osu!mapping: old editors

talking about my experiences with creating maps in older versions of the editor
AX panel: • osu! panel @AX 2017 (S...
2007 osu! client: osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/130144
reddit thread about later clients: / d0zabeh
patreon: / pishifat
twitter: / pishifat
maps referenced:
Kenji Ninuma - DISCO PRINCE by peppy: osu.ppy.sh/s/1
2007 map // YUKI - Sayonara Bystander: osu.ppy.sh/s/635772
2008 map // NoisyCell - Innocence: osu.ppy.sh/s/638354
2010 map // Suzuki Konomi - Redo: osu.ppy.sh/s/638698
2011 map // TRUE - Soundscape: osu.ppy.sh/s/639319

[@nurielkaunaini2584]

6:11 "i can make 2 different slider shape, a straight line, and a garbage" Well said.

[@MandrakeGuy]

and a garbage

[@ezekielleveriza4071]

I am that garbage.

[@LimeGreenTeknii]

As someone who used the older editors when they were contemporary, this video was pretty funny/quaint/humbling to me. "There were only whistle and finish sounds." I remember when clap sounds came out, I was like, "Woah, a THIRD option?!" Up until that point, I had noticed a few mappers would replace either the whistle sound or the finish sound occasionally with a custom clap sound, so I was really excited to see what mappers could do with access to all three. "You couldn't click on slider heads; they had the same sound at the beginning and end!" Clicking on slider heads blew my mind when they came out! "Finally, rotation!" This is why making perfect triangles with the rotation editor wasn't obvious to me; that option wasn't even always available.

[@user-vs6co7ok8f]

Pishifat is like the vsauce of osu

[@hamizannaruto]

and spare

[@saintmeao4243]

The Vsauce of mapping*

[@RynnavinxMusic]

6:50 thanks mr monstrata

[@faijoure1804]

3:57 pishithin

[@KazunaiOwO]

omg xDDD

[@grimrapper5202]

Double roast

[@KazunaiOwO]

Black&White Drawing he already showed his face

[@BlackZero796]

"You could make straight lines, or garbage."

[@saintfrosty6165]

BlackZero796 my drawing tallent in a nutshell

[@ezekielleveriza4071]

6:13

[@kintama2326]

now I respect even more Doomsday for his bad apple diff from 2009 & Lesjuh

[@kirbob]

catmull curves should return but with a blue anchor point

[@GuyFromSomeWorld]

By clicking 666 times instead of 2 for the linear curve

[@anothney]

GuyFromSomeWorld I see what you did there

[@anothney]

👿

[@bananya6020]

GuyFromSomeWorld by clicking 0 timesp

[@pentagraph7624]

Triple click, catmull sliders are useful for round 360 degree turns, good idea

[@Dannya]

What if todays editors are actually very limited and 10 years in the future people try to make their versions of modern maps with today's editor, with their maps being the same step in the direction of the 2007 editor vs 2017 editor

[@Will-ox4vj]

Catmull is still in the editor, to get catmull points just make a red anchor and right-click it. For some reason instead of going back to normal it becomes Catmull, or at least that was the case when I last messed with it.

[@fanzhen0019]

nostalgia 2008 i can finally know how i did keep these odd habits from that old era till nowadays...

[@nutik8597]

I think I might actually use that 2010 editor. I like the slider styles and the green limitations, and it seems like it'd be good, especially for beginning.

[@JonasKondratas]

Thanks Peppy for supporting this video

[@geoffreyflores8931]

Metallica is planning on Remastering Master of Puppets releasing possibly late 2017 to early 2018, maybe a good chance to map with possibly better consistent timing. Regardless, excited for it. :)

[@planktonweed727]

Geoffrey Flores Wat, rly?

[@Jono997]

Geoffrey Flores Remaster of Puppets. Sorry, I had to.

[@SF3098]

"I hope a lot more people will go into mapping, cuz it is a lot of fun to do" - ppy 2017

[@dumteaa]

#BringBackCatmull

[@redpandaleader]

15:53 could someone help pishi? I feel bad for him xd

[@Jaymagus]

You can barely see my head during the osu panel parts with my Saitama beanie. Bottom right corner.

[@damenbuck7570]

*loves*

[@lucidmlem]

I'm really glad you can put cs below 2 by changing the .osu file it makes my aim look good

[@furball_vixie]

i like the wave shape slider too xD

[@SilverStar555]

WHAT!? YOU CAN USE THE SCROLL WHEEL!??? IVE BEEN USING THE DAMN ARROW KEYS THIS WHOLE TIME

[@Daduch]

Pishifat is thicc

[@Ixiot_]

Pishithicc

[@pixelbyte4886]

owo

[@cieldaube]

Zadren1 thiccifat

[@arrdune]

16:16 I tried xD

[@MisikajaMasipelaa]

Could you make a "new editor wishlist" video?

[@Oqwert]

I'm pretty sure pishi is helping peppster make the new editor or at least secretly testing it and giving feedback and stuff.

[@pishifat]

if only

[@cieldaube]

pishifat please do make a wishlist I beg of you as well

[@Shawdooow]

Well, since lazer is open source nothing will stop you from just writing a different one and using it to map, then switch to the un-modded client to connect to online :P. I am also sure if you look hard enough you find someone to help if you don't know how to mod the editor. . .

[@MrPorcShop1]

mitä hylje

[@MandrakeGuy]

a new version for osu! is available!

[@bestrobloxplayer1956]

3:31 that what is so good

[@ZeldaMstr109]

i map in free time and sometimes force myself too, because i have a lot to do.... but this was really satisfying to watch. wow.

[@zimtheailen1919]

Hi Phishifat god I love your maps

[@mordimort]

Oh hey, an old editor vid! I currently have 2010, Early 2012 and Late 2012 editor

[@HotSkeleton]

2:35 Key word being *T H O T*

[@GranularShards]

So you're saying I should check out the 2010 editor. Got it.

[@jafeth12]

i love the way you say "but"

[@rudyramadhana4127]

2012 editor was my first

[@leppycolon3]

2:10 at this monent i checked description to see if it was an april fools joke or something like that

[@Flux3on]

I've hitsounded fairly well in the 2008 editor using red lines

[@Yogii0000]

6:35 Only straight sliders? Difficult to express music? You are weak my friend.

[@PPolendina]

Yoges Singha *changes in the music

[@goodname3838]

6:11 WHY AM I LAUGHING *WHY AM I LAUGHING*

[@a1batross_]

Slider curve type is still persist in the code and file format. :D

[@furball_vixie]

when we had the source code then yes.

[@meta04]

there's also the Open .osu in Notepad option ... not that replying to a one-year-old comment is worth my time but it's 04.30 ... not 16.30, but 04.30... (I would use colons but they link to parts of the video >.< youtube)

[@chitoge4321]

mhm cool :O

[@Nyakozame]

I wanna know what if 2019 mapper go back to 2007 then make 2019 style maps what will people from 2007 think

[@SiriusBYT]

4:08 why not just hold FN then press Z ? (should be W for Qwerty keyboards) that will replace WASD by Arrow buttons

[@Werhakon]

G R E E N L I N E S

[@skhtrm]

I was there at the panel, made me play the game again lol

[@Obliviander]

Catmull sliders can make nice modern curves if you do 3 points on them, if you want proof check my old maps - AndreasHD

[@nanodesu4864]

Can you make a video about marathon map ? Plz?

[@pixelbyte4886]

a marathon map is a map that is longer then 5 minutes thats basically it

[@saintfrosty6165]

Pixelbyte yes but a good one is hard to make.

[@idiotontheweb]

I have the client that only works with circles. (July 2007 dev build)

[@Ramelrammu]

Q: how do you adjust the grid? i mean its size.. ;-;

[@Spayyce]

ive mapped about 20 maps on that 2007 editor, its not that bad

[@Flaxify]

A basic hit sounding section aaaand... nice!

[@D0HERRITT]

Osu was at Anime expo this year? I had no idea! :O

[@pixelbyte4886]

4:10 omg im dead XDD

[@antonio-uz1uf]

When I press the down arrow key, it goes to the beginning of the song, ITS SO ANNOYING

[@ReazenOfficial]

no info about storyboards :/ feels bad

[@bananya6020]

old osu actually had more storyboard funtionality

[@ezekielleveriza4071]

@@bananya6020 wait what

[@bananya6020]

@@ezekielleveriza4071 basically old osu allowed you to do some cool stuff like performance-dependent storyboards. a good example is Queen - Don't Stop Me Now [Hard ROCK!] by m980 because if you used an old client and did poorly the storyboard would show a "stress/loss" animation and not a "win" animation. Another example is the osu! tutorial itself. In old clients, doing badly didn't cause the breaks to say "You have potential!", it instead said "You can do better! Retry the map to go again." This functionality was only accessible through .osb modification and writing code, of course, but it doesn't even exist when you play the game now.

[@gdslowingunicorn1806]

I can’t move the timing of when I want the circles on the timeline to pop up in the game.... can u please tell me how to fix?

[@bananya6020]

change the ar (approach rate).

[@gdslowingunicorn1806]

@@bananya6020 it was a glitch, it wasn't the approach rate I was talking about. It was the skin I was using for some reason. Thanks though.

[@fanalpricvs2592]

PISHIZORRRRRRRRR COMEBACK ZOMBIES

[@syruphi]

What mouse do you use.. It looks like my razer taipan

[@tamuwu]

7/27 8:13 2010 date modified

[@naxzed_it]

It isn't that tedious as you think to move the timeline. You canjust put your beat on for 1/8 start playing the song and it makes you move really fast!

[@ezescape]

I used the 2009 editor cuz I joined and started mapping in 2009, too bad I didn't save it.

[@pishifat]

you were my last hope :(

[@ezescape]

uwu

[@Nekomosh004]

player from 2010... i also missed 2009 ;w;

[@boo3427]

Cute

[@Rayanial]

osu! Mapping history reminds me of Geometry Dash level making history.

[@pacboy5434]

Hey just à question , do you play our maps ? I mean the maps of yours viewers . It should be satisfaying to see the progression of some of yours viewers .

[@sp3edah]

3:31 WHAT.

[@sguzaki4545]

the newest editor can range down to 0.10 slider velocity

[@danielszucs281]

Modding v2 video plox

[@NoreoNC]

its 2020 and still no osu lazer full release

[@sinom]

Sayonara bystander? March comes in like a lion anyone? Not enough songs of that have ranked maps.

[@Slammatoro]

Just cause I heard Ronnie James dio’s voice in here I love your music taste

[@mmelloe]

catmull is cool

[@cristi-ff7gv]

So uhhhhh nacht 100 when?

[@adamfarber2956]

I miss combo fire

[@HaristheBosniak]

**JAMES DIFFICULTY**

[@mrsergio5658]

osu!lazer editor soon(tm)

[@kidekii]

ok, so it won't let me map on this version lol

[@mariosmokingweed]

guys if you have an updating screen on your osu game, remove osume

[@gdash6925]

Hey. Make a map with 70% catmull red anchor sliders

[@bananya6020]

I actually would totally turn off beat snapping all the time...

[@bananya6020]

said no one ever

[@crazycsiw6404]

I have a 2009 client.

[@willyxd6679]

8:07 7/27 lmao funny number

[@azpyx735]

15:56 7/27/2017 WYSI

[@vgveson6409]

4:06 and 6:10 lol'd more than I should've xD

[@KazukiP]

Bézier should be pronounced "bae-zier" accent changes "e" to an "Ayy" sound

[@izikblu]

Hello there!

[@gdash6925]

what mouse do u have?

[@pishifat]

razer taipan

[@gdash6925]

is it good and/or cheap?

[@pishifat]

i don't have much comparison. only used this and some garbage $15 mice before

[@cristi-ff7gv]

GDash 69 it's decent

[@dash--]

hello there

[@tmg7866]

Nacht round 100 when

[@awesomeboxlord]

The slider curve types would be hell in 2007 you could only have one style throughout the entire map

[@rishes2064]

Anyone else watching for like the milionth time in 2020?

[@hifkil3763]

french word :^) PUTAIN

[@travusdv7679]

It's weird this video is displayed with a german title and description

[@Waterwolf221]

i like garbage sliders

[@GuyFromSomeWorld]

wait why does old osu require administrator privileges to run

[@GuyFromSomeWorld]

Also I found the 2009 client. It's in this forum thread, near the bottom: osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/526176 It doesn't have a virus, I checked it with Avast, and it doesn't seem fake either (except for the uninstall folder that is there when you have started the game up one time, that folder is very suspicious)

[@BryNu]

Nice french pronunciation ;)

[@ivylux7081]

WYSI

[@aako1997]

I like ur flower KZbin pic

[@lionsoda]

Did u buy a go pro just to record your desk? Kappa

[@bananya6020]

well i mean he crushed an iphone with his car a few videos ago

[@nicexdnicexd6761]

Stills without custom Slider Velocity without using the notepad xd

[@asmylia9880]

nice xd nice xd switch to taiko - done.

[@nicexdnicexd6761]

Living Flower It doesnt make any sense, its been 10 years and i have to change to a different game mode to use custom slider velocity ?

[@asmylia9880]

nice xd nice xd still better than re-open notepad

[@nicexdnicexd6761]

Living Flower I could be A LOT better

[@asmylia9880]

nice xd nice xd everything could be better at every time. /shrug

[@goldcrane7347]

You pressed the shift button without your pinky, you're a typing scrub. (I mean come on, I press the shift button using my pinky or my ring finger)