Plato To Pythagoras: How The Ancient Greeks Created Our World | The First World | Odyssey

[@reimaginingPlato]

What a gem. I really enjoy these slightly older documentaries, well done.

[@lisaisabella182]

With great pleasure read over and over again the fascinate period of ANCIENT GREEKS! The roots and wonder of the greatest thinkers effects of Creation/base of our World.

[@Pontiki1977]

Shaptai/Sabetai Unguru @ 6:10, died this last January(06/12/2024). May he rest in peace. Thank you for your work sir.

[@arissarkides1380]

Along the same pattern I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's video "the rise and fall of the Hellenic civilization", especially as far as the rationalistic development is concerned

[@JohnSmith-rw8uh]

Hasnt fallen nearly enough

[@jaredsmith112]

Excellent video. The Greeks were fascinating and advanced for their age

[@rivertonhigh-v4t]

Mostly the Classical thinkers, scientists, and philosophers like Socrates - who was tried and executed for "disrespecting the gods, democracy (ie corruption, cronyism, demagoguery, populism), and corrupting the youth".

[@drcunda1]

The secret to happiness is freedom… And the secret to freedom is courage. 🌼 Thucydides

[@factsoverfear9771]

Egyptians 💡

[@TheAnarchitek]

Point of order: Pythagoras was born 150 years BEFORE Plato! Perhaps you mean Solon (laws - 638BC), to Socrates (Philosophy - 470BC), via Pythagoras (Mathematics - 570BC), Aeschylus (Literature - 525BC), and Hippocrates, (Medicine - 460BC).

[@categories5066]

Pythagoras came before Plato. The title should be Pythagoras to Plato

[@rivertonhigh-v4t]

And Thales came before Pythagoras. Thales was the first Greek philosopher, who used rationalism and empiricism to try to explain natural phenomena - NOT God(s), religion, superstition and mythology . . . which is never taught in Woke, PC conventional schooling, or in old documentaries.

[@ELLAS1234]

PLATON was a PYTHAGORIAN philosopher

[@johnaugsburger6192]

Thanks

[@maplehugger1857]

guys... remember that this is a documentary from 1990. of course it's not going to be 100% up to date.

[@jormajokelainen9089]

These 30 years maybe have not greatly changed our knowledge and understanding of ancient Greece! I do not see this as a bad problem, the video is that good!

[@thinredline2795]

@@jormajokelainen9089 It's a joke

[@gotasification]

My favourite is the shadow of the red trousers of the dude that describes the balet..

[@Merc_0158E7]

in accordance with the theme, don't watch the video just listen.... The editors weren't as good as the message. It's distracting.

[@psychonaut689]

Does anyone have a reference for the assertion made in the video that Plato advocates the burning of heretics?

[@brandonleroux6059]

Judging by the sound I think this documentary was made inside a submarine.

[@bsaxton6400]

Dont forget about the Persians. They made the worlds first sewage system.

[@rivertonhigh-v4t]

That was the Harappans and Mohenjo Daro in the Indus Valley, though yes, they are partly or largely descendant of Neolithic farmers from what is now Iran.

[@DanH-u3f]

The Ancient Egyptians had advanced mathematics thousands of years before the Greeks. They used advanced math to construct the pyramids with great precision.

[@johnsturgeon9995]

Citations needed.

[@loveofinquiry8067]

And so on and so forth

[@drdread9896]

So before the “ancient Greeks” there was no math?!🤔🤣

[@j.s3300]

Thats right

[@drdread9896]

@@j.s3300 so people didn’t have any math before the “ancient Greeks??!

[@j.s3300]

@@drdread9896 absolutely...birthdays were crazy

[@Lucy-mf5gk]

Perhaps without great definition...

[@sbassett5572]

Maths.. Math isn't a word

[@theostapel]

China was long ago - advanced in the work - with mathematics and the like. There were ancient ties of - India with Egypt and therefore links with Greece - in these fields. If one researches - ancient India - knowledge spheres - one will be truly amazed and grateful - to those seers. The Zero (all important concept) - arises out of the - being of Bharat. It was gifted - as so many of India's ideas - freely ..... Fare thee well.

[@TupacMakaveli1996]

If these documentaries were aired in countries like one of mine, Pakistan, instead of cheesy domestic home politics, love and war, my nation would have been something else.

[@benquinneyiii7941]

Speak truth to Plato

[@ODGColornChrome]

Trigonometry has been found on some of the Babylonian tablets well before Greece. Just saying, you may want to redo this vid!

[@TalentedTenth]

Pythagoras spent 15 years in Egypt where he learned a thing or two about triangles.

[@asicdathens]

Trigonometry was discovered by Hipparcos much later than Plato during the Hellenistic age. He made the first trigonometric tables. Nobody used trig tables before him

[@towardstar]

they found triplets of right triangles they didnt find the theorem

[@starcapture3040]

this title need some fixation, How Greek Philosophers added to Mathematics. Math existed long before the Greeks.

[@sinusoidalsilhouette510]

Not only that, but Plato and Pythagoras wouldn’t think that they “created” mathematics, but rather discovered.

[@starcapture3040]

@@sinusoidalsilhouette510 they already knew it from Mesopotamia and Egypt. this picture that westerners trying to make us perceive as if the Greeks were living in some sort of vacuum is weird and dumb.

[@sinusoidalsilhouette510]

@@starcapture3040 yea same with India and China. Math is just a very universal thing.

[@starcapture3040]

@@sinusoidalsilhouette510 indeed!

[@LondonPower]

So why the word mathematics is Greek ?

[@Bestlivve]

Annoying music in the background kills what would otherwise be a great listen

[@13minutestomidnight]

However, we all have different perceptions on reality, and so different perceptions on the ultimate truth. The ultimate truth may exist - in fact it does exist - but how we see it and understand it when we see it is key. Being able to look beyond the veil of mundane reality and understand truth is part of the human condition. On a side note, you cannot really call Russian communism a parallel to Plato's republic because it was quickly distorted and twisted by Stalin, who dominated it and used the entire society for his own personal gain - in fact, he became a tyrant King instead. This tainted all of USSR society which came afterwards.

[@_MaxHeadroom_]

3:09 wtf? 🤔

[@donaldwhittaker7987]

I think Pythagoras would be repelled by rap and other sounds that do not contain melody, but only harmony and rhythm, which without melody are just folks beating on logs or drums. If you cannot whistle the music then it isn't music.

[@ScarabChronicles]

Very misleading... "Pythagorean" triples were found on Babylonian tablets and before that about 25,000 BC in the congo, the Ishango bone. It shows evidence of multiplication similar to the math found in Ancient Egypt. The Ancient Greeks were a great civilization but "everything's a remix" they borrowed from those before them.

[@Komdwy]

Borrowed what? Can you prove that Pythagoras based his work on Egyptians' work?

[@ScarabChronicles]

@@Komdwy Borrowed many things. Can you prove all aspects of their civilization are independently developed without outside influence or cultural exchange? No, because almost all civilizations have borrowed from those before them, not just the Greeks. Also I didn't say Pythagoras based his work on Egyptians, although it's possible. I basically said he wasn't the first.

[@Komdwy]

@@ScarabChronicles You claimed that Pythagoras based his work on Egyptian tablets or so. Can you prove it? "Europeans" can't accept the fact that ancient greeks were the Inventors of western civilization.

[@asicdathens]

Triples is easy to calculate like 4,5,6. But Pythagoreans found the formula for every right angled triangle. One side can be 1 light year and the other 1 nm. Still works. This is tha major difference. And they proved it mathematically

[@JaySully7688]

Couldnt get through the entire thing. You need to really want to watch this.

[@publictv7473]

who the hell titled this?

[@rivertonhigh-v4t]

10:35 Hardly anyone listens to classical music, any more than wearing togas, robes, hoses, corsets, making and displaying nude statues . . . and then it moves on to RAP!

[@glps6167]

As Pythagoras lived before Plato, awkward title. How old is this documentary ? The claim that Pythagoras' theorem was a "new discovery" has long been disproved; the Babylonians knew it 1000 years earlier.

[@Half-CockedG]

1990

[@dariaangelopoulou]

We live in a Matrix 😀

[@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602]

This documentary is old and disseminates outdated ideas. The theorem supposedly discovered by Pythagoras was recorded in Cuneiform writing on a clay tablet made 1000 years before that philosopher. We owe modernity more to the Babylonians than to the Greeks.

[@Shaggy-8392]

And the sumerians, their forefathers and Egyptians were using guesswork to work out the stars and create their cities?

[@robertandthecavalry2062]

Conclusion: They fucked up. Back to the drawing board.

[@babusastry]

Too many statements made with SPEAKER'S DECISIONS established. Would have liked to know some real anecdotes S P A, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle. Bombastic statements, even if true, make listening to a narratio n boring. Sorry

[@edwin-pixar1876]

Mathematics is good for many things but it doesnt explain why or how.. only it is like this.

[@dcamron46]

We would’ve had many of these things without Plato…it’s dumb to think so many generations wouldn’t have discovered all that they did because of one man…totally unrealistic

[@piologik]

20:46 where are the twin towers?

[@dcamron46]

So, the first few minutes in and I feel like zero actual interesting information has been shared…not a great start

[@bravebird1578]

Imhotep a polymath and an egyptian preceded them both. He was their teacher...another hijack. No surprise.

[@fercos33]

where did they say that Greeks invented math?

[@haruspexambient]

thank you ancient Greece for our knowledge for trading 8 pieces of biface to 4 pieces of leather or something

[@spj4188]

I agree Plato was a great man with great ideas and a profound philosophy, but man would have still made the same advancements regardless of his existence. No one man is responsible for all this video portrays. It is like saying only one man could ever come up with the idea of a wheel.

[@walt3223]

Pythagoras was a student of Thales, so, his son. Thales brought forth to the ancient Greek world, Geometry and more. I find this video a downer and misleading.

[@MrDelvoye]

Yes greek invented math😂 funny joke

[@stathispap8291]

You know many mathematicians before them writing down tons of books that you can read 2500 years later?

[@fourmula4812]

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[@factsoverfear9771]

Fake news. Egyptians did 💡

[@IronFoot-n1q]

Pythagoras came before Plato. If you're going to soak up all the viewers, at least get a few things right.

[@zeroonetime]

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[@rye8]

Exiled romanian professor?? Wtf, you don't know what you're talking about

[@jacobrush8280]

All the babies crying over Egypt lol

[@King_Cantona7]

Sumerians, the ancient Chinese and Egyptians are downplayed and the Greeks are given all the credit/praise 😁 whitewashing of history.

[@aarongriego429]

they forgot Greeks conquer them