The Great Plant-Based Con By Jayne Buxton REVIEWED Part 2: Climate

[@PlantChompers]

I accepted an invite to speak at TEDx Boston in November about the effect of food on climate.

[@Eve1912]

Woohoo!

[@g00dbyemisterA]

Congrats Chris! Looking forward to seeing it and bothering all my friends by sending it to them :D

[@prairiegirlpaddler6319]

Fantastic! I'm looking forward to it.

[@harbingerbk1]

Amazing news, can't wait!!

[@JaxObsessed]

OOOH this is awesome, Chris!!!!!

[@letransformateur6477]

Doing a PhD in climate research, and I appreciate what you are doing mr Plant chompers!!! Putting light on misrepresenting science. Thanks

[@PlantChompers]

GREAT topic for a PhD! I just hope you don't get nightmares from what you see, like so many of us do. I had Paul Behrens proof this video before publishing and damn he knows his stuff.

[@cricketylife8742]

We are fortunate to have someone like you to weed out the misinformation and the misinformants ! Thank you !

[@ooo789456123]

Yes, so true

[@lianjohnston461]

The people who follow people like jayne, teizholz or Taubes don't care. But for people who are genuinely curious or on the fence it's great to have resources like this video to point to.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

The untold story of the 6th mass extinction: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥

[@nesanesa9547]

HEAR, HEAR....WOOOW JUST FOUND YOU..WHAT TOOK SO LONG??

[@Mapletime]

Another extremely well structured video! I really appreciate how you address criticism in a very productive manner. Keep up the good work!

[@eugenetswong]

I agree about him being productive. I feel justified in believing that the ball is in her court. Sometimes people are justified in responding like she did, but not today, I think.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

The untold story of the 6th mass extinction: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥

[@cdtpal3061]

I really appreciate how Mr MacAskill addresses these topics with the precision and effectiveness of an individual who is well read and rehearsed in the nutrition space. Perhaps these "500 page" bookwriters would benefit with an excerpt from him, as the pages may as well be blank without his insight.

[@BourbonISvegan]

One of the most memorable radio phone calls on Radio5 live in the UK was about fox hunting. “It’s been happening for hundreds of years” 🤷🏻 “Yes, but we’ve been educated since then!” has stuck with me for decades. Yes, education is everything. But the tidal wave of misinformation & monetised conspiracy peddler’s is swamping that education. You are part of the solution Sir. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@someguy2135]

Replacing animal agriculture with a plant based food system would solve so many problems and threats facing mankind! Why should each of us boycott meat dairy and eggs? 1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get several deadly chronic diseases) 2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases 3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen. 4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons of water every year! 5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution 6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation 7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses. Workers in meat packing facilities often endure terrible, dangerous working conditions. 8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity 9-Animal welfare, obviously 10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation. 11- Longer lifespan. 12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.) 13- A healthy plant based diet significantly reduces the chances of ED later in life, and even 1 meal can improve bedroom performance 14- A plant based diet could save money! You could reduce your food budget by one third! 15- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1.5 trillion in health care costs (Oxford Study) Links for some of these are at my channel under "About." If you doubt any of them, I would be glad to cite evidence from credible sources to back them up. KZbin only allows a certain number of links at my channel.

[@lizzzarduh]

@@someguy2135 this comment you wrote is amazing ! I’m going to save it somehow for my vegan comebacks arsenal :)

[@patrickvanmeter2922]

@@someguy2135 Don't confuse people with facts.

[@someguy2135]

@@lizzzarduh Thank you! Here is what I do. As I encounter things useful for debates, I send them to my email account. I have one thread of email replies that I keep in a folder of these, so I can copy and paste where appropriate. Glad to hear you plan to use that. Feel free to copy and paste where helpful. As you might guess from my screen name, I don't care about getting credit.

[@someguy2135]

@@lizzzarduh You will get people challenging each of the reasons, so try to have evidence from credible sources ready. For example, this one- The largest organization of nutrition professionals officially declared- "It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. *Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.* Low intake of saturated fat and high intakes of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, legumes, soy products, nuts, and seeds (all rich in fiber and phytochemicals) are characteristics of vegetarian and vegan diets that produce lower total and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol levels and better serum glucose control. These factors contribute to reduction of chronic disease. Vegans need reliable sources of vitamin B-12, such as fortified foods or supplements." -Full abstract from the position paper as found on PubMed from the National Institutes of Health

[@spencerprice1676]

Dr Greger for why plant based is good for health Earthling Ed for why plant based is good for animals Chris MacAskill for why plant based is good for the environment

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Spencer. I just accepted an invite to speak at TEDx Boston about this in November, so it's really important that I get this right.

[@GlennMarshallnz]

Abū al-ʿAlāʾ al-Maʿarrī (Syrian vegan philosopher died in 1057 aged 83) - for why plant based is good for spirituality

[@someguy2135]

@@GlennMarshallnz Thank you for bringing him to our attention! Some other intelligent, widely admired people who chose not to eat meat- Pythagoras, Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Voltaire, Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Nikolai Tesla, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Albert Schweitzer, George Bernard Shaw, Tolstoy, Thoreau, Saint Francis of Asisi, and many more. Some on this list switched late in life, but stayed on it to the end. Ben Franklin switched at age 16. "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." -Einstein (Of course today, he would be vegan. So would the others on this list.) The famous Professor of Physics Brian Greene is vegan. You may have seen him on PBS hosting science shows for the layman. Jane Goodall recently went from a long time vegetarian to vegan. Greta Thunberg is vegan. Jon (Daily Show) Stewart is not only vegan, he owns a farm animal sanctuary! Wikipedia has a more complete list.

[@someguy2135]

@Aaron Loos the vegan hunter Your case against veganism is admirably concise, but for some reason, I remain unconvinced. Can you refute any of these compelling reasons to boycott meat dairy and eggs? 1-Your own health (vegans are less likely to get several deadly chronic diseases) 2-Helping to end animal agriculture would reduce the chance of another pandemic & other zoonotic diseases 3-Helping to end animal ag would reduce the chance of the development of an antibiotic resistant pathogen. 4-Animal ag wastes a huge amount of fresh water. Each vegan saves 219,000 gallons of water every year! 5-Animal ag is a major cause of water pollution 6-Animal ag is a major cause of deforestation 7-Animal ag increases PTSD and spousal abuse in the people who work in slaughterhouses. Workers in meat packing facilities often endure terrible, dangerous working conditions. 8-Animal ag is a major cause of the loss of habitat and biodiversity 9-Animal welfare, obviously 10- It is the single most effective way for each of us to fight climate change and environmental degradation. 11- Longer lifespan. 12- Healthier weight (vegans were the only dietary group in the Adventist Studies that had an average BMI in the recommended range.) 13- A healthy plant based diet significantly reduces the chances of ED later in life, and even 1 meal can improve bedroom performance 14- A plant based diet could save money! You could reduce your food budget by one third! 15- A vegan world would save 8 million human lives a year, and $1.5 trillion in health care costs (Oxford Study) Links for some of these are at my channel under "About." If you doubt any of them, I would be glad to cite evidence from credible sources to back them up. KZbin only allows a certain number of links at my channel.

[@someguy2135]

@@PlantChompers I look forward to seeing that TEDx talk! I hope you put it on your channel to help us find it when it becomes available, or at least a link and announcement.

[@lizmednick3842]

Okay, that reply to your offer to correct anything you had got wrong settled any shred of doubt I had left about whether this book was written in bad faith. NGL, after the last episode it was only a shred. But that wasn't a reply, it was a dodge. When lawyers want to bury an unpleasant bit of evidence, they do it by replying to requests for evidence with a mountain of irrelevant material. That's what this book looks like. Thank you as always for taking apart an exercise in disingenuity and doing it with good science and good humor.

[@jeffreywp]

I just posted the following review on Amazon about this book: “This is a short review because I’m simply going to point you to someone who actually checked the author’s sources … visit KZbin and search for Plant Chompers and then look for his review on The Great Plant-Based Con. And, no, I’m not related or affiliated with that channel. I appreciate that vloggers dedication to checking sources and reporting on it using the complete quote(s) from the original sources, video snippets from both sides of the debate, and information (conveniently?) disregarded by the author of the book.”

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Jeffrey! She tweeted that I cherry picked and misrepresented her book and that tweet got a lot of likes. 🤷

[@lizzzarduh]

Brilliant for doing that!!!

[@Zenjohnny]

The amount of people who avoid soy because of misinformation is fascinating. It's a clear threat to the meat industry with how tasty and similar processed soy foods are to meat nowadays. I have tried a couple vegan chicken and it's literally the same experience.

[@SparklinYoga]

for the EU citizens please sign and share the petition to ask EU to stop using our taxes to fund animal farming (which is one of the leading causes of climate change) and use them instead for sustainable companies

[@justicericketts2912]

You are an amazing person, insanely thorough and I’m just in awe 🌱 ty for all you do

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

The untold story of the 6th mass extinction: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥

[@someguy2135]

Going vegan is the single most effective way for each of us to minimize our environmental footprint. "According to the most comprehensive analysis of farming’s impact on the planet, plant-based food is most effective at combatting climate change. Oxford University researcher Joseph Poore, who led the study, said adopting a vegan diet is “the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth.” “A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use.”. -Joseph Poore, Environmental Science Researcher, University of Oxford. Joseph Poore switched to a plant based diet after seeing the results of the study. Links at my channel under "About."

[@martinsalas4608]

Ahh yes! The Plant Chompers bell dings again. I'm ready for class.

[@anotherhomeschoolmom1367]

I am new to your channel. I have gone back and forth from vegan to carnivore many times. These past few years I have been more keto carnivore because I have been trying to lose weight. I fully embraced the whole meat is a super food and all you need to thrive, plants are poison mantra. Problem is, my health is not improving and I am not losing weight. I decided to reevaluate and that's how I found your channel. I greatly appreciate your dedication to actual science. You have definitely been swaying me to turn the other way and go vegan or vegetarian again. I look forward to more videos. Thanks for the hard work you put into representing science accurately.

[@singularity6761]

Why always going to the extremes? What about a healthy omnivore diet the human body has evolved for?

[@PlantChompers]

Thank you, Mandi. Losing weight is so hard... Honestly, comparing the success/failure rates of various diets clinically makes it look like it's hard on all of them. The biggest gain comes from not eating processed food. But the health outcomes are dramatically different.

[@Typhoonbladefist]

Dr. Greger wrote a great book that might help called “How Not to Diet” He goes into the science behind what works and why, citing numerous studies in the process. It’s not just what you eat but HOW you eat. That was an eye opener for me. I highly recommend reading it.

[@patrickryan1092]

I would suggest you also check out the channel “Nutrition Made Simple!” They are an amazing channel for nutrition science as well.

[@Taurui]

Insane quality of this and all your other videos, your channel is becoming my #1 source of scientific information on nutrition and environmental issues. Thank you!

[@davidhogg1216]

Having initiated & implementing 3 NBS/CCB carbon sequestration programmes in india planting over 40 mill trees and initiating Regen Ag practices under VERRA I appreciated you addressing head on the animal issue especially pasture fed beef. (Let’s face it, it will cater to a mere fraction of the planet’s pop. so really a red herring) Very brave of you to tackle the matter head on and with horns too!! Respect. What is often ignored in the debate is the WATER hoofprint of beef. 15000 lts per kg. Here in India one tackles the issue of what 99% of people need to eat sustainably, profitably and that supports individual and eco-social well-being. The science is clear - thank you for putting it out there lucidly & buoyed by a wonderful sense of humour.

[@austincrain4919]

I love the new commercial about sustainable bacon that keeps coming up on my KZbin 😂 I compost & my dirt grows plants amazingly. Never used any cows.

[@DoctorEyeHealth]

Just want to say your videos are amazing and I respect how well read you are. Please keep up the great work!

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

agree Doc ! I follow you from 2 of my accounts, this and Danny Spitzer

[@Typhoonbladefist]

Well done as usual. Looking forward to part 3. Thanks for your hard work.

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

The untold story of the 6th mass extinction: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥

[@DoctorHerbivore]

Growing plants to feed to animals to then feed to people is always going to use more resources and cause more waste than growing plants to feed directly to people.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Plants are toxic to humans.

[@neuuser7071]

Humans don’t eat plants though, they only eat the fruit of plants.

[@jeannamcgregor9967]

OK, that was hilarious. I get to the end of Chris' very thoughtful vlog weighing the impact of beef production on the climate and on comes an ad for Omaha Steaks. Thank you KZbin.

[@travisporco]

It's remarkable how cavalier these people are about the facts. It's all fun and games until your doctor says "I'm afraid it's malignant."

[@adamswift1747]

You should have around 10-times the subscribers for this channel. Your delivery is superb. Respect is due, it falls like rain. 👍

[@VeganLinked]

It is mind blowing how thorough and awesome you are. A Warrior for the truth

[@CatalinPascaru]

Human progress comes a lot from trial and error and unfortunately, this happens with legislation as well. Legislation can't stop these industries because a sufficiently big error hasn't happened yet, and lobbying is keeping these entities as confused as the general public is. So, no matter which industry we're talking about, it's incredible how a few humans (that already have enough money to buy their island and retire) prioritize killing the planet and future generations (their own kids as well), all for the sake of profit... Nature has been kind to us until now, but much like AI, this is one "trial and error" iteration we cannot afford to screw up. Good luck on the TED talk and hope you can add another dent in this madness.

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Catalin! You might like this: Meet the People Getting Paid to Kill Our Planet | NYT Opinion kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYDGfayvi96VbNE

[@zodd67]

15:41 😂 I wasn't expecting the "but protein tho" argument to be used as a justification for this "investment"

[@PlantChompers]

I fell off the couch when I read that...

[@eugenetswong]

Plant Chompers, thank you so much for this! FEEDBACK 1) I appreciate the charts for showing GWP*. It's interesting to see the changes. 2) I appreciate seeing the diagrams/charts for the people that you trust. It helps me to memorize what is happening and the human relationships. I think that you have earned a lot of trust from me. Well done!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Eugene! That means a lot coming from you because I know you would tell me if I got things wrong. 👏 (And I would want to know.)

[@eugenetswong]

@@PlantChompers You're welcome. I think that you did such a good job on looking at as many bits of data that you could get your hands on, that I would trust you other politically charged issues like climate change.

[@Slizz]

It is purely illogical how she doesnt Look at the whole Picture.. at the beginning she says: Factory Farming is horrible and shouldnt exist.. (For her the coclusion must be more free range because she doesnt advocate for reducing meat) Yet in the Environmental Section she says the massiv Land use is ok.. even tho it only produces 18% of the calories.. without acknowledging that the free range model is Impossible and would make it even worse when even reducing factory farming

[@apriljohnson6191]

Got a question on the 37% of protein / 40% of protein figures mentioned by the scientists - does that mean 40% of what we need or 40% of what we typically eat? We know that Americans at least eat ***WAY*** more protein than we need. If their figure represents the need and not the current demand, that would weigh more in her favor than just meeting demand. After all, just because there’s a demand, doesn’t mean we should automatically meet it (e.g., illicit drugs & cigarettes are good examples).

[@PlantChompers]

Exactly, April. It's what we eat, not what's healthy. We eat that much simply because we love beef and it has that much. The excess harms, not helps us.

[@Ded-Ede]

In times like these we need to plant more shade trees to parking lots, convert our wasteful lawns and backyards to permaculture food forest gardens landscapes with perennial drought and heat tolerant plants to provide shade and food year long for our family, friends and neighbors. It’s healthy and better for us mentality/physically and the environment. You will get your vitamins C from the food you grown and vitamin D from the sun. :)

[@johnmeyers8542]

Another excellent video. I barely comment on KZbin at all, but your videos are really excellent. If anything I can't believe your channel is still so small. When you get big, and I'm sure you will, keep on telling it like it is.

[@JaxObsessed]

Sic em, Chris..... I'm happy you are taking on the environmental costs of big meat to the planet.

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Jax!!

[@elbob64]

Hey Mr. Chompers your videos are absolutely amazing. The seed oil videos were invaluable in helping clear up the confusion surrounding them. Would you consider making a video about fasting? We always talk about eating, but never NOT eating. I have fibromyalgia and was considering undertaking a medically assisted fast to see if it may help under the assumption that my immune system may play a role. Going whole food plant based is the only thing that has helped slightly

[@rabbitcreative]

13:06 Rude? So is not being vegan.

[@samanthab5006]

I would love to see someone like that author actually come on for a conversation. As always excellent delivery and really interesting content.

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Samantha! She tweeted at me this morning that she would never engage with someone who cherry picks and misrepresents her book like me. 🤷

[@spiral-m]

@@PlantChompers She knows she wouldn't have a leg to stand on. That is the sad part: I get a strong impression she is aware that she is dishonest. I will share your channel with interested parties

[@PlantChompers]

@@spiral-m A few days ago she said she would never respond to me because I cherry picked and misrepresented her book. Anyway, she responded to me that I should remove the tweet I used to attack her from the video because she was responding to someone else, not me. I told that in the next episode I would clarify that she intended it for someone else.

[@CristinaAcosta]

You are so good at clarifying the effect each us makes on our personal health and planetary health. I’m one week into my 12 week trial of veganism due to you and Dr. Grieger’s work. Thanks!!!

[@PlantChompers]

Awesome Cristina! Keep in touch and let us know how it goes. 👏

[@thegratefulsteve]

Did the University of Oxford not conclude that the single biggest way to reduce one's carbon footprint is to adopt a plantbased diet?

[@PlantChompers]

Jonathan Poore at Oxford did conclude that, yes.

[@johnplayeren]

I'm not a vegetarian, and have no immediate plans of becoming one. I do however follow this channel for their rigorous (and arguably unmatched) approach to disseminating food science from food fiction. Since following this channel, I definitely have cut down my meat consumption, because I'm no longer afraid of the supposed nutritional consequences of doing so (losing muscle, bone density, mental clarity etc etc). Thank you Mr. Chomper - your work is also appreciated by us in the meat aisles.

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks John!

[@XX-qi5eu]

I once went into a slaughterhouse to repair phone equipment. The stench and blood shocked and nauseated me. I thought if only every high school kid could spend time with farm animals and then walk through a slaughthouse they'd stop eating meat. How many people would eat meat if they had to kill and process it themselves? Not many. Few if any of those high school kids could run a chainsaw down a cows stomach and handle watching the guts flooding out at their feet.

[@jess7722]

I'm loving this series, thank you for going through it!

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

The untold story of the 6th mass extinction: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥

[@AH-cy4md]

I just discovered this dude and I love the way he presents everything, so informative and interesting! I’m in the middle of reading T. Colin Campbell’s book “The Future of Nutrition “, and so far I am blown away! Please do a review of this book!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks! Yes, T. Colin Campbell is one of the greats, a hero of mine. If I could summarize his philosophy, it's that human outcome data is the #1 thing, not the biochemistry of nutrients, the #2 thing is to eat whole foods, and the #3 is plants. 💪

[@GornubiusFlux]

Beard's looking sharp Chris!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks! When I walk on stage at TEDx Boston, I will have shaved it on half my face to symbolize how we have deforested almost half the earth.

[@rachelgoodkind6545]

My God, thank you for enlightening me. I have been "conned" for over 25 years as a whole food ethical vegan. I actually believe that whole plant foods are healthy, and that it is selfish and cruel to slaughter gentle animals for me to eat. .It is so strange that those who believe in dissing plant foods, and supporting eating cadavers, dairy, and high fat, get so many more viewers and readers. Conned indeed.

[@renatac210]

Awesome video as always! Also, love the t-shirt hahaha! It shows how dedicated you are to making these videos not only educational but entertaining too

[@jys365]

Thanks for this. I feel inspired watching your videos. I am trying to kickstart my own activism by making music. Watching your videos reinforce to me why I need to work hard to reach out to more people about the state of things in the world like climate change.

[@80slimshadys]

Nice name lol

[@Deb_BG]

Vegan for ALL life!

[@1PaulG1]

Love your work and thoroughly enjoy every video…. 10/10

[@toppinzr3743]

This video leaves out some things: - the contribution of food production & transport to human methane emissions, and how much that would be reduced if people ate plant-based. - the contribution of food production & transport to global warming, and how much that would be reduced if people ate plant-based. It seems likely to be sizable, but how much?

[@ade1963]

As always, thanks for this well-researched, informative information

[@VeganSemihCyprus33]

The untold story of the 6th mass extinction: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 🔥

[@forestappalachia6047]

As always, thanks for the reading assignment. Just put a hold on What Your Food Ate from my digital library.

[@PlantChompers]

Hahaha, I loved it. David and Anne are doing great work with their books and talks. 💪

[@legobuilders6133]

The doubters that are still saying there is no way animal agriculture contributes to climate change forget they also have no place to hide or to go when the climate is out of control. They will be affected too. And money will not save them or their children.

[@PlantChompers]

I honestly don’t know why some lobbyists and company execs keep working against climate change when they have to know…. I don’t know if they’re thinking, we’ll this won’t affect me in my area, or maybe they feel they can live out a good life before the worst effects manifest?

[@spiral-m]

Love it. what a manipulative, dishonest person Jayne Buxton is. She should be ashamed of herself.

[@anotherhomeschoolmom1367]

Could you do a video addressing the claims that we shouldn't eat certain foods because of the high oxalates? Sally K Norton and Georgia Eades have a lot to say about this topic and say nobody should ever eat spinach, potatoes, nuts, oats, etc.

[@PlantChompers]

I've had several requests for that! Georgis Eades has written some crazy stuff. 🤷

[@Fearzero]

Toiling in the weeds is the only way cognitively dissonant people can justify their bad behavior. Oh but this study (of 1 person) says soy milk causes gynecomastia. Intellectual twister.

[@scienceislove2014]

But your ideas or rather facts are probably not going to get viral unlike others who post controversial things and get viral instantly... Not just the quality...but the content material you put out is of great value to the world ...but alas.. you're so underated... You're criminally underated

[@0xszander0]

Lol that statement by Jayne saying we basically shouldn't address agriculture at all. How does someone like that even get any credibility whatsoever. It's simply corruption..

[@graememcelligott8874]

Very informative, thank you. In particular I appreciated the simple primer on CO2 and CH4 residence times and the meaning of GWP*. I haven't really been able to get my head around that before. Re the White Oaks/regen farming thing, there might not be enough land to do that at the scale at which we currently farm animals, but presumably if we down-scaled to a sustainable level and raised ruminants in that way, wouldn't the result be both a reduction in GHG emissions and benefits to the land? You did explain that this system does work on degraded lands, even if once rehabilitated the benefits cease to accrue beyond a stable level. In talking to farmers, the question of growing food sustainably and using ruminants to rehabilitate landscapes and to improve soils and water retention seem like solid benefits.

[@ecsourdough4047]

Ancel Keys was actually 90 in that interview at Minnelea. Want to make sure you're not giving the other side any more ammo than they need!

[@PlantChompers]

Thank you for the clarification.

[@tomgoff7887]

I can't help thinking about Richard Dawkins' remark about people who deny the fact of evolution: they must be either ignorant, stupid or crazy. Of course, that's an oversimplification because we should remember that some people say things they don't believe because it makes them lots of money.

[@PlantChompers]

Yeah, following the money is pretty shocking... 💰 The title of the New York Times video about this is Meet the People Getting Paid to Kill Our Planet. 😢

[@ln3812]

I really dislike Dr. Mitloehner, I would even go as far as calling him a hypocrite. I am of this opinion because of an interview he gave on the channel „What I‘ve learned“ (video title: „Eating less meat wont save the planet“). The video got over 1 million views and its clearly intentional misinformation. In the interview he states that removing all animals from US agriculture would reduce US ghg emissions by just 2.6%. He cites a study finding this but the assumptions that were made were literally unrealistic. They simulated that all the crop production for animals would still continue (while it wouldn’t be needed). Several other unrealistic assumptions were made. But they used it as if it was a realistic simulation. While there are tons of studies showing the real emissions.. To me this is completely unscientific and misleading and should result im a ruined reputation.

[@PlantChompers]

I agree completely. That episode has over 2.3 million views now. Gah.

[@stevenfrew9301]

Thank you for another great video. I look forward to seeing you on Tedx.

[@jakobw135]

STEAL -not- steel! Damn KZbin for leaving out the EDIT function¡!!!!!!!!!!

[@elbowroom3663]

Missing from the discussion is the central matter of suffering of sentient creatures, i.e. cattle, chickens, fish. Ms. Buxton ignores this? Where is her moral compass?

[@elbowroom3663]

@Homie The only bona fide avenue to welfare reform argument is to stop consuming flesh-foods completely. Gary Francione is more eloquent than am I in making this argument. You can find him easily on youtube. There is no existence that in toto is devoid of injury to other life-forms, obviously plant-life when it comes to veganism. And, yes, there is an unintended loss of animal life with plant agriculture, but the inevitability of that in no substantive fashion undermines the argument for consuming a completely plant-based diet. Animal agriculture also subsumes plant agriculture for the production of animal feed, so the losses of life are simply multiplied.

[@elbowroom3663]

@Homie Well, we each can parse the meaning of our words how we each may prefer. Veganism and welfarism may have subtly different meanings to you and I or maybe massively different meanings. I perceive no need to get to fixated on that. In fact, you and I essentially may be on the same page. To the extent that plant agriculture can be devoid of the taking of sentient life depends upon the cultivator, of course. That is obvious. What also is at issue is the inadequately or at least incompletely answered question as to at which point among the array of living creatures does sentience arise. The other day I came across a very small ~1 1/4 inch, praying mantis. It turned its head and followed my face when I changed location. Do I know the mind of that creature? Am I in a position to conclude that its reaction was nothing more than a neural reflex? To be absolutely accurate the answer is that I don't know. And those who would quickly reply that the mantis isn't sentient display the sort of speciesism that has been the animal husbandry industry's stock in trade for as long as I can remember. So, don't underestimate my understanding of these matters. I have spent more time that you can imagine weighing theses issue. I'm 70 years old and have been practicing medicine for 40 years. I've seen some suffering.

[@jhunt5578]

Top notch content as always Chris 👌

[@mikhailromanenko794]

Dear Chris, here is one book in desperate need of your incisive attention: "Why we eat (too much) by Andrew Jenkinson. I've watched all of your content and this oeuvre appear to have slipped through your nets. The premises appear, to some extent, to align with that of Teicholz, Taubes and co., albeit much better integrated with other, what appears to be, evidence based content. Could you please verify the claims made by the author? Thank you for all of your hard work!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Mikhail! Oh boy, I hate doing the debunking videos... Deep breath. But I know they are important and my subscribers like them, and if I don't, who will? I just thought I'd take a little break after episode 3 of Jayne Buxton's book to restore my faith in humanity, and to review a book or two I love, then maybe I'll tackle this. 😁

[@mikhailromanenko794]

​@@PlantChompers Indeed, who will? There are precious few bright, conscientious and most importantly, humble, minds capable of what you are doing! Can't wait for the upcoming episodes! THANK YOU!

[@PlantChompers]

@@mikhailromanenko794 Thank you. Odd that it's not available on Kindle or audio. 🤷

[@catsnotkids]

Absolutely fascinating topic & fun presentation. My grandad was a cattle farmer but not on grand scales in US. So was brought up on meat & dairy. However, due to ill health I am now nearly 100% plant based. I am absorbing so many facts my brain feels like popping- thanks so much!

[@frenchiepowell]

Still a great video! Climate science is definitely my strength as a sustainable food producer, and your videos are top of the line!

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

That reply said it all... Good job mr. Chomper

[@JOCAmusic]

Is this 18% of our calories coming from animal products a global figure? The EAT-Lancet report says that globally we eat up to 8 times more animal meat than official guidelines and up to 90% less whole plants. So is most of our diet comprised of refined grains? And if the environmental problem is actually the fact that we feed those animals cheap grains, taking over the farmland and emissions, then we also need to cut back on monocultures. Considering that the plants we will replace the animal products with are less calorie dense and much less protein dense.

[@znojnyj]

I'm not gonna pick a good argument from my own book sounds like "because I didn't read it" 📖

[@jonfoster7663]

Loved it sir, and thank you so much for all of the work you put into these fabulous investigative videos! Plants for life, cheers! : - )

[@plants_and_wellness1574]

Omg, please make more videos 🙏

[@raissaferreira1101]

This video is essential! As a Brazilian I can attest that the deforestation is through the entire territory including natural regions and environments as the Cerrado, Atlantic Forest and the the Amazon. Also, it's important to emphasise that these disputes for land to agro business are responsible to the death of hundred natives and traditional populations. Anyone who cares about Human Rights should be against the practices of Brazilian agro business.

[@Indrave_2274]

Haha, so charismatic - love it. It's the cherry-on-top to debunking carnist BS.

[@alex_blue5802]

I feel like I can trust your content because you always list both the positives and negatives, like the downsides you mentioned for the soy industry.

[@PlantChompers]

Thank you. Yes, the downsides of the soy industry are pretty stark... 😬

[@eugenetswong]

I agree about listing the down sides.

[@tamcon72]

00:12 Ooooh, someone is defensive! Once again, it's about data/math and how many, MANY people who should be competent at assessing data/math aren't. Or pretend to not be. So many merchants of lies dunning so many people willing to cede judgment to them. Thanks for doing so much deep analysis of this, and thanks for posting!

[@jochn919]

Can you make a video about a youtube channel "Goatis" and because it's very intriguing when it comes to veganism vs carnivore. Watch his video for example "Guy Eats Only Meat for 30 Days and Realizes That Veganism Is Garbage". And in the video called "Mia's Life: Vegan Teenager Has a Dangerous Influence on the Youth" He says at 6:50 that sweet potatoes don't contain vitamin A because it's an animal vitamin and can be only found in meat, particularly in liver and that her skin would clear up only if she starts eating more liver.

[@eugenetswong]

Vegans living longer is proof that he misunderstands the significance of vitamin A. If I understand correctly, our bodies make vitamin A by "consuming" beta carotene.

[@asloan193]

I don’t understand why animal agro businesses are not starting to look into cultured meat as opposed to fighting against it. It is a cheaper alternative, and they wouldn’t have to keep as many people around to produce more meat. Yes that is heartless to the employees that would lose their jobs, but I am looking at this from the businesses point of view. They could sell off the excess land and reduce their work force. While at the same time making the same amount or even more meat. Or am I wrong here?

[@lorah3005]

👍👌👍 #BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!

[@PlaylistsTrance]

14:36 You made it sound less bad than it is, saying 0.1% but showing 0.01% ;) Enjoyed the video as always.

[@PlantChompers]

Yeah, sorry. 😞 I didn't catch that until I transcribed for the captions and then realized I had slipped a decimal point.

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

Excellent video, it's so important that you did this....thank you

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks! I don't really like making ones like this but I take your point that it's so important.

[@kimberlysauber5601]

Thank you Chris!!!! You have no idea how much I appreciate you!!!! I’ve changed my life and you were a HUGE part of that. I do research and rely on science to make health choices. You help me weed out (pun intended) the BS… I respect your immense dedication to facts!!!!! Thank you again and forever!!! ❤

[@welanduzfullo8496]

give me more, more! this shizzle is so good.

[@annettestephens5337]

I believe that the single best thing you can do to help the planet is to give up eating PROCESSED FOOD. The processing of foods, the packaging, disposing of the packaging, the transport of foods and health care costs of trying to heal all the humans that become metabolically disfunctional be ause of eating processed foods and oils.

[@tazot4064]

Meat is the most processed food on the planet You are eating recycled food.

[@karlwheatley1244]

" I believe that the single best thing you can do to help the planet is to give up eating PROCESSED FOOD." It's definitely worse for the planet to eat processed foods than whole foods, but the research is very clear that the most important distinction is how much animal food you eat, especially ruminant meat.

[@kyleking8265]

Your videos are so well-thought out and logical. Your conclusions that spur on questions or criticism in my mind are so frequently immediately addressed in the subsequent point or explanation that it’s a joy to watch. Thank you!!

[@PlantChompers]

Thanks Kyle! I had a lot of help in this episode from someone who has to remain anonymous. Also Paul Behrens, a respected climate scientist in the Netherlands, fact checked it.

[@smilebot484]

Chris your voice is desperately needed!

[@totcevreauesaintru]

wow. . i am really happy cross on your content Sir . i am vegan abaut an year . i am 40 years old and i have start chalistenics to ... i can do now 15 pull ups at the bar an 30 push ups . if all can understand that plant based diet is the best that can happend to you and the planet . i lost from 99 kg to 84 and stil counting ... gl to u all . stay healthy and do not bother with marketing , better thing is to run from it !!!

[@PlantChompers]

15 pull-ups! 👏 I struggle to get 10, but I’m olde.

[@BooshyBrows]

Keep up the good work! - I'd love to see a video (maybe a series?) of you having civil debates with people on the "other side".

[@fenysnake]

Since the global growth of cattle farms also cuts more trees for monoculture of animal feed there is less 0², right? (Not to mention habitat destruction). The whole discussion about gwp and * are so scientific you can understand how "me" the people can be confused by what appears to be real data when it's really a different scientist's spin. It only takes one industry funded scientist 😐

[@janedough6575]

No one grows crops for animals, they eat the residue left after it’s been processed for humans who can’t use it.

[@keefejassoy]

You're a perfect mix of Slim Shady, Bill Nye and Mr.Rogers.

[@PlantChompers]

Hahaha, I've heard the comparison with Bill Nye and I'm honored, but not Mr. Rogers (now I'm doubly honored), but never Slim Shady!

[@NessNayii]

Thank you! Very informative; you are a very valuable contributor to this debate, and I appreciate your input greatly Sir.

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

It's super stupid to even argue methane. It's just stupid, nothing more stupid than argue methane's global warming effect. Methane changes into CO2. Of course we need to eliminate both. Stop CO2, and stop methane. The cows, the animals play a role in the environment. The role is not to restore soil; it is fucking stupid to argue cows restore soils. Cows are to stimulate grass growth... by eating them, and poop and pee on them. Overgrazing will not do the trick of course. Also it is shitly stupid to even say one cow takes hundreds of thousands of gallons of water to raise. Cows will poop and pee, and those are in term used by grass, filtered by soil, back to the aquifer. Of course useless if it's in a giant cattle farm, all poop and pee in one place, then it's a giant shit problem... Why even want to say cows are not necessary? Of course cows are not necessary. The issue is not even here. Of course soils can be rebuilt without cows, but need bacteria. Cows are bacteria factories, like many other animals, like the ones above the ground and the ones below the ground. I truly don't understand why the hell... so many problems in all these scientific... statements. You scientists truly need some serious... reflections...

[@beepbeepnj2658]

What Tom Dayspring forgot to tell nutrition made simple. The Lp(a) levels were inversely correlated with the CIMT in this population, suggesting that subjects with a low Lp(a) level may have a predisposition to carotid atherosclerosis. 2012 article: CIMT in asymptomatic subjects with low Lipoprotein(a) levels.

[@MrTomr316]

Your content is 1st class. Thank you 🌱

[@nonwibb]

Why didn't KZbin tell me you uploaded? Great work and love the research 💖

[@thefixerer]

I was just about to make my comment when I heard "greedy thirsty cows" and thought oh, he's about to cover it. But THAT is what is going to end the cattle industry. Water. Everything is drying up. Just watched a story about the Mississippi because I guess hearing about the Colorado is getting old. And although I think that in CA, the almonds are going to get the boot before Harris Ranch, it's just a matter of time.

[@brucegruetzmacher5891]

I want to try Vegan. But being all meat and seafood for three years has cured me of so many issues that veggies just scare the shit out of me. I kind of vomit a little bit when ever I watch someone eat them. Do you think hypnosis could help?

[@momopooperdooper]

Love your videos. I really appreciate your breaking down research and whether hypotheses and research IS or Is NOT credible. Not specifically climate change focused but I can't recall whether any video has debunked Dr. BEN Bickman. His statement and m eat and saturated fat are a bit disturbing

[@PlantChompers]

Dr. Bikman is truly disturbing to me. He just coauthored a paper about how doctors don’t need to worry about high cholesterol in patients on a keto diet. Other doctors’ jaws dropped when they saw that.

[@peter5.056]

As a nutrition "scianse jernalist" skeptic, the very first thing that triggers my "waaaaaait a minute..." reflex is use of the keywords, "ancel keys seven countries study." I'm just letting the beef industry know. They can't use that line anymore - we all know the game being played there;)

[@forrestunderwood3174]

What does an organic vegetable farmer fertilize his crops with?