacturer in China

[@johton]

I had the Federal 595RSR and it was a great compromise occasional track day tyre on my every day car (tuned Mazda 3MPS which was terrible on my factory tyres on the track) - very good wear and wet performance was great. Front end grip was excellent and I could really push the front wheel drive as much as I dared without just understeering under power. Puncture resistance not so great but I would think its good value for the perfomance.

[@tyrereviews]

I'll add them to the list to test :)

[@inodew6178]

Have you compared Trofeo R vs Cup 2 R? We would like see which one is faster around track. You have very nice reviews.

[@YZJB]

Great comparison! Really surprised by the Giti

[@tyrereviews]

You and me both!

[@YZJB]

Tyre Reviews Ever heard of CEAT tyres before? Used to be Italian, now Indian, and we’re about to do some durability testing for them in Australia. Their benchmark tyre is the PS4!! This will be interesting

[@tyrereviews]

I have heard of them, never used them. Let me know how they get on!

[@justinturner4850]

Thank you for the information. I’m very curious how tweaking tire pressures can change the characteristics of tires. For example: Would lowering pressure up front and raising pressure in the rear help fight understeer? Thanks again.

[@tyrereviews]

Working on it :)

[@271production]

Awesome video dude! Not many youtube channels that review car tyres in an unbiased way, using both subjective and objective data. Keep up the good work!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :) Really appreciated!

[@larryhernandez5062]

You're Videos Are Very Educational . Can't Wait For Next Videos . . . .

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoy them :)

[@thunderbeardk]

The Toyos love camber. They crave camber. They're rubbish without enough camber, and will scrub hard over the shoulder. I run the R888R on my ZR1 at various American tracks.

[@tyrereviews]

Most track tyres love camber tbf, so the Pirelli would have love more too.

[@DrivingExpedition]

I am very impressed with Giti.

[@konstantinmoraglis5300]

Very interresting . Love Cadwell park . Thank you

[@tyrereviews]

Us too!

[@JakobusVdL]

Hi, I've just found your channel, and watched a few of the reviews. They are great, lots of interesting tyre information, Thank you. Subscribed now, and looking forward to checking out the existing vids, and the new ones as they come out.

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :)

[@classiccarssp]

Great test! Hope your channel get all the suport

[@tyrereviews]

Thanks man, appreciated!

[@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast]

Will you do a 200 tw track day and auto cross tire test? So re71, rival 1.5s, kumho. 19 30 305. Rival just released that size.

[@sebastianschmidt5529]

Could you please test the Federal RS-R, Federal RS-Pro, Syron Street Race, Banking NS-2R and compare to the Cup 2, AD08 RS or some other Semi-Slicks/UHP tires in size 225/45/17? Greetings...

[@JaZoN_XD]

How does the Trofeo R compare to the Cup 2s? I always hear about these two tires, but I have no idea which one's better or what's the difference.

[@KXP70]

Trofeo R is the better trackday tyre while the Cup 2 isn't at a major deficit to it but mixes track and road duties so much better. I would (and do) daily Cup 2's year round whereas I wouldn't even consider doing so with Trofeos.

[@tyrereviews]

Kurt nailed it! Not that I'd want to run the Cup 2 year round either, but it's certainly easier than the Trofeo R! Michelin just announced the Cup 2 R which is more dry focused

[@richcinematics3944]

Tyre Reviews Didn't they already use the cup 2 R for a number of track records on the Nordschleife? It think the Porsche gt2 RS used them. So it kinda should be already in production. (Maybe just some prototypes yet..^^)

[@tyrereviews]

Cup 2 R is currently only in the Porsche sizes and OE fitment, there's not yet any aftermarket or sizes for an m2

[@richcinematics3944]

Tyre Reviews Ah ok, thanks. :) So it's just Porsche exclusiv. I'm curious to see how they will stretch their line-up. Thank you for your reviews! Have a nice day!

[@patrickchristian1687]

Hi, can you tell me something about the rolling noice of the Pirelli Trofeo compared to the R888, please. Is it quieter? :)

[@tyrereviews]

I'm sorry I don't recall now

[@nezabytes]

Yeah, we need to know.

[@Savineyard3]

What size tires did you use all around? If I were to guess, I'd say they look like 255/30/r19s front and 285/30/r19s in the rear. If not 30 in height then 35.

[@tyrereviews]

Stock M2 sizes, 245/35 and 265/35 R19s

[@DontPanicDear]

Subscribed and watched all your videos this evening. Really enjoyed the rare proper technical detail, presentation and natural style! Cheers Jonathan 👍🏻 I’d personally like to see some Porsche N rated versions of Pirelli and Michelin tested back to back. A little niche perhaps, but we’re all stuck on these N versions while under warranty!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :) That video is on the list, but it's proving tricky to get a tyre company to support!

[@DontPanicDear]

Tyre Reviews Yes, I can imagine! It’s essentially Pirelli vs Goodyear vs Michelin and nobody want’s to come 3rd! Btw, I’ve looked at Tyre Reviews site / ratings before. I’ve always been cautious of end used unqualified % scores though. (Especially after an FK452 purchase disaster) It’s great that you’re properly explaining your findings and reasons in these videos. I’m currently on P-Zero N1, which are a massive step on from N0! Such progress, but I doubt I’ll ever experience that ‘Eureka’ moment again, as when I first drove a 130i on a set of PS2!

[@beafboy01]

I'd have to say I disagree with your opinion on the R888. If you learn to keep the heat in, they're great. Although still nowhere near AD08R's for me though.

[@tyrereviews]

PErhaps they just don't work on an M2 as we tried at a different track too and they wouldn't work.

[@alfredkoh3458]

Hi, i would really love to see a comparison between Pirelli Pzero vs PS4S vs CSC6 vs ExtremeContact Sport. BTW, which tyre you would recommend that has hard side wall for daily spirited drive? the Conti CSC6 and ECS have soft side wall which i do not really like them. Im on 19" 3 series.

[@tyrereviews]

The SuperSport has better sidewalls than the PS4S, the CSC6 and 4S are broadly similar. I've never driven on the ExtremeContactSport, I thought it was the US version of the CSC6 but I see they're both available now in America. I'll have to do a little more research!

[@alfredkoh3458]

Based on my understanding, SuperSport is obsoleted and wholly replaced by PS4S. CSC6 and ECS are different models. They are both available in my country (Malaysia) with ECS 20% cheaper than CSC6 which got me curious whether the extra 20% is worth or not. Looking forward to see that in your upcoming videos. Good Job.

[@tyrereviews]

I've asked Conti for the data so will report back if I hear something :)

[@sashidemedia]

How do the Michelin 4s compare to Toyo and giti

[@tyrereviews]

Not sure yet. I imagine better all round tyre but a little softer steering

[@bign1667]

I thought Michelin 4s was the best so surprised it's not in the test

[@tyrereviews]

The 4S is a UHP tyre, this was a track day tyre test. The Michelin tyre is the Cup 2, but that's not as fast as the Pirelli in the dry, hence using the Pirelli.

[@MahyarJavadi]

@@tyrereviews Cup 2 R's coming soon? :P

[@0079supersaiyan]

trofeo r vs mpsc2 vs ar1 vs r888r vs yoko A052 please. This will be the ultimate current track tyre shoot out. Would be amazing to see this.

[@tyrereviews]

working on it :)

[@0079supersaiyan]

@@tyrereviews thanks look forward to see it.

[@krichd1]

Don't forget the Accelera 651 Sport tire, I think this is the best bang for the buck 200tw tire right now in the USA.

[@tyrereviews]

That's a bold statement! I'll have to test

[@PLiWorx]

Dope Vid, As usual 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@jacebeleren429]

Holy shit! Subscribed! Looking forward to the next review.

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374]

I had the P zeros on my srt8 challenger and they didn't hook at all and it ate them up pretty quickly. Actually that's why I am on here looing at all of these comp vids so that can make the best decision the next time that I buy drag radials for my Mopar. LOL I have a difficulties connecting and run 295s on the back, so its shocking that the hellcats come with 275s stock and can imagine just how insane they are to drive. Although when they have got a good set of fat and stickys, there isn't a production car that can touch them besides the demon that is. But it was a special order car, so you cant really include it and that speaks volumes for the hemi mill considering that the beasts weigh in at over 4klbs lol

[@t.h.4632]

Brilliant video! Last time I drove Toyos they were a bit on the bad side on the wet. Pirelli seem to know what they´re doing. PS! Can´t wait for the next video! The showdown of MPS4S and MPS4. I have a feeling it´s gonna be close! Just ordered a new set of MPS4 last night btw.

[@tyrereviews]

Definitely going to be close!

[@t.h.4632]

Can´t wait! Fitting my new MPS4 tires in a few days. Should be a decent upgrade from the, in my opinion, the already awesome Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires that´s currently on my touring car. 2011 production tires. Bought them back in 2013. Can´t believe they´ve lasted for so long. And I drive a lot. I especially like their grip during rainy weather. They´re very, very good for wet driving. I´ve actully pushed them quite far on the wet as well as higher speeds on the dry. Now, the MPS4 tires should be good for going fast around bends in both wet and dry. I look forward to trying them out a great deal! Now, bring on the video of the showdown!! :)

[@JoeAchilles1]

Brilliant video mate, that Giti looks interesting, hope they do them in 18's...

[@tyrereviews]

I'm sure they will :)

[@Redsquirrel007]

What size do you need in 18”. I heard some more 17” and 18” planned for 2019 spring season

[@NoahBB]

I'd love to see this awesome test done again in 2020 or 2021. Sport Cup 2(R?) vs R888R vs Nankang AR-1?

[@tyrereviews]

Something is coming )

[@NoahBB]

@@tyrereviews fantastic!

[@joshuadoliveiro]

excellent reviews, my man!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you

[@samfazzari4208]

As with every other tire test i have seen, driver confidence almost always results in the best lap times. I'm sure given more time with the toyo tires you could push the time down below the Giti but its probably not with it.

[@tyrereviews]

We had plenty of time on all three patterns, the R888 just lacked ultimate feedback and balance.

[@jmac8845]

Smashing watch!!! Always on point with your delivery of pieces and conclusions!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you so much!

[@andrekleyn727]

These tires are all "semi-slick" type which will be less suitable in wet conditions. Personally I'm more off a touring type of driver with touring tyres to experience the best of both worlds. Never had the opportunity to try Pirelli tyres though.

[@jfgerard6862]

Intersting comparison, I would not rely on a Giti tire to fit my car before but after looking to the video, I could envisage it. Need to look to other performances like "wear" to make the good choice. Impressive to see how budget tire can sometimes get close to premium brands...

[@tyrereviews]

I'd like to test it more to be sure, but it looks like an interesting choice.

[@Richard-jo2lr]

I love almost all the wheels what wheels are they ? You recon they will look alright on a blue m235i ?

[@typeszero222]

excellent vid, I would like to see Yoko AD08R vs Dunlop Direzza Z111 vs Michelin Pilot Cup Sport 2, basically 180 to 200 treadwear comparison so a track day hero tire for the road

[@tyrereviews]

Working on it for next year :)

[@typeszero222]

awesome a lot of track day racers around the world will watch that, most time attack classes run maximum 180 treadwear rules for street class so is applicable to lots of track guys

[@krichd1]

The new ADVAN A052 would be more interesting than the old AD08R.

[@typeszero222]

good point they weren't on the list of available tires here when I posted but look like a good option

[@justicewarrior9187]

Toyo for life!

[@72FrostyOne]

Do you recommend the Giti Sport when they hit the shelves as a permanent trofeo replacement on a 5th generation Z28 even though manufacturer recommends the trofeo? I’m looking for a tire that doesn’t dry rot as quick as the trofeo does in the Utah desert.

[@tyrereviews]

I'd need to do more dry testing for that. Can you define dry rot?

[@72FrostyOne]

Yes sir, the dry desert heat pulls the moisture from the tires to the point the start cracking and splitting, especially in the side walls. My trofeo’s lasted less than one year because of the dryness or lack of humidity in the air.

[@tyrereviews]

@@72FrostyOne Ah I see. The problem with track tyres is they have quite a lot of natural rubber, which dry heat pulls the oils out of. I'm not sure what tyre woudl work best to avoid this, maybe the Cup 2's as they've a more balanced compound.

[@sid12345678910]

Would love to see Cup 2 vs Trofeo and Giti vs 4s. Keep up the amazing videos!

[@tyrereviews]

I have Cup 2 vs 4s coming very soon!

[@sonatine3266]

I just know that Continental tires are some of the best for racing / high-performance stuff.

[@15october91]

I have an M135i, what would you recommend I use (for road use, all year round)? Currently I have MPSS.

[@tyrereviews]

I really like the PSS. If you want a little more wet performance it's the PS4S or the Conti SportContact 6 :)

[@15october91]

Tyre Reviews I have 18 inch wheels so I can’t get the PS4S but I’ll look into the Conti SportContact 6. Thank you!

[@KXP70]

15october91 I don't think they do the CSC6 in sizes under 19" either. PS4 will be a great tyre but dynamically it will feel lackluster compared to the PSS you have currently.

[@15october91]

Kurt Phillips thanks! So I’ll stick with these tyres then.

[@gregpapagno5683]

What ya think about proxes sport for m3 2015

[@tyrereviews]

See the M2 video, the Toyo is included

[@waxon9046]

Great review. Subscribed!

[@tyrereviews]

Thank you :))

[@BangLazar]

Thank you for a great video, as always. It would be good to mention what alignment the tyres were tested with. Assuming it was stock on the BMW, with zero camber in the front, no surprise you couldn’t get confidence with R888s. Due to tyre construction R888 likes significant negative camber, at least -2.5 or more. And that’s what most serious track guys would run anyways. Trofeo Rs are frequently fitted on super cars, which tend to have have zero camber due to their intended regular road use. With a serious track set-up of a more common track car, most people (think old Bimmer owners) would probably be able to get much closer results between R888 and the Pirellis, at half the cost. Would be really interesting if you make a test on a track-ready car with front camber alignment.

[@tyrereviews]

It's a good point, but sadly in the scope of this sort of test customising the cars setup for each tyre is impossible, so we usually run stock for fairness, as that's how a lot of people will run. I plan to make another video where we go into setup adjustment etc, it will be complicated to make though so won't be for a while

[@BangLazar]

Tyre Reviews Fair enough! Looking forward to that video. Sadly there are not many decent and affordable alternatives to R888/R out there 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@tyrereviews]

Not a fan of the Nankang AR1 or Kumho V70A

[@doolian1t118]

Thankyou, more please and can you include target hot pressures for optimal performance?

[@tyrereviews]

We ran everything at 30/32 to be fair. I want to make a tyre pressure tuning video in the future.

[@doolian1t118]

Thanks for reply. Was 30/32 starting pressure or hot adjusted to..?

[@paulcotton5096]

What’s your take on the extreme contact 6 by continental? I’ll look at all your vids to see if you have a review on them.

[@tyrereviews]

We don't have that tyre in europe sadly, sorry

[@lorrimiller7010]

I run the continental extreme on my Subaru wrx . I live in the north of Boston area(NH). They are fantastic in the rain and snow and very good for dry handling. My wrx came brand new with summer performance Dunlop’s. In the dry there isn’t enough difference to tell in performance between the two.

[@mgbv8man2]

have you any experience of Dunlop dzo3g? T race a humble MGB (220hp/980 kg)band have used these for several years but want to know if there is something newer to try (tiny 205/50 15) some competitors use yoko a050 & a052 but is there a hidden jem anywhere?

[@tyrereviews]

I've not sadly, sorry

[@ebigford34]

did you get to measure the actual section widths? Some tires for a given size measure much wider than others. Also, treadwear ratings? I guess I can google that but it would give a little insight as to life. Have you driven any of the good 200tw tires to compare to the gtr3?

[@tyrereviews]

They all have to fit inside a range so there won't be huge variances. The Giti is 220 treadwear, I didn't note the other two, sorry.

[@ebigford34]

no worries.. I looked, the Trofeo R is 60 and the R888 is 100, drastically different than a 220 tire. The fact that it did well against the R888 is great. Have you tried the Direzza ZII star spec, the Bridgestone Potenza RE-71 or any of the yokohama advan tires?

[@tyrereviews]

Not yet, though I plan to do a bigger track day tyre test next year :)

[@Cascdy]

looking forward to the next video!

[@tyrereviews]

Me too :)

[@TheRobphobos]

Can't wait for the next vid ! (4 vs 4S etc) Also interested to see this GTR3 against those too. Fingers crossed for the Giti in my sizes :D

[@tyrereviews]

I'm so excited to finally film the Michelin video! I hope I can do it justice.

[@slomant]

Thank you for these super informative reviews! Just one question poped up in my mind, why didn't you use the new version of toyo - r888r?

[@tyrereviews]

It sadly wasn't available in the sizes we needed at time of purchasing tyres :( I'll do something with the R888 R in the future :)

[@nathanthomas4239]

What are the wheels you were using? I've been looking for a good y-spoke wheel and really like the one you are using.

[@tyrereviews]

Zito ZF01

[@colinwatt00]

Excellent video. Excellent review. Excellent content. Subscribed.

[@tyrereviews]

Glad you enjoyed it, thank you :)

[@titirallye]

Thanks for you vids, that's not easy to find that kind of serious tyre test in the internet ! Could you also review tyres in smaller dimensions ? I have to fit 17'' trackdays tyre on my GT86, there's not much choices available and I really don't know what to choose... I want to keep my car fun without too much grip (bye bye PSCup2), but I don't want either a tyre that will overheat after 5 laps (Bye bye PS4, Eagle F1...). Any thoughts ??? Yokohama AD08R maybe ?

[@tyrereviews]

AD08 is a good shout, R888R I need to test, Kumho V70A is great. I plan on doing more tests this year :)

[@petereacmen716]

Did you dial in pressures for each tire for a fair comparison?

[@tyrereviews]

Yes of course :) Each tyre went through the same process, 4 hard warm up laps, into the pits to reset the pressures then back out for the runs.

[@petereacmen716]

Tyre Reviews excellent! Some tires like to run at different hot pressures. Using tire temp (inboard outboard and center) or chalk on the sidewall will allow you to dial in the correct pressure for each tire make/model.

[@tyrereviews]

I plan to do a tyre pressure tuning video at some point in the future, it's proving quite difficult to plan as if you were to do it properly you would need a new set of tyres for every tyre pressure change!

[@MihaiCostiug]

What about the Yokohama Advan? I'm quite please about my AD08R's on a 2.5 Focus ST.

[@dannyautoparts30]

Hi there, What's the tyres like for the Pirelli dragon sport, are they performance tyres? And the treadwear rating 400, does that mean it's less grip. Thanks

[@tyrereviews]

We don't get them in the UK

[@dannyautoparts30]

@@tyrereviews Thanks, for the treadwear rating 400, does that mean it's less grip. or it just mean last longer doesn't no grips? Thanks

[@sonnynguyen3312]

Please do a comparison between Yokohama Advan AD050, Michelin Cup 2 and Pirelli Trofeo R. Thanks

[@tyrereviews]

Working on it :)

[@timdavid7454]

Are these rims standard on M2 or are they aftermarket? I love the design

[@tyrereviews]

Zito ZF01

[@bargym2312]

I think the missing piece of this video is the affect that alignment will have one these tires. When you get into higher performance tires especially track day tires, a tire like the toyo needs a much more aggressive alignment than that M2 has to really take advantage of the tire. Not that i'm a fan of the toyo, I just think it's worth mentioning. I would like to a see a test on the Nitto nt01, which uses a similar compound to the r888 with a different tread pattern. I would also like to see something like a hoosier r6 vs the pirelli and also the latest sport cup's vs the pirelli and possibly the nt01

[@tyrereviews]

I agree cambers would have helped all three tyres, but it was a little outside of the scope of this video. I will be doing a bigger track day tyre test, but sadly we don't get the Nitto or Hoosier brand in the UK :/

[@sebastianschmitt4772]

Would like to see the Giti Sport GTR3 vs PS4s, Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport, Continental sportcontact 6!

[@tyrereviews]

Make sure you subscribe then ;)

[@Pioqueug000]

Just a question for ya since its your newest video. Would you say ultra high performance all seasons like the Continental DWS 06 can still offer an good experience compared to summer touring tires? If not, how far below are they?

[@tyrereviews]

Sadly we don't get the sports all season tyres like the DWS in Europe so I've never driven on one! :(

[@Pioqueug000]

Thanks for the prompt response! Crazy that its not available over there. Is there anything similar to that?

[@tyrereviews]

UHP all season just doesn't exist here. Closest we have is CrossClimate! Check out the excellent reviews on tirerack.com, they should help.

[@AntonioRodriguez-ll9wt]

That's why I use the Proxes T1 sport instead the triple 8's... For me better,wet/dry and daily use...

[@tyrereviews]

The T1 has gotten so soft on the sidewall though, no really up to track work anymore

[@andersjensen1499]

Never heard about the GTR3 tire but I would be interesting to see them against something like the PS4S

[@tyrereviews]

As soon as there's more availability I will try my best to do this!

[@carllynch8798]

One of my favourite tracks !

[@tyrereviews]

Mine too!!

[@shinysideup2134]

What tire pressure did you have in the Toyo r888?

[@tyrereviews]

We ran all 3 sets at the same 30/32

[@shinysideup2134]

Tyre Reviews Is that cold or hot?

[@JaZoN_XD]

I'm assuming cold... it's almost impossible to adjust tire pressures hot...

[@tyrereviews]

Hot pressures, we went out for 3 laps and got heat into the tyres then came in and reset the pressures to the target.

[@shinysideup2134]

That seems low. Toyo recommend about 32-33 in cold pressure for cars over 1400kg and 37-40 psi when they are hot. Then to behave well R888 want at least 2-4 degrees camber. Thats my experience.

[@larsweinand4035]

What build year is the M2? Mine got a SW update in January and I did not have the limb mode issue with mine on track even with an almost empty tank. It would be awesome if you'd also talk about tire pressures you used during the day on the tires. I also noted that you did not seem to have used the pressure sensors on the wheels, which is a helpful thing to have at a trackday, since you're able to see the tire pressures and temperatures of the (air inside the) tires in the idrive menu. Looking forward to your next video :)

[@tyrereviews]

As we had three sets of wheels we couldn't mount the pressure sensors, but we were getting all the tyres up to temperature then adjusting the pressures to an even level for all tyres (30/32). Not sure on the build date of the M2, it was a rental. From my research online it's an issue with the passive fuel pump pumping from the left to right of the tank and only happens on very fast, long right handers. Which cadwell park has!

[@larsweinand4035]

Thanks for the feedback! That makes total sense. I drove mine on a small track, without fast right corners so no wonder I did not run into it. Still really loved to read the tire pressure in real time in the idrive, especially without me having to much track experience yet

[@gaspererjavec7108]

Not bad at all, how did they handle the heat, looking for a street tyre that i can track occasionally. Needs to be good in the wet

[@tyrereviews]

They did surprisingly well in the heat, though I'd reserve judgement until I've tested them against the PS4S properly.

[@Gustavngr]

Please include other Giti tyres(Giticomfort 228v1, F22 Giticontrol 288) in your reviews more.