The Last of Us Iceberg - 70 + Facts About TLOU & The Last of Us Part 2 Story Lore!

[@charliecharlston]

about sarah and ellie being related i always thought the idea was that maybe they share a mother? but its so unclear who ellies mom was and who or what sarahs mom was, theres the possibility but personally i doubt that

[@charliecharlston]

also glad to see a playstation fan who isn't complaining about woke culture omg. as a queer person playing tlou it sucks to see the gaming community shit on lev being a trans man and boycotting yhe game over a fake leak of abby being trans

[@charliecharlston]

actually on abby being trans- obviously she could be, but i dont like that because of the idea that "trans women will somehow look like the dudes they were" and even on the opposite route where people think shes a trans Guy its like taking away from her womanhood because of her muscles and her being kind of a brute, its the damn apocalypse and also we literally saw her boobs and her younger self, shes so obviously just a buff cis girl and i have no complaints because hubba hubba buff woman step on me

[@PSSourceVids]

@@charliecharlston I appreciate it! Those boycotting and talking shit about TLOU because of those aspects are gross human beings. Not who I want on this channel. - Kevin

[@katlyndobransky2419]

This would be wild if it was true omg

[@MrDead00]

Tbh it would suck, what makes ellie special is that she is a random girl which got loved by joel, not a relative not a chosen one (Well except her immunitt but yk what i mean) So that wouldnt make sense narratively

[@minastuart7025]

About Joel being a villain. He is A villain, he just not our villain. Joel is a bad person. But he was forced to be that way as a means of survival. He regains a lot of his humanity as he travels with Ellie that he lost the night Sarah died. His character development is truly beautiful.

[@robogreek3157]

Jesus christ. JOEL IS A SURVIVOR. dude was a loving single father. He's just an asshole and selfish... not a bad person

[@SorinPetre-ir1wf]

Eh,kinda not the same thing when you kill torture and hurt for necessity/survival and when you do it for either pleasure or a vendetta. One is more understandable than the other.

[@maddoxio]

Joel does imply he killed innocent people, even when he didn't have too.

[@mrantmoney1]

I’m not sure if Ellie actually forgave Abby. I think by letting Abby go, Ellie is literally letting go of all the hate/anger she felt. Similarly, she never got the chance to forgive Joel but their last conversation she was definitely letting go of the hate/anger towards him. I just don’t think you ever forgive Abby for doing what she did but you can let go, move forward

[@rahteljackson433]

Forgiveness and healing/letting go go hand in hand, if you dont forgive you will be haunted by your past, the thoughts, feelings and actions that follow the bitterness felt will return. Resulting in memories rising because of sensory stimulation, memories give way to feelings, and falling to feelings result in actions, or reactions due to bitterness and trauma. Bitterness is the brains response to pain as to prevent hurt from occuring, like a scab, you cant love out of a full heart to everyone, because your past prevents you from moving forward truly when you dont forgive. But like a scab when ointment is introduced the scab falls off, because it isn't necessary anymore

[@axelarroyo3286]

Sometimes ya gotta eat it. If you don't you continue on in this cycle. And that's what part 2 is about. Realizing that you have to accept it for what it is. That person you love (Joel in this case) was a bad person and he knew what was coming. You can't be mad at the person that got revenge. They doled out what Joel gave to others. Normal people won't understand it. Because they have never lived it.

[@CR7GOATofFootball]

@@axelarroyo3286 good concept but TLOU2 part 2 executed it terribly.

[@DarthCaviar]

Joel didn't have to die

[@darrensucksatgames]

To be fair, they were both basically even stevens by the end with the damn trail of bodies they left behind. 😭

[@keeganlaughlin]

I love how people are like “Ellie is so aggressive this isn’t her” We have seen what she is capable of with her killing David so young. If her only father figure in life got brutally murderer in front of her as she begged for forgiveness, I’m sure she’d be a little mad and want vengeance.

[@Taima]

Not to mention the world she grew up in in general, the things she’s seen even beyond killing David. The aggression is only not her in the sense that only in cases of extreme trauma or similar like family being savagely killed in front of you can make people do things no one thought they’d ever do.

[@keeganlaughlin]

@@Taima exactly, the world of the last of us is a world where empathy has the price of pain and ellie doesn’t choose to be as empathetic as Abby does to a lot of people

[@33jin90]

⁠@@keeganlaughlinAbby chose to be more more empathetic? Nope, they were just simply same kind of grieving people at different stage. Seattle Ellie was Jackson Abby, Epilogue Ellie was Seattle Abby. This is fair Comparison.

[@kapil3627]

literally like ellie always had a little bit of rage and anger in her, and killing david definitely changed her. seeing joel get brutally killed definitely caused more trauma than she already had which she responded with aggression.

[@GamerIsAwesome1]

If we base the age of Joel in both games it’s actually said he had Sarah when he was 16-17 making me believe that it was an accidental pregnancy which also makes me believe Sarah’s mother didn’t want to keep Sarah but Joel did so he kept her while her mother went out for some milk

[@lachieatkinson801]

There’s a line of dialogue in the original game in which Joel says he was married once

[@georgeadavis321]

Makes sense cause Joel was definitely struggling financially. Also that old man strength I'm thinking comes from all the hard labor he did through the years I think he was in construction if I'm remembering correctly

[@strawbawrri249]

@@georgeadavis321 basically, he was a carpetner to be specific though

[@strawbawrri249]

also joel was 32 when the outbreak happened. he was born is 1981, making him 20 when Sarah was born.

[@Ellie-tp9wk]

Joel was born in 1981, and Sarah in 2001. Means that he was 20 when she was born. Which is quite okay to be honest

[@stonecold8365]

i think we need a game of the messed up stuff tommy and joel did to survive over the years, i hope if they go this route they have crazier gameplay and visuals

[@danielcooke6846]

Hell yes!

[@TheMainMate]

Omg yesss they could be with the fireflies, meet Tess and Marlene.

[@flip8966]

Yes I would definitely pay 70 bucks for that

[@canopus5178]

Not a game but maybe a comic would be good !!

[@coleymoley8222]

Or even a dlc type game adding to the remake they did with the first game, buts it unlikely since im pretty sure part 3 is in the works and I doubt naughty dog juggles so many games in short time spam would be pretty awesome though

[@morganclarke9284]

Ellie cannot infect others and she knows that, she used it as a bluff against David so he'd let his guard down. Not only does she kiss and I'm sure do more with Dina, but she tells Dina after her infection gets revealed that she "can't get [Dina] infected if that's what [Dina's] worried about". We also see Ellie bite Abby in their showdown at the theatre, enough time passes to show that Abby had no lasting effects from Ellies' bite.

[@tracybrady453]

Wanna see more of the "stuff" that she thought Dina was worried about 😏

[@littlebosaMusic]

28:00 I'm surprised more people don't bring up the fact that a side effect of the cordyceps is increased aggression, even if you weren't infected. It's a second-hand infection that can occur when you're around numerous infected for extended periods of time, there's a poster about it in The last of Us part One inside a cargo truck. Maybe the reason Ellie was acting "insane" in part 2 was because it was her first long-term exposure to infected.

[@saldetii]

the infected being conscious has always been such a disturbing and interesting talking point to me. I think its even more disturbing to hear their sounds outside of combat- in your clip, not only are they crying but it sounds like they're choking down the flesh they're eating too. it sound so torturous

[@nikkydalby7126]

Knowing you’re literally eating human flesh - the flesh of someone you knew or love & not having full control to stop your actions would be horrific. I’m vegetarian so doubly gross for me 😅

[@TheOutsider69]

25:48 The Surgeon's Recorder: There is actually no mention at all of other immune individuals. The "subjects" mentioned in that specific recorder refer only to individuals at various stages of infection. I.e. People who were just bitten and agreed to undergo testing or captured/killed infected such as runners, stalkers, clickers, etc... Ellie is the only case of immunity they've encountered. Keep in mind that when referring to "past cases" they are talking about infected individuals, which Ellie is. Ellie is infected but also immune. She is an asymptomatic, noninfectious case. Meaning that, while she is infected, she displays no symptoms and cannot transmit the infection to others. Essentially the infection is dormant within her.

[@simp5615]

Ive been wondering about her temperature tho, cause theres a scene where she, tess and joel are stopped by fedra and they all get checked by what i presume is a thermometre, and when ellie gets checked it flashes red? Is her temperature high or is the device something completely different than what i thought? Lol

[@pickle1517]

@@simp5615 probably completely different, In the show we see the fungus growing under skin, presuming it’s the same i think itd detect unnatural skin or veins

[@imsleepy6211]

@@simp5615 I thought that detector thing they use detected molecules from the fungus? I mean someone gets bit and the fungus rapidly procreates to infect the host rather quickly. Body temp will rise if you’re exercising so say you’re running (in general or just fled some crap) your skin will be hotter than someone who’s been sedentary - so if it was a thermometer to check for fever it would be going off A LOT. 20 minutes after exercise typically people’s core temp will return to normal but there is a scene where Joel and the gang had just been running and got caught by the army. Two of them were clear and that’s when Ellie just stabs the person to avoid getting scanned. Running for that long plus the flight or fight response could easily cause body temp to reach over 100 which would look like a fever. I am so sorry for rambling lmao

[@Bryandan1elson]

@@simp5615 its not a thermostat lol it detects infection in the blood

[@saladtongs671]

on the "Joel is Immune" part i was very confused as to what you meant, but then i realized the one instance where joel would have been near spires without his mask: the bloater in the gym. Simple answer is that acid spores are not the same as infection spores, not to mention if you play that encounter right you don't even HAVE to be in the acid clouds.

[@chengong388]

Realistically it must be really hard to find immune people because most people aren't going to you know, try to find out if they're immune.

[@syra1541]

yeppp

[@syra1541]

i feel like someone could figure out a way to test their blood or something lmaoo

[@_Dacor]

Also a lot of people would probably just off themselves if they are infected

[@ethanleffler9969]

And if someone did find out they're immune they would probably hide it just like Ellie does

[@Amsayy]

Nathan Drake causing CBI then fucking off with Elena and their daughter to a remote island is iconic

[@brianduffy9942]

Just played through byhe beginning of TLOU pt1. While Joel and Tess are walking over to find Robert at the beginning, there is a child npc at the end of the alley with the black market, fight club and card tables. She's holding a stuffed giraffe. When you approach her as Joel, she clutched the stuffed animal closer, indicating she's suspicious you'll try to take it away from her.

[@robogreek3157]

So?

[@christianjendraschek8201]

To me it was always about Ellie finding the forgiveness inside herself by "correcting" her last Memory of Joel inside her head. Over the course of her whole "crusade of revenge" there is always this Image of Joel, dying on the floor, haunting Ellie - but right before she kills Abby she sees the Image of Joel she wants to remember - a peaceful one, the one where she Talks to Joel at his house and they agree to try and reconnect. So she stops herself and lets Abby live - cause she finally deleted this tragic last Image inside her head and changed it into a good memory. I believe the worst Part for Ellie was always the aspect that Abby robbed her of the Chance to reconnect to Joel, to really get the Chance to forgive him truly. But forgiving Abby seems to give her peace of mind concerning that aspect.

[@MrDead00]

She already forgave him, but she feels guilty that he didnt know that yet... She wanted to reconnect at cinema night (she planned it, he had no idea so in his head she didnt forgave him) But Well till e get part 3 we wont get sure answer

[@rogertemple7193]

I'd like to think that even though it wasn't stated that Joel knew Ellie forgave him and even after his death her visiting his grave and later in the end that he somehow knows she forgave him and she had a feeling going through her that he knew and that his spirit could now rest in peace knowing it or at least that's how I took it ?.

[@ByLocke]

If I'm not mistaken, in Part 1 when Joel and Ellie go to the Uni, they find out that a monkey bit the scientists and that's how the infection spread there. Seems like animals have the dormant virus but the virus only takes actions when it infects humans.

[@Basically-Retarded]

its likely that monkeys severed as an intermediary host before the fungus made the jump to humans.

[@ceedee873]

It's just a 28 days later reference, but maybe primates show the same symptoms as humans. Would make sense seeing how closely related the 2 species are.

[@Marixchatt]

@@ceedee873 honestly, im shocked the monkeys were Asymptomatic. It took COVID less than a year to jump to dogs. Coryceps in their universe jumped from insects and other simple arthropods, so in my mind it’s not a matter of if I can infect other animals but when. Also, something I found cool is that in the show is that Ellie thinks monkeys started the infection. I wonder if someone was bit by an infected asymptomatic monkey making people think that a regular monkeys started everything.

[@Marixchatt]

If it can*

[@ceedee873]

@@Marixchatt It could be a form of propaganda generated by FEDRA or simply rumours made up by kids for story-telling entertainment. Not much else to do in the end of the world except for surviving and speculating.

[@CiloAngel]

Isn't technically Joel's birthday before outbreak day? because Sarah looks at the clock and it's like 10 mins to 12 when she gives him his birthday present. Then later when she wakes up it's about 1:30 - 2 AM

[@pickle1517]

probably celebrated day before

[@lucask4377]

Depends on when you actually consider outbreak day. Everything probably kicked off on the same day and just got worse from there

[@SMENECl]

You actually do combat FEDRA for a short time as Joel leads Ellie out of town when they first meet in part 1.

[@lucask4377]

You also fight them on the bridge with Marleen

[@Tuck3rm00r3]

I think Joel and Tess were basically dating but they were too scared to fully commit cuz it would be worse when one of them eventually die

[@L77kaMagic817]

Other than the fact Joel loved Ellie as his own daughter and protecting her was redemption for failing to keep Sarah alive, it would be interesting to know His mindset when he rescued her from the Fireflies. I wonder if he knew (perhaps by his own misdeeds) that humanity was lost and there was no way things could go back to being the same, regardless of a cure or not. This could've been his motivation when telling Ellie, "There is no cure", perhaps referring not to the cordyceps, but to the underlying root cause that the cordyceps brought to surface, that humanity is the ultimate reason for the current state of the world in the TLOU Universe.

[@Amsayy]

This is a good mindset. How does humanity come back from the horrors it did to itself? Sacrificing Ellie for a cure doesn't erase the violent murder, rape, cannibalism, destruction etc that they did to each other, never mind the infected. Humanity collapsed i

[@eddiediaz5518]

@Victor Nieves have we though? I feel that those times were either out of luck or because humans in those events could actually put their egos aside and fix the world, but take the world in TLOU and quite frankly our world in general, we’re beyond saving, because we only want to save ourselves, 20 years in an apocalypse tends to destroy moral compasses, and bring out the absolute worst in people such as greed, ignorance, selfishness, and no empathy. So even if the cure by some miracle did actually get made, it wouldn’t take the Fireflies long to realize that they can use the cure as a way to gain power rather than to actually distribute it to people

[@synshenron798]

That could be the case. Who knows honestly. Id say its very plausable because how would anyone be able to get/keep people like the hunters under control? If there were small communes like Jackson scattered throughout the country then I could maybe see something resembling the "old world" come together but humanity and the world as we know it now would never come back. Maybe thats what humanity needs. A purge of life to restart and try again

[@d_marv3lous237]

51:18 there's also a little girl holding a stuffed giraffe hidden in a corner at the beginning when you're going to find robert

[@b3qtr1s21]

this is the first video that i watched from your channel and i was not disappointed!!! i loved everything about it, what i respect the most was how you never made any homophobic or transphobic comments about any of the characters, especially when you talked about abby being trans, not only that but you made it clear how wrong was to give misleading information to other people about it, i know it is the bare minimum, but as i am in the 'the last of us' fandom since 2016 i saw a lot of those type of comments and never really understood why someone would say that, so thank you! it means so much to me as a queer person!! :)

[@PSSourceVids]

I’m glad you enjoyed it! Hope you stick around the channel, definitely doing more iceberg videos in the future. - Kevin

[@chattycatty3336]

Answer to what happened to Riley: she turned. We know this because at the end of the last of us part 1 ellie tells Joel the story, "...we can be all poetic and lose our minds together...she was the first to turn...im still waiting for my turn.." (She goes on but the relevance ends there). Id love to know what happened after though. Did she kill Riley? Or leave her behind in that building?

[@Jona69]

Ellie said "She was the first to die" not turn specifically. So it's not confirmed.

[@chattycatty3336]

@@Jona69 oh fr? Thanks for letting me know, my bad

[@amberschneider8198]

“not to be watched in one sitting” it’s 5am, i have insomnia and snacks so yeah it’s good for one sitting :))

[@PSSourceVids]

Awh :( I hope you get sleep soon! - Kevin

[@baldman3160]

i read ellie and abbys fight as the end as a cathartic struggle for relief from a character who cant escape grief no matter how hard she tries. every waking moment is missing joel and she needs to hurt the person who caused it but she realizes that killing abby would ultimately undermine the lesson that she learned over the course of the game.

[@spreadwuvokay]

"I can't kill Abby cause it would undermine the lesson that I learned throughout the game." -Ellies subconscious

[@schizofreniccunt1952]

​@@spreadwuvokay story was kinda raw, but atleast it tried

[@nbr6116]

I personally don't buy into the "Joel hates Humanity Theory, as his own struggle over these 20 years has been filled with a lot of human experiences and he did fit into Jackson as a member of the city quite nicely. Also there's the Line in Part One where he tells Tommy" I'm bringing you the cure for mankind and I wanna play the pissy little brother", which quite clearly indicates that he thinks of solutions for a potential cure being worthwhile. Is actions at the end are more so born from a love for Ellie than a hatred for humanity

[@milesmemory]

I think the American Girls entry related to American Girl Dolls as they’re parodied in the mall in Left Behind, there’s a whole store that looks like the AG stores

[@zanetlou1689]

Honestly I would love to see a movie about ish and his struggles, what happened to the sewers and how he survived after that

[@BroFellaGuyMan]

Very well done! As someone who was just introduced to the TLOU universe a few months ago I have made it my mission to consume every bit of content related to it. Same goes for GoW so definitely looking forward to that. Thanks again for the effort and dedication 🙏🏽

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. - Kevin

[@lostandfound6958]

Soy

[@RosieGrl]

I’ve beat this game a couple times and just started my 4th playthrough in grounded, the second Joel starts singing to ellie I’m a sobbing mess 😂 it’s worse when you know how it ends.

[@spadez7892]

Something I’ve never seen posted anywhere or talked about by anyone: during my first play through of TLOU2, while searching the hospital garage where you encounter the rat king after going through the door it was locked behind, I noticed that you could clearly see two trails of “blood/juice/carnage” that veer off from each other and go there separate ways. One belonging to the rat king which ambushes you in the ambulance. The other jumps over some rubble and breaks it’s way out a wall or door. This was so obvious and apparent to me during my first run, that I honestly expected to encounter another “piece” of the rat king later on or in Ellie’s campaign. When it never happened, I thought that perhaps you’d encounter it in DLC. I recently played the game again and noticed the two trails. Had anyone else noticed this before, or am I completely bat-shit crazy?

[@PSSourceVids]

I’m going to personally remember this, save it, find it when I play Part 2 again and credit you in a sequel to The Last of Us iceberg if we ever do a part 2. Will it show up in Tommy’s DLC 😅 - Kevin

[@Cod597]

Any update to this? Can’t find any footage or anything

[@spadez7892]

@@Cod597 honestly, I might just play the game and post the video myself. Give me a week or two. I’m not a KZbinr. I work full time.

[@Cod597]

@@spadez7892 that would be sweet. No rush or anything! I just bought Part Two myself but I think it’ll be a long time before I get to the rat king

[@burkjurkpersonal5393]

I know what you are talking about, my personal interpretation was the rat-king had to of came from the side of the bus and move to where he was hiding to get us in the ambulance. I only remember what you were talking about because I was equally as confused

[@harsty6971]

Funny thing about the leak for part 2 is that I was so disconnected from the internet before the game came out that I didn't even know there was a leak before the game came out until today lol

[@thebeasleynetwork]

great video man, I love the last of us universe, and how it challenges me to think about different details and choices. I appreciate the effort on all sharing all this information. Personally i can understand why there was theory concerning why Ellie was Sarah reincarnated, I wouldn't completely discard it, its a new way of thinking of the overall story for people who actually believe in it. Belief in her reincarnation or not, no doubt Joel saw Ellie as another chance to be a dad and protect his little girl. I hope they have special news on this upcoming "The Last of Us Day"! Thanks again man. hope to see more of this.

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you so much! Your comment means a lot genuinely. I’ve already started work on my next iceberg and I can’t wait to get to work. It truly was one of my favorite videos I’ve ever produced, I hope to get to a point where I can do one a month if possible. - Kevin

[@thebeasleynetwork]

@@PSSourceVids of course brother, keep up the great work, we need more videos like this honestly. I'll see you on the next one ✊💯

[@ethandavies7608]

Just wanted to say that good job on the video- but shambler stage is an alternate 4th stage which only develops in infected in wet environments

[@PSSourceVids]

Thanks so much! And shoot I must have missed that in my research my apologies. I’ll save any corrections for a future iceberg about The Last of Us if we were to do it again with new facts! - Kevin

[@ethandavies7608]

@@PSSourceVids Sure! Like I said, you did a great job either way, super good video!

[@chattycatty3336]

Thats not a fact. Another youtuber made a theory on it, but its never been said in the game or by the developers (so no, his video was fine lol)

[@ethandavies7608]

@@chattycatty3336 well.. factually speaking they are less layered with armour than bloaters.. it doesn’t make sense for them to have less fungus in a 5th stage than in the 4th.

[@chattycatty3336]

@@ethandavies7608 lol well yeah, but you were stating it like a fact, it may have been a small overlook, but I dont feel it was necassary to correct lol, at least not in that way. More like "if I'm not wrong the shamblers..." Or "i think..." Instead, you say it like a correction (does that make sense? I'm not trying to be rude lol)

[@edwartcanvas2756]

30:49 for a moment I thought I open/join google meet by accident XD, the sound got me

[@warandpoetry9542]

I think “American Girls” is a mistaken reference to “American Daughters”, a poster that can be found in Uncharted 4 that seems to depict the world of TLOU

[@astrometries1944]

Is Lev one of my favorite The Last of Us 2 characters? Yes. Did I laugh like an insane person when that guy rocked him? Yes.

[@johnjeffrey741]

Started in July and ended in June. Great start, Doc Brown.

[@mxrocketbeats]

I thought you were gonna say "you give me a ration, I give you a rash" lmfao

[@PSSourceVids]

LMAOOO nope no rash here - Kevin

[@joeyclemenza7339]

For those complaining about Ashley Johnson not portraying Ellie on the show? She’s 40… end of discussion. Bella Ramsey does a superb job though.

[@mappingshaman5280]

Ellie can't be contagious. She bites abby and months later abby is not a stalker.

[@kirklazarus1426]

Just came across your channel and this is my first video from you i watched. Awesome video! I like to think i’m a big TLOU fan but there were somethings in this that i didn’t even know about! Subscribed.

[@PSSourceVids]

THANK YOU SO MUCH YOUR PROFILE PIC GOES HARD SHOUT OUT THICCCCC YOSHI

[@froggerdodger]

I thought the American girls were talking about the (American Girls) doll store in the left behind dlc where Ellie gets a key from one of the pharmacists that turn there.. Also, you can see a little girl hugging a giraffe stuffed animal in the beginning of TLOU1 when Tess and Joel pass through the civilian camp that hosted gambling dog/human fights. She sits in the corner where you can find a wanted poster of Marlene and if you walk up to her, she stops playing and just stares at you.. It's pretty creepy.

[@KylieTschida]

Bro the last thing we need in LOU is infected animals. I do DONT wanna fight infected squirrels or birds. That would be ASS

[@burkjurkpersonal5393]

I’m 99% sure the American Girl entry is referencing a moment from the dlc left behind where Ellie in the wintertime mall goes into a store where she needs to get a note off a corpse to get into the pharmacy, that store is filled with dolls that appear to be American Girl brand dolls.

[@dragonballradiant2744]

15:03 you take them on just before you meet Ellie for the first time. You also take them on after the Tess sacrifice. 32:06 to me it’s not hard to infer with everything we have. Tommy was disgusted with Hunter Joel, and left.

[@CinnaStix7]

Came back to this video after the show. I love that the show was able to answer some unknowns about this incredible story.

[@PSSourceVids]

Bro I knowwwwwww. Remake it with the shows context? - Kevin

[@robogreek3157]

The first part was an incredible story

[@durodesduvo8424]

49:16 I always wondered if infected were really sentient or if their screams are just a muscle being flexed… we do know that transitioning to a runner is extremely painful- there was a note from an infected person in the emergency room in Part 2 that described a gradually worsening pounding headache, pain in the eyes and extreme hunger. It’s pretty sad to think that runners are in agony like that for like a year, then when the mushroom completely takes over their brain and they’re a clicker the pain is finally gone?

[@ronaldmcnugs]

I think the reason Joel says too far when asked about his ex wife is simple, he has a history of pushing trauma away and refusing to acknowledge it

[@1onlyislandboy726]

“A hero would sacrifice you for the world, a villain would sacrifice the world for you”, I think this quote describe Joel completely, I love Joel but no one can say that he wasn’t a bad person. I don’t blame him though, I still got mad when he was blitzed by Abby’s group and Abby herself. I was mad at Abby for damn near 2 to 3 years now 😂, I haven’t played the game since it came out but I just came back to the game and I’m think I’m starting to enjoy the gameplay (not the story line cause I’m still kind of salty about Joel’s death), anyways great video my guy 🫡

[@PSSourceVids]

Love this man appreciate it! Expect more icebergs in the future. - Kevin

[@1onlyislandboy726]

@@PSSourceVids yo my name is Kevin also 😂😂

[@mappingshaman5280]

The women only zombies idea actually sounds really interesting to me. It'd be really cool to see how the men and uninfected women would interact and think etc. It'd also be cool to see the reverse. Contrary to "being misogynystic" you could have actually used that storyline to highlight misogyny.

[@iguanasandwich28]

Just play LISA: The Painful at this point lmao

[@TyzThePhoenix]

Clicks on the 4:05 time stamp Immediately gets called a sperg 😭😭😭

[@PSSourceVids]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO - Kevin

[@colee61200]

Awesome video, watched it throughout my day!

[@PSSourceVids]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed. More icebergs in 2023! - Kevin

[@XxRemotexX]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the lore in the university of the first game states that the monkeys were infected but were asymptomatic. They showed no signs when experimented on, but transferred the infection to one of the doctors when he was bit.

[@DinsRune]

The answer to the question of "was Joel right, in the end?" is the fact we've been debating back and forth for over 10 years now.

[@bjorn9486]

This was my first time seeing one of your videos and it was amazing! Looking forward to more from you!

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you! I really appreciate it it means a lot. - Kevin

[@thedragonian4849]

30:52 there is a teams meeting joining sound here and it literally gave me a heart attack lol

[@anubisvel]

Although the timelines of both The Last of Us and Uncharted make it impossible for them to take place within the same "universe," both are alternate reality versions of the real world so they do share a framework. Uncharted (the game) canonically exists in the world of TLOU as well, so it can get very meta very quickly. I'd classify items like the "Francis Drake" ring Nathan Drake wore as Easter Eggs rather than evidence of shared histories. Otherwise, the precursor orb from Jak and Daxter would suggest some sort of shared timeline with that game as well (which is far more unlikely). The Weston's prescription bottle showing up in Uncharted 4 is super interesting. Weston's is clearly an alternate version of Walgreen's, but it's fun to see the reference stay consistent across franchises for eagle-eyed fans who know the connection.

[@alexswan8323]

It’s interesting to see how some of these theories became reality in the tv show universe

[@creaase406]

I loved part II. People be trippin

[@PSSourceVids]

Speak on it. Literally a masterpiece. Thanks for your comment and supporting the video! - Kevin

[@creaase406]

@k o a l exactly! Every moment. I can play any part of that game. And just enjoy the hell out of it

[@akira-qr4qm]

it's because they're childish men who didn't get to kill the person who murdered their favorite characters

[@meeloks.1013]

There are valid reasons to not like TLOU2.

[@creaase406]

@@meeloks.1013 yea that’s true. There are valid reason to not like every game. As paying customers we are entitled to feel whatever we want. That’s the beauty of being American TBH. In communist countries you have to like certain things. That’s what this generation is like now. People start talkin shit to people for liking certain content. Its ludicrous

[@Xmasonfieldingx]

24:12 pretty sure it’s a reference to the doll store in left behind lol

[@samurai_panda]

55:25 I would love to see infected animals! I really though there is going to be some infected gorilla or something that we have to fight in TLOU2 because there were some concept art of infected wild life

[@HeWhoIsNamedPatrick]

Pt 3 will begin with Abby and Lev finding the fireflies who are in contact with a firefly cell from South America who has the oriiginal Patient 0 who is infected and contagious but not turned or growing fungus from their body. One of the doctors working their finds out that by combining both Ellie’s and patient 0’s dna a cure can be made but only if they are alive. This will take us to back to pt 1 where Joel saving Ellie from the surgery actually saved the worlds only hope for a cure.

[@PSSourceVids]

I should probably do a video about the different ways a TLOU 3 will go. I like your pitch though! - Kevin

[@slippinjimmy9787]

I've seen you put this on 3 videos now. You are very proud of it lmao, as you should

[@lightningmonky7674]

At this point I doubt it's gonna happen but I really hope naughty dawg gives us a tommy/Jessie DLC, It would literally make my year

[@Bell-gv2zv]

Ill be honest about the Factions game, It's a great Idea, but I love story. I would love a story "character creator" game where we can make our own faction, going out to hunt infected, maybe other groups, but I would love a story instead of another apex thing. Nonetheless, I love the last of us and its games

[@TheShifter1001]

I’d like to add I think Ellie was based off of Ellie from Dead Space 2 they both sport a red top, and they have this rebellious but adorable attitude

[@Infamouzsori]

Dope iceberg! Really detailed 👍🏽

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you! - Kevin

[@joeyclemenza7339]

Deanna and JJ are more than likely back at Jackson. Deanna wouldn’t risk taking her baby son out in the cold wilderness with the infected a constant threat. Ellie, however, more than likely doesn’t follow. Just as she left Joel’s guitar behind in a cathartic move of release, so does she leave everything else. She’s now on a course to redeem herself… which I like Abbie, has yet to do. But just as Abbie redeemed herself through Lev, Ellie will more than likely find a child out in the wild, and hopefully Shepard him or her back to safety… just as Joel did for her. She’s got to clear her soul before anything else.

[@PSSourceVids]

I actually love this arc for Ellie. My god that’s good stuff thank you for sharing and I hope you enjoyed the iceberg! - Kevin

[@FrankFreezy_]

This was such a fun video. Thanks for sharing.

[@PSSourceVids]

Appreciate you! - Kevin

[@xithael8709]

Man I was waiting for this videos existence since before last of us 2 and it just now showed up in my feed

[@Erborne1979]

YES ....DO A LEFT BEHIND FOR TOMMY....splice his 3 days in Seattle with flashbacks of him and Joel surving the outbreak

[@urbiznesnunuv6938]

Tbh I’ve headcanoned that last of us is the bad ending of uncharted 1 where you don’t grab onto the el dorado sarcophagus, Nate goes insane and becomes David from guilt and eldorado goes out of control

[@PSSourceVids]

That goes hard. Good stuff! - Kevin

[@urbiznesnunuv6938]

@@PSSourceVids just a reminder if that old lady in uncharted 4 didn’t drop dead the cordyceps happens

[@Freshlydeliveredegg]

This needs to be updated cause of the remake , the show and tlou2 remaster

[@sirbadger4290]

Amazing that Shawn James was nowhere to be found on the iceberg, ellie sings his song on the reveal trailer for tlou2 and he has a whole song about ellie

[@sznayk]

Fantastic iceberg delivered by a clearly informed and passionate fan. I have two more really awesome facts to add in hopes you find this comment! First, unused concept art of Joel's far more grewsome death. Not the one where Abby cuts his arm off but a far worse one where Ellie only finds his mutilated corpse wrapped up in duck-tape in his own house with an open window and crows ripping away at his body (yes there is concept art of this) by John Sweeney. This was drawn for an early script where Abby's group is welcomed into Jackson and build up trust there before murdering Joel. The crows throughout Seattle would cause BTSD in Ellie reminding us of that scene. And the second fact is concept art showing what looks to be Santa Barbara as a large open area map. Mirroring the first Seattle mission you as the player would use Abby's map found on the boat to navigate towards her us as you did in Seattle. This was scrapped as the game was already very long, wish we got more of that beautiful scenery though. Anyways excellent video, you've earned a new sub!

[@juanwick1570]

I liked the ending where she live because a lot of us don't got humanity in us we tend to do crazy things or see things right in our pov but we never usually hear out or understand what's going until it's to late

[@qh8079]

If you played The Last of Us you would know that you actually do see infected animals in the game, those monkeys in the lab are infected and were test subjects

[@JadaAngelique]

They need to make days gone 2, that game… the soundtrack, the storyline, the characters!! I was so into the storyline, great game

[@vyrraee]

This is underrated. I appreciate your effort for this video 🤭

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you so much! Really loved making it and already started work on the next iceberg video for the channel 🙏🏽 - Kevin

[@Zikamama8]

The last of us is my favorite game and great video keep going

[@Scozzy_23]

55:36 in the university part of the first game, the monkeys are infected, they have some shrooms growing out of them and the one scientist guy killed himself because the monkeys bit him

[@nol75]

Nathan drake caused CBI: el dorado is kind of just stuck at the bottom of the ocean somewhere so i mean it’s definitely possible that someone found it. And I know it’s far fetched, but like I was thinking that the bloaters are a mix of the guardians from uncharted 2 and CBI and that’s why you see so few of them.

[@ReallySilly_2]

can't wait for the new factions game coming up

[@PSSourceVids]

YESSIR. - Kevin

[@DaniWonderworld]

There are many things that could possibly go many ways Someone said that Ellie did indeed bite Abby, if Ellie can actually infect others with her bite, then Abby is also or could be immune in some way, that could make an interesting history, Ellie helping the antagonist discover she's immune? Interesting. Abby trying to find Ellie to tell her? More interesting. Also, imagine that something happens to Dina and JJ (or maybe just Dina) and gets saved by Abby and Liv, that would also be interesting, to see Ellie's or even Tommy's reaction Also they could do something with this to force Abby and Ellie to work together and eventually clear a tension they most likely still have They could actually make something super cool These could also be part of Tommy's DLC if we had one

[@jessiec668]

Earlier in TLOU2, after Dina discovers Ellie's immunity, Ellie tells Dina that she cannot make Dina infected nor immune. I have no idea how Ellie knows this (did she previously bite other people and wait around to see what would happen?) but I guess we need to take her word on it.

[@mappingshaman5280]

@@jessiec668 well Ellie and Riley kissed and Riley still turned so its reasonable to assume it can't be transmitted.

[@jimnorris3276]

1:04:00 what if the fireflies caused the outbreak. They knew someone would become immune and could make a cure and then leverage it to take over the world. Suddenly Joel is a saint and Ellie a walking wmd in the wrong hands.

[@nikkydalby7126]

I’ve seen others comment that even IF the Fireflies had been able to make a cure, would they even have the man power or supplies to create enough of it for everyone?! Others argue it would be better in FEDRA’s hands & that the Fireflies would use it as leverage to get what they want - not save humanity.

[@haleeparker7709]

There is a kid in the beginning of part one who has a giraffe stuffed animal, and she pulls away when Joel walks closer

[@xithael8709]

Man I was waiting for this videos existence since before last of us 2

[@HotCoffeeSmallTalk]

This was very much enjoyable

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you so much! - Kevin

[@SevKast_7]

This was your FIRST iceberg video?! You NAILED IT! Congrats, you should do more Iceberg stuff!

[@PSSourceVids]

I GOT MORE IN THE WORKS THANK YOU ♥️♥️♥️ - Kevin

[@JB2FROSTY]

"i worked really hard on this iceberg" ..... "Here's a link to the guy that made this iceberg" What?

[@NikPlyz]

The thing with Joel, he can’t take the thought of losing a child again, seeing her as a young girl, someone who could’ve been his daughter if she didn’t get killed on a table to die. I think he made the right choice aswell because that cure is too far late. The entire world is already 20-30 years into the apocalypse if they cured a area/city they could still die by being mauled to death or shot n killed but the bad people out there. It was time to just live as you could till you died.

[@qh8079]

You see skeletons and burnt piles of bodies plenty of times in TLOU, there is no way everyone is infected

[@chambeet]

Isn’t there an American Girls doll store in the mall in Left Behind?

[@91MoonKnight]

I understand Joel trying to save Ellie given he becomes a surrogate father figure any parent would do that for there child. I don't see Joel as the villain but I don't see him as the hero I just see him as someone who is rather in between since everyone in that universe is capable and has done horrible things

[@sabinsx]

everyone isn't infected -- there are plenty of examples of people that die in the game but do not "come back as zombies", there's even a point in TLOU1 in the Pittsburgh hotel where Ellie asks about some normal dead bodies in a tub. also it's established that the fungus needs a living host.

[@Mr.Frog21]

The American girls entry makes totally sense. Last of us was definitely inspired by that song and it was released during the same time Last of us was in the early stages of development.

[@jompy151]

13:40 Leaks ! Well said , the game and naughty dog didn't deserver this fall out . Great video 👍

[@PSSourceVids]

Completely agree. - Kevin

[@xenen9797]

this video is sooo underrated

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you for the support! It means a lot! - Kevin

[@roeeshalom6093]

this is one of the best videos i ever watched on youtube! you can see the insane work you put in to make this video, props

[@PSSourceVids]

Thank you so much means the world genuinely. More to come! - Kevin

[@rich925cal1]

bruh manny is also the same actor who played that Mexican like cartel boss in season 2 of Fear The Walking Dead.. forgot his name in that but I just recognized his eyes