Play Your OWN Way and WIN in PvP (ft. CammyCakes)

[@zaneparmer210]

I think his beard holds his energy and he uses it only when he needs to

[@giantlizard9158]

His beard shrinks when ever he expends some of his energy

[@AnthonyJGianotti]

@@giantlizard9158 keeping calm while being slowed or frozen leads to prodigious growth.

[@Tom-ov1gt]

His beard gives him +10 intellect

[@jethrolincoln7309]

"With great power comes great responsibility"

[@casual8661]

I was wondering if Cammy’s gameplay would be in the background, then I saw a void titan with fighting lion and I just knew i was right

[@TheCrunchyDragon]

Man, I miss Forsaken-era Crucible

[@TheCrunchyDragon]

@Robert Wayne I very much miss when those were the most annoying things in the Crucible.

[@jammyweegit1144]

@@TheCrunchyDragon I miss Forsaken in general. One of the best expansions of any game

[@karma1520]

@@jammyweegit1144 I kinda liked the Taken king a wee bit more but forsaken was also a masterpiece, easy best d2 dlc, I think taken king is the best dlc in general however

[@Sippincoffe]

[Loli] Karma Taken King hands down.

[@grrimley6571]

My two favourite cakes together. This day just got so much better

[@chubbubdreamer6904]

Cakes, cakes, cakes, cakes, cakes....

[@ahmetcan0325]

Whats on your profile pic

[@bestgun9994]

@@ahmetcan0325 w

[@amdinga561]

As soon as I saw the DMT catalyst I started freaking out. I posted about why the gun is gonna be OP on reddit and got downvoted and blown off by a bunch of people talking about how good 120HCs are. I'm so happy to hear you and Cammy talking about this gun- Destiny players do not understand how good MnK OGs are at hipfire aim, but aside from TLW we haven't really flexed those muscles in Destiny yet. Strafe speed, radar up all the time, no ads time, 80ish meter 3 tap without even hitting all crits, bigger magazine and faster reload than 120HCs, plus the damage buff from crits (not even kills). Thank you for validating lol. Anyway great interview, I listened while doing the dishes and chuckled at Cammy's shout out.

[@PattycakesGaming]

I think DMT with catalyst has the highest skill ceiling of any primary if you have insane aim with hipfire. It will be interesting to see where it fits into the meta

[@captainmongoose8134]

Mid tree arc strider blocks revenant!?! Thank you so much for articulating these thought process strategies: “Understand the meta” to play to their weaknesses. These vids are very helpful for me!

[@stupidthefish4981]

It also blocks blade barrage. Ask me how I know.

[@nickoliver3763]

@@stupidthefish4981 how do you know?

[@karma1520]

@@nickoliver3763 he doesn’t, LOL but I actually knew this and you can actually turn the silence and squall on the opponents

[@dril1330]

@@karma1520 how the turns have tabled

[@karma1520]

@@dril1330 uhm a little late but if the tornado is on the ground if you block while it’s there while blocking you will get slowed for a sec than you will make that tornado yours

[@aspire8388]

oh my god FINALLY the cakes' are together

[@nathanaelmcgraw6041]

Them: *talking about mice* Me a console player: "time to skip"

[@karma1520]

Idk if this is helpful or not, but I listen to console tips and my brother who is console listens to pc tips, it helps us counter each other

[@bendubose9887]

So happy about this! Cammycakes is a destiny community treasure and a great example of what makes this game so fun.

[@tonyblobfish5418]

Pattycakes: You can play your own way Me: Oh, I don't think so

[@AlexandreRibeiroXRV7]

Ah, the fabled cake collab.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

Step 1 at being good at the game: add "cakes" to the end of your name

[@Majin_Fuu]

Noted. I will now be changing my steam name from Newtype Pilot to Newtype Cakes

[@morganpriest7726]

Step 2: get a magnificent beard

[@puncakesr5504]

good thing i did step 1 9 years ago

[@Teastott]

Step 3 your picture has to be a food item

[@CakeorDeath1989]

Can confirm that having "cake" in your name does nothing to help your skill in Crucible. 🤣

[@PattycakesGaming]

Hope you really enjoyed this video with CammyCakes! Please take a second to watch his most recent video and leave a comment saying thanks! kzbin.info Watch this next: How to Succeed in PvP Playing YOUR Way (ft. Ascendant Nomad) kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJSZl2umorqGfac

[@judestewman3400]

I am a well of radiance healer warlock and I think I am the most off meta warlock out there ( and yes I am very effective )

[@jimmynails8155]

Fantastic vid, so informative and as always full of pointers which make me want to rebuild 😂 Thank you so much

[@servicx7260]

@@judestewman3400 pp

[@judestewman3400]

@@servicx7260 :(

[@valkyrieace5768]

😆chaos was my 100% go to but i lioe the movement on top trees dawnblade. But ive always used it anyway

[@jacobhoffman6809]

You and Cammy are the two main youtubers that I watch for PVP tips and entertainment, so I’m glad that you did this collab!

[@Jbrewty]

This was absolutely amazing. The dialogue and conversations were very enjoyable. Thanks for the tips guys. 🤘

[@bloosnafu132]

Great video and I love the series. Also I appreciate the shoutout from CammyCakes, because I was doing the dishes/chores listening to this.

[@-FLIPSID3]

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again and keep saying it every time you put out a video in this series: IT'S WICKED AWESOME!! Absolutely love the commentary and discussions and I'm a huge fan of CammyCakes as well - and love watching him play. I learn something every time I watch either of you play and appreciate the insights you provide. Keep up the great vids and gameplay!

[@brdnlng]

Cammy is very intelligent and aware in pvp. Always has been since D2 began. It's one of the reasons I'm such a big fan.

[@nikolasb5111]

Love this episode! Cammy has been one of my biggest teachers in the game. As far as anti-meta loadouts, I always think: if I can build a loadout that can frustrate what 80% of the players are using, I can win about 80% more.

[@Gravesyte]

3:08 Welp you caught me Cammy I always listen to these while I'm at work

[@brianlindauer4084]

Awesome video! I'm an anti-meta player who's honestly not actually trying to get better...but just simply trying to have a satisfying and fun time. Hearing the thought process of individuals who DO try to improve, and DO try to "play their best game" (as it were) is invaluable since it's such a foreign way of thinking. Thanks again. Oh and btw, listening to you two discuss "deck building" and meta strats makes me think that you would love a channel called TierZoo. Seriously, I think you will find it hilariously informative. You should def give it a try. All the best.

[@PattycakesGaming]

Haha I've watched a lot of tierzoo's videos

[@brianlindauer4084]

@@PattycakesGaming it's so amazing. My teenage kids and I love it!

[@Peekoh]

So I am a PvE-only player and this video happened to appear on my feed. That being said, for some reason this video was extremely intriguing for me. I’ve always seen PvP as whoever has the best aiming skills like many other FPS games. I didn’t realize this much thought went into the more competitive side of PvP and it really has improved my opinion of it. I don’t know if it is due to Destiny’s gameplay or the players within it but this definitely paints PvP is a brighter light for me. I genuinely learned a lot so a HUGE thanks to you both for putting it together.

[@certifiedwack9042]

when Cammy said if you got stuck at the power ammo kill part is "probably because you're a slayer" made me so happy because I did solo queue for my hunter and was stuck on that part for like 6 games but once I got past that part my team was getting the power pull like 3 times a game... Cammy thinks I'm a slayer :')

[@shinzoku840]

Thank you so much for this amazing video , can’t wait to see a collaboration video like this with Coolguy soon 🙏🏻😇

[@Freelancer-nv6ds]

Cammycakes is a legend in my eyes. While I'm guilty of copying his off meta loadouts it eventually led me to find what really worked for me. I love both of your guy's channels and I hope the best for both of you in the future.

[@dalebarrs297]

Really great interview, glad it finally happened. Got the two best cakes together

[@alexdukec.7551]

I loved. Please do a part 2. It was fun to watch these two bearded bois talk Destiny

[@LykeTwice]

Killing wind hip fire strafe on the dead man’s is actually insane. I’ve been loving it

[@richsainsbury2285]

Cammy is great i love his outside the box approach he always captivates me

[@spacemantiss]

Your videos have taught me so much about the crucible. And I've only watched two.

[@quarvo23]

Cammy and Coolguys cards have been my favorite things to watch recently. Cammy is so smart and tactical, they have such good communication and Coolguy is probably the most positive PvP player I’ve watched. It’s invigorating watching them for me for some reason

[@kmanl6461]

I've been waiting for this video for a while, I absolutely love it. Thank you!

[@jigglypuffsbattlezone2985]

I was really happy when my friend and I thought HC targeting went away. We expected that it was a bug, but also really hoped Bungie kept it the way it was because it would give other weapons a little more chance to shine without HC's being as popular and forgiving. I'm kinda missing that auto rifle meta now. lol

[@joalex79]

im not auto meta was the most unskilled thing ever

[@MrPinkpanzer]

I'd love for HC+ snipe/shotgun to take a hit. You get so many benefits for using HC already, it should have a less competitive ttk.

[@whysogrim697]

Strongest primary Vex mythoclast "Laughs in No Land Beyond"

[@giantlizard9158]

"laughs in thorn"

[@imbreaden]

Laughs in Armour Piercing rounds snipers

[@whysogrim697]

"Laughs in clever dragon pre high cal nerf"

[@mukymakazuki2218]

Vex mythoclast Was beyond broken for a short while. No other weapon was nearly as broken ever again.

[@thebiggru2637]

@@mukymakazuki2218 what about Pocket Infinity?

[@Chezmite999]

Love how it says beat the meta and then a one eyed mask titan on the thumbnail

[@Artikz_]

Atleast its not a revenant with 120 felwinter and stompes

[@dwayne12346]

@@Artikz_ LMAOOO

[@hitherez_2925]

He was using witherhoard, so it’s a bit better.

[@LastNameInTown]

Woohoo I have a 0.5KD and a 60% win ratio, THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME MORE CONFIDENT CAKE BROS!!! Great series PattyCakes. Your channel and positive vibes have quickly made this my fave D2 channel. I would love to hear CammyCakes take post Stasis nerf on anti meta building. Thank you for the upload and hard work!

[@jadonooi1990]

CammyCakes in my opinion is one of the most creative players I have ever watched. He’s insane and super calm under pressure.

[@ahugasaurus9140]

I always tell my friends, dont play the game... play the opponent. I believe with this mentality, this really separates the good players from the bad ones. good video

[@MrGrifs21]

Brilliant video and I massively appreciate the positive tone and the advice. Love both the cakes ;)

[@Tr1s]

Yaaas man Cammy is the reason I picked up snipelion as well In y1 was the biggesed blueberry under the sun Now I have 5k pvp kills on my lion and 7k on my bite of the fox Thank you man for every incredible build you've come up over the years made my experience playing the game a lot more enjoyable.

[@theoffsetproject4294]

Very nice ep love seeing the cake brokers caring it up

[@turtleturt27]

The whole comment about mental taxation is something i never thought of. I recently swapped some button maps and have been playing much worse, and the mental space needed to remember the spots is definitely a thing that degrades my aim and awareness. Expanding on this topic would be amazing

[@alexsharp3481]

this has been an incredible video. thank you!

[@fiddlestx123]

Knowing and understanding the meta was how I got to unbroken using the smugglers word tractor cannon and those hunters boots that screw radar. I haven’t played in a year forgot the name of em.

[@jethrolincoln7309]

As soon as I saw Cammie's Citans build I switched from my anti meta and have loved it ever since.

[@mikeborisoff1418]

This video is legendary, please make a part 2.

[@CookiesFTA]

It's hilarious imagining anyone thinking of Cammy as getting carried because all he's doing is having total knowledge of the game flow and directing the match based on that...

[@baconbitz7804]

Do people think he’s carried?

[@abacate]

The part about sleeves actually got a laugh out of me. I've moved to a mouse mat that basically covers my whole desk for similar reasons.

[@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth]

Thank you this confirmed some theory's I had. It's nice to hear my max resilience titan is good.

[@chattycat0052]

my biggest issue I've noticed while playing is my reaction speed is always lagging behind, and my consistency is everywhere

[@xxmusashi]

This vid is so good and my take is don’t sweat it about the meta use it up until like cammy said you’d (understand it) and then when you feel comfortable go in and challenge it tbh I was a day one One eyed mask user cuz I was a scrub and once I saw cammy go for unbroken on a free to play acc I kinda felt like maybe I should try and understand the meta started farming Tatara Gaze (rip the beast of a sniper) got a 110 HC and finally I started having fun in pvp thanks guys for the good vid

[@BionicThiago123]

Watched this when it originally aired, but it got recommended to me again and I couldn’t not watch it. Cammy is the 🐐.

[@PattycakesGaming]

He is!

[@NamiTheAlpha]

Don’t need to watch the whole video to like it. Thank you for making this, people need to realize there r other guns besides the meta ones. It’s annoying to see a game like this with so many options and see no one using them. Everyone running around with the same set up takes some of the fun and mystery out of pvp.

[@Ok-hq7lx]

my favorite subclass is top tree nightstalker in crucible and pve, i find it very fun to play and invis + smoke bomb outplays are so satisfying

[@ruinnimbus4616]

I see cammy be rockin that underrated way of the current💪🏾

[@guy4652]

been waiting for this one, great video and congrats on 70k Patty!

[@ValentinParkourGaming]

Leaving a like, and commenting on the video even before watching it ! I cant wait to watch this ! I love Cammy Cakes ! I want him to be me dad !

[@Revaks]

This was great! Would definitely watch a part 2

[@casual1857]

This was really helpful. Thank you. As someone returning to the game this really helps

[@MagicManCM]

Last Word duels with my brother is some of the most fun I've had in the game with PvP outside of good ole Rumble before Stasis

[@starkindustries7429]

You guys are my fav streamers, great content as always

[@sxfwaani]

I’d love to play with u once they add crossplay later in the year hopefully

[@XxdskaterxX]

I run 1 discipline too because I have a tripple 100 build but with the fragment where you can get ability energy by shattering stasis crystals + double bomber I get a get a grenade every 28 seconds so it’s basically like tier 10

[@solticex]

I really like this video. My main build is monarque, astral, and citans. I've run monarque since it was released and citans since it came out. The reason why I use that combo is it is a hard counter to hardscopers and 3peekers since once I throw up the shield, now I control the lane. Monarque counters the high recovery everyone seems to run, because the poison ticks keeps their regen from starting. Therefore my lower recov still comes out on top. Monarque is also a "guiding laser" for my team, because once they see someone explode in purple mist, its time to collapse and clean up. You can use citans as a defense against shotguns, since one shot takes down the barricade, but no pellets break through, giving me the split second advantage. I switch to Point of the Stag during super rounds because most roaming supers don't expect the damage output and become pretty careless. Because of my loadout, I get shunned by the sweat community. I went to a sweats stream after a match to compliment their shot, but instead they just insulted me. I'm glad this video exists, because it proves that you don't have to be so one dimensional when playing Destiny. Play how you want to play, and if your loadout is different from what most of the community is using but you can keep up with your skill bracket, just go for it.

[@cykeok3525]

What Cammy is said about most players ignoring Resilience is really important, especially if your aim isn't super good. I find Opening Shot to be a great perk for 120 HCs, because it gives a free headshot on your first shot. Then if the guy is Resilience 4 or lower, you just need two more body hits. This ease of use also lets you land these hits when you're rapidly peeking in and out of cover and taking reflex shots without really properly placing your reticle. Optimal TTK without even needing to really aim! The range of abilities that let you one-body low Resilience players with Aggressive Frame sniper rifles is also massive. Empowering Rift, Inertia Override, Frontal Assault, Sunspots.. it's a huge list. I'll bet at least one of those many class/subclass builds is one that you're already familiar with, just throw an Aggressive Snipe on it and give it a try.

[@thatguynobodylikes8892]

if you hate shogun rushers, top tree golden gun hunter with spine of arhemkara is so good, you can really hold down an area with the trip mine grenades and throwing knife and by the time your grenade expires you have another one up, you can also double stack those abilitys on a surface for a 1shot or an easier kill on a super and it makes your opponents look for grenades and you can catch them by surprise if they are trying to shoot a grenade or if they are looking for one, also you get your super back faster because it is a light super and it can duel other supers pretty well or you can get 3 kills pretty easy

[@retrorocket562]

Another interesting exotic to bring up would be Anteus wards. Before it was considered meta it was a meme exotic, deflecting supers and rockets was fun and almost impossible. With the slight buff and bug fix causing a huge meta shift and making it basically essential to titans. Cool topic to bring up, hope you guys can talk about more examples.

[@isaac_r_s2716]

My favorite neutral game Hunter exotic that I’ve been maining for the past two seasons probably is the bombardiers pants, I dodge and a grenade with the strength of a body sniper shot depending on distance, I can finish off close range defeats especially against shotgun rushers, also in pve it’s add clear if I get into a sticky situation or if I have to reload or even to help with DPS on bosses because it also does do a good chunk of damage, with it I’ve also been using my hunter dodge a lot more than I used to because I tended not to use my abilities and just focused on gun play, I think it’s an underrated exotic

[@LemanRusk]

Cammy is one of the most naturally gifted players I have ever seen, I think he could use literally anything like hey a blue sniper rifle and beat the meta. Which makes it hilarious seeing him spend hours upon hours grinding out one specific roll on one specific gun in order to be "competitive". Really if freaking Cammycakes feels the need to do that in order to "beat the meta" literally everyone else is fucked.

[@good_morning_guardians]

I WAS LITERALLY DOING THE DISHES

[@clifflenoir4323]

I listen to these videos regularly whilst doing the dishes as it is the only time I get between work, looking after the kids and then finally getting on the computer to play when I can listen and learn. Still a total noob in Crucible and in CS:GO, though the tips from here and Ascendant Nomad are helping me to play smarter

[@93ksj]

Cammy is incredible, smart plans and perfect execution

[@williamlocascio1728]

Bro, that beard is F***ing MAJESTIC. If Zavbalda saw this beard he'd send you on that one-way ticket patrol feel me.

[@Set-vt]

Fought you in Control today! Had fun :)

[@O-bearer-mine]

Another thing to note about dead man's It is a scout Anti barrier scout does extra damage against titan barricades Seasonal mods can make differences in PvP to Unstoppable = 3x flinch Overload = 10% less damage and slows ability regen (stacks with stasis slow) Anti barrier extra damage against titan barricades

[@HarmonicVector]

4:06 *Quantum Ranger's most powerful weapon: laying on his back.*

[@MagicManCM]

I'll be honest, I don't know why more people don't use Starfire Protocol, its absolutely one of my favorites to run on both top and middle tree Dawnblade for Heat Rises and Divine Protection and nobody ever expects to have to deal with an Empowering Rift.

[@blix17]

Some actual skillful gameplay wow! :) Also i wish snipers were strong on console but the flinch (with double unflinching mods) is rediculus especially when getting shot by a 120 across the map

[@WretchedBlueFox]

I’m not a PvP kinda person but when I do I use those arms. XD and the scout DMT paired with a bottom dollar. Now I’m looking into the meta and seeing all this and hyped I don’t have to change my build too much

[@TomoFromEarth]

This is the one I’ve been waiting for. 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@cammycakesgaming]

🍵

[@Phoenix_KDE]

Mouse: Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless My weapon loadout for PvP since this season started.. Dunno if it could be considered meta or not but it's been working for me Stasis Warlock Aspects: Iceflare Bolts and Bleak Watcher Fragments: Whisper of Torment/Shards/Hedrons Weapons: Hawkmoon (smallbore, eye of the storm, smooth Grip), Salvager's Salvo (ambitious assassin, chain reaction) and code duello

[@icalldignals5298]

Really loved this video. Could you make one for solo players?

[@veggilman8621]

I'm not a meta slave so I'm always trying new combos out. My latest combo is the suckfield nade and skyburners oath. Chill till freeze than lob a bunch of hipfire shots at the froze group. I've been getting alot of triple kills

[@CakeorDeath1989]

I've been having fun this season with an Omnioculus build with bottom tree Nightstalker. It's fun with Ratking for sure, but where I've found the most success is using it with Thorn and Truthteller. It's great for comp, as having access to Vanish in Smoke almost constantly allows me to flank opponent teams. It's quite common for an opponent to come walking round a corner, not expecting me to be stood there, and end up literally walking into a grenade from Truthteller. Thorn is a great pairing - if your Truthteller has Disruption Break then Thorn will have no issues cleaning up kills with a single shot. Thorn's poison ensures kills if you don't manage it with the body shot, or delay the opponent's health regeneration just long enough that they won't be able to push or your team is able to move in. It's funny that I've only just stumbled across using GLs in Crucible, considering in my clan I'm sort of known as the guy who likes to blow stuff up. I mean, it's rarely I don't have a GL equipped in PvE, and Bombardiers are easily my most used exotic. I've clearly got a talent for breech loaders, which leads me to believe that all Guardians have their own special talents, be it for submachine guns, snipers, Arbalest, fusion rifles, whatever, and that's *precisely* what they should be using and trying to make work in Crucible. With enough practice I'm confident people will be able to combat your Stasis and your Felwinter's users.

[@amethystprince2746]

Interesting thing about fighting lion, I run truthteller and have been using it for so long it's nearly instinct for me and I rarely see grenade launchers used. I think most players don't understand grenade launchers which is why it's not as common but I'm wondering why choose fighting lion over a legendary grenade launcher so you could run a different exotic

[@-The-Golden-God-]

Beard oil is pretty hard on your skin. Beard conditioner is the way for sure. I use a beard conditioner & face moisturiser all-in-one and it's fantastic.

[@vagabundo375]

thanks cammy for making me feel better about my izanagy's body shots

[@Stephetheon]

Dark Souls 3 has a frequently changing meta. Currently that includes Gundyr's Halberd (a weapon that is easily countered), but because it's very intimidating to some players, they don't realize the huge weaknessin the weapon. The last update was in 2017, I think

[@boredtolife7879]

cammy discussions never disappoint

[@kagame1726]

Idk if this is off meta but dunemarchers on mid arc tree titan is really good and people are missing out on that.

[@DropbearDrops]

So the big question that I have after watching this whole video, is what are the roles in destiny PVP for you guys? I heard Cammy make a comment about if you’re pushing ahead and you’re letting your team Cap you’re in the slayer role. Could you make a video, maybe another one talking to him, about what the PVP roles are in different game modes and how do you capitalize on those roles?

[@PattycakesGaming]

I definitely tend towards the slayer role or support role most of the time, in game leader is not really my thing

[@stranger21077]

Cammys call outs are god tier

[@roblettinga3504]

Been using the Fool's remedy sidearm with nearly max range, rangefinder and high cal. It wins every gun fight in it's intended range. Only counter is a pre-charged fusion rifle or maybe stasis xD lol. The time-worn spire has been pretty great too. I don't have a god roll unfortunately though

[@Suknmy]

3:40 the art of war 😂👌

[@Xephyr79]

I feel like I’m watching a documentary, haha. Such great editing and very helpful!

[@VincentBrownDGA]

Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thank you.

[@CuPc8K3]

LOVED this one. Keep them up, these are always so interesting. #RoadTo100k 🎉

[@lordcookies4451]

So glad i got a shoutout for doing the dishes as i was watching this lmao

[@theedethproof8147]

I maintain tier 10 mobility, tier 7 resilience, 7 recovery, since shadowkeep :) my overall kdr is 2.07 !

[@nefarious8278]

I’m currently farming for armentariun and hear of inmost light so I either have empowered lightning nade or more lighting nade. So I put but my shield and throw my nade above my head when people rush me

[@JonahUniverse]

I could listen to you guys talk about crucible all day!

[@Slr.P]

10:33 did he just turn the enemy tornado into a friendly one? That's really mind-blowing

[@karma1520]

Yeah it can do that