WHO'S THE BEST COMMANDER FROM LOST CAVERNS OF IXALAN IN cEDH?

Lost Caverns of Ixalan is here and we're trying to see how good these commanders are in cEDH!
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[@taylorwheaton840]

Breeches in the 99 of Malcolm/Kediss I think will really be impactful. And I know you guys were on the fence for Kitesail Larcenist, but I think the fact that he's a pirate might push him over the edge in that deck alone just for added Malcolm synergy and further solidifying Breeches a slot in the deck. It's certainly worth experimenting with. Although, yes I wish he wasn't a 3 drop. I'd be fine sacrificing the Ward 1 for one less cmc or swapping it for flash.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Definitely good together !

[@crppledizzle9374]

it doed hit the ring tho

[@taylorwheaton840]

@@crppledizzle9374 Spitting facts! Seems to be a fairly important metric for cards lately. Does it interact with The One Ring? Lol

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

UB shows why it’s still the best color combo. Also Malcolm having 1 toughness makes it nigh-on unplayable

[@BK-kr6dh]

My guys, it's been a long time since we've spent time together, but stumbling across your videos these days, I'm so horrendously proud of how far you've all come. Keep plugging at the dream. Your old pal, Clay Puppington

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Thanks Clay!

[@Death_by_Tech]

17:46 as it turns out, having a card on top of your deck is quite nice after all

[@unManaMas]

Looove the video and the gameplay, but was really wishing for the Gnome jeskai commander Tetzin, Gnome Champion, that combos of with Chrome host Seedshark and 2 0 mana artifacts, LED and Lotus petal where you mill till you get thassa's oracle or Underworld breach and returned with Sevine's reclamation. Fun glass-cannon concept in jeskai lol. Looooved the game though!

[@Flip4Crypt]

That game was awesome, there was so much interaction Cam's start was so explosive, that was crazy Great video guys!

[@gypsieking3280]

Great game. Thanks as always for posting.

[@jessesandburg]

Been waiting for this video!!

[@chriswilliams2559]

This was prob one of my favorite videos from you guys. Solid showing out of the gate by Cameron. Why no francisco? I paired him with thrasios and it's been good so far. There's akiri and tana builds out there as well

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Thanks! No real reason other than we weren’t more interested in Fran than these other ones

[@chriswilliams2559]

@@PlaytoWinMTG understandable. There's some cool lines with ballista and agatha soul cauldron in the deck

[@therosbeyondgoat]

Thoughts on Tetzin? It's really good at setting up quick Breach wins, especially with Displacer Kitten or Chrome Host Seedshark, and being in Jeskai means you have the usual Intuition piles and such.

[@JacePT_]

Hi gamers Bit of an npc type comment but i just recently found ur channel and i love the energy n pacing n obvs passion u all have for edh. I think itd be so fun to play magic with you guys

[@jacobantopia4222]

Great video guys, quick question about Breeches. If you played a land on your main phase and then attacked with Breeches and you do the exile top of library trigger & it’s another land do you get to play that land still on your 2nd main phase or just play it that same turn?? Thanks in advance 🔥

[@nathanstruble8587]

Hey guys, thanks as always for the videos! Do y’all have any thoughts on Fransisco partner? I thought it was a fun casual card but I saw it has some pretty easy 3 card combos with Agatha’s cauldron and walking ballista. I feel like a 2 cmc partner with some colorless combos might have some low power cedh legs?

[@curt3628]

Best way to wake up on my birthday! Love the content

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

happy birthday!!

[@seangerrity9217]

It's cool in a vacuum. I'd like to see something more along the lines of how these decks fare against a gauntlet of established decks in the format.

[@SmeeGuitar]

love the show! Me and my playgroup wanna record aswell. Would you be so kind to answer some questions? :) I assume you have some overhead gopro. How do you add the cards? in post manually? or is it a programm?

[@ciaosonoAlbertoG]

I'd have loved to see a Pantzlanza (???) FC deck. She's cool and you get to play dinos for value i guess

[@Highwang]

This is just making me want to make a pirate pile with Malcom/Vial Smasher after seeing how wild Cam popped off at the start.

[@markoswester-rivera6170]

What a great game! Did yall consider the new Saheeli for any of these decks? I know there is a dmall community of Saheeli players who've been playing her and we think she could be pretty good

[@EldraziGaming]

This was such an intense game! Really cool to see how Dylan piloted Malcom and Nate had nothing but gas in his hand 😅

[@Inspectornills]

hey guys, love your gameplays. I have a question, what setup do you guys use to record games? What camera do you guys use and how do you hang it up to see the whole field? I used to record my games before the pandemic but I feel like I want to pick up recording games again and I want to know what it takes to take good videos.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

iPhones with a small desk phone stand!

[@mikgenta7635]

Breeches is awesome, reminds me of my overtunes liara portyr deck

[@jonathankowatch6947]

Well, the podcast a couple days ago was right. Malcolm sucks in an orcish bowmasters meta. If only it was a 1/2 instead of a 2/1.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

RIGHT?!

[@brendans1983]

Nate's Crypt rolls are horrendous! Pretty sure ive seen that dice appear on Tyler's screen a couple times, but the Bowmasters copped it hard at 12:40 🥳

[@MollymaukTealeaf-et3vg]

Any thoughts on cards abusing The Ancient One's high power? The Bolas one, the new Ixalan artifact that mills & draws for power, etc.?

[@Javaisd3ad]

@7:30 what is this riff from? It sounds really familiar 🤔

[@chrispollard5408]

What do you guys think of dauntless dismantler? Its my personal pick for cdh card of the set and kutzil is a deck im working on currently so love to see it.

[@NotAWhaleAtAll]

Aww, I thought Ojer would be the mono-red deck today Ian mentioned brewing it, any thoughs on cEDH burn?

[@Jugglerman]

Is there a playlist of all the songs used in the episodes? This one has a couple of banger soundtracks

[@neetfeetsstudionights5446]

How did you dash in ragavan with one mana from chrome mox? Jeweled lotus only casts commander.

[@RodrigoCML7]

“You’re gonna put that whole thing in aren’t you” Yes, and we are all grateful for it. Also I’m on team Larcenist at 3 mana is fine. That ward 1 does a good Thalia impression in some cases.

[@ValinShadow]

at 14:28 is Tyler talking about like the show the Magicians?

[@Jakerunio]

Just a note: bowmaster needs to choose its target when the trigger is put on the stack, Nate can’t draw off of faerie mastermind first to gain extra info. I’m sure it didn’t really matter and/or was just edited in a way that made it look like that’s what he was doing when he wasn’t, but it kind of bothered me. Also that breeches opening turn was insane, sad it slowed down. That’s how it feels every time I play ragavan in the command zone, too-explosive starts but hard to keep it rolling.

[@dickwangchuck]

Tadeas can't be blocked by bigger creatures. That orc army was two power so it was an illegal block

[@maximiliankemnitz1869]

I love Orcish Bowmasters the Gathering!

[@Kwekachu]

Entertaining as always. Just wondering how the other players are casting spells while Kutzil is on board.

[@samcoleman7357]

On turn 5, cam responds as Kutzil is on the stack

[@kevinoleeh2]

At 13:06 is the Breeches trigger for blocking on Thadeus not an illegal target? Thadeus has hexproof unless attacking or am I missing some piece on board that allows this?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

True

[@famousstranger8468]

I like breeches in isshin as a stand-alone card just swing, get in for 3 damage make a treasure and exile a card

[@tristownsproductions7472]

Breeches sadly seemed like it span it's wheels a lot without finding a pay off! If cam found magda it would be different! If you run it that is I haven't check the decklist.

[@TripsAhoy]

Nice game. Good ending. ❤❤❤

[@Cy_in]

i had to pause the video after Cam's turn one.... i........... ok. the amount of times my eyes kept widening.

[@taylormatic]

Very intesting decks

[@gdiridium5525]

noticed that Tadeas (Dhalsim)'s untap trigger kept getting missed. wonder if that would've changed the game much

[@bobthor9647]

Fun 🤠

[@Evo_Painting]

Great game, btw rest in peace block malcolm' discard-cast mechanic coz for this discarded card must still in graveyard

[@intention21]

18:42 cam, why didn’t you try to exile a card from facebreaker one by one to see if you get a pyroblast or something? Just my thoughts

[@mark1A100]

its hard to see cause the card show coveres it but cam has cursed totem locking creature abilities

[@intention21]

⁠you’re right lol I forgot

[@TCG9777]

I was expecting the bird

[@zSpec]

What's the wincon in malcolm the list has no Thassa or labman is it just malcolm damage and extra turns ? Why have enter the infinite and not lab or Thassa

[@ScuffedGaming]

Dayum JEEZ that bowmasters was a beating great game gents

[@bortle]

it took me until opposition agent at about 4:00 to realize this wasn't on webcam

[@noahmurtha4036]

Okay but Zoyowas justice looks like a really decent tuck spell

[@jakemaxwell3810]

"I don't know if I'm doing anything with this deck, but I'm having fun." - Classic prison deck lmao

[@dantelamonda8587]

Was cam able to cast notion thief or does cursed totem stop that?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Yes, it’s not an activated ability

[@Lykrast]

I think there were some missed untap triggers from Tadeas (since he has reach), though don't think that mattered much here.

[@andrewcalebmat]

And Hexproof while not attacking…

[@andrewcalebmat]

Read the explains the card… maybe cEDH players forgot how magic works… read the fucking card man!!!!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Yeah read the card!!!

[@barnsleyharriott9387]

Long shot ... but what dice do you guys use? Thanks 🙂

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

BIG ONES

[@barnsleyharriott9387]

@@PlaytoWinMTG Yeah, but how big? 👀

[@ODIRGO]

Around 10:30 cam was casting things during Tyler's turn. But I thought Tyler's commander prevent opponents from doing that. Am I not seeing something?

[@FedericoSavoldi]

It was on the stack.

[@hyeongjulee217]

the commander was on the stack

[@mitsosoftheelves]

This felt like a normal EDH game, heh

[@rubennns3891]

We demand The Mycotyrant!!

[@xEldrazi]

Wouldn’t you only make one treasure from face braker ?

[@danielkuttel7867]

@dylan @cam: How does it comes that you arent getting angry when you are losing in salty games?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Nothing to get angry about! The game is fun to us, that’s why we play. Losing is part of it.

[@Cybertech134]

I just want to see Ojer Taq.

[@whitneyweiss3067]

surprised to see no francisco / partner. malcolm / francisco, thras / fran, and ishai / fran are all pretty good and viable.

[@Cy_in]

"this age old question of which deck that came out 2 weeks ago is best?"

[@jeremiahvongswady2121]

Is wishclaw a sorcery speed?

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

nope. just on your turn

[@fnx.M]

So I don't mean this in a rude way, but in a helpful one: if you think someone on KZbin is making a mistake, maybe it's a good idea to re-read the card before commenting?

[@underlvled]

No Food Chain Pantlaza Kinda makes me sadge cause Im a really big fan of the deck

[@deadNdivine12]

Poor Nate getting ripped on for what he said haha. "I have a card on top".

[@intention21]

11:27 lmfao 🤣 This happened because you needed to play your commander and you truly wanted to believe you can play. Therefore it went unnoticed lol!!!!!

[@monomanamaniac]

Breeches looks so strong lol.

[@frozentyphoon2049]

Yes he put the whole thing in lol

[@windiesel2826]

No Francisco, Fowl Marauder???

[@rhettnorman8451]

i feel like this was just casual commander. but it was a great game

[@jakemaxwell3810]

Cedh under successful stax looks a lot like low power.

[@joshuahorton3947]

I completely understand why you guys do it this way, but I’d much rather see each of these commanders, individually, against a well defined meta. This style is fun to watch, but it doesn’t actually tell me which is the best commander from lost caverns. This matchup just shows me what happens when a few new commanders jam a game.

[@AlexanderIsakson]

Were saheeli

[@Spyzer_64]

Tyler having a survival and never tutoring with it hurt my soul

[@devilproducoes5990]

Who is the best Goblin Commander on cEDH?

[@horribleville]

Orcish bowmasters is just too good

[@PhoenixRNH]

alan now in lowercase

[@superseang9692]

Ask chat gpt to make you the most powerfully cedh deck and play it

[@kingcherubix7064]

Noooo! The dimir deck shouldve been some love for Francisco/Malcolm 🥲

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Dylan playing dies to bowmasters tribal.

[@aenubiis]

Poor malcolm :(

[@marco1405]

Guys i loved your contents. But why you don’t play anymore? Only answering question and no more cedh games.

[@braedenschindler6953]

Why is nobody talking about or testing the new saheeli? she is by far the most broken commander from the new set

[@suzukiryuumagaming1010]

My money is on Dylan (started watching the episode, no reading comments)

[@timtauber5557]

This was a Cedh game? Played like a regular edh game.

[@nelsikegaming]

Nate paid 1 mana instead of 4 for Mystic Remora

[@user-zq6pm8vd2b]

buh

[@bonaface]

why are people casting spells during Tyler's turn with Kutzil on the board? 10:40

[@ODIRGO]

I started looking for this comment right after I posted the same.

[@bonaface]

@@ODIRGO are we super smart or super dumb?

[@FedericoSavoldi]

It was on the stack.

[@bonaface]

no it wasn't. was already in play honey! Did you not pay attention for minutes? He attacks with it several times up until the time I mentioned.@@FedericoSavoldi

[@FedericoSavoldi]

@@bonaface You are the one who wasn't paying attention, it died in combat and was recast second main phase. Please don't call strangers "honey", it sounds very condescending.

[@dickwangchuck]

Dhalsim is hexproof unless attacking. Breeches couldn't target him

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Ya we just didn’t read that card at all apparently

[@DeWillpower]

kinda weird you keep ignoring kutzil ability

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

When did we do that?

[@DeWillpower]

@@PlaytoWinMTG okay ignore my comment, ignore my future comments, ignore my existance i'm sorry 😭 i checked back the video and what i said before is wrong

[@markcirillo5479]

First bby

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

NICE

[@hussefalfonsoabizaidherrer515]

LMAO why does Tyler hate magicians

[@jonlamoreaux2228]

this seemed to be quite the mismatch.

[@samueldistefano4129]

The tutor at the end was illegal it needs to be sorcery speed

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

nope. wishclaw just says on your turn

[@bend5963]

What? No one wanted to play Dino food chain???

[@Vagrantlol]

you're telling me Dimir is good?!

[@mychaelperez8921]

Great game, however, turn 7 Tyler cast of Rule of Law even if it was countered and didn’t see the field Rule of Law will still the turn of players cannot cast more than two spells. So the the “Null Rod and Force Negation” wouldn’t resolve but I understand long game CEDH mate. Here is the ruling on it in quotation, “Rule of Law looks at the entire turn to see if a player has cast a spell, even if Rule of Law wasn't on the battlefield when that spell was cast. Notably, you can't cast Rule of Law and then cast another spell during the same turn”.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

nope thats not correct. rule of law didn;t resolves. rule of law only applies, and all permanents, only apply their effect if they are in play.

[@lucasstack6432]

Rule of law never resolved. it was never in play....

[@mychaelperez8921]

@@PlaytoWinMTGApologies for the misunderstanding regarding the ruling. I misconstrued the aspect about “…wasn’t on the battlefield”, mistakenly assuming that even if cast and countered, its effect would persist for the entire turn, which was incorrect. It’s evident that there’s much more to learn and experience about the game. I apologize for the confusion.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

all good! magic is hard@@mychaelperez8921

[@barnsleyharriott9387]

Awesome game; apart from Dylan cheating 😂

[@andrewcalebmat]

Man… Read your cards!!!! Play magic correctly plz! Bowmaster only trigger after SECOND DRAW, Dhalsim have Hexproof while not attacking and he untap when he attack…

[@shawnpretzel6182]

Yeah im of the opinion bowmasters and the one ring should be banned. They are way too strong. If your gonna let cards like that be in the commander format why ban shit like prime time.

[@jakemaxwell3810]

The only times since the format has been public that cards were banned for power level were flash and hullbreacher and we have the CAG to thank for those. Most of the banlist is aimed at casual play and does not care about power level. Even with that said, I don't agree. Neither bowmasters or Ring are broken, despite being strong and very popular. Breach, dockside, ad naus, or consultation would all be better bans.